Are the GENEALOGIES in the Bible Really As BORING As They Look? | Genesis 4 and 5 | Bible Study
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- GENEALOGIES are often considered to be not just the LEAST IMPORTANT but also the most BORING parts of the Bible. Definitely not fascinating. And apparently not super important either. But is that assessment ACTUALLY TRUE? Let’s take a look - on this episode of Masterpiece!
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The genealogies in the Bible are not just beautiful and fascinating works of art - they also play a really crucial role in this book, because they’re an indication of life and new beginnings in the midst of a fallen world and because they give hope that the promised savior will indeed come. In fact, the theme of salvation is always present in the genealogies and one of the ways to see this is to once again focus on the intentional design of the text.
Let's take a look at the first two genealogies in the Bible in Gen 4 and 5. At first glance you might think that the genealogy in chapter 4 begins after that story in verse 17 but actually it already starts in verse 1 with the birth of Cain. So the story of Cain and Abel in the first half of the chapter is actually part of the genealogy - in the sense that it gives us more information about the first descendant of Adam, which is Cain.
The first genealogy continues in verse 17 with the birth of Cain’s son Enoch and again there is a brief narrative about Cain, then we have three more descendants and then we get to Lamech who is the seventh person from Adam and here we again have an expansion where we learn more about this man: for example, that he has not just one, but two wives, that he has three sons and that like Cain he is a murderer. But he seems to be even worse than Cain because he apparently killed multiple people and he also openly brags about it. In other words, the genealogy climaxes with a character who very clearly demonstrates what Cain’s attitude will ultimately lead to.
The genealogy stops at this point, but the narrative does not. It continues in verse 25 where we read about Eve giving birth once more and the interesting thing about this is that the way this is reported is almost identical to the beginning of the chapter, but this time, instead of focusing on what SHE has achieved, Eve talks about what GOD has provided. So at the end of a chapter that is characterized by human achievement and autonomy from God which leads to violence and death there is hope of new life because of the seed which God provides.
This hope continues in the second genealogy in chapter 5 where we have a pretty regular pattern: A certain individual lived a certain number of years and fathered another individual. After he had fathered this person, the individual lived a certain number of years and fathered sons and daughters. And all the days of this individual were this many years and he died. So that’s the pattern, but here also there are deviations: everywhere else in this chapter it says that an individual lives after they father a son. But in the case of Enoch’s, the seventh from Adam, it says: he walked with God. Also: Everyone else dies, but Enoch is taken by God. Which again gives hope that death will not have the last word. So we have two genealogies right next to each other and both highlight the seventh individual who appears to stand representative for the two lines.
Interestently, there is another deviation in verses 28-29, where we again have a man named Lamech. So toward the end of both genealogies there’s a Lamech and both of them speak. The first Lamech speaks about retaliation, the second speaks of comfort. The first Lamech celebrates sin, the second longs for relief from the consequences of the fall. And he associates that relief with his son Noah whose name means rest and who has three sons like the Lamech in the first genealogy. Lamech brings violence and death to others, but Noah saves others from death in the waters of the flood. Which reminds us of another savior, the ultimate savior, the ultimate comforter who is able to rescue us from a world of sin and evil and bring us safely to a world made new, just like Noah. And the amazing thing is: that savior is not just the climax of all the genealogies of the Old Testament, he’s also the second Adam which means, he’s the first of the genealogy of the redeemed and we can be a part of that genealogy through the new birth Jesus is offering us.
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Have you ever looked into the allegorical meanings of the names of the folks in the Bible as put forth by Dr. Chuck Missler?
Thank you , love the way you teach the Bible .God bless you !!
Praise to God...
Excellent... my beloved Brother in Christ...
Excellent video, esp diff to understand genealogists right after the Fall! Thank you so much!
You're very welcome, glad it was helpful! :)
excellent teaching
Wow, those patterns are amazing! Thank you so much for sharing these insights with us. 🙏🏻 😊
You're welcome! Too good not to share. :)
I love the simplicity in your explanation.
I appreciate your feedback!
Thanks great articulation to God be the glory 🙏 ✝️🤝🫂
Amazing also the dividing of the earth in Genesis 10:25 and 1 Chronicles 1:19! In my opinion this talks about continental divide, not dividing of nations!
Love it!! 😀🎉
So so good 👍
Pretty straight forward presentation, but you didn't mention anything about the ages of each ancestor featured in the genealogy. So, how do you account for their exceptionally long life spans?
Thanks for your question and sorry for not getting back to you sooner. These were the first few generations after Adam and Eve who were created perfectly and designed to live forever. Of course sin changed that, but degeneration seems to have set in only gradually. We also do not know what effect the flood had on life on earth, but the fact that the ages decreased significantly afterwards suggests some kind of connection.
In Matthew there is a genealogy of Jesus, in Luke too but is different. This puzzled me since before my baptism. My teaching pastor told me, this must be the mother's side and the father's side. I guess he was right. From Abraham to David, both genealogies agree. But they differ from Solomon to Jacob (Mt) vs. from Nathan to Heli (Lk). But the formulation is different: Lk "Jesus ... being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, the son of Heli." While in Mt. "... Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus..." So Matthew is sure the father of Joseph was Jacob. While Luke begins the genealogy with a "as was supposed". Luke is indirect witness, he says clearly he writes from understanding / an orderly account. Matthew is is first hand witness, knew also Mary, and was 3,5 y hearing at Jesus. The topic of his birth must have come in these discussions. So yes: The father of Joseph was Jacob, while Heli must have been the father of Mary. Of course the fancy Joachim from the popery imagination.
From what I remember on this is Matt is for the Jews so this genealogy emphasized Jesus' Jewishness through the male blood line. Where as Luke was written to the non-Jews/Gentiles/Greeks so emphasizes Jesus' divinity by not mentioning Joseph, meaning God was Jesus Father, emphasizing his divine birth.
Hi! Do you think the meaning of the names from Adam to Noah, when connected together, form a story of what the Messiah would be?
Good question! I do believe that everything in the Bible is significant, including the names and their meanings (have a video coming up on that very topic). I also believe that every text in the Bible is ultimately about Jesus and the plan of salvation (see this video: ua-cam.com/video/uRIq_tl9ceg/v-deo.html). So I don't want to rule out the possibility that the names might be conveying that message, in particular because Enoch is indeed a type for Christ (the one who walked with God and was taken) and appears right between Jared (whose name is related to the idea of coming down) and Methushelach (whose name includes the idea of death). One of the challenges I see is that, as far as I can tell, not all of the meanings of the names in Gen 5 are entirely clear, making it difficult to make any absolute claims about this. But it does remain intruiging.
I pretty sure the genealogies describe dynasties rather than generations. I find it hard to believe, as important as procreation was in the book, that men waited hundreds of years to "beget" their first child. But dynasties can last hundreds of years with names being passed down. The Hebrew people didn't even have last names until the time of the Holocaust. They were names like "Isaac son of Abraham".
Any Bible translated from.Msoretuc Bible is missing generations, they added and removed verses and they put vowels which changed the meaning of some words. The Septuagint is the version used by JEsus and early church.
*_PATTERNS!_* One of the tools used in *_The Bible's Hidden Wisdom: God's Reason for Noah's Flood._*
Patterns, differences, outpoints, things left out, apparent contradictions, and more can guide us to asking the potent questions which reveal a deeper understanding.
Notice, for instance, the similarity between the names in Genesis 4 and 5. Not only that, notice the patterns of sequence. The crisscross in the middle triggered in Rod Martin, author of *_The Bible's Hidden Wisdom,_* the realization that he might be looking at the *_Tree of Life_* matrix provided to us by the Spiritual Scientists of Judaism -- the Kabbalists. And before you dismiss this, realize that their claim to have written the Pentateuch is affirmed by the existence of their Tree of Life in two chapters of Genesis.
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Aaaaaah let us think about this.
Genealogies
The torah was written between the 7th and 3rd centuries BCE By a people who were shepherds 600 years prior.
And they know who existed thousands of years ago
I can't name my great grandfather.
How do you know the Torah was written between the 7th and 3rd centuries BCE?
@@BigJFindAWay read it and a history book.
I will give you a hint.
When did the Children's and Meades conquer the Assyrians and take control of Ur
so...... a "savior" rescues his people THROUGH God's wrath
iiiiiinteresting
because I've had people tell me that God's people are not "appointed to wrath" and they get RAPTURED away from wrath!!
hmmmmmmmmm!
again... iiiiiiinteresting
Jesus is the second *_Adam,_* and he is the *_"Last Adam._* Jesus is both the First and the Last, the Alpha and the Omega.
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Satan a her??
Not sure what you mean. I don't think I mention Satan in this episode.
Sorry,
I spoke too soon and miss heard you in the video!
Thank you for all your serving in there videos,
To God be the glory 🙏 🙌