He used to be the most feared character... Cause he got a new stance. Once people learned that his stance had easy counters and was easy to read; they started crying about his heat smash. Then they GUTTED his heat smash, and after that... They removed all pushback on his ff2 which already didn't have reach. The only thing I agreed with was the nerf to the Heat Smash. Cause it shouldn't have BOTH super range and super tracking. But removing BOTH as much as they did was also unnecessary. Quite the moment to be a DJ Main.
@@BlueQuartzz21 i picked him up 4 months ago knowing he was nerfed so I could play him when he gets buffed. I can cash in my dvj stocks soon right guys.... 😅 or am i just cooked and he's never getting changed.
@@chucklos391 imagine being so wrong you don't even notice. Ranked is full of crybabies. Crybabies as in only easy characters, pluggers and 1 and done players.
Regardless of everyones opinion... man I f'ing love Tekken 8. I used to play the original Tekkens. 2, 3, tag tournament. So I'm a long time fan. I skipped 4, 5, and 6. Played 7 when it was free on steam, and that got me back in the zone of returning to Fighting games after years upon years of a hiatus. Tekken 8 to me, still has all the content and techniques for hardcore users, but also gives the little guys a little something here and there to defend themselves and give them a fighting chance. Love the game. Can't wait to get off work and play more. Lars main. Currently Garyu rank.
Ranked is just so sweaty now. Feels like only people left that play are the super sweats. I keep getting pushed from Fujin to battle ruler and even at battle ruler my opponents prowess is virtually always over 200k so generally always fighting higher end of players even when you rank down
Yeah the prowess matchmakingruined ranked. Why give us ranks when its our prowess that finds opponents? Like wtf is the point of me playing a new character at orange rank when im gonna match up against purples and blues lol.
Yea it’s bad. But I think they’re doing something for that in the upcoming update where you’ll be placed with more similar prowesses and increasing points for winning against higher ranked players and reducing points lost to higher ranked players.
Hop on ranked: Yoshi, King, Panda, Ling. Half of them don't rematch. Accept a wifi just because. It's almost unplayable and he spams the whole time. Yup, that's ranked.
As a King main I can say that most of ranked King players are cheesy flowcharters. I‘m starting to hate the mirror. 4-5 months ago it was actually fun to play against most Kings, but now they only spam duck launchers and power crushes. And they get away with that shit lmao. Like my guy, I do a single round start jab and he randomly ducks and launches me.
Online Tekken is a lost cause. The modern playerbase is full of poor sportsmanship and degeneracy while the game itself rewards brainrot all too often. I tried Yoshimitsu one day and was shocked by the amount of techniques and moves I hadn't seen others do up to that point.
My advice Is to add people you enjoyed fighting. I hate tier list whores that spam like 10 moves on one character. I love people that utilize the entire movelist even if it isn’t optimal. Unless it’s ranked you should be trying to improve/have fun. Not mindlessly mashing and making the experience tedious. Which sadly a lot of people just don’t seem to understand.
I swear there's some kinda Yoshi curse in T8 specifically. Every Yoshi below King bases their gameplan on nothing but raw b22 in neutral, hopkick and uf1+2 grab. Some might spam sword sweep and flash too. After you duck the 10th b22 the smart ones might get the idea to mix it with b21, a -17 mid and a duckable -13 high. I'll get an aneurysm eventually trying to understand why even the seemingly experienced players insist on this move and why they all play the exact same with a character with around 200 moves.
You havent watched his streams then I assume. He does complain and shit on chars/players quite some bit. Those parts just like magic are cut out of the videos 😂 Edit: Credit where credit is due he also does compliment people quite a bit and is sometimes very great/helpful towards "not-so-good"/ newer players. Tho honestly sometimes it's to backhand an insult or overpraise them to downplay his loss. Edit edit: There is a channel I think called "SaltManSWE" That showcases these things really well, tho I personally think it uses too absurb languange to be taken seriously as a whole.
and paul. and reina. and jin. and devil jin. just any character that takes some spacing/execution. most tekken characters are dumb mash shit. @@Sin-pt2eq
Hopped on ranked last night as Devil Jin, (also thanks Twitter complainers for getting him nerfed to the ground) and holy crap, people still don’t block lows, or know the matchup, even falling for hell sweep. I’m honestly surprised I even made it to Battle Ruler with him
"falling for hellsweep" lol yea everybody should be able to block that everytime.... the silly stuff i see people post when trying to get on the lets crap on devil jin train lol
I definitely respect mainmanswe i was playing rank last night with devil Jin and kept getting mashed on, plugged on alot idk what's going on with rank but it's getting insane i can't even rank up my mains at all it's getting out of hand in Ranked
Man, the argument that a console is cheaper doesn't even hold up anymore. On top of the already expensive console you have to pay for online ontop of the expensive games
I agree so much about Eddy: I feel like most of the cast is ok, but Eddy (and less - Steve) animations is all the same moves. In case of Steve its ok, coz his lows is visible (I just cant make a difference which move is punishable coz most of them are boxing punches), in case of Eddy - its pure low/mid strings which you prey to duck by luck, no matter how many vids I watch how to deal with him.
I love seeing people get mad at Reina like every character within tekken doesn’t have its own gimmicks. Good matches overrall tho, smart plays and all but still love how that Reina took that 5 win streak away 😂😂
@@enderborn9209 idk if I’d classify b3 or samsara as “very good” - they’re unsafe af and b3 gets clipped if you use while someone is mashing a string in ur face. Though I won’t deny that they can be used to help avoid getting mashed to death
@@yungbruh666 i just say this because some characters like jack or bryan literally have nothing when it comes to panic buttons. as for b3 it is indeed unsafe but the fact that you can heat dash off of it makes it essentially a lockdown power mid on top of being a panic move. u4 is also death on block but you get the perk of having some of the most absurd evasion ever, which can win you the game in clutch situations. also has a pretty good sabaki.
@@gabereell I think that can be said about any character with a hopkick tbh 😅 Nah, you're right though, why does it always work with Claudio in particular?
Bro telling the Lidia to stop mashing but he is not even attempting to block when she is clearly on the offense? That didnt even look like mashing at all, just pure saltiness from tmm ngl
Asks how Paul and kazuya can mash when they have some of the safest moves in the game that can be mashed to hell. Deathfist, kazuya ff+2, paul uf+2, kazuya cd+1+2 like come on
@@baconbitz7804 but it has enough pushback to be safe from literally the entire cast, only w extreme execution w like 3 characters can you punish it. It’s like heihachi ff+2
@@shadenexus7436 a majority of the cast can punish it with some exceptions at tip range which really doesn’t matter. Also executing a demon paw is not extreme execution
@@baconbitz7804 you can’t punish deathfist w demon paw w Jin and barely can w Reina, the only reliable one is kazuya. And I’m not saying demon paw is hard, I’m saying punishing deathfist requires execution for the majority of the cast
@@shadenexus7436 my bad. Deathfist is completely safe because you can’t punish it at the absolute tip range. That doesn’t make something spammable. It requires a bit of execution but it’s really not hard to learn
No surprise as half the rooster are just circus clowns that should be deleted. Characters like Yohsimitsu, The Bears or Xiayou and Eddy for example have been funny in 1998 maybe. But nowadays in 2024, playing this online on a competitive level, those characters are just absurd and shouldnt be in the game anymore. Good thing Lei Wulong is dead at least
crazy how tekken was completely fine when this dude was on a break, he comes back then some how the whole game is a pile of shit. used to love this guy.... kinda sucks he sucks now
Hes just frustrated from playing so many dishonest characters in a row while playing the most honest/ most worst character in the game. I will agree that he is abit negative but he does get like this sometimes when he plays dvj
DVJ got the Leroy treatment in T7... He's no a well-rounded Mishima based on 50/50 anymore( he his the only mishima who doesn't have a i13f electric and cd4 sucks ass due to abnourmous recoverable health and no oki), he has no poking, his flash punch is the worst in the game, his ff2 is by far the worst among all mishimas, every thing you press is quite unsafe, no fast counter hits launchers and i could go on. This character is still usable thanks to gimmicks, electrics and cd4, and it requires a lot of practice... The only nerf i can understand is the heat smash, he shouldn't had got that range and that tracking but they should have nerfed only the latter to be fair
@@RotateMotor how’s his electric a 13 frame punish ? I doubled checked, it’s 11 frames just like the rest of the mishimas so are you implying the inputs are harder or something ? All mishimas have 11 frame electrics
@@zer0cx110 yeah, but kaz has 13 frames perfect Electric thanks to mist step, Reina same thing and Jin has Breaking step. Heihachi will have a similar thing with new stance. So DVJ is the only one with no perfect electric option🥲
@@semaj06Free games that you pay a subscription to have, most of which are bad anyway. Also, a good majority of which can just be played on an emulator (which you don't buy) or are free on PC anyway. Trust me, I grew up with Playstation, but paying $80 just to play online and get some monthly bland games just ain't worth the poor loading times, terrible servers, limited selection of games, and overall lower possibility with said games. If online was free, I'd probably be playing Tekken 8 on a PS5 right now, but that price increase for online is what sealed it for me. It's not the only reason, but it was the deciding factor
Im tired of people in the comments acting like DVJ is the literal worst character in the game by a large margin. He's not the best competitive Character and has a execution barrier, but that's about it. Even the worst Mishima demon paw is still a demon paw, electric is still a top 5-10 move, his hellsweep is arguably one of the best high risk high reward Lows in the game. Flash punches are good. The list goes on. He has tools that straight up suck hard but if you play to his strengths he's a decent character. Yes he's not pick up and play but please stop pretending he has literally nothing to work with. Hes not great, but also not unusable.
The thing that bothers me the most about Devil Jin's situation is that most people who say he's strong don't even know how to play the game. Not to mention that they won't even have tried it. Just to clarify, it's not that Devil Jin doesn't have tools but they are so much less effective than the other mishimas, that it's unnerving. Not to mention that if I do the infamous hellswip launcher you'll have a shit ton of recoverable life and the fact that is soo fucking punishable (In most of his moves).
Pls go play ranked and try get him fujin, his fundamentals are dogshit, bc he is a gimmick character and guess what, all his gimmicks got nerfed His hellsweep doesn't do as much damage His demon paw tracks for shit, has shit range, worse than a jab and is unsafe Everything devil jin does is a 50/50, if the enemy knows how to block his moves, than every single one of djs moves are punishable, which makes him absolutely bottom 3
Dunno about hellsweep. Ofc it is amazing move, but it doesn't give you something better than 45~ damage with ton of recoverable health and you ever can't use vortex after this. And for this amount of damage you always risk to got launcher which take a half of your HP if you hit block. Also at the wall it's basically the worst hellsweep, you can't do any wallcombo with it, you even don't get any guarantee damage after hellsweep at the wall, and at the wall you get for some reason less damage from hellsweep than if you do it in the center of the map. With DJ you can't play safe, you always must trade your HP and always play risky for win, and risk with hellsweep just simply not reward you enough.
They just hear something once and repeat it til their hair falls out it’s very annoying and you kno none of them are past purple talking like they know something. Dogshit fundamentals ? Trust me that’s a skill issue nerd
ur telling me prior to this video (im still enjoying it) u were tekken emperror with your devil jin?! I AM TEKKEN KING UR SO CLOSE I COULD'VE SNIPED A 1 BAR GAME?! Life time opportunity missed
lol this is me rn in ranked idk what's hapnening. Its somehow worse in blue ranks compared to ruler. I've run into multiple victor, leroy, lidia as bryan. Clownfest.
Isn’t funny how people complain about Yoshi being a flash, unblockable spammer, but when you fight a Yoshi that doesn’t do even a single one of that moves you still find something to complain about? Jesus, the Tekken community is really garbage
It’s like telling a Mishima player to not use electrics even though it’s their main launcher. But hey, I get your point. Although, it’s difficult to continue.
@@sasaki--6212 i dont think most people dislike (if it is its missplaced) that people use Flash alot, as you say its one of yoshis best moves rn. Its just that it should probably get nerfed a little. Dont hate the Player, hate the good move. They could also just nerf yoshis kit, so that he does not have so many good "tekken moves" ontop of the yoshi shit.
you do realize only the presence of flash is strong enough? Because the other player still has to play around it. its something that comed into play in higher ranks tho since there the mind games begin. Its the dame with his stupid spin, he doesn't have to use it the presence alone is super strong.
That's because Flash is only the main one. Yoshi has so much goofy stuff in his moveset that it would take an essay to gripe about all of it at the same time
How does Kazuya mash? Oh i will tell you. Blue - gold ranks Kaz players they never block, its always df2, down jab, 1 2 4 3 string😂 I rarely meet a Kazuya that is patient
Why do so many good players not react fast enough to 1,1,2 punishes or dont finish the 2. I am a scrub compared to tmms but I'll always punish someone that whiffs a hop kick in my face or does a 13 frame punishable move even if im late i still at least 1,1 and confirm 2 if i can punish and on a good day I'll ewgf punish big whiffs.
i really dont understand u mainman, the victor main was decent and by the way you're like 5 ranks higher than him and still u complain. i really wanna watch one video where you don't complain about all the characters it really began to feel like if you don't play the hardest or bottom tier characters you're a shitty player and carried like come on. i really hope you're just messing around
Dude it is annoying. Maybe you don’t play a lot becusss I just laugh when he complains as I relate to it. Maybe if you can’t and need someone constantly happy and positive you should watch someone else. My favorite thing about TMM is he shares HIS opinion. Why on gods green earth should he change his behavior. For azizkhalid1773???🤡🤣
Dude its obnoxious as fuck. Maybe you don’t play a lot becusss I just laugh when he complains as I relate to it. Maybe if you can’t and need someone constantly happy and positive you should watch someone else. My favorite thing about TMM is he shares HIS opinion. Why on gods green earth should he change his behavior. For azizkhalid1773???🤡🤣
I dont know about the 55 damage hell sweep 😅 DJ can launch you from the wave dash mixup (even though crouch dash cancel takes some technique) 55 damage seems too much
@@daro375 Sure, and I gave an example where the move is used not in a vacuum, but in a mixup. I agree that doesn't make the character automatically good, but there are other ways to improve the move that don't imply a 40% damage increase on an unreactable low. You can give more frames on hit to CD4,4 for example. Also bd2 should get more damage. 55 damage on the hellsweep basically means you win the round hitting an unreactable low three times. That's crazy.
TMM thinking he's a boomer for not wanting to play on console is wild, in my experience the one who told you can do a lot of stuff on PC are the zoomer one, not the boomer 💀💀
If you can afford a console you can afford a PC, end of story. Yes, it might be a bit less powerful /$ spent initially, but come the fuck on, you can buy used parts, you can upgrade, pc games tend to be cheaper and on sale more often, you can emulate... I could go on and on. @@trinixjin8039 I don't think console vs pc is an age thing, it's an IQ thing.
What a weirdo. you ignore that schizo one and dones every single player who isn’t a content creator/streamer. Because he’s an actual parasite. Also nobody likes the Yoshi matchup in 8. If you actually played the game you might’ve known that. But your title is keyboard warrior.
i like MMSWE but he always complains and stereotypes other players gameplay all the time before the match even starts. everyone doesnt mash EWGF like you did starting at 15:08
Mashing when you’re on offense, regardless of your frame advantage, is what he’s complaining about, and is a completely valid complaint. It’s just abusing your characters t8 design.
Man look at devil jin. He used to be one of the most feared characters in the game. And now, I just feel like they nerfed him a bit too much.
He used to be the most feared character... Cause he got a new stance. Once people learned that his stance had easy counters and was easy to read; they started crying about his heat smash. Then they GUTTED his heat smash, and after that... They removed all pushback on his ff2 which already didn't have reach. The only thing I agreed with was the nerf to the Heat Smash. Cause it shouldn't have BOTH super range and super tracking. But removing BOTH as much as they did was also unnecessary.
Quite the moment to be a DJ Main.
his gimmicks are not that good against s tier characters but he is still pretty fun
@@BlueQuartzz21 i picked him up 4 months ago knowing he was nerfed so I could play him when he gets buffed.
I can cash in my dvj stocks soon right guys.... 😅 or am i just cooked and he's never getting changed.
But atleast hes not overtuned. Compare heihachi and kazuya to him. Nothing crazy
@GGray1 we are 🍳 my G 😂 they ain't buffing him not by much at least.
Nothing stings like ranked Tekken
Tekken is tough. Ranked Tekken is for men. Not for cry babies.
stinks*
I much prefer it over ranked League of Legends
So you've never played fifa🤨
@@chucklos391 imagine being so wrong you don't even notice. Ranked is full of crybabies. Crybabies as in only easy characters, pluggers and 1 and done players.
Regardless of everyones opinion... man I f'ing love Tekken 8. I used to play the original Tekkens. 2, 3, tag tournament. So I'm a long time fan.
I skipped 4, 5, and 6. Played 7 when it was free on steam, and that got me back in the zone of returning to Fighting games after years upon years of a hiatus.
Tekken 8 to me, still has all the content and techniques for hardcore users, but also gives the little guys a little something here and there to defend themselves and give them a fighting chance.
Love the game. Can't wait to get off work and play more.
Lars main. Currently Garyu rank.
Ranked is just so sweaty now. Feels like only people left that play are the super sweats. I keep getting pushed from Fujin to battle ruler and even at battle ruler my opponents prowess is virtually always over 200k so generally always fighting higher end of players even when you rank down
I only play against friends now. Even quick play is super sweats lol
Yeah the prowess matchmakingruined ranked. Why give us ranks when its our prowess that finds opponents? Like wtf is the point of me playing a new character at orange rank when im gonna match up against purples and blues lol.
Yea it’s bad. But I think they’re doing something for that in the upcoming update where you’ll be placed with more similar prowesses and increasing points for winning against higher ranked players and reducing points lost to higher ranked players.
After taking a month break Im ready to remember why I took a month break
Finally Some Daba Jin from the MainMan
Alisa is the only Character I see that is in Bushin and cant properly Punish a Hellsweep
Duuuuude, my thoughts exactly
As a hwoarang in tekken king i can sadly assure you this is not the case lol.
Devil jin is trash, thats why Qudans is not even TOP 5 anymore...
Hop on ranked: Yoshi, King, Panda, Ling. Half of them don't rematch. Accept a wifi just because. It's almost unplayable and he spams the whole time.
Yup, that's ranked.
As a King main I can say that most of ranked King players are cheesy flowcharters. I‘m starting to hate the mirror. 4-5 months ago it was actually fun to play against most Kings, but now they only spam duck launchers and power crushes. And they get away with that shit lmao. Like my guy, I do a single round start jab and he randomly ducks and launches me.
Online Tekken is a lost cause. The modern playerbase is full of poor sportsmanship and degeneracy while the game itself rewards brainrot all too often. I tried Yoshimitsu one day and was shocked by the amount of techniques and moves I hadn't seen others do up to that point.
My advice Is to add people you enjoyed fighting. I hate tier list whores that spam like 10 moves on one character. I love people that utilize the entire movelist even if it isn’t optimal. Unless it’s ranked you should be trying to improve/have fun. Not mindlessly mashing and making the experience tedious. Which sadly a lot of people just don’t seem to understand.
I swear there's some kinda Yoshi curse in T8 specifically. Every Yoshi below King bases their gameplan on nothing but raw b22 in neutral, hopkick and uf1+2 grab.
Some might spam sword sweep and flash too.
After you duck the 10th b22 the smart ones might get the idea to mix it with b21, a -17 mid and a duckable -13 high.
I'll get an aneurysm eventually trying to understand why even the seemingly experienced players insist on this move and why they all play the exact same with a character with around 200 moves.
11:15 Bro had a ptsd flashback and it stunlocked him for a half second. This hike did something to him.
I think why I like watching this guy is because he straight up compliments his opponent when they do something good instead of complaining
Only if they play kazuya and Brian
You havent watched his streams then I assume. He does complain and shit on chars/players quite some bit.
Those parts just like magic are cut out of the videos 😂
Edit: Credit where credit is due he also does compliment people quite a bit and is sometimes very great/helpful towards "not-so-good"/ newer players.
Tho honestly sometimes it's to backhand an insult or overpraise them to downplay his loss.
Edit edit:
There is a channel I think called "SaltManSWE" That showcases these things really well, tho I personally think it uses too absurb languange to be taken seriously as a whole.
and paul. and reina. and jin. and devil jin. just any character that takes some spacing/execution. most tekken characters are dumb mash shit. @@Sin-pt2eq
@@j0hnicide Jin doesn’t take much execution outside of electrics after CD1, but yeah praises those characters
Wants defensive options but calls Yoshi defence options cheese.
I swear jin/devil jin players are throwing the complicated wire throw more and more recently
dude it's a whole motion input just for it to be broken
@juiceer3320 no you press 1, don't talk.
@@jac1793 I agree, he is lil man.
Hopped on ranked last night as Devil Jin, (also thanks Twitter complainers for getting him nerfed to the ground) and holy crap, people still don’t block lows, or know the matchup, even falling for hell sweep. I’m honestly surprised I even made it to Battle Ruler with him
"falling for hellsweep" lol yea everybody should be able to block that everytime.... the silly stuff i see people post when trying to get on the lets crap on devil jin train lol
JABO JIN 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
They made him weak so when Heihachi comes he's #1 Mishima.
I definitely respect mainmanswe i was playing rank last night with devil Jin and kept getting mashed on, plugged on alot idk what's going on with rank but it's getting insane i can't even rank up my mains at all it's getting out of hand in Ranked
Man, the argument that a console is cheaper doesn't even hold up anymore. On top of the already expensive console you have to pay for online ontop of the expensive games
21:34 Good God the rest of this round was cool to watch
Back 4 on eddy works really well with dvj
how does he hit the ws3 after hellsweep so flawlessly?
Hold 3 and do a ws4 from crouch dash
@@zesork5627Holy shit man this helped a lot thank you! I was dashing then crouching then making ws3😅
I agree so much about Eddy: I feel like most of the cast is ok, but Eddy (and less - Steve) animations is all the same moves. In case of Steve its ok, coz his lows is visible (I just cant make a difference which move is punishable coz most of them are boxing punches), in case of Eddy - its pure low/mid strings which you prey to duck by luck, no matter how many vids I watch how to deal with him.
I love seeing people get mad at Reina like every character within tekken doesn’t have its own gimmicks. Good matches overrall tho, smart plays and all but still love how that Reina took that 5 win streak away 😂😂
Average Reina main. The character is as easy as jin lol she doesn't even need to wavedash and still be good.
@@bapesta5277funny joke
@@bapesta5277 Reina and Easy should not be in the same sentence. The hell are you talking about?
SWE you said my favorite line "random bullshit GO" lol
I’m excited for new dlc cuz it’s an op character I enjoy and love
I like MainMan's game with deviljin more than with kazuya
I don’t care if people think he’s low tier he’s fun af to play.
I think dvj is the easiest char to get mash stance pressured to death in the game
Lol yes your opponent has to be scared of dvj to even be able to do anything hahaha
he has like 3 very good panic buttons wdym lmao devil jin has a lot of weaknesses but this ain't one of them
@enderborn9209 well for someone not masterful of dvj its hard to know when to do anything while being pressured
@@enderborn9209 idk if I’d classify b3 or samsara as “very good” - they’re unsafe af and b3 gets clipped if you use while someone is mashing a string in ur face. Though I won’t deny that they can be used to help avoid getting mashed to death
@@yungbruh666 i just say this because some characters like jack or bryan literally have nothing when it comes to panic buttons.
as for b3 it is indeed unsafe but the fact that you can heat dash off of it makes it essentially a lockdown power mid on top of being a panic move. u4 is also death on block but you get the perk of having some of the most absurd evasion ever, which can win you the game in clutch situations. also has a pretty good sabaki.
Raven: Domain Expansion: Infinite Ping 👐
Damm dude it hurts me that almost all victor players use him for pure offense coming from a victor main myself (I’m unorthodox with him)
Hell yeah some Diablo Jim gameplay
its crazy how you need to do PhD levels of WS3 execution to even get any damage from hell sweep bound
Even then hellsweep does no damage
Who's ready to fight heihachi!!!? I'm actually excited to fight him.
Yep, I dropped ranked 3 months ago.
JAABOO JIM
thanks for reminding me why I haven't booted up tekken 8 for 2 months
YOSHI IS THE "LOL" SONG MADE INTO A CHARACTER
At least you didn't have to deal with cheaters and pluggers
every time i pick dj all this characters come to play hahahaha and it'll always be like this when you pick dj only
Or will be a god of destruction dragunov( dvj is orange rank)
Hahaha TMM you should bring your grandparents too on the next 4-day hike
Lydia is Jin but as DLC and has stances
That’s an insane take
What do you mash with
Paul
Kazuya
Steve
Claudio.
Steve’s an easy 1…
B1
Kazuya can spam ff2, d1+2, cd1+2 and heat 1+4
mash random claudio hopkick in the middle of a block string. works everytime.
@@gabereell I think that can be said about any character with a hopkick tbh 😅
Nah, you're right though, why does it always work with Claudio in particular?
@@chakrashadow3220 for reals its justa top tier hop kick because of the early high and low evasion. also got hella range.
17:15 Don’t all DLC’s start at the lowest rank possible?
not anymore
Only eddy did
i was learning DJ today, he sucks but he is fun to play as with the flying and the lasers. might make him my main just to troll 😂
Lol "rage art into plug"
PS5 PRO IS A IS DAMN NEAR 1000 IN AMERICA WITH TAX INCLUDED
that raven match was too painful to watch
Hopefully he gets buffed next patch 🙏😭
Hehehehe this aged poorly.
Bro telling the Lidia to stop mashing but he is not even attempting to block when she is clearly on the offense? That didnt even look like mashing at all, just pure saltiness from tmm ngl
That’s just how Lidia is played too. Mainman respected his stance pressure so he had time to transition to a stronger stance and mix him
@@baconbitz7804 bro saw Lidia in heat coming towards him and said she was mashing. And chat was agreeing too
@@Dank_Knight99 MainMan fans are pretty dumb. I saw them saying that JFSR takes less execution than electric because Hwoarang bad
Literally, the Lidia got a way with a ton of fake stuff. He doesn’t know the matchup then complains that hes mashing????
You can interrupt Lidia from anything lol nothing she has is real.
What does dj say when he goes into heat? “Must skeet again”? “Mosquito than”?
Basically says, you pesky insect. Or calls you annoying insect one of the two.
Did they make a change to combo damage in this game or am I tripping???
BBAAGUUUUUSHH-AH
12:47 "stop mashing" talking to a Lidia player 😆 yeah i wish
Why is mainman silenced about puffy diddy case..???
He said himself he is happy about what diddy did on stream
@@ukxsuby 😭
@@GamerOfTheYear98 😂😂😂
Asks how Paul and kazuya can mash when they have some of the safest moves in the game that can be mashed to hell. Deathfist, kazuya ff+2, paul uf+2, kazuya cd+1+2 like come on
Deathfist isn’t safe
@@baconbitz7804 but it has enough pushback to be safe from literally the entire cast, only w extreme execution w like 3 characters can you punish it. It’s like heihachi ff+2
@@shadenexus7436 a majority of the cast can punish it with some exceptions at tip range which really doesn’t matter. Also executing a demon paw is not extreme execution
@@baconbitz7804 you can’t punish deathfist w demon paw w Jin and barely can w Reina, the only reliable one is kazuya. And I’m not saying demon paw is hard, I’m saying punishing deathfist requires execution for the majority of the cast
@@shadenexus7436 my bad. Deathfist is completely safe because you can’t punish it at the absolute tip range. That doesn’t make something spammable. It requires a bit of execution but it’s really not hard to learn
I think he only likes going against like 7-8 characters in this whole game
Because game is in shit state
More like 4.
No surprise as half the rooster are just circus clowns that should be deleted. Characters like Yohsimitsu, The Bears or Xiayou and Eddy for example have been funny in 1998 maybe.
But nowadays in 2024, playing this online on a competitive level, those characters are just absurd and shouldnt be in the game anymore. Good thing Lei Wulong is dead at least
@@Alex-Omegadont agree about yoshimitsu. Hes super cool and belongs in tekken forever and i dont even play him.
@@bapesta52773,1 and 3,2 coming out at the same frame is super cool and so fair. Yoshi is so fair to play against man it's true.
Lag battle goes crazy
What’s the song Mainman uses in the Lydia fight?
Antares
You can’t mash with Hwoarang. I tried once 😂 he just kept switching sides
Yoshi is not that Busted. 50:41 that D22 should not have wiffed. and it happens way too often.
I don’t understand, at 20:45 Reina sidewalks the charge up move and gets hit anyway??? What are you supposed to do???
He walked the wrong way
@@justhit6673 ohhhh, gotcha. I mean in this case it looks like the wall might have botched it anyway so you’re just boned, but that’s good to know ty
@@joeyparker2528 yeah lmao those are the worse situations when the way to step has the wall right there 💀
crazy how tekken was completely fine when this dude was on a break, he comes back then some how the whole game is a pile of shit. used to love this guy.... kinda sucks he sucks now
Hes just frustrated from playing so many dishonest characters in a row while playing the most honest/ most worst character in the game. I will agree that he is abit negative but he does get like this sometimes when he plays dvj
People complain about devil Jin like he’s the worst character in the game… when he’s not…
Well… play heiachi, he seems OP
DVJ got the Leroy treatment in T7... He's no a well-rounded Mishima based on 50/50 anymore( he his the only mishima who doesn't have a i13f electric and cd4 sucks ass due to abnourmous recoverable health and no oki), he has no poking, his flash punch is the worst in the game, his ff2 is by far the worst among all mishimas, every thing you press is quite unsafe, no fast counter hits launchers and i could go on. This character is still usable thanks to gimmicks, electrics and cd4, and it requires a lot of practice... The only nerf i can understand is the heat smash, he shouldn't had got that range and that tracking but they should have nerfed only the latter to be fair
@@RotateMotor how’s his electric a 13 frame punish ? I doubled checked, it’s 11 frames just like the rest of the mishimas so are you implying the inputs are harder or something ?
All mishimas have 11 frame electrics
@@zer0cx110 yeah, but kaz has 13 frames perfect Electric thanks to mist step, Reina same thing and Jin has Breaking step. Heihachi will have a similar thing with new stance. So DVJ is the only one with no perfect electric option🥲
@@zer0cx110Crouchdash takes 3 frames to input, but due to mist step, kazuya and reina can do it in 2 frames. An ewgf is never i11, because of this.
What’s the ost main man was during the Lydia matches in the coliseum stage
Antares from Tekken 5
Plus frames are a mindset
NEVER DO ELECTRIC FISTS FREELY .... IT BREAKS YOUR GUARD !!!
This vid is fire
how does "stream sniping" affect a fighting game? i still dont get it
It’s pretty easy to spoof your location to the player and match their search preferences
#MainManGoggins
The literal reason I didn't buy a PS4 is because those losers at Sony made PSN a subscription. But PC is way better anyways.
It's worth it for the amount of free games you get. More than worth it.
@@semaj06 "free games" I laugh in PC
@@semaj06Free games that you pay a subscription to have, most of which are bad anyway. Also, a good majority of which can just be played on an emulator (which you don't buy) or are free on PC anyway.
Trust me, I grew up with Playstation, but paying $80 just to play online and get some monthly bland games just ain't worth the poor loading times, terrible servers, limited selection of games, and overall lower possibility with said games. If online was free, I'd probably be playing Tekken 8 on a PS5 right now, but that price increase for online is what sealed it for me. It's not the only reason, but it was the deciding factor
@@JONtheULTIMATE I don't get it. You get free games on steam?
@semaj06 it's okay, if you ever get a PC you'll figure it out.
hell yeah
Im tired of people in the comments acting like DVJ is the literal worst character in the game by a large margin.
He's not the best competitive Character and has a execution barrier, but that's about it.
Even the worst Mishima demon paw is still a demon paw, electric is still a top 5-10 move, his hellsweep is arguably one of the best high risk high reward Lows in the game. Flash punches are good. The list goes on.
He has tools that straight up suck hard but if you play to his strengths he's a decent character. Yes he's not pick up and play but please stop pretending he has literally nothing to work with. Hes not great, but also not unusable.
The thing that bothers me the most about Devil Jin's situation is that most people who say he's strong don't even know how to play the game. Not to mention that they won't even have tried it. Just to clarify, it's not that Devil Jin doesn't have tools but they are so much less effective than the other mishimas, that it's unnerving. Not to mention that if I do the infamous hellswip launcher you'll have a shit ton of recoverable life and the fact that is soo fucking punishable (In most of his moves).
Pls go play ranked and try get him fujin, his fundamentals are dogshit, bc he is a gimmick character and guess what, all his gimmicks got nerfed
His hellsweep doesn't do as much damage
His demon paw tracks for shit, has shit range, worse than a jab and is unsafe
Everything devil jin does is a 50/50, if the enemy knows how to block his moves, than every single one of djs moves are punishable, which makes him absolutely bottom 3
High reward? His hellsweep gives like 14 real damage and the rest is recoverable with no oki
Dunno about hellsweep. Ofc it is amazing move, but it doesn't give you something better than 45~ damage with ton of recoverable health and you ever can't use vortex after this. And for this amount of damage you always risk to got launcher which take a half of your HP if you hit block. Also at the wall it's basically the worst hellsweep, you can't do any wallcombo with it, you even don't get any guarantee damage after hellsweep at the wall, and at the wall you get for some reason less damage from hellsweep than if you do it in the center of the map.
With DJ you can't play safe, you always must trade your HP and always play risky for win, and risk with hellsweep just simply not reward you enough.
They just hear something once and repeat it til their hair falls out it’s very annoying and you kno none of them are past purple talking like they know something. Dogshit fundamentals ? Trust me that’s a skill issue nerd
yoooo how u doing tmm?
ur telling me prior to this video (im still enjoying it) u were tekken emperror with your devil jin?! I AM TEKKEN KING UR SO CLOSE I COULD'VE SNIPED A 1 BAR GAME?! Life time opportunity missed
DEH DEH DEH DEH DEH DEH
Dear TMM why does your 1080p look like 480?
Because its a you problem his vid looks crisp
@@burntpotato7116 why you offended by that question.. it was just an innocent one at that too
@@amospoumai6369I dont think he was offended he just answered you lmao
@@bictur how does him saying that its a me problem that i see the video in low quality despite it being 1080p considered an answer?
@@bictur also, compare to other videos of same content i.e tekken, i always watch it on 1080... soo i kinda felt like the video quality was low..
average ranked experience
Can someone teach me how to do devil jin unbreakable heat grab on PS5
lol this is me rn in ranked idk what's hapnening. Its somehow worse in blue ranks compared to ruler. I've run into multiple victor, leroy, lidia as bryan. Clownfest.
People button mash in all ranks😭😭
Why would bro play against thay raven and not just cancel in the first round
Isn’t funny how people complain about Yoshi being a flash, unblockable spammer, but when you fight a Yoshi that doesn’t do even a single one of that moves you still find something to complain about? Jesus, the Tekken community is really garbage
It’s like telling a Mishima player to not use electrics even though it’s their main launcher. But hey, I get your point. Although, it’s difficult to continue.
@@sasaki--6212 i dont think most people dislike (if it is its missplaced) that people use Flash alot, as you say its one of yoshis best moves rn. Its just that it should probably get nerfed a little. Dont hate the Player, hate the good move.
They could also just nerf yoshis kit, so that he does not have so many good "tekken moves" ontop of the yoshi shit.
you do realize only the presence of flash is strong enough? Because the other player still has to play around it.
its something that comed into play in higher ranks tho since there the mind games begin.
Its the dame with his stupid spin, he doesn't have to use it the presence alone is super strong.
That's because Flash is only the main one. Yoshi has so much goofy stuff in his moveset that it would take an essay to gripe about all of it at the same time
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How does Kazuya mash? Oh i will tell you. Blue - gold ranks Kaz players they never block, its always df2, down jab, 1 2 4 3 string😂 I rarely meet a Kazuya that is patient
Why do so many good players not react fast enough to 1,1,2 punishes or dont finish the 2. I am a scrub compared to tmms but I'll always punish someone that whiffs a hop kick in my face or does a 13 frame punishable move even if im late i still at least 1,1 and confirm 2 if i can punish and on a good day I'll ewgf punish big whiffs.
i noticed kip ups are frequent against mishimas who wavu on oki
how do you even kip up?
Hold forward when you’re about to touch the ground
What is the counter play to Kip ups? They seem to recover very quickly. I guess just demon paw them
@@MyUniqueHandle.I don’t play mishimas but probably steel pedal or some kind of tornado move out of wavedash
i really dont understand u mainman, the victor main was decent and by the way you're like 5 ranks higher than him and still u complain. i really wanna watch one video where you don't complain about all the characters it really began to feel like if you don't play the hardest or bottom tier characters you're a shitty player and carried like come on. i really hope you're just messing around
Dude it is annoying. Maybe you don’t play a lot becusss I just laugh when he complains as I relate to it. Maybe if you can’t and need someone constantly happy and positive you should watch someone else. My favorite thing about TMM is he shares HIS opinion. Why on gods green earth should he change his behavior. For azizkhalid1773???🤡🤣
Dude its obnoxious as fuck. Maybe you don’t play a lot becusss I just laugh when he complains as I relate to it. Maybe if you can’t and need someone constantly happy and positive you should watch someone else. My favorite thing about TMM is he shares HIS opinion. Why on gods green earth should he change his behavior. For azizkhalid1773???🤡🤣
When you have almost half of the community watching you everything you say is a statement even if he doesn’t like it
@@GrogedUp and who tf are you? His secretary? Get off his d
@@azizkhalid1773 knock it off lmao
At 13:21, Jayworld is a prophet in the chat.
417 ms is so crazy to me 😭😭
Picked up debble jim recently. Insanely sick character but he is some *_HOT ASS_*
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I dont know about the 55 damage hell sweep 😅 DJ can launch you from the wave dash mixup (even though crouch dash cancel takes some technique) 55 damage seems too much
The character got 0 safe mid launchers, the worst demon paw and terrible poking. Don't look at moves in a vacuum. Look at them as a kit
@@daro375 Sure, and I gave an example where the move is used not in a vacuum, but in a mixup. I agree that doesn't make the character automatically good, but there are other ways to improve the move that don't imply a 40% damage increase on an unreactable low. You can give more frames on hit to CD4,4 for example. Also bd2 should get more damage. 55 damage on the hellsweep basically means you win the round hitting an unreactable low three times. That's crazy.
@@ASASID2most of that damage is recoverable
@@OctopusH2O true but they could change that instead of increasing base damage
Only way for current DJ to exceed 50dmg from hellsweep is if he heat dashes
You need a break man 💀 i mean REALLY a long break
TMM thinking he's a boomer for not wanting to play on console is wild, in my experience the one who told you can do a lot of stuff on PC are the zoomer one, not the boomer 💀💀
Younger folks cant afford PC so you'll mostly hear older gamers mentioning it.
If you can afford a console you can afford a PC, end of story. Yes, it might be a bit less powerful /$ spent initially, but come the fuck on, you can buy used parts, you can upgrade, pc games tend to be cheaper and on sale more often, you can emulate... I could go on and on.
@@trinixjin8039
I don't think console vs pc is an age thing, it's an IQ thing.
@@trinixjin8039the fuck you mean younger folks can't afford PC's
Why you block schizophrenic after you defeat him wtf 😂😂😂
Come on it haunts you forever. 😂😂😂😂
What a weirdo. you ignore that schizo one and dones every single player who isn’t a content creator/streamer. Because he’s an actual parasite. Also nobody likes the Yoshi matchup in 8. If you actually played the game you might’ve known that. But your title is keyboard warrior.
Let’s go
Is TMM getting whinier or has he always been this bad?
Shame on Tekken for even allowing matches like that Raven one
i like MMSWE but he always complains and stereotypes other players gameplay all the time before the match even starts. everyone doesnt mash EWGF like you did starting at 15:08
Sometimes it’s good to mash one option in neutral to see how your opponent responds. MM was complaining more about mashing on negative
Mashing when you’re on offense, regardless of your frame advantage, is what he’s complaining about, and is a completely valid complaint. It’s just abusing your characters t8 design.
Cough LIDIA cough
@@AlandisNso you’re saying I shouldn’t take my own plus frame? Get out of here with that brain dead take
Use the gimmicks
Please dont buy the ps5 pro, they deliberately didnt manufacture enough ps5s, and now this is seeming like the reason why
24:45 💀💀💀💀💀