@@bunsmasterbunny yeah ik but im sure chaosx wants to eventually use all of them and make more lines with sentence mixing like he did with the Narrator giving controller tutorials. when they add boss fights and character fights and Town Missions and the hub worlds and the last story and final boss and the Multiplayer exclusive modes then thats when all lines will have an opportunity to be used.
It’s actually a misnomer, the whole 06 being a reboot thing. It’s a misunderstanding that become popular accepted fact, born from an interview Yuji Naka gave to video game outlet at the time (I think it was IGN please feel free to fact check me on that) where he compared this game to two movies at the time, Spider-Man 3 and The Dark Knight. Now The Dark Knight was a reboot for the Batman movies at the time, but Spider-Man 3 is obviously a sequel and not a reboot. What he was trying to get across, and what was lost in translation over the years in one long game of telephone, was that 06 was supposed to be the biggest and best Sonic game that they’ve worked on, and that they had (planned) released up to that point. It was never supposed to be a reboot, just a really big large scale game that was intended to be so much more, but Christmas couldn’t wait, and neither could SEGA management. Looking at their fiscal year I suppose I can see why they couldn’t, same applies to the massive money sink the game already was, and how it was essentially two games mashed into one. The unreleased cancelled game about a psychic character with physics based gameplay revolving around the new Havok engine. And the Sonic game planned for that year. They didn’t want to throw away all the work and money they had put into the other game, so that’s why Silver exists at all. ‘06 is a fascinating rabbit hole, and I haven’t even scratched the surface. Don’t get me started on the behind the scenes mismanagement, or the internal politics which threatened the game’s production. Either way, I’ve been anticipating this remake since you mentioned you were doing them, especially given you recently showed off the thumbnail for the video. I could tell it wasn’t long until we got it. This was always going to be a tall task, but I think you’ve done pretty well, and it’s definitely an improvement on the original video. Which while still good, lacks a lot of the small things your newer videos don’t.
I think part of the confusion around Sonic 06 being a reboot or not stems from the fact that the language at the time was a bit more limited than it is now; imo 06 could almost perfectly be defined as a “soft reboot,” a piece of media in a pre-existing franchise that still follows the pre-existing continuity, but generally tries to distance itself a bit from it to be more accessible to newcomers, but that term didn’t really start becoming popular until the mid-2010s when the Star Wars sequel trilogy started with The Force Awakens. If Sonic ‘06 came out 10 years later, I’m almost certain that’s how Sonic Team would’ve described what they were going for. P.S. This is going to be a big ol’ nitpick, but the movies Yuji Naka was comparing Sonic 06 to in that interview were Batman Begins and Spider-Man 2, not their sequels The Dark Knight and Spider-Man 3, which wouldn’t come out until 2 years or so after Sonic 06. Other than that detail, great job recapping the whole situation 👍
@@ReitheOffbeatOtaku It's not even that really, Sonic games have always been fairly self contained outside of 3 & Knuckles. 06 is just another new adventure like CD or Heroes beforehand.
The timeline where that exists would have a Sega that is completely different as a whole. Their whole history is rife with short-sighted decisions brought on by their "devil may care" attitude. Even now, they still give the least amount of care possible towards their legacy content and plaster Sonic's face on anything with a pulse.
At 1:21:04 it seems to be an unfinished render of Elise's character model. The reason why I believe it's unfinished is mainly because the character model itself is pre-rendered in it's default A-Pose. Possibly, no rig is there for posing, considering that the hair texture is unfinished or being unused in this render.
The "realistic" models are also for the pre-rendered cutscenes by Blur studio, that's why they are of such high quality. They're not supposed to be found in the game since they were only made for the cinematics
Probably my favorite unused stuff in this game are the Rainbow Gem, Super Hard mode, Metal Sonic being playable (likely by collecting all of the medals), and music tracks from previous games being buyable in the shop. Also, two unused ideas that did get used in the Very Hard DLC were Sonic playing through the Ruins area of Tropical Jungle and Silver having to fight Eggman robots in Crisis City.
Another banger. Recording hints for all characters even if you didn't know they were gonna be used was a normal thing around this time. The un used events however are clearly a sign of rush development. The localisation not being done so close to release is also kinda normal but what's concerning is how much wasn't finished.
Random thing I wanna add, the early Crisis City theme was likely changed because it was made with Silver's level in mind, then was later edited to fit more with the other two stories. Early has this more grim feeling, while final is more "adrenaline-pumping".
I’m a sucker for Mach speed sections, so it sucks we didn’t get a blaze section. But then again we could’ve been running into a wall for the 100th time
@@degeneratemale5386 funnily enough it was planned to move mid air in these sections lmao they even considered the homing attack there’s an unused code for it
I have a fondness for '06 and I love learning about it's cut content and prototypes! In discussions around this topic many people just circulate the same few pieces of information, but I actually learned a lot from this video!! Great work!!
There’s a reason these kind of videos are online and people like us watch them. People want complete projects, genuine art. I’ll never understand the thinking behind studios rushing their developers just to release garbage
I can see why they removed the wind safety net. For a demo that will be new for every, yay good way to help the player. But as a level tours the end of the game, the player “should” be confident in the movement to not need it. “Should”.
Sonic 06 was never a reboot. That is a fan myth. It directly continues the story of SA2 and Shadow the Hedgehog (Shadow mentions the UN President in White Acropolis and his storyline continues his development from that game.) No official sources from Sega or Sonic Team have ever claimed 06 as a reboot. The only source to that is a Giant Bomb Article which isn’t from Sega or Sonic Team and is therefore just fan speculation over the games’ title. 11:56 The painter is in the final game, he just lacks his hat. 13:51 The present gets used (without the dialogue) in Shadow’s Save Sabrina (Lord Regis’ daughter) mission.
I believe sonic team only said the game was meant to “bring Sonic back to its roots.” Which doesn’t necessarily mean a reboot. You are correct, story wise nothing is rebooted. All of the characters already know each other.
40:03 I could be very wrong, but Sonic's voice clip here - Sonic: "It looks like Dr. Eggman is after the Chaos Emeralds again. Shadow, we're in this one together." - "Again." "Again." The last time Dr. Eggman was searching for the Chaos Emeralds was in Sonic Adventure 2, working with Shadow. ( I could be wrong about that, too. Maybe Dr. Eggman was searching for them in Shadow the Hedgehog ( 2005 ). ) In Sonic Heroes, Dr. Eggman couldn't search for them because 1.) Dr. Eggman was locked up by a rouge and rebellious Metal Sonic. ( Neo Metal Sonic ) 2.) Literally, the Chaos Emeralds we're flying and racing to the Goal Ring in the Special Stages. In Shadow the Hedgehog ( 2005 ), The Black Arms came to Earth, and Black Doom wanted Shadow to collect the Chaos Emeralds so Black Doom can have them for himself. And in Sonic Rush, The Chaos Emeralds pulled off a more stylish and groovy Sonic the Hedgehog 2. Also, "Shadow, we're in this one together." I like this one. In both Sonic Adventure 2 and Shadow the Hedgehog ( 2005 ), Shadow searched for, and used the Chaos Emeralds either for himself or collected them for someone else. In 06, Shadow is peak, he's savin' the world. 😎 I'm crazy. lol.
If I see someone creating a Sonic 06 Iceberg in the future, I'll definitely send this video their way. Also I'm part of the First 100 Viewers Gang now let's go!
I think some of knuckles stage clear voice clips are used there's a glitch in the game where you can beat flame core as him in Sonic's story to hear it
I swear to god, i was playing 06 on my ps3 yesterday and I heard this voice line "When in doubt consult your map and radar. they should tell you where to go next" i am not joking i swear
(I haven't finished the video yet but) if I remember correctly, you can actually get the 3P and 4P icons to display in normal gameplay by assigning the second player to ports other than 2.
this video was so good and enjoyable man, great stuff. I also never knew about Veronica Taylor being the voice of Elise at one point, pretty cool though since she was originally with 4kids doing Ash's voice and Sonic 06 using the 4kids voice cast so she kinda fit right in and was acquainted with her co workers like Jason, Lisa, Mike, etc. because they were all on Pokemon before
the animation seen when interacting with the wind object is actually used in the final game the game plays it at a faster speed when you die from touching a kill plane (falling into a pit, water, etc.)
Why does everyone keep saying Sonic '06 tried to reboot the series. It's seems so clearly not true and the statement just seems ludicrous on it's face. No part of '06 tries to contradict or rewrite previous events, unless you count Blaze's origin, which seems more like a mistake to me. Is that the reason people keep saying this?
It is a soft reboot Sonic Team never stated it was a full on reboot the misconception comes from an SOA spokeman iirc implying its a “reboot” at an e3 convention Also maekawa considers 06 to be a prequel to rush but due to being a rushed game and its story still at phase 1 completion he said its up to players interpretation Plus 06 was supposed have an introduction story like sonic was having a vacation at soleanna like Adv1
Plus Sonic Team basically said This game was supposed to bomb like Sonic 1 did hence The Sonic Next evolution slogan and Enter the Sonic age shit Just A bunch of middlemen lost in translation and shitty gaming journalists picking it up
@@ordovicianscourge9520 Not familiar with "Ultraman the Next," but SA2 and Shadow are definitely edgier than their prior games, but no one considers them a "self contained continuity." It's not like Sonic Boom or Sonic X.
19:00 Isn't that model used in Shadow's story? There's a moment where he has to light up a fountain to recreate the Scepter, in preparation for his rematch with Mephiles. Picking up the Scepter is what triggers that infamous outtake from the GUN Agent!
Spark the electric jester 2 and 3 share some 06 inspired ed elements, such as the difference in level completion objects, the jump roll and unrolling as well as the no delay jester dash.
At 46:04, there probably would have been a point where Sonic would have had to save a bunch of townspeople. Maybe there could have been a mission in hub area, or the first train in Radical Train could have had people on it.
luckily we have chaosx but dude imagine if they remade this game and were given a right amount of time to add EVERY SINGLE THING they intended to do for 06...
39:02 I've ALWAYS wondered where that one drum sample came from, i remember hearing it a lot in Ben 10, especially in "Ben 10: Protector of Earth" but i wasn't able to find where it originated from.
It looks like Sonic '06 was going to have co-op but due to time constraints it got cut down and the Amigos was a compromise. Does explain why in some stages and the hub world the other characters just follow you and not do anything
Thanks for this! Since the gems are fully functional in the Xbox Live demo, do they drain the action gauge as intended? I also wonder if the platinum hits version is based on this demo.
Fantastic video. I played this game as a kid at the time it came out, and had a lot of fun with it, so I hold it with special regard for that, but now as an adult, I can see objectively why the game is terrible, which is fine. Getting to learn more about it's history is something I'll always be interested in. And this makes me sad, man. So much potential wasted, all because it just HAD to be released for the 15th anniversary. Seriously, fuck that shit. They should have waited another year. Luckly, we have Project 06 proving that this game could have been amazing.
I’m playing sonic 06 for the first time I’m 50 percent done with Sonic’s campaign and I’ve barely run into any glitches the most annoying thing is just the camera but other than that it’s been a fun play through I’m playing on 360 so idk if that helps or not
46:00 Perhaps the concept initially was Eggman hijacking a commercial train and strapping a bomb to it (instead of just Elise being in it). And at the end in Mach Speed when you’re chasing Eggman’s train, they’re screaming for your help to save them. I’d bet money on this Theory. And that’s why the Soleanna guards keep talking about a “situation” on the trains now not allowing anymore civilians. And why you have to take the sewer grate to sneak in. ( If it was Elise it would be full scale red alert). Not just a “don’t worry folks, nothing to see here!” Vibe with the guards
i wonder what the writers had planned for the original story of this game to be, it seems more intereting than any sonic game story, too bad we might never know
SCU at release did lag less if you removed all unused files. Older games are weird in the sense that even if a lot of files are unused, if you remove them some stuff will stop working
It would not, no, not because of dependencies, but because the whole reason the game lags and slows down is two fold: a) the normal level renderer is kind of weird and not optimized well, and this can be mitigated by using patches to turn of TSAA b) the loading times themselves is because of how loading the levels themselves work. It's usually because the object layouts are often SO big and 06 loads the ENTIRE stage at once, NOT as chunks. The stage itself does NOT cull out or have LOD applied, so the same model is loaded the entire time, even for inaccessible areas. It's partially why the draw distance is so low sometimes as well, keep the amount of objects loaded to reduce lag and load times.
You should reupload the old versions of the bonus video, all you gotta do is put in the title [OUTDATED], I just don’t wants those old videos to become lost media.
they need to remaster and reimagine 06 in 2026 for the 20 year anniversary, i genuinely think with all the potential it had there's a chance it could've been the best sonic game of all time
40:40 As an avid ‘06 enjoyer for its story like the adventure games (Sonic shenanigans but taken completely seriously with real world stakes. Kinda like dragon ball vibes) I am literally gripping my head in shock with my jaw dropped truly how much is missing. I know I’m partially bias. But think about it. This video is almost 2 hours. I promise you if I enjoy so much of what we actually got, imagine if this 2 hours of cut content was in the game? This would be the best Sonic game of all time, and I really hope they try something like this (Adventure style) again in the future given his newfound extreme popularity due to the movies. With that popularity, give Dev’s the proper budget and time to pull this off Please Sega ❤❤
This video is peak SonicTube archival abilities on display. You have outdone yourself with this one, slowly but surely approaching the level of low budget documentary. All the things shown are eloquently explained, wasting no time on miniscule details and over explaining stuff, while also avoiding the near tradition of mentioning how shit this game was, just cause. Congratulations, I will be looking forward to the Unleashed video, as this is my favorite Sonic game. Godspeed!
Those screams are probably meant for radical train, cause in Sonic version of the stage, he is trying to save civilians who are trapped in the train in a collision course to explosive crates
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Silver's bracelets opening up when he uses his powers makes so much sense
I love lore tidbits like this.
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😮 8:06 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
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"Over an hour of cut voice lines" Actually wild
Yea, how much is even in the game? Thats like 1/3 of all of them or something like that
Luckily they are all back in Project 06
@@Kiezly the best sonic game
@@KiezlyMost are not all.
@@bunsmasterbunny yeah ik but im sure chaosx wants to eventually use all of them and make more lines with sentence mixing like he did with the Narrator giving controller tutorials. when they add boss fights and character fights and Town Missions and the hub worlds and the last story and final boss and the Multiplayer exclusive modes then thats when all lines will have an opportunity to be used.
It’s actually a misnomer, the whole 06 being a reboot thing. It’s a misunderstanding that become popular accepted fact, born from an interview Yuji Naka gave to video game outlet at the time (I think it was IGN please feel free to fact check me on that) where he compared this game to two movies at the time, Spider-Man 3 and The Dark Knight. Now The Dark Knight was a reboot for the Batman movies at the time, but Spider-Man 3 is obviously a sequel and not a reboot. What he was trying to get across, and what was lost in translation over the years in one long game of telephone, was that 06 was supposed to be the biggest and best Sonic game that they’ve worked on, and that they had (planned) released up to that point.
It was never supposed to be a reboot, just a really big large scale game that was intended to be so much more, but Christmas couldn’t wait, and neither could SEGA management. Looking at their fiscal year I suppose I can see why they couldn’t, same applies to the massive money sink the game already was, and how it was essentially two games mashed into one. The unreleased cancelled game about a psychic character with physics based gameplay revolving around the new Havok engine. And the Sonic game planned for that year. They didn’t want to throw away all the work and money they had put into the other game, so that’s why Silver exists at all.
‘06 is a fascinating rabbit hole, and I haven’t even scratched the surface. Don’t get me started on the behind the scenes mismanagement, or the internal politics which threatened the game’s production.
Either way, I’ve been anticipating this remake since you mentioned you were doing them, especially given you recently showed off the thumbnail for the video. I could tell it wasn’t long until we got it. This was always going to be a tall task, but I think you’ve done pretty well, and it’s definitely an improvement on the original video. Which while still good, lacks a lot of the small things your newer videos don’t.
I think part of the confusion around Sonic 06 being a reboot or not stems from the fact that the language at the time was a bit more limited than it is now; imo 06 could almost perfectly be defined as a “soft reboot,” a piece of media in a pre-existing franchise that still follows the pre-existing continuity, but generally tries to distance itself a bit from it to be more accessible to newcomers, but that term didn’t really start becoming popular until the mid-2010s when the Star Wars sequel trilogy started with The Force Awakens.
If Sonic ‘06 came out 10 years later, I’m almost certain that’s how Sonic Team would’ve described what they were going for.
P.S. This is going to be a big ol’ nitpick, but the movies Yuji Naka was comparing Sonic 06 to in that interview were Batman Begins and Spider-Man 2, not their sequels The Dark Knight and Spider-Man 3, which wouldn’t come out until 2 years or so after Sonic 06.
Other than that detail, great job recapping the whole situation 👍
@@ReitheOffbeatOtaku It's not even that really, Sonic games have always been fairly self contained outside of 3 & Knuckles. 06 is just another new adventure like CD or Heroes beforehand.
Y'all, the E3 build NEEDS to be leaked one day. It will help so much with documenting what 06 could've been and it could help with modding.
Welp, Aaron himself said in a Livestream years ago that the Sonic 06 E3 Demo still exists and probably is with SEGA of Japan
@@reizorking I know, but that has a VERY low change to leak unfortunately. Maybe someone has a copy of the TGS 2006 demo, not the 05 one.
Even though P06 is a thing, I wish we were in the alternate dimension where 06 was delayed to be 07 or even 08 and met critical acclaim
The timeline where that exists would have a Sega that is completely different as a whole. Their whole history is rife with short-sighted decisions brought on by their "devil may care" attitude. Even now, they still give the least amount of care possible towards their legacy content and plaster Sonic's face on anything with a pulse.
Yeah and dimps to just make secret rings
Then again, we wouldn't have Unleashed, Colors, (Gens would've probably happened anyways) and any future games past 2010.
Hi there I'd like to introduce you to a Sonic 06 mod Legacy of Solaris-
P06 might always be a thing but it won't have story mode.
At 1:21:04 it seems to be an unfinished render of Elise's character model. The reason why I believe it's unfinished is mainly because the character model itself is pre-rendered in it's default A-Pose. Possibly, no rig is there for posing, considering that the hair texture is unfinished or being unused in this render.
The "realistic" models are also for the pre-rendered cutscenes by Blur studio, that's why they are of such high quality. They're not supposed to be found in the game since they were only made for the cinematics
Probably my favorite unused stuff in this game are the Rainbow Gem, Super Hard mode, Metal Sonic being playable (likely by collecting all of the medals), and music tracks from previous games being buyable in the shop. Also, two unused ideas that did get used in the Very Hard DLC were Sonic playing through the Ruins area of Tropical Jungle and Silver having to fight Eggman robots in Crisis City.
Another banger.
Recording hints for all characters even if you didn't know they were gonna be used was a normal thing around this time. The un used events however are clearly a sign of rush development.
The localisation not being done so close to release is also kinda normal but what's concerning is how much wasn't finished.
“Silver speed up upgrade” oh yeah don’t include the ONE upgrade that would have been useful
Random thing I wanna add, the early Crisis City theme was likely changed because it was made with Silver's level in mind, then was later edited to fit more with the other two stories. Early has this more grim feeling, while final is more "adrenaline-pumping".
Blaze has a mach speed animation too, in the past I thought it was a custom animation but after asking a 06 modder he confirmed my assumption
I’m a sucker for Mach speed sections, so it sucks we didn’t get a blaze section.
But then again we could’ve been running into a wall for the 100th time
@@degeneratemale5386 funnily enough it was planned to move mid air in these sections lmao they even considered the homing attack there’s an unused code for it
The trailer that shows a silhouette of Shadow was doing that on purpose -- it even makes a little "haha, tricked you" jingle when it cuts to Sonic.
He done it again he cooked
46:26 that voice performance was phenomenally delivered
Sonic '06 have the most jammed pack and interesting unused concepts ever!
words cant describe how awesome this video was, great work!
This game of all games of which, i'm extremely fascinated in it's development cycle. Imagine the amount of drama that went on behind the scenes
Painter's dialogue is so sweet
1:37:46 They are actually the same song, called "Sweet Sweet Sweet" by Dreams Come True.
I have a fondness for '06 and I love learning about it's cut content and prototypes! In discussions around this topic many people just circulate the same few pieces of information, but I actually learned a lot from this video!! Great work!!
There’s a reason these kind of videos are online and people like us watch them. People want complete projects, genuine art. I’ll never understand the thinking behind studios rushing their developers just to release garbage
I can see why they removed the wind safety net. For a demo that will be new for every, yay good way to help the player. But as a level tours the end of the game, the player “should” be confident in the movement to not need it. “Should”.
Sonic 06 was never a reboot. That is a fan myth. It directly continues the story of SA2 and Shadow the Hedgehog (Shadow mentions the UN President in White Acropolis and his storyline continues his development from that game.)
No official sources from Sega or Sonic Team have ever claimed 06 as a reboot. The only source to that is a Giant Bomb Article which isn’t from Sega or Sonic Team and is therefore just fan speculation over the games’ title.
11:56 The painter is in the final game, he just lacks his hat.
13:51 The present gets used (without the dialogue) in Shadow’s Save Sabrina (Lord Regis’ daughter) mission.
I believe sonic team only said the game was meant to “bring Sonic back to its roots.” Which doesn’t necessarily mean a reboot. You are correct, story wise nothing is rebooted. All of the characters already know each other.
@@TimDespairBear11 "back to roots" was a psyop from journos
@@ordovicianscourge9520lmao
Finally one of your best vídeos is out, thank you!
40:03
I could be very wrong, but Sonic's voice clip here -
Sonic: "It looks like Dr. Eggman is after the Chaos Emeralds again. Shadow, we're in this one together."
- "Again." "Again." The last time Dr. Eggman was searching for the Chaos Emeralds was in Sonic Adventure 2, working with Shadow. ( I could be wrong about that, too. Maybe Dr. Eggman was searching for them in Shadow the Hedgehog ( 2005 ). )
In Sonic Heroes, Dr. Eggman couldn't search for them because
1.) Dr. Eggman was locked up by a rouge and rebellious Metal Sonic. ( Neo Metal Sonic )
2.) Literally, the Chaos Emeralds we're flying and racing to the Goal Ring in the Special Stages.
In Shadow the Hedgehog ( 2005 ), The Black Arms came to Earth, and Black Doom wanted Shadow to collect the Chaos Emeralds so Black Doom can have them for himself.
And in Sonic Rush, The Chaos Emeralds pulled off a more stylish and groovy Sonic the Hedgehog 2.
Also, "Shadow, we're in this one together." I like this one. In both Sonic Adventure 2 and Shadow the Hedgehog ( 2005 ), Shadow searched for, and used the Chaos Emeralds either for himself or collected them for someone else. In 06, Shadow is peak, he's savin' the world. 😎
I'm crazy. lol.
You are
Well darn. 🥲
If I see someone creating a Sonic 06 Iceberg in the future, I'll definitely send this video their way. Also I'm part of the First 100 Viewers Gang now let's go!
Almost 2 hours ! You outdid yourself congrats
Amazing content, keep up!
17:34 no way I didn't know about this until today. oh my god, amazing.
Kynapse by kynogon was an advanced ai used as middleware for the “marathon” engine btw
you said it in the video nvm lmaoo
Banger video as always 🔥🔥
I think some of knuckles stage clear voice clips are used there's a glitch in the game where you can beat flame core as him in Sonic's story to hear it
1:31:18 👍
I swear to god, i was playing 06 on my ps3 yesterday and I heard this voice line "When in doubt consult your map and radar. they should tell you where to go next" i am not joking i swear
(I haven't finished the video yet but) if I remember correctly, you can actually get the 3P and 4P icons to display in normal gameplay by assigning the second player to ports other than 2.
this video was so good and enjoyable man, great stuff. I also never knew about Veronica Taylor being the voice of Elise at one point, pretty cool though since she was originally with 4kids doing Ash's voice and Sonic 06 using the 4kids voice cast so she kinda fit right in and was acquainted with her co workers like Jason, Lisa, Mike, etc. because they were all on Pokemon before
the animation seen when interacting with the wind object is actually used in the final game
the game plays it at a faster speed when you die from touching a kill plane (falling into a pit, water, etc.)
This is another great video. I really like it.
Why does everyone keep saying Sonic '06 tried to reboot the series. It's seems so clearly not true and the statement just seems ludicrous on it's face. No part of '06 tries to contradict or rewrite previous events, unless you count Blaze's origin, which seems more like a mistake to me. Is that the reason people keep saying this?
It is a soft reboot Sonic Team never stated it was a full on reboot the misconception comes from an SOA spokeman iirc implying its a “reboot” at an e3 convention
Also maekawa considers 06 to be a prequel to rush but due to being a rushed game and its story still at phase 1 completion he said its up to players interpretation
Plus 06 was supposed have an introduction story like sonic was having a vacation at soleanna like Adv1
Plus Sonic Team basically said This game was supposed to bomb like Sonic 1 did hence The Sonic Next evolution slogan and Enter the Sonic age shit
Just A bunch of middlemen lost in translation and shitty gaming journalists picking it up
Cultural reboot type of deal.
The vibe was completely different and half the ad campaign was basically focused on how the vibes/style changed
sonic 06 is similar to "ultraman the next" a ediger take that is set it's own self contained continuity
@@ordovicianscourge9520 Not familiar with "Ultraman the Next," but SA2 and Shadow are definitely edgier than their prior games, but no one considers them a "self contained continuity." It's not like Sonic Boom or Sonic X.
Here at the 119Views mark. This is amazing Cifesk, well done.
yk its a good day when cifesk has uploaded
Amazing video, took me 2 days to watch and I learned a lot I didn't previously know. Keep going and getting better!
If this game had at least 1 more year of development it would have been considered a flawed classic
I used to think dusty desert was way too short, glad to see I wasn't off about that
19:00 Isn't that model used in Shadow's story? There's a moment where he has to light up a fountain to recreate the Scepter, in preparation for his rematch with Mephiles. Picking up the Scepter is what triggers that infamous outtake from the GUN Agent!
the unused tag team dialogue for sonic and shadow sounds like it'd be for the coolest level ever i'm so sad
Love these vids, its genuinely insane how much goes unused in 06 (especially voice lines lmao) keep up the great videos 👍
I was watching this waiting for sonic 06 to load on my ps3... this video finished first. I wish this was sonic 07 or 08 coulda been something amazing
Spark the electric jester 2 and 3 share some 06 inspired ed elements, such as the difference in level completion objects, the jump roll and unrolling as well as the no delay jester dash.
At 46:04, there probably would have been a point where Sonic would have had to save a bunch of townspeople. Maybe there could have been a mission in hub area, or the first train in Radical Train could have had people on it.
luckily we have chaosx but dude imagine if they remade this game and were given a right amount of time to add EVERY SINGLE THING they intended to do for 06...
hi, I'd like to introduce you to a mod called Legacy of Solaris-
What a great video to walk my dog and smoke a joint in the park with
The files from the XBLA demo are from later in development. This information is extremely relevant...
Some of them may be, but digging deeper into XBLA outside of what's shown shows it's actually far more of a mess than retail LOL
39:02 I've ALWAYS wondered where that one drum sample came from, i remember hearing it a lot in Ben 10, especially in "Ben 10: Protector of Earth" but i wasn't able to find where it originated from.
Listening at max volume and 46:09 scared me for a sec lol
Same, I glad I had headphones on. because whichever character is was SURELY didnt seem to sound like they were in danger lmao
@@zphoenix9693didnt sound like danger at all….
Man, 06 could have been something special. It's sad.
Finally we got that Sonic 2 Bonus video. (SA2 edition) /j
bro you didn't have to scare me w that thumbnail bro, gave me a heart attack
It looks like Sonic '06 was going to have co-op but due to time constraints it got cut down and the Amigos was a compromise.
Does explain why in some stages and the hub world the other characters just follow you and not do anything
Thanks for this! Since the gems are fully functional in the Xbox Live demo, do they drain the action gauge as intended? I also wonder if the platinum hits version is based on this demo.
hey Cifesk bit late but great video!
Fantastic video. I played this game as a kid at the time it came out, and had a lot of fun with it, so I hold it with special regard for that, but now as an adult, I can see objectively why the game is terrible, which is fine. Getting to learn more about it's history is something I'll always be interested in. And this makes me sad, man. So much potential wasted, all because it just HAD to be released for the 15th anniversary. Seriously, fuck that shit. They should have waited another year. Luckly, we have Project 06 proving that this game could have been amazing.
The TGS version looks better to me! The world seemed so much bigger and the rail speed is pretty awesome to me
06 is so good i love hearing about the game its my favorite
I’m playing sonic 06 for the first time I’m 50 percent done with Sonic’s campaign and I’ve barely run into any glitches the most annoying thing is just the camera but other than that it’s been a fun play through I’m playing on 360 so idk if that helps or not
Tbh neither have I experienced many game breaking issues with it, it's just everything else that leaves a lot to be desired
@@Cifeskyeah that’s a fair point lol
You know a game was rushed when it has 1 hour of unused content
Hustun had some pretty interesting dialogue in the XBLA Demo
Sonic 06 sure is a video game (not necessarily a good one but one with a lot of cut content)
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Perhaps the concept initially was Eggman hijacking a commercial train and strapping a bomb to it (instead of just Elise being in it). And at the end in Mach Speed when you’re chasing Eggman’s train, they’re screaming for your help to save them. I’d bet money on this Theory.
And that’s why the Soleanna guards keep talking about a “situation” on the trains now not allowing anymore civilians. And why you have to take the sewer grate to sneak in. ( If it was Elise it would be full scale red alert). Not just a “don’t worry folks, nothing to see here!” Vibe with the guards
that is the EXACT original situation
Especially since the train in RCT A is different from Elise's train in B
Epic video
BRO WAS COOKING WITH THIS ONE!! 🗣🔥💯🙌
6:46 pretty late to this and I'm not sure if someone else said it but their logo seems to be on the US platinum Family Hits copy.
I LOVE SONIC 06 🔥🤘
i wonder what the writers had planned for the original story of this game to be, it seems more intereting than any sonic game story, too bad we might never know
26:17 I checked and damn you weren't lying
26:58 im the biggest silver fan ever and i didn't know that 😱😱😱😱
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Why does that look like an early version of Unleashed Sonic? I wonder if it was the bases for that design.
lets gooo!!
46:15 Hi Yugi's Grandpa! Makes sense, as it IS 4Kids after all...
Goated video
I've always wondered:
If you were to take out all of the unused stuff from the game's files, would the game still lag and slow down ?
SCU at release did lag less if you removed all unused files.
Older games are weird in the sense that even if a lot of files are unused, if you remove them some stuff will stop working
It would not, no, not because of dependencies, but because the whole reason the game lags and slows down is two fold:
a) the normal level renderer is kind of weird and not optimized well, and this can be mitigated by using patches to turn of TSAA
b) the loading times themselves is because of how loading the levels themselves work. It's usually because the object layouts are often SO big and 06 loads the ENTIRE stage at once, NOT as chunks. The stage itself does NOT cull out or have LOD applied, so the same model is loaded the entire time, even for inaccessible areas. It's partially why the draw distance is so low sometimes as well, keep the amount of objects loaded to reduce lag and load times.
I mean...Iblis does kinda look like a shrimp...sorta
i actually like this game
You should reupload the old versions of the bonus video, all you gotta do is put in the title [OUTDATED], I just don’t wants those old videos to become lost media.
That's exactly what I did haha
They're in the "Bonus Video" playlist labelled as [OLD, REMADE]
1:19:36
why didn’t they use this idea, i like it a lot
1:17:08 aint no way they went from elise being voiced by Ash Ketchum, to Meg Griffin
Hell yeah
they need to remaster and reimagine 06 in 2026 for the 20 year anniversary, i genuinely think with all the potential it had there's a chance it could've been the best sonic game of all time
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As an avid ‘06 enjoyer for its story like the adventure games (Sonic shenanigans but taken completely seriously with real world stakes. Kinda like dragon ball vibes)
I am literally gripping my head in shock with my jaw dropped truly how much is missing.
I know I’m partially bias. But think about it. This video is almost 2 hours. I promise you if I enjoy so much of what we actually got, imagine if this 2 hours of cut content was in the game?
This would be the best Sonic game of all time, and I really hope they try something like this (Adventure style) again in the future given his newfound extreme popularity due to the movies. With that popularity, give Dev’s the proper budget and time to pull this off
Please Sega ❤❤
Bro woke me up outta my coma
This game got so many unused content with Better and Cool stuff was removed in Final Game makes the Gameplay even Worse & buggy
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secret rings victory animation?
Who else remembers the Sonic 06 brick breaker flash game, that was childhood
The cut night and day cycle reminds me of when kojima wanted to do that with mgs3 but couldn't due to the ps2s limitations
39:43 Reminds me of the dinner scene from Shrek 2
YES FINALLY!🥳
22:05 shadow got caught in 4k 😂23:40😂
This video is peak SonicTube archival abilities on display. You have outdone yourself with this one, slowly but surely approaching the level of low budget documentary. All the things shown are eloquently explained, wasting no time on miniscule details and over explaining stuff, while also avoiding the near tradition of mentioning how shit this game was, just cause. Congratulations, I will be looking forward to the Unleashed video, as this is my favorite Sonic game. Godspeed!
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And uses text associated with Silver.
When is the blue sphere doilus video??
Those screams are probably meant for radical train, cause in Sonic version of the stage, he is trying to save civilians who are trapped in the train in a collision course to explosive crates
They have rct in their filename, which stands for Radical Train