We Need to Talk About LaMelo Ball.
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- Опубліковано 20 лис 2023
- LaMelo Ball has been the latest player to be labeled as "empty stats", due in large part to the shortcomings of the Charlotte Hornets organization. The truth is a lot more complicated though, because when LaMelo Ball was fully healthy during the 2021-22 season, he helped them achieve an above .500 record and they made the play-in tournament.
Despite being compared to players like Tyrese Haliburton and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, LaMelo Ball is truly his own player. The Hornets have a long way to go before they're a truly competitive, but with LaMelo operating as the primary facilitator and offensive engine, they have a lot more to work with than a lot of teams in the NBA.
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As a Hornets fan I can already tell that I’ll love this video
I’m a hornets fan too
Factssss😭 it’s been long coming
As a Hornets and Kendrick fan I couldnt agree more
I’ve never seen this many fellow Hornets fans together. How’s everyone doing?
@@rayneozierNot well😢
that analysis of his game was on point! good job. he is averaging 25 ppg 7R and 8 assists right now with a 44% FG. Everyone can talk but he is not the problem on that team. They actually play the worst basketball I have ever seen without him on the floor.
Facts. Really obvious when Lamelo goes to the bench
@@dpatton3102bruh. I hate it when he sits! 😢 lol
The team has no bench ☠️ they got one guy that can get 10 points off the bench and that's pj. The rest of the bench is made up of projects
Lamelo ball makes being a hornets fan fun, do you realize how hard that is to do??
As a Hornets fan I love seeing the potential within our squad both offensively and on defense. LaMelo alongside Miller and Bridges is the offense we needed and having Mark Williams on the floor being such a beast on defensive boards and all that i see needed is a better backcourt defense in LaMelo, Hayward picks that up pretty well though as well.
and we are so grateful they picked miller instead of scoot!
This Hornets team is definitely trending in the right direction.
@@CqThatdude certainly seems like it, our turnovers are a big problem.
@@Bxn.jii_ There big man problem seems to be solved though. Mark Williams is averaging a double double and Nick Richards is good too
@@CqThatdude Mark Williams has been amazing to watch, one thing he could use is more physicality but to be honest he’s been a huge factor to the wins.
the fact the narrative about lamelo from some people in the nba community was lamelo’s a stat patter and he doesn’t contribute to winning was ridiculous if you just watch him play and look at his stats and underlying metrics its obvious he is a special player and will be one for a long time
4-9 Record. They're trash and he stat pads. He cares more about flashly highlights than actual dubs. THe glazing this kid gets is insane. He's above average player, but I'd take a player like Dame in a heart beat over this kid.
@@ruminating1596dame is a top 75 player ever. Why is lamelo getting that comparison if you think he’s not even that good
@@ruminating1596 Dame is 10+ years older than him nigga
@@ruminating1596lmaoo so you care for a player who only wants dubs then says he wants Dame💀
If you’re a real nba fan you know that Lamelo was officially carded when he battled against Giannis and the bucks last season. Great game. Clutch plays back to back.
The thing is that we're talking about a teamed-sport, lamello is, in fact, above his team mates
People throw the "empty stats / not a winning player" tag on every young player putting up numbers even though it should be clear a guy like Lamelo is an incredible talent with not much around him that can still make his team offense competent. He's a hooper
In a year they'll be calling Wemby a stat padder.
Steve Nash stats aren't what they should of been
But he was one of best PG unselfish and always giving to others in open space. Exactly what PG should do
@@shorewallLaMelo is a more talented player than Wembanyama, who may not even win rookie of the year like Ball did.
Thank you for the objectivity and the actual constructive critique. Too many either focus specifically on stats or repeat narratives. This was great.
lamelo is so special and as a hornets fan i hope he just keeps getting better
LaMelo should make the all star team imo. But the East is way too competitive for the Hornets to make the playoffs. He needs to shoot a higher percentage from the field for his height. I think he’ll get better every year for the next 7 years.
Solid take 👍
Thanks for the video Alex. Lamelo deserves this. He's so underrated rn
Thank you for the analysis. Seeing him play and seeing his stats I haven’t truly understood what he’s lacking (finishing). Man, when this kid puts it all together, he’s going to be a top 5 player.
Really great analysis here about Melo's efficiency as a finisher --- I haven't heard anyone note the difficulty of finishing as the creator compared to getting assisted finishes at the rim. I still feel lile Melo needs to attack defenders lead foot on drives a bit more with euro-finishes or moves off two feet. But Melo has so much in his bag --- as a Charlotte fan he's been really exciting this year. Brandon Miller had been excellent so far and I think will continue to win starting minutes --- Charlotte's future is bright if you ask me.
His confidence is elite! Im so glad i got to see him play in my lifetime (Illawarra Hawks Vs NZ Breakers) he had a triple double in the game
LaMelo is so underrated
Great video
Perfect timing I needed something to watch 😊.
Badass breakdown!!
I think the main eye test point to be made with melo is the creativity and spark he brings is contagious. He speaks a language with his play that only him and his teammates are fluent in on the court. it brings the best out of them and has to be difficult to get your finger on the pulse of as a defender. To me his and Haliburton are two very similar players in the sense that they both bring so much that doesn’t show up on a stat sheet. Far from padders. Always bring the best out of their teammates
I have been a melo fan since 2021 his sophomore season and as he progressed he has been such a flashy and amazing player happy to see this video
Boy he doing that since he was a rookie at chino hills
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I like that you use terms like "floor raiser" to differentiate the type of impact players have on teams. In my opinion, that is key to having a nuanced discussion on these topics rather than people talking about "empty stats" or accusing players of "stat padding" (ok, Ricky Davis might want a word with me). I believe that what people often really mean when they talk about things like empty stats is the idea that a player is more of a floor raiser than a ceiling raiser, and that while they are effective on lower quality teams, their style of play doesn't translate next to other quality players. I think that Allen Iverson is maybe the best example of this in my lifetime. And this is a credit to AI; he took a team to the finals being (not quite literally) the sole offensive force driving the way. However, his style was not adaptable to playing next to other talented players (or rather he never learned to tweak his style to fit next to others).
To me, that is what LaMelo still has to prove. I don't think his stats are empty. He scores, facilitates, and is such a singular offensive force that your team can only be *so* bad when he's out there, because his gravity and will alone will bend a defense. But does that hold up next to other players who need the basketball? Can he play effectively off-ball as well? Will his defense improve enough to where he is a clear-cut net-positive? The answer can definitely be "yes" to all of these questions, but you see in players like James Harden that just having the talent to fit around others, to play off-ball, to buy in defensively, doesn't mean that they will.
All that said, I think that it is clear that LaMelo is a talented floor raiser whose talents are yet to be proven as a ceiling raiser. He is certainly an exciting talent, but we won't know the answer until Charlotte puts a legitimate NBA product on the court around him or moves him somewhere that will.
Thank you for making this. It’s been baffling how quickly people were writing off Lemelo given his incredible talent. One of the few young guards that I can see MVP potential in.
That kid is cooking the NBA
Real talk
Salute for making a fair and unbiased video on a developing Superstar.
As a hornets fan thank you so much for making this video. The slander on lamelo is extremely loud right now so im very glad you are putting out a very rational take like this one out to the world.
Melo And Wemby gotta link up one day fr and they only 2 years apart 2 they can win hella chips together frfr
Hes a great player. The best thing about him is that he keeps improving and hes getting stronger every year
Needed to be said. He might end up dropping 27, 8 and 6 this season. Cooking
and 4.5 turnovers LMAO
@@Braylenc123if you actually took your time to watch the games you’d relise a good portion of his turnover’s are due to teammates not being able to catch easy dimes.
@@Braylenc123normal for somebody with a high usage rate Harden in his prime used to average 6
@@Braylenc123 he's creating his looks. Hornets don't run enough pick and roll sets for LaMelo. So he has to get into his bag, which is a high risk high reward situation if the bag is deep. Teams know to put the double on you and blitz you.
Having Miles back out there will take pressure off LaMelo to provide all the offense.
You’re cooking 🗣️
Good video
I need lamello to go absolutely insane tmrw
LaMelo a created player. 6’7” Point guard. Stupid handle. Stupid range. Lay up package crazy.
His playing style its not my dream but i must say his playing growing on me . This energy i like it…
Lamelo needs to be in mvps talks. I’m not saying he will stay but he had a great 8 game run and deserves recognition for that run
W video
I think a lot of people are sold on the "Ball Family is a bust" narrative, with Liangelo never making it to the NBA and Lonzo's legs getting maimed. Plenty of other great players don't develop linearly and have off years early in their careers. I think he'll be fine.
Facts Bro all Factsss👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🔥🔥🔥🔥. People really need to put more respect on that Young man name, Every team has their Star and a veteran all- star and in some cases teams have up to 3-4 like the Clippers & Suns,, I feel that if Melo can get his team to the Playoffs hell I would say if he can get them to the Playin 🤔🤔I think it should qualify Him for the MVP award. Melo was blessed to have been drafted to the worst team in the NBA, and that's from the Owners to the 15th man on the court.
They need to surround him with key pieces defensively and consistent sniper so he can have a long character. He’s a DRose level and we don’t want him to go out like rose because of no help amd continuous exertion
Lamelo is amazing , I wish he was on the pels with Zion and ingram , that would be a great lineup
My main concern with Lamelo is health, his dad put him through the same kind of wear that lead to Lonzo's injuries.
Lonzo had a botched surgery and his dad the reason he in the NBA douche
Exactly, so ironic, but sad. Worse if all of their careers are cut short . Hopefully it isn't too late to heal and retrain his body
Stop it. Same wear and tear every other player goes through.
@@oceanplug659 Every other player is trained by Lavar Ball from birth? Weird.
Lonzo messed his legs up because of shitty shoes. BBB
if hornets stuff wont be idiots then next year this team might be much much better. hayward contract will end, giving hornets chance to sign decent FA. they actually slowly building nice roster. lamelo, miller, mark, bridges. add one star to this and you might have decent team
In my opinion its because they had a better up in comming head coach in james borrgo and also havent to rebuild chemistry do to off and on the court issues
The narrative that he is not a winning player is insane. I am very critical of LaMelo when warranted but I have never understood why it is said that he is not a winning player. I get you see the flashy passes and see the deep 3s and then look at our record and be like these are "empty stats". But when you play with some of the lineups LaMelo has had, it's not easy. The one year he had a decent team around him and everyone played their role, the team went 43-39. LaMelo wants to win. You can tell by the way he has approached this season and has improved on so much just from last year despite missing most of it because of injury. It's up to Charlotte to continue putting good players around him. We aren't as far away as we think from at least a 6 seed but there are still some things that need to be addressed before I am comfortable calling us a real playoff team. But this is the closest we've been in years.
my favourite current pg, already better then magic; so amazing at everything - and he’s a handsome light skin
Do mpj
I want my Sixers to TRY to get LaMelo with all their expiring and picks, but I doubt it will be enough. Love the video though as I was just arguing with someone earlier this week about Melo being a “good stats, bad team” guy.
Melo is wassup! Extremely entertaining player! Hope he will reach his prime without any injuries!
welp
his finishing efficiency stats are skewed at this point. everyone who watches the hornets knows that at this point lamelo even has a great touch around the rim, but genuinely gets fucked over by the refs often to the point that when he feels contact he passes it out instead of shooting it cuz at this point he doesnt even expect the refs to call anything for him. Seen many instances where he did exactly that and ended up actually getting the foul call but by not shooting it hes not even getting to shoot free throws.
Id say miles was the nunber one option, lamelo was the main distributer , the lamelo miles duo go hard, potential to build off of
hornets mentioned🥳
I like lamelo I hope he does well
When lamelo start dribbling like his old self in the last game I knew he was back mentally
Legit saw this video and the same day, homie injures his foot badly. Feels bad man, feels bad.....
Of course people forget quick. The kid is still a top prodigy for sure. Just got to stay on the ball court.
miles bridges + lamelo is fire. Just need to give mark williams actual minutes now
I'm a fan of his game more than the Hornets as a team so I watch for him, I can say that people probably don't respect him as much bc he has an air of more talent than work ethic, which Idk if it's true. I remember watching a video where he said he only watches highlights. Idk rubbed me the wrong way, but what can I say- I'm a sucker for high IQ passing
This guy has been averaging +30 about and 6 reb 6 ast in the last 10 games He might be the only guard able to do this stats, the only one I can think of that would be clsoe would be Westbrook
Mr Carry, I seriously have never seen anyone carry the ball as much as Lamelo
Mr hesi and hang dribble
whatever happened to James Bouknight ?
Ppl gonna see how legendary lamelo gonna be
yes and sixth seed def
Lamelo is a superstar and def not the reason a very young team with unlucky injuries and their 2nd best player missing for a year bc he beat his wife being ass. He has been doing everything on that team and with pretty good efficiency and great consistency since his slow start as well.
People need to wake up on the current meta of NBA basketball. This is no longer the early 2000s where a single player can carry an entire franchise. It takes 2-3 stars and a solid supporting cast to even guarantee escaping play-ins. Even if we had Lebron drafted this year in place of wemby the spurs wouldn't be a playoff team all of a sudden. Sure magic, MJ, lebron and a lot of historic players changed franchises over night, but back then like 40% of the league could barely even play basketball in comparison to today. Now garbage time guys are coming on the court with a decent bag, a jumper and a strong ability to run the court.
People just love to think "well in the 80/90/2000s so and so was unstopable and added 30 wins to their team in the first 2 years!". it was only possible because the skill floor of the NBA was way way lower and team basketball was still developing.
we making the playoffs this season. Miles is back and Gordon is healthy.
I'm gonna drop this comment again, I've been here since less than 4K subscribers 🎉 THIS MAN DESERVES MORE. 😊. GO FOR GREATNESS A-H-🔥
That means a ton, really appreciate the support 🙏
Superstar in the making
Also an elite shooter
If Lamelo continues to play like he is and we get to the playoffs is he a MVP candidate?
We finally have a franchise player.
Some of us have been telling people this for a long time. Just imagine if the warriors had drafted melo
Melo needs to go…I cannot see him staying in Charlotte his whole career waiting and waiting for their luck in good picks trades etc the only way he stays is if his brothers join him and they don’t even want to give Gelo a chance despite having arguably worse players😭 atleast for morale support have Gelo sit and occasionally come in
I'm guilty of having hopped on the Ball train during the hype. Yeah, he's fun to watch (at times)., There's just so much other talent in the NBA right now that what he does isn't really all that impressive.
Best pg in the league
It's the wembenyam effect
Yall remember when mfs were doubting him 4 games in with a jailbird roster with multiple rookies
He is the Next Face Of The NBA they just hate his father to much to give it to him
before i watch this better not be a hating video W Melo
Lamelo is a superstar I'd love him on the nuggets
Imagine LaMelo's playmaking with actually good role players. He needs his brother Zo to teach him some D tho
Let’s talk about Melo more often😅🔥
They got miles bridges back ...trust me hornets ate good now...
A guard averaging 5 or more rebounds to me is a useless stat.
He needs to spend some time w Kyrie in the off season
Melo is special that’s that
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My fantasy is to see Melo and Şengün in same team.
I absolutely disagree with anyone who says he isn't a winner, Lamelo needs to be saved, hornets suck.
if Lamelo's reputation is empty stats due to his team not winning then can we say the same to Lillard and all those superstars from shit teams that doesnt win a chip?
Spent the whole video not addressing the issue which is his health.
That would be a very boring video
No the problem is melo is the face of the nba and he sells his own things like jerseys and shoes and nba ain’t making money off him so dude melo don’t get no calls bro at all literally none and he gets foul every play let’s be fr
hornets 8-10 seed for sure at minimum at maximum 6-7
One day I want lamelo on the spurs
Lets keep it real though. There is no future in hornets. He is wasting his prime in a mediocre team
aaaand now his ankle is sprained and is out for extensive time
Spend money and get him the help he need
Charlotte is trash and they are wasting Melo’s talent. He is definitely playing like an all-star. Your analysis was really good. I’d say his development is on par with other young players. So much of his game and habits grew out of being the smallest guy on the court. He’s grown into his body and thus has more control. At Chino he’d pick up that dribble mid key and hit the floater because guys were up to a foot taller and he’d have no shot at the rim. Also, I’ve noticed he’s playing with his natural left hand more. Some of his movements before seemed like he was uncomfortable or uncertain with when to switch because he was made to play with his non dominant hand.
i really like lamelo. hes fun to watch and way better than trae young
anyone who thinks lamelo is bad or empty stats are dumb because one roster check will let you know the full story
Remember when people used to compare him and Julian Newman 😂😂