Romila Thapar's next 'thesis' will be how Mahmud of Ghazni came to India as a Santa Claus distributing gifts to Indians. And Indians welcomed him with confettis.
Superb Understanding Sir 🙏 btw Please take some trouble to "listen" what she's actually stating rather than putting ur own bias over it. She's merely stating apart from Persian sources, what do native sources reveal. And thru this comment, u really do seem to be displeased with Indian sources especially when they fail to confirm ur expectations.
You whining 🐔 should actually take the time to watch the full video before whining. She literally talks about referring to sanskrit sources in the 2nd minute. Pathetic 🐔
@@xipingpong5165 Sir, if you can merely use verbal abuse in defense and some false propaganda if pushed, then, Please don't embarrass yourself. At least you'll end up not wasting mine and your own time.
Romilla Thappar new thesis states that Mahmud Of Ghazni came to gujrat played bayblade with Tipu Sultan and then defeated Aurangzeb in a game of Tekken 3
Her conclusions are based on four arguments, 1. Persian Sources: The chroniclers differed on the description of idol 2. Sanskrit sources: After 200-300 years of destroying the temple, the priests gave land to Arabs and traded with them 3. Jaina Sources: Kumarapala (whose rule started about almost 120 years after the destruction of the temple) repaired it and reasons cited were different than the attack of Ghazani 4. British parliamentary debate: Some gates were brought back from Ghazni and they didn’t match Indian style In my opinion, all her conclusions are nothing but forcefully used to support her hypothesis. 1. Just because the descriptions of idol differ can you deny the destruction itself. What about the glorious accounts of Mahmud’s ‘scholars’ about the destruction of Somnath temple? What about Al-Beruni’s account of Somnath’s destruction? (He is considered the First and leading Muslim Indologist) 2. Trade with the West and India is as old as the history itself. How does one nullify the destruction of the temple just because some Muslim traders were given some land or trade deals? (That too after 200 years). Did Muslims stop dealing with Hindus after demolition of Babri? 3. An assumption has been made that no effort was made to repair and reconstruct the temple between 1026 (the destruction) and 1143 (When Kumarpala’s reign began). It is possible Kumarpala’s reasons are correct but how do they defy the destruction is beyond understanding. 4. The gates not matching, again depends on preserving the WOODEN gates for over 800 years by people in Ghazni, bringing the right gates etc. Britishers always viewed India with their lenses. Their bias toward anything oriental is an open fact. A significant part of historical research is about interpreting sources. But this one-sided approach of ignoring the obvious facts and selective and bias interpretation is a tragedy in itself. Most Indians support communal harmony but that does not mean that you create false narratives to hide the truth. The invaders destroyed our temples including Somnath, That's the hard truth.
lolz... Even official Turkish and Persian sources contradict each other and Al Bruni was an Arab historian. She is open to more thorough research of all sources but you have come to a firm conclusion that imagined Somnath temple was destroyed along with 600000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 others. which no human can count except WhatsApp uni Graduates. keep it up
1. How intellectually bankrupt are you? She said the inverse, the turko persian sources described the destruction, obviously, because the attacker would like to compliment himself. While the Indic sources did not describe it. Maybe all your blood went somewhere else rather than your brain. 2. First of all that's not a conclusion that's a written reference of what the Brahmanical sources wrote. Obviously trade has been going on since Harappa with Mesopotamia and Egyptians then with Greeks in Mauryan times. 3. The trend of sources has to be assumed she is not denying that the temple has been broken, whether for natural factors or broken by an invader. She is assessing the Sanskrit sources which does not makes any assessment of breaking temples. 4. Your argument that Britishers did not understand about orient and that's why the gate is not real is feeble at best. Its assumption of many things. They did dig out most of the Mauryan sites, and introduced statisgraphical explorations. That's true they did it to rule the masses but does not prove their non verifiability of architecture. All history that we know was started by the British themselves. And it has to be case specific and art historian has to be consulted and arguments have to be analyzed or else that will be just more likely which is still far part from the truth.
Please read Sita Ram Goel's book on Temples.. He clearly repuditaes Romila using Persian sources... Romila couldnt retort, so she simple said:"Sita Ram Goel doesnt know how to use sources"..Yeah Ma'am, Sources should be USED to further an agenda..
I remember that, Goel Ji issued a public challenge to her and she arrogantly declined. Stating that "I am a superior historian, Sitaram goel is no match for me". Incredibly toxic person she is
Why don't you stretch your argument further and declare that Mahmud of Ghazni was actually a peace loving person ? If you represent left then I prefer to be on your right.
So who destroyed the Ram Mandir in Ayodhya? Who destroyed the Kashi Vishwanath? What is she trying to suggest? Is she saying that just cause there's some ambiguity as to what, which idol Ghaznavi destroyed, he was a very pious and secular man?
The sad part is that Romila Thapar skirts some obvious facts. It is true that the Ummayad Caliphate, in Syria, was bent upon conquest in the name of religion - Jihad was an espoused state policy and conversion, and slave taking is not denied even by Arab sources. The Arabs arrived on the scene in the 11th Century CE and she is talking about an imaginary image of an Arab goddess, called 'Mannat' that was preserved till the 11th Century CE at Somanth and goes on to say that the temple was destroyed by neglect and 'sea spray'. This is a perversion of the grossest kind. Extreme elements of Islam, have a track record of destruction in Al-Hind ( India ) starting with Delhi and probably continuing right to the time of Aurangzeb and his death in 1707 CE. The Arab invasion of India was cited as a Jihad and there is no hiding from that fact!
lolz. Arab never reached beyond Sindh and Multan. It were Turks, Persians, and Afghans who ruled India for centuries. No Arab ever ruled India from Delhi.
The presence of ram temple is a proven fact by Padma awardee Lal , hence it's not a revenge rather a rejuvenation of Hindu culture seeking some space for their most prominent god ideal shree ram
All I can say is that Romila Thapar speaks chaste English. She proves nothing, only plants seeds of doubt. And a thousand years of traditional lore is of no consequence. Of course, the people who were contemporaneous with those events and passed them down the generations, were living in a parallel universe and only imagined what happened !
So you'd believe foreign versions over the Indian versions of the same event? Basically pick the version that suits your agenda? All she did was give the various interpretations of the same event and it has you guys fuming.
Romila under Maulana Adul our first education minister wrote those books 📚 all wounds of partition was fresh in our hearts. She writes all the kindless of Muslim invaders.
Abe Rajive sala ullu banara. Yar accept karo Muslims ruled here. What is the problem. Why this rajive malhotra wanted to divide us. Dont waste your time after this Rajive.
@@synhope3746 We do accept is'lamic in;vaders in;vaded here and con;vertid many on the verge of swords... it's a fact. But you need to accept that you were hinddu not them.
We don't need a biased left historian's views to prove that how peacefull someone of a particular ideology was hundred of years ago when our generation can ourselves see what that particular ideology is doing in Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, England, France, Sri Lanka and almost every part of the world. Bamiyan temple was demolished recently. In Afghanistan and Pakistan it can be seen every week in newspapers. Why should I trust Ms. Thaper's view who is known to be leftist???
Please don't Trust her and continue slavery of white colonial historians, who treated their dogs better than common Indians. Please keep hating 60 caror South Asian Muslims. You will soon find fire will reach to every house.
who is known to be a leftist and the most renowned historian india has ever produced. She is not simply giving statements like the right usually does her opinion based on years of analysing literary sources and verifying them with the other sources
Summary: 1. Persian sources contradict each other. 2. Sanskrit sources say the land was given to a Muslim party to build a mosque. 3. Jain chronicles say Kumarapala restored the temple which was dilapidated because of apathy of local minister and havocs of sea. 4. The gates of Mahmood's mausoleum have Egyptian characteristics. 5. House of commons debate recreated the trauma of Hindus.
Full on try at propaganda in the name of secularism ... though I respect Dr Romila Thapar ... but things like these seems as a desperate attempt at whitewashing the muslim attacks on India and indegenous religions during early muslim rules and invasions ... one should just accept the facts ... maybe apologise or rather create a compromise based on mutual respect ... that is the only way ... greatest massacres of hindus took place during those muslim raids ... places of worship were desecrated ... The least you can do is to accept those honestly and make amends to establish harmony ...
Please cite from contemporary sources and also suggest me some authentic modern books which you have read on these raids which massacred greatest number of Hindus and destroyed thousands of temples.
@@anuradhainamdar8967 Thank you for your information! I think she is also notorious for undermining India's own historical record and for brushing aside the islamic conquest of India as inconsequential towards the ancient population. Britain would never entertain the teaching of British history written by Germans or French in it's schools but she regurgitates Indian History as told by the Brits. Funnily enough she doesn't play the same card when dealing with the islamic period with regard to indian history as written by muslim chroniclers. It would be far too bloody for her agenda. Ram Puniyani is another one, famed for glossing over inconvenient facts and putting his own interpretation across.
@@zenebparveen9143 Ok tell me what DOCUMENTED facts did she present in the court for ayodhya issue please.. ill wait for ur reply.. since ur a very big follower ud know and answer only tell me about historical facts she has given that proved that babri was made on vacant land...
As per thapar it seems that different versions of particular happenings is to be widely discussed and some more insights and try to collect much more evidences to prove the right understanding of the true history to replace the fabricated one and denying the chances to incite feelings under communal lines
Dear Friends, I am student of history in 80 s from Central University. Prof Romila,Irfan Habib, Kosambi and few more were patronized by the then Congress govt to write history in a manner which depicts Muslim rulers are most refined, peace loving and great administrators. We were taught Akbar the great as most secular and ruled with harmony. Shahjahan was a great builder. Before his reign there was no architecture in India. Aurangzeb was a pious ruler. Somnath , Mathura, Kasi, Hoya sala, kakatiyan temples were destroyed by Hindu rulers only. So we are unnecessarily blaming peace loving, sophisticated and cultures Muslim rulers of Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan,Turkey and Afghanistan. For writing history we should not depend on local sources . Persian chronicles are authentic. Next time when Rahul Gandhi becomes PM , he should give Bharata ratna to these congress sponsored historians
She doesn't know Persian. But she always had a view point. I recommend to study jadhu Nath Sarkar. He was well versed in Persian and Islamic history. You will know what Islamic invaders did to our hindu lands.
The claim that the 2nd mosque was built in India in Kerala has been refuted by eminent historians like mgs Narayanan. We now have convincing proof that the cheraman mosque is built in 12th century not 8th century
Why can't you imagine a magnet that lifts and suspends a stone pillar - if the stone has some magnetic material content? Not only in Somnath, even now in some temples in India such magnetic levitated pillars are there. Without doing the necessary home work one should not talk like this.
It's fun working with history . U can very cleverly highlight only those sources which has the power to prove your point and be silent about the other. That's historically the most efficient way to develop narratives. Which is exactly what this old woman here is so apt at doing !
So you'd believe foreign versions over the Indian versions of the same event? Basically pick the version that suits your agenda? All she did was give the various interpretations of the same event and it has you guys fuming.
Oh my god…how did just a few ppl like them were allowed to distort our history and also hurt religious sentiments. It’s shameful that Hinduism is considered so browbeaten that any bullshit like this woman’s was accepted.
I saw a door given by the King of Afghanistan at the Museum of Islamic Art in Cairo and I wonder if it its origins are connected to the "Egyptian" door identified by the Viceroy. 👏
Romila Thapar and Irfan Habib long live because They have to see from their own eyes the rebuilding of all demolished temples And India once again become Hindu rashtra
Romila Thapar - If you believe whatever you say is true, do you have the guts and minimum esteem for a face to face with Rajiv Malhotra to prove what is right and what is not? If yes, why don't you accept his offer of a discussion of any subject of common interest at the place you choose?
Seems like she talked to lot of her colleagues who agreed with her beliefs. She believed what persian scripture said. No wonder she came to the conclusion what she wanted.
And those who read "bhavishya Puran" u should know why maha mad feared godess because by which mantra he was burned to ashes and how they took and buried it at the place which later came to be known as mada_ heena_ Puri . So it's there in that 5000 year old book .
Sad state of affairs that history cannot be discussed neutral from "what present form of India should be".I am a secular person and think India should be secular. I also want the history of Somnath temple be discussed even debated without being disagreeable. Tragedy of the situation (very clear from the comments below as well) is that one side purely wants a Hindu-India , Non-secular-India and want to use history (assuming their version of Somnath temple destruction is correct) and the other side feeling threatened by it (justifiably threatened) is probably in some cases ( not particularly talking about Romilaji) is over emphasizing some facts and undermining some other facts. I wish we could take secularism, rights of present day Muslims in India for granted, cast in stone and then have an open conversation about past , even may be about atrocities committed by Muslim invaders which does not justify why Muslims should have any less right in 2018 India.
This isnt a neutral stance on History it's a Communist perspective on indian History written from the perspective of invading forces that categorize everything that existed before it as the age of darkness before they came to justify there atrocities.
I think Thapar is against Hinduism but even i have to admit few ppl here or anywhere have tried to learn so much about it like she has. i would think that takes love but i don't know. if what she is saying is true-- which is easy to determine because the sources are stated--- then truly, who is against who?
Thanks for the clarification Professor Ramila. Every evidence that goes against the narrative of hate propagation of hindutva is suppressed by the trollers. This will have a bad impact on their effort to gather vote in the name of communalism.
Many person are criticizing her but no 1 will dare to compete her in logic. I mean she spent her life in research for the history. And now when she is giving many logic to think so these blind guyz are critizing her. I think she is best in history and I am being a historian read almost all her books. Salute to u maam
Shu Kri Mi and does she mentions any credible source or for that sake any source at all that we can look on to ( except Persian scripts from where I don't know) and how can you deny the scientific research done and its conclusion like carbon dating which proves that it was the work of ghazni
Thanks to people like Prof Romila, India was progressive and is struggling to be progressive amidst these mushroom growth of Idiots, the likes of whom we can see in comments below. And I hope she will continue to inspire new scholars because nation cant survive with idiots.
Really look at wiki www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somnath_temple&ved=2ahUKEwjV9vPSxaDgAhUMSX0KHWNLDbwQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw02eLCKbdadxXC82exJAEdO&cshid=1549230637901
I would like to say all the right will people that there is a huge void of Internet in the right way and if he want to counter these people we need intellectual people like subrmanian swami Vikram Sampat Anuj Ghar Jai sai Deepak Abhijeet iyar
Of course Kumar pal mentions the dilapidated condition because he was 100 years after Mahmud and temple had been restored again , dilapidated AGAIN and restored by Kumar pal again
First a magnet which can suspend a lingum is not your concern , leave it to scientist,lot of architecture of ancient is incomprehensible to modern day scientist
Romila Thapar's next 'thesis' will be how Mahmud of Ghazni came to India as a Santa Claus distributing gifts to Indians. And Indians welcomed him with confettis.
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Lol
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Her story proves jesus was indeed born of a virgin and muhammad talked to angels.
Thankyou so much mam
How it is possible
You must be one of ardent bhakts, she is rational and objective not driven by blind superstitious belief like you.
Still,to fix the head of elephant on the head of a child is not proved🤣🤣🤣
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2 billion momins cannot rescue Qibla e awaal from Jews.
it's a sarcastic joke
Distortion of History to advocate for a false hormony will ultimately breed more resentment society.
She is a fake historian who always distort history to appease one community.
They lied in some time ...so has to continue the same lie ....
@@nish8756 so you write it.
@@Aryan-ow5jd. At least I can read and use my brain. You have to read use logic.
So you'd believe foreign versions over the Indian versions of the same event?
Superb Logic: If persian scholars dont agree on what was desecrated, then the desecration didnt happen..
@K Rao I think he is being sarcastic
Superb Understanding Sir 🙏 btw Please take some trouble to "listen" what she's actually stating rather than putting ur own bias over it.
She's merely stating apart from Persian sources, what do native sources reveal.
And thru this comment, u really do seem to be displeased with Indian sources especially when they fail to confirm ur expectations.
You whining 🐔 should actually take the time to watch the full video before whining. She literally talks about referring to sanskrit sources in the 2nd minute. Pathetic 🐔
@@xipingpong5165 Sir, if you can merely use verbal abuse in defense and some false propaganda if pushed, then, Please don't embarrass yourself. At least you'll end up not wasting mine and your own time.
😜😜😜😜🤣🤣.
It's like if no one saw Jessica get shot in the head , then no on killed Jessica
Romilla Thappar new thesis states that Mahmud Of Ghazni came to gujrat played bayblade with Tipu Sultan and then defeated Aurangzeb in a game of Tekken 3
Her conclusions are based on four arguments,
1. Persian Sources: The chroniclers differed on the description of idol
2. Sanskrit sources: After 200-300 years of destroying the temple, the priests gave land to Arabs and traded with them
3. Jaina Sources: Kumarapala (whose rule started about almost 120 years after the destruction of the temple) repaired it and reasons cited were different than the attack of Ghazani
4. British parliamentary debate: Some gates were brought back from Ghazni and they didn’t match Indian style
In my opinion, all her conclusions are nothing but forcefully used to support her hypothesis.
1. Just because the descriptions of idol differ can you deny the destruction itself. What about the glorious accounts of Mahmud’s ‘scholars’ about the destruction of Somnath temple? What about Al-Beruni’s account of Somnath’s destruction? (He is considered the First and leading Muslim Indologist)
2. Trade with the West and India is as old as the history itself. How does one nullify the destruction of the temple just because some Muslim traders were given some land or trade deals? (That too after 200 years). Did Muslims stop dealing with Hindus after demolition of Babri?
3. An assumption has been made that no effort was made to repair and reconstruct the temple between 1026 (the destruction) and 1143 (When Kumarpala’s reign began). It is possible Kumarpala’s reasons are correct but how do they defy the destruction is beyond understanding.
4. The gates not matching, again depends on preserving the WOODEN gates for over 800 years by people in Ghazni, bringing the right gates etc. Britishers always viewed India with their lenses. Their bias toward anything oriental is an open fact.
A significant part of historical research is about interpreting sources. But this one-sided approach of ignoring the obvious facts and selective and bias interpretation is a tragedy in itself. Most Indians support communal harmony but that does not mean that you create false narratives to hide the truth. The invaders destroyed our temples including Somnath, That's the hard truth.
lolz... Even official Turkish and Persian sources contradict each other and Al Bruni was an Arab historian. She is open to more thorough research of all sources but you have come to a firm conclusion that imagined Somnath temple was destroyed along with 600000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 others. which no human can count except WhatsApp uni Graduates. keep it up
You comment should have more likes!
1. How intellectually bankrupt are you? She said the inverse, the turko persian sources described the destruction, obviously, because the attacker would like to compliment himself. While the Indic sources did not describe it. Maybe all your blood went somewhere else rather than your brain.
2. First of all that's not a conclusion that's a written reference of what the Brahmanical sources wrote. Obviously trade has been going on since Harappa with Mesopotamia and Egyptians then with Greeks in Mauryan times.
3. The trend of sources has to be assumed she is not denying that the temple has been broken, whether for natural factors or broken by an invader. She is assessing the Sanskrit sources which does not makes any assessment of breaking temples.
4. Your argument that Britishers did not understand about orient and that's why the gate is not real is feeble at best. Its assumption of many things. They did dig out most of the Mauryan sites, and introduced statisgraphical explorations. That's true they did it to rule the masses but does not prove their non verifiability of architecture. All history that we know was started by the British themselves. And it has to be case specific and art historian has to be consulted and arguments have to be analyzed or else that will be just more likely which is still far part from the truth.
Your argument makes sense
She is snake
Please read Sita Ram Goel's book on Temples.. He clearly repuditaes Romila using Persian sources... Romila couldnt retort, so she simple said:"Sita Ram Goel doesnt know how to use sources"..Yeah Ma'am, Sources should be USED to further an agenda..
madmax 1, Romila Thapar is a hypocrite pretending to be secular.
I remember that, Goel Ji issued a public challenge to her and she arrogantly declined. Stating that "I am a superior historian, Sitaram goel is no match for me". Incredibly toxic person she is
Why don't you stretch your argument further and declare that Mahmud of Ghazni was actually a peace loving person ? If you represent left then I prefer to be on your right.
So you'd believe foreign versions over the Indian versions of the same event?
@@AmanKumar-de1kc
Why not?
It will be conclusion of both versions.
@@AmanKumar-de1kc shameless brown sepoy
Listen carefully
Romila thapar ghazni is speaking
Truth is always in bitter taste
@@jagadeeswaranr3821 yeah and this is not bitter
@@jagadeeswaranr3821 false truth by a fake historian
@@jagadeeswaranr3821 Her lies are very sweet that's why you jihadi lovers are enjoying so much
One thing is consistent here. The desecration happened, they all agreed.
Cunning and clever at distorting history.......
Constantly whining and doesn't even have the skills to actually listen to the video 🐔
Bloody leftist...
So who destroyed the Ram Mandir in Ayodhya? Who destroyed the Kashi Vishwanath? What is she trying to suggest? Is she saying that just cause there's some ambiguity as to what, which idol Ghaznavi destroyed, he was a very pious and secular man?
She is saying lolz
How can anyone destroy some nonexistent crap
@@klersswhen someone can give birth to a crap ( like you)
Why not this??
@@klerss u mean allah
There is no conclusive evidence to prove that there was a Ram temple in the first place. How can one destroy a non-existent thing?
The sad part is that Romila Thapar skirts some obvious facts. It is true that the Ummayad Caliphate, in Syria, was bent upon conquest in the name of religion - Jihad was an espoused state policy and conversion, and slave taking is not denied even by Arab sources. The Arabs arrived on the scene in the 11th Century CE and she is talking about an imaginary image of an Arab goddess, called 'Mannat' that was preserved till the 11th Century CE at Somanth and goes on to say that the temple was destroyed by neglect and 'sea spray'. This is a perversion of the grossest kind. Extreme elements of Islam, have a track record of destruction in Al-Hind ( India ) starting with Delhi and probably continuing right to the time of Aurangzeb and his death in 1707 CE. The Arab invasion of India was cited as a Jihad and there is no hiding from that fact!
lolz. Arab never reached beyond Sindh and Multan. It were Turks, Persians, and Afghans who ruled India for centuries. No Arab ever ruled India from Delhi.
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Still he is right.
This is called history distortion . She used the position for destruction of history . shame
The presence of ram temple is a proven fact by Padma awardee Lal , hence it's not a revenge rather a rejuvenation of Hindu culture seeking some space for their most prominent god ideal shree ram
Yeah.. har Romila Thapar ke lie Ek meenakshi Jain Zarur hoti h
It means we have to write down what we eat in lunch to prove after 5000 years that people before 5000 years ago used to have lunch and no dinner. 🙄🙄🤣🤣
exactly, this is the kind of mental gymnastics these communist historians do.
All I can say is that Romila Thapar speaks chaste English. She proves nothing, only plants seeds of doubt. And a thousand years of traditional lore is of no consequence. Of course, the people who were contemporaneous with those events and passed them down the generations, were living in a parallel universe and only imagined what happened !
So you'd believe foreign versions over the Indian versions of the same event? Basically pick the version that suits your agenda? All she did was give the various interpretations of the same event and it has you guys fuming.
She's an M.A. in English and has not studied history beyond school
Romila under Maulana Adul our first education minister wrote those books 📚 all wounds of partition was fresh in our hearts. She writes all the kindless of Muslim invaders.
She should come on a common platform with personality like Rajivji and debate it! She would not DARE!
Abe Rajive sala ullu banara. Yar accept karo Muslims ruled here. What is the problem. Why this rajive malhotra wanted to divide us. Dont waste your time after this Rajive.
She won't dare cuz she will be demolished. That is the truth.
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We do accept is'lamic in;vaders in;vaded here and con;vertid many on the verge of swords... it's a fact. But you need to accept that you were hinddu not them.
scholarly justification of a voilent crime......
We don't need a biased left historian's views to prove that how peacefull someone of a particular ideology was hundred of years ago when our generation can ourselves see what that particular ideology is doing in Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, England, France, Sri Lanka and almost every part of the world. Bamiyan temple was demolished recently. In Afghanistan and Pakistan it can be seen every week in newspapers. Why should I trust Ms. Thaper's view who is known to be leftist???
Please don't Trust her and continue slavery of white colonial historians, who treated their dogs better than common Indians. Please keep hating 60 caror South Asian Muslims. You will soon find fire will reach to every house.
Obvious
who is known to be a leftist and the most renowned historian india has ever produced. She is not simply giving statements like the right usually does her opinion based on years of analysing literary sources and verifying them with the other sources
@@boogy5744
It is a fact that is;lamic inv;asions were curse to In;dia and was cause of bloodbath. It should be statement for all.
@@boogy5744read about Islam too. Your opinion will change. i guess
Summary:
1. Persian sources contradict each other.
2. Sanskrit sources say the land was given to a Muslim party to build a mosque.
3. Jain chronicles say Kumarapala restored the temple which was dilapidated because of apathy of local minister and havocs of sea.
4. The gates of Mahmood's mausoleum have Egyptian characteristics.
5. House of commons debate recreated the trauma of Hindus.
Lol to all
basically communist propaganda
Thanks
Full on try at propaganda in the name of secularism ... though I respect Dr Romila Thapar ... but things like these seems as a desperate attempt at whitewashing the muslim attacks on India and indegenous religions during early muslim rules and invasions ... one should just accept the facts ... maybe apologise or rather create a compromise based on mutual respect ... that is the only way ... greatest massacres of hindus took place during those muslim raids ... places of worship were desecrated ... The least you can do is to accept those honestly and make amends to establish harmony ...
But the story we are listening is also not true
@@alishahassan8396 Akbar is greatest king ever who didn't even kill a single innocent being in his entire life
Please cite from contemporary sources and also suggest me some authentic modern books which you have read on these raids which massacred greatest number of Hindus and destroyed thousands of temples.
@@TajamalGhummansince 6 yrs he can't able to present this thing apart from delusion
A rouge interviewing another rouge ! Her willful ignorance of truth has misled generations !!! And one day her lies will haunt her !!!
Is this woman related to Mr Nehru?
Mr Hakuse she is Dr.Romilla Thapar of JNU,a foremost writer in lndian history, honoured by even the Library of Congress
@@anuradhainamdar8967 Thank you for your information! I think she is also notorious for undermining India's own historical record and for brushing aside the islamic conquest of India as inconsequential towards the ancient population. Britain would never entertain the teaching of British history written by Germans or French in it's schools but she regurgitates Indian History as told by the Brits. Funnily enough she doesn't play the same card when dealing with the islamic period with regard to indian history as written by muslim chroniclers. It would be far too bloody for her agenda. Ram Puniyani is another one, famed for glossing over inconvenient facts and putting his own interpretation across.
@K Rao Without wishing to make this into a personal assault on RT's looks or make up regime. Bela Lugosi playing Dracula actually comes to mind!!!
She is illegitimate child of nehru😂😂😂😂
she is the sugar baby of rajiv gandhi
Let's say that the Ghazni didn't destroy Somnath but what about the other 6 destructions
I don't know about this lady but definitely I can say best example of PADHAT MURKH!
I am not sure if she should be called Padhat😂
Romila tapar why are you so AGAINST HINDUS AND HINDUISM
The bigots won't pay heed to the documented facts, they will keep insisting on the madness contained in their head.
@@zenebparveen9143 Ok tell me what DOCUMENTED facts did she present in the court for ayodhya issue please.. ill wait for ur reply.. since ur a very big follower ud know and answer only tell me about historical facts she has given that proved that babri was made on vacant land...
@@zenebparveen9143 Are you talking about the desert cult of 1400 years? You are right
In her next life she shud be born as a beautiful women in Ghaznavis period
She is more dangerous than Gaznavi and Aurangzeb....
As per thapar it seems that different versions of particular happenings is to be widely discussed and some more insights and try to collect much more evidences to prove the right understanding of the true history to replace the fabricated one and denying the chances to incite feelings under communal lines
These "intellectuals" are now fossils ; the people of Bharat have booted them out - lock , stock and barrel 🤣
Dear Friends,
I am student of history in 80 s from Central University. Prof Romila,Irfan Habib, Kosambi and few more were patronized by the then Congress govt to write history in a manner which depicts Muslim rulers are most refined, peace loving and great administrators. We were taught Akbar the great as most secular and ruled with harmony. Shahjahan was a great builder. Before his reign there was no architecture in India. Aurangzeb was a pious ruler. Somnath , Mathura, Kasi, Hoya sala, kakatiyan temples were destroyed by Hindu rulers only. So we are unnecessarily blaming peace loving, sophisticated and cultures Muslim rulers of Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan,Turkey and Afghanistan.
For writing history we should not depend on local sources . Persian chronicles are authentic.
Next time when Rahul Gandhi becomes PM , he should give Bharata ratna to these congress sponsored historians
She doesn't know Persian. But she always had a view point. I recommend to study jadhu Nath Sarkar. He was well versed in Persian and Islamic history. You will know what Islamic invaders did to our hindu lands.
after mecca first mosque was made in India by Hindu king cheruman in kerela
He was a hindu ..but he converted to islam
The claim that the 2nd mosque was built in India in Kerala has been refuted by eminent historians like mgs Narayanan. We now have convincing proof that the cheraman mosque is built in 12th century not 8th century
@@shantkm100 he didnt convert to Islam dumbfuck he refurbish it for traders to pray.
And how is that working out for kerela lol? Most ISIS recruits come from that state
Yes mam you are right,all Mughals are very peaceful and they had not done anything wrong.
😂
Why can't you imagine a magnet that lifts and suspends a stone pillar - if the stone has some magnetic material content? Not only in Somnath, even now in some temples in India such magnetic levitated pillars are there. Without doing the necessary home work one should not talk like this.
It's her real job sir....she gets paid and installation as professor emeritus for spreading these false and fabricated myths only.
It's fun working with history . U can very cleverly highlight only those sources which has the power to prove your point and be silent about the other.
That's historically the most efficient way to develop narratives. Which is exactly what this old woman here is so apt at doing !
So you'd believe foreign versions over the Indian versions of the same event? Basically pick the version that suits your agenda? All she did was give the various interpretations of the same event and it has you guys fuming.
Some things can understand without historians like her
Wow this lady tells next that ghajini is next Gandhi.
She looks like surphanaka
because she is a surpanakha. she is evil
The eternal liar with mother of fake, cooked up stories 😲😡😠
mother of German shepherd
Oh my god…how did just a few ppl like them were allowed to distort our history and also hurt religious sentiments. It’s shameful that Hinduism is considered so browbeaten that any bullshit like this woman’s was accepted.
If earlier time history was of it in Sanskrit then what and why to interpret other scripts which came later?
Two Agent helping each other to sell Bharat
I saw a door given by the King of Afghanistan at the Museum of Islamic Art in Cairo and I wonder if it its origins are connected to the "Egyptian" door identified by the Viceroy. 👏
Romila Thapar and Irfan Habib long live because
They have to see from their own eyes the rebuilding of all demolished temples
And
India once again become Hindu rashtra
LMAO DED
@@jeet-kun-do expand
It hurts when these kind of people Change the facts.
Romila Thapar - If you believe whatever you say is true, do you have the guts and minimum esteem for a face to face with Rajiv Malhotra to prove what is right and what is not? If yes, why don't you accept his offer of a discussion of any subject of common interest at the place you choose?
The thumbnail itself scares me , I don’t need her illogical, twisted and biased analysis to get frightened.
Aurangazeb is more non violent than Gandhi😂😂😂
Romila Thapar was not a historian she was leftist psrudohistorian promoted by Congress Government. Now how she was historian is to be debated.
true
Seems like she talked to lot of her colleagues who agreed with her beliefs. She believed what persian scripture said. No wonder she came to the conclusion what she wanted.
OMG! she may one day say taliban didnt destroy bamian buddhas, an earthquake or a sandstorm did.
And gazhni came to bow before somnath.
And those who read "bhavishya Puran" u should know why maha mad feared godess because by which mantra he was burned to ashes and how they took and buried it at the place which later came to be known as mada_ heena_ Puri .
So it's there in that 5000 year old book .
Single handedly distorted the ancient fabric of Bhartiya culture and civilisation
She had specific agenda to fulfil.
Sad state of affairs that history cannot be discussed neutral from "what present form of India should be".I am a secular person and think India should be secular. I also want the history of Somnath temple be discussed even debated without being disagreeable. Tragedy of the situation (very clear from the comments below as well) is that one side purely wants a Hindu-India , Non-secular-India and want to use history (assuming their version of Somnath temple destruction is correct) and the other side feeling threatened by it (justifiably threatened) is probably in some cases ( not particularly talking about Romilaji) is over emphasizing some facts and undermining some other facts.
I wish we could take secularism, rights of present day Muslims in India for granted, cast in stone and then have an open conversation about past , even may be about atrocities committed by Muslim invaders which does not justify why Muslims should have any less right in 2018 India.
This isnt a neutral stance on History it's a Communist perspective on indian History written from the perspective of invading forces that categorize everything that existed before it as the age of darkness before they came to justify there atrocities.
Muslim right no boss Human rights anything that goes aginst Human rights should be discarded Hindu or Muslim ect.
Muslim Rights > Human Rights??
Secular guy study Islam completely. Your opinion might change about respecting all religions.
Secularism does not mean appeasement. Call a spade a spade and stop this gymnastics with words.
These so called distorian's crime r far more grave than to those Invaders .
From the narrative given by Mrs Thapar it seems she has a colonised mind and is a leftover from the British dinner table.
Don't respect anyone because of
1.Female
2.Old aged
3.learned.
Learning does not make a person knowledgeable.
I think Thapar is against Hinduism but even i have to admit few ppl here or anywhere have tried to learn so much about it like she has. i would think that takes love but i don't know. if what she is saying is true-- which is easy to determine because the sources are stated--- then truly, who is against who?
Yes she's against Hinduism undoubtedly.
She had lied about the Ram mandir as exposed by Mr. K K Mohammad. Once a liar always a lair.
She is one of the hoor for muslims.
She is looking like MANDHRA
Thank God I don't know about her
Thanks for the clarification Professor Ramila.
Every evidence that goes against the narrative of hate propagation of hindutva is suppressed by the trollers. This will have a bad impact on their effort to gather vote in the name of communalism.
Ha;te is propagated by Is;lam throughout the w;orld. Hindutva is medicine for it.
Communism=Communalism
Many person are criticizing her but no 1 will dare to compete her in logic. I mean she spent her life in research for the history. And now when she is giving many logic to think so these blind guyz are critizing her. I think she is best in history and I am being a historian read almost all her books. Salute to u maam
From your comment I have doubts about your logic
Shu Kri Mi and does she mentions any credible source or for that sake any source at all that we can look on to ( except Persian scripts from where I don't know) and how can you deny the scientific research done and its conclusion like carbon dating which proves that it was the work of ghazni
Persian scripts arnt credible sources there the written by a invaders biased perspective.
"Many people object to public littering but no one has the time to clean up someone else's mess"
You greate grate grand father's must have bring al-manat from arebia
Completely disagree from Romila thapar logic, only she believes in his own logic and proves in her mind ,
Mam, who was that viceroy who brought those walls...can anyone say his name plss..???
lord ellenborough
Romila thapar is a secular and anti hinduism historian.
no madam muslims rullers are very peacefull.they didnt do any destruction....
She said it... he broke something important which was worshipped earlier.
02:35 may someone give me the reference of this theory? 🙏
I really love romilla thapar the intellectuals like her allowed muslims to rule over hindhus for thousand years
It is called shameless liar
Thanks to people like Prof Romila, India was progressive and is struggling to be progressive amidst these mushroom growth of Idiots, the likes of whom we can see in comments below. And I hope she will continue to inspire new scholars because nation cant survive with idiots.
Really look at wiki
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somnath_temple&ved=2ahUKEwjV9vPSxaDgAhUMSX0KHWNLDbwQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw02eLCKbdadxXC82exJAEdO&cshid=1549230637901
The only idiot I see is you.
Abe katue gyan mat jhar. Ja aur raddi hawa hawai kuran padh
Omg... u lier....
The anchor mockingly laughs at the might of Indian Architecture. 2:03
Commie commie yes papa
Sparing India no papa
Short of grants no papa
Tukde Tukde? ha ha ha
Iska Mansik santulan hil gya hai . Upar jane ke time me koe thesis deta hai kya .
I wish her a very long long life as her punishment for destroying Hinduism
Hindu only distorted somnath..is that fine madam!? Not Ghazni... Bizarre!
All the people who are accusing her, I am sure, have no idea about the Persian and Sanskrit literature she referred to.
Keep all the fake and dirty ideas in your mind
all madarsa graduates sup[port her fully
Do you think she has the ability read Sanskrit or Persian?? She knows English only.
Strange to see 2 blank minds sitting together and talking like mungeri lal 😂
Historian like her called chronicles those events which actually happened and spread generations to genarations.
And the Hilal-e-Pakistan award goes to #R.......d #Romila
I would like to say all the right will people that there is a huge void of Internet in the right way and if he want to counter these people we need intellectual people like subrmanian swami Vikram Sampat Anuj Ghar Jai sai Deepak Abhijeet iyar
Of course Kumar pal mentions the dilapidated condition because he was 100 years after Mahmud and temple had been restored again , dilapidated AGAIN and restored by Kumar pal again
What a blasphemous narration with utter confidence...
Gastaqe rasul ki ek hi saja sar tan se juda, sar tan se juda!!
@@karmaisntreal that is what israel is showing you lol
Now I know, why is she so famous.
We will never get true picture of history..its better to educate ourselves. by going through our history ourselves
this is exactly what i think...there is no point of simply wasting our time...we can educate our frnds parents childrens and next gen...
Wah what a jodi...
Dhimmi Thapar
Mam, what if he brought back wrong gate?
First a magnet which can suspend a lingum is not your concern , leave it to scientist,lot of architecture of ancient is incomprehensible to modern day scientist
It is archeological survey of India will decide not u..