Maybe a different color. I had the feeling the wood fibers were really going to skew the color. I wonder how the lighter colors actually look out of the can.
I can't wait to try this at home. I re-visit your videos and putting a "Like" everywhere. I did not know how much of a difference it makes on your side... Best regards from Québec, Canada!
I honestly don't know how much of a difference it makes either, but it's very much appreciated. Sometimes it's tough for veteran channels like mine to get noticed anymore.
For what the finish is being used for, the color is actually not bad. I agree that it is a good match for the piece. I will be following along so I can see the long-term results. Thanks for being a test guinea pig.
Thanks Marc...Great approach...you are indeed a scientist! After seeing what happened to GF Spar Varnish after a year in the sun, I've tried other outdoor finishes, and not happy with any of them yet. So, I appreciate your experimental approach. I think Ben Franklin also said "Experiment, Don't Guess!"....well, maybe not...
The wood fiber may be the emulsifier agent. Interesting product. Love your videos and the fact you just roll with it when Oreo decides to make his appearance.
I just make all of my projects out of cedar and let ‘em turn gray. I’ve grown to appreciate the weathered look. But it suits the coast of Maine better than some places.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the different finishes. Will be interesting to see what the color does if it lightens up just not a fan of the color.
My go to is sherwin-Williams exterior superdeck solid color stains. When it fades, clean with soft bristle brush and reapply. Lasts longer than any finish I’ve used. Not heard of Rubio. May give it a try. Thanks!
I had very similar results with Osmo UV oil. It actually did reasonably well on the vertical faces that don't receive sun exposure, but any horizontal surface didn't last the season. I think I'm just going to paint the next outdoor item to see how it does. Maybe linseed oil paint to try something different.
I took your word trying this Rubio DuroGrit, but I used the color "Steppe Look" instead. I also built your outdoor coffee table using Western (Pacific) Red Cedar and finishing at 180-grit. I will send you pictures before and after the one-year completed test. This color looks more like a Coastal Redwood rather than Western (Pacific) Red Cedar. I also, being OCD, finished two other 2x4 boards and applied one coat of my special sauce (mixture 1:1 Steppe Look and Foxy Brown) to each board. I hung one board vertically and the other in a horizontal orientation to evaluate this outcome. Sure, could have used a discount code.😲
Wish I’d known about this new Rubio product - as we speak I’m putting regular Rubio Monocoat (Cotton white) on a cabinet for my daughter-in-law. It’s going to be used for towel storage outside by their pool. It will be underneath a patio roof so it won’t be in direct sunlight but I’m sure it’ll be in contact with a lot of water. She wanted it to be black, so initially I put a coat of Odies Super penetrating oil on it then I had planned on going back with another coat with the odies black pigment added. That, unfortunately did not turn out well. (It didn’t come close to turning the wood black). Maybe it was because I had zero experience with Odies pigments. So, I changed strategies and decided to use Rubio’s Intense Black Pre-Color. But, like I said, I wish I had known about this new product. It will be an interesting experiment mixing the Odies & the Rubio together. Who knows…maybe thats the elusive solution to outdoor finishes…😂 P.S. Love your content Marc - I’ve learned a lot from you over the years.
Neither Precolor Easy or Oil Plus 2C are exterior products. If you are committed already, best of luck, but if not, we would highly recommend using DuroGrit instead. Saddle Black is the darkest color we offer. And would allow you to achieve a very dark black color with only 1 coat.
I cant tell if you're trying to sound like Bob Ross or if painting just brings that out of people... either way, great vid and don't forget to beat the devil out of that brush
I actually like the color o.o it looks right for outdoor furniture. Maybe that means it just looks like commercially produced outdoor furniture that I'm conditioned to? Still I like it.
I tried Penofin transparent cedar sealer stain on an outdoor piece for the first time and it gave it an orange tint, not as orange as this Rubio Foxy, but wife hates it and doesn’t want me using this again. I tried using Total Boat Gleam before that for a satin finish look, but the wife hated the smell. I’ll have to admit, it does leave the entire backyard smelling like a chemical plant, but it will eventually go away. Now I’m going to try the Total Boat Halcyon to see how that works. Just putting different brands of polys on outdoor furniture doesn’t work as they all look bad after one year. I’m lazy so looking for something that’s going to last far longer, even though it’s cost me hundreds of dollars so far. Unfortunately, the sun is brutal here during the summer, even under a semi covered patio cover.
Is this the remake of that toxic epoxy finish piece? I made a cedar picnic table for our youngest grandchildren and used that. Fortunately, it sits under a porch roof and gets only indirect sun, but, it has begun to peel. I offered to refinish it for them, but, they don’t hate it yet , and asked me to wait. I’m eager to see the outcome of this product. Thanks!!!
Have you ever tried Penofin? I just built some bar height Adirondack chairs and finished with this, it came highly recommended. Color is good IMO not sure how it lasts but the Brazilian Rosewood oil it's made from is supposed to block 95% UV rays. Time will tell.
What did you think about the finish texture? I am looking at Rubio as I'm prepping to restore 100 year oak windows, but some mentioned the texture was grainy. Did you notice a difference between this and other outdoor oil finishes?
Please let us know how the DuroGrit holds up in the sun and rain after a year or two. I'm currently having a lot of luck with General Finishes' Exterior 450 on our outdoor table. The downsides are it's a film finish so it feels a bit plasticy (but not too bad) and that it's slippery when wet. The upsides are it's clear, I've seen zero fading from UV and so far standing water on it hasn't made a dent on it after many months of hard exposure.
Longevity of finish? Cue up the Asia song: ‘only time will tell’! 👍 I think it looks great. If you’re out there with a neat tray of beverages/snacks, less blatant ‘foxy brown’, so it’s not as pronounced.
Great article in Wall Street journal today, 06/20, regarding how channels have cut funding for creators. Subscribing is one thing, but also need views. Noticed a huge ramp up in creators now selling “stuff”, who never did before. Have to figure out someway to keep the lights on!
It's NOT just UV part of the light spectrum. The WHOLE light spectrum degrades and fades materials. UV light is the most energetic and do does the most damage but all light does the same damage
Have you tried any ceramic coating? I wonder if those would improve outdoor finish performance. I hear people swearing by it for indoor applications but haven't heard anyone talk about if it works outdoors
I made your bench using cypress wood thinking it would not rt due to it's natural oils. Others say I should finish it. Which idea is correct (does cypress need to be finished)?
I hate the color!!! I am old school, I am a believer that oil based products. The oil seeps into the wood and helps with regeneration and then the lustre of the wood. I have found that water based products are paper thin and wear out quickly. Thank you for your videos. They are great, even though I may not always agree. Thanks again for all you do. I learn a great deal from you.
Hello Marc, I like your videos. But I'm wondering why you sand a piece of outdoor furniture while there are products that remove the stain and grey aspect (mushroom) from the wood without effort. I spray sodium percarbonate diluted in water on the furniture and wait about 15-20 minutes. then I use the pressure washer and all the crap disappears. I'd like to share photos and a video with you and with your audience. Thanks for your wonderful contrent.
That's almost too complicated of a question to answer as it depends on so many things, including your interpretation of the concept of "longevity". So let me generalize a bit. A marine varnish will offer more protection as it's essentially a thick layer of plastic on the surface. While more protective, there's a bigger risk factor if/when the finish fails is it will eventually peel up without regular maintenance. And once it peels it's game over and a full strip and refnish will be necessary. At the least you'll likely want to apply maintenance coats periodically, making the finish thicker and thicker each year, which i personal don't find attractive. Depending on the conditions, it could take a very long time before you have to reapply. With this kind of single coat finish, we're not building a film. The wood can still breathe so there's never a cracking or peeling finish to deal with. Reapplication should be a lot easier but you're likely going to have to do the maintenance more frequently. Should the finish ever fail completely, you're basically in for a light sanding and then a reapplication, as opposed to the crazy strip and refinishing that might be involved with a marine varnish. So there's no better or best when it comes to this stuff. Just different properties, different maintenance requirements and different appearances.
Way to orange color for my taste. Not brown at all. Looks like a bright orange (looks more like what a baby excretes) deck I painted in Florida that will probably last forever with that color.
Wanna try this stuff? amzn.to/4ce4pb3 Let me know how it works for you!
Maybe a different color. I had the feeling the wood fibers were really going to skew the color. I wonder how the lighter colors actually look out of the can.
Love the Wayne's World Easter egg 😂
Can it be used with fine nap or sponge roller or spray it?
Oh man, you got the compliment of death “It’s fine”
lol the best
Hahahaha
Hi Marc, thank you for sharing and testing out DuroGrit! Feel free to reach out if you have any questions about the product!
The Foxy dance had me cracking up 😂
I'm looking forward to see how this holds up in the future
The Foxy Dance is timeless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Foxy Dance will hold up just fine
It was beautiful.... Straight out of the Boston ballet
Marc’s experiments with outdoor wood finished make me think plastic is the best choice.
I apply Banana Boat to my outdoor furniture every 30 minutes and my finish has remained perfect.
I've found that coppertone works better for cedar. No Ad used to be the best bang for Buck, but I cannot find it anywhere these days. 😂
"Foxy"... My wife rolled her eyes at me so hard the walls shook.
I can't wait to try this at home. I re-visit your videos and putting a "Like" everywhere. I did not know how much of a difference it makes on your side... Best regards from Québec, Canada!
I honestly don't know how much of a difference it makes either, but it's very much appreciated. Sometimes it's tough for veteran channels like mine to get noticed anymore.
@@woodwhisperer comments and shares, along with the likes. FOR THE ALGORITHM!
i love that table design
That was pretty hilarious Garth!
Cat stole the show 😅
He always does!
It's Oreo's shop. Marc just gets to pay for it and is allowed to use it.
For what the finish is being used for, the color is actually not bad. I agree that it is a good match for the piece. I will be following along so I can see the long-term results. Thanks for being a test guinea pig.
You sounded more Bob Ross in this video than any video before. It was a nice calm audio.
I caught that reference. 😂 Party on Marc. 🤘
I love Oreo. Such a great name for a cat. Nice video as well. Thanks for sharing. You earned a subscriber.
Thanks for subbing!
Mark: “Let’s see what Nicole thinks!”
Nicole: “It’s fine”
Your Garth Algar impression made my day!
Nicole said it all, " it's alright." I'm not a fan of the colour, but it's better than it was.
My 4 coats of Marine Waterlox just failed after 2 years, I just sanded and finished with this Rubio product and hoping it lasts longer!
It turned out great, Marc! I really liked the color! 😃
Looking forward to the results!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks for experimenting and reviewing for the rest of us. Looking forward t o seeing the results.
I think it looks great in the end.
I'm subscribed and I do feel warmth and fuzzies 🎉
Funny, the color did look a bit better on the outdoor shot. Ty for all the info. Can’t wait for the update.
Thanks Marc...Great approach...you are indeed a scientist! After seeing what happened to GF Spar Varnish after a year in the sun, I've tried other outdoor finishes, and not happy with any of them yet. So, I appreciate your experimental approach. I think Ben Franklin also said "Experiment, Don't Guess!"....well, maybe not...
Those foxy dance moves 😂
Bahahaha the Foxy reference was GOLD!
The wood fiber may be the emulsifier agent. Interesting product. Love your videos and the fact you just roll with it when Oreo decides to make his appearance.
I just make all of my projects out of cedar and let ‘em turn gray. I’ve grown to appreciate the weathered look. But it suits the coast of Maine better than some places.
Pam Grier baby- the original Foxy Brown- bad ass Mamma Jamma!😊
Thanks for sharing your experience with the different finishes. Will be interesting to see what the color does if it lightens up just not a fan of the color.
Your comedy cracks me up 😂
My go to is sherwin-Williams exterior superdeck solid color stains. When it fades, clean with soft bristle brush and reapply. Lasts longer than any finish I’ve used. Not heard of Rubio. May give it a try. Thanks!
I like SW for their clear coats and paint so I’ll have to give that product a shot.
I can dig it…the color that is.
I had very similar results with Osmo UV oil. It actually did reasonably well on the vertical faces that don't receive sun exposure, but any horizontal surface didn't last the season. I think I'm just going to paint the next outdoor item to see how it does. Maybe linseed oil paint to try something different.
I am still a super fan of Epifanes for outdoor.
I also agree, the color isn't for me. Only time will tell about it's weather resistance. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
I took your word trying this Rubio DuroGrit, but I used the color "Steppe Look" instead. I also built your outdoor coffee table using Western (Pacific) Red Cedar and finishing at 180-grit. I will send you pictures before and after the one-year completed test. This color looks more like a Coastal Redwood rather than Western (Pacific) Red Cedar. I also, being OCD, finished two other 2x4 boards and applied one coat of my special sauce (mixture 1:1 Steppe Look and Foxy Brown) to each board. I hung one board vertically and the other in a horizontal orientation to evaluate this outcome. Sure, could have used a discount code.😲
I like how the cat just rolled up in the video without a care given, and you just roll on like its not happening either.
We share equal amounts of love and disinterest for each other. 😂
Party on Garth!
Wish I’d known about this new Rubio product - as we speak I’m putting regular Rubio Monocoat (Cotton white) on a cabinet for my daughter-in-law. It’s going to be used for towel storage outside by their pool. It will be underneath a patio roof so it won’t be in direct sunlight but I’m sure it’ll be in contact with a lot of water. She wanted it to be black, so initially I put a coat of Odies Super penetrating oil on it then I had planned on going back with another coat with the odies black pigment added. That, unfortunately did not turn out well. (It didn’t come close to turning the wood black). Maybe it was because I had zero experience with Odies pigments. So, I changed strategies and decided to use Rubio’s Intense Black Pre-Color. But, like I said, I wish I had known about this new product.
It will be an interesting experiment mixing the Odies & the Rubio together. Who knows…maybe thats the elusive solution to outdoor finishes…😂
P.S. Love your content Marc - I’ve learned a lot from you over the years.
Neither Precolor Easy or Oil Plus 2C are exterior products. If you are committed already, best of luck, but if not, we would highly recommend using DuroGrit instead. Saddle Black is the darkest color we offer. And would allow you to achieve a very dark black color with only 1 coat.
I cant tell if you're trying to sound like Bob Ross or if painting just brings that out of people... either way, great vid and don't forget to beat the devil out of that brush
I actually like the color o.o it looks right for outdoor furniture. Maybe that means it just looks like commercially produced outdoor furniture that I'm conditioned to? Still I like it.
I tried Penofin transparent cedar sealer stain on an outdoor piece for the first time and it gave it an orange tint, not as orange as this Rubio Foxy, but wife hates it and doesn’t want me using this again. I tried using Total Boat Gleam before that for a satin finish look, but the wife hated the smell. I’ll have to admit, it does leave the entire backyard smelling like a chemical plant, but it will eventually go away. Now I’m going to try the Total Boat Halcyon to see how that works. Just putting different brands of polys on outdoor furniture doesn’t work as they all look bad after one year. I’m lazy so looking for something that’s going to last far longer, even though it’s cost me hundreds of dollars so far. Unfortunately, the sun is brutal here during the summer, even under a semi covered patio cover.
Interesting chemistry
I liked the finish once it dried. Tip for your second channel: "The Finish Snifferer". Have you tried cyanoacrylate as a finish?
I see you got a Kapex again . Now you should do a video about how ya switched back from the Bosch glide. Lol
Awesome video .
Is this the remake of that toxic epoxy finish piece? I made a cedar picnic table for our youngest grandchildren and used that. Fortunately, it sits under a porch roof and gets only indirect sun, but, it has begun to peel. I offered to refinish it for them, but, they don’t hate it yet , and asked me to wait. I’m eager to see the outcome of this product. Thanks!!!
Aren’t tuxies great cats? Good info on what looks to be a more weather resistant finish.
I got the feeling that you were channeling Bob Ross on this video
on camera it appears to be a dark pumpkin. and Yet I do like the style of the table.
Well, I'm curious to know how it holds up, but at least I know to skip osmo for my current outdoor project.
Mikita’s Donuts. I miss good movies.
Have you ever tried Penofin? I just built some bar height Adirondack chairs and finished with this, it came highly recommended. Color is good IMO not sure how it lasts but the Brazilian Rosewood oil it's made from is supposed to block 95% UV rays. Time will tell.
Can’t believe you missed the chance of a Shania Twain reference 😂
The color doesn’t flip my switch, but it’s your table 😊
You may have noticed it ultimately didn't flip my switch either. :)
What did you think about the finish texture?
I am looking at Rubio as I'm prepping to restore 100 year oak windows, but some mentioned the texture was grainy. Did you notice a difference between this and other outdoor oil finishes?
Interesting product. It looks like a semi-transparent deck stain.
foxy dance moves 😁
I put three coats of linseed oil on sanded wood before I use polyurethane, and generally three coats.
Party on Garth
Please let us know how the DuroGrit holds up in the sun and rain after a year or two. I'm currently having a lot of luck with General Finishes' Exterior 450 on our outdoor table. The downsides are it's a film finish so it feels a bit plasticy (but not too bad) and that it's slippery when wet. The upsides are it's clear, I've seen zero fading from UV and so far standing water on it hasn't made a dent on it after many months of hard exposure.
Ever try automotive clear coat? Lots of guys use it for wood beds and seams to last a long time.
Longevity of finish? Cue up the Asia song: ‘only time will tell’! 👍
I think it looks great.
If you’re out there with a neat tray of beverages/snacks, less blatant ‘foxy brown’, so it’s not as pronounced.
Great article in Wall Street journal today, 06/20, regarding how channels have cut funding for creators. Subscribing is one thing, but also need views. Noticed a huge ramp up in creators now selling “stuff”, who never did before. Have to figure out someway to keep the lights on!
Have you ever tried Osmo decking oil?
Do you think that using a sprayer would coat well? maybe taking 2 or 3 passes?
It's NOT just UV part of the light spectrum. The WHOLE light spectrum degrades and fades materials. UV light is the most energetic and do does the most damage but all light does the same damage
Gotta ask. How often do you have cat paw-prints in your finish? 🙂
I don't want to suggest the color sucks. In no uncertain terms, the color sucks. I hope it serves you well. Thanks for the video.
Their product line is all over the map, as are their prices! $80+ per Litre?
Have you tried any ceramic coating? I wonder if those would improve outdoor finish performance. I hear people swearing by it for indoor applications but haven't heard anyone talk about if it works outdoors
I made your bench using cypress wood thinking it would not rt due to it's natural oils. Others say I should finish it. Which idea is correct (does cypress need to be finished)?
Is this thing better or worse than the Hybrid Wood Protector and the Wood Cream?
Cheeky Padauk look
I love cedar, but I hate when it turns silver. Oiling doesnt seem to fix anything long term.
Id like to see the follow up after a summer outside.
The saga continues 😂
What episode did you build the blue cabinets in the background? Curious about the paint color code.
6:00 Rare footage of young Marc
Are you kidding? I filmed that two weeks ago!
14:00 Bob Ross vibes
I wonder if a UV cured resin would work any better?
Do you think this would work on teak?
Is it just a semi-opaque stain?
I hate the color!!! I am old school, I am a believer that oil based products. The oil seeps into the wood and helps with regeneration and then the lustre of the wood. I have found that water based products are paper thin and wear out quickly. Thank you for your videos. They are great, even though I may not always agree. Thanks again for all you do. I learn a great deal from you.
👍👍👍👍👍
Hello Marc, I like your videos. But I'm wondering why you sand a piece of outdoor furniture while there are products that remove the stain and grey aspect (mushroom) from the wood without effort. I spray sodium percarbonate diluted in water on the furniture and wait about 15-20 minutes. then I use the pressure washer and all the crap disappears. I'd like to share photos and a video with you and with your audience. Thanks for your wonderful contrent.
sodium percarbonate is great for removing gray out of a stained deck or furniture but doesn't work so well to remove a varnish or film finish.
Ever tried clean armor?
Missed a spot! 😂
Not sure of the colour, hopefully see what it looks like next year and the second year
Have you ever tried RAKA Epoxy?
I’m gonna sand my outdoor table and refinish the top with SPF 50 suntan oil and see what happens.
How would you expect this product to compare to a marine spar varnish as far as longevity?
That's almost too complicated of a question to answer as it depends on so many things, including your interpretation of the concept of "longevity". So let me generalize a bit. A marine varnish will offer more protection as it's essentially a thick layer of plastic on the surface. While more protective, there's a bigger risk factor if/when the finish fails is it will eventually peel up without regular maintenance. And once it peels it's game over and a full strip and refnish will be necessary. At the least you'll likely want to apply maintenance coats periodically, making the finish thicker and thicker each year, which i personal don't find attractive. Depending on the conditions, it could take a very long time before you have to reapply. With this kind of single coat finish, we're not building a film. The wood can still breathe so there's never a cracking or peeling finish to deal with. Reapplication should be a lot easier but you're likely going to have to do the maintenance more frequently. Should the finish ever fail completely, you're basically in for a light sanding and then a reapplication, as opposed to the crazy strip and refinishing that might be involved with a marine varnish. So there's no better or best when it comes to this stuff. Just different properties, different maintenance requirements and different appearances.
@5:56 … woah
UV protectant for plastic, made by lloyd.
why not use a roller?
Oreo is getting a lot a camera time lately. Need some Dougie
Haha Duggee lives at home and Oreo lives at the shop. He has a big advantage for screen time.
Not First!
First thumbs up
I still see and will probably only ever see "Backsides and Paper" which has to be the name of a strip club somewhere.
Way to orange color for my taste. Not brown at all. Looks like a bright orange (looks more like what a baby excretes) deck I painted in Florida that will probably last forever with that color.