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These are the reasons ARMY is protective of BTS .
I agree 💯 and should be continuously protecting them, coz all of this sh*t still happening even though they all proven all of this.
........and now you know why ARMY is so protective of BTS. Thank you for taking the time to watch this.. 💜
Amen!!!
V was raised by his grandparents, they were the parents he knew best. His confession that night broke me hard. I'm a soft hearted emotional old man over 60 who has survived a very hurtful life.
It's even worse than this. He spoke about it on the 49th day after her death : in Korea this is an important day. The soul can now leave and be reborn and there are family ceremonies to say goodbye. V obviously could not be there. Many of the haters fully understood the significance of the day. Truly despicable.
@Maraaha55 I didn't know that 😟, V was almost a kid then... I really can't understand why they were so mean. It is probably because of that monstrous meanness in their hearts that they will never be able to enjoy the gift of people as wonderful as these 7 young men.
hugs
@@Maraaha55 yes really nasty of them
I'm glad you found BTS and ARMY. I'm sorry for the pain you've experienced in life and hope the days ahead are much better. Sending hugs from this 64yr old ARMY. 💜💜💜
The sad thing is that it hasn't stopped! Even now, there are antis claiming sajaegi back in 2017-18, that BTS is somehow connected to some religious cult, and other ridiculous claims. They hate the fact that even though the guys are all serving in the military, they are still winning awards left and right! If they don't like BTS then fine. Go support your favorite artists and stop trying destroy others' careers. These people need to stop hiding behind their computer screens and get a life. Thank you so much, Dad, for your positive support for our beloved seven. 💜
I even saw a full video about JK being in the cult. One of the proofs is he was using a particular brand of hot sauce or chili sauce (some kind of sauce). A person could t write a believable book with the absurd accusations and hate that BTS has gotten and continues to get.
I blocked someone few days ago, she insulted BTS and she is not aware i know her twitter handle , i block her and today i told her what she did and am no longer helping with her thesis. She has been blowing my phone all day 😂😂😂😂😂
@@mamejoe2043😘👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
This sounds like they are extremely jealous that these young men worked through so much to reach their dreams, and they would rather be the mean kids.
@mamejoe2043 thank you for clapping back at that anti, letting them know that they crossed the line and they are going to pay for their behavior by being blocked and by not getting any help from you. They are happy to spread toxic energy and also happy to take from others. They need to have consequences. Thank you. 🙏🏽 💜
I'm a 62 year old Army. I love BTS with my whole heart. Watching you cry, made me cry.❤❤❤💜💜💜💜
Hey I am 49, and I love BTS!!!! ARMY💜💜💜😍😍😍
Me too. Thank you for doing a review with this information. Sharing the good and bad of the music industry is so important. This information puts things into perspective. Nothing was handed to these boys. They have and continue to work hard for everything they get! Now they are all completing their required military service- such role models.
I'm 62 and love BTS ❤️
This is one of the many reasons why we ARMY are so protective over our BTS!! They are such humble people and they do not deserve any of this hate and backlash.
No, not one bit. Light will always win over darkness & our BTS are pure light.
That burger incident with Jungkook literally scared me for life. Tore my heart out of my chest and made me ugly cry. Jokes on every single person in that video. They could only dream of JK offering them a burger now. But I still to this day want to run to that younger JK and just wrap him in love as he tries to understand the ugliness in this world when he only sees being kind...
Especially how JK hyungs took such good care of him. He has even said that since his 6 hyungs raised him, he has some of their habits, being kind, respectful and honest. How he loves to tease his hyungs. He says he knows his hyung, Suga will never reprimand him over anything.
Jin dressed like Jimin and went on stage during Jimin's sound check (against management's wishes). He said maybe he could cause confusion. But his little brother wasn't going alone. That's love.
This is a love stronger than family. My heart hurts every time I see that story.
@avamccurley5290 This is not true ARMY. 💜 They took a picture wearing the same shirt & somehow people started spreading that rumor. But it Is not correct.
The death threats are why they have to have so many bodyguards. When they're on tour they have to have between 150 to 200 bodyguards. They are so close because they've gone through hell and back together. Look what Helen DeGeneres did to them when Jim and was traveling under a death threat and she had a man jump out of a container right next to jimin on stage and scared The living daylights out of the guys and thought it was so funny.
Ah, that's actually a false rumor that has been going on. They posted the picture during April fools day and changed their Twitter profile and header to that picture. They used to do stuff like that on Twitter every April fools day
This is wrong information. It was an April fools day prank. They even posted it on Twitter & changed their layout.
Time to watch "Karma is an ARMY" for a pick-me-upper. Looooool
Yes!! What is she on 9, now, right? The haters just keep messing with KarmaARMY!! SMH
I totally agree. It's a must watch.
This man was ready to hunt down whomever in Texas would dare threaten his beloved Jimin. I’ve watched since your first video and I love how quickly you became a hardcore Jimin Stan. 😂
I don't know if he has even realized it yet. lol guess what my man Jimin is your bias. lol
I just wish he loved them all like that. I mean death threats should be way beyond a bias. I know you love Jimin. I do, too. But it’s kind of offensive to suggest you love him because it was Jimin he was so upset about having a death threat against. That should be that attitude about any of them having death threats and I would hope you would be happy if he felt that way about any of them receiving death threats.
@@G-grandma_Armytake a deep breath. He reacted just as intensely to V and RM’s threats. We don’t have to have knee jerk reactions every time one member is mentioned. This is why we have such an image problem. Let’s appreciate each other rather than looking for reasons to get upset over nothing. It was literally the ones against V that made him tear up.
I’m from Texas and every time I hear that from one of these videos it pisses me off. Jimin is my bias.
This is why Army are so protective over BTS. To this day they're subjected to the most vile and unwarranted attacks yet they remain so kind and humble.
V spent the majority of his childhood with his grandmother she practically raised him so that made it even harder. She was like his parent
Hey you are not old ARMY, just an older ARMY. IM 60, and I teared up as well. We got our boys back in all ages.
Those songs weren’t bad, but they still apologized. They were nothing compared to the lyrics we hear in the US. They did a softer song, and couldn’t name it the same, so it was Boy with Luv. If you look at the lyrics of both, you can see the difference, but still. The song War of Hormone got the most flack, but that song is great anyway. Jimin has gotten the most death threats I think. People just want to hurt beautiful kind people.
This video will do 2 things to you. Enrage you at the stupidest crap they went through but will also make you appreciate BTS more because despite all of that, they show positivity and kindness to their fans.. and to me this line in Cypher 4 shows their mentality and is also one of my favorite lines by BTS “Even though you don’t like me you know me, I like hate comments better than no comments, I don’t know you but you know my name”.
Why ARMY so fiercely protects BTS. They’ve taken enough nonsense from the world of haters. BTS wrote songs to help ARMY live well and survive this crazy world. So, when RM says, “Got ARMY right behind us, when we say so. Let’s go!”, it has so many meanings. We will protect them. But, they will, also, protect us (watch RM in interviews about ARMYs). We will follow them on their path to change the world. We will join them in celebrating life. We will walk this path together. BTS is worth protecting, loving, celebrating. 🥳 🎉
The song in question was War on Hormones which does describe teen boys Hormones. Not offensive like some songs in the Western music industry. 💜💜
As someone who grew up in the late 90’s on this lyrics, the idea that “women are a gift” and “Perfect from the front, perfect from the back.
From head to toe, perfect, perfect” are problematic and objectification is kind of refreshing. That mv is still one of my favorites.
They were pretty young, RM was 19 when he wrote War of Hormones. They had just been to LA and were literally forced to pick up girls and interact with them, which was terribly embarrassing for these Korean young men where standards are different. At the time they thought they were coming up with fun pop music, and they were. There was a lot worse elsewhere.
BTS has received so much hate from so many directions it's ridiculous. Hate toward the underdog, hate toward the talent, hate toward the success. You can see their response in Mic Drop and the Cyphers. The last (#4) of the cyphers ends with "you should love yourself!) They embarked on the Love Yourself project, giving themselves a boost as well as millions of Armies. The whole way ARMY has stood right behind them, we love them, they love us. There's even some kind of corporate bs going on now involving something from 2017. BigHit is suing with teams of lawyers. We're all reporting slander we see. The song Not Today has reached #1 (yesterday) because we're not gonna take it. Just a lot of sick, jealous people out there. P.S. I'm a 69 yo woman, feminist, and I love War of Hormones. I know how teenage boys are!!
And it was all because wrong translation. I wish people stop talking about it already. It's almost never explained why all of this accusations comes from. And it came from antis reading wrong translations and making a huge deal of it.
@@Yoonji9212If people don't talk about it and learn from it, the past will repeat itself. Do you ignore history as well?
@@kristie9144 I have a big problem with people talking about it and not explaining the whole story. They only say that BTS had misogynistic lyrics and new ARMYs don't know the whole story and are to lazy to check it. To learn something you need to know full story, not headlines from articles that don't care about facts.
And to think this is only a small percentage of the hate, xenophobia, and racism they have had to face over the years and they still get hated on today. People really have nothing better to do then to try to discredit BTS and all they do when all they want is to make music and perform.
It is. If you aren’t keeping up with current news. It is intensifying recently… while they are serving the country that just announced they are giving in to antis and going to investigate Hybe for allegations back in 2017.
These guys have been through the ringer, but they continued to push forward. I think you can understand why ARMY is so protective of them. 💜
Yup I think he understands more and more 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Hello, I'm a 47 year old Brazilian ARMY. Thank you for your reaction! I share your opinions and indignation. I remember when I first became aware of these hard hardships and struggles that our boys went through. I was very sad to come across immense intolerance and why not say cruelty in the world. The worst thing is that they still face these things today. But, thankfully the members have each other and ARMYs to lean on. I believe that this trajectory has profoundly contributed to the construction and growth of what BTS is and everything they represent for us today. These boys are not perfect, nor do they pretend to be. But they give us examples every day of humility, affection, attention, dedication and love for others. They are my daily dose of joy and encouragement. True angels on Earth! That's why we ARMYs love them so much and want to protect them. 💜💜💜
I totally agree. I am a 60 yr old, Texas Army. I have never been this interested in music let alone rap (love rapline) until BTS. What they bring to the table is something the world needs. No one is perfect like you said but we need to show respect and try to exemplify the attributes these men have been showing since the beginning when 20 or younger.
AMEN!
Anytime I see people react to there hardships I get the chills and I cry every time they have been through so much and them still being together just tells you how much they care and push through to be there for us
You're sweet, but now you know why Army is so protective of our BTS ❤
What’s sad is now that they are in the service the wolves have come out and it is BAD! I honestly worry for their mental health. How much can one person or group take. THIS is one of the main reasons BTS and ARMY have such an indestructible bond. BTS knows that ARMY is there for them.
Just in the past few months the Maknae line and RM have faced hate. RM simply posted a song and apparently people in one side of the Middle East war don’t like that person so they were awful to RM. A black person that V worked with on his solo album gave him a durag. Someone saw it hanging behind him in a live, so he tried it on for them and antis said he was being racist and disrespectful to black people. Some try to drag them into the war and have tried to get them boycotted because they haven’t spoken out. Honestly some were already in the service abs couldn’t speak out even if they wanted to. I don’t believe in shaming or trying to force people to take your side in these complex issues.
In recent months Sasaengs have bothered V and JK. One follower V into the elevator where he LIVES and presented him with a marriage license. JK has them showing up at his home, the gym and sending food to his home. I saw a tweet from someone (after JK’s album came out in November asking to get in touch with Sasaengs. He said he know things about JK’s family’s routines and where they live. He was asking for someone to SL4 ugh ter JK or his family. At the end he said maybe doing it to his entire family would be best because it would break him and be harder on him. I’m sure theee is A LOT I have missed just in the last few months, but my brain, emotions and my heart are tired. I’m telling you there is e¥il out there I was unaware of before falling in love with these seven boys from Korea. I’m just a naive Texan who never knew fandoms could be so toxic. And death threats for ANY OF THEM are an outrage.
If you want to learn about what is happening now, don’t just watch any channel. One that is fair and I believe trustworthy is Fairlane at “Asian Culture and Entertainment”. She also has a Patreon where she goes into more detail.
I watch fairlane her videos and explanations are brilliant 💜💜💜
Her videos are really good and explained thing well. Her and Boracity Magazine always come with the receipts.
Dude: the struggle is real and truly never ending. That’s why ARMYs appreciate the positivity of BTS. These men are examples of kindness and goodness in the face of constant derision. 💜
The plagiarism accusation regarding Blood Sweat and Tears was such a hit piece. The artist in question said point blank he never considered it as such and was a fan of BTS's work.
Yeah sadly as good as xCeleste's video is there is a few details that I find important to clarify left out or minimalized a bit like not mentioning the French artists speaking out days later that he knew nothing about this "plagiarism claim" the reporter took it upon himself to make that claim, the reporter was also known to work for YG Entertainment and that site is where they published the article about the accusation. He didn't think they were copying his artwork and was a fan of them. Also not translating the comment under the member of Crayon Pop's video describing how BTS were treated as that person witnessed it all and only translating Way's response to the comment. I know she was trying to be careful not to stir up the antis by mentioning names I get that but somethings were described in a G rated way that didn't reflect the real events well.
BoraCity has great BTS documentaries too ! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
The haters can just die hating and shitting lol. While Armies all over the world are cheering BTS on. The more BTS gets hate, the bigger BTS becomes. At the end BTS always win, that's why they are the biggest Artists on this planet.🥰💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Breaks my heart that the hate against them is still ongoing. Even as we watch your reaction. How? Why? BTS only want to share their music with the world! If haters don’t like their music or what they represent, then they should just ignore them and leave them alone. Why the vicious attacks and false accusations? Haters and antis are really evil people.
I totally get the anger that you felt hearing about those threats to Jimin. As a proud Texan from Oak Cliff it set off a rage in me that that would happen here of all places. We are supposed to be known as friendly people and our hospitality has been shouted from the rooftops for my whole 43 years on this earth. The threats and hurtful words to all of them hurt my soul. Those men are some of the most beautiful, loving humans i have ever seen and I will never understand the twisted thought process it takes to hate on genuinely good people.
4:32 Nesto you are so right and never apologize for talking too much I love hearing your insight
Yes. And he actually has something interesting to say.
Hi, if you want documentary content, I recommend "The Rise of Bangtan " on utube. There are 21 episodes around 30 minutes each...leading up to 2018. Its a lot of information, but the editor did an amazing job tell the stories! Love BTS💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
What is even better is that this is happening even now. Taking the opportunity of them being away and mind you doing their civic duty along w/ providing a big chunk for a group to the country's GNP accusing the same. Jealously is ageless.
BTS before they debuted were dancers, J-Hope and Jungkook danced for fashion shows and singers that needed help with back up dancers, RM and Suga rapped underground until they debuted and became an official idol group. These artists that spoke in that panel and said that BTS rappers weren't real rappers actually tried out for BTS until they found out they were going to turn into an idol group. So underground disowned them and after they debuted they were ousted out of music shows because they came from a small agency. It was very difficult to find their work in the 2013s and 2014s. So many today say "OH NO" you don't know what your talking about but the few of us in the US who really worked at trying to follow them early on it was difficult because Music Shows would not show their videos. Later Big Hit themselves would record them and show the videos.
Be aware that most of the problems come from fans of idol groups that hate that their own idol group doesn't get enough love from their fans. Even today these idols fans are again blaming BTS for Sajaegi so much so that the government of Korea is now investigating BTS for Chart Manipulation (Sajaegi).
On the Mysogyny claims Boy In Love and War of Horomones were songs that objectify women. My take on it has always been that boys see girls different than girls see girls and to tell the truth girls see boys they way boys would not like and I am sure there are songs written from a young Taylor Swift that boys would not like same with Olivia Rodrigo but because BTS was talking about girls in a way boys do they were "obviously mysogynistic which was not true.
I honestly don't understand fan wars. Like...how can you blame another group for your favs "failure"? Those aren't even failures but they make it a failure with their petty complaining. They are making their favs look bad even when they probably don't care that much. They should stop dragging their favs' name into their petty beef against BTS and ARMY.
Also, about WoH and BiL, it was exactly what it was supposed to be. It wasn't inherently bad towards women, it was teenagers' pov towards girls - an honest view on teenage boys' minds. Boys are rarely lovey dovey, that's just how it is. They never were anything but gentlemen when around girls and actions speak more than words.
And about the recently resurfaced sajaegi accusations... I'm not a fan of complotist theories but we have to admit that the timing of this whole ordeal is comical
The SK government thankfully aren't investigating BTS that's a false story however what is true someone used the SK government website that all SK can use and put up a petition which The official had to acknowledge it had been received but that's all and they didn't say they will do as the petition wants. In fact they couldn't if they wanted to as one of the 2 petitions have has already seen the inside of a court and BigHit/BTS were proven innocent and even if that court decision hadn't already been made it's past the time they can investigate it again. The second petition by same pearon was to remove their Cultural merit award which they government aren't even considering doing. So don't worry the idiot who posted the petitions weren't be getting his way. lol
Not sure if it is intensional or not, but your comment is misleading. It makes it seem like JK and JHope had dance experience and mentions nothing about Jimin being a trained dancer. JK had no dance experience before becoming a trainee. Jimin and JHope did.
The group as a whole danced at fashion shows.
JK was not trained in dance. Jimin was, as well as jhope.
The recent accusations were proven false and were spread by a "journalist" looking for clout.
@@G-grandma_Army not trying to intentionally do anything but I will reference 2 videos 1 Jokwon"s (used to be in 2am)"I Da One" both J-Hope, Jungkook and Jin, V (non dancer) were in that video and Glam's Party that had 4 dancers of BTS and so it was J-Hope, Jimin, Jungkook and Suga because as they were very poor at this time they needed money to eat. They also danced at Glam's Inkigayo performance, as well as Jo Kwon's performances. Pls understand I say things that I know, for information purposes I don't lie.
I love the camp fire and bug analogy.
They're still getting 💩 and hatred which is ARMY is so protective.
And they are hated in some quarters because no one else is doing things they're doing, even while supposedly out of commission in the military. This week, ARMY was upset about something going on with them so we charted the 2017 song Not Today to #1 on ITunes on more than 60 countries' charts. People thought they would be totally inactive while they were in the service so that other artists could have opportunities to achieve more. But they are still releasing music they finished before they enlisted and ARMY still care, so we're all just still pissing people off.
LOL I love ARMY, we can be petty and bratty sometimes but usually only in response to someone else's antagonistic behaviour. Not Today at #1 huh, that's awesome!!😂😂💜
Who you telling smh to this point, the petty jealousy is just out of control
@@kearycemoore2256 Agreed, it is caused by others' petty jealousy but we can dish it just as effectively ... or am I misunderstanding you? Lol
@donitapolk9413 oh no you ain't misunderstood nothing lol
It's ironic that you're watching this just as BTS is yet again going through more of this shit as we speak, while they're enlisted and can't fight back. It's all so exhausting. It's so true that the bigger you are, the bigger the target.
jhope has a 6-episode documentary, HOPE ON THE STREET, on Am@2on about dance. I wanted to mention since you first brought up your B-boy background. It touches upon popping, locking, house, breakdancing, etc. It's so worth the watch (on your free time).
I think he would love it.
The notorious burger incident makes me want to cry to this day! Jungkook, poor baby, wanted to feed everyone and they basically said it looked like something they wouldn't feed their dog. He wanted to cry🥺🥺. Fast forward to when BTS ruled the universe and those men officially apologized to JK. AS THEY SHOULD. BAM!
They had haters before they were anybody and have been fighting these battles from day one.
I’m a toddler army. I just discovered that jungkook clip and it’s heartbreaking. They’re only nice to him now bc of his status. Also, I love “war of hormone” and as an Asian American woman, I’m not offended at all. Definitely recommend adding that to your list.
At the time, jk did not have a lot of money either....they were really insulting.
They are not nice to him today… oops… I think you mean the talk show…antis probably attack him more Han any of them these days because of JK.s success.
I never felt you more than when you we're screaming and asking why anyone would think of sending death threats to jimin. We, too, are still wondering why. He didn't deserve it. They don't deserve it.
I was going to say… NONE of them deserve it and the outrage should be for each one. They are no less important or loved (by most f us).
@@G-grandma_Army but it was just RM, V and Jimin received such threats and so he was outraged for them only. What are you saying? Of course none of them deserve such hate.
This is why there is a saying that this world is too cruel and some are too pure for this cruel world
Boy In Luv was released in 2014, and is an angsty rock song about young guys confused about how to talk to girls or how to express their feelings. They were all still very young, mostly teens, half of them still in high school and the song is very age appropriate. The MV is sort of in their heads as they act out these different archetypes of bad boy, romantic, cool guy, etc. and has lines like asking dad how he wooed mom and so on. People (haters) objected to some of the behavior in the MV as too rough with the archetypal female love interest character, even though it was copying common tropes and behaviors in school romantic KDramas of it's time. It does look rough by today's standards, but was not at that time. Really, haters just like to pick on BTS and look for anything to attack. Other KPop groups had FAR WORSE things in their MVs and songs at the time, and no one said anything because they belonged to powerful labels.
Boy With Luv, a pop song, was released in 2019 as an answering song, and is a part of the Map of the Soul album series. It explores a more mature understanding of love as wanting to get to deeply know and understand every small thing about your loved one. It shows a more open and more vulnerable BTS, who are more mature men, comfortable with exploring their softer side. It is dedicated to ARMY.
The other song the haters went after was War of Hormone, which also came out in 2014 and is a humorous, Rock/Hip Hop song which is self-mocking about hormonal teenage boys and their shallow and confused view of girls/women. The lyrics are fun and silly and there is nothing really offensive in it imo.
Both Boy In Luv and War of Hormone are straight bangers. BTS took the high ground and apologized, though I don't think they did anything wrong. On the positive side though, they did take it as an opportunity for growth and thereafter to really vet their work through professors of feminist and women's studies...which is amazing...because, who does that??
RE: V/Taehyung's Grandma - He was raised by his Grandma. So it was really like his mother had died. He was still a teenager, and they were touring overseas at the time and so he could not even be there for her memorials with his family. ARMY was worried about him, not knowing about his grandmother but seeing him visibly grieving on tour, and so he spoke because ARMYs had been asking him what was going on. Antis are hateful people who make it their life and passion to attack and hurt the object of their obsession, so they took his statement and his grief and said horrible, awful things about him, his Grandma and BTS in general.
RE: The plagiarism accusations - they were always for stupid things like outfits, hair colors and styles, photos and concepts, etc. None of it ever had merit. As soon as they could afford lawyers, they sued everyone and never lost any cases. They have on staff lawyers to this day who are busy round the clock dealing with hate, attacks, slanders, etc. That reporter in the video bringing up years old plagiarism accusations was in the pay of another label and tasked with bringing the old and unfounded rumors up like that in order to keep them in the news cycle. The fact that they were asked about it becomes news in gossip rags and that gets spun into looking like it's still an ongoing issue, instead of long ago debunked. This video really only covers the tip of the iceberg. You have no idea. Incidentally, MANY groups have been copying BTS in many ways over the years as they got big. That's typical, as trends follow what's popular and what's selling. BTS has never complained or attacked anyone for it. It doesn't matter if people copy them, because they are the best at what they do and so they outshine everyone, and they are constantly reinventing themselves and growing as artists, so the copiers are always a step, or ten, behind.
Right this minute there is maybe the biggest firestorm of hate they have yet faced going on in S Korea, or at least that rivals the biggest, with them being connected with and accused of everything from cult affiliations and murder to chart manipulation and cheating for awards and everything else. WHY? Because a sub-label (Ador) at their company (Hybe) has an unscrupulous psychopathic narcissist as CEO and she attempted an illegal takeover of Ador to try to steal it away from Hybe, and she got caught. To defend herself, spin the narrative and distract people she threw everyone around her under the bus and threw out accusations and name dropped left and right and cried about being abused (spoiler - she was not abused. She is actually the best paid CEO at Hybe.) Part of her campaign to steal Ador (called Project 1945) was a media and PR blitz (her specialty) to tarnish Hybe and BTS and the other Hybe groups and execs, and tank their stock and hopefully get pressure from shareholders for them to dump Ador. This started last month with a rapid-fire bot farm fueled rain of online hate with BTS coming out at the biggest target. All this while they are serving in the S Korean military, earning awards, accolades and early promotions for their exemplary service, and unable to defend themselves or speak about all the hate. It seems that most of the hate is coming from bot farms out of China.
Hybe is in the process of legally getting the crazy CEO out, but it will take some more weeks for that process of shareholder meetings and court battles, and in the meantime, this storm is ongoing. To show support for BTS, ARMY is shooting the seven year old song "Not Today" up the charts. So far in the last few days it has jumped up to #1 on iTunes in 60+ countries. I am not sure if it's at #1 in the US yet. Last I checked it was sitting at #2 or 3. If we keep it going, it will rechart on Billboard next posting period later this week. We do this periodically to send messages to BTS, like how we jumped "Spring Day" which is about the grief of missing a loved one, up the charts when the last of them enlisted in the Military last December.
RE: the death threats against Jimin - They were actually rather serious and Yoongi/Suga started to dress as Jimin when they were travelling on tour and put Jimin behind him physically when they were in crowds to protect him. Even though Jimin is an expert in about 4 martial arts, his brothers took steps to protect him with their own bodies.
I'm not sure if you understood about the military stuff.
A whole bunch of music labels **NOT** including BTS's label Big Hit, went to the government to complain that they should exempt KPop stars from service or change the law because they contribute to the nation's economy and it's "soft power" (global cultural and socio-political influence.) They used BTS as their main example for this, even though they were not involved in this and did not ask for an exemption or exception and had said they would serve when it was their time. So, the other labels were trying to ride on BTS' backs to get exemptions for their own groups, so they didn't lose profits by them enlisting at the peak of their careers in their 20s. But this ploy of using BTS as their example backfired. The government said, OK, I see your point, we will grant two year extensions (so they would have to enlist by 30 instead of 28) but only to those who have won the Hagwon Order of Cultural Merit Medal/Award, the highest civilian honor for the arts that the S Korean government grants, and basically like being Knighted. But BTS are the only ones who qualify, because they are the youngest recipients of the award in S Korean history. Normally it goes to artists who have already had a decades long career and their period of military service is already far behind them. So BTS were the only kids who had yet to serve in the military who had the award. So then the companies were mad, and 26 companies filed a complaint that the law was unfair and called it "The BTS Law." Hilarious.
To add further insult to those other companies, most BTS members did not even use this special extension at all. Jin and Suga are the only ones who waited basically til their deadline to enlist. The others are all younger and yet all enlisted around the same time period so that they would get out near the same time and could get back to one another and to ARMY. No other KPop group has done this, enlisted all together, unless they were all exactly the same age and had to enlist at the same time because they were all due. But enlisting years early in order to get back to their group and their fans has never happened before. Not only that, they are serving with distinction, earning honors and awards and early promotions, and some of them are in some of the hardest units in the military. V went into a black ops counter terror unit and was complimented by the S Korean president on his sharp shooting. Jimin went into artillery fire control, usually reserved for math and physics majors because of the intense calculus needed to perform those duties, but Jimin is well known to be a math genius. He is also serving under a Companion Soldier/Buddy System with Jungkook, meaning they are always together. So although we know that Jungkook is serving as a cook, a skill he really enjoys, he is also most likely doing support duties for Jimin in fire control as well, and both of them also just completed a very intense training with the US Marines in S Korea. Jin and j-hope were both made training instructors and commanders and both are now Seargents. Suga ended up with a civil service job because of his old shoulder injury and surgery and is a regional manager somewhere. RM surprised us and went into the military band, playing the saxophone. Jin returns next month (!!) and Hobi/j-hope is back in October. The rest will return in summer of 2025.
I had so much adoration for BTS before reading this comment but after reading it I have 10 times as much because it made me proud of each and every time I've corrected povs with actual facts and not just personal opinions. The older I get and I'll be 80 in July the more emotional I seem to get. I can't help but speak up for BTS. Someone remarked to me "why do you always take a stand for BTS" and I told them some reasons are personal and if everyone thought like that then they surely would fall so if my opinion and educating people can make a difference I will continue because I believe if one person can make a change imagine how many others will be affected. I believe in the trickle down theory it works. Again as I usually do I am reminding haters to keep going because you are wasting your time here I WILL NOT BE INFLUENCED by your lies and nonsense! I love my BTS and will take a stand for them.🌹💜 x7!
This is the exact reason why ARMY'S are really protective over our BTS💜💜💜
And it's really sad BTS are still going through same hate train right now. Even after their so much hard work, the country itself was against them where the members are serving that country. Please army, we have to do our best with Namjoon's upcoming single and album RPWP.
The worst thing about that radio interview was they were invited there to celebrate their 1 year since debut....And then were ambushed by haters
This! people often forget that or just didn't know, they were invited there only to be blasted. Bang Pd was pissed. You've got grown men ganging up on teenagers during an interview, pathetic.
Like RM and Suga said, I rather get hate comments than none, atleast we are getting noticed. And as we all mention, karma is a Army! Hate as you may and don't wish for their downfall as they will only rise.
Not only from their past of being bullied and looked down... thankfully our boys grown and learned from to be that voice for others who have faced similar hardships. This is why they help support others who may be facing the same issues... I'm so glad that they can give a voice to those who may have suffering and more than that, use their musical talent and influence to show self love! ❤💜💜
Boy in Luv was a depiction of that hotblooded kind of love that schoolboys will show. It was kid stuff, but people were looking for reasons to hate on BTS. Later they wrote and performed Boy with Luv to show what mature versions of love looked like for young men.
Exactly. They were looking for any reason to attack them but the sad thing is because they have a lot of antis that like to pretend to be army (cosplayers) like wolves in sheeps clothing, the members especially RM thought he really hurt some fans or disappointed them. He is a very introspective person and emotionally intelligent, he grew from the experience because he really thought on the subject. Many easily would have gotten defensive or thought they did nothing wrong be he wanted to have someone objectively look over his work in case he wasn't seeing what everyone else might be seeing. Korea is a very conservative nation with patriarchal views and at the time army was mostly female, the last thing he wanted to do was hurt army.
I’m so ANGRY right now that the Korean government has brought this back up. BTS is in the military FULFILLING their HONORABLE DUTY and cannot defend themselves. Do these kind hearted, giving, respectful, humble, forgiving, loving young men have to live their whole lives with THIS DISGUSTING HATRED & DENIGRATION? I just HATE this for them. WHY? WHY? WHY? Do people feel like they have to DESTROY others because of their WELL-DESERVED ACCOLADES?! 😡😡
The government wants to get their hands on as much as Hybe money that they can get their hands on. I don't think the SK government is happy with them starting up a USA branch of their corporation.
I know what you mean. I'm thinking maybe this whole thing has been in the works for a long time. Let me clarify:
Plant someone from a certain big name Kpop label ( you know the one he created that super group that was supposed to replace BTS) into Hybe and wait. Once BTS goes to the military and have signed a third contract, essentially legally tethering them to Hybe, THEN bring up all this BS!
Sorry had to rant!💜
@@huntressmma1822 oh my gosh…right when I gained a little hope for mankind somebody pulls a maneuver like this. I just wanna HUG BTS & ARMY. So HUGS TO YOU from this great grandmother!!
💔💔💔😭😭😭 I'm a relatively new Army and knewed only a few of this things befor this video, but never the sum... wtf. That really brokes my heart for this 7 young men knowing that there is the next shitstorm in progress.
I really don't want to refuse this barefaced jealous humans in this way, cause hate create only more hate. Why are this humans to be/act this way? I'll never understand this!
Please Army's and BTS, let's stay together, take care for each other, live our true colorful beeing and sing louder than every hate in this world might be 🫶💜🎵🎵🎵❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🖤🤎🩵🩷🤍💛💜🫰🫶
Hi Pops, as I mentioned before I'm 57-year-old Dallas native here and Army, thank you for doing this video. I feel like more people should understand who they are and what they stand for, like you mention that, no one time did the guys get mad, scream, yell or do something back to anyone who sent threats or damaged their group. They have so much class and are so very humble! Like you said RM is the most humble, nice, educated man on the planet. FACTS, how dare you threaten our Jim in!!!!!!! love your reaction, purple you!
DO NOT TOUCH JIMIN!! So cute..i love your reaction..☺️💜 I purple you💜💜💜💜💜💜!
That thing with the burgers and Jk being so young and trying to explain they weren't leftovers breaks my heart every fㅗ키ng time ! It gets me so mad 😠
I am still upset with the show host who made JK kneel on the pavement
What? Is it the same show where he brought the burgers?
These are just some of the reasons Armys will always do our best to help protect and stand up for our 7 Angel's called BTS. 💜
Welcome to the daily life of ARMYs...for more than 10 years every information that is published concerning BTS has been commented on by haters who write comments to vomit...We are called "Toxic" because we protect and defend the boys! ! The worst is that the reputable accusations ten years ago are resurfacing, fueled by these same haters who are taking advantage of the absence of BTS to try to torpedo their agency...I really liked the sincerity of your reaction...You have become a precious ARMY..Thank you 🤗💜💜💜
V grandparents raised him because V mother and father was working very hard during the weekday (farmers) but his parents would pick him up every weekend to spend time with V.
Thank you so much for reacting to this video😊. I love your reaction and you are hilarious😂. When you listened Jimin got death threat, your reaction made me laught so much ❤❤❤. Looking forward to your next reaction😊
In their current absence, Big Hit is currently dealing with renewed accusations of Saejki from the period of time mentioned in Celeste’s video. Apparently, someone presented petitions to the SK Government ministry of Culture, Sport and Tourism. Here we go again…ARMY is MAD AS HELL! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
There's no statute of limitations on that? Oh em gee, they're still trying! 🤦🏾
Min Hee Jin, the Ador CEO under Hybe publically stated she bought awards all the time w payola while employed at SM Entertainment ( for groups like EXO). She should be investigated, not bts. Kpoppies also petitioned that BTS lose their Cultural award of merit, because of these allegations. KHJ is a greedy CEO who thinks she walks on water.
i've read somewhere this sajaegi issue was brought up again to divert or cover up hybe/min heejin's mess from weeks ago.. i dont know how true this is but the nerve of those south koreans bringing that issue once again. it just feels so wrong to use the boys who are in MS just so the previous mess will die down
Oh yes we are smh
It’s the ultimate betrayal by their government just when they are serving. I also read the statute of limitations is over but they are still going to play into the antis hands. Why? I do not trust the government agencies aren’t in bed with MJH.
And that is why ARMY is their shield. We are so protective.
I enjoy hearing you share your experiences, like teaching kids and your biboy stories. Please stop and share whenever you feel the need. I am enjoying all of your video reactions. Btw, I’m a 68 yo grandma that became Army in 2015 thru my granddaughter. All members of BTS feel like my grandsons. Capri Marie is a natural copilot for you.
This was the first documentary I watched after I found BTS. It does not sugarcoat anything. The other documentaries talk more about their achievements not the fight. Thanks for viewing this.
Even then, I didn’t understand the magnitude of the plagiarism/sajaeki/break wings project hate trains until I saw an IG post from an OG ARMY a few months ago detailing (with screenshots) what they dealt with and for how long it went on. It had me tearing up. I can’t believe they are going through it AGAIN. I am somewhat shielded because I am only on IG and Weverse, but it is still equal parts heartbreaking and infuriating.
@@7Flowers1Dream Yes. They are attacking now because they know the members are starting to return. Now there will be nothing to hold over their heads like the mandatory military service. They expected BTS to fade into history like so many other K-pop groups have after service. When they have not shown any signs of slowing down, again they are on the attack. However, they do not realize BTS is so much more. COVID taught them that ARMY is there even if we could not meet in person. So, they prepared fresh content to cover their absence. Releasing new stuff continuously. I am so excited for next month. Jin will be back, and I just love his voice. I cannot wait to see what he will release for us. Stay strong. They will not break BTS or ARMY.
If you're angry and frustrated watching this then you understand how protective we are of them. Imagine having to live through this shit real time. Some of these times were dark and hard, but BTS stayed strong and army stayed strong. We got through it and we always will. 💜
Whenever i remember there story and hardships I literally cry
Bts is still going through these issues today still after gunna be 11 years coming up it's ridiculous and army is getting pulled into it as well.
It amazes me how these guys perform no matter what hardship they are going through. They wear their hearts on their sleeves and that's why we love them.
The song War of Hormones was about young adolescent boys discovering girls which is a natural physical occurrence due to puberty. I a grandmother and I personally thought the song was cute and correctly portrayed teenage boys. I even used the song to talk about hormones to my granddaughters. 💜
Happy suggestion song made by DT Parker - Mochi La La La' THE JIMIN EFFECT💜
Lol!! Yes, from the vault ...
Sir....I have a son older than you. I am a grandmother and a great grandmother. I want to tell you that I'm so very proud of the Father's Heart that you show here. You have a very good soul. I love many groups and music artists. BTS, Dimash and Forestella are a few of them. I am a white American lady. I wasn't going to comment at first, then saw your heartfelt tears for V. I was extremely close to my own Grandma who suddenly passed away when I was in my early 40's. I miss her to this day. Like yourself, it hurts my heart to see people being so vicious to one another. Again, thanks once more for, BEING YOU! Hugs from a Grandma in Las Vegas! 🥰😘
They were out of the country when Vs grandma past suddenly. His grandparents raised him. His one wish was that she could see him on tv or see a performance. He was heartbroken away from family and trying to perform. Fans noticed how sad he looked so he tried to explain. There are evil people out there. So sad
Unfortunately the threats to Jimin and V are constant.
Harassment is repeated, this year V informed us that a stalker appeared to him in the elevator of the building where he lives. JK asked on Weverse not to follow him to the gym. We are currently in the midst of a harassment campaign planned and paid for by the CEO of one of Hyve's labels to attack Bangtan. Campaign supported by the SK media. So you will understand why we real ARMYs are very protective of Bangtan and do not support other groups.
The Korail employee who looked up RMs personal information and helped her friends book seats next to him on the train was reinstated AND reimbursed the wages she loss while suspended. They claimed other employees in the past who looked up ppls information w/o permission didn’t get fired so it wasn’t fair to fire her just because RM was a celebrity.
The way these ppl treat and harass all the members is truly disgusting
This is why we are so protective of our boys. Nobody deserves the treatment they have received and are still receiving.
If you want to watch more docu style stuff I DEFINITELY recommend Rise of Bangtan, it's a 21 episode (so far) documentary made by a fan and it includes cultural information about Korea at the time, interviews with other kpop and music people and insights into each member and their lives during each album or chapter in BTS' story. We army love it and we will watch along with you. There's also a documentary released last year on Disney+ and some behind the scenes documentaries for tours and album making like Beyond the Star, Bring the Soul, Burn the Stage, Break the Silence (you get the picture 😂)
War of Hormones is a great song!! It's not misogynistic at all! You will definitely want to react to it. It just fun! Very normal boy seeing pretty girls. 😍
I love watching reactors learning about their hardships and then coming to the understanding of why we are so protective! Thank you for doing this!
Now you understand why ARMY is so defensive for our boys. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
I felt the same thing when I became Army 3 years ago
This is why their music always have meaning!!! BTS is always about the bigger picture!! They will never have an end to haters that is why Army across the world is protective of these 7 Kings !!! 💜💜💜🤟
As I’m retired now, I am slowly buying all the older BTS CDs.
I'm a 73 year old woman I can relate to these pain over the loss of his grandma ♥️
As hard as this is to watch the actual payback is that all the awards that these amazing artists have prove what Army’s have known all along-such talent and hard-work pay off in the end. They are all millionaires several times over and are how old? Like Suga says bring on the hate-it makes them work harder. The bond between BTS and Army is like no other and if you aren’t Army you will never understand because it is so unique. I say again-all of their awards speak for themselves. The sad part is that they are such genuinely good humble men that they would never say anything against another group or artists. These are just a small number of reasons Army will love and protect BTS.
Welcome to learning what we as ARMY and BTS have been through. People think it's all roses and sunshine but we have been through hell and never left their side.
My favorite docu series is the Rise of Bangtan. It's a fan made docu series and it's very good. It has 23 episodes about 35min long. It's very in depth and detailed. It's uses clips , interviews and vlogs and edited to tell the story of BTS.
4:30 and im already crying. How many times have i watched this? Yes!
Even now, in 2024, it's the same thing... people call us crazy for how much we defend the guys but it's because we've dealt with this kind of hate against them since the very get go. RM always took the brunt of the international hate; he would read the awful things said and only translate the good for the other 6 members, so they were more protected for a while.
Celeste is very amazing for all the videos she's put together over the years for ARMY.
The rise of bangtan documentary created by army is by far the best documentary. Please watch it!
Yes... this is why Army are overly protective of BTS and always will be... people have no idea of what they faced and still do to this day.... Thank you for reacting to Rosan's (xCeleste) video... she is awesome and we love her work. A lot of other groups and their fandoms did not want BTS winning awards or taking spots on the music shows.... so it became an absolute hate onslaught at times... I say this all the time, but I will be forever grateful to those KArmy who were there from before debut championing for our guys and keeping them on the shows to be seen by supporting and voting for them. I've been Army since 2014 but those guys were there from when the boys were trainees.... We would not be having this conversation without them. 💜
No need to apologize for talking ''too much'', it's a reaction after all and we want to hear your input, what you think about the guys and how you relate to them the same way we relate to them. It is great to see you react to these kinds of videos and not only music, because it shows that you want to learn more. So many react to the songs without any context that it feels like they just want views by using bangtang's name on the title.
Thank you for appreciating our 7 miracles, struggles and all, just like a real ARMY. Hugs from Chile!💜
They have to come through ARMY first to get to our BTS boys we are their bullet proof
Lots have already cleared or commented in great detail to help you understand even better. This one you saw is an updated version by an ARMY who does so much to inform about BTS. She did cut parts from the original so the comments help clarify even better. There is one lengthy comment I replied to thanking the person because they explained even up to now, what is going on. ARMY is protective of BTS and even now. I relally liked your analogy to the campfire and bugs too! Borahae! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🇨🇦
I think after seeing all the crap they were pushing through, it's important to watch IDOL, and see how they *chose* to process all the fertilizer that got shoved their way, and use it to radiate borahae to the world.💜
...Now you know why Army are so protective towards BTS.. This is the reason.. We always protected them. We are protecting now..and we always will protect them. No doubt about it
The fact that in the hamburger scene..Jungkook was a child. He was only 19 :(
He was without his older brothers aka the members for the first time in a show and the hosts took advantage of it
No matter how many times I watch this video, I cry every time... I can't understand why other fandoms and antis hate BTS and ARMY so much. If I wasn't depressed and I had the mental strength I would go to war to defend our 7 kings! I would not lower myself to the level of these haters but I would make sure to reestablish the truth. Everyone made fun of them and their name, no one believed in them except for a handful of people at the time. Today, they are known and recognized all over the world! They appeared in my life a few months ago, when I was at my lowest and I can't see my life without them. They deserve all the success they have and the love given to them because they have given ARMY so much love for over 10 years. They have always tried to help and heal young people through their songs, their speeches, their entertainment. What did they do wrong that people, even today, don't want to leave them alone??? The antis have such a shitty life that they need to pour out hatred towards BTS and ARMY... But nothing will stop us, we will continue to climb these mountains and overcome these obstacles hand in hand until the end! And like Jungkook said AFBF ! 💜💜💜
Thank You for taking the time to watch how people really treated them. The amazing part about it is even though they got so much hate, the stayed humble, kind and true to themselves and ARMY, and this is why they are where they are. The don't just say they love their fans just to be saying it like a lot of artists do. They never fail to thank ARMY for their success and helping them achieve their goals. THEY ARE LEDGENDS AND HAVE EARNED EVERYTHING THEY HAVE ACHIEVED THROUGH HARD WORK AND DEDICATION!
Why Army will forever be protective of our 7 normal boys from Korea. Army just not only love their music, we love how they remain respectful, kind, honest, hard working, how they can have fun with just each other! How all their personalities together create spontaneous funny situations. I always say they are our natural comedians. How they remain true to themselves. Have run into how each of them donate funds to scools so all will get a lunch? Or funds donated to help create scholarships for the students that would not be able to attend school otherwise? There's more. Army in India, created something to help them collect plastics/garbage from the ocean. This wonderful Army did this and gathered plastics/garbage for Jungkook's Birthday! There are many Army out there that do things like this on birthdays of their bias. They said they were inspired by our 7. To make the world a better place. Our 7 inspire Army. Worldwide. How BTS brought back many a person from sinking in depression. Those Army say their doctors were no help. It was BTS that saved them. Mine was grief. That's when I found them. Suga said " if you weren't here for our debut, when you found us, that's when we debuted for you." Only someone without a heart would not fall in love with them and all they do. BTW, I am in later 60's, in Grandma Army. Will always be Army. Especially after V at one concert, yelled in his microphone " ARMY! You belong to us! Army belongs to BTS! " And Army screamed " YES!"
The misogyny accusations were mostly from the song War of Hormone because it was viewed as objectifying women. It's actually one of my favorites from their Dark & Wild album but I see all the posturing about girls as just an accurate reflection of how teen boys think. And honestly, as an American, it's a tremendously innocent song compared to anything you hear on US radio. But all the ridiculousness started waaayy after the album was released and I think it was just something that fans of another group dug up to harass them after they started to get more popular.
All the plagiarism and sajaegi accusations are one reason I think BTS doesn't do the payola system to get radio play in the US. They were put through hell when they were young and poor for that and now even though they could afford to pay for radio play if they wanted to, they refuse to.
99% of this has to do with jealousy ftom other groups' fans who view all of this as competition and Korean media trying to shut them out because they were outsiders from the local industry.
Have you been keeping up with what has been happening recently?
@@JerCarmanI haven't, what is happening ... I'm not on social media except YT; does this count? Anyway, what's happening?
@@JerCarman , yes, and hoping that since they are in service they won't see the worst of the current nonsense. And hoping that the new legal team sics the people spreading lies good.
I'm a new ARMY, and it absolutely infuriates me. Even now, the 7Angels are doing their military service, and people are trying to drag them down. BTS is big on inclusion and supports other bands but that does not always seem reciprocated. They want to have fun and make ARMY happy, so people just need to keep the BTS members out of their mouths.
The Rise of Bangtang...22 short videos, right up your alley😊 Thanks for sharing 🤗💜🫡
My entry into BTS was tru a hate video on YT, I was just searching and o found a video that I decide to watch and it was about this man called Jimin, and the things that where said there and showed, and the many and many comments endorsing that, was so discussing that I decide to search who that person was, and I became in love with his purity, and soul, and that’s how I found out about BTS. So, they all have Antis that trow hate at them, even now that they are away those boys are so amazing that you ether love them are hate them. But the kind of hate if see toward JM, and the words used it’s actually sick, hope you never see it cause you gonna cry. You a cry baby 😊, I love man that has no problem showing emotions, nicely done ❤❤❤
No matter how many times I see jungkook's video giving hamburgers, I can't watch it. It hurts.