TheOrangeNinja Yeah they were a little overbearing with it towards the end, but if the octopus felt like it was under genuine threat it would have either swam away or inked them and then swam away.
It didn't seem that bothered with them though, and wild creatures are used to bothersome encounters with other creatures so let's not pretend it was in any way traumatised xD I'm all for animal rights and such but they're not a bunch of butthurt sjw snowflakes.
I kind of wish that one dude wouldn't keep trying to touch it constantly. Like, let your other buddies have a turn with him before the lil guy gets annoyed like he did at there end. He maybe wouldn't have been so overwhelmed if he didn't keep reaching for it.
I consulted three experts, all Ph.Ds with particular interest in cephalopods/octopus. I shared the video with them and will paraphrase the things that two or more of them corroborated: - the mantle skin of an octopus is thin and prone to damage, scarring, or infection from touch. - solid objects are shelter to an octopus, which could explain why the octopus stays near and crawls on the divers - escape behavior includes swimming mantle-first, which this octopus does - all three experts said the interaction went on too long - best practice is for observing an curious octopus is to wait patiently and immobile, allowing the animal to begin and end the interaction. Observe and do not interfere. - this particular octopus is probably unharmed by the interaction
Not really. Two of them did bring up octopus curiosity in general, but that we should explore it in a more passive way for the animal's health and safety and for ours. All of them noted definite flight behavior and felt the interaction went on too long. Beyond this particular incident, making wildlife comfortable with well-intentioned humans makes wildlife more vulnerable to anything (human or other) that want to harm them. For this reason, all conservationists and professional organizations promote firm no-touch, no-feed policies, keeping respectful distances, and passive observation of wildlife. So, if we care, nothing about this video is right, even if they are not directly harming the octopus. Let's be honest. These divers are not bad people, but they're trying to justify selfish, irresponsible behavior. No one who cares would condone their actions, even if the octopus were playing. Had they not touched or pursued, no one would have a problem with it. As SCUBA grows in popularity, we have be firm about good practice standards. Knowledge is better than illusion. Dive in confidence that what you're doing is right.
I think the beginning was cute but the octopus clearly had enough at the end and even became a little scared. He tried to lay low and get away yet 2 people still touched him and pushed him back. I'm sure the octopus loved playing for a while but you guys should give the octopus enough room to escape whenever they want to.
Trust me, as it’s their only way to defend themselves from predators, if the octopus would’ve really wanted to flee, there wouldn’t have been much the divers could have done about it !
Didn't seem to bother it too much, but once it looks like it's trying to hide at the end there, you should probably leave it alone. The people crowding around seemed to stress it out.
Kaia Luraas Contrary. This gentle invertebrate was frightened and vigorously looking to escape from these alien beings which seemed determined to do it harm.
Starcloak Starside The salt is real with this one. Why don't you watch the first ten seconds? The animal could have easily escaped if it wanted to. You are in big denial here, less educated one.
Lamashtar Vindication. There was one part of your comment that was actually 100% correct, however, the other was slightly incorrect. Agreed. [Octopi] “...are known to be curious creatures.” Correction. “This one shows relaxed body movement.” is true, however the “relaxed body movement” that this octopus in specific was portraying was due to the stress and fatigue for the first minute or so of the video when the diver literally had to hold onto it with two hands to keep it from swimming away.
Ninjaananas Amused. The first 10 seconds, eh? Specification. Am I mistaken, or are you trying to describe the part where the diver continuously grabs the Octopus’ body and keeps blocking it from getting away? Sarcastic. Oh, but my bachelors degree in Marine Biology in 2017 must just be the fact that I correctly guessed all the FACTS on my voluntary final project on CEPHALOPODS relies on. Snarky. I got a 95%, and that was due to my professor’s ultra-OCD tendencies to deduct points for not making everything equilateral. Serious. He TOLD me this, in front of the whole CLASS. Quote-mode. “I’m sorry, [redacted], your information was 100% correct, and your research went above and beyond anyone else. This is by far the highest grade in the class. It is in every way perfect, except one. The right margin is a quarter-centimeter wider than the left.” Suggestion. Perhaps when you make insinuations on a person’s education level, you should at least sarcastically ask, “What, do you have a degree in Marine Biology or something?” instead of doing... Whatever you call this, “comment,” and displaying just how much you do not know. Refraining. Onto the ability for the Octopus to “swim away,” how the FUCK do you expect it to see that the diver’s hand is when it’s eyes are on the side of it’s head, which is BELOW the BODY? Disclaimer. When I say go read a book, I’m not just deflecting, I’m telling you to get educated. Suggestion. GO. READ. A. BOOK.
1:18 ... it definitely wants to escape there, but the diver pulled it back. Not sure how much of this was playing but that looked a lot like an animal trying to escape.
Jerald Brewer All creatures are smart, sorry but I think you eat "people " in an "animal form", when you're having meat or fish (or plants..). This is not said as a religious thought, but just cause creatures are smart and we're just like them. I eat meat, but I think my "meat" has suffered as I would, while dying.
Venus yes, you're right. I didn't mention it, but I agree with the fact that the ability to feel is common to all the living beings. (To feel pain, in this case.)
Cephalopod's are extremely intelligent animals. They are believed to be capable of understanding basic cross-species interactions. Such as the difference between play, harm, accidents, etc. There was a video demonstrating their problem solving skills. These creatures are very smart.
It was a lovely video until the main man started pulling it around, and all of the tag-alongs were trying to force it to play. But I suppose that's humans- whatever we get we always demand more.
Actually we're not half as bad as our monkey cousins so atleast we think about it and show empathy Apes on the other hand will viciously rip apart other monkey species as a gang and eat their flesh sorta like a zombie would
i think the problem is having an unnuanced empathetic sensibility. all my interactions with creatures go better when i pay close, more sensitive attention to them and am unobtrusive, unimposing, and less overbearing. it feels natural too; like the way it should be. most (crass) people are used to dogs, who seem to be much more resilient when it comes to rougher casual, low brow, insensitive interaction. i've seen people (especially men) tossle around animals like this so often; every timemaking me cringe with the lack of nuance in regards to their emotional empathy for other entities. I guess this tracks with their behavior towards everything in life... that whole, "toughen up! be a man! walk it off! pull and force off that twist off cap," thing... we all have those (usually republican) relatives who are rough and alpha colored all over (behaviorally). through other creatures reactions, we (well, some of us) see how insane this lack of attention to proper detail naturally is.
Mysti Holt Correction. Actually, this diver was grabbing the Octopus’s Abdomen or Body. Sad. The Octopus was unable to avoid the diver’s hand because the Octopus has a limited range of sight due to the position or it’s eyes on it’s head, and thus could not effectively escape this diver’s harassment. Suggestion. Rewatch this video, but instead of just believing the title, try to imagine the amount of harassment this creature feels currently.
Starcloak Starside that makes no sense, octopuses are very intelligent, it would have turned around to see or straight up ran away in a different direction. and if it really felt threatened then it would have realeased a cloud of ink. i think it's obvious that the octopus' was deliberately bumping into the hand seeing how it was constantly aiming at it with the tip of it's head.
RaxisESP Confused. Hmm, turn and swim the opposite direction, you mean like it tried to do several times before flight syndrome kicked in? Confused. I merely said to watch it over again while looking at it from a different point of view, and as is obvious you did not do what I suggested and instead decided to fight me on it. Suggestion. If you want to see this from the point of view of the Octopus, then stop trying to view it as the Diver.
You can tell exactly when the little octopus had clearly had enough...I mean seriously...he wanted to leave...in the beginning yes he might have been having fun...but when he was trying to hide, you should have left him alone!
now that's pretty frikkin funny! Only thing I'd say is once it wanted to get away, you should have left it alone..... you know, kind of like when a dog is done fetching the ball you don't keep after it ......it seemed to really enjoy bopping in and out of your hand though! that was too funny....
People need to know when enough is enough. These people clearly have no clue. I felt bad for Octo. It was plain as day-he was Done. Poor little guy/gal. :(
The intelligence of the octopus never ceases to amaze me. I've seen them open jars with screw tops. I've seen them escape their tank, travel across the room to a tank with prey, snatch the prey and slither back to their own tank. But I've never seen one actually play with humans. This little guy is a riot!!! Love the video.
I used to think octopuses were creepy animals until I started seeing videos like this showing them playing and socializing with humans for fun. They're like the cute doggos of the sea!
It was not attacking the diver. No octopus "attacks" anything by aiming its mantle at the thing being attacked. That's the dumbest thing it could do, and the dumbest interpretation I've seen of its interaction.
i think often times we forget how truly bizarre an octopus is....its literally an amorphous boneless(kinda) floating head with 8 arms sticking right out of it...
i think since the start he tried to escape and he wasnt playing at all lol. when he stayed on the dude's arm it was just to rest some time before trying again
Seeing marine life in its natural environment is one of things that attracts people to scuba diving. Unfortunately, some divers seem to have forgotten the section of their PADI Open Water class where the instructor taught them not to touch or hassle marine life.
octopus are very VERY intelligent. they can shoot away like a bullet and shoot ink if they have to. if they're scared or mad they will change colors. i wouldn't be surprised if they are so smart that they sometimes enjoy something "new" that's interesting and stimulating.. and doesn't appear to be too much of a threat. i'm sure some octopuses would have been really freaked out by being yanked out of their crevice, but this one apparently didn't mind much or he would've sprayed ink. (and btw i don't like when people cause agitation to or bother any animals. but some wild animals do like the stimulation of interacting with humans sometimes)
yeah it's interesting the more i learn about sea life.. many creatures in the oceans often seem way less afraid of people than on land. and octopuses and eels can be very smart.. smarter than people give them credit (heck, i've even seen videos of wild fish that seem to interact with humans in a way that's more than just curiosity or looking for food. one diver i saw would go to this random bit of coral over a number of years and managed to train a little clown fish{i think} to do tricks. it would come out and greet him whenever he showed up.) there's another amazing vid of a huge moray eel that seemed to show true affection for a woman who spent years trying to earn its trust by visiting its home in the ocean until it trusted her.
That octopus inked twice right at the beginning of the video, he was clearly stressed right from the start. This is animal cruelty, and you should be banned for it
He's not punching it. They just don't understand that the octopus didn't want to play anymore. Banning someone for not understanding something? Ridiculous
My question is, if it didn’t want to be near them, he could have easily escaped. They are fast. He kept going into the man’s hand willingly. At the end they should had backed off, but it clearly wanted to attention at first.
To everyone saying they were bothering the octopus: It would've INKED or ATTACKED if it felt threatened. Octupi are quite intelligent cephalopods and this one clearly did not feel threatened.
it could have died if it inked and couldn't escape. and it didn't attack because the man was way bigger than it is and probably thought that the man would attack back.
It had a hard time turning away because the diver kept guiding it back into him. It is an interesting interaction, but I wouldn't say that the Octopus wasn't trying to flee, let alone "playing". It was spending a lot of energy if it was just toying with the diver, energy that it needed to survive.
to all the people saying "the octopus was trying to escape" you aren't giving the octopus enough credit. octopuses are incredibly intelligent animals, not too far removed from even a human's intelligence. think of it this way: if you were trying to escape, would you repeatedly try the same thing again and again? no, you would try a couple times and then find a new way because you're smart enough for that. an octopus is smart enough for this too, if it wanted to escape, it very easily could have. you aren't giving the animal enough credit, they're much smarter than you think.
They are actually able to solve puzzles, they even learn from visual observation. In one experiment, one octopus was unable to solve a puzzle the first time, but after watching another octopus that already knew how to solve the puzzle, it was able to solve its own puzzle.
velveetaslingshot you’re an idiot. I guarantee that that octopus has more intelligence than you. Now it’s your choice if you receive that as an insult, because I would estimate octopus to be the second most intelligent marine creature on earth, second only to dolphins. And maybe tied with orcas. Do some research before you start spouting your disagreement, jackass.
Who knew that something that closely related to slugs and worms could that intelligent, playful, and cuddly all at the same time?! Evolution is simply mind boggling!
L5940 This is well accurate. I actually AM an expert on cephalopod behaviour(several octopus species and several cuttlefish species). Once the octopus made for the rock crevice he was done fooling around. In fact, I was impressed by the goodwill he was still willing to show by ‘shaking hands’ with the divers when they followed him to his spot. This was an unusually friendly octopus. However, that was his final voluntary gesture of friendship, and trying to coax him out was well obnoxious. It would be like your heading home after a night of partying, and you’re utterly knackered and in the piss, but some dweeb follows you home, locks you out of your bedroom, and keeps yakking at you to go to after-hours clubs with him, even though you feel like you’re going to puke. This octopus was so easygoing and cool that he did the equivalent of shaking hands with that obnoxious tosser before saying ‘good-night’. Yet still they had to be dicks about it, and tried to climb through the bleeding window even after the door was slammed in their faces.
Pfhahaha, oh dear. Yeah, it was nice at first, but these divers should have taken some cues that the animal was done for the time being. All of its body language was a dead ringer for the octopus equivalent of a polite declination.
That octopus isn't playing, it's trying to get away from the river because it's under duress! Octopi don't expell ink for funsies, it's a defense mechanism!
This is a pretty demonstrative display of play-oriented behavior where the objective is seemingly non-purposeful tactile sensation rather than survival based activities like hunting or fleeing. Super cool.
i call this a gem of a video. however grown men should know when "no more" means NO MORE, that was the disappointing bit. I also have animals with a twist on my channel, but know when to stop filming and leave them alone.
Watching the octopus's playful behavior toward the divers put a warm smile on my face. I'm happy the divers were sweet and gentle with the octopus. It's so uplifting to see people demonstrate benevolence towards animals.
As a diver myself, I am disappointed with this. Don’t touch anything. Leave these creatures alone. Share their space with respect. I bet you were taught better. Not cool.
Past 1:50 y'all should have left it alone. Letting it come up to interact with you is one thing, but when you're actively moving it with your hands, you're making it do things it may potentially not want to do, which is wrong. I know a bunch of people will jump to the defense of the divers against this comment, but it's an honest criticism and in no way meant to be an attack.
No, you're exactly right. This is absolutely disgraceful behaviour by the diver and he's clearly incompetent and has never listened to a word he was told in training. The Octopus was stressed from the start; right at the beginning you can see it ink, they then lift it up and repeatedly prevent it from swimming to the bottom which is what that downward movement is - it's not trying to get to the diver's hand, it's trying to get to the ocean floor where it feels safe. It costs them a lot of energy to ink and it's ink reserves will now be empty such that if it needs it for defence from a predator any time soon after it will have been caught and eaten all because this incompetent diver couldn't keep his hands to himself. This is nothing more than an animal cruelty video from start to finish.
i don't think that octopus was playing. you cant just grab it like that. it was inking. idk if it's the saturation of the film, but when an octopus turns white, it is frightened.
Sammy Colon oh come on that octopus could have swim the fuck away anytime. it was playing. octopuses are known to be very intelligent animals so honestly I'm not scared at all for that cute guy.
It looks to me that it tries defense first, then flee/hide. As a fellow diver, I'd call this harassment and a violation of diving best practice. And if you don't agree, try sending the vid to a cephalopod biologist first and see what they think.
The thing wanted to scape for what I see. The man pushed it's tentacles many times to pull him back. And then he tried to hide in 1:50 but they kept pulling it out. Not funny.
Void Of Me If it wanted to escape then it would have, octopuses are extremely smart and can swim fast when they want to, plus it would have bitten the guy who was holding it if it felt threatened. They did get a little overbearing with it towards the end which I don’t agree with but the rest of the video is just a curious octopus investigating humans.
A Skeleton that's not true. they aren't perfect. the octopus had no way to turn around or leave. it was so small. it tried to leave and the diver pulled him back. they can't turn very fast and the octopus wasn't going to swim into open water because that's dangerous.
Jason Garcia actually octopuses , when they are afraid or feel threatened , the emit that black liquid ( i dont know how to say it in english , ink maybe?) And they have a huge acceleration
Octopus was one of my favorite foods until I saw some rescue videos on youtube. After I've seen what loveable creatures they are, I could never bring myself to eat one again.
Nope... it was trying to escape. Octopus swim the fastest "head"-first, and it was getting tired from the diver grabbing it over and over. It eventually realized it wasn't in mortal peril, but didn't want to interact and the rapid color changes also indicate this.
This octopus was not playing as you can see at the start the octopus sprays a bit of ink as it is trying to get away. The diver was stopping the octopus from getting away and tiring the poor animal out which led to it giving up and sitting on his hand. I have seen wild octopuses before and I know for a fact that they don’t just randomly swim into people’s hands. Being a diver myself I believe this is extremely disrespectful to the animal! Believe what you want but I know for a fact that this octopus was being abused by these divers.
Seraphene Arena it is sand that you can see at the beginning... Not ink.....and I have been diving for years and this octopus was loving the interaction
Octopus: "excuse me, can i just - yeah i just need - GOD DAMNIT LET ME GET PAST YOU!!"
Lmao
LMFAO Thats what i was thinking maybe it just wants to get by
I know right...
No
🤣🤣
That was pretty cool at first but once he went for the coral you guys should've left him alone
TheOrangeNinja Yeah they were a little overbearing with it towards the end, but if the octopus felt like it was under genuine threat it would have either swam away or inked them and then swam away.
It didn't seem that bothered with them though, and wild creatures are used to bothersome encounters with other creatures so let's not pretend it was in any way traumatised xD I'm all for animal rights and such but they're not a bunch of butthurt sjw snowflakes.
Yup.
I agree. When more than one diver got involved it was overwhelmed and clearly trying to disengage and they wouldn't let it.
I kind of wish that one dude wouldn't keep trying to touch it constantly. Like, let your other buddies have a turn with him before the lil guy gets annoyed like he did at there end. He maybe wouldn't have been so overwhelmed if he didn't keep reaching for it.
I consulted three experts, all Ph.Ds with particular interest in cephalopods/octopus. I shared the video with them and will paraphrase the things that two or more of them corroborated:
- the mantle skin of an octopus is thin and prone to damage, scarring, or infection from touch.
- solid objects are shelter to an octopus, which could explain why the octopus stays near and crawls on the divers
- escape behavior includes swimming mantle-first, which this octopus does
- all three experts said the interaction went on too long
- best practice is for observing an curious octopus is to wait patiently and immobile, allowing the animal to begin and end the interaction. Observe and do not interfere.
- this particular octopus is probably unharmed by the interaction
You've shattered my illusion, so the octopus wasn't playing with the divers?
Not really. Two of them did bring up octopus curiosity in general, but that we should explore it in a more passive way for the animal's health and safety and for ours. All of them noted definite flight behavior and felt the interaction went on too long.
Beyond this particular incident, making wildlife comfortable with well-intentioned humans makes wildlife more vulnerable to anything (human or other) that want to harm them. For this reason, all conservationists and professional organizations promote firm no-touch, no-feed policies, keeping respectful distances, and passive observation of wildlife. So, if we care, nothing about this video is right, even if they are not directly harming the octopus.
Let's be honest. These divers are not bad people, but they're trying to justify selfish, irresponsible behavior. No one who cares would condone their actions, even if the octopus were playing. Had they not touched or pursued, no one would have a problem with it. As SCUBA grows in popularity, we have be firm about good practice standards.
Knowledge is better than illusion. Dive in confidence that what you're doing is right.
globalgourmand THANKYOU FOR THIS RESPONSE!
I’ve worked with wild octopus for years I know this was wrong! My dad and uncle actually study cephalopods!
they probably did overdo it a bit, but it was able to hide away fairly soon. Yeah. Maybe a little too much but still so very cute.
Octopus was like let's play then okay I'm done...seriously I'm done..it's been nice
I think the beginning was cute but the octopus clearly had enough at the end and even became a little scared. He tried to lay low and get away yet 2 people still touched him and pushed him back.
I'm sure the octopus loved playing for a while but you guys should give the octopus enough room to escape whenever they want to.
Humans can never let well enough alone, they always have to have more, more, more. It's the story of our lives.
With a rebel yell?
L5940 I agree completely
Fucking octopus expert over here.
yeah you know if an octopus wants to gtfo. it will shoot away like a bullet.
Facinating, altho I felt that the creature had enough&wanted to leave but the divers prevented it from exiting gracefully!
I was gonna say something about how you were wrong but then I saw what you meant lol
Then why did the octopus didn’t inked?
Looks like there's a little ink right at the start of the video.
Trust me, as it’s their only way to defend themselves from predators, if the octopus would’ve really wanted to flee, there wouldn’t have been much the divers could have done about it !
Didn't seem to bother it too much, but once it looks like it's trying to hide at the end there, you should probably leave it alone. The people crowding around seemed to stress it out.
Octopus: Omg this fun! This strange weird looking creature is playing with me!
Kaia Luraas
Contrary. This gentle invertebrate was frightened and vigorously looking to escape from these alien beings which seemed determined to do it harm.
Starcloak Starside
He was definitivly not trying to escape.
Starcloak Starside
The salt is real with this one. Why don't you watch the first ten seconds? The animal could have easily escaped if it wanted to.
You are in big denial here, less educated one.
Lamashtar
Vindication. There was one part of your comment that was actually 100% correct, however, the other was slightly incorrect.
Agreed. [Octopi] “...are known to be curious creatures.”
Correction. “This one shows relaxed body movement.” is true, however the “relaxed body movement” that this octopus in specific was portraying was due to the stress and fatigue for the first minute or so of the video when the diver literally had to hold onto it with two hands to keep it from swimming away.
Ninjaananas
Amused. The first 10 seconds, eh?
Specification. Am I mistaken, or are you trying to describe the part where the diver continuously grabs the Octopus’ body and keeps blocking it from getting away?
Sarcastic. Oh, but my bachelors degree in Marine Biology in 2017 must just be the fact that I correctly guessed all the FACTS on my voluntary final project on CEPHALOPODS relies on.
Snarky. I got a 95%, and that was due to my professor’s ultra-OCD tendencies to deduct points for not making everything equilateral.
Serious. He TOLD me this, in front of the whole CLASS.
Quote-mode. “I’m sorry, [redacted], your information was 100% correct, and your research went above and beyond anyone else. This is by far the highest grade in the class. It is in every way perfect, except one. The right margin is a quarter-centimeter wider than the left.”
Suggestion. Perhaps when you make insinuations on a person’s education level, you should at least sarcastically ask, “What, do you have a degree in Marine Biology or something?” instead of doing... Whatever you call this, “comment,” and displaying just how much you do not know.
Refraining. Onto the ability for the Octopus to “swim away,” how the FUCK do you expect it to see that the diver’s hand is when it’s eyes are on the side of it’s head, which is BELOW the BODY?
Disclaimer. When I say go read a book, I’m not just deflecting, I’m telling you to get educated.
Suggestion. GO. READ. A. BOOK.
In the end the octopus seemed tired, to much touching and wanted to hine away. I understand little pit of playing but understand when it's enough.
1:18 ... it definitely wants to escape there, but the diver pulled it back. Not sure how much of this was playing but that looked a lot like an animal trying to escape.
I stopped eating octopus at sushi bars a couple of years ago. They may not be cetaceans, but these "creatures" are pretty damn smart.
I agree, can't eat them anymore, right or wrong it feels bad to kill such highly intelligent beings
Jerald Brewer All creatures are smart, sorry but I think you eat "people " in an "animal form", when you're having meat or fish (or plants..). This is not said as a religious thought, but just cause creatures are smart and we're just like them. I eat meat, but I think my "meat" has suffered as I would, while dying.
Pls also value the ability to feel.
Venus yes, you're right. I didn't mention it, but I agree with the fact that the ability to feel is common to all the living beings. (To feel pain, in this case.)
Madalyn Maree they really aint nothing great and they are tough and like shit cooked. There's a million other seafood or meat id rather have.
I love how the scuba diver couldn't stop smiling, it really shows how emotions take over.
Cephalopod's are extremely intelligent animals. They are believed to be capable of understanding basic cross-species interactions. Such as the difference between play, harm, accidents, etc. There was a video demonstrating their problem solving skills. These creatures are very smart.
Octopus: "Holy crap - it's only got four arms!"
Octopus: ...And only one brain ! What a freak !
@@metrozeegle4985 And one heart! It's a miracle!
*unzips
@@metrozeegle4985 that's impressive to determine we only had one brain
That octopus was like," this feels so goooood!"
Then everyone came around and he was like, "I'm out!"
octo looked pissed while sitting on the arm
"Yea but what if I hold you like an ice cream cone"
"I will squirm a little but not too much"
It was a lovely video until the main man started pulling it around, and all of the tag-alongs were trying to force it to play. But I suppose that's humans- whatever we get we always demand more.
Actually we're not half as bad as our monkey cousins so atleast we think about it and show empathy
Apes on the other hand will viciously rip apart other monkey species as a gang and eat their flesh sorta like a zombie would
@@acebondage9200 Youre justifying by comparing humans with apes? 😂
Mik ya because Apes are the closest species to humans
Soviet Flamethrower no Homo sapiens are actually apes were just a sub species of ape. We share 98% of our DNA with silverback gorillas
i think the problem is having an unnuanced empathetic sensibility. all my interactions with creatures go better when i pay close, more sensitive attention to them and am unobtrusive, unimposing, and less overbearing. it feels natural too; like the way it should be.
most (crass) people are used to dogs, who seem to be much more resilient when it comes to rougher casual, low brow, insensitive interaction. i've seen people (especially men) tossle around animals like this so often; every timemaking me cringe with the lack of nuance in regards to their emotional empathy for other entities. I guess this tracks with their behavior towards everything in life... that whole, "toughen up! be a man! walk it off! pull and force off that twist off cap," thing...
we all have those (usually republican) relatives who are rough and alpha colored all over (behaviorally). through other creatures reactions, we (well, some of us) see how insane this lack of attention to proper detail naturally is.
Octupus:I love this creature! This is Fun!
I like how the cameraman is like PLAY WITH ME!!!! and the octopus is like hell nah... i aint playing with anyone anymore.
I got your nose!!!
Mysti Holt You suckk I was going to say that
Mysti Holt
Correction. Actually, this diver was grabbing the Octopus’s Abdomen or Body.
Sad. The Octopus was unable to avoid the diver’s hand because the Octopus has a limited range of sight due to the position or it’s eyes on it’s head, and thus could not effectively escape this diver’s harassment.
Suggestion. Rewatch this video, but instead of just believing the title, try to imagine the amount of harassment this creature feels currently.
Starcloak Starside that makes no sense, octopuses are very intelligent, it would have turned around to see or straight up ran away in a different direction. and if it really felt threatened then it would have realeased a cloud of ink.
i think it's obvious that the octopus' was deliberately bumping into the hand seeing how it was constantly aiming at it with the tip of it's head.
RaxisESP
Confused. Hmm, turn and swim the opposite direction, you mean like it tried to do several times before flight syndrome kicked in?
Confused. I merely said to watch it over again while looking at it from a different point of view, and as is obvious you did not do what I suggested and instead decided to fight me on it.
Suggestion. If you want to see this from the point of view of the Octopus, then stop trying to view it as the Diver.
Starcloak Starside i'm giving it a closer inpection and honestly i don't know what to think anymore so i guess i'll take your word for it.
I love how the octopus seems to have preferences among the divers and is much friendlier with the middle one.. its adorable!
You can tell exactly when the little octopus had clearly had enough...I mean seriously...he wanted to leave...in the beginning yes he might have been having fun...but when he was trying to hide, you should have left him alone!
The octopus has nine brains. If they ever discover the internet we're toast.
now that's pretty frikkin funny! Only thing I'd say is once it wanted to get away, you should have left it alone.....
you know, kind of like when a dog is done fetching the ball you don't keep after it ......it seemed to really enjoy bopping in and out of your hand though! that was too funny....
Octopus gets head pats.
Also yall should have left him alone when he tried to get away into the coral.
I think he was trying to get to the stone...
People need to know when enough is enough. These people clearly have no clue. I felt bad for Octo. It was plain as day-he was Done. Poor little guy/gal. :(
The octopus is not playing. The inking at the beginning indicates it considers you a predator and is trying to escape.
seemed more like dust
When he decides to leave, that's when you LET him leave. Damn.
The intelligence of the octopus never ceases to amaze me. I've seen them open jars with screw tops. I've seen them escape their tank, travel across the room to a tank with prey, snatch the prey and slither back to their own tank. But I've never seen one actually play with humans. This little guy is a riot!!! Love the video.
Clearly it was quite exhausting for the creature, trying to escape the diver's hand...
The cutest thing😍😍😍. It looked kinda tired in the end though
Playing or not. That was adorable.
I used to think octopuses were creepy animals until I started seeing videos like this showing them playing and socializing with humans for fun.
They're like the cute doggos of the sea!
1:48 Octopus missed the hand and hit its head XD
Koru Topi lol so cute tho
he's like shit.. oh well
I fucking laughed so hard XD
Actually, that's it's abdomen. ^_^ Basically did a bit of a belly flop.
SO cute!
Koru Topi ik
All animals play to a certain extent !!!! 😕
Kurt mcKelvey Not exactly.
Kurt mcKelvey some just want to play with your guts
I wonder how a clam play
At least all which have a more complex neural system.
Yeah sure! Try getting close to a wild Komodo or a wild croc!
Um, dudes, I think that little guy was just trying to get away from you!
Thanks dude, we had plenty of back up and buddy divers. The octopus was enjoying the interaction with us. Safe diving.
It's testicles are in its head so really you were playing with his balls
Keith lolol
The octopus appeared to ink at first, but clearly became curious and playful. They are highly intelligent and inquisitive.
He was attacking you, not playing. And after he got tired and was trying to hide why did you not leave him alone??
It was not attacking the diver. No octopus "attacks" anything by aiming its mantle at the thing being attacked. That's the dumbest thing it could do, and the dumbest interpretation I've seen of its interaction.
That just blew my mind😱...in a good way. AND I will never, ever, EVER, eat Octopus ever Ever again!! LOL
Escaping not playing...
You clearly can see the creature aiming to the coral. Not the man hand.
i think often times we forget how truly bizarre an octopus is....its literally an amorphous boneless(kinda) floating head with 8 arms sticking right out of it...
*at the beginning...*
Octopus: LET ME THROUGH YOUR FUCKING HAND. I'M JUST TRYING TO SWIM AROUND, AND YO HAND IS IN MAH WAY! O~O
What started out as an innocent encounter went abusive when one side got too clingy ..
Exactly!
They really are the dogs of the ocean.
try dophins ;)
You mean sea lions are
sharks, sea lions, and octopus are sea doggo breedds
more like cats. they don't go in packs. no octo sled teams ;)
I think the octopus thought his hand was a shelter
It kind of looks like they're being rough with it
Divers: THIS IS SO COOL!!!
Octopus: I️ love playing with these weird looking creatures!!! 🐙
Octopus: Leave me alone I'm trying to go somewhere
i think since the start he tried to escape and he wasnt playing at all lol. when he stayed on the dude's arm it was just to rest some time before trying again
that was the coolest thing ever until you didn't leave him alone =/
So cute...suddenly everyone wanted to play! Little octopi got a little overwhelmed by the interaction!
Why does it feel like a woman with two men whose funny attentions quickly turn scary?
Knowing when to stop is an art.
Must be tricky, but I have never been aggressively upfront when it comes to hooking up
Seeing marine life in its natural environment is one of things that attracts people to scuba diving. Unfortunately, some divers seem to have forgotten the section of their PADI Open Water class where the instructor taught them not to touch or hassle marine life.
Well said!
Looks to me like he just wants to be left alone and kept trying to go back to the bottom and you kept screwing with him.
Its the fucking ocean, not a narrow corridor. Octopus are very smart. If he wanted to be left alone, he could have jetted out of there in a flash.
they yanked him out of his little crevice...
octopus are very VERY intelligent. they can shoot away like a bullet and shoot ink if they have to. if they're scared or mad they will change colors. i wouldn't be surprised if they are so smart that they sometimes enjoy something "new" that's interesting and stimulating.. and doesn't appear to be too much of a threat. i'm sure some octopuses would have been really freaked out by being yanked out of their crevice, but this one apparently didn't mind much or he would've sprayed ink. (and btw i don't like when people cause agitation to or bother any animals. but some wild animals do like the stimulation of interacting with humans sometimes)
yeah it's interesting the more i learn about sea life.. many creatures in the oceans often seem way less afraid of people than on land. and octopuses and eels can be very smart.. smarter than people give them credit (heck, i've even seen videos of wild fish that seem to interact with humans in a way that's more than just curiosity or looking for food. one diver i saw would go to this random bit of coral over a number of years and managed to train a little clown fish{i think} to do tricks. it would come out and greet him whenever he showed up.) there's another amazing vid of a huge moray eel that seemed to show true affection for a woman who spent years trying to earn its trust by visiting its home in the ocean until it trusted her.
Exactly! - Fuckin Octopus could've swam away anytime it wanted - it was curious and playful!
like always it's cute and then you don't know when to stop
These animals are truly amazing but I would be creeped out. Something about those tentacles man 😁
good lord it had been played with enough...
That octopus inked twice right at the beginning of the video, he was clearly stressed right from the start. This is animal cruelty, and you should be banned for it
He's not punching it. They just don't understand that the octopus didn't want to play anymore. Banning someone for not understanding something? Ridiculous
My question is, if it didn’t want to be near them, he could have easily escaped. They are fast. He kept going into the man’s hand willingly. At the end they should had backed off, but it clearly wanted to attention at first.
The first case of "octopus molesting" has taken place.
The octopus obviously had enough at the end... but you guys kept going.
Who else think it’s actually cute
Cthulhu makes some cute babies
Now they wont leave it alone lolol why so rough? like a child playing with a pet bird
It is very nice but I don t like when you force it to stay with you when the octopus want to go.
To everyone saying they were bothering the octopus:
It would've INKED or ATTACKED if it felt threatened. Octupi are quite intelligent cephalopods and this one clearly did not feel threatened.
it could have died if it inked and couldn't escape. and it didn't attack because the man was way bigger than it is and probably thought that the man would attack back.
jakai lee it also could've swam away!
It had a hard time turning away because the diver kept guiding it back into him. It is an interesting interaction, but I wouldn't say that the Octopus wasn't trying to flee, let alone "playing". It was spending a lot of energy if it was just toying with the diver, energy that it needed to survive.
Spot on! Every bit of energy conservation is vital to it's survival!
to all the people saying "the octopus was trying to escape" you aren't giving the octopus enough credit. octopuses are incredibly intelligent animals, not too far removed from even a human's intelligence. think of it this way: if you were trying to escape, would you repeatedly try the same thing again and again? no, you would try a couple times and then find a new way because you're smart enough for that. an octopus is smart enough for this too, if it wanted to escape, it very easily could have. you aren't giving the animal enough credit, they're much smarter than you think.
Hannah O
And they can spray ink to escape kinda like dropping a smoke bomb to block the bad guys view.
Not far removed from human intelligence??? Let me know when an octopus solves the string theory riddle....
They are actually able to solve puzzles, they even learn from visual observation. In one experiment, one octopus was unable to solve a puzzle the first time, but after watching another octopus that already knew how to solve the puzzle, it was able to solve its own puzzle.
Dani Slaughter Yes. The answer is four. Duh.
velveetaslingshot you’re an idiot. I guarantee that that octopus has more intelligence than you. Now it’s your choice if you receive that as an insult, because I would estimate octopus to be the second most intelligent marine creature on earth, second only to dolphins. And maybe tied with orcas. Do some research before you start spouting your disagreement, jackass.
Who knew that something that closely related to slugs and worms could that intelligent, playful, and cuddly all at the same time?! Evolution is simply mind boggling!
1:17 Let him go.
This is just awesome! The octopi obvisously likes play and be petted...those majestics creatures are so smart and playfull...i love the octopi
L5940 This is well accurate. I actually AM an expert on cephalopod behaviour(several octopus species and several cuttlefish species). Once the octopus made for the rock crevice he was done fooling around.
In fact, I was impressed by the goodwill he was still willing to show by ‘shaking hands’ with the divers when they followed him to his spot. This was an unusually friendly octopus. However, that was his final voluntary gesture of friendship, and trying to coax him out was well obnoxious. It would be like your heading home after a night of partying, and you’re utterly knackered and in the piss, but some dweeb follows you home, locks you out of your bedroom, and keeps yakking at you to go to after-hours clubs with him, even though you feel like you’re going to puke. This octopus was so easygoing and cool that he did the equivalent of shaking hands with that obnoxious tosser before saying ‘good-night’. Yet still they had to be dicks about it, and tried to climb through the bleeding window even after the door was slammed in their faces.
Pfhahaha, oh dear. Yeah, it was nice at first, but these divers should have taken some cues that the animal was done for the time being. All of its body language was a dead ringer for the octopus equivalent of a polite declination.
@N And we’re just a load of apes-pretty weak and flimsy ones, at that. What’s your point?
That’s amazing. This octopus was enjoying your touch and seemed to be enjoying your presence too.
He's not playing, he's trying to get away from you and back to the shelter of the reef.
They not only play, a pet octopus can be taught tricks. Cute little critter.
What a beautiful expierience what gentle men with my fav creature...bless these men
Octopus: "Thanks for cleaning my nose, but off with you now."
Usually octopuses only "play" with Japanese women.
Octopi*
no.
meh
ThorstenVXO u meant anime women
Aidil Nizs no.... Japanese woman 👀
That octopus isn't playing, it's trying to get away from the river because it's under duress! Octopi don't expell ink for funsies, it's a defense mechanism!
OMG that is so awesome what a wonderful experience
This is a pretty demonstrative display of play-oriented behavior where the objective is seemingly non-purposeful tactile sensation rather than survival based activities like hunting or fleeing. Super cool.
i call this a gem of a video. however grown men should know when "no more" means NO MORE, that was the disappointing bit. I also have animals with a twist on my channel, but know when to stop filming and leave them alone.
Well said!
Watching the octopus's playful behavior toward the divers put a warm smile on my face. I'm happy the divers were sweet and gentle with the octopus. It's so uplifting to see people demonstrate benevolence towards animals.
As a diver myself, I am disappointed with this. Don’t touch anything. Leave these creatures alone. Share their space with respect. I bet you were taught better. Not cool.
Spot on! thank you!
little did we know the octopus was fleeing in horror from terrifying tetropodes
Past 1:50 y'all should have left it alone. Letting it come up to interact with you is one thing, but when you're actively moving it with your hands, you're making it do things it may potentially not want to do, which is wrong.
I know a bunch of people will jump to the defense of the divers against this comment, but it's an honest criticism and in no way meant to be an attack.
No, you're exactly right. This is absolutely disgraceful behaviour by the diver and he's clearly incompetent and has never listened to a word he was told in training. The Octopus was stressed from the start; right at the beginning you can see it ink, they then lift it up and repeatedly prevent it from swimming to the bottom which is what that downward movement is - it's not trying to get to the diver's hand, it's trying to get to the ocean floor where it feels safe. It costs them a lot of energy to ink and it's ink reserves will now be empty such that if it needs it for defence from a predator any time soon after it will have been caught and eaten all because this incompetent diver couldn't keep his hands to himself. This is nothing more than an animal cruelty video from start to finish.
@@Xefan2 You have explained this very well, thank you!
Know when to say when.
i don't think that octopus was playing. you cant just grab it like that. it was inking. idk if it's the saturation of the film, but when an octopus turns white, it is frightened.
Sammy Colon oh come on that octopus could have swim the fuck away anytime. it was playing. octopuses are known to be very intelligent animals so honestly I'm not scared at all for that cute guy.
It looks to me that it tries defense first, then flee/hide. As a fellow diver, I'd call this harassment and a violation of diving best practice. And if you don't agree, try sending the vid to a cephalopod biologist first and see what they think.
Sammy Colon it wasn't inking at all!
Looks like it's ejecting ink at the beginning of the video. I count three puffs of ink.
GrahamChapman it wasn't inking, it was loving the interaction, look up inking octopus to see them doing that on utube!
the cuteness factor made my head explode
The thing wanted to scape for what I see. The man pushed it's tentacles many times to pull him back. And then he tried to hide in 1:50 but they kept pulling it out. Not funny.
Void Of Me If it wanted to escape then it would have, octopuses are extremely smart and can swim fast when they want to, plus it would have bitten the guy who was holding it if it felt threatened.
They did get a little overbearing with it towards the end which I don’t agree with but the rest of the video is just a curious octopus investigating humans.
A Skeleton that's not true. they aren't perfect. the octopus had no way to turn around or leave. it was so small. it tried to leave and the diver pulled him back. they can't turn very fast and the octopus wasn't going to swim into open water because that's dangerous.
Jason Garcia Thought octopi could ink if they're not feeling safe? Or is that a squid?
Jason Garcia actually octopuses , when they are afraid or feel threatened , the emit that black liquid ( i dont know how to say it in english , ink maybe?) And they have a huge acceleration
A Skeleton not octopuses. Its octopedes
They are always described as shy, but your video shows how tactile they really are! Thank you!
and how do they know its playing looks like its trying to get away
Tek Taloy
By swiming towards his hand?
Octopuses can swim backwards, if it wanted to get away, it could have.
plus it could always squirt ink whenever it feels threatened
It was sick of you by the end of the video. It just wanted to get away, and be left alone.
John, I and many others in these comments totally agree with you
He was happy and having fun. Laughing too they change colors when they are having fun. So cute to watch this!!
Octopus was one of my favorite foods until I saw some rescue videos on youtube. After I've seen what loveable creatures they are, I could never bring myself to eat one again.
Ya no quiso jugar porque se pegó en la cabeza por su culpa,además el juego solo era entre dos pero ahí van los metiches
Nope... it was trying to escape. Octopus swim the fastest "head"-first, and it was getting tired from the diver grabbing it over and over. It eventually realized it wasn't in mortal peril, but didn't want to interact and the rapid color changes also indicate this.
Hello what kind of dog is this thank you
Ray Adnyana
It's a Grammar and Punctuation dog.
You should get one!
CPS2 you should get a life.
This guy is soooo incredibly lucky to have befriended such a magnificent creature!!!!
This octopus was not playing as you can see at the start the octopus sprays a bit of ink as it is trying to get away. The diver was stopping the octopus from getting away and tiring the poor animal out which led to it giving up and sitting on his hand. I have seen wild octopuses before and I know for a fact that they don’t just randomly swim into people’s hands. Being a diver myself I believe this is extremely disrespectful to the animal! Believe what you want but I know for a fact that this octopus was being abused by these divers.
Seraphene Arena it is sand that you can see at the beginning... Not ink.....and I have been diving for years and this octopus was loving the interaction
You don’t know what you’re talking about sand doesn’t dissolve instantly.
Neither does it start black and turn white
Anyway I’m not going to argue anymore but I just want to say to you that what you did to that octopus was disrespectful.
Seraphene I study Animal ecology and totally agree with your analysis. I'm so pleased many people in the comments can see this too.
Plot twist: *the octopus was a paid actor*
Now that's cool he likes to play awesome