Who needs a Grom? - Benelli TNT 125 Review
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Who needs a Grom? - Benelli TNT 125 Review: I love small capacity bikes and I particularly like the machines that are designed to be ridden for pure fun, the Benelli TNT 125 is one such bike - a hoot to ride and great to look at. Who wouldn't like one of these tucked up in their garage?
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I had a grom previously - these bikes are awesome. You do feel as if you are doing something illegal, it is just way too fun. Makes you grin from ear to ear :D
Agreed!
I run a Grom alongside my Street Triple. They’re chalk and cheese, but for my shortish commute through town, it’s absolutely brilliant. I have a blast on it, it runs on peanuts and it can cut through traffic faster than its bigger sibling. You’re right though, it needs a comedy exhaust to get the full fun experience. I have a Yoshi RS2 Mini which sounds suitably ridiculous. All pops and burbles. Highly recommend this category of bike, once you get into the frame of mind that people are laughing with you, not at you. 😉
Yes I am quite tempted I must admit...
I have one and its a fantastic bike. I ride through the Tyne Tunnel for free everyday. Most people would use this for short rides but it is a great bike, more comfortable than a Grom to sit on for any distance. Two grand bike, £18 road tax, 80+ mpg, able to lane split all the traffic at the Silverlink road works and I smile from ear to ear everytime! Reliability has been fine apart from one bolt that came loose for the gear selector. I couldn't tell you what resale value would be like because its such a new bike but they are selling really, really well in my area. It is only two grand so how much could it lose? I'm seeing more of them around as time passes. I've seem more of these than Groms near me. Only major issue was insurance...its not on their systems so the best people for insurance for one of these is BeMoto (I recommend), Adrian Flux or Lexham for what amounts to a bespoke quote for the bike. It might be something to do with MotoGB, I don't know but it seems to be a common issue with many of the bikes in their various ranges.
I have spoken to an insurance company today about this - if the bike isn't "on the system" then it would require a manual referral to an insurance underwriter (which is done by phone apparently) so it is possible to get insurance, just takes a while for the referral....pain though I agree. But other than that, what a fun bike - £1700 new on the website of the dealer I use!
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I love that style of license plate holder. Looks way less intrusive and probably is better as a mudguard. Plenty of premium brands should take note.
I would like to see Jeremy Clarkson on one of these.
Jeremy Clarkfather and son.
Really enjoyed that review because you were fair and didn't rubbish it because it's Chinese and a 125cc. We all have to start somewhere and need your advice more than ever TMF !
I have one of these and love it. I was going to go for the grom but glad I didn’t.
Yes a right hoot these little bikes aren't they - and great value too....
If Benelli get one thing right on their bikes, it's the sound (speaking from personal experience)! I _can't_ wait for you to do more Benelli reviews, perhaps even a long-term somewhere down the line? :)
I'd love too - not easy to get hold of though unfortunately, I was really lucky to get a go on this....
I bought one!. Customized it as a scrambler for a few hundred pounds, and mostly ride it off road. Great fun, parts are very cheap, and it just offers something completely different to my road bike. They are built to a price, but generally the quality and finish is good. I changed the battery to a sealed gel unit, changed the tires to the Maxxis M6024, got rid of the ugly rear mudguard/number plate holder, and put on a better quality chain. Also you can play with the front sprocket and go down to 14 teeth for more torque (good for off road) or up to 16 teeth for more top end grunt.
Hey do you have more info on your scrambler build? Thanks!!
@@tracyskorka1479 its very easy, and not expensive. The modicications also work well for both on and off road riding. Remove the rear mudguard and install a „tail tidy”. Options on ebay. Put on a set of handguards to protect your hands and the levers. Replace the Chinese tires with a set of Maxxi’s, or use another brand, but the Maxxi’s work well for all types of riding. Change the standard battery for a Yausa gel battery because the standard batteries have a record of leaking and you will drop the bike as you venture off road!. That’s the standard „scrambler build”. From here you can play with items like front or rear sprockets to create either more torque, or more power. I would also recommend a chain uograde to a brand like DID, but you can wait until your standard chain needs replacing to save money.
Little Ducati amazing sound. The price is crazy. Im tempted to look at one.
That looks bloomin brilliant. 2 Grand! Love the MV Agusta style exhausts and the red frame. Got to 50 no problem as well.
My only concern with bikes with the tiny wheels is they're as easy as a scooter to chuck in a van.
True...but what a hoot!
Agreed, had me googling my nearest Benelli dealer.
yes i know they look quite nick able..I've got a good Chubb lock and tie it to street furnishers in a very public place. Thieves wouldn't risk an angle grinder because there's too many nosy people about....
I use my tiger 800 to commute n go cross country then I have my 2017 grom to play with n I love it . Good review
Reminds me of my Honda Z50. Now that was a tiny bike that was indestructible and a total blast to ride. At 6'4" now I doubt very much I could ride it. This bike looks equally as fun as a local commuter. Love the looks too.
Yes it sure does look the biz doesn’t it...
Just watched your review on 125 Grom and you said that it is built in China the way I view it is that it does not matter where they build it they still have to build to a standard for each country that they send them to. Great video I can't wait to the next one.
I agree - I have no issue with where a bike is made as long as it's good!
Have you told Honda that the "Grom" is being made in China????!! You may win a "prize" ¨cose Honda do not know this.
great vid.thanks for your effort. it's the first review i have seen to go all round the bike even show the dash and little details. Great looking bike.
That may be the best sounding 125cc on the market: even through a cell phone and across UA-cam (and the Atlantic ocean for that matter) it seems good enough to actually be a selling point for the bike. Excited to see more of it! :)
I wonder if you can get them in the US?
TheMissendenFlyer I think you're right, I'm not seeing them for sale here, rats. Another bike we don't have is the 250cc v-strom. I can only think it's some kind of politics at play or maybe they just don't feel there's a market for them? There are already 3 small 125s right now and it seems this Benelli is a little late to the party. I would love to find stats on bike sales, interested to know just how big a market there is for these little bikes.
Hi Mr. Flyer. Looked somewhat perilous as you filtered though you long cast shadow gave an impression of a grown man having great fun with his son's toy. Fab vid. Yours Ian
Cheers Ian - it was brill!
I ride my TNT to work around 3 /4 times a week, a 14 mile round trip and it's great fun. Probably not as good as the grom, but a grand cheaper makes it worth considering.
Yes I thoroughly enjoyed riding it too!
Love it 🤣, if u can get hold of Benelli, can u do a first impression of the Benelli Leoncino 500 😎👍
Err dunno, will see what I can do.....
Benelli Leoncino 500 trail please
sean landberg TRK 502 X please 👌🏻👍🏻
Nice to see a video where someone says "I'll put the ....... (specs) up in the video later while editing" and actually does that :)
:0)
Sister got one for her 18th but she’s never properly road it for some reason so I’m getting it when I turn 17 in 15 now can’t wait done some clutch control in the drive and that im 5’7 feels great very light and easy to move
Cool!
Honestly looks really cool. Your Charlie Brown comment had me cracking up. !!!
What motorcycling is all about - having fun. That looked like an absolute hoot to ride TMF! Well played Benelli.
Agreed!
Looks like a lot of fun which is what it's all about at the end of the day. 😊
Indeed it is!
Might get myself one. Got a full license but fancy some fun which wont cost me much
I saw this late lol. I have 22 Grom & 135 TNT. I sold the grom last week and that says it all about what bike is better for me
The Benelli is cool looking isn’t it….
That looks like great fun....looks great and sounds good....it's even got a hugger and a half mudguard fitted to keep the shock protected and the spray off your back....as you say...if it was a reasonably short commute it'd be a hoot!.....well done Benelli.
Yes I think they've really hit the spot with this, I'm surprised we don't hear more about them....
What a great little review of a great little bike I was toying with the idea of the Honda from as people rave about them but after this review from you I’d consider the Benelli looks good only thing I bet they eat the tires been that small but price wise what a bargain as usual top video keep up the great work and keep safe
Thank you Jon - willco....
Chinese bikes are questionable, EXCEPT for this Benelli. It has a 12 month warranty , fuel injection, oil cooler. Try the China Rider forum for info from owners. Ride safe. GREAT VIDEO.
They actually come with a 2 year warranty, cant argue with that.
I had the use of something similar when my quad bike was in for repair,very loud exhaust and would pop a wheelie without even trying I was very sad to give it back a fun,fun,fun machine,TMF something for everyone “brilliant”
I agree - max fun per £
I looked into purchasing one of these bikes a few weeks ago, sadly some of the insurance companies don't recognise the bike on their systems. Meaning some younger riders have to pay £1,000 just for the insurance alone. I went with the Grom in the end £150 for the whole year :)
Nuts! Wonder why that is.....
Good review. I like the fact you review smaller capacity ( real world bikes). Brings back memories of days when getting out and riding was as simple as jumping on and away we go. Bike looked a perky little number.At 6 ft 4 - sadly a little small for me though !
Thank you Ian...and I think at 6'4" you would be ideal ;0)
I think you would be surprised! I've ridden a grom for two years and I am 1m92 with a 36 inch inseam, but being thin helps for the suspension ;-]
We get the 135 in the state's. That ones had a cat delete pipe added in. Almost a must do. I was excited about a grom this year them torn by the release of the 125 Monkey but one ride on the 135 fixed it for me. 2599 can't be beat for all you get.
I agree - a cracking little bike!
@@TheMissendenFlyer fast forward to 2022 and they are found in the 2k price range. I purchased one for 1800 slightly beat up but the engine is strong. Added some new tires and I’m using to teach my oldest how to ride (14). He’s investing some chore money for new plastics and a non duct taped seat. I think it’s a perfect start for him.
For someone new to the wonderful world of bikes I think this would be a hoot, great looks and sound and all at £2k....spot on. As always cheers TMF 👍
Actually I just checked the website - £1700 and one could be yours! Bargain....
Such a great little bike, and here in the states it is a 135 with 13 bhp. Even more fun!
Cool!
Hello TheMissendeFlyer
Entertaining vid, as usual!
While they are present, Benelli is sort of esoteric in the US, so it's cool to see a review of one!
I'm very interested in the TNT300, and would love to see a first ride on one!
Not sure how well that would do under my 17 stone, on my 30 mile each way trip to work. Would have to leave for work yesterday to get in for my shift today. LoL
Yeah, possibly not the bike for you then Ken......
TheMissendenFlyer think I'll stick to my desire for a cb1300 super four.
Best rear end Ive seen since Kylie Minogue! 😉
You need to get out more Steve.... Good to hear from you again!
TheMissendenFlyer 😂😂😂
I had the Honda Msx 125 which it’s called for the Uk market great little bike, only sold it as I had the Honda mode 125 scooter which is the same weight buy greater carrying capacity especially with a top box ideal shopping trolley!😂😂
Nice for busy cities with parking problems. I'm trying to find a practicle use for this funbike 😋
20 seconds in and im subbing :) love your energy
Thank you and welcome along!
@@TheMissendenFlyer would you recommend one of these or a benelli bn 125 ?
@@jaythecub8034 what did you decide on? I'm in same predicament but leaning towards this for the fun factor. Then do big big test when I have my confidence.
What a cool little bike and great sounding too! I've gotten to look at the Honda Grom close up and it's an awesome little bike as well.
Yes and this is very much in a similar vein but 2/3rds the price!
"Better than a season ticket for the trains!" Brilliant. And it does sound fabulous Charlie Brown!
Cool. The BN302 is a handsome bike too, and sounds good stick. Cheap as chips, euro styling. Sadly the same worries as most Chinese jobs, you lose most of your money the second you buy it.
Well at £2K new even if you only had it for a year and binned it you will have had good value!
TheMissendenFlyer not wrong!
Would be great if you could do a review of the Honda Grom for comparison (please!!!!!!)
Personally, I'd rather pay the extra grand and get Honda build quality, reliability, resale value, parts availability and a decent warranty.
Plus after a bit of googling, it looks like the Grom does an extra 50+mpg to the Benelli TNT, which is worth the money alone. If someone can get 185mpg out of one, then I can get 200 ;-).
A Benelli mini? Wow! We don't get any of the fun stuff here in the states!
The MV-style pipe is cool!
Cool and informative video, as usual.
Is it safe to hope for a review of the TNT 600??
Well these bikes aren't that easy to find here, but if I can, I will!
TheMissendenFlyer It's the same here in the states, the nearest Benelli to where I live is about 100 miles away!
2k for a fun second bike or filter machine for those with bigger bikes or lightweight commuter is a great deal. All in all your looking at £15 a month petrol £17 tax and the standard mot. So first year riding under £4k most come with 2 year warranty.
The whole Chinese thing is a matter of not where it's built but how. This things light enough that your mate Terry could lift it so you save money on paddock stands!
"your mate Terry could lift it..." yeah and there comes one of the negatives of these bikes.. they are easy to 'lift'
+sirico ...agreed!
If you said 2,000 for that new, that super cheap!! Look the aftermarket exhaust. Beautiful country over there in the UK, not as Beautiful as my Arizona Desert lol. Keep up the awesome work man.
Cheers JJ - and you heard right, a very cheap motorcycle - on the Fun/$ rating it's off the scale! ...and yes, leafy Buckinghamshire where I leave could not be different to where you live! (Both beautiful though)....
Freudian slip up? I think you mean "where I live "..... 8-) but being South-Bucks born and breed, I can confirm it is leafy and beautiful.
just got an 18plate. model. 1500 miles. for £1300.
ideal for taking with the campervan.
Perfect!
Bet you had your ear plugs in! Looks great fun but the novelty would soon wear off, maybe even before it gets nicked. For a commuter the Honda PCX 125 makes more sense, quieter too! Hope you can get to try one.
"the novelty would soon wear off".. really ? Then u advocate and promote a pcx125 hahahaa
splodge 57 it's a great little scooter, just bought one myself.
The seating position is over the top of a bar across the bike. You're effectively sitting on it. The small wheels make any pothole seem enormous. The difference between the benelli and a bike with normal sized wheels is that a proper bike makes potholes easy. How can it be smooth unless you're on a perfectly flat track. The power is good and smooth. The so-called lightweight bike is more than 20Kg more than the grom. The gearbox is good and the quality is fine. My son is six foot tall and he says he cant keep his knees under the tank. I never hear some of the things that I've written here. I think most of these review guys are trying to make themselves popular with the local dealers.....
Not me I can assure you - I have more than enough manufacturers and dealers trying to lend me bikes!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I think that's my point. There are a lot of influencers doing the sales pitches for motorcycle manufacturers. I'd probably do it too. You get to ride a lot of bikes and they get to sell more motorcycles. It's a win-win. However, there are limitations to the TNT125. I ride a XT250 and a W800 and they are more comfortable and better for anything more than a short ride to the local train station. And just an addition to my comment about weight. THe benelli is 20Kg more than the Grom and the Z125. That's significant. But lets go our separate ways. Enjoy!
my son just bought it as his first bike, cute little machine. Honda grom costs twice as much and don't think it's better..
How's the benelli holding up now?
Fun Share !
Great little Grom Fighter :)))
Hey TMF! Catching up on lots of your previous clips during lockdown. Brilliant way to pass the time in between ordering and fitting parts to my Tracer!! I love these little bikes. Never tried one but seriously interested in a Monkey/Grom or one of these. My mate is a Benelli dealer. Dangerous. This would be perfect for going out with my scooter pals. The Tracer is just too quick with them. Question - did you feel/look a bit "daft" on it or were you having so much fun you just didn't care!
Actually i was having so much fun i didn't care....but I'm with you, the "what do I look like" thing puts me off a bit.....shouldn't really care of course!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I know what you mean. That's why it would be great for group scooter rides maybe. Cheers!
Great little review as always, TMF. Fantastic looking little bike. How about testing the Benelli TRK 502? (Only seen 2 UK reviews so far).
If I can get hold of one I'd love to!
I agree or the BN302.. or Leoncino.
I did my CBT on one of these.brill little bike. Where are they for sale at 2 grand please.
I just wouldn't feel safe on such a small machine, lacking any road presence. Do you have any plans to review the new BMW850GS.I always respect your honest reviews.
I do indeed - as soon as a demo becomes available I hope to be bringing you a review!
TMF, perhaps a nudge from you would ensure 'Principal Insurance' has this bike on their system? What a great little bike. Kindest regards. A82 Joe.
I'm not sure I carry any weight - I will ask though why some bikes don't seem to be recognised....
Try find parts on ebay benelli vs Honda grom, look for quality and availability main opinion best quality Honda grom
This is a cool bike and review! can you please make a review of 2020 Benelli 302S. It is a new bike and looks really nice the especially green one, has dual disc ABS front brake but has mixed reviews. Most complains are about the gearbox shifting down and finding neutral. Also, some guys don't like foot position on the bike. I really like your reviews so I would like to know what are you thinking about Beautiful Benelli 302S :-)
What a cracking looking bike. Build a bigger machine around the MT09 engine. What a naked hooligan machine that would be!!
i would still rather get a older grom for similar price so then its easier to do things to
Fair enough...
That looks like a blast! I think I would be grinning like an idiot every time I rode it. It would be great fun to park it outside a biker bar, or better yet, to see someone recreate Long Way Round on it (You could always carry it if it became tired.).
...now there's an idea....
I really like small bikes, this isn't my thing but they are still very cool. I just wish we were able to have 2T versions so silly funzies :D
"have 2T versions so silly funzies" - no idea what you're on about m'fraid....all the best - TMF
TheMissendenFlyer sorry, I'll translate: it'd be awesome if these little bikes were 2 stroke 125cc bikes, as they were a lot of fun when I was growing up.
Top review. Must try one.
I live on a predominant JDM. Before the Grom/Z125 became popular on the west; those things cost under a grand. But now...... it cost twice as much.
Yep - that's free market economics for you!
The world is just unfair. Even with an Engineering degree, my work hours cost less compared to an undergrad in the west. Global economy is ridiculous. I want a new world order. LOL
I knew they had a 135 cc model I didn't know they had a 125 cc model.
you get a lot of bike for the money on these little 125's, they are great fun!
You sure do!
Do think the mainstream manufactures need to take Chinese bikes seriously. Being so much cheaper they will sell, if they prove reliable they will take more market share, a little like the Japanese did in the 70's. Saying all that when you revved it up it sounded very much like my Toro Turf Master mower.
Love it :0) ...and the Toro Turf Master is one of my faves!
Looks like a lot of fun. I thought the passenger seat was hilarious though.
Yeah, can you imagine!!!
Now same price as a grom. $4800 AUD Grom or $4300 135 tnt. In my eyes price isn’t helping benelli but I just purchased a new one even at new price
Fab little bike, great review as always
Cheers Steffydog....
I have to own a Monkey bike sometime in my life . . . just because.
The fun factor just gushes out of it. You don't even have to be riding it to start laughing and smiling. What a riot.
6:06 FEEL THE POWAAAAA !
Yes an absolute hoot these, quite tempted for £2000 I must say.....
I did my cbt on one of these and after 20 mins my arse was killing me but very nippy and fun little bike.
Prefer my lexmoto tho 😁
Thanks
Lovely little bike TMF, you could even squeeze one in your garage sir.
I was thinking exactly the same...and at £1700 tempting!
Yep these midget fun-bikes are dangerously tempting! Went into a Honda dealer to have a shifty at the Africa Twin and the NCX750, walked out with a Grom tucked up under my arm ......
Hi I can’t decide on Benelli TNT or the BN…have full Licence just want to get back on 2 wheels…something light and low…any advice please thanks Alan
Does it have 12" wheels? OMG that's beautiful area he's riding in! Where exactly is that in GB?? Man that street with cars parked on both sides is so narrow!
It's near Watford.....
Not related to this review really as the bike I would like to hear your impressions of is probably ten times bigger and more expensive,. I realize you get lots of requests to review bikes but the new Goldwing looks like the USS Enterprise and although I,ll never be able to afford one I would like to hear your impressions.
Yeah I'd love a go on one....you never know! Stay tuned....
Cool. I'm of Welsh build, tall in the saddle, short to the ground but think at 5' 11" that this might be a tad small for me. Would amuse onlookers though :-)
It feels bigger than it looks...and the comedy angle is part of the fun!
I do get it and quite fancy one, especially at the price and its great design. Now, where have I heard that saying 'It feels bigger than it looks' before? :-)
I would love to hear your thoughts on the new Benelli Leoncino 500. I have only read good things about it but from unknown quantity vloggers.
Yes, I must see if I can have a go on one....
@thf - what’s your thoughts on this for a motorhome for me and the Mrs ?
Hi sir, i really want to buy a new TNT135, but i am discouraged with some owners reviews, facing problems with their TNT: fuel pump issue, valve adjustment, bolts are loose for cables, brake levers and gear shift lever. However, have you ever faced those above issues with your TNT125, please? Waiting for your helpful response, thanks.
What a fun bike, fantastic!
Sure is.....
My second bike is a Grom and as much as I love it I think the novelty is starting to wear off, nearly had it a year now and the insurance is more expensive than my GRS600 so its looking more like an expensive toy, great bike all the same. As always a great review by TMF!!
Yes insurance is just silly on 125's these days
Peakwanderer yes it feels like a false economy when they are so expensive to insure, full licence, kept in a locked garage and just used for SDP it all takes the edge off the fun factor
Indeed, I have an ST50 with mods that is silly expensive to insure so thought about a 125, cheapest quote was £225 with a lapsed NCB, whereas a new SV650 was just £110.
Crikey - how much is the insurance then if you don't mind me asking? I wonder if it's because they're easy to pick up and run off with....
TheMissendenFlyer insurance on my GSR600 is £80 versus £130 for the MSX125, both kept in a locked garage with 3 certified security products on both policies. The only difference is the GSR is insured for commuting and business miles and also more miles each year so can imagine MSX125 would go up if equally matched. I can only imagine it is a theft problem with these bikes that’s the cause of the increase as the GSR600 is worth nearly £1500 more as well, ah the black hole of insurance conundrums 😂
Makes sense to reduce the weight of 125cc bikes as they are restricted by law. I wonder how much the insurance is for a 17-year-old starting out on one of these, or similar.
About £300 pa
...what a fun way to start your bike riding "career" though eh?
More like well over a grand, My mutt which is kept in a locked garage, and with a one year ncb was £800 which was half of pretty much all other 125's
That's more like the figure I expected. My nephew bought a Nissan Micra when he was twenty for £1000. They wanted £1850 to insure him.
My Grom cost £700 per year. I'm 17 and this is my first year riding, hopefully it will drop next year
great little bike I would like you to test ride the benelli trk 500 looks like a little bmw gs
Mmm, the MCN review wasn't great of it though I seem to recall!
Hey, how much is that aftermarket exhaust costing? And is it full exhaust (so without cat)? And why did you buy it if it just the same as original :p
It looks like a mini fz09
Is this bike good for people having height above 5'11 ?
Might be a bit of a squeeze Surav.....
Hi it's Alain from Mauritius and was wondering if you are planning to do the benelli tnt 25 review anytime soon?? Cheers mate
No dates yet but there is talk! Stay tuned!
I'm staying tuned just love ur videos 😁
Is this bike accelerating faster than other chineese bikes 125? What is fuel comsumption of the bike?
Please review Benelli 600 GT / BJ 600 GS .
Too Much Fun - TMF ! ;-)
Is that even possible?
TheMissendenFlyer Just a play on words on the TMF logo, thought of it when examining your merch and thought it was also fitting for this review, did indeed seem like a fun bike to ride.
😊 hope you make a test of the benelli trk 251 in 2018
The small adventures on the crf 250 l in Scotland is great , small adventure bike’s are orsam
What are the chances of you getting your hands on a Kawasaki z900rs
Very high indeed - just not yet...stay tuned!
FZ09 even!!
I hope there is a TRK 502 review soon
Nothing planned but stay tuned - you never know!
@TheMissendenFlyer Could you please review the Benelli Leoncino 500?
If I get the chance to ride on....yes!
Just found your vid and I’m a total newbie to bikes need something for a a to b go to work bike don’t have much cash 2020 changed things
And I know there is a 2020 model I hope you do a vid like this reviewing that bike but would you recommend this for a first bike
Yes perfect first bike....
TheMissendenFlyer thanks this be my first bike and wanted something that is ok great vid