Little League World Series Ends On Walk-off Bunt Mistake
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The coach of FL was incredible in forgoing his teams celebration and consoling the 2nd baseman from Taiwan right after the play.
It's what a real man does
@@rencleavus5213 It says "the 2nd baseman"? What a great coach and example for all. Perfect bunt, from what I saw.
Excellent game, thanks for the video,didn't see where the first baseman was yesterday on tv
@@cdrum5994 He was ONLY….100% SUCKING UP to the TV CAMERAS!!!
i mean its a game and kids.
that said. way world is atm. i shocked they keep score. that everyone doesnt get trohpies for just playing in little league.
'Nobody on', we have a runner here at second base. Love it!
Obviously no body **out**
@@FadkinsDiet Not obvious but can be deduced....if you believe the rest of what he said.
At first I was confused but then realized he meant 'out' and not 'on'.
Yea. It's funny. Obviously.
Runner got to 2nd quickly!
Yeah the 2nd baseman botched his assignment, but if the pitcher would have held the ball, we'd still have a game on our hands. There were a couple of mistakes that cost them.
Agreed. This is primarily the pitcher's fault. Hundreds of times I've seen Little Leaguers make split second decisions to throw or not throw the ball based on where other players are located. A pitcher fielding a grounder runs to first himself if no one is covering. A cutoff man either throws to home or not depending on where the runners are, and if the catcher or anyone is covering home.
Looks like 3 mistakes to me including 1st baseman failing to crash.
OR, 1B was supposed to stay at 1b and 2b was ok. They could play it either way
For a right handed batter, the pitcher fields the bunt to the right side. The first baseman stays at first. The second baseman did exactly what he was supposed to do, go to second. The third baseman shoes to third in case there is a play. Instead, the first baseman rushed to the ball with the pitcher, that was the mistake. Of course, the pitcher could have just held on to the ball, extending the game. I think we are so used to seeing major leaguers play this just right it’s strange when this happens.
The right fielder should have been charging to 1st base. He should have been covering the throw also. He may have got an interference call. Great game!
@Antonelli Baseball Just some food for thought: As a Little League coach, I felt that the field is small enough for the Pitcher, Catcher and 3B to cover a bunt. I always kept my 1B at his position to handle the throw. Often times, the 2B on a Little League team is the shortest kid on the team, so keeping my tall, experienced 1B at home was a smart thing to do. What do you think?
some other commenters here agree with you
On the 60 ft diamond, you don’t usually see both 1B and 3B crashing. The infield is small and the pitchers are generally athletic. So you usually have a RHP cover bunts to the first base side and the third baseman crash. The opposite, if you’ve got a LHP.
I think that’s what happened here. Third baseman crashed aggressively, pitcher fielded as if there was no doubt whose play it was. I think the first baseman was supposed to stay home but got confused and came in late.
That's my read on it. Plus, the second baseman was shading second all along. I don't think he gets to first base in time regardless.
most helpful 2 comments I've read here for understanding what happened
I think you are correct. The first baseman was the player who made the mistake/ missed their assignment here, not the second baseman.
Somebody on defense still managed to collect the ball and attempt a play at home. The ball was thrown high and arrived about three seconds too late, but at least someone on the defense didn't just give up, so thumbs up to him.
the RF tried
Did his job, which was his job in any throw situation, not just a bunt.
Amidst all the fielding talk that bunt was pretty damn amazing and the run was on from second. Great calls by FL
As the game went on, my 10 yr old asked me who I thought was going to win. Told him I had no idea because both teams were playing solid baseball. I said "it appears that whoever wins will win because the other team will make a mistake".
The home plate umpire definitely helped the Florida team in the 6th inning. Made a bad hbp call. The batter clearly was standing over the plate and definitely did not try to get out of the way of the pitch, which should have been called a strike. Also he clearly made 2 other bad ball and strike calls, which helped the team as well. The home plate umpire clearly should not be behind the plate.
You’re a genius. 🙄
That’s like saying “there’s a 50/50 chance the coin lands on heads.”
Agree 100% with you. There is no reason whatsoever for the second baseman to be at second. I don’t blame the pitcher either. He had a split second to field the bunt and make the throw, expecting the 2nd baseman to be there.
When the bunt is made the catcher has to communicate with whoever's Fielding that ball. If the second baseman is not covering, he sees what's happening and must tell him to hold it.
@@overseaadventures4774damn the catcher has alot of responsibilities for playing a next to no credit position
@@johnsmith-zh1iv it is true. catcher is the only one looking forward. he has call throw to X. same with the secondary OFer who comes to the fielding OF, call the bag.
He’s a 11 yr old playing halfway around the world being criticized by a bunch of allegedly grown men .
fantastic text book bunt. the 1B, after he turned to look at 1B, immediately noticed the 2B was not covering. I am guessing the P could not get a clear look as he was directly behind the runner, but had less than a split second to decide to throw it or not. I have been in the 1B situation before (I am sure most have), you see the play, you are so hyped to make a play, but it goes out of your hands and then you see something and you know it can go south very quick and all you can do is watch the train wreck unfold in slow motion.
This is the textbook example of trying to do too much. And I'm not even mad at the pitcher. I've been there. You so desperately want to "make the play.". And in that moment you don't realize the correct play is to eat it and accept the other team just did a really good job. Feel bad for the 2b, congratulations to the Florida team. Well played
The runner was out of the Baseline the runner needed to go to the right where they called the Baseline box never did ,if there was a person covering first, the runner would have been automatically out, for interference,
@@user-bl6ne3hc6n Right. Little League University seems to have a good video on this (Rule 6.05(j)). The throw was not "catchable" because no one was there and that saved the batter from being called out.
@@raymond5815 yep, your right, the ump was on top of it, on another angle camera angle he was literally looking at the feet and following the runner it was a great no call, but again if I was that ump I would have hated to call that because it's so Bush League
DUMBBELL!!! The 1B POINTED to 1st SO THAT the pitcher WOULD THROW THERE!!! YOU…are BLIND!!!
I did exactly that 'throw to nowhere' in little league as the base coverage didn't cover in that situation.
TOTALLY NOT…the pitcher’s fault!!
I remember we tried to get the center fielder to sneak in to tag the runner on second. I was the pitcher. My throw was off and the ball went rolling into center field. We lost because of that play and that was the end of our season.
@@caolanhogeweide6555
That would bother me forever.
@@Tryp-j9d Do not throw unless you can see who you are throwing to
@@jamesbean7560 DAMN, you’re STUPID!!
Two things. I've coached Little League since I was in my 20s and I'm now in my 50s. If Taiwan was a team I coached, it would have been the 1st baseman that made the error. To keep things simple for 12 and under kids, we run the same play regardless of the situation. 3rd base, pitcher, and catcher (unless there is a play at home) crash on the ball. 1st base stays home, 2nd base goes to second, short stop covers third and all outfielders come in to back up any throw. On the rule for the batter running to first, it is a judgement call by the umpire (it should be automatic in my book, run in the runners lane on a bunt or dropped third strike or you are out). If in the judgment of the umpire the batter is in fair territory (or outside the 3 foot line) and interferes with the throw to first, the batter is out.
I was thinking the same thing in hindsight, and it was the first baseman who made the mistake when he saw the ball bunted towards him.
Its a tough play defensively because the shortstop is cheating over towards third (to cover) and so the second baseman has to cover 2nd to "hold the runer" but also must be ready to run to cover 1st. Sometimes a coach will tell the center fielder to sneak in and try a pickoff attempt at 2nd. Often the runner on second will have a massive leadoff because their really shouldn't be anyone covering the bag.
I agree with you, that is the standard defensive play for Little League, but if all that failed, it's the catcher's responsibility to scream at the Fielder to not throw the ball. Hold.
I think the second baseman was shading second from the get-go, but Ihere are no leadoffs in LL, correct?
@@thomasskernivitz4812: good point, no lead off the bag so no stealing bases allowed either? According to the video, The runner at 2nd held until contact.
This play is a heartbreaker, for Taipei, wonderful for Lake Mary, FL.
It also demonstrates why our basic bunt defense is for 1Bman stays at the bag, P (especially a right hander) covers 1B foul line area….2B still breaks toward 1B, but as a back-up.
Small thing - I'd have rf back that up and keep 2b at 2b with a remote possibility of a rundown between 2nd and 3rd. 2b wouldnt help on a ball thrown down 1b line. Couldnt get there.
THAT…is STUPID!!!! VERY easy to get the runner to 3rd…just BUNT to FIRST!!
@@Tryp-j9d to get the runner to third, you bunt to third. and similarly, to move the runner to 2nd by bunting to first.
@@DubCmusicTV It’s a MUCH TOUGHER play for a FIRST baseman to hit the shortstop with a throw to get the runner from 2nd!! If the THIRD baseman CHARGES (here) you BUNT TO FIRST!!!!
@@RexolaMazolathe RF did back up. The throw at the end of the video to home came from him.
The manager should have come out to mound and reminded the players what their roles were if he bunted. It's ironic because China/Taipei utilized the bunt to their advantage throughout the entire tournament but yet couldn't defend it. I watched most of the games, and it was an exciting tournament.
Exactly, that's what managers are for!
I just checked the rules. Runner starts at 2nd starting with 8th inning. Thus manager should have reminded players between half innings.
@@hughmccurdy3348Who's to say he didn't? These are kids. Managers and coaches remind of stuff all the time that kids immediately forget or misremember. It's probably safe to assume, that with a team that got this far and has been this well coached, that he did remind them and the players just made a mistake. That does happen, it's not even that uncommon
I can't understand why Chinese Taipei, didn't bunt when they had a chance at the beginning of the 8th innings. The first batter for Taipei never took the bat off his shoulder and struck out. Does anybody think the game was rigged? Bill from Tampa.
If you watched it manager Moo Goo Gai Pan did talk to the infield and he also pulled the outfield in to throw home on a base hit.
Thanks coach for actually posting it nobody has even talked about it
Jomboy media has
Fundamentals always prevail. Amazing bunt and bunt mechanics. It's a no brainer a well trained team would bunt the ball to the right side in this situation. The defensive team just absolutely blew this one.
1) It was a great bunt. Not a lot you can do outside point 2. 2) Yes, someone needs to cover 1b. 3) A *well trained team* bunts the ball to 3b in that situation.
@@RexolaMazola In any league above LL, I agree. In LL, it’s a no brainer to bunt to first.
Why is it a no brainer to bunt towards 1st? 3rd makes sense to me. I could even see looking to push one towards 2nd if you think 2nd is vacating early. But 1st I’m not understanding.
Sorry sir, but you are wrong about the base path. The runners path is the dirt, he does not have to run the line. He never left the dirt and crossed to the grass. The base runners path from home to first is the dirt, the path from first to second and to third is his path and finally the path from third to home is the path. The white line only indicates a fair ball in the field of play. The dirt from first to second and then to third is oval because a runner at full speed can not make a 90 degree turn. It was a great game for both teams, unfortunately someone had to loose.
Then why does the grounds crew bother to drop a chalk line to the right of the foul line, along the border of the dirt and the grass in foul territory, for most of the distance to first base?
it never mattered , but there were several key times when a walk creates a force-out situation . especially that last inning with the winning run starting at 2nd .
Great idea here. Little League gives the defense the ability to issue an intentional walk without throwing a pitch one time for each batter. With a tie score in the bottom of an extra inning, any runners behind the lead runner are meaningless, anyway. If the hitter could have been intentionally walked in this manner, the defense would have a force out on any base in the infield facing the next batter in the lineup. Plus, the runner on second wouldn't have had the opportunity to take third on a wild pitch/passed ball while the first batter was being walked.
Thats high IQ Little League coaching. I wouldn't expect my Little League coaches to know that.
@@caolanhogeweide6555 these all-star teams coached by the best local coaches - at least high school and probably former college players
50 years ago our all star team had 8 shortstops 2 catchers and 5 center fielders and everyone was a pitcher ;)
2nd baseman may have been covering 2nd base because the coach anticipated a play at third that could cause a run down between 2nd and 3rd. Maybe 1st baseman was supposed to cover first on this play but, because the bunt was hard down the line he panicked and decided to charge it.
In that case, the center fielder should be playing shallow to cover 2nd.
Good coverage on the defensive side of the ball but that bunt was absolutely perfect especially at that age and situation. Congratulations Florida team
Don't let this take away from the fact that Florida absolutely battled through the Elimination bracket, then took out the #1 team from the US Winners bracket and the # 1 team from the International bracket before winning the Championship. True Champions
Nobody is taking anything away from them.
@@briansaben5697seriously, I hate when people talk like that
@@briansaben5697
Pointing out that they won on an opponent's mistake is leaning that way though.
@@ddebenedictis It isn’t.
When you come from the losers bracket you should have to win two games against the team that hasn't lost only makes sense
Very good explanation as to what happened and how the defense should have been in a different position especially the second baseman
Congratulations to my hometown, 2024 Lake Mary Little League team! All of us back home were pulling for you guys. You all played hard, smart, and never gave up in the face of adversity. Teraj my hat is off to you, young sir, for your exceptional display of sportsmanship after the game as well. 💓
The pitcher blindly threw to first base without looking if the 2nd baseman was covering the 1st base bag. The 2nd baseman failed to go to 1st base to cover the bag.
the pitcher had time to look before throwing but
had a tall 1st baseman and the batter blocking his view
What astonished me was Tai Pei didn't attempt any bunting in their top of the 8th inning both announcers expected 1st and 2nd batters to bunt but none did!
With no one covering first the lead runner becomes the only concern. The pitcher could have held him at third or maybe even thrown him out. Too bad, but the Taipei kids did great to make the finals and I'm not going to criticize them too much.
Jesus Fucqing Christ man! They are just kids. They aren't paid to think. They aren't paid at all yet. They just do as they are coached.
I'm just glad they actually play until one team wins instead of giving everyone participation trophies and calling everyone winners.
They are not all winners. Kids have to get used to reality that they will lose most of the time in life.
Thanks for the analysis. My son was the one who bunted the ball. I’ll be sure to show him this video. Hunter’s dad!#10
@@markalexander9783 great bunt!
This was a great offensive play. The team was caught off guard. The bunt worked. The element of surprise had them all running in different directions.
Taipei was great up the middle all tournament and the hedging the ss and 2nd basemen had done all tournament gained them many highlights, seemingly robbing base hit after hit.
They were the perfect team to pull this play on.
My guess is that the USA coach was shocked that this amazingly disciplined team was caught in a panic situation. I sure was.
Extra inning, 0 outs, runner in scoring position... I am not sure I would ever try to get the out at 1B, focus on the lead runner. Last thing I would want around my neck is a runner at 3B, 1 out. Field the ball, check the runner, and hope that contains the damage. Throwing the ball to 1B is exactly what the offense is hoping you're gonna do.
Another possible rationale for the second baseman covering second is if the coach instructed him to, being that they had the wheel play on, since the throw should have gone to 3rd, maybe the second baseman could have been there incase the runner chose to retreat to 2nd and you can possibly get him in a rundown. That’s a possibility but most likely, the second baseman just got confused in the moment and forgot to cover 1st.
Great comment. Broke to second, wasn't positioned there.
Yes, center fielder should also play shallow to cover second so 2nd baseman knows someone will take the bag if he covers 1st.
That's why a bunt forces the defense to decide what they want to defend against. You can't cover everything if the bunt is good. Do you want to stop the guy in 2nd from advancing? Get the out at first?
If the guy at second advances but changes his mind and goes back you may have to just live with that. If he went far enough before turning around you also might have time for the CF (who's crashing in to back up) to provide a counterpart and also other infielders can reposition during all the running.
Smart baserunning by the batter-runner to not utilize the running lane in this scenario. It may have actually contributed to the throw to first.
A question, wpn... does the runner actually have the option to not use the lane? I thought usage of the lane was mandatory.
@@williamj.sheehan2001 a runner risks being called for interference if they don’t use the lane, but since there is no fielder near the base, this isn’t a concern
@@wpn Thanks, wpn!
Excellent break down!
6.05 - a batter is out when - (J) - in running the last half of the distance from home base to first base, while the ball is being fielded to first base, the batter-runner runs outside (to the right of the runner's lane, or inside (to the left of) the foul line, and in the umpire's judgment in so doing interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base; except that the batter-runner may run outside (to the right of) the runner's lane or inside (to the left of) the foul line to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball;
Note since no fielder a first base on this play can not have a runners lane violation. Umpires also must judge whether it is a quality throw.
Re: Batter/runner in the baseline: Unless it's changed very very recently, the ump is watching for the B/R to get in the grass before calling him "out of the baseline", collision there is in accordance with your normal obstruction/interference rules (fielder has to have the baseball or the runner owns the real estate).
Yeah, the second baseman thinks its his job to "hold the runner" on second while the shortstop goes to 3rd. Naturally, some young players are going to feel they can't leave a base empty. However, I'm not suprised since its Taiwan. A Japanese team or coach would have practicied this situation or at least told his players what to do.
Neat commentary, thank you.
That Taiwanese baseman has since been Traded to a South Korean Little League Team for a “Player to be Born Later”.
and you've been traded for a 20th century video game
Thai?
@@davidleong6606 You are Correct, I Should have typed "Soon to be Chinese" 2nd Baseman because China will Invade Taiwan in the very near future.
@@davidleong6606 Thai You?
unrelated but I'm curious about the 1st base umpire's positioning at 5:10. IF the 2nd baseman was hightailing it over to 1st, this doesn't look like an ideal position for him. obviously doesn't come into play here but was just curious.
Obviously the 2Bman had a brain fart. But the ultimate failure relies with the Taiwan manager... this was a bunt situation and Florida's best bunter was at the plate. At least he should of pulled his team together and got everyone on the same page and remind them of their assignments. It was obvious that the outcome to this game would hinge on a mistake, and Taiwan made it.... and Florida capitalized on it.
The ultimate failure falls on the pitcher who threw it into the outfield.
I agree, the manager should have talked to them before taking the field.
That was a great play call by the coaching staff of the Southeast team.
Yes, it was a mistake on the part of Taiwan.
However, there were at least two controversial which were earlier in the game.
One incident was where a Florida batter was over the plate by about four inches, where the umpire let the batter crowd the plate outside of the batter's box. The batter got hit with a ball and the umpire allowed the batter to go to first. Taiwan protested to no avail. In vidoe review it clearly showed the batter out of the box and over the plate. Under review, the play was allowed to stand.
There was another play where a Florida player got trapped between first and second. The Florida player ran to first base and got tagged out. The Florida played hit the first baseman so hard, after the tag, that the ball and glove came off of the Taiwan played and the umps called the Florida player safe and told him to go to third.
Taiwan, also, had a chance to win the game but the thrid baseman dropped the ball on an easy out.
Kids are taught at an early age on bunts 3rd & 1st go for the ball including the pitcher& catcher short covers 2nd and 2nd covers 1st.
What? If 3rd goes for the ball and short covers second then the lead runner can just walk to third.
I've never heard of any kids being coached to not even cover the base in front of the lead runner, ie to surrender the next base to the lead runner so easily.
You had some horrible coaches.
With runner on second, if 3rd is crashing, always SS is told to cover third in case a throw is made there.
Which third usually is crashing with a right handed pitcher.
The 2nd baseman should not be going to 2nd here as there's not going to be a play there. However, the pitcher's throw to 1st was high and wouldn't have been caught anyway. If the pitcher looks before he throws and realizes nobody is there, he should either hold the ball or run the at the runner coming from 3rd (depending on where the runner was). So the 2nd baseman went to the wrong bag, but the pitcher isn't blameless here. At the end of the day, they're 12, so tough to point the finger at anyone.
It probably went high in the instant that he realized nobody was covering first but too late to hold on to the ball
Sadly, this is a miscommunication on Chinese Taipei infielders. You are correct, the 2nd baseman "should" have covered 1st in this case, but it is 12u with good baseball knoweledge, but not MLB caliber from playing 100's of game situations like this. The rule that would affect the runner, in this case, would be 6.00j which states a runner is out if "in running the last half of the distance from home base to first base, while the ball is being fielded to first base, the batter-runner runs outside (to the left of) the runner's lane, or inside (to the left of) the foul line, and in the umpire's judgment in so doing interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base..."...Little League leaves some vague terms here so someone like Close Call sports would be able to interpret this better than I could, but I will assume the throw to first base was not interfered with as there was no one at first base? Could be a bad assumption on my part though.
No fielder, no potential for interference.
Correct. Little League uses the same rules as Major League and Minor Leagues. They all use the Official Baseball Rules, which as you state require the baserunner to interfere with the player taking the throw at first for it to be runner's lane interference. Under the OBR, for an umpire to call runner's lane interference, he must look first to see if the runner was in the runner's lane at any time. The runner is allowed to exit the lane on his last few strides, but to exit, he must have already been in the runner's lane. He then must judge that the throw was a quality throw that could have beat the runner. So if the throw goes way over the baseman's head, it is not interference. This is different from high school and college, which consider interfering with the throw to be interference.
@@rileychen6108 Yeah, that is my first thought to but did not want to jump to it. I have been wrong about rules before and after watching many of the videos from CC sports, I dont want to jump to a conclusion since I am no expert by any stretch. I can just here Lindsay saying "there not being a fielder there is irrelevant because the batter-runner interfered with the throw regardless of there being someone there to properly field the ball". Either way, so many good comments such as the coach reminding where the play is in that situation, the pitcher holding on and protecting the lead runner from scoring, etc...
@@donaldnoah9591 I seem to recall in one of the CCS videos that at one of the lower levels the rule was backwards from all the rest where it was interference on the fielder making the throw vs the OBR standard of interfering with the fielder receiving the throw. Don't recall if that was college, HS, or little league.
The main mistake on this play was the ball stayed fair and the first baseman was playing the ball to go foul. That’s why he wasn’t in the picture until it was too late. The first baseman’s reaction to the bunt threw the second baseman out of sorts so he stayed at second base which threw the pitcher out of sorts and reacted by picking up the ball and throwing it to first base where no was covering. The batter executed a perfect bunt down the first base line.
I could not believe that the 2nd baseman did not come over to cover 1st base on that bunt play! I felt so sorry for his coach because I am sure they practice that defense all the time.
I was shocked when Taipei didn't bunt the runner over at the top of the inning. That was the biggest mistake. I knew the bunt was coming as soon as Florida came up to bat. If the play had been correct, it would be 1 out and the runner at 3rd. I am glad Florida won, but I hate it that they did so on an error. It was a really good game until that play.
The second baseman would naturally move in the direction the ball was hit, toward first base, not much thinking required..
Looks like the right fielder WAS backing up the pitcher's throw, but, because of the fact that the runner was occupying the space to the left of the running lane, the pitcher launched the throw to the runner's right (so as not to hit him in the back), way over into foul territory, making it take a lot longer for the right fielder to chase it down and try to make a play at the plate. The runner was actually blocking the pitcher's view of first base. I wonder if that prevented the pitcher, in the heat of the moment, from realizing that nobody was covering first? Woulda... coulda... shoulda...
Mr. Antonelli, but if 3b crashed - he did, why would 1B also crash? You had a rhp whose momentum carried him to 1b, who in fact was quick enough to the ball to easily throw the batter out on that perfect bunt. So, I think both baselines are covered by 3b and P. Crashing 2 players doesnt buy you much, IMO and leaves an open 2b in the remote chance you get a 2b/3b rundown. On that particular bunt 2b would have had to get inside the 1b line to take the throw. Pretty hard to get there in time. And even so, with 2b (and SS to 3rd) moving it is a harder throw for 3b or P to make vs a fixed 1b. (of course 1b has to field a hard bunt - and in some cases would get beat to the bag with no 2b there. But usually the ball is bunted to 3b w/man on 2b. ***edit - BigTalk says they bunt to 1b in LL. I defer to him on that.)
I agree with the analysis, but there could be a play at second if the batter pops up the bunt and the runner at second breaks too early.
Love the small ball game!
Would love to be able to watch pre-Ruth dead ball era baseball. There's a reason the top plays of the day, week, month, season are rarely home runs or strikeouts.
You discussed RLI. Since there is no fielder there, that’s NOT the reason the play was incomplete. Therefore no RLI. In LL, a slash swing is legal. I have seen leagues try to outlaw it in their house rules, but the basic rule book does not have it. And in the LLWS tournaments, only the basic rule book applies. IMO the leagues need to teach the defense of that move because they will see it in tournaments.
Regardless it was a great game. Our team is expected to be home between 5:00 & 5:30 today. Can't wait to see them at the parade on Saturday!
0:03 Jomboy correctly referred to this team as 'Taiwan' ....
I dont' have the best comments, bc I feel like I am learning like a beginner, never having played or know how it is played. Thanks again for your series and breakdowns. Without, I would miss really all the important parts. TY PS: Jomboy coverage was a "bit different". IN a far longer piece, Jomboy said "Oh, their defense fails them". While true, your material is more insightful and useful to understand the game and why there exist "coaches". hehehe. Thanks again
Great explanation.
The runner is allowed to run inside the baseline. However, if he interferes with the throw or the first baseman receiving the throw, the runner can be called out
Did the batter point to centerfield before the pitch?
There is no possibility for runners lane interference on this play. By LL rules you must interfere with the fielder taking the throw, not the throw itself (the same as MLB rules in this case). Nobody covering first base, means runners lane interference is not possible. To answer the second question, the LL runners lane is still the foul line to the runners lane line. I don't think it would be possible to use the MLB rules for LL, considering the high number of dirt only infields at this level. If the second baseman was covering first, then we'd have a much more complicated situation on our hands and it would depend on if the throw was catchable or not. Note that this is different in the high school and college rule sets, which also include the throw itself.
The pitcher has no time to stop, look, and then throw. They'll never get the runner if he has to do that. That's why they practice that situation frequently with the second baseman covering first. In order to get the runner out at first, the pitcher has to assume that everyone is doing what they've practiced many times, and throw the ball to the bag. Any hesitation or delay and they'll never get him. The pitcher was just doing what he was programmed to do.
the pitcher had time to look before throwing but
had a tall 1st baseman and the batter blocking his view
I was thinking that as well the runner out of lane gets called out with interference and runner on 2nd has to go back. Would have been a complete turn around.
wouldn't runner on second be awarded any base that he would have reasonably attained in umpires view. 3rd most likely
LL rules mimics MLB rules in this case, rather than high school rules. The batter runner must interfere with the fielder taking the throw at first base. There is no fielder taking the throw at first base, so there is no runners lane interference possible.
The 2nd baseman was torn between covering his base bc he was thinking the bunter would make it to second. I think he just forgot
I changed it when you said "no one on, runner on 2nd"
If there was somebody covering first the runner would have been automatically out watch the video again he was out of the Baseline, it's a reviewable play,
Maybe 2nd baseman thought the play would be at third and decided to cover 2nd to keep the bunter from getting an infield double? I have no idea. Weird one. He could've thought the first baseman was going to stay at first and let the pitcher field it too. Not what should happen but it could be what he thought since the first baseman was slow to go after it.
I believe one of the coaches went out immediately to embrace the sobbing 2nd basemen. Thought that was a sweet touch for him to do that.
Even if the 2nd baseman was there, he's not catching that air mail
Now the second baseman will wake up in the middle of the night screaming, when he is 60 years old, think he lost the World Series, but it was a really good bunt.
Mechanics and fundamentals, nothing more. Both teams deserved to win. I think this falls on the manager and not on the kids. Two great teams and a shame someone had to lose. I love the LLWS and the friendship and joy the eight teams show towards each other.
I don't know about Little League, but at other levels... the pitcher might just toss the ball into the batter's back and try to get obstruction and a dead ball. but i guess there has to be someone covering the bag as well.
I didn't read all the comments, but I see no mention about the throw to the invisible man on first.
The batter also almost ran into the ball. It looks like it missed by less than a foot. That would have been bad news for Florida.
To answer your question LL still has the traditional running lane. Potential for a violation if second baseman covers.
Can you break down Jon Singleton’s blunder at 1st base between the Houston Astros and Baltimore Orioles?
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In the end the second baseman not covering probably didn't matter. That throw was going into the outfield whether or not the second baseman is there.
plus a lot of those kids are really good at faking bunts.
That bunt was so perfect, I don't think they are getting anyone out there even if everyone was in the right position. Obviously we will never know the answer to that, just like we will never know the answer to what type of bunt defense Chinese Taipei was running there (so I'm not sure why people continue to argue about who was "at fault" - clearly something went wrong as a team and it cost them). Was there a chance of an interference call if someone was covering first base? I guess so, but imagine the backlash if the umpire actually made that call in that spot. I think their best chance there (slim as it would have been with the top of the order coming up) would have been to eat that ball, walk the next hitter to try to set up the force at home and then potentially a double play.
Great bunt!
1B should have collided with batter/runner. Automatic out and runner resets. Can't let the batter cheat to the inside to mess with the throw, that's dirty. Fielder running into the runner is the less dirty play. How many LL coaches teach this? Probably not enough, I didn't.
If 2B had covered 1st, P should have thrown the ball into the batter/runner’s back. Not the most sporting play, but the batter/runner was clearly inside the runner’s lane. It would have been interference, with the batter/runner out and R2 would have had to return to 2d. Alas, no one was there.
It's called an error! Are we now softening the language?
The only way there would have been a throw to second on that play is if the ball was bunted into the air. In any case, the catcher should have yelled "eat it!" to the pitcher.
when I was 11 playing LL Majors, we always worked on this coverage in infield practice... back then, (1970s) bunting was a much bigger part of the game...seems like they didn't practice this...and I thought the Taipei teams were always the most disciplined, best -coached...?
Or they are 12 year olds and 12 year olds do goofy things
@@jarrod1766 that's pretty much what I was thinking
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Why you say no one on??? Then 1 second later say we have a runner on second base
Yes, if someone had been covering 1st base we could have possible had runner's lane interference.
I think he would have been out for running inside the baseline. I believe I have already seen another kid get called out for doing that in an earlier game. But my opinion as far as the second baseman going to second is this. Chinese Taipei is really aggressive at getting the lead runners. I think he went to second thinking they were going to throw to third and get that runner in a pickle between Third and second. Because if the throw was to third, there would have been no reason for the second baseman to go to first at all. They were thinking a bunt, the throw was to third all the way.
You need to see the “nobody there” and turn around and stop that runner coming in from third. Shocking mistake from such a disciplined team.
Had the pitcher held the ball, turned and tried for a play at home, it would have looked better but ended the same. The lack of coverage cost them.
I wonder how many of the kids I coached saw this and finally realized why I made them practice bunting every practice.
No, we’re not going to try to get this batter out at second because there’s nobody on base! Wow.
I'm curious. It's my understanding that Florida lost a gane to Texas earlier in the tournament, and Texas cand in undefeated. IF that is true (not saying it is), why is Texas eliminated after 1st loss, but Florida (or any other team)
is not? If my info is wrong, okay. If not, then something is unjust about the way thd system works. Any reasonable response is appreciated.
The second baseman should feel bad...check the replay...the runner beat the throw anyway
Lets give the hitter some credit for getting a bunt down on a pitch up in the strike zone. Ideally the pitcher should put it up and in or ev en up and away. He was lucky that tbhe hitter was bunting ir that pitch would've been absolutely crushed.
The comment I have is not about today’s game but yesterday‘s game. I’m not sure when the rule changed, maybe somebody can tell me, but when did it become OK that on a missed or dropped third strike that the runner got to run to first base, if the base was open or if there was two out. I am currently 67 years old so the last time I played little league would’ve been 55 years ago, but I have watched games every now and then over the years and did not realize you can advance on a third strike AND I saw players taking a lead off the base. When did that happen? Before you had to stay on the base until the pitch crossed home plate.
Jesus people. Some of you are insane. Remember these kids are like 12 years old ( I think) and they're going to make mistakes.
I'm trying to figure out what the pitcher was thinking here, throwing it to no one. The only thing I can come up with is that as he turns to throw, maybe he saw the 1B ump out of the corner of his eye and thought it was the second baseman running over to cover first, so he threw it where he thought the second baseman would be by the time the ball got to first base. I don't know. Strange play.
Pitcher didn't check on a bunt play the second baseman should be there so he just threw.
the pitcher had time to look before throwing but
had a tall 1st baseman plus the batter blocking his view
I think 2nd baseman Learned something Yesterday !!!