Bold Takes and Bad Tempers ( Ep. 3) All Roleplay Is Not Good Roleplay
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- In this scorching hot episode, Zach dives deep into the art of roleplay, explores how to guide player progression, and tackles the tricky balance of managing overpowered characters. Send in your red flag moments, sticky situations, or general inquiries to BoldTakes@outlook.com
DM'ing for a table of 7, and they got derailed for over 40 minutes debating whether to keep a little demon imp as a pet or kill it, finally 1 guy got so fed up he killed it and said "there it's over, we can do the actual story now instead of whatever that was" and everyone joked "Zos got so mad he broke the 4th wall"
Personally I keep my keys at my side so I can jingle them in front players incase they start to lose focus.
My group of 4 once had a discussion over 30 minutes if it is more sensible to eat the last ration as dinner and skip breakfast or the other way around. Stuff like that happened so often that I thought my group rather wanted to play a grindy survival game or a logistics firm simulation.
@@peschionator7873 I get why people find it frustrating and annoying, but when they're enjoying it and I know are gonna be laughing at the end, I'll just sit back and watch the train wreck lol. I really lucked out with my group.
Had this happen with a goblin baby, they ended up threatening a band of goblins to take in the child or die
@@joelmi16yeah this is just free prep time. I can kind of just tune them out, let them have their fun and make the next area have a bit more polished. Honestly I'm tired of doing all the work as a DM. I'm not a professional circus clown, entertaining 4 children is not my full time job. When they do entertain themselves for 30+ minutes, it means I get a break from playing babysitter and honestly that's welcome.
Every episode is slightly longer and slightly angrier than the last, by episode 60 it's just going to be Zach screaming into the camera uninterrupted for 6 hours
And by episode 250 it will be just a 80 days video of him hunting some bad player down with guns.
by episode 1000 it’s just an unending livestream of him stalking random people in the street before following them into their homes and just punching them for multiple hours
I can't wait, it's going to be glorious
Watching these episodes more and more feel like a visual demonstration of what it looks like when an adventurer is onset with compounding exhaustion levels. I appreciate the determination for real :D
Surprised to see you in this Comment Section. A welcome surprise nonetheless.
@@blockeontheleafeon hi :]
@@DPadGamer Sup. Good to see you.
Loving the continued rants about Dunkin' & Donuts. My DM sometimes tells me to calm it down with the roleplaying because apparently moaning sensually in his ear is "inappropriate" but I just punch him and tell him he's taking away my player agency. Thanks for your help!
Zach's too obsessed with having "correct takes." We need bold action - ban d4s going forward in all of his games.
I can get behind that, if you wanna tickle a monster you can go somewhere else.
Here we only roll real dice.
Strangely find myself looking forward to the weekly "stranger aggressively rants about D&D"
I love the mic cover his shirt so it says “Gary Barbell”
This is Gary Barbell, my human barbarian
Gary is the type of person to work a 9-5 office job, but crack open a cold one in a dungeon with his buds on weekends. 😆@@jackwaterman8185
that my next barbarian's name, hes my oc of gary gygax's twin who was separated at birth and isekai'd into the world of faerun. 🤣
Zach: "Don't even get me started on railroading..."
Episode 1 Zach: "RAILROAD RAILROAD RAILROAD"
HEY I'M THE TRENCH GUY! I genuinely got jumpscared when I heard him say "So, I'm running this cyberpunk game..."
(Also thank you for tearing into the anti matter rifle thing lol, I'm sorting that out, and I've explained to my players that they are gonna get hurt)
Sound Editing Tip for AC’s, Fans, and Constant static background noise. Take a recording of your room in Audacity. Then use that as a filter to remove that sound profile from any audio profile and you should be left with just your voice.
Digital Signal Processing filtering setup for a visual tutorial.
Aw yeah, my favourite puddle-forming series is back!
On the topic of self insert characters - The characters we make in TTRPG are inherently molded by who we are as people. Who we aspire to be and character arcs that we wish to play out will always be based in the lives we've lived in our real world. That's what's so beautiful about TTRPG, I couldn't imagine faulting a player for their OC being too close to who they actually are.
I'm really liking this format of videos. Its been awesome just seeing more of "the real you" outside of the context of your short form content. Keep it up 😁😁
I’m so upset that mister “the bold” will disapprove of my 5’8 barbarian goblin named Willem Dafoe who just throws bombs at people (no isekai or anything he’s just there)
When the quiet observer came up, it took me back to a memorable moment in my group years ago:
We had a silent player at the table and were on the group‘s early game (probably level 2 or 3) when I introduced the BBEG - the group was in the middle of some
underground ruins and just finished an indiana jones style delve when they were cornered and clearly outmatched. The BBEG explained to them that he will let them go if they turn over this plot device. All the other players picked up on the fact that this was a fight they can’t win and got ready to hand over the item when out of nowhere someone spoke with in-character voice: „Now listen up you piece of shit!“
In shock everyone turned to the silent player. They had up to this point only reacted (as in acting on their turn in combat and following the group) and never shown initiative, let alone spoken in character.
After an initial moment of shock and silence, we all agreed that: „welp, hope we weasel our way out of this without everyone getting wiped.“, had a laugh and played on. But everyone at the table has fond memories of that session. (Needless to say I didn’t let anyone die because our silent player engaged in role play for the first time with that group)
never before have i agreed more with dnd hot takes, i just watched all 3 parts and it feels really nice to finally have someone talk about this. The amount of times ive seen people preach about how sandbox is the only way dnd should be played and how "if you have even the slightest amount of rails your players will feel it and become murderhobos" has to have taken at least 5 years off my life span. LINEAR ≠ RAILROAD
You look like Where's Waldo. Especially in the hair. Love the show.
The meme of an OC is a self-insert Sonic or My Little Pony character. But you’re right, most of it is just an artist’s character that they do continuity illustrations or a comic about.
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The real defining thing is probably the Joss Whedon/Scott Pilgrim-style introduction/personality/likes-dislikes caption.
i feel like the whole “shopping sessions vs. regular sessions” and just having heavy RP or combat comes down to communication. if the DM wants to run game based 90% on RP should communicate that before the game starts and players should communicate what they want from a story or game. there’s nothing wrong with finding a new group simply because you don’t wanna run the same type of game
Agreed. My last 2 sessions were all RP, no combat. My players loved it. It was also of a nature that pushed the story forward in big ways.
We were also coming off of a siege that lasted 2 sessions, so nobody was really itching for combat anyway lol.
28:05 he got there in the end. "we dont play the same game" hahah love the passion though
this is such a therapeutic podcast. bless Zach for yelling at all the "um, actually 🤓" comments
We had one player in our home game who actually threw a tantrum for 30 minutes when his character died because his character wasn’t as good as the other players, then threatened to fight me when I said skill issue
Truth be told, you mentioned in the first episode that you have no air conditioning, not that the one you have is loud. Personally, I don't care if it's too loud, don't die of heart stroke or whatever.
so wild that zack read the entire question before giving his opinion lmao, usually he'd just interrupt himself three times
Zach, please do keep up the content. These podcasts and stuff are awesome. Always things that are always said but some are just… wow. You are the voice in my head and every video you make brightens up my day. Keep it up dude love ya content
It's going to be so weird when summer ends and this podcast stops being sweaty, by now it's part of the branding
The spectators can give DMs secret anxiety, "is this person having fun for real or just hanging out??" If a significant amount of time passes where they haven't engaged, i check on them, "does Tibexius have any thoughts or anything to add to this situation?" Most of the time, it's a "no, not right now, just listening and considering the things that have been said." Me: "hmmmmkaaay..." As long as they aren't playing games in another monitor or something, i usually take this at face value. But it does make me nervous sometimes
Honestly the spectator players have normally been non issue players for me, once I actually calmed down about them not being in the spotlight. They normally are very quick to take their turn, or make their decisions too which is a plus. They’re just, VERY quiet most of the time.
If you ever get a chance to play with a spectator in person it’s a much less anxious situation, since you can actually SEE that they’re engaged and listening, just not talking.
The ramshackle, chaotic quality of these are incredible
you’re my favorite dnd creator genuinely!! PLEASE keep talking yo shit
also pls do more of those showcases of your 1st campaign 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Bold takes and bad temperatures
16:42 some of the best moments I’ve had in dnd have been when some small rules were messed with for the fun of the table. Getting worked up about “the beholder would suffocate” is crazy. Especially when it was undead (like Zach said). It’s also just a fun thing that happens at all tables. Almost like it’s a main rule of the game. “Rule of cool” or whatever the DM allows. Getting mad at that in a short is crazy because that just means at that table in that short it was a cool thing that they were allowed to do. (Not that anyone needs my permission for anything but) I’m all for it!
I absolutely love this podcast. Your raw passion makes the topics fun to listen to. It's like damn finally someone says it! Thanks dude 😁
I feel like Zach just made this podcast just to yell at the people who write stupid comments on his videos and I'm here for it.
Very good. I liked the section on the players getting saved too much and not feeling like heroes. Whats your take on other genres of TTRPGS that dont focus on "power fantasy" as the underlying basis? Our friend group has really been enjoying Delta Green, a horror TTRPG that's like X-Files. Combat is terrifying, and the stakes are high. It makes for great roleplay and dread at fights being initiated.
Your energy is unmatched, my guy. Keep chuggin' on this crazy journey of yours. Whatever you put out, I love that it comes from the unfiltered you.
I honestly have never been more excited for a podcast upload.
This podcast matches the chaos in my sleep deprived brain so perfectly. It's like if a pullback toy car got let loose on a treadmill going the exact same pace.
53:04 that half life reference made me so happy.
Insane hl2 one-off reference! Crazy it stood out in all of our heads like that!
Was partied with a player who would invent new motivations for his character and decided to kill his animal companion for an intimidation role, or would randomly decide he had a wife and kids never mentioned and become religious and pray during combat. Very entertaining but we also goofed on him pretty hard for the inconsistency and lack of dialogue with the dm lol
Unmedicated ADHD-core
Neutral-Chaotic alignment be like. Perfect roleplay
We love our sweaty boi rants
after this episode, im convinced that our boy here is eventually gonna wind up on the news
I didn’t know Zach played Dead by Daylight, and now I NEED to see it
Retired may 2024, born may 2024.
Close enough: welcome back german985
Hey Zach. Add this to the scuba gear fund for when the sweat levels in your room surpass your height. Loving the podcast please keep pointing at the camera aggressively. Hope you have a great WEEK and a great LIFE.❤
When Zach put my head in the toilet and took my lunch money, I felt like my RP characters became much more realistic and fun at the table, thank you Zach. I hope you stop sweating some time
I love the spike in chaotic rage at "ALL THE INTELLECTUALS IN MY COMMENTS"
Loving these podcast vids. Your shorts are so much fun, and these looks into your ttrpg opinions are very interesting! You seem like someone who would be a lot of fun to play with haha
Big dawg
Edit: 28 mins in... Zach how do you not cuss! I am impressed.
Keep up with the energy, no matter the format it shows that you are very dedicated!
These vids are so great. Very cathartic!
This is probably the most entertaining podcast ive watched, its very funny and really does sound like the jerma of dnd, cant wait for more
been hella enjoying this show lately! nice work Zach keep it up
A satisfying narrative solution to stun/banish etc is that, following human reasoning, those effects and spells are annoying. The same way they're annoying to us they're annoying to the adventurers and wizards (etcc...) within the setting. Thus, items that weaken those effects are common. Small consumable bracelets that can resist effects of teleportation magic with a reaction, or a ring that can give you advantage against stun condition. These are very common and easy to come across, especially for adventurers and the likes. But you can imagine like a merchant going through a dangerous rout, they'll often be wearing some of these protective magic items.
Mechanically they usually end up being mostly fodder because I don't use those types of spells and effects much. My thought process is- if there are common and cheap ways to trivialize those effects, most people wouldn't put in effort to learn those spells. But it makes it feel "likely and reasonable" when the bandit boss easily resists stun. I just smile and go "yeah and you can resist it easily as well!"
Fun for the whole family
You read a comment on an earlier video saying how someone saw your short form stuff, liked it, came here and found out it was different and they didnt like it, i would like to say i think your tiktoks are funny but i am laughing out loud at these, your delivery is perfect, i feel like im being personally attacked by the players in these scenarios
Saying "It's not about the money. If I could, I'd be paid in Arby's beef and cheddar's" made me immediately pair it in my brain with the Simpsons scene "money can be exchanged for goods and services" "explain"
"Let your babies die..." My goodness what a line.
This man is coming to the defense of every DM that's been shouted down by the overwhelming amount of YTers and players that act like telling a player no in ANY way is destroying the fundamental concepts of what the game is "supposed" to be.
Man after watching this I want him to be my DM so freakin bad.
I love the comment and love your takes. Me and my party actually love the nitty gritty realism, we do carry weight to give bag of holdings an actual use. I’d love if you kept doing the hour long videos too.
dude 15 minutes in and I'm already cackling. Love this Zach guy!
That’s not sweat it’s the boldness leaking outta ya, love the podcast 🤟🏼🤟🏼
Let's go my favorite DnD J Jonah Jameson posted
Zach talking about logistics at the end makes me think that the 3rd edition era of tracking everything and making rules for everything got people hyper focused in a "realism" mindset that doesnt need to exist in DnD.
Short and sweet: I L O V E this new format ♥
18:30 As Zac mentioned I don't think this is a huge problem. But if they're just shy and don't feel comfortable roleplaying (yet) then I think you patiently lobe them softball opportunities to jump into a little bit more RPing and if there's a moment you see them go beyond their comfort level then given them heroic inspiration or some incentive to encourage them. I think in time with positive reinforcement PCs who aren't comfortable would warm up to RPing.
Yo zach, i run a campaign with 5 players and i wanted to say i love your videos!!
In the past you've talked about despising pvp in your games and i think if your creative about it it can be fun. The way i handle pvp urges with my players since a lot of them like the idea of seeing whos the highest damage dealer in the party, is that whenever people have free time after a session, we will set up a non canon arena where we can have pvp matches that dont count towards in game story progression in any way. And you can even extend the idea by allowing players to have an npcs sheet for an enemy they fought in the past, and letting them have a sidekick in the fight, allowing for really creative match ups. I know pvp isnt for every dm but i think thats a fun way to handle it :)
I have loved the rants and my friend watched it with me and loved it too.
All my favorite characters have always been OC's from my own stories that I've altered and modified to fit the game and setting.
It basically just gives me a complex backstory with a buncha things for a DM to pull on while giving me a developed basis for a character to shape into the plot.
14:20 Yeah no youre right, OCs most of the time arent self inserts but rather just characters the person puts together with aspects they like or find unique in general.
Thats why a lot of artists have many OCs (which they kinda also abandon after a while) simply becaue of everlasting changes in preferences to draw as well as include in stories etc.
MOST bigger artists will keep 1 OC for image purposes but then change their art slightly to focus on others and see if they can be the next big image if the crowds very positive towards their design
10000% on the "observer player" - my partner is this way, and has a great time playing even if he doesn't speak up on his own super often. Some of my favorite moments as a player are ones I'm just sitting back and watching, so it's always made sense to me that someone else could enjoy the game completely without being a super active roleplayer.
Love Zach's heat induced psychosis. Keep up the good work.
ngl this may be the best dnd related stuff I've ever watched, please keep this up!
He loves Frostpunk! My admiration for you went up by 1 point, good sir.
"If I lost my OC I've been making for 7 years! I'd! I'd!"
I love ending an impassioned shouting filled rant with a very calm "get ahold of yourself"
I don’t know what I was expecting but I was not anticipating how chaotic and feral this would be. I love it.
I appreciate the "it's just a joke, lighten up, the logistics don't matter" mentality. However, I think it's also important to sympathize that the people who complain about the small logistical details are kinda saying "you are so close, I wish you were all the way there, here are the ways in which I think you came up short". Like, it's easy to find comedy that is consistent with the rules of the real world. However, consider the DnD movie with its crazy budget that still made lore accuracy sacrifices in favor of the story and spectacle (I really enjoyed the movie fwiw). Is it really so bad that some people want lore accurate comedy? Comedy that respects the rules of the world and game they care so much about? Some people feel that internal inconsistency cheapens a story/plot, takes them out of it; makes sense to me that that would extend to comedy. (Fwiw I loved that skit so much it was the first one of yours that I showed to my SO)
To clarify, I'm not advocating for any change in your creative process nor content, I'm just saying, let the people grieve. If they want to air their grievances over what could have been in UA-cam or wherever comments, I say let em! It's your content, it is totally ok for it to not meet their hopes and expectations
I love that these get slightly longer each time
Bros out here hyping up that stunned condition… wait till bro hears about paralyzed
I don't know if I have the energy to watch this yet since you uploaded this as I was 3 minutes into episode 2 but boy oh boy am I loving your rants
OC’s are just characters people make basically, they can be a character they thought just looked good with no lore or a character with no art but millions of pages of backstory. All that really keeps them as an OC is not having a specific media they’re connected to, like a story or comic or something, because once they do they become a part of that media.
YES DADDY ZACHY KEEP YELLING AT ME!! GIVE IT TO ME!!!!…still not a sadist
I'm wondering if eventually we'll just see Zach burst into flames.
I love how adversarial you are throughout these
To be honest I have never heard any of the things you are complaining about, eg. cutscenes, railroading, someone screaming metagaming at me, etc. Really enjoying the videos, obviously, and the energy is great, I just hadn't realised how lucky I must have been!
From a previous podcast you mentioned acid splash on locks. I would find it hard to believe that expensive lock makers wouldn't include a sacrificial anode in their lock. It's not infinite, but logicaly any artisen making locks would be aware of acid cantrips like lock picks in their fantasy word.
Here ya go brah, I hope you do this 4eva :) Put this towards aircon suppressor fund pls
THE HIGHLIGHT OF MY WEEK! 😊
Love the takes. Making my friends watch these. Every one is a banger.
i loved the sweat cleaning this episode
Watching this is like working the night shift at Arkham Asylum, I love this podcast.
11:55 Even the mic was shocked by the roast.
Love the content, please keep em coming. Bro is a yapper.
Love to hear you 'yapping' for way too long, thank you 💛
Good lord I was cackling through this whole podcast
Cake is the ultimate analogy..... 🎂
I was about to say, does this guy cuss at all? CUSSING ISN'T GOOD! But some words build emphasis, and some make us laugh, they're often used in anger, frustration, or pain. But I was like... dang, this guy rarely cusses, which is great. Good on ya! XD
Hey, you remember Oregon trail? Thats shopping for non magical stuff. Tracking weight? Yeah. Thats not my kind of titterpig.
All your episodes are sweaty episodes, Zach the Bold
For a half pound beef n cheddar 🤙🤙