I find it understated, which is better than overstated or odd looking. However, it presents a very industrial look that isn't aesthetically appealing to me. It was designed as if it were just going to sit in the back of a kitchen of a restaurant, so it needed to look sturdy, but not elegant or beautiful in any way. It's the only somewhat downside to me of this machine. I'd rather it look more elegant in my home kitchen.
Breville is not what it used to be. Even their fancy looking expensive microwaves with nice handles have issues just after warranty expire. There are many issues with firmware too.
Not all coffee machines need to come with a no fingers policy. The lack of chrome is a bonus in my opinion. The design is classic and you don’t mess with that if you want to keep your audience.
One thing worth mentioning is that a full pressure flush/purge is required for soft infusion to work properly before inserting the portafilter as the group head needs to be fully saturated. Otherwise water will just drizzle from the center onto the puck which can lead to heavy channeling. I almost gave up on soft infusion until I accidentally found out about that but I still find it a bit stressful as the gap between flushing and starting soft-infusion shouldn’t take longer than maybe 3 seconds, otherwise the saturation is gone and drizzling happens again…
Rancilio’s ‘soft infusion’ is somewhat different from traditional pre-infusion. The intended goal for those few seconds is not necessarily to fully saturate the grounds, but rather to partially empty the coffee boiler so that when the pump engages it takes longer to fill the boiler and reach full pressure, aka a soft pressure ramp. The longer the soft infusion the longer the pressure ramp. To take full advantage of this feature, the group should be purged for about 3 seconds prior to pulling a shot. Hold down the brew switch until it reads ‘F’ (stands for flush), then start your shot cycle. When compared to shots with no soft infusion, I did find that the soft infusion mitigated the channeling issues I observed in the full pressure shots. Overall, I think it’s a useful feature.
I’ve owned a Pro X since December 2021, an upgrade from Gaggia Classic. I think Spro is right on target here. It’s a fantastic machine and I love it. I have nothing bad to say about it. The drip tray doesn’t bother me. The minimalistic design suits our kitchen aesthetic, so it is a win for me, ticking all the right boxes, especially in terms of functionality and reliability. Highly recommend this. Great review Spro, I was so excited when you reviewed my machine.
@@surepho9796 I consistently make tulip stacks, rosetta, ripple hearts, .. like any machine you’ll have to learn the way through working with it and dialing in your method. For me, I have had no problems at all. The duel boiler is great. I can pull great tasting shots back to back without an issue.
@@ccuellar6212 true! I haven’t had a mess yet and it has been around 9 months. I’m sure you can get an aftermarket float indicator for cheap, but I didn’t even bother. I’m pretty meticulous with what I’m doing. I can see how it could be an issue for some. Admittedly a strange design for a drip tray but definitely not a deal breaker for me and I’m very pleased with my decision.
Is It a big step up over the GCP. I just got the GCP and find it very clumsy to use with limited space , the steam wand is not so user friendly also. I know you can get good steamed milk on it with good technique but these things bug me, obviously the dual boiler is a big upgrade. I guess what I mean is how do you find daily use on Silvia X and are shots tasting better,,glad you made the change etc, thanks
I have had one of the early early models for almost 20 years. No frills. Single boiler. Looks almost the same as the most current model, so they obviously haven't changed the manufacturing process for most of the machine. I added a third party PID years ago. It's never let me down. I wouldn't use it to entertain guests who all order cappuccinos and lattes - single boiler sucks big time for that - but for a couple of espressos or coffee drinks daily, it's gold. And it was priced way lower than what you have to pay today for a much more advanced machine, of course. I love my Silvia.
Very good summary, I have the same thoughts, and a similar electronic thermostat modification. Only bad thing I can say is my chassis is a bit corroded, after 5 years of almost daily use.
@@daniel635biturbo My Silvia got a simple mod from a 3D printing website wich extends the opv outlet to the drip tray just a bit. Since then all the water ends where it belongs to.
I purchased the Pro just as the Pro X was released and got a great clearance deal. Yes, the look isn't the best, but I only care about workflow and results, and I think the Pro 100% delivers, especially for the price. Not sure how many other dual's can do what it does for that price-point. I wasn't too concerned with paying almost $1,000 more for the X just to get pre-infusion (the pressure gage is nice to look it, but ultimately doesn't really do anything). I've heard these machines are pure workhorses, and will last forever if properly maintained. Love it.
We upgraded to one of these machines when our Breville/Sage Barista Express gave up on us. We also got a Niche Zero, so quite a change. But it was worth it with much better coffee and much, much more consistency. We love both the new machines. Yes the drip tray design is not perfect but it's just part of the routine to empty it, just like topping up with fresh water. I like the design but am a "substance over style" kind of chap. I'm surprised you didn't mention that the pump runs at 9bar straight out of the box, unlike most similarly priced machines. Being in the UK meant that it was shipped direct from Italy, which was pretty straightforward. So in case you haven't worked it out, it's a big thumbs up from me!
I’m very happy with the Silvia pro x, been using for 6 months, solid workflow and easy use. I didn’t enjoy setting the “wake up in x hours” so added a smart plug to power up before I wake up and it’s ready to use everyday. The back flush process with the cap is a bit odd and I think I’ll buy a blank basket for easier maintenance process. I prefer the clean look and design over other machines with more ornamental and unnecessary designs. I’ve seen a lot of reviews complaining about the drip try, and while I agree the lift out isn’t the best, I haven’t found it an issue as it doesn’t require frequent emptying unless you’re flushing the group head into the tray frequently, even regular maintenance doesn’t fill it much so this just isn’t a problem during normal use.
I recently purchased a moded V1 and I absolutely love it. The minimalist design makes it look great - it just sits charmingly in my kitchen I've also got it for a fraction of the price of the pro x, and I have 75% of what the pro x offers 😍
I just got the Silvia today. Was looking for the most basic machine to mod. By modding the Silvia you can get preinfusion, pressure profiling, and also build a built-in scale. With the mods, this machine would be far better than machines that cost 3 times more. Bear in mind that due to small boiler, it makes an excellent machine for brewing 2 cups at a time.
Great review, but it wouldn't be a Silvia if they changed the design. I love that it carries its heritage with pride. The only problem is that they're so reliable that you only ever need to buy one. I've got a 2016 5e, and it is still perfect. Would be nice if they sold upgrade kits.
I generally agree. However, I would love to see a new design from them. Perhaps I would have chosen to keep the Rancilio Silvias as they currently are and dop the price while making these iterations (the Pro and Pro X) with a new form factor. A redesigned drip tray, water tank, and a pressure gauge viewable by someone over 5' tall would be very welcome changes in a new chassis.
I've owned the pro (not x) for about a year now and it is an incredible machine and an even better value. I think the soft infusion would be interesting to play with but not worth the jump for me. I have heard the gripe about the drip tray several times before and I really don't understand it. This isn't a HX machine. You're not blasting copious amounts of water in to your drip tray to do a cooling flush. I make about two drinks a day and quite honestly, the water in the drip tray is usually evaporated by the next day!
My Rancilio Silvia from 2013 had a boiler made of a low yield lead alloy, raising questions of its impact on taste but also bringing up health concerns, so great to see they switched to brass. I didn’t see this in the video but I believe the machine also offers a direct plumbing connection? The pressure of the of the direct connection could lead to some changes needed at a PID level. Also, would be great to have seen more on the build quality. Though put together with a solid steel frame, the brew-head housing was previously wrapped in a faux polished steel plastic that peeled over time. One last note, Silvias are notoriously loud and a comparison with similar machines could have been an important piece of information for those considering the purchase.
Just what I needed this morning. Calmness just rushed through my mind & body. Such a joyous feeling. All my stress has evaporated. Much blessings sent to you. One of the best videos ever!
Coming from a guy with a modded Silvia ver1 for 10 years. Its a tank... all parts available online and has been a solid performer - but "temp surfing" a single boiler sucks. I can still make an amazing latte. I can say I like the basic design because its narrower, fits my counter and the wife doesn't get on my case for spending the money on what could look like a fancy machine. The PID menus are normal for someone used to the standard Auger PID on most of those. You don't get in those menus too often once set. You make your kick ass pro-sumer latte and go to work. I'm about to buy one of these PRO x for the dual boiler alone, and I don't want to drop $5k on a linea mini...thank you for the review thumbs up.
I have had Rancilio Silvias for about 20 years - they have consistently made good espresso, but the main drawback has been how slow it takes for the boiler to warm up and having to wait. I have given one to our son, and have a backup waiting in the wings in case anything goes bad that I cannot fix. The Pro X looks like it might be a very good investment (hint for my wife) this Christmas.
I've had my Rancilio Silvia since 2018. She makes 2 cups a day sometimes more. Thought about upgrading to the double boiler Pro X, but the single boiler is more than capable of producing great coffees. Maintenance is minimal and I've had no issues with her so far. A fantastic and dependable machine. I paid around $700 +/- back then and while id like a Pro X, I can't see a better cup made for the cost of a Pro X. In the mean time. My old single boiler continues to make coffee house quality at home for pennies per serving... Silvia and Rocky also travel with me on road trips. One other thing. The drip tray has never been an issue for me an works just fine...just empty it when done. The fact that you tip it up to remove is also a non issue. Nothing will spill out.
It does have a lot going for it in that price range. It seems the Pro has more or less been replaced with the X though. For better or worse, but it’s a few hundred dollars more from what I understand.
I have that single boiler base model of the silvia and I personally love it. I am used to a commercial machine at work so waiting between brewing and steaming is a bit tedious so I know one day I will get a dual boiler, since I’m spoiled from a commercial machine.. 😅 but overall no dissatisfaction from the base model!
Thanks Matthew, and yeah it’s very easy and simple to use. The look for me just goes a bit too far into the utilitarian and as someone who films and photographs for a living I just tend to struggle in finding angles that really hit right on this machine.
Got for myself a duo temp pro and tbh for a single person and only one espresso a day this machine is almost unbeatable. Super fast warm up, very easy access for water tank and easy to clean plus makes really good coffee. Can’t say anything about Rancillio except that it has very industrial and classic design for espresso machines from 1990’s 👍
I love my RSPX. I love the basic linear look too. It does exactly what its supposed to and my all black looks beautiful. There are many machines that have crazy designs and pretty lights but simple don't provide what they're made for. Make good/consistent espresso.
I’ve owned a Silvia (v2) since 2010. Never missed a beat. These things are built to last, and those switches are still crisp today. Only had a tiny bit of flaking on some aesthetic tin-like finishing around the porta filter shroud. A good grinder is an absolute must, and without a PID (can be modded on an old one or included as is here) you have to become pretty good at surfing that boiler temperature by feel. But overall this version looks like it solves most of the issues in terms of workflow with previous generations. Now the only question left, is this iteration still built to the same standard and will last for 12+ years?
I find the Rancilios look much better when painted. The stainless versions just remind me of the kind of industrial kitchen equipment you would find in a hospital or old folk's home.
I actually have their full upgrade set, it just arrived after I started filming and didn’t want it to just show up. But you’ll see it in another upcoming video featuring the X.
I remember almost buying this machine. It was sooo tempting. But the small drip tray and weird button functions swayed me into the Quickmill Arnos. I think the Rancilio design is beautiful though.
@@Sprometheus at least give us a shallow drip tray with the option to drain it through a small tube out the back to a larger container under the table.
I have had a Ms Silvia for 7 years now other then replacing expendables the machine has worked faultlessly through out that time period. I do drink 99% espresso so having a single boiler works fine, (temperature surfing) and I can steam milk when I need to. I have upgraded the shower screen, silicon gasket, portafilter, insulated the boiler and rebuilt the steam valve.
Love my Silvia. I have had the same one for 8 years, a single boiler with an aftermarket PID. The thing is a tank! It is still performing as though it was its first day out of the box. That was the main reason why I invested in the Silvia as they are touted to have a long lifespan. I have been using it everyday to make anywhere from 2 to 4 cups of espresso (ultimately americanos). If this bad boy every does go down, another Silvia will be at the top of my list due to its features and longevity!
Same experience almost word for word. Finally, it's time for a new machine (I have to move the wires under the hood to heat the machine before use...just a wiggle but it's a sign of age) and I'm looking at the updated models as I work towards making my decision. Rancilio Silvia is the leading machine at this point.
i have the version 2 since 2005 ish. i changed the portafilter gasket once!! thats it nothing else. for upgrades i bought some ims baskets and a potrafilter. downside is the lack of temperature stability especially with such a small boiler, it needs a pid
I've had mine for about 2 years now and its worked flawlessly without any issues No Error Codes or Overheating Issues. I'm making great drinks in less than 15 minutes. The only annoyance is when you empty the brew and steam boiler and store it for a month the plastic pipes got moldy this happened to me in the peak of summer when temperature outside was around 95 - 100F. It was hard to clean it out thoroughly so I purchased new pipes online for like 6$ and it took me about 30 minutes to replace both pipes that are in the water reservoir. Other than that the machine is solid. I've made 2-3 drinks for me and my wife everyday for 2 years and also occasionally drinks for 2-4 guests and it has worked flawlessly. Dual Boiler, Dual PID and Dual Vibratory Pump works without any issues. I wish the steam wand was burn proof and the drip tray design is kinda odd but other than that a solid machine. Feels like it will last a decade or more if you maintain it regularly with back flushing and good water. Hope this helps.
I’ve owned the v3 and v5E single boiler Silvia’s. These machines are solid and consistent and really seamed to kickstart the “prosumer” market off. I worked my v3 to death but the black sub chassis of the v5 is rusting badly now. I’d be shopping elsewhere for a replacement except for Rancillio moving to Inix steel on the latest frames. The Pro X is priced more keenly now so might make the leap to a dual boiler.
OMG they still have not fixed that bloody drip tray issues after all these years! Like seriously this is such an easy thing for them to fix. Anyway this was a very good review !
Our 2006 vintage Silvia has needed some major repairs (all DIY) but has cranked out about 5,000 mostly triple shots in those 16 years. New steam valve, overhauled (leaky) boiler gasket, and just recently a new pump. I'm about to get the Auber pre-infusion PID kit for it, as temp surfing is tedious. Consistent water temp is worth the extra cost. But wow, it makes great espresso with practice.
What would you recommend between the Silvia Pro X and the Profitec Pro 500 heat exchanger with PID and Flow Control. I cannot decide between the two. I am upgrading from a Gaggia Classic pro. Thanks for the video. Very Helpful.
I have had a silvia (pid'ed) for about 20 years (breville last 16mths, boo) so I am a fan. Since I am pretty much an espresso drinker their is not much of a draw for the second boiler, but for that money I would just like some fancier sheetmetal and knobs. Espeically strange when you consider that an Italiian standard is "Styling is not that much more expensive than ugly". Or something in that vein.
I just bought a new Silvia M, to replace our 19 year old Silvia (first gen). I was looking at the Pro X, but just couldn't swing the extra $1k for dual boiler, PID, and other bells and whistles. But after getting a new Silvia M, I wonder ... It might be nice for you to address the difference between the two machines, to help someone like me (in the future) to decide which way to go and if the Pro X is worth the extra wheelbarrow of coins. My gripe with the new Silvia M, is that in four days, I have thrown away about 12 pulls, and drank two. I'm using the same Rocky grinder, same Cafe Umbria Gusto Crema beans, and the coffee is not worth drinking. I have adjusted my grinder with increments down to "6" on my grinder. After 19 years of enjoying my setup, I find it difficult to understand how everything I was doing, immediately went south with the new Silvia M. Even with everything else dialed in and tested (one change at a time), I'm getting shots pulled at an average of 14 seconds before the light comes on. My wife has accidentally, had two experiences where the pull was in spec, closer to 30 seconds. I contacted Whole Latte Love days ago about this and haven't heard back. So I'm not pleased there. I bought my previous machine from them as well. Anyway, not to be a complainer, my point is simply that beginners should steer clear of this machine unless it offers easier control over the M model. Otherwise, there is the potential for hating the machine. If the Pro X solves the issues I'm having, I would have to seriously consider if I'd pay the extra money.
I have a suspicion the PRE-INFUSION settings being hidden in the last menu item is just a way for Rancillio to save on some extra work and testing - it's an -addition- to the menu that was otherwise functional and programmed and proven. If they'd added it in a different order, re-ordering the options -COULD- always cause bugs in the future that weren't present in the 'non-X' version.
After I bought a dedica with a bottomless portafilter and a rancillio steam wand, I dont really understand what else one would need to get good coffee. I mean for 200 usd its totally unbeatable.
It is no surprise to see other brands adding touch screens to the flagship modals, and that is just something that Silvia will likely never do. Functionality and control are all awesome, but if you need to reference a spreadsheet to access those functions it can be daunting and even kick the customer over to the other competition. If anything, this brand could use a refresh on the externals and drip tray design as it is simply the worst in this price category.
Excellent review, thank you. Can you please review the Profitec Go and the Diletta Mio since in my opinion are the obvious contenders of the Rancilio Silvia Pro X?
I have this model in white. I like the looks, particularly next to the white niche. Keeps the countertop from looking to cluttered. And the shots are very consistent. I'm still playing with the soft infusion.
Why they don’t improve the drip tray design is one of the world’s greatest mysteries and leads me to think the engineers in charge get some kind of sadistic pleasure from making it so awkward to empty.
Thank for the analysis. I did considered the Sylvia ProX when I recently decided to upgrade, but I am glad I opted instead for the Bellezza Bellona for basically the same features (1600$ Canadian). Love the stainless steel dual boilers the PID, the somewhat pre-infusion, the glass water container instead of plastic, etc. A review of yours would be very interesting. ☕👍
Just wanted to ask if you still love your Bellezza Bellona? I'm currently looking for an upgrade from my Breville and looked it up after reading your comment and this machine looks like it has the features of machines that sell for 2.5k. Cheers! :)
Rancilio's build quality and customer service are solid! I think for the price I still might go with an E61 group machine but I do think this model has a good place in the world of home machines. Feels like it's a good beginning of a new design but to me, it's not quite there as it lacks the steam power you would expect of a dual boiler. I would give it 6/10 ish as it's good quality and good value for the price. Cheers! -Y
To be honest, I'd rather this semi-saturated ring group thing over an E61. I don't particularly like E61s, they take a long time to heat and they're much more finicky with maintenance than a solenoid switched group.
My experience with Rancilio US has been great. I reached out and they were very kind and sent this machine which isn’t always as simple as just asking. I think the E61 style is just that, a style and some folks like it and others don’t. I’m on the dont side of that. I prefer the saturated group build like this, the mini, etc. but both are capable of great espresso and have a place in the market.
Did you look into the Lelit Elizabeth? At a glance it seems to have the same core features (dual boiler with PIDs, preinfusion, pressure gauge), with a more polished look and possibly better ergonomics (although there is a single pump in the Lelit, and I wonder what this changes). It seems priced close to the Silvia Pro X in the US, but here in France it is significantly cheaper (around 1500€ for the Prox X vs. 1100€ for the Elizabeth).
The Elizabeth also has a stainless steel service boiler capable of delivering up to 4 bar of steam pressure, something you won't find on machines until you go far more expensive than that. The Elizabeth even has a feature where the steam pressure can be used to pressurize the brew water (a solenoid valve controls this), giving you full variable preinfusion. It's really an incredible machine.
I did considered those when I recently upgraded, but the Bellazza Bellonna with all these features plus a price tag of $1600. Canadian was a deal maker..
I think aesthetics is one of the main reasons people still buy E61 machines over something like this. From a capability point of view this probably crushes most E61 machines but an expensive machine is also often part of your home interior design. So a lot of people choose looks over function.
It is a price point constructed dual boiler machine. It is good for the money, but it is cheaper than E61 dual boilers for a reason. Smaller, thinner boilers. Silicone tubing throughout. Low volume vibratory pumps. And it is missing a colossal amount of brew head mass. It is a 5-8 year lifespan machine rather than a 15 year machine. It doesn’t lack capability if you are on a personal coffee journey. But you are comparing a RAV4 to a Landcruiser. Having said that, the dirty secret is that most people don’t actually use the capabilities of a Landcruiser, and a more modest car would do them fine.
@@nicbrownable well I guess that really depends on the E61 machine. For some that's surely the case. For other cheaper ones I'm not so sure. Also by far not all of them are thermaly stable. The need for cooling flush etc. doesn't make them appealing either from a workflow perspective (talking mostly about HX here but there are a lot of HX E61 in that price range out there). In terms of longevity I don't think this will last shorter than a normal E61 machine.
@@TheDusty0ne The Silvia Pro X is a machine with the features of a machine 30% more expensive with the build quality of a machine 30% cheaper. Don’t delude yourself. There are compromises. The inside is a mess of tubing, the electronics are directly under the boiler, and the 3 way valve/vacuum breaker runs liquid down the back of the front plate. It is built like a prototype machine. It is priced the same as high end E61 HX machines from Profitec, Bezzera and Crem One. For a couple of hundred more you can get into rotary pump HX. These are machines with true commercial pedigree that can be repaired with off the shelf parts from multiple manufacturers far in the future.
Great video. Thank you for that review! I am currently an owner of a Silvia V6 and has been for two years. Sort of my “work from home Covid” purchase. I find it to be great but I am lacking a bit more features and two boilers. Thus, the upgrade might be the Pro x. I love the Italian brutal design of the Silvia (and rocky grinder). I am just curious - when you switch it on, it heats the boiler for the espresso. But do you also need to turn on/heat the boiler for the water pump at the same time? So to clicks to turn both on? Just so that you are able to brew and steam right after each other. Thanks again :)
meI much prefer the understated look of the Silvia line. Chrome looks ugly and loud, but the Silvia's neutral appearance makes it appropriate for nearly any style of home or kitchen.
Nice review! I have a few questions: 1) So do we need to let the water run out of the group head before brewing? 2) Do we need to do back flushing after each brew? Does Pro X have an easier way to backflush? 3) how to cool down the boiler after steaming? Thank you!
Love your espresso machine reviews. Did you have to adjust the opv out of the box for the silvia to brew at 9 bars? And what’s the downside vs a more prosumer machine like the linea mini?
Does it have auto turn on? Would need a clock to do that presumably. I ask, because 4 mins seems a long start up duration? Maybe in need a machine with a smaller boiler like the Lalit Elizabeth
I’m seriously considering purchasing one of these machines. One question- does the soft infusion feature work with the steam boiler switched off? I won’t be using steam very frequently since I tend to drink straight espresso and find the energy savings appealing from just heating the brew boiler. The Lelit Elizabeth was on my short list until I learned that the steam boiler must be on for their pre-infusion feature to work.
Could I get some recommendations for which machine to purchase? Got a niche zero but using a Sage duo temp for 5 years. Budget is around £1000-1500. Have been looking at Rancillio Silva pro x, Profitec 400 (maybe with added flow control) or 500 and Sage/Breville dual boiler. I make 1-2 cups in the morning and make milky drinks in the evening. Would appreciate some recommendations/overall best pic!
I‘m kinda torn on the looks as well. I do like the simple and elegant lines, but for that price I would too prefer something a little more… But features and all together, it is probably the best all around machine in it‘s price catagory.
In terms of the quality of the coffee, would you say it's worth spending the extra $$$ on buying for example the ECM Sychronika which is priced much higher?
Hmmm....quick read thermometer in the cup... is there a rule of thumb for in-cup temperature relative to grouphead temperature? I have a thermapen I'd like to do some testing with.
I got the Rancilio V6 brand new because I intend to use it multiple times a week for years to come. It's design is very boring and square but it's the kind of machine that doesn't care because the espresso comes out great. Pre-infusion would be a nice touch however I don't want to pay an extra $1,000 to upgrade when a large reason for home espresso for me was to save money from buying at specialty cafe's.
I don’t understand why they haven’t yet changed the drip tray design. It has been identified as a quirk in most (if not all) reviews, from the original Silvia to the newer versions. It should not be an issue at this price range.
Would you say PID is really worth it? Also, what about PID in HX machines? Someone told me PID control isn’t worth it, as long as it’s stable. Have also heard some say PID in an HX is not as beneficial, and that a dual boiler with no PID would be better option. Been debating between Bezzera Magica PID (or similar) vs the Silvia Pro X. Thoughts?
I would like to ask the community- I would like to upgrade my machine from the Breville express to something high end. I heard a lot about this brand. Should I pull the trigger on this and walk away or is there something else I should look at? To be honest this is a rabbit hole that I can’t seem to find my way out
Looks are subjective, but I am not a big fan of the Silvia looks since it looks more like home appliance but built more like a prosumer product, which gives an odd feeling of inconsistency... But I have always been fascinated by the value Rancilio offers on their Silvia series.
I actually really like the understated, minimalist appearance of Silvias.
I generally do like that style, I mean I love the Linea Mini, this one just for me is just too far in that direction.
I was going to say the same thing. I like the simple, classic style of the machine.
The style doesn’t overwhelm me, which I like.
@@Sprometheus will be awesome to do comparison with pro x and ECM Synchronika
I find it understated, which is better than overstated or odd looking. However, it presents a very industrial look that isn't aesthetically appealing to me. It was designed as if it were just going to sit in the back of a kitchen of a restaurant, so it needed to look sturdy, but not elegant or beautiful in any way. It's the only somewhat downside to me of this machine. I'd rather it look more elegant in my home kitchen.
I love the utilitarian look of the Silvia, personally. I think it looks great in a kitchen compared to a highly stylized Breville machine.
A Breville is an appliance…not an espresso machine.
@@ccuellar6212 Another comment from someone that is trying to discredit Breville. Yawn.
@@giodc8599 Breville is a great appliance. 😘
@@ccuellar6212 Dude, coffee machines ARE appliances 🤦♀️
Breville is not what it used to be. Even their fancy looking expensive microwaves with nice handles have issues just after warranty expire. There are many issues with firmware too.
Not all coffee machines need to come with a no fingers policy. The lack of chrome is a bonus in my opinion. The design is classic and you don’t mess with that if you want to keep your audience.
One thing worth mentioning is that a full pressure flush/purge is required for soft infusion to work properly before inserting the portafilter as the group head needs to be fully saturated. Otherwise water will just drizzle from the center onto the puck which can lead to heavy channeling. I almost gave up on soft infusion until I accidentally found out about that but I still find it a bit stressful as the gap between flushing and starting soft-infusion shouldn’t take longer than maybe 3 seconds, otherwise the saturation is gone and drizzling happens again…
Rancilio’s ‘soft infusion’ is somewhat different from traditional pre-infusion. The intended goal for those few seconds is not necessarily to fully saturate the grounds, but rather to partially empty the coffee boiler so that when the pump engages it takes longer to fill the boiler and reach full pressure, aka a soft pressure ramp. The longer the soft infusion the longer the pressure ramp. To take full advantage of this feature, the group should be purged for about 3 seconds prior to pulling a shot. Hold down the brew switch until it reads ‘F’ (stands for flush), then start your shot cycle. When compared to shots with no soft infusion, I did find that the soft infusion mitigated the channeling issues I observed in the full pressure shots. Overall, I think it’s a useful feature.
you opinion between lelith elizabeth and the new silvia pro X ? i can t decide :D , thanks !
was it tastier?
I’ve owned a Pro X since December 2021, an upgrade from Gaggia Classic. I think Spro is right on target here. It’s a fantastic machine and I love it. I have nothing bad to say about it. The drip tray doesn’t bother me. The minimalistic design suits our kitchen aesthetic, so it is a win for me, ticking all the right boxes, especially in terms of functionality and reliability. Highly recommend this. Great review Spro, I was so excited when you reviewed my machine.
As long as you are smarter than the drip tray…you’ll be okay.
Hows the milk steaming capability?
@@surepho9796 I consistently make tulip stacks, rosetta, ripple hearts, .. like any machine you’ll have to learn the way through working with it and dialing in your method. For me, I have had no problems at all. The duel boiler is great. I can pull great tasting shots back to back without an issue.
@@ccuellar6212 true! I haven’t had a mess yet and it has been around 9 months. I’m sure you can get an aftermarket float indicator for cheap, but I didn’t even bother. I’m pretty meticulous with what I’m doing. I can see how it could be an issue for some. Admittedly a strange design for a drip tray but definitely not a deal breaker for me and I’m very pleased with my decision.
Is It a big step up over the GCP. I just got the GCP and find it very clumsy to use with limited space , the steam wand is not so user friendly also. I know you can get good steamed milk on it with good technique but these things bug me, obviously the dual boiler is a big upgrade. I guess what I mean is how do you find daily use on Silvia X and are shots tasting better,,glad you made the change etc, thanks
I have had one of the early early models for almost 20 years. No frills. Single boiler. Looks almost the same as the most current model, so they obviously haven't changed the manufacturing process for most of the machine. I added a third party PID years ago. It's never let me down. I wouldn't use it to entertain guests who all order cappuccinos and lattes - single boiler sucks big time for that - but for a couple of espressos or coffee drinks daily, it's gold. And it was priced way lower than what you have to pay today for a much more advanced machine, of course. I love my Silvia.
Very good summary, I have the same thoughts, and a similar electronic thermostat modification.
Only bad thing I can say is my chassis is a bit corroded, after 5 years of almost daily use.
@@daniel635biturbo My Silvia got a simple mod from a 3D printing website wich extends the opv outlet to the drip tray just a bit. Since then all the water ends where it belongs to.
I purchased the Pro just as the Pro X was released and got a great clearance deal. Yes, the look isn't the best, but I only care about workflow and results, and I think the Pro 100% delivers, especially for the price. Not sure how many other dual's can do what it does for that price-point. I wasn't too concerned with paying almost $1,000 more for the X just to get pre-infusion (the pressure gage is nice to look it, but ultimately doesn't really do anything). I've heard these machines are pure workhorses, and will last forever if properly maintained. Love it.
We upgraded to one of these machines when our Breville/Sage Barista Express gave up on us. We also got a Niche Zero, so quite a change. But it was worth it with much better coffee and much, much more consistency. We love both the new machines. Yes the drip tray design is not perfect but it's just part of the routine to empty it, just like topping up with fresh water. I like the design but am a "substance over style" kind of chap. I'm surprised you didn't mention that the pump runs at 9bar straight out of the box, unlike most similarly priced machines. Being in the UK meant that it was shipped direct from Italy, which was pretty straightforward. So in case you haven't worked it out, it's a big thumbs up from me!
I’m very happy with the Silvia pro x, been using for 6 months, solid workflow and easy use. I didn’t enjoy setting the “wake up in x hours” so added a smart plug to power up before I wake up and it’s ready to use everyday. The back flush process with the cap is a bit odd and I think I’ll buy a blank basket for easier maintenance process. I prefer the clean look and design over other machines with more ornamental and unnecessary designs.
I’ve seen a lot of reviews complaining about the drip try, and while I agree the lift out isn’t the best, I haven’t found it an issue as it doesn’t require frequent emptying unless you’re flushing the group head into the tray frequently, even regular maintenance doesn’t fill it much so this just isn’t a problem during normal use.
I recently purchased a moded V1 and I absolutely love it. The minimalist design makes it look great - it just sits charmingly in my kitchen
I've also got it for a fraction of the price of the pro x, and I have 75% of what the pro x offers 😍
The background is just like a paradise for coffee lovers
Haha, well that’s good cause the stuff in front of me is just a wall and some boxes and storage. Not nearly as fun to look at
I just got the Silvia today. Was looking for the most basic machine to mod. By modding the Silvia you can get preinfusion, pressure profiling, and also build a built-in scale. With the mods, this machine would be far better than machines that cost 3 times more. Bear in mind that due to small boiler, it makes an excellent machine for brewing 2 cups at a time.
Thanks for this review! I hope to get my hands on one of these someday.
Of course! Thanks for watching and it’s definitely a solid machine to aim for!
Great review, but it wouldn't be a Silvia if they changed the design. I love that it carries its heritage with pride. The only problem is that they're so reliable that you only ever need to buy one. I've got a 2016 5e, and it is still perfect. Would be nice if they sold upgrade kits.
I generally agree. However, I would love to see a new design from them. Perhaps I would have chosen to keep the Rancilio Silvias as they currently are and dop the price while making these iterations (the Pro and Pro X) with a new form factor. A redesigned drip tray, water tank, and a pressure gauge viewable by someone over 5' tall would be very welcome changes in a new chassis.
I've owned the pro (not x) for about a year now and it is an incredible machine and an even better value. I think the soft infusion would be interesting to play with but not worth the jump for me. I have heard the gripe about the drip tray several times before and I really don't understand it. This isn't a HX machine. You're not blasting copious amounts of water in to your drip tray to do a cooling flush. I make about two drinks a day and quite honestly, the water in the drip tray is usually evaporated by the next day!
I’m curious how much was the Pro? Not X
My Rancilio Silvia from 2013 had a boiler made of a low yield lead alloy, raising questions of its impact on taste but also bringing up health concerns, so great to see they switched to brass. I didn’t see this in the video but I believe the machine also offers a direct plumbing connection? The pressure of the of the direct connection could lead to some changes needed at a PID level. Also, would be great to have seen more on the build quality. Though put together with a solid steel frame, the brew-head housing was previously wrapped in a faux polished steel plastic that peeled over time. One last note, Silvias are notoriously loud and a comparison with similar machines could have been an important piece of information for those considering the purchase.
I don't know if Rancilio found a way around it, but as far as I know in order to do a direct plumb, you need a rotary pump. This has vibration pumps.
Just what I needed this morning. Calmness just rushed through my mind & body. Such a joyous feeling. All my stress has evaporated. Much blessings sent to you. One of the best videos ever!
Coming from a guy with a modded Silvia ver1 for 10 years. Its a tank... all parts available online and has been a solid performer - but "temp surfing" a single boiler sucks. I can still make an amazing latte. I can say I like the basic design because its narrower, fits my counter and the wife doesn't get on my case for spending the money on what could look like a fancy machine. The PID menus are normal for someone used to the standard Auger PID on most of those. You don't get in those menus too often once set. You make your kick ass pro-sumer latte and go to work. I'm about to buy one of these PRO x for the dual boiler alone, and I don't want to drop $5k on a linea mini...thank you for the review thumbs up.
I have had Rancilio Silvias for about 20 years - they have consistently made good espresso, but the main drawback has been how slow it takes for the boiler to warm up and having to wait. I have given one to our son, and have a backup waiting in the wings in case anything goes bad that I cannot fix. The Pro X looks like it might be a very good investment (hint for my wife) this Christmas.
I've had my Rancilio Silvia since 2018. She makes 2 cups a day sometimes more. Thought about upgrading to the double boiler Pro X, but the single boiler is more than capable of producing great coffees. Maintenance is minimal and I've had no issues with her so far. A fantastic and dependable machine. I paid around $700 +/- back then and while id like a Pro X, I can't see a better cup made for the cost of a Pro X. In the mean time. My old single boiler continues to make coffee house quality at home for pennies per serving... Silvia and Rocky also travel with me on road trips. One other thing. The drip tray has never been an issue for me an works just fine...just empty it when done. The fact that you tip it up to remove is also a non issue. Nothing will spill out.
I love my Silvia Pro, probably my favorite machine in its price range.
It does have a lot going for it in that price range. It seems the Pro has more or less been replaced with the X though. For better or worse, but it’s a few hundred dollars more from what I understand.
@@Sprometheus I think it's about $170 more, so significant but not exorbitant.
I have that single boiler base model of the silvia and I personally love it. I am used to a commercial machine at work so waiting between brewing and steaming is a bit tedious so I know one day I will get a dual boiler, since I’m spoiled from a commercial machine.. 😅 but overall no dissatisfaction from the base model!
Great review. The functionality of the machine seems lovely. I also enjoy the "German utilitarian"(???) look of Rancilio machines.
Thanks Matthew, and yeah it’s very easy and simple to use. The look for me just goes a bit too far into the utilitarian and as someone who films and photographs for a living I just tend to struggle in finding angles that really hit right on this machine.
Agree 100% Brewing espresso, for better or for worse, includes the tactile experience of the process and the aesthetics.
For sure, and everyone has balanced for what they look for in either direction as well.
Aaaaaah yes! It's so refreshing to hear an American pronounce that "C" sound as intended :D great machine in it's price range btw
Haha well I’ve heard it pronounced a few different ways, but I used the way they say it at Rancilio as I figured that was the right way haha.
Got for myself a duo temp pro and tbh for a single person and only one espresso a day this machine is almost unbeatable. Super fast warm up, very easy access for water tank and easy to clean plus makes really good coffee. Can’t say anything about Rancillio except that it has very industrial and classic design for espresso machines from 1990’s 👍
I love my RSPX. I love the basic linear look too.
It does exactly what its supposed to and my all black looks beautiful.
There are many machines that have crazy designs and pretty lights but simple don't provide what they're made for. Make good/consistent espresso.
That boxy contemporary look of the Silvia is just perfect for my taste.
I’ve owned a Silvia (v2) since 2010. Never missed a beat. These things are built to last, and those switches are still crisp today.
Only had a tiny bit of flaking on some aesthetic tin-like finishing around the porta filter shroud.
A good grinder is an absolute must, and without a PID (can be modded on an old one or included as is here) you have to become pretty good at surfing that boiler temperature by feel. But overall this version looks like it solves most of the issues in terms of workflow with previous generations.
Now the only question left, is this iteration still built to the same standard and will last for 12+ years?
I find the Rancilios look much better when painted. The stainless versions just remind me of the kind of industrial kitchen equipment you would find in a hospital or old folk's home.
The pantechnicon drip tray upgrade was also very worth it alongside the bottomless portafilter.
I actually have their full upgrade set, it just arrived after I started filming and didn’t want it to just show up. But you’ll see it in another upcoming video featuring the X.
I remember almost buying this machine. It was sooo tempting. But the small drip tray and weird button functions swayed me into the Quickmill Arnos. I think the Rancilio design is beautiful though.
I’m sure you would’ve been happy with it as you adjusted to it. I’m not sure why so many manufacturers are going with shallow drip trays though.
Agree on that!
@@Sprometheus at least give us a shallow drip tray with the option to drain it through a small tube out the back to a larger container under the table.
Yeah I like the look, that chrome robot smudge magnet does not do it for me. Theatre in the cup is where I want it.
I have had a Ms Silvia for 7 years now other then replacing expendables the machine has worked faultlessly through out that time period. I do drink 99% espresso so having a single boiler works fine, (temperature surfing) and I can steam milk when I need to. I have upgraded the shower screen, silicon gasket, portafilter, insulated the boiler and rebuilt the steam valve.
I absolutely love my Pro X fitted with Pantechnicon design’s bottomless portafilter and steam knob. My only complaint is the drip tray design
See Pantechicon for the drip tray too!
Love my Silvia. I have had the same one for 8 years, a single boiler with an aftermarket PID. The thing is a tank! It is still performing as though it was its first day out of the box. That was the main reason why I invested in the Silvia as they are touted to have a long lifespan. I have been using it everyday to make anywhere from 2 to 4 cups of espresso (ultimately americanos). If this bad boy every does go down, another Silvia will be at the top of my list due to its features and longevity!
Same experience almost word for word. Finally, it's time for a new machine (I have to move the wires under the hood to heat the machine before use...just a wiggle but it's a sign of age) and I'm looking at the updated models as I work towards making my decision. Rancilio Silvia is the leading machine at this point.
i have the version 2 since 2005 ish. i changed the portafilter gasket once!! thats it nothing else. for upgrades i bought some ims baskets and a potrafilter. downside is the lack of temperature stability especially with such a small boiler, it needs a pid
I've had mine for about 2 years now and its worked flawlessly without any issues No Error Codes or Overheating Issues. I'm making great drinks in less than 15 minutes. The only annoyance is when you empty the brew and steam boiler and store it for a month the plastic pipes got moldy this happened to me in the peak of summer when temperature outside was around 95 - 100F. It was hard to clean it out thoroughly so I purchased new pipes online for like 6$ and it took me about 30 minutes to replace both pipes that are in the water reservoir. Other than that the machine is solid. I've made 2-3 drinks for me and my wife everyday for 2 years and also occasionally drinks for 2-4 guests and it has worked flawlessly. Dual Boiler, Dual PID and Dual Vibratory Pump works without any issues. I wish the steam wand was burn proof and the drip tray design is kinda odd but other than that a solid machine. Feels like it will last a decade or more if you maintain it regularly with back flushing and good water. Hope this helps.
I like the look myself, especially the black one. Looking at a Silvia as it's durable, reliable, and, most importantly, locally repairable.
Thank you friend.
Of course! Thanks for watching and have a great weekend!
I’ve owned the v3 and v5E single boiler Silvia’s. These machines are solid and consistent and really seamed to kickstart the “prosumer” market off. I worked my v3 to death but the black sub chassis of the v5 is rusting badly now. I’d be shopping elsewhere for a replacement except for Rancillio moving to Inix steel on the latest frames. The Pro X is priced more keenly now so might make the leap to a dual boiler.
OMG they still have not fixed that bloody drip tray issues after all these years! Like seriously this is such an easy thing for them to fix. Anyway this was a very good review !
As long as you are smarter than the drip tray…you’ll be okay.
Our 2006 vintage Silvia has needed some major repairs (all DIY) but has cranked out about 5,000 mostly triple shots in those 16 years. New steam valve, overhauled (leaky) boiler gasket, and just recently a new pump. I'm about to get the Auber pre-infusion PID kit for it, as temp surfing is tedious. Consistent water temp is worth the extra cost. But wow, it makes great espresso with practice.
I was waiting for this! That's it settled then time to place an order.
What would you recommend between the Silvia Pro X and the Profitec Pro 500 heat exchanger with PID and Flow Control. I cannot decide between the two. I am upgrading from a Gaggia Classic pro. Thanks for the video. Very Helpful.
Just wanted to say I just discovered this channel through J-Hoff, you are great dude keep it up! 🙌🏻
Great review. Seems like a really worth while machine but it absolutely looks like a plain jane kitchen appliance. I agree
I have had a silvia (pid'ed) for about 20 years (breville last 16mths, boo) so I am a fan. Since I am pretty much an espresso drinker their is not much of a draw for the second boiler, but for that money I would just like some fancier sheetmetal and knobs. Espeically strange when you consider that an Italiian standard is "Styling is not that much more expensive than ugly". Or something in that vein.
I just bought a new Silvia M, to replace our 19 year old Silvia (first gen). I was looking at the Pro X, but just couldn't swing the extra $1k for dual boiler, PID, and other bells and whistles. But after getting a new Silvia M, I wonder ... It might be nice for you to address the difference between the two machines, to help someone like me (in the future) to decide which way to go and if the Pro X is worth the extra wheelbarrow of coins.
My gripe with the new Silvia M, is that in four days, I have thrown away about 12 pulls, and drank two. I'm using the same Rocky grinder, same Cafe Umbria Gusto Crema beans, and the coffee is not worth drinking. I have adjusted my grinder with increments down to "6" on my grinder. After 19 years of enjoying my setup, I find it difficult to understand how everything I was doing, immediately went south with the new Silvia M. Even with everything else dialed in and tested (one change at a time), I'm getting shots pulled at an average of 14 seconds before the light comes on. My wife has accidentally, had two experiences where the pull was in spec, closer to 30 seconds. I contacted Whole Latte Love days ago about this and haven't heard back. So I'm not pleased there. I bought my previous machine from them as well. Anyway, not to be a complainer, my point is simply that beginners should steer clear of this machine unless it offers easier control over the M model. Otherwise, there is the potential for hating the machine. If the Pro X solves the issues I'm having, I would have to seriously consider if I'd pay the extra money.
I have a suspicion the PRE-INFUSION settings being hidden in the last menu item is just a way for Rancillio to save on some extra work and testing - it's an -addition- to the menu that was otherwise functional and programmed and proven. If they'd added it in a different order, re-ordering the options -COULD- always cause bugs in the future that weren't present in the 'non-X' version.
After I bought a dedica with a bottomless portafilter and a rancillio steam wand, I dont really understand what else one would need to get good coffee. I mean for 200 usd its totally unbeatable.
I've had my Pro X for about a month and loving it!
Nice! I’ve had it for a couple months now, only about a month left in the loaner but I’ve been impressed with it overall.
I wish it was bit more stylized like Lelit Bianaca with some knobs are wood and levers and stuff so it makes the kitchen look nicer.
Sprometheus, what are your thoughts on the Pantechticon portafilter and knob for the Silvia? is the tray a good upgrade or necessary?
Thanks!
its a very good review,thanks for that.I am agree with you for all.
It is no surprise to see other brands adding touch screens to the flagship modals, and that is just something that Silvia will likely never do. Functionality and control are all awesome, but if you need to reference a spreadsheet to access those functions it can be daunting and even kick the customer over to the other competition. If anything, this brand could use a refresh on the externals and drip tray design as it is simply the worst in this price category.
Excellent review, thank you. Can you please review the Profitec Go and the Diletta Mio since in my opinion are the obvious contenders of the Rancilio Silvia Pro X?
Silvia is an amazing machine i love it ❤
The temperature display normally is brew temperature not boiler temperature.
I have this model in white. I like the looks, particularly next to the white niche. Keeps the countertop from looking to cluttered. And the shots are very consistent. I'm still playing with the soft infusion.
Great review! Just curious, will my generic 58mm bottomless portafilter fit the Silvia Pro X?
Why they don’t improve the drip tray design is one of the world’s greatest mysteries and leads me to think the engineers in charge get some kind of sadistic pleasure from making it so awkward to empty.
Great video! Any chance of a follow up video on getting silky milky using that 4 hole steam wand?
Thank for the analysis. I did considered the Sylvia ProX when I recently decided to upgrade, but I am glad I opted instead for the Bellezza Bellona for basically the same features (1600$ Canadian).
Love the stainless steel dual boilers the PID, the somewhat pre-infusion, the glass water container instead of plastic, etc.
A review of yours would be very interesting. ☕👍
Just wanted to ask if you still love your Bellezza Bellona? I'm currently looking for an upgrade from my Breville and looked it up after reading your comment and this machine looks like it has the features of machines that sell for 2.5k.
Cheers! :)
@@LaMereACaniche
Je la recommande encore. Elle fonctionne à merveille.
Rancilio's build quality and customer service are solid!
I think for the price I still might go with an E61 group machine but I do think this model has a good place in the world of home machines.
Feels like it's a good beginning of a new design but to me, it's not quite there as it lacks the steam power you would expect of a dual boiler.
I would give it 6/10 ish as it's good quality and good value for the price. Cheers! -Y
To be honest, I'd rather this semi-saturated ring group thing over an E61. I don't particularly like E61s, they take a long time to heat and they're much more finicky with maintenance than a solenoid switched group.
My experience with Rancilio US has been great. I reached out and they were very kind and sent this machine which isn’t always as simple as just asking.
I think the E61 style is just that, a style and some folks like it and others don’t. I’m on the dont side of that. I prefer the saturated group build like this, the mini, etc. but both are capable of great espresso and have a place in the market.
Did you look into the Lelit Elizabeth?
At a glance it seems to have the same core features (dual boiler with PIDs, preinfusion, pressure gauge), with a more polished look and possibly better ergonomics (although there is a single pump in the Lelit, and I wonder what this changes).
It seems priced close to the Silvia Pro X in the US, but here in France it is significantly cheaper (around 1500€ for the Prox X vs. 1100€ for the Elizabeth).
The Elizabeth also has a stainless steel service boiler capable of delivering up to 4 bar of steam pressure, something you won't find on machines until you go far more expensive than that. The Elizabeth even has a feature where the steam pressure can be used to pressurize the brew water (a solenoid valve controls this), giving you full variable preinfusion. It's really an incredible machine.
I did considered those when I recently upgraded, but the Bellazza Bellonna with all these features plus a price tag of $1600. Canadian was a deal maker..
I think aesthetics is one of the main reasons people still buy E61 machines over something like this. From a capability point of view this probably crushes most E61 machines but an expensive machine is also often part of your home interior design. So a lot of people choose looks over function.
It is a price point constructed dual boiler machine. It is good for the money, but it is cheaper than E61 dual boilers for a reason. Smaller, thinner boilers. Silicone tubing throughout. Low volume vibratory pumps. And it is missing a colossal amount of brew head mass. It is a 5-8 year lifespan machine rather than a 15 year machine.
It doesn’t lack capability if you are on a personal coffee journey. But you are comparing a RAV4 to a Landcruiser.
Having said that, the dirty secret is that most people don’t actually use the capabilities of a Landcruiser, and a more modest car would do them fine.
@@nicbrownable well I guess that really depends on the E61 machine. For some that's surely the case. For other cheaper ones I'm not so sure. Also by far not all of them are thermaly stable. The need for cooling flush etc. doesn't make them appealing either from a workflow perspective (talking mostly about HX here but there are a lot of HX E61 in that price range out there). In terms of longevity I don't think this will last shorter than a normal E61 machine.
@@TheDusty0ne The Silvia Pro X is a machine with the features of a machine 30% more expensive with the build quality of a machine 30% cheaper. Don’t delude yourself. There are compromises. The inside is a mess of tubing, the electronics are directly under the boiler, and the 3 way valve/vacuum breaker runs liquid down the back of the front plate. It is built like a prototype machine.
It is priced the same as high end E61 HX machines from Profitec, Bezzera and Crem One. For a couple of hundred more you can get into rotary pump HX. These are machines with true commercial pedigree that can be repaired with off the shelf parts from multiple manufacturers far in the future.
@@nicbrownable re this "For a couple of hundred more you can get into rotary pump HX". Please dont stop and name names, your top-3 recommendations ??
Great video. Thank you for that review! I am currently an owner of a Silvia V6 and has been for two years. Sort of my “work from home Covid” purchase. I find it to be great but I am lacking a bit more features and two boilers. Thus, the upgrade might be the Pro x. I love the Italian brutal design of the Silvia (and rocky grinder). I am just curious - when you switch it on, it heats the boiler for the espresso. But do you also need to turn on/heat the boiler for the water pump at the same time? So to clicks to turn both on? Just so that you are able to brew and steam right after each other.
Thanks again :)
meI much prefer the understated look of the Silvia line. Chrome looks ugly and loud, but the Silvia's neutral appearance makes it appropriate for nearly any style of home or kitchen.
Nice review! I have a few questions: 1) So do we need to let the water run out of the group head before brewing? 2) Do we need to do back flushing after each brew? Does Pro X have an easier way to backflush? 3) how to cool down the boiler after steaming?
Thank you!
Bought it shortly after watching your video. Been in love!
I am between the synchronica and this, any ideas?
I do have the budget for the first, what you think
Love your espresso machine reviews. Did you have to adjust the opv out of the box for the silvia to brew at 9 bars?
And what’s the downside vs a more prosumer machine like the linea mini?
I can't get good foam milk at right temperature with the silvia pro x.
Nice video! 😎
Which machine do you reccomend that is reliable and looks great
Somewhat unrelated question: I love the design of your t-shirt, where did you get it?
Does it have auto turn on? Would need a clock to do that presumably. I ask, because 4 mins seems a long start up duration? Maybe in need a machine with a smaller boiler like the Lalit Elizabeth
It doens't look bad at all. black and white is simple and the best.
Where's the t shirt from? 🤩
Was going to ask the same thing. I like the coffee plant design
I’m seriously considering purchasing one of these machines. One question- does the soft infusion feature work with the steam boiler switched off? I won’t be using steam very frequently since I tend to drink straight espresso and find the energy savings appealing from just heating the brew boiler. The Lelit Elizabeth was on my short list until I learned that the steam boiler must be on for their pre-infusion feature to work.
love the review but Ive never seen you smile 😭
Could I get some recommendations for which machine to purchase? Got a niche zero but using a Sage duo temp for 5 years. Budget is around £1000-1500. Have been looking at Rancillio Silva pro x, Profitec 400 (maybe with added flow control) or 500 and Sage/Breville dual boiler. I make 1-2 cups in the morning and make milky drinks in the evening. Would appreciate some recommendations/overall best pic!
I‘m kinda torn on the looks as well. I do like the simple and elegant lines, but for that price I would too prefer something a little more…
But features and all together, it is probably the best all around machine in it‘s price catagory.
Check out the Bellezza Bellona. You might like the price & the equivalent features...
Good review. Have you reviewed the Lalit Elizabeth?
In terms of the quality of the coffee, would you say it's worth spending the extra $$$ on buying for example the ECM Sychronika which is priced much higher?
Good one bro 👍👍
Hmmm....quick read thermometer in the cup... is there a rule of thumb for in-cup temperature relative to grouphead temperature? I have a thermapen I'd like to do some testing with.
I got the Rancilio V6 brand new because I intend to use it multiple times a week for years to come. It's design is very boring and square but it's the kind of machine that doesn't care because the espresso comes out great. Pre-infusion would be a nice touch however I don't want to pay an extra $1,000 to upgrade when a large reason for home espresso for me was to save money from buying at specialty cafe's.
I don’t understand why they haven’t yet changed the drip tray design. It has been identified as a quirk in most (if not all) reviews, from the original Silvia to the newer versions. It should not be an issue at this price range.
As long as you are smarter than the drip tray…you’ll be okay.
@@ccuellar6212 not sure about that before my early AM coffee ;)
I just can't imagine having to suffer this horrible drip tray any longer. How many years? Tell my family that I occasionally considered them. Goodbye.
I like the tank style look on my 2007 Silvia but it seems out of place at the Pro X price point
Would you say PID is really worth it? Also, what about PID in HX machines? Someone told me PID control isn’t worth it, as long as it’s stable. Have also heard some say PID in an HX is not as beneficial, and that a dual boiler with no PID would be better option.
Been debating between Bezzera Magica PID (or similar) vs the Silvia Pro X. Thoughts?
one question about white color? is it white or kind a light cream color hope you understand. thanks
I would like to ask the community- I would like to upgrade my machine from the Breville express to something high end. I heard a lot about this brand. Should I pull the trigger on this and walk away or is there something else I should look at? To be honest this is a rabbit hole that I can’t seem to find my way out
Oh interesting tidbit on pre-infusion giving muddiness on dark roast
So the only difference between pro and pro x is the preinfusion feature and the gauge?
Looks are subjective, but I am not a big fan of the Silvia looks since it looks more like home appliance but built more like a prosumer product, which gives an odd feeling of inconsistency... But I have always been fascinated by the value Rancilio offers on their Silvia series.
you opinion between lelith elizabeth and the new silvia pro X ? i can t decide :D , thanks !
Do you know if you can upgrade the vibration pump to a rotary pump?
This vs. the Profitec Pro 300 ... which would you prefer?