Have you tried landing with the wings swept? Would it be less likely to drop wing at a slower speed with wings swept? I know it is not the normal way, but I'm just curious.
So, I accidentally hit wing sweep instead of flaps today and landed wings swept. It came in fast and I flared to slow down and it landed just fine. Probably one of my better landing on this model. I have a problem of not having enough throttle on landing and it stalls a few feet off the ground.
Got to say Adam, Freewing make some superb foam EDF Jets!! That one looks so scale!! Dustin knows his stuff and it was interesting watching his review!! Great Job all 😀👍
Hi Adam, as I said before to you I was really looking forward to this video and it has not disappointed , was not expecting a guest review - one observation I would like to make , is that it seems a lot of these are how shall I say "Dropping out of the sky"! - chatting on forums, it sees that Motion RC have issued a video talking about an issue one might meet regarding the Gyro (not the gyro itselfs but the Elevon connections COULD be the wrong way around - the Motion RC video shows Wesley swapping these over to make the correction - so owners have attempted to correct his via the TX, but as soon as the Gyro is activated you are into a world of issues... it seems that enough of these have gone down , Due to this issue? - that the wider community thinks that Freewing and Motion RC should have made a world wide announcement and not just a video about the Gyro and almost casually talking about this.... Have you heard anything on your grape vine ? - it might be worth checking and adding an update video to clear this up a little as a lot of RC Pilots watch your channel...here is the link to the Motion RC video about it....ua-cam.com/video/N2aF5AVoeeU/v-deo.htmlsi=_ODx2oVkz2Y4unLn
Dustin here, I didnt have that issue, but another buddy of mine did. Luckily he checked the direction of the stabilizer before flight, and we found the video you mentioned. I would have never guessed that was the solution. Definitely important to check the gyro direction before any maiden flight, that's one of my personal nightmare scenarios haha.
Hey Martyn. I hadn't heard that until now. I see Dustin chimed in. He helped one of our other flying buddies Carl with one today (we flew til dark tonight). So glad you do your homework. By the time you mess with one you'll know what to look for. Yep, Motion might want to put that on the sales page. And forums, and everywhere. I agree with Dustin though...we always (should) check control direction and gyro correction direction before flying anything.
Outstanding review Adam, you guys always bring your A Game! And Dustin appears to be one of those rare and special person who is not only a superb pilot but seems to be a hellava nice guy! 😂
Thanks Adam & Dustin! ...very cool review. The F-14 is a classic among US fighters and this one looks great in the air. Thanks for sharing this with us!
Nice video and flying. The F-14 looks like a winner. I’d like to see more videos flying off grass. I did watch Rich’s. Most of us don’t have a runway. Great job!
Dustin was wringing that battery out on the performance flight! A good demo of the model’s capabilities. Did Dustin have stability turned on for those flights?
Dustin here, i did have the stabilizer on, honestly haven't flown it much without it yet. Typically just keep it on to dampen out the wind a bit. Thanks a lot!
great video, I want to use a spektrum 10 channels as3x/ safe rx, Iwas wondering if I can still use the stock board just for the gears and the wing sweep? and ail/ele/rud stabilized on my spektrum rx?
Hey it's Dustin, I don't see why that wouldn't work. I would think that you could hook up all the flight control servos straight to the spektrum rx and then program them all via your tx. That said, I haven't tried it, so there may be some weird issue I'm not aware of. Good luck if you try it!
When Duston setup his control throws did he used the measurements in the manual or the percentage in the manual? I am using a NX10 and the percentage is not very close to the measurements. Also, did he do Wesley's modification to the ailerons? Thanks in advance....
I'm not exactly sure, but Dustin was telling me he has learned some new things that may help folks with them. We plan to do a follow up vid, and I'll make sure we do one of our set up pages on his plane...so you'll have specifics.
I am wondering if people are miss-interpret the instructions for setting up flap to elevator mix. The manual states 1mm and 3mm down elevator. One way you can interpret this is the leading edge of the elevator is pointing to the bottom of the fuse. With full flying stabs this would cause the plane to lift its nose. When flaps are deployed in most planes the plane will nose up and you want a little down elevator to compensate. Again with flying stabs to make the plane go down the leading edge of the elevator must move up to the top of the fuse. So, when I read to put down elevator into the flap mix I think you need to have the elevator's leading edge move to the top of the fuse.
Hey, thats a fair point, the manual says the nose will rise when the flaps come down, so to use the elevator mix to compensate for that. I agree the verbiage is a bit confusing though. They probably should say "nose down elevator" or something like that. That said, i personally didnt notice any nose up pitch with flaps, so i ignored that mix all together and I'm happy with how it handles. Some may find it easier with a bit of nose down trim on landing though, sometimes it can help. Thanks.
Just for anyone reading this advice, after several more flights on this jet, I did eventually put some nose down elevator into the flap mix, and I think it helps. I didn't feel like it was needed to keep it level while flying, but on final approach I do think it helps to keep the nose down. If you flare very much at all with this one it will drop a wing. I've had a much higher percentage of pretty landings since I made that change.
I can fly electric larger sized warbirds and would love to fly this jet. Seems a little scary to land this, is there a good starter jet you would recommend?
@ModelAV8RChannel I just discovered the Viper, but I've never seen it before. I was told the f22 raptor is a very easy starter jet due to its slow speed and versatility. Thanks ill look into both.
Dustin is still flying his several times a week, its doing fine. He set another one up for our buddy Carl...his is flying fine as well. I have no idea what your situation with yours is, so this isn't directed at you and may not be relevant to your issue/issues. That said, we have seen a lot of set up errors with other people, and people not being aware of how the flap/wing sweep safeguard works, and hitting switches out of order. Also we see many stall it landing. Dustin describes what is working well for him in this video both set up and flying wise. He comes in with a bit of power, and is careful not to get the nose up too far. If you come in power off, or try to come in at the higher angle of attack that works with many other EDF's...this one will stall. I've heard of random single wing sweeps happening, and that would suck and for sure cause a crash. That said, so far so good with the two I have first hand eyes on, and both owners enjoy flying them. I've flown Dustin's and Carl's, they fly good for us...that said, definitely for a more advanced pilot.
@@ModelAV8RChannel Well I know when I have reached a point of being done with a plane. This one is going on a shelf for a while. i may revisit it someday but no time soon. If I am not enjoying flying a model and dread it then I am done with it. I truly just wish I could undo the buy button. I set it up by the book and Wesley build video. Perhaps mine is just a lemon.
I get it man. When you're done you're done. To be fair Dustin is a very good pilot and flies a bit of everything, but he has been keying on EDF's a good bit the last couple of years. I've flown them for years as well and have flown a lot of heavier, more demanding scale planes. This one is a bit different for sure, and requires some specific techniques that differ from many sport/scale jets. Wind compounds that and makes it even more demanding. Some may enjoy that challenge, others won't. Par for the course in the hobby as the skill level required to fly a given plane increases.
"This is not a bad first landing at all" is such a strange statement lol - that's a gorgeous landing. Way better than our first one with this jet!
Have you tried landing with the wings swept? Would it be less likely to drop wing at a slower speed with wings swept? I know it is not the normal way, but I'm just curious.
Even in reverse, the EDFs yank the nose up a bit it seems.
So, I accidentally hit wing sweep instead of flaps today and landed wings swept. It came in fast and I flared to slow down and it landed just fine. Probably one of my better landing on this model. I have a problem of not having enough throttle on landing and it stalls a few feet off the ground.
Ha! Not really that strange...most first landings on YT don't look like that...
Wanted to wait for your review on this one.. think I'll pull the trigger on it now. Thank u and Dustin for the going over.
It's a good one man...set up is key, and knowing the switches. Got to keep up with your sweep and flap switch positions.
Great to see some one a lot younger flying and doing demos. There is hope!
Nice review guys. Glad to hear you liked this one. So happy to see customers getting these and loving them.
Got to say Adam, Freewing make some superb foam EDF Jets!! That one looks so scale!! Dustin knows his stuff and it was interesting watching his review!! Great Job all 😀👍
Thanks Ian! Yep, Dustin knows his stuff.
2am uploads?…… Someone is committed and studies analytics !👌🏻👍🏻🏁
Impressive power for stock. Looks like they finally redeemed themselves after the brick of an 80mm F-14.
Excellent review! 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Awesome flights
Awesome review!
Thanks yall!! 👍
Thanks Al!
Adam and Dustan awesome edf great flying and the details are great nice video😊👍👍👍👍
Thanks Frank!
I was very impressed with how it looks, sounds, and performs. Dustin did a great job and this was an excellent guest visit !
I could only enjoy your flying today - as we had winds over 20 mph.
Thanks man! Dustin did great. Whew...windy there.
Hi Adam, as I said before to you I was really looking forward to this video and it has not disappointed , was not expecting a guest review - one observation I would like to make , is that it seems a lot of these are how shall I say "Dropping out of the sky"! - chatting on forums, it sees that Motion RC have issued a video talking about an issue one might meet regarding the Gyro (not the gyro itselfs but the Elevon connections COULD be the wrong way around - the Motion RC video shows Wesley swapping these over to make the correction - so owners have attempted to correct his via the TX, but as soon as the Gyro is activated you are into a world of issues... it seems that enough of these have gone down , Due to this issue? - that the wider community thinks that Freewing and Motion RC should have made a world wide announcement and not just a video about the Gyro and almost casually talking about this.... Have you heard anything on your grape vine ? - it might be worth checking and adding an update video to clear this up a little as a lot of RC Pilots watch your channel...here is the link to the Motion RC video about it....ua-cam.com/video/N2aF5AVoeeU/v-deo.htmlsi=_ODx2oVkz2Y4unLn
Dustin here, I didnt have that issue, but another buddy of mine did. Luckily he checked the direction of the stabilizer before flight, and we found the video you mentioned. I would have never guessed that was the solution. Definitely important to check the gyro direction before any maiden flight, that's one of my personal nightmare scenarios haha.
Hey Martyn. I hadn't heard that until now. I see Dustin chimed in. He helped one of our other flying buddies Carl with one today (we flew til dark tonight). So glad you do your homework. By the time you mess with one you'll know what to look for. Yep, Motion might want to put that on the sales page. And forums, and everywhere. I agree with Dustin though...we always (should) check control direction and gyro correction direction before flying anything.
Looks deeply impressive! Well done to Dustin and Team Model AV8R!
Thanks Gina!
Enjoyed watching. Dustin did a great job flying.
He did!
Dustin was very good behind both sticks and camera. The model is fantastic and the sound ... oh, the sound
He was! Thanks man! It does sound good!
Outstanding review Adam, you guys always bring your A Game! And Dustin appears to be one of those rare and special person who is not only a superb pilot but seems to be a hellava nice guy! 😂
Thanks! You're right, Dustin is a great guy!
Thanks Adam & Dustin! ...very cool review. The F-14 is a classic among US fighters and this one looks great in the air. Thanks for sharing this with us!
Thanks Steve! It is a fun one!
Nicely done Dustin. This is a wonderful looking/flying plane. Enjoyed the guest format for sure. Thanks for sharing, Will
Thanks Will!
Come on Freewing, now we need an F 111 ! Or a Tornado, which would sell well in Europe !
I'd actually prefer a Tornado of the two.
Great flying, you know Dustin is going to hook up this F14, zoom zoom zoom Jeff in LA USA
He may...lol
Nice one Adam and Dustin. Great flying and chit chat. 🫡
Thanks Chris!
Very nice mini review of the 64. Its clearly got more juice out of tge box than the 80 which most of us end up upgrading. He did a great job witg it!
Thanks David! He really did. Now I hope they upgrade the big un...
Now that is how you land that bad boy !! Great flights 👍🏻
Dustin is a good pilot!
What a beauty Adam! So fast & sounds much better than the smaller one released last year. I prefer the larger models. Well done Dustin.
PS. Did you manage to Save Ferris? or just sing along with them?
It is Noel! Lol...I just sang along and danced...
Well flown Dustin!
He did!
Great job guys, a friend at our field flew his 4 times and it looks and fly's just as you described a real solid flying jet overall.
Thanks Pappy! We're impressed.
Nice video and flying. The F-14 looks like a winner. I’d like to see more videos flying off grass. I did watch Rich’s. Most of us don’t have a runway. Great job!
Thanks. Man our geo textile runway is rough enough, lol. Our grass is worse...
Very well done Team AV8R. I need to figure out how to fit one more plane in the hangar. 😁👍
Yes Mike...yes you do...lol
Impressive...Also .thrust reverse...I want one.
It is Tony. Awesome flyer.
Nice video, thank you for sharing! Semper Fi!
Thanks man!
Nice landing
As always fantastic camera work
Thanks!
Dustin was wringing that battery out on the performance flight! A good demo of the model’s capabilities. Did Dustin have stability turned on for those flights?
Dustin here, i did have the stabilizer on, honestly haven't flown it much without it yet. Typically just keep it on to dampen out the wind a bit. Thanks a lot!
sweet looking plane.
This is indeed one awesome model from Freewing, hopefully their upgrade their 80mm larger version
Yep. The 80 needs to be upgraded.
Excellent video as always guys 👍 ive just bought this jet and was wondering did you go with the book cg on the wings dustin ?
Thanks
Paul
Yes manual CG.
great video, I want to use a spektrum 10 channels as3x/ safe rx, Iwas wondering if I can still use the stock board just for the gears and the wing sweep? and ail/ele/rud stabilized on my spektrum rx?
Hey it's Dustin, I don't see why that wouldn't work. I would think that you could hook up all the flight control servos straight to the spektrum rx and then program them all via your tx. That said, I haven't tried it, so there may be some weird issue I'm not aware of. Good luck if you try it!
@@grcvid thank you 👍
Jet of the year
So far...
We agree haha 😂
WOW !! 😳🌿
interesting look 👍👍
GREAT VIDEO! 👍👊🇺🇲
Glad you enjoyed it
When Duston setup his control throws did he used the measurements in the manual or the percentage in the manual? I am using a NX10 and the percentage is not very close to the measurements. Also, did he do Wesley's modification to the ailerons? Thanks in advance....
I'm not exactly sure, but Dustin was telling me he has learned some new things that may help folks with them. We plan to do a follow up vid, and I'll make sure we do one of our set up pages on his plane...so you'll have specifics.
@@ModelAV8RChannel Thanks that would be great.
Fantastic Pilot!
He is!
So the 8th channel is fox 2's and the 9th channel is fox 3's?😅 Imagine working Phoenixes on this beast. Damn
LOL! I wish Nick!
@@ModelAV8RChannel the pesky mig21's wouldn't stand a chance. 🤣
can you program the wings on different sweep posistions if you want?
Yes
Good stuff AV8R, nice flying Dustin. MRC built a winner. Price is good for what you get but still a little out of reach for me.
Thanks man. I know what you mean. It is high for a twin 64mm, but being a F-14 I get it.
@@ModelAV8RChannel 64 or not, it's outta this guy's range. The only one I'd consider is the EC...
@@airhammer6203 EC?
@@ModelAV8RChannel EC-1500 :)
@airhammer6203 Ahh yes. Freaking awesome plane. The most fun I've had slinging a twin around.
I am wondering if people are miss-interpret the instructions for setting up flap to elevator mix. The manual states 1mm and 3mm down elevator. One way you can interpret this is the leading edge of the elevator is pointing to the bottom of the fuse. With full flying stabs this would cause the plane to lift its nose. When flaps are deployed in most planes the plane will nose up and you want a little down elevator to compensate. Again with flying stabs to make the plane go down the leading edge of the elevator must move up to the top of the fuse. So, when I read to put down elevator into the flap mix I think you need to have the elevator's leading edge move to the top of the fuse.
That may be happening. Dustin got it right, but to be fair he is an F-14 fan and has some prior experience with them.
Hey, thats a fair point, the manual says the nose will rise when the flaps come down, so to use the elevator mix to compensate for that. I agree the verbiage is a bit confusing though. They probably should say "nose down elevator" or something like that. That said, i personally didnt notice any nose up pitch with flaps, so i ignored that mix all together and I'm happy with how it handles. Some may find it easier with a bit of nose down trim on landing though, sometimes it can help. Thanks.
Just for anyone reading this advice, after several more flights on this jet, I did eventually put some nose down elevator into the flap mix, and I think it helps. I didn't feel like it was needed to keep it level while flying, but on final approach I do think it helps to keep the nose down. If you flare very much at all with this one it will drop a wing. I've had a much higher percentage of pretty landings since I made that change.
I can fly electric larger sized warbirds and would love to fly this jet. Seems a little scary to land this, is there a good starter jet you would recommend?
I mean to work my way up to fly the F14.
I think for your skill level either of the E-Flite Vipers would be a great place to start. 70mm or 90mm.
@ModelAV8RChannel I just discovered the Viper, but I've never seen it before. I was told the f22 raptor is a very easy starter jet due to its slow speed and versatility. Thanks ill look into both.
Freewing owes us$500 and an apology.
Dustin is still flying his several times a week, its doing fine. He set another one up for our buddy Carl...his is flying fine as well. I have no idea what your situation with yours is, so this isn't directed at you and may not be relevant to your issue/issues. That said, we have seen a lot of set up errors with other people, and people not being aware of how the flap/wing sweep safeguard works, and hitting switches out of order. Also we see many stall it landing. Dustin describes what is working well for him in this video both set up and flying wise. He comes in with a bit of power, and is careful not to get the nose up too far. If you come in power off, or try to come in at the higher angle of attack that works with many other EDF's...this one will stall. I've heard of random single wing sweeps happening, and that would suck and for sure cause a crash. That said, so far so good with the two I have first hand eyes on, and both owners enjoy flying them. I've flown Dustin's and Carl's, they fly good for us...that said, definitely for a more advanced pilot.
@@ModelAV8RChannel Well I know when I have reached a point of being done with a plane. This one is going on a shelf for a while. i may revisit it someday but no time soon. If I am not enjoying flying a model and dread it then I am done with it. I truly just wish I could undo the buy button. I set it up by the book and Wesley build video. Perhaps mine is just a lemon.
I get it man. When you're done you're done. To be fair Dustin is a very good pilot and flies a bit of everything, but he has been keying on EDF's a good bit the last couple of years. I've flown them for years as well and have flown a lot of heavier, more demanding scale planes. This one is a bit different for sure, and requires some specific techniques that differ from many sport/scale jets. Wind compounds that and makes it even more demanding. Some may enjoy that challenge, others won't. Par for the course in the hobby as the skill level required to fly a given plane increases.
@@ModelAV8RChannel Thank you