Evita: Making of a Superstar documentary

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  • Опубліковано 23 лис 2024

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  • @montanacrone8984
    @montanacrone8984 2 роки тому +13

    My favorite musical of all time! I’ve worn out two cassettes listening to them.

  • @joshnosher3536
    @joshnosher3536 Рік тому +8

    The final moments of this documentary are especially chilling and heartbreaking, in particular the part about her incorrupt body looking exactly as it did the day she died. Everything about the woman is mythical in every way. The first case of a universally larger-than-life female icon in modern times, and a rags-to-riches morality tale of almost biblical magnitude.

    • @Benjiesbeenbetter.
      @Benjiesbeenbetter. Рік тому +1

      Even in death, there are conflicting stories. The original emalmer, Dr Pedro Ara, embalmer to the stars, was sent for when Eva's body was delivered to Madrid. He stated that the only damage to the body was a slight dent in her forehead, slight flattening of her nose and a crease in her neck, all from the coffin lid having collapsed underground.
      Others who saw the body stated that there were cuts to her torso as from swords or bayonets, tar on the soles of her feet as though she had been left in a standing position on tarmac somewhere, and damage to her face that suggested repeated blows.
      It is known that the tip of one finger and part of one earlobe are missing. After Peron was ousted from power, Eva's corpse became a problem for the new government. They didn't want it to become an icon for Peronistas, and as Argentina is a Catholic country, they didn't dare cremate her. In a desperate attempt to find a way out, they used the fact that the embalming had left her body "As hard as concrete" then completed with a protective layer of plastic, and suggested that the corpse was in fact a plastic copy. Hence the removal and examination of the fingertip and earlobe.

    • @queenmedesa
      @queenmedesa 3 місяці тому

      @@Benjiesbeenbetter. There were fake wax copies too

  • @giovannirastrelli9821
    @giovannirastrelli9821 5 років тому +35

    I always felt that Eva’s relentless and obsessive hatred for the oligarchs and the bourgeois was personal, she never forgave her father’s wealthy family for the suffering they caused to her mother and siblings. She projected her inner demons and hurt onto the upper classes because she never got closure for her childhood trauma.

    • @EnzFab73
      @EnzFab73 4 роки тому +17

      I guess you're forgetting or choosing to ignore that they hated her as well and from the beginning and never would have accepted her due to her origins, class, profession, lack of education etc. This narrative that Eva started this war of the classes that existed prior to her is not accurate. What made Eva exceptional is that she didn't give a rat's behind what they thought of her and threw the dirt right back in their hypocritical faces.

    • @hornybodhisattva
      @hornybodhisattva 4 роки тому

      Evgueni Mlodik Donna Summer covered it it was awesome

    • @islandbuoy4
      @islandbuoy4 2 роки тому +4

      so what? more folks SHOULD depise the 'oligarchs' whose power rests solely with their power which is in conflict with a true representative democracy
      i.e. Oligarchy is a form of government in which a small group of people hold most or all political power.

    • @albertocastillo5763
      @albertocastillo5763 Рік тому

      How good to learn the truth from a recognized profesional! You have nothing to say about the relentless hatred by the oligarcs towards peronism from taking Argentina from the feudal Middle Ages into modern rights now recognized as universal?

    • @albertocastillo5763
      @albertocastillo5763 Рік тому

      ​@@EnzFab73perfectly well described

  • @rickramos1292
    @rickramos1292 5 років тому +23

    This was a really good documentary for those who want to know the story behind the musical for the first time and it kept my interest throughout, even though half of what is presented I already knew as a fan of this musical. It was the refreshingly unique way it told the history and the journalist asked each person she interviewed interesting questions that I had wondered the answers to myself. Does seem a bit odd that Patti LuPone's name isn't mentioned even once here but then again this is mostly on the origins of the musical and I loved the segments with Elaine Paige and the stories she told. Also enjoyed the segments with Hal Prince and Tim Rice. So nice to see a good, recent documentary on this musical for a change. Thanks Ms. Klein for all your hard work and dedication to this piece.

    • @lauraanderson8027
      @lauraanderson8027 2 роки тому +2

      I agree Patti Lupone brought Evita to the states in her own magical way! I remember when I first got cable in ‘80, which was a big thing! On WGN Chicago station, they would show the play promo for Evita (coming to Chicago) and I was mesmerized by her singing! I wish I could’ve seen it on Broadway!

  • @JamesBrown-ij1px
    @JamesBrown-ij1px Рік тому +3

    Wow! This is fantastic! I've never seen this before! So glad it came up in my feed!

  • @DLIELCLackland
    @DLIELCLackland 4 роки тому +11

    He used the words "...you don't need the mercy of the powerful" but in fact, and ironically, it was that very MERCY OF THE POWERFUL that brought the poor these good things. And, that never lasts, because once those merciful powerful people are replaced by merciless powerful people, it's all gone...

  • @ingrid2562
    @ingrid2562 4 роки тому +13

    It’s symbolic: Evita had a rejection of roles from American producers at a time but later they made films and musicals about her after her death

  • @jeanclaudebertrand5899
    @jeanclaudebertrand5899 5 років тому +15

    Esta chica era una maravilla de la naturaleza, en primer lugar por su increíble belleza, una belleza fascinante, cautivadora. Ninguna mujer en el mundo ha llegado a esta perfección. Aunque los criterios de belleza han cambiado, hoy envidiaría a las mujeres más bellas. Es imposible no enamorarse locamente mientras admira su rostro angelical. Naturalmente maravilloso, también, por todas las acciones que ha realizado para su país y especialmente para las personas en dificultades. Construcción de hospitales, orfanatos, residencias de ancianos, defensa de trabajadores CGT derecho a votar mujeres, donaciones a los necesitados. Nadie en el mundo ha hecho tanto por su gente como esta chica. Sus descamisados (sin camisa) como los llamaba cariñosamente la adoraban. Su muerte fue la mayor tragedia para su país, pero ella es y seguirá siendo por toda la eternidad la Virgen de Argentina.

    • @martinpeache2250
      @martinpeache2250 4 роки тому

      Muchas gracias por tus palabras tan apropiadas para la abanderada de los humildes!!!

    • @minstrelcat1951
      @minstrelcat1951 Рік тому +1

      Even in the UK she's been a major hero of mine since childhood 😊

    • @queenmedesa
      @queenmedesa 3 місяці тому

      She was no virgin in any sense

  • @joseluisbringaz7893
    @joseluisbringaz7893 2 роки тому +2

    ARGENTINA 🇦🇷💙🇦🇷 Simplemente Te Amooo ♥️♥️♥️ EVITA PERÓN ❤️❤️❤️🇦🇷💙🇦🇷

  • @steveweinstein3222
    @steveweinstein3222 3 роки тому +40

    "Eva Peron, the little-known wife of an Argentine president ..." Say what?!? The reason why they took her for their subject was because she was already universally well known!

    • @queenmedesa
      @queenmedesa 2 роки тому +2

      They have never heard of her

    • @islandbuoy4
      @islandbuoy4 2 роки тому +3

      @Jen’s Cozy Airbnb what is a household name to a yankee doodle dandy ignorant of world affairs? enlighten me?

    • @Benjiesbeenbetter.
      @Benjiesbeenbetter. Рік тому +2

      ​@jenscozyairbnb6117 At the time the original album came out, 1976, she was still well remembered and even people who weren't born yet when she died were aware of, at least, her name if not her story. She had been one of the most famous women in the world and one of the most powerful.
      The USA would have been aware of her, as they regarded any political upheaval in South America as being on their doorstep. It's been speculated that her and her husband's regime helped set Che Guevara on his revolutionary path, and the US were certainly aware of him and his pals in Cuba.

    • @steveweinstein3222
      @steveweinstein3222 Рік тому +1

      @jenscozyairbnb6117 While perhaps not a household name in the U.S., she was well known for her legendary status in Argentina. And it wasn't because she was Peron's wife. It was because of her outsized personality and her single-handedly remaking Argentina from an oligarchy into a welfare state.

    • @minstrelcat1951
      @minstrelcat1951 Рік тому +3

      And tbf someone can be well known to most of the worlds population without being well known in the US. Its just one country. Tho I agree universally known is overstating it a wee lot!! 😂😂😂

  • @ZacBrzuchalski
    @ZacBrzuchalski 5 років тому +30

    wonderful..... but should have also interviewed Patti Lupone.

    • @giovannirastrelli9821
      @giovannirastrelli9821 5 років тому +3

      Zac Brzuchalski I think this documentary only covers the West End productions.

    • @colinlaw4434
      @colinlaw4434 3 роки тому +1

      The reason they didn't was because she was terrible

    • @wwozanewmusical
      @wwozanewmusical 3 роки тому +1

      @@colinlaw4434 this is the 100th time i have heard patti sucks ff stage and is a really nasty piece of work when she doesn't get her way.

    • @queenmedesa
      @queenmedesa 2 роки тому +1

      She had a fight with Lloyd Webber because he casted Glenn Close on Broadway instead of her for Sunset Boulevard

    • @barbraseville8984
      @barbraseville8984 Рік тому

      ​@@colinlaw4434what an ignorant statement

  • @wilmanforigua5006
    @wilmanforigua5006 2 місяці тому

    Evita vive... tantas actrices y cantantes quieren parecérsele ...pero ella es única!!!

  • @KP-nf4yl
    @KP-nf4yl 20 днів тому

    Brilliant video! 👏🤍👏

  • @MikeManning-p8u
    @MikeManning-p8u Місяць тому

    There are a lot of similarities between Eva Peron and Madonna. Both were loved and hated at the same time by many people. Both grew up grew up in a middle or lower class background and rose to wealth, fame and power by the time they were 30 years old. Both left their homes at a young age to search for a better life. Both used fashion and their sex appeal to gain popularity. Both used their power and fame to help people who are outcast of society. Both of them were brave and outspoken and they were punished for their outspokenness. Both of them made it on their own. Both of them used people along the way to gain more fame and wealth. Both of them will live on as iconic figures.

  • @amyclarke41
    @amyclarke41 3 роки тому +4

    good on stage and film

  • @edwaldocamargo4387
    @edwaldocamargo4387 9 місяців тому +1

    Evita foi vista como uma Sta em vida e depois da vida continuou a vista como Sta pelo povo argentino

  • @proinloin
    @proinloin Рік тому +1

    A Masterpiece!!!

  • @ramiro041
    @ramiro041 4 роки тому +9

    Saying someone would rather die to be famous than living is rather repulsive to hear

  • @exadios8736
    @exadios8736 Рік тому +5

    I would hardly call Evita Peron as "the little know wife of an Argentine president". Both Evita and Juan Peron were world famous when the song was written. And as they are today.

    • @123malichi
      @123malichi Рік тому +1

      Though most outside Argentina had heard of her till Andrew Lloyd. Webber

  • @sheenaghmcmahon9665
    @sheenaghmcmahon9665 Рік тому +1

    I saw this on stage and was blown away and of course Lloyd Webber is a musical genius. Sociologically though nobody ever makes a thing of men being ambitious so why is an ambitious woman always framed as noteworthy, almost unfemale and why are people so surprised when someone working class achieves political power as if they don't have adequate intelligence?

  • @billysullivan6788
    @billysullivan6788 3 роки тому +7

    For F's sake!!! Where the hell is Mandy Patinkin in this.
    Antonio Banderas is AWWWFULLL

  • @merlotmerlot1
    @merlotmerlot1 4 роки тому +5

    I've visited Eva Peron's mausoleum at La Recoleta, her story is fascinating as divisive a figure she remains to many. This entire documentary is done so well sadly, the mere mention of a fellow New Yorker and his repeat visits to Broadway was cringeworthy. Who cares a flying fig about such a man? Patti LuPone's performance was extraordinary. What a way to muck up this otherwise positive experience.

    • @paigeleigh2554
      @paigeleigh2554 2 роки тому

      I have just booked a flight to Buenos Aires, including this famous museum.
      I cannot wait!

  • @jeanclaudebertrand5899
    @jeanclaudebertrand5899 5 років тому +5

    Cette fille était une pure merveille de la nature, d'abord par son incroyable beauté, une beauté fascinante, envoutante. Aucune femme au monde n'est jamais arrivée a cette perfection. Bien que les critères de beauté ont changé, elle ferait palir d'envie les plus belles femmes actuelles. Impossible de ne pas tomber éperdument amoureux en admirant son visage d'ange. Bien évidemment merveilleuse aussi pour toutes les actions qu'elle a réalisé pour son pays et surtout pour le peuple en difficulté. Construction d'hopitaux, d'orphelinats, maisons de retraite, défense des travailleurs CGT droit de vote des femmes, dons aux necessiteux. Personne au monde n'a jamais autant fait pour son peuple que cette fille. Ses descamisados (sans chemise) comme elle les appelait affectueusement lui vouait une véritable adoration. Sa mort a été la plus grande tragédie pour son pays mais elle est et restera pour l'éternité la madone de l'Argentine

  • @ramiro041
    @ramiro041 5 років тому +8

    a few weeks ago was her 100th birthday anniversary, May 7th 1919

    • @gioPHL
      @gioPHL 4 роки тому +1

      Wow. 100 years old?! Happy Birthday Madonna. LMAO.

  • @1marilynable
    @1marilynable 5 років тому +9

    I love that they have a clip of drag race. Im gonna do an evita mix soon :)

  • @vicenteramirezceleridadjr4158
    @vicenteramirezceleridadjr4158 2 роки тому +1

    Marvelous!

  • @corinnecivish7673
    @corinnecivish7673 Рік тому +2

    Her detractors liked to portray her as a Marie Antoinette sort of figure, but they forget that she was completely aware of the suffering of the lower and working classes, and she truly cared about them. She was human, and so were the people around her. Of course mistakes were made. Of course ambition ruled. Of course there was corruption and greed. But was there really more than what existed before or after? In the mean time women got the vote, oversaw the completion of over 4,200 health care facilities, construction of more than 1,000 kindergartens and over 8,000 schools, including several hundred technological, nursing and teachers' schools, among an array of other public investments, the construction of 650,000 new, public sector homes, as well as of the international airport, one of the largest in the world at the time. Twenty years after her death they were still finding caches and warehouses of goods like sewing machines and household goods slated for distribution, that were forgotten about or hoarded for another purpose, after Peron was ousted in a military coup a few years after Eva's death.

  • @nunyabizness3642
    @nunyabizness3642 3 роки тому +2

    How come there is no link to the documentary by Carlos Bencini Hanson? I can't find it anywhere 😕

  • @queenmedesa
    @queenmedesa 3 місяці тому

    Screw the Broadway critics, they're just jealous of Lloyd Webber because his musicals are so successful

  • @burthuffman2802
    @burthuffman2802 2 роки тому +6

    People seem to be stuck on the plays, my choice was the movie which was flawless. The plays are limited but movies are always huge, compared. So much more can be done with a movie. I thought Madonna was a perfect choice. Plus you can see the movie anytime. Once the plays are gone, they are gone. Lapone breaks eardrums and doesn't finish her lines. Movies don't have to be as loud as the plays. Will take the movie over a play anytime. This is only an opinion.

  • @horaciosacco2538
    @horaciosacco2538 Рік тому +1

    Don't forget never the 2 ships full presents and food for one Chist mas that Evita once sendet to England...

  • @DLIELCLackland
    @DLIELCLackland 4 роки тому +10

    Eva Peron obviously did some good things for the poor and disenfranchised, but she did it in a non-democratic way (top-down decisions). It was her 'generosity and good will' and perhaps her identification with outcasts that motivated these acts. So while the Peron-supporter (silver-haired gentleman who's peaks good English) says that Peron's message was something like, "You don't have to ask others to 'give' you what is your right," the truth is that it was only because Eva/Peron decided to 'give it to them' that women got the vote and the poor got things they should have had. They weren't given 'democratic rights' and a true voice in government, were they? It was a hand-out...good but in the end, totally based on their will. I find his statement well-meant but ironic and false.

  • @kevinwilson3609
    @kevinwilson3609 4 роки тому +6

    In fact, neither Bandares nor Ricky Martin played Che as Che Guevara

    • @merlotmerlot1
      @merlotmerlot1 4 роки тому +2

      Che and Evita never met anyway so I suppose you can simply call this poetic license.

    • @kevinwilson3609
      @kevinwilson3609 4 роки тому +1

      @@merlotmerlot1 Making the character Che Guevera was poetic license. Making the character just anybody takes away a major theme

    • @queenmedesa
      @queenmedesa 2 роки тому +1

      Nobody said he was supposed to be Che Guevara

    • @queenmedesa
      @queenmedesa 2 роки тому

      BanderAs

  • @johnunvaxxed1918
    @johnunvaxxed1918 5 років тому +3

    who is singing in the first minute?

    • @emmabarnes5128
      @emmabarnes5128 5 років тому +1

      John D I think it’s Emma Hatton x

  • @nat2002
    @nat2002 5 років тому +4

    My dad is from Cuidad Evita 👀

  • @bartorey9694
    @bartorey9694 5 років тому +7

    I Live in los toldos

  • @lepetitchat123
    @lepetitchat123 2 роки тому +7

    No mention of Patti LuPone, probably the best actress who ever played Evita.

    • @queenmedesa
      @queenmedesa 2 роки тому +2

      She sued Lloyd Webber because he casted Glenn Close on Broadway instead of her for Sunset Boulevard

  • @queenmedesa
    @queenmedesa 2 роки тому +3

    What happened to her embalmed body was movie material

  • @nicholaspascale3701
    @nicholaspascale3701 2 місяці тому

    Oh, Susy how I'd love to talk to you!😊

  • @Massev6871
    @Massev6871 2 роки тому +2

    Was it not Isabelle Peron who brought Evita's body back from Spain?

  • @javiercortes5232
    @javiercortes5232 7 місяців тому

    TV serial "Santa Evita" is really good: subject, acting, editing, dialogue, production

  • @burdadoako97
    @burdadoako97 4 роки тому +2

    Done na ako syo

  • @santiagobassi3569
    @santiagobassi3569 3 роки тому +8

    Nobody like MADONNA!

  • @nicholeandalby
    @nicholeandalby 5 років тому +3

    I thought it was uteran cancer not ovarian and that the embalmer spent two years not kne.

    • @dasharound4371
      @dasharound4371 3 роки тому +2

      Cervical Cancer that matastised.

    • @meeeka
      @meeeka 11 місяців тому

      Now we know that cervical cancer is from the HPV virus, her husband's first wife also died of cervical cancer as well, which leads me to believe that it's something with which he gifted her.

  • @stopthelies4249
    @stopthelies4249 5 років тому +5

    They never had a black woman cover Evita songs. Love to hear that Patti LaBelle would tear it up.

    • @OffdaWill
      @OffdaWill 5 років тому

      Audra McDonald covered Rainbow High, there's a video on here. I think she'd be great.

    • @rtfgmf123
      @rtfgmf123 3 роки тому +2

      Donna Summer had several interesting videos to "dont cry for me....

    • @seabreaze4243
      @seabreaze4243 Рік тому

      But we had a multi-racial Evita :
      ua-cam.com/video/ivOrKizry94/v-deo.html
      My favorite...

  • @The-Musical-Lover
    @The-Musical-Lover 5 років тому +6

    17:25 ever since that I can't stand some of those concert singers who know nothing about the show and act like emotional crybabies everytime they sing the song LOL. Political speech.

  • @constancewalsh3646
    @constancewalsh3646 Рік тому +1

    Best I've seen yet - that is, the most interesting.
    And yet, the Eva Peron musical story shows another appropriation of a person vital to a people and a culture
    most Europeans and Americans know nothing of (beyond the tango), nor do they care.
    No matter that it's an artistic venture, it would not have been created without a pretty good idea of a successful
    bottom line.
    Imagine if Argentinians decided to make their own version of President John F. Kennedy's life and times!
    You cannot imagine it without feeling some fire rise in the spine.
    Only in recent years has consciousness and conscience begun to arise around the theft
    of artifacts in other countries brought to museums in the large monied cities of the western world.
    This is not so very different, never mind that permission was granted to use the Casa Rosa (stories of
    seduction, sexy but not always sexual, however, have no cultural boundaries.)
    It's as though ownership of anything you want is for the taking.
    I can no longer obliviously enjoy documentaries like this.

    • @Benjiesbeenbetter.
      @Benjiesbeenbetter. Рік тому

      The musical is British. British and Argentine history have been entwined since the 19th century. I worked with a man whose father would turn the radio off if Dont Cry for me Argentina was playing because he'd lost all his money when Peron nationalised the English owned meat packing company he had invested in.

    • @queenmedesa
      @queenmedesa 3 місяці тому

      Kennedy wasn't a saint neither!

  • @leighwinson9859
    @leighwinson9859 5 років тому +14

    Too bad Madonna ruined the movie...play was amazing

    • @dean9235
      @dean9235 Рік тому +3

      Madonna did not ruin the film. She was excellent.

  • @goldeneve
    @goldeneve 5 років тому +1

    22:00 Well there’s my answer

  • @ikkespillendekarakter3924
    @ikkespillendekarakter3924 6 місяців тому

    Thatcher and Trump were great leaders, so good for them.

  • @kevinwilson3609
    @kevinwilson3609 4 роки тому +5

    Parker didnt service Rice or ALW's text or history. He made a big mess that made no sense.

    • @queenmedesa
      @queenmedesa 2 роки тому +1

      But Jonathan Pryce was great !

  • @hefinrosser8685
    @hefinrosser8685 4 місяці тому

    She was older at her death. She altered her dat of birth xx

  • @queenmedesa
    @queenmedesa 3 місяці тому

    The truth is she wasn't a saint nor Cinderella!

  • @michellepatrick7704
    @michellepatrick7704 5 років тому +8

    What a stupid comment from Suzy Klein about Donald Trump. Uncalled for and why bring him in at all? Bizarre.

    • @leighwinson9859
      @leighwinson9859 5 років тому +3

      Because he's a wanna be dictator...duh

    • @asenaemre
      @asenaemre 4 роки тому +4

      ...because of the growing fear of populism by the 1% and the middle classes (inc the narrator/scriptwriter) who falsely associate all populism with 'dictatorship' and are unaware of their own centrist-reactionary assumptions, even while they are almost wholly responsible for economic decline and consequent mobilization of ordinary people. The wonder is, they believe in 'democracy' except when the very demos are mobilized by a 'dictator'. In other words, they do not want the demos to mobilize. Interesting, eh?

    • @queenmedesa
      @queenmedesa 2 роки тому

      He likes musicals?

  • @rtfgmf123
    @rtfgmf123 3 роки тому +1

    She persecuted Jehovah Wintnesses!

  • @trex1563
    @trex1563 3 роки тому +2

    UGH. I loath sopranos screeching their way through this role. Especially mannered musical theatre sopranos.... LuPone. Call LuPone....

    • @michellekeeling3392
      @michellekeeling3392 Рік тому +1

      Elaine Paige’s voice is sublime. LuPone is like finger nails on a black board.

    • @tblack7441
      @tblack7441 Рік тому

      Julie Covington still tops them all

    • @trex1563
      @trex1563 Рік тому

      Meh@@tblack7441

  • @lydiasusanalainoazzarini9632
    @lydiasusanalainoazzarini9632 7 місяців тому

    Horrible peli me fui del.cine en la mitad