Pregnant Mare tries to Bite and Kick when you get Close!

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  • @ryanrosehorsemanship
    @ryanrosehorsemanship  2 місяці тому +24

    Thanks for watching! If you would like to see more detailed training videos and ask me questions about your horse, consider joining my Patreon page. www.patreon.com/ryanrosehorsemanship

    • @Fireworks_are_Awesome
      @Fireworks_are_Awesome 2 місяці тому +3

      The word respect is exactly what it is. And it applies to horses. You use it correctly sir. Well done.

    • @racheldelage5690
      @racheldelage5690 2 місяці тому +2

      Beautiful horse! I hope she gets trained! 🙏😘🇺🇲

    • @vallriesweeney3987
      @vallriesweeney3987 2 місяці тому

      Instead of respect I think that you are developing a focus.
      Focus from a horse is eyes and ears attention. You have to get their focus to work on the horse's tolerance especially horses that have not been handled.
      They often do not want to look at you. They do not like human touch.
      To an unhandled horse the thought of being petted by a human seems ridiculous.

    • @kollegekarol
      @kollegekarol 2 місяці тому

      Another word other than respect could be revere

    • @cityonthemake4115
      @cityonthemake4115 2 місяці тому

      My suggestion:
      deference
      (noun)
      deferential (adjective)

  • @slunt3123
    @slunt3123 2 місяці тому +38

    This mare’s life depends on cooperating with humans. If her defensive attitude was left untreated, she was headed for a sad ending. So glad to see her attitude addressed with techniques that enhanced her understanding and cooperation rather than forcing her into submission.

  • @beckyshewchuk
    @beckyshewchuk 2 місяці тому +39

    Thank you Ryan for your help with Riata. She is doing great and getting softer and more willing every day.
    Thank you so much!❤

    • @UnrealKinniki
      @UnrealKinniki 2 місяці тому +1

      She is gorgeous!! She's gonna be such a great partner someday ❤

    • @user-op1ee7px1b
      @user-op1ee7px1b 19 днів тому +1

      Thank you for rescuing this beautiful horse! She’s so lucky to have you and getting such good care and support

  • @swimmingbird243
    @swimmingbird243 2 місяці тому +55

    I just wanted to say that you, steve young horsemanship, and Warwick are all incredible trainers.

    • @WouldbeRenaissanceLady6926
      @WouldbeRenaissanceLady6926 2 місяці тому +2

      Yes, I love watching folk that love, understand and appreciate horses,❤❤❤

    • @robynmartin2026
      @robynmartin2026 2 місяці тому +1

      my three go to's!

    • @spfisterer3651
      @spfisterer3651 2 місяці тому +5

      So true.. Add clever cowgirl to the mix and you pretty much got all I watch on yt.

    • @Inish
      @Inish 2 місяці тому +2

      And definitely Nate Eicher (eicher ranch on YT), he is awesome to watch

    • @beckygossett4697
      @beckygossett4697 2 місяці тому +5

      And Jake of Pear Tree ranch. What he accomplished with Remy is amazing.

  • @lizpetruzzi7700
    @lizpetruzzi7700 2 місяці тому +39

    “Getting the horse to respect you” = communicating hierarchy

    • @HorseLady1109
      @HorseLady1109 2 місяці тому +1

      Indeed!

    • @charlief709
      @charlief709 2 місяці тому +3

      Horses in the wild absolutely have a hierarchy. Hierarchy is so important In training a horse like this.

  • @valeriehudson7276
    @valeriehudson7276 2 місяці тому +14

    Thanks again for breaking it down! Horse approaching has more than just friendly intent. Extremely important to know WHAT the behavior means. Thanks Ryan

  • @margaretfleming3554
    @margaretfleming3554 2 місяці тому +9

    Thank you to you Ryan and the shelter for saving this glorious mare.

  • @janeenrose8097
    @janeenrose8097 2 місяці тому +15

    Hi Ryan. All of us watching you know what a great teacher/trainer you are, but I want to acknowledge how amazing Becky is to do what she does for horses that would have no hope in this world. Thank you both!❤

  • @leeevers8976
    @leeevers8976 2 місяці тому +18

    Beautiful horse, beautiful rescuer.

  • @lazygardens
    @lazygardens 2 місяці тому +11

    Horses: the original "mean girls" claiming the cafeteria tables

  • @JanaRussellNails
    @JanaRussellNails 2 місяці тому +10

    Excellent reminders for all of us who work with feral and or unpredictable horses. Thank you Ryan, and thank you Becky for your awesome work and love for these horses!

  • @nessie43
    @nessie43 2 місяці тому +13

    I just love to watch this. How you start a dialogue with that horse, how she starts to try to understand you, and how she at some point says "i dont trust you fully yet but i'm trying" it seems almost magic, but its so subtle you need to watch closely to see everything that is happening.

  • @jeniferrinehart1107
    @jeniferrinehart1107 2 місяці тому +9

    Beautiful mare. So glad you could come help her! ❤❤❤

  • @Ddax-td7qy
    @Ddax-td7qy 2 місяці тому +8

    My favorite of your Tubes I've seen so far. Thanks! It's fun to see her do so much puzzling and thinking. Your commentary on what you are seeing is great, including such careful calibration of your responses. Respect!

  • @Sandra-gd8iz
    @Sandra-gd8iz 2 місяці тому +20

    Herd hierarchy is a real thing with any herd or pack animal. Sad that humans somehow see these words as negative, as you mentioned. Much more humane, when working with the animal, to acknowledge their way of communicating to achieve herd/pack peace and safety than forcing a human concept onto the animal. Love the suggestion of throwing feed to a group of animals and see what happens!! Love it! Humans need to understand all the “talking” going on between the animals as they jostle for who gets which place to eat. 🎉

    • @tracyjohnson5023
      @tracyjohnson5023 Місяць тому

      Exactly! It amazes me that so many horse people don't have a clue about herd hierarchy in general, let alone about pecking order in their own herd/horse.
      Putting feed/hay out is best way to find out who's who, including where you fit in. He who moves his feet first to get out of way is the loser. Kinda the horsey version of chicken.

  • @ridgehilljillie9429
    @ridgehilljillie9429 2 місяці тому +10

    I really Like this horse, smart and attentive.

  • @saspinks3001
    @saspinks3001 Місяць тому +2

    Love your calm demeanor. Being unemotional helps the learning process. Thank you for helping Becky help horses!

  • @marilynbridges8697
    @marilynbridges8697 2 місяці тому +12

    I definitely like the "appropriate response to pressure" definition.

  • @user-op1ee7px1b
    @user-op1ee7px1b 19 днів тому +1

    Beautiful horse! The education on this channel is outstanding. Subscribed

  • @KathyHecht-bm3xk
    @KathyHecht-bm3xk 2 місяці тому +28

    Respect is not a bad word because if you use it correctly it goes both ways it mutual respect and that also how to keep you both safe.

  • @manjariprakash9099
    @manjariprakash9099 2 місяці тому +3

    Beautiful horse. Lucky lady and now you have RR.

  • @klarakubler9763
    @klarakubler9763 2 місяці тому +5

    That was really cool, as it was kind of complicated to understand what her intension is. Great work!

  • @1legged_moto_girlkolleen382
    @1legged_moto_girlkolleen382 2 місяці тому +6

    Patreon is great 👍 All horse people should strive to be as gentle as RR ❤ Thanks 🙏
    I have a reservation horse that I've been working with for two years now and she is also very dominant and came to me bred. She's a very forward horse, but now that she understands people mean good things, she is super in your pocket. Still working on her 100% trusting my leadership. I really wish I could find a trainer like Ryan closer to me to help me out.

  • @noahman27
    @noahman27 Місяць тому

    Great teaching here!! Thank you so much and thank you for all the love you give to the horses in all these wise ways!! And it helps the rest of us too. You're the best.

  • @janiene-gq4mg
    @janiene-gq4mg 2 місяці тому +6

    She is beautiful. ❤
    Great survivor as Heidi Bujak said. I was thinking she would probably be more vigilant and defensive being pregant.
    Awesome job teaching us to read a horse as usual Ryan.

  • @annab4796
    @annab4796 2 місяці тому +15

    Thank you for this training experience, Ryan.
    It's unfortunate that many of your commentors have devoted more time to "educating" other commentors than thanking you or offer intelligent insights about this training session.
    I rarely comment on your videos, and reading many of these comments has all but convinced me to send you my observations privately to avoid the scorn of some of your other viewers, lest they disagree with me.
    Suffice it to say that I am glad to learn from you and put into practice some of the training techniques you have taught on your channel with my mare. :)

    • @pennilynnmcnew443
      @pennilynnmcnew443 2 місяці тому

      @@annab4796 I totally agree with you. I have raised a couple of young horses as well as work with rescues and some untamed horses from Corolla Islands in North Carolina. I have watched and tried a variety of different kinds of trainings as I learned myself growing up with occult that I saved from a kill buyer. He and I knew each other and grew up together but then when I stepped into rescuing, fostering, helping to rehabilitating horses it became a whole different ball game.

    • @donnasmith9939
      @donnasmith9939 2 місяці тому +1

      Well said!

  • @valeriemoran842
    @valeriemoran842 2 місяці тому +1

    Excellent video! Her cues were there, just subtle. Thank you!

  • @lindalape8493
    @lindalape8493 2 місяці тому +2

    The like button won't allow me to use it. I love Ryan's videos! He's extremely good with horses!

  • @archivist_of_dragonstone
    @archivist_of_dragonstone 2 місяці тому +3

    Stunning horse, color for days! I love her four white hooves

  • @annmarieschantz9724
    @annmarieschantz9724 2 місяці тому +4

    What a beautiful horse!!

  • @Ddax-td7qy
    @Ddax-td7qy 2 місяці тому +8

    The old saying is : "pecking order." The "boss mare" only needs to cock an ear for the underdogs to get out of the way. One of the most dangerous situations I ever had to intervene in, was at a breeding farm where humans unknowingly casually unloaded a second boss mare into a corral with other boss. With young foals. Those two ladies went to war, and things were pretty exciting for a bit. No harm done, but drama for sure. Wild one doesn't know she can't be boss of the human.

  • @jacquitomaszewski7368
    @jacquitomaszewski7368 Місяць тому +1

    Respect and trust and patience. But love her too❤
    Thank you for what you do😊

  • @angeloddrev
    @angeloddrev 2 місяці тому +6

    What a beautiful mare, wow she's stunning! I love her she's got spirit ♥It's worse when they've been treated very badly and come shut down imo. She's lovely. I bet her foal will be adorable!

  • @randybutler4772
    @randybutler4772 2 місяці тому +1

    She is a beauty. Best of luck with her. Thank you for sharing.🐴

  • @lindalape8493
    @lindalape8493 2 місяці тому +1

    She's a beauty! I hope you are able to gain her trust and give her a great life.

  • @loriswayne577
    @loriswayne577 2 місяці тому +7

    She's gorgeous 😍

  • @briangilman1937
    @briangilman1937 2 місяці тому +2

    That is a gorgeous horse

  • @atsavvy6.0
    @atsavvy6.0 2 місяці тому +2

    RESPECT , we do not have enough in the world ! RESPECT, is a great word !😊😊

  • @taildraggerstables6432
    @taildraggerstables6432 2 місяці тому +3

    Getting horse to understand expectations instead of respect

  • @audreygregis8721
    @audreygregis8721 2 місяці тому +1

    Humans have to understand a horse is not a dog. They understand hierarchy....and then we can be friends, when I understand where my place is in the herd. But, what a LOVELY mare!

  • @maryjanson7223
    @maryjanson7223 Місяць тому +2

    Thank you Ryan for intervening and helping this beautiful mare 🤗

  • @elenacaddell3639
    @elenacaddell3639 16 днів тому

    IT IS Respect . Horses YES ! They Need to know our boundaries. What they can and can’t do that’s acceptable or not Living and working around us. Loving Kindness. Patience. Wins Every time . ( always give-and-take.)😍

  • @Pamelakaygorman
    @Pamelakaygorman 2 місяці тому +2

    It all boils down to a level of horsemanship to be able to knowledgeable and correctly reading the horse

  • @michellegrovak
    @michellegrovak 2 місяці тому +1

    What a lovely mare!

  • @myaccount2825
    @myaccount2825 2 місяці тому

    Ryan, you do such an awesome job! One thing my kids and I know is “whoever moves their feet away first loses.” I see her moving out of the horse’s way every time the horse comes toward her. Horse is the “herd leader”.

  • @likaangel8302
    @likaangel8302 2 місяці тому +3

    Great job, Ryan 👏

  • @heidibujak5368
    @heidibujak5368 2 місяці тому +7

    Great job. She is a survivor and her life comes first. The human is second.

  • @kidstuff44555
    @kidstuff44555 2 місяці тому +6

    If wild mares didn't have this instinct to "fight" (come towards you and tell you to leave), then their foals wouldn't survive in the wild. They need to keep not only predators away from their foals, but other horses as well. Its very normal horse herd behaviour, and doesn't indicate anything negative or unusual about this mare, as all wild mares who have given birth will be like this when their foals are young, to some degree

  • @aliciaohara8794
    @aliciaohara8794 Місяць тому

    I can't wait to follow along on her journey at Windy Hill Equine Rescue!❤

  • @adhc8560
    @adhc8560 2 місяці тому +1

    Who knows what that poor girl has gone through. She's a beauty, bright and curious, and I hope she can learn she's safe now and doesn't need to defend herself anymore.

  • @gnp4360
    @gnp4360 2 місяці тому +4

    Warwick refers to building emotional regulation, thinking vs reacting.

  • @nogames8982
    @nogames8982 2 місяці тому +1

    This horse is absolutely gorgeous. And that’s gonna be her problem. Some Karen is going to want her because she’s pretty. But this horse takes somebody that knows what they are doing. And most people don’t. I hope this horse gets to be with somebody that knows what they’re doing so she can have a happy life.

  • @metalkingtohorses
    @metalkingtohorses Місяць тому +1

    i thought there was a UFO in the sky, it was my curser hahaha

  • @zombieboy5665
    @zombieboy5665 Місяць тому

    Beautiful horse

  • @TiffanySmith-x1f
    @TiffanySmith-x1f Місяць тому +1

    I got two horses❤❤❤❤❤I love them both so much and they are so sweet my horse is so good and I do not have horse lessons but I take them at my home but my other one who took my horse lessons went to work but now I am getting I new horse lessoner to help me with my horse and I have other horse but he doesn’t take horse lessons and I fell off my horse yesterday when I was trying to 🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🏇🏇🏇🏇🏇🏇🏇🏇🏇🐴🐴

  • @linas7266
    @linas7266 Місяць тому

    Howdy Rian, instead of the word respect, I'd say to have space, that is because it is a matter of territory. Thank you for this video !

  • @JessicaStinson-og1rq
    @JessicaStinson-og1rq 2 місяці тому +2

    I’m glad I decided to watch this. We have a pony that is three years old we rescued it. Actually we adopted it from a rescue when the people delivered them she had a halter on and she seem pretty friendly but about an hour later I went in to take her halter off And I should’ve known something was wrong, because when I asked the man who delivered the horses that day to help me take their halters off, he said oh no, it’s OK to leave them on. Anyhow, when I went in to take her halter off she tried to kill me, and now, nine months later, I can groom her I can brush her I can lift her feet to clean them I can come out her main and or tail touch her ears anything I want to, but the minute she sees a halter. She starts running and kicking and will turn her but to me I am afraid something horrible must’ve happened to her when they put the halter on her when she was young, I am patient kind. I don’t yell and scream or even act upset and yet if I have a halter in my hand, that’s how she behaves, and she starts it as soon as she sees the halter.

  • @bonniemott9119
    @bonniemott9119 Місяць тому

    Thank you so much for the video really enjoyed it v

  • @Supreme-Emperor-Mittens
    @Supreme-Emperor-Mittens 2 місяці тому +3

    No More Cookies For You...
    until you learn respect - and be a good girl 🐴🐎

  • @nobouncenotrot8107
    @nobouncenotrot8107 Місяць тому +2

    The number of people offended by the word "respect" on here is hilarious. What a bunch of snowflakes!

  • @DennisSmithGrandCayman
    @DennisSmithGrandCayman 2 місяці тому

    We bought rough broke wild horses from the Indians in the mountains of Alberta when I was 11 years old. (65 years ago) . It’s safe to say that my broken ribs, punctured lung, near amputation of both frozen feet and a history of sneak attacks (bites, tree branch assaults etc) were all horse related. Moved to the Cayman Islands when I was 19. Got hired to manage a large dairy farm. Apparently they couldn’t find anyone that wasn’t afraid of cattle. Caymanians used a long pole with a noose on the end. The noose to capture and the pole to keep it from coming too close. Went on to other dangerous activities, underwater blackouts, the bends and the discovery of Black Coral at 210 ft on a solo dive. All seemed mild compared to being bit in the ass by a rough broke horse.

  • @equinebrdr1
    @equinebrdr1 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice job Ryan

  • @JenniMiller-p1q
    @JenniMiller-p1q Місяць тому

    I'm in the UK. I lost the TWH Dam last year to my 16 year old mare and 13 year old gelding. I have an aging PB Arab as well who is boss, but the dam was very attached to the gelding and she used to keep her daughter in order. Since I lost her I've recently realised that the daughter thinks she's moved up the pecking order including myself! She's been very dominant kicking, biting, ears back and presenting her butt as a threat to kick. I think I'm getting a handle on it and she is slowly giving in with daily training.

  • @metalkingtohorses
    @metalkingtohorses Місяць тому

    LOVES THIS METHOD

  • @amanda7263
    @amanda7263 2 місяці тому

    Omg, this horse looks sooo similar to my own paint mare. My paint has a bit more white patches on the body and darker slightly less even eye patches. Mine kind of looks like she has a ‘pirate’ eye patch pattern on her face - with the other eye patch almost identical to this horse. I wish I could post a pic for comparison!

  • @shel.b.1090
    @shel.b.1090 2 місяці тому

    Looking forward to the next one xxx

  • @dawnbrooks7050
    @dawnbrooks7050 Місяць тому

    Gosh Dang, She's Beautiful!!!❤❤❤

  • @misschieflolz1301
    @misschieflolz1301 2 місяці тому

    9:25 - There was a livery horse at the yard I frequented that had this kind of problem. Only issue was he wasn't a small little thing like this mare, he was a gigantic 18hh warmblood (I knew his owner who was like 6'5", so the tall horse made sense).
    He wasn't so bad at first, but this horse was naturally quite pushy and dominant within a herd.... and that translated to people too. Unfortunately his owner just thought the ears being pinned and occasional nips at himself were 'quirky'. I told him otherwise but I wasn't a paid member of staff. Same horse bit two people and sent both to hospital, one with a fractured collarbone and the other with a cracked rib.
    This 'little' shit had learned not to pin his ears to land a bite or kick, and he was big. Really big. They had to install a top door for his stable because he couldn't be trusted not to snatch at people walking through the barn. I think I lucked out with him because I'm short and I've been around .... well at the time mostly ponies that would give me this kind of behaviour. I'd volunteered to muck him out because the guys that did do those tasks refused to go in with him. Within the first couple of minutes he attempted a bite and swinging his hindquaters at me.
    I just kinda stood my ground and used a shovel to block him and get him to move instead of yeilding. It was like he'd never had to yeild to a person before and his attitude changed after that one instance where I mucked him out. Sadly it only applied to me, his behaviour towards his owner and others got out of hand and he was sold on to someone with more time and knowledge.
    And this was from a horse that was young but professionally broken to ride.

  • @briandavis8977
    @briandavis8977 20 днів тому

    Great work getting the horse to accept your authority.

  • @justjan147
    @justjan147 2 місяці тому

    I like and understand when you talk about getting the horse to respect you, it's all about building a good rapport. Maybe that word would be better received, rapport?
    Love the videos! ❤

  • @janethouse1779
    @janethouse1779 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video! What a beautiful mare. Wouldn't it be interesting to test her DNA and see what breeds she came from?

  • @juliemcbride8722
    @juliemcbride8722 2 місяці тому +1

    What a beauty ❤

  • @aaaaaaaa-lb9lo
    @aaaaaaaa-lb9lo 2 місяці тому +5

    People don't like the word "respect" because it's often used with abuse. "Respect" is now interpreted as "turning the horse into a mindless robot" or "breaking the horse's spirit".
    It's too often that people who use "respect" just beat on and whip their horses, rather than properly communicating with them like how is shown here.

    • @charlief709
      @charlief709 2 місяці тому

      Agree. I think it’s become like a swear word but ultimately it could be the difference between getting your head kicked off

  • @WildYEquineServices
    @WildYEquineServices 2 місяці тому +17

    Don't cave to the word police. Respect is the word.

    • @catwoman2596
      @catwoman2596 2 місяці тому +3

      Constructive criticism and ideas are baddd. Shhh...

    • @catwoman2596
      @catwoman2596 2 місяці тому

      "Respect me pregnant woman"...I'm your authority!!! How's that worked out in the past...ure?

  • @shanksjeffcott8598
    @shanksjeffcott8598 Місяць тому

    Im in Australia and people respond negative here when iv trained their horses with the same process they feel its harsh. And people here also arch up at the term “respect “ what iv stared to use instead is that they need to learn good “ Manners “ followed up with if your horse has good manners they will find a good home if you have to move them on

  • @onion6foot
    @onion6foot 2 місяці тому +1

    Funny how she wants to come up close to where Ryan and Becky are.

  • @terrilee3869
    @terrilee3869 2 місяці тому +1

    She's beautiful

  • @kerid195
    @kerid195 Місяць тому

    An understanding in movement. . Since they don't speak word language. It's body language 4 them❤

  • @jobloggs7400
    @jobloggs7400 Місяць тому

    i dont see fear, i see a dominant mare

  • @CWalter-g6p
    @CWalter-g6p 6 днів тому

    Honor what you are asking of her

  • @april5666
    @april5666 2 місяці тому

    re RESPECT, here are some alternatives: defer or deference, pay attention to, comply with, adhere to, heed, or politeness. I hope you see this and it helps out. I've learned so much valuable equine communication from you, that it feels good to pay a little bit back :)

  • @atsilvissoba
    @atsilvissoba 9 днів тому

    Maybe the word you're looking for in replace of respect is more like "Regard"- Holding someone's thoughts or feelings in high esteem during communication?

  • @janeenrose8097
    @janeenrose8097 2 місяці тому +1

    As for respect… we earn respect, we can’t demand respect. I think people that have trouble with the word are thinking we’re demanding respect when we’re not.🤔

  • @tommyleefunderburg7766
    @tommyleefunderburg7766 2 місяці тому

    Lots of times mayors get very very defensive even before their baby is on the ground because they know they have it and they are trying to protect it even though it's not born yet they know they have it

  • @nancyroberts9776
    @nancyroberts9776 2 місяці тому

    Cool looking mare

  • @KingsMom831
    @KingsMom831 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for another video!

  • @Ariandstella
    @Ariandstella 2 місяці тому +4

    She's just trying to take care of her foal so that no one does anything bad to her that's the reason i think

  • @lizardsofozz
    @lizardsofozz Місяць тому

    Combination of mutual respect and understanding maybe? I think use of respect is fine personally. I know that it can come with some more harsh interpretations but I think you're using it fine.

  • @ssa-skyblue
    @ssa-skyblue 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice video

  • @jacquitomaszewski7368
    @jacquitomaszewski7368 Місяць тому

    She is a beautiful Paint😍

  • @jordanwhite5470
    @jordanwhite5470 2 місяці тому +3

    We got it; FERAL. Now please pick a new word. At 5:00 minutes (& before), what I see is someone training a horse to misbehave; she's doing this every single time she steps back from the horse's advance. Very very bad for anyone's future with this horse.

  • @sherrydoudlah3082
    @sherrydoudlah3082 29 днів тому

    It is the "pecking" order in the dog world as well. It is where you are at in the Hierarchy. Ranking you as a horse or person with her group. The higher up on the level she "thinks" she is the pushier they are. ??? The highest-ranking get most access to food and resources and the greater influence over those below them.

  • @YKorNL
    @YKorNL 2 місяці тому +1

    Respect.. maybe acknowledgement?

  • @theresahatfield2105
    @theresahatfield2105 2 місяці тому

    She is so pretty

  • @TheCrimsonCoyote
    @TheCrimsonCoyote 2 місяці тому

    When you say the horse should yield, do you mean acquiesce?

  • @kimdavis2508
    @kimdavis2508 2 місяці тому

    You Da Man! 😎

  • @LindaHollister
    @LindaHollister 2 місяці тому

    She is really pretty ❤❤❤.

  • @Claudia.888
    @Claudia.888 2 місяці тому

    Not forcing her around in circles like Monthy Python🎉

  • @dreamgaits
    @dreamgaits 2 місяці тому

    We are going through the same thing here.

  • @kathleenkelley5778
    @kathleenkelley5778 2 місяці тому

    Bravo