The Unexpected Polish-Swedish Union
Вставка
- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- Dive into the heart of medieval and early modern European history with our deep dive into the Kalmar Union's dissolution, the infamous Stockholm Bloodbath, and the rise of Sweden under Gustav Vasa's leadership. Discover the transformative impact of the first Swedish Bible, marking a pivotal moment in the Protestant Reformation and the standardization of the Swedish language. Explore the establishment of a hereditary monarchy, a game-changer in Swedish political history.
Venture into the complex political landscape of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, known for its elective monarchy system, which set the stage for Sigismund III Vasa's election. This historic event underlines the intertwined destinies of Sweden and Poland-Lithuania, highlighting the strategic alliances and military prowess that shaped the Baltic region's geopolitical dynamics.
Unpack the reasons behind Sigismund III Vasa's election as king of Poland, delving into the strategic marriages, military alliances, and shared hostilities towards Russia that influenced this decision. Witness the intricate dance of politics and religion that challenged Sigismund's reign, illustrating the delicate balance between Protestant Sweden and Catholic Poland-Lithuania.
Explore the unique union between Sweden and Poland-Lithuania through a captivating narrative that sheds light on the pre-modern concept of nation-states and the fluidity of national identities. This discussion extends to the broader reactions of European powers, including the Holy Roman Empire, Russia, France, England, and Denmark-Norway, providing a comprehensive overview of the international stance on this union.
The video also covers the tumultuous events leading to Sigismund III's deposition in Sweden, triggered by religious conflicts and power struggles, setting the stage for the enduring conflict between Poland and Sweden. Delve into the Deluge (Potop Szwedzki), the Cossack uprisings, and the military genius of Charles X Gustav, whose reign was marked by bold strategies and military feats, including the legendary March Across the Belts.
Socials:
Discord: / discord
TikTok: / polishdaneyt
Instagram: / polishdaneyt
Reddit: / polishdane
Facebook: / polishdane
UA-cam: / @polishdane
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:12 - Sweden context
3:46 - Poland context
6:22 - Formation of the union
10:10 - Reactions to the union
12:51 - Dissolution of the union
15:50 - Swedish deluge
Sources:
• The Unexpected Polish-...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%...
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potop_s...
• Polish-Swedish Union
• History of Poland: The...
• The History of Europe:... - Розваги
![Livgardet - 500 Years in Service of the King - Sabaton History 102 [Official]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/w02pj5xpgAA/mqdefault.jpg)
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:12 - Sweden context
3:46 - Poland context
6:22 - Formation of the union
10:10 - Reactions to the union
12:51 - Dissolution of the union
15:50 - Swedish deluge
More history videos:
ua-cam.com/play/PLO1IdVdOw1GUbv--BJ9gi3g-GVGZTz3dD.html
nope@Cat_Guyy
Yeh. Swed not Germans, were what objectively ended Commonwealth during Deluge.
Sweden didn't organize the Stockholm bloodbath, the danish king did and the swedes revolted because of it.
ur right. my mistake, sry.
His name is "Polish dane" what did u expect? 😜
Yep! As it was pointed out in school: It is not without reason the Swedes call him Christian Tyran! We just call him Christian the second....
I live in the town where he was born. Not realy something to be proud of🙄
@@PolishDane That's alright, atleast you're able to admit it and inform people about it, which is more then can be said for most people nowadays.. sadly.
If only those 2 countries had proper leaders, this union would be OVERPOWERED
What's the pont of power for the sake of power? They had nothing in common, it's a bad match
Would you not smash the hottest woman on earth if she offered even though you have nothing in common? That's basically Sweden's reaction when they realized Sigismund was also the elected heir of the Polish throne. It wasn't even THAT bad anyways, the union lasted 7 years.
@@hevnervalsThe point is not dying???? They Both had enemies with Russia and Germany too.
Then you realise the leader beat Russia in 1618 when PLC was at its peak
@@hubisow4838there were actually talks of Russian joining the commonwealth but it didn’t happen and then the wars happened where Poland occupied Moscow
Now I want an alternate history of this
Same I’m gonna suggest this to some alt history UA-camrs
As a Pole living in Sweden, i see this as an absolute win
And Me who thinks Both Language are Fu__ing hard to learn and Pronounce sees it pain²
I was slightly unsure if to give this video a like or not. On one hand you are spreading some basic knowledge about this underappreciated part of history and it's clear that there was passion and effort put into making this video, on the other hand there are some omissions, oversimplifications and mistakes. Like: not mentioning that the mother of Sigismund III was a Polish princess (which was a major factor in his election) or implying that St Petersburg already existed (it was founded in 1703, on a freshly conquered territory), etc.
If you want to get deeper into this topic I recommend videos made about it by the channel SandRhoman History and (even more) the book "The Northern Wars: War, State and Society in Northeastern Europe, 1558-1721" by Robert I. Frost.
Frost is also the author of the Oxford History of Poland-Lithuania, which currently has only the volume 1, ending in 1569 with the very formation of the Commonwealth (the Union of Lublin). Hopefully he'll finish the second volume soon (he's been writing it for nearly a decade now).
You can also find some lectures and other videos with Frost here on UA-cam.
Thx for the comment. You can always go deeper ; )
@@PolishDaneayooooooo
😩😩😩@@AssyrianNationalist6
I like your historical knowledge and I see ya in comments on some historical video's a lot but are you Polish or just really like Polish history?
@hubisow4838 Thanks! I'm Polish, living in Poland, and I really like Polish history. I also think that the history of this entire Central-Eastern/Eastern region of Europe is fascinating, important, and overlooked in the wider world. That's why I really appreciate such Western historians as aforementioned Frost, Richard Butterwick, or Timothy Snyder.
It wasn't the Swedes that staged the bloodbath in 1520. The Danes held a banquet in Stockholm and invited noblemen and civilians, after which they incarcerated them and executed them on Stortorget the following day. Gustav Vasa's father was executed during the bloodbath.
Lithuania:bro why does everyone forget Abt me
You simply haven't behave bad enough. Don't envy being remembered for a king like Christian II 🙄
Actually, most of our history is pretty ugly. We learn about it, so we won't repeat it.
Peace and love from Denmark 🥰
@@ane-louisestampe7939 no peace to you
Surprisingly well talked out.
Was waiting for this xD, i know it was 2 days ago but wooo its here! ❤️
Thanks! This is more in death then what we learned in history class as a swede. They just briefly said something about a union and that was it. The focus was mostly on wars with russia. Nevertheless I love Poland, with both beautiful nature and city’s as well as kind people! 🇸🇪❤️🇵🇱
it wasn't true, it was even worse what you said about stealing everything that wasn't nailed to the ground, but the fact is that they stole nails, took them out of the structure, and burned everything they couldn't steal.
The primary reason why Zygmunt the III was considered for a candidacy and later elected was his mother pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katarzyna_Jagiellonka, szlachta - or noble class saw a member of Jagiellonian dynasty in him.
Not quite united, but they created personal union indeed. Unfortunely the Swedes overthrew the king, despite he was Swedish, not Polish -_- Such a pity, because the Swedes had good infantry (after Gustavus Adolphus' reforms even excelent) and Poles had, as you arguably know, excelent cavalry. The P-L Commonwealth always lacked infantry and it was a big problem. Polish cavalry combined with Swedish infantry would be unstopable force that would defeat Russia and change the history of the world.
He was a jesuit and that's why protestant sweds overhrew him out of fear of repressions.
The matter of nationality was of little consern. Sigismund was catholic and the reformation had already been entrenched in Sweden. On top of that, swedish nobility didn't want a "Kalmar union 2.0"
Funny how Sweden and Norway throughout their history just keep switching between unions lol
Two unions each, that's below average in Europe.
@@hevnervals the Frequency is what mean like literally only a couple years after separation they’d go on to unite with someone else
@@stargazer-elite Not uncommon. There's usually leadership turmoil during a dissolution. As for Norway, it was forced into union with Sweden as a gift from the UK.
@@hevnervals sweden had 3
I never learnd about this in school ( im swdish )
If it wasn't for Jesuit polish king, this would be pretty nice. Thanks to vasa dynasty and their claims to swedish crown, sweds made a deluge more devastating than WW2 for Poland
Thanks now I’m going to have nightmares about Countryballs with realistic teeth
6:00 That sounds a bit ironic considering what happened roughly a century later.
Now imagine if Polish-Lithuanian-Muscovite Commonwealth happened
I never thought a random CK3 game I played would be real
What happened in Poland in 1627-8? What kind of deep invasion that was?
but we are still united with max burgers
Potop będzie tkwić w podświadomości przez jeszcze wiele pokoleń
No nie wiem to juz historia, i zwykła wojna jak wiele innych.
@@kod353 Potop Sienkiewicza naznacza człowieka
@@user-fk1kn1py9nPrzypominam to jest daleka przeszłość i czasy się zmieniają. Trzeba iść do przodu i oczywiście uczyć się z historii.
@@kod353 ale niech Szwecja odda skradzione dzieła sztuki jak np. oryginały Kopernika z Torunia i wiele innych
First of all - respect for the knowledge of quirky bit of history :)
Second of all - both Poland and Sweden are now allies in NATO, there are grim times coming, Sweden has $$$ and tech, Poland has people and is VERY good (big scale wise i mean) with returns on invested $$$ and tech... Let's just see next few years how this goes :]
PS. For a world of memes, just imagine combined arms of hussars and Vikings :P
The main reason Sigismund became king of Poland-Lithuania was that his mother was the last member of the Jagelonican royal family (who had ruled the commonwealth for 200 years) to produce a son. His aunt the dowager queen Anna Jagellonia secured his election. Sigismund's grandfather had sought marry his daughters to the Vasas to check Russia. the erractic Erik prevaricated and eventually his brother Johan wen't to Poland and married Catherine. Again, since Catherine's brother was the last Jagellonican king, Catherine was a great price, Ivan the terrible also sought to marry her to advance his design on commonwealth lands And he and Johan ruling Finland ended up in a highly abusive correspondance eventually leading to war. Erik the king, got highly suspicious of his brother's powerful alliances and independent rule and invaded his fiefs and captured Johan in 1563. Catherine refused to leave his side and Sigismund was born three years into their captivity. Erik meanwhile fought a hard war with Denmark becoming less and less popular increasing his erratic rule, ending with his marriage to commoner, something that the nobility found intolerable and they rebelled putting Johan and Catherine on the throne. Sigismund was raised catholic but spent his childhood as a swedish prince regarding the Swedish crown as his his birthright.
What could have been.
Polish Swedish Lithuanian commonwealth.
Indeed.
Polish Swedish Finish Lithuanian commonwealth
@@PolishDane Polish Swedish Finish Lithuanian Latvian Belarusian Ukranian Estonian Commonwealth
@@Mr.MR2111 Rzeczpospolita Ośmiorga Narodów
@@randomviever I have no idea on what language are you trying to communicate with me here
And we'd name ir Peeden!
347likes. Almost there...
I wish you had the Polish flag the right way around
Un fact: Zygmunt III Waza after war with Russia could give throne of Russia to his son, Władysław IV Waza but he didn't do that because his son Would change religion from Christianity to Orthodoxy.
Zygmunt III Waza (Sigismund III Vasa) and Władysław IV Waza.
@@Artur_M. Yeah, your right 😅, my bad.
You mean from Catholicism?
*Władysław, while in age 15, was elected Tsar by Muscovy's boyars, who overthrew Tsar Vasily Shuysky after won wars in Smolensk and Kluszyno by Polish army. But his father - Zygmunt did not accept boyars conditions. He didn't like the idea of Władysław changing religions from Catolic to Orthodox.
Władysław also could become king of Sweden, but he needed to go to Sweden and change religion to Protestantism, which he didn't want to do - and also king of Czechia and Silesia, but same here - he needed to change religion to Protestantism, which was stated by his father as a big NO
Russian Empire wasn't proclaimed until Peter the Great
Bro it never was a union but it would be powerful
If the roman empire is in the baltic sea
The Kalmar union was a personal union much like Sigismund's rule of Sweden and commonwealth not an "empire". It was never one nation, or Sweden being ruled by Denmark. They were different nations with different laws and government just sharing the same monarch. Moreover Swedish kings were on several occasions crowned during the "Kalmar union" Karl Bonde even three times. The lesser Swedish nobility preferred a distant Danish king as check on the high nobility so they wouldn't be bossed around.
I’m sorry..🤣Did I just see soldiers of the Carolean army carrying flintlock muskets, with the date of 1587?? Ok..correct date my guy..but might wanna get those arms and uniforms sorted out. They may have had muskets..but the arquebus kind.
there is is a mistake Sweden had pomerina until like 1814 so bandenburg never had it prussia got it during napolionic wars
I have only one question why does Poland have an Indonesian flag ? 🥲🤔
its a meme to draw poland wrong
Poor Latgale... it was really bad period for Latvians, especially for Latgalians.
Too many errors i.e. Sigismund never installed a ‘privy council’, the council of the kingdom existed since the 13th century.
🇸🇪+🇵🇱=💪
4:14 spoiler, that's why it failed
4:21 The Szlachta was also like 20-30% of the population due to it being basically impossible to lose noble status, which also lead to corruption because magnates. Super rich nobles would pay off the nobles-in-name only to vote like they demanded. The PLC democracied so hard the King didn't even have authority to mount a defense against foreign invassion without nobility agreeing to it.
4:33 another reason it failed. A large portion of the PLC population had 0 desire to fight for the nation.
You are praising all the things that lead to the nation collapsing and beign enslaved for over a century XD
No one expects the Polish-Swedish Union 🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦
No one wants it.
@@ronaldostrowski4014Why are you so negative?
@@henrygooglekonto-lm4rn I meant that Poland and Sweden should remain separate states because they are as different as chalk and cheese and have their own destinies to fulfil. Close trade, friendship and military alliances are sufficient.
Also, historically the Polish and Lithuanian Commonwealth nobility were not interested in Sigismund Vasa's union with Sweden. When Sigismund sent troops to invade Sweden in 1597, not mentioned in the above video, he had to pay for the Polish, and the German and Hungarian mercenaries, out of his own pocket because the nobles were not interested. These troops, joined by Swedes loyal to Sigismund, had the Swedish Protestant forces cornered. Amazingly, Sigismund told them to pull back and let them go because he did not want to kill his subjects and the rest is history as Adolfus took the helm. Electing this half-Swedish and Polish prince as Poland's king and Grand Duke of Lithuania was a massive mistake. It matches that of a Polish Duke who invited the Teutonic Knights into Baltic Prussia. And, don't get me started on how he stuffed up incorporating into the Commonwealth the Duchy of Muscovy after taking it in 1610.
@@ronaldostrowski4014 Thanks, i didnt know that. But it look big on map 🤑
Arguing over religion is the biggest idiocracy
I like Poland. It triggers me that you Poles do not make the distinction between Poland and the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth, and call the last "Poland". Once I said that to a Pole "Well the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth is not Poland" he laughed me in the face xdd
But I don't know it's like saying the Uk or the british empire is England, that just does not make sense.
Poland-Lithuania was mostly controlled by Poland and it was split into two parts: Poland, "the crown" and Lithuania, the grand Duchy. The grand Duchy of Lithuania UNITED with Poland, so it's completely reasonable to call it Poland. Even people from those times said they lived in Poland, Lithuania, Ruthenia, the Crown, etc., not in the Polish-Lithuanjan commonwealth. The official name was there, yeah, people accepted it, but like it was all Poland
For me as a Pole the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth was Lithuanian and Polish.
But in my language its called "Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów" wich means Republic of the two nations so it is not
exactly marked that it is Lithuania and Poland so some Poles might think that it was more Polish than Lithuanian.
Wich is extremly dumb dont get me wrong im not defending them but i just wanted to seek answer why is that.
(oh, and sorry for my english, im still learning)
This is the result of classic, 19th and 20th century historiography. It's much Lithuanians' and Belarusians' fault. Lithuanians and Belarusians didn't claim the P-L Commonwealth heritage, so Poles took all of it. Lithuanians considered the Union of Lublin the greatest disaster in their history. Disowned king Władysław Jagiełło and cherished grand duke Witold. Belarusians instead chose to name their country Belarus instead of some Upper Lithuania of something.
This is slowly changing in Poland. More and more people realize that the P-L Commonwealth =/= Poland.
@@nikin643 Twój angielski jest bardzo dobrzy, chciałbym że mój polski był jak on
@@randomviever Yes it was controlled mostly by Poland but that does not make it "Poland". UK is controlled by England, that does not make scotland england, nor did it make the US England. Ukraine was controlled by russia for most of it's history.. does that make ukraine russian?
@polishdane you got the Stockholm blood bath wrong! Do your your research bro before educating the public. As I have learnt about it here in Sweden it was no rebellion but rather the Danes gathering all the leading Swedish nobles for a feast turned into a massacre. The Swedes had prior to this complained at all the Danes and Germans being placed in administrative positions rather than native Swedes. Gustav Wasas father, great grandfather of Szigismund, was killed there and and his son was motivated to start the rebellion, before then basically unplanned. Interestingly, the war was won by Sweden because Lubeck rented out some warships. Also the weakened state of the noble class after this helped bring in the Swedish "imperial" era because it made centralising the country easier whilst the nobles were eager to do state and military service to bring in much needed cash and prestige.
There was no mention of the Battle of Kircholm (1605) where the Polish and Lithuanian Commonwealth took Livonia (Estonia) from the Swedes. Electing Sigismund Vasa as king of Poland was another big mistake.
Polska najlepszy kraj na świecie, a Szwedzi nam zrobili potop >:C
Francja jest najlepszym krajem, Polska jest tylko drugiem
@@chantssovietiquesetrussest2335 no chyba nie panie kolego
My im zrobiliśmy potop najpierw, za Zygmunta Wazy, nawet zajęliśmy Sztokholm, niestety (też) przegraliśmy.
@@randomviever :) Ja znam prawdę, Francja gurom!
Jebani
I smell mapchart being used. also My opinion on sweden is their gay.
Poland-Lithuania-Sweden not just poland and sweden stop overlooking Lithuana in history