@@vquinnv8745 you are prob right. I didnt have any info, but lately they love to replace characters with black characters and black shows movies etc... and thats why i tought they are going to make black sons of anarchy. But you are prob right i hope they make the first 9
@Riffman08-dz6pv I didn't say I thought he couldn't or wouldn't do it. I was saying the grim bastards would be a boring ass series. That energy lucky had "no one tells us what to do" in mayans they never had that energy with the sons. What would it be a story of how they became ass kissers?
@@jaydonthomas427 I know exactly what you were saying theirs absolutely no misunderstanding there I was replying Asking if you underestimate the writing ability of Kurt Sutter being that he's the creator of this whole universe.
There’s no way that the Bastards would believe EZ over TO. Jax changed the unwritten bylaw of not allowing blacks in the club, that’s something that EZ don’t know or he doesn’t care. This war is not going go in his favor he has no idea how bad he’s screwed.
Thankyou it’s like Elgin has forgotten about TO, or just doesn’t care that TO got patched into Samcro lol maybe he didn’t watch every episode of soa 🤦🏽♀️
@cherylturner2702 absolutely. The continuity and storytelling went to shit after Kurt was fired. I still love this show but a lot of it just seems forced
@@RandomHero_85 yes you are right it’s all over the place, just like this season they decide ohh he lets to kill happy. Like happy was a killer and smart he also knew this day might come but to leave it this long after season 2, and he wouldn’t be in Mayan territory in the middle of a war and he would have heard them pull up and their conversation, he’s in the middle of nowhere, plus the dogs would of gone off like come on it’s just lazy writing too me just killing everyone because the show is ending and a big F.U to soa… he should of been consulting with kurt or used the soa writers they might of got season 6 lol and then they could wrap up all these different and side stories going on
@@Angel_AZ definitely it’s like lazy and can’t be bothered writing lol and I’m sure the grim bastards would have cctv so they would surely see the Mayans van number plate 🤦🏽♀️.. but I forgot they don’t get caught doing anything like the club house shoot out no police was called,then the hospital shoot out with no face coverings, and I then kidnapping a nurse who never returned, and all the other murders and shootings they’ve done where you can see their faces.. at least in soa they covered their faces but every time they did something they had the police or cia on their asses and they all done jail time a few times at least like Elgin needs to at least make it abit more realistic should have kept consulting with kurt I like this show but it’s been a let down recently and there viewing numbers ain’t as high as soa was either
@@KUFDENTERTAINMENTTyler supposedly took over marks position. So I'd say they're supposed to be on top now. Tyler just basically put the niners in a different level after marks and pope died
Don’t understand how this ends in two episodes it could have been way better but damn, least make the last two episodes 2 hours or something, they could be playing EZ though bastards may know since Quinn told Alvarez to Check his own backyard
When Alvarez spoke with Quinn that's when he knew the dreams he and Jax had are impossible to have, there's ALWAYS some ambitious young prick that thinks he's got it all figured out and wants the whole world and will destroy everything in the process to get it. Naw Alvarez is done, he's officially given up on his MC
This ain’t no SOA screw jay teller this is Mayans and is it’s own show! Mayans doesn’t revolve on SOA jax teller. Like Gilly said “who gives a f about jax teller”
Here comes all the people talking about how the bastards would never side with the Mayans over sons but the bastards have history with BOTH clubs and are the most neutral club what Mayans did was put everybody against the sons Black Brown and White also I think people forget how much time has passed since sons till now those relationships change overtime just like all things
@@ares480 yes and your comment doesn’t hold weight lol bastards were already doing their own thing in season 3 it wasn’t until last season they started calling them a support club which again makes no sense because the bastards are black
The writing in this has been terrible, no way they end this with the Mayans on top. GB have to be double crossing the Mayans, it should end with all of SP being wiped out by everyone
@@JoeSmith-dl9ok yeah most likely and probably Hank will get taken out too, and I dont know why they brought back Taza this late. He shouldve been back damn near the start of the season. Now the resolution will be either dumb or not even answered
The whole show has been about race. The first season, maybe 2, fine. But trying to paint these guys as anything other than what they are-scumbags, because they’re Mexican, is fucking stupid
That’s how prison works you nerd lmaooo Mayans controlling the prisons gives their alliance with the blacks and the whites strength sons are also racist Isaac literally has an SS bolt on his neck lmaoo
It wouldn’t be the first time the Mayans worked with Nazis. Remember in SOA season 1 Alvarez and the Oakland Charter worked with the Nords a white supremacist gang and in Season 2 they aligned themselves with L.O.A.N. (League Of American Nationalist) who where in associated with the Aryan Brotherhood
If the bastards are 100 percent against samcro this show would have died its final death. FFS T.O. is a patched member of samcro and probably throws a lot of business to his OG crew
Or probably doesn't. Since TO is a SAMCRO and not Grimm Bastards. Also, SAMCRO is Northern Cali. Grimm Bastards from northern California have different politics than Grimm Bastards southern California
Everybody in these comment sections always wants a spin off of every goddamn thing. Live and let die. If you keep on spewing out a spin off after spin off it will become just a big bucket of diluted crap. And the main shows will lose what makes them special.
@@teranmm at least they have loyalty and actual brotherhood. Mayans only give a shit about themselves. EZ talks about brotherhood but he's full of shit and a terrible leader.
Episode 8 was the slow dum ending. Hopes death was so dum it had no meaning and had no real direction. Horrible ending to a could have been amazing show (mayans mc)
@chadsurrell4468 yeah it is There's barely any action and unnecessary storylines. This doesn't even feel like the last season and there's 2 episodes left. Half of this shit doesn't make sense now. This show was good at first. The mayans don't even have eachothers backs most of the time. SOA is brotherhood mayans is not. The president is a rat and got a member killed behind everyone's backs.
Yeah, no way is it this easy. The Sons covered the Grim Bastards, from the Mayans, of all people, back in the original series. I don't imagine that they'd see dead Mayans on their turf as an implicit threat, or would ally with them because of it.
the scene between EZ and Lucky is so cringe and shows such amateur writing and execution. EZ really has nothing to say? It is scenes like this that overtakes episodes during this season that has resulted in such a disappointing season.
Wished the Grim Basterds had their own show
that s prob what they will do next
@@happypill6195I believe the first 9 is next. Sutter had 4 shows planned, SoA, Mayans, first 9 and then jax kids becoming son’s
@@vquinnv8745 you are prob right. I didnt have any info, but lately they love to replace characters with black characters and black shows movies etc... and thats why i tought they are going to make black sons of anarchy. But you are prob right i hope they make the first 9
@@happypill6195 the end of this universe is supposed to be about Abel joining the sons. Hopefully they still go that route
that show would be ass
Brown and black united to defeat the sons. This fucking war broke the peace which Alvarez promised to protect for Jax.
i blame EZ......or lazy writing
“You just shit on 2 decades of brotherhood” - Bobby
@@gamedude1838 😂
@@whipflair3710 "You may be right, but you didn't SEE the pleasure in that ANIMAL'S FACE whe he caved in Opie's skull... WE DID!"
I pray that the next spinoff by Kurt Sutter is Grim Bastards MC.
If they want to The Grim bastards would be another good spin off they have ties with both shows . I think it could be exciting to tell that story.
hell naw
@@jaydonthomas427you understimate Kurt Sutters writing abilities?? ,I can totally see a new world of Biker MC being created by this MC
@Riffman08-dz6pv I didn't say I thought he couldn't or wouldn't do it. I was saying the grim bastards would be a boring ass series. That energy lucky had "no one tells us what to do" in mayans they never had that energy with the sons. What would it be a story of how they became ass kissers?
@@jaydonthomas427 I know exactly what you were saying theirs absolutely no misunderstanding there I was replying Asking if you underestimate the writing ability of Kurt Sutter being that he's the creator of this whole universe.
There’s no way that the Bastards would believe EZ over TO. Jax changed the unwritten bylaw of not allowing blacks in the club, that’s something that EZ don’t know or he doesn’t care. This war is not going go in his favor he has no idea how bad he’s screwed.
Thankyou it’s like Elgin has forgotten about TO, or just doesn’t care that TO got patched into Samcro lol maybe he didn’t watch every episode of soa 🤦🏽♀️
@cherylturner2702 absolutely. The continuity and storytelling went to shit after Kurt was fired. I still love this show but a lot of it just seems forced
T.O doesn’t represent all of GBMC nor does he rep GBMC anymore he’s been a Patched son for almost 10 years lmao
@@RandomHero_85 yes you are right it’s all over the place, just like this season they decide ohh he lets to kill happy. Like happy was a killer and smart he also knew this day might come but to leave it this long after season 2, and he wouldn’t be in Mayan territory in the middle of a war and he would have heard them pull up and their conversation, he’s in the middle of nowhere, plus the dogs would of gone off like come on it’s just lazy writing too me just killing everyone because the show is ending and a big F.U to soa… he should of been consulting with kurt or used the soa writers they might of got season 6 lol and then they could wrap up all these different and side stories going on
@@Angel_AZ definitely it’s like lazy and can’t be bothered writing lol and I’m sure the grim bastards would have cctv so they would surely see the Mayans van number plate 🤦🏽♀️.. but I forgot they don’t get caught doing anything like the club house shoot out no police was called,then the hospital shoot out with no face coverings, and I then kidnapping a nurse who never returned, and all the other murders and shootings they’ve done where you can see their faces.. at least in soa they covered their faces but every time they did something they had the police or cia on their asses and they all done jail time a few times at least like Elgin needs to at least make it abit more realistic should have kept consulting with kurt I like this show but it’s been a let down recently and there viewing numbers ain’t as high as soa was either
This shit doesn't feel like its coming to series finale in 2 episodes, It feels like it needs another season or 2
facts
It got canceled
it def needed another season
Alvarez is so cool, man!
Right he’s level headed but knows what’s up he was the former Mayans president before EZ booted him
Surprised there hasn't been any reference to the Chinese, the 9'ers street gang or the Rogue Irish arms dealer like at all in this show.
Along with the Calaveras MC and the Bizlat
Different city's, Different gangs
Calaveras are a bullshit mc lol
Lins triad got wiped out
And niners well they aren't on a big level just yet...
@@KUFDENTERTAINMENTTyler supposedly took over marks position. So I'd say they're supposed to be on top now. Tyler just basically put the niners in a different level after marks and pope died
I think the closest they came to the Chinese were that gun trade EZ negotiated with the Chinese guy
Hoping for a grim bastards spin off!!
Can't wait to see what they bring to the table in episode 10. Going to be a great war
About that
It was 💩💩💩
It was a great end to the war for me , they aligned iron war and the grim basterds into the war
It was cool to see cuz after 5 episodes of zero war, I was hyped we got to at least see SOMETHING in the end
Don’t understand how this ends in two episodes it could have been way better but damn, least make the last two episodes 2 hours or something, they could be playing EZ though bastards may know since Quinn told Alvarez to Check his own backyard
I hope this is true …. GB will backstab EZ
@keno2285 yep… just a pussy bar fight
Alverez needs to fix this war. His promise to Jax Teller is destroyed and not what he wanted.
He burned the patches off his kutte. Just like jax did at the beginning of the last episode of season 7 when he was burning documents
When Alvarez spoke with Quinn that's when he knew the dreams he and Jax had are impossible to have, there's ALWAYS some ambitious young prick that thinks he's got it all figured out and wants the whole world and will destroy everything in the process to get it. Naw Alvarez is done, he's officially given up on his MC
Shut up, Jax Teller is dead.
@@kendallhurley8596I was gonna say, Jax's dream is and has been completely fucked inside out🤣
This ain’t no SOA screw jay teller this is Mayans and is it’s own show! Mayans doesn’t revolve on SOA jax teller. Like Gilly said “who gives a f about jax teller”
I honestly thought all the Grim Bastards would’ve been patched over to the SOA like T.O.
they might as well be this is obvy a set up
🤝🏾Black and Brown Unite🤝🏾 0:41
*EZ must have got the sense of smell knocked out of him by that big reaper to not smell the set up in this. a blind man could see it.*
Oh no, it definitely wasn’t a set up. The Grim Bastards came really came through for the Mayans.
@@sonicdash761 they did nothing bro lol i said that because the bastard OG TO patched into the sons
@@jaydonthomas427 They did do something, they help wipe out SAMDINO.
Your just a Grim Bastards hater lol
EZ built a house of lies, he'll go down but because he tried to build something wrong not because he tried to make things right like Jax.
Fuck Jax Jax destroyed everything off a lie 💀
Nothing you do it’s right in the outlaw world.
Have you not seen the sons
Hoping for a grim bastards spinoff
Let's not forget about the one niners
@@turboman3570 I forgot about them if they do a grim bastards spinoff and grim bastards run business with the one niners
It may be a set-up, maybe not. It won’t matter. Santo Padre is cursed. The only way the Mayans survive is w/out them
I agree. Mayans will survive, but Santo Padre is done.
pls just give us an first 9 soa show pls up until johns death, we already know how it would end but it would be gold
Man the grim bastards need their own show so we can see all the different/familiar aspects of each M.C
If that's the case then the calaveras should get there own show, I wish they showed what happend to CV after season 3 of SOA
The Grim Bastards reminds me of this club called 1DOWN MC in Los Angeles lol
I'm pretty sure that's who they're based on
I thought the grim bastards got patched over to the Sons of Anarchy
No only TO patched over
All over the place writing 😂😂 it’s laughable now
Grim Bastards got played like a piano
Here comes all the people talking about how the bastards would never side with the Mayans over sons but the bastards have history with BOTH clubs and are the most neutral club what Mayans did was put everybody against the sons Black Brown and White also I think people forget how much time has passed since sons till now those relationships change overtime just like all things
They're literally a Sons support club....
@@ares480 they’re literally not 💀 SOA tried to make them seem like a support club but in the MC world that wouldn’t work due to the racial politics
@@riqodinero did you watch the show? 🥴
@@ares480 yes and your comment doesn’t hold weight lol bastards were already doing their own thing in season 3 it wasn’t until last season they started calling them a support club which again makes no sense because the bastards are black
Alavrez is back
Weird that they gave their kuttes to Ez and not back to the Oakland charter. lmao like EZ was ever gonna do anything ceremonial with them.
i think its only right to make a grim bastards spinoff
Weren't the Grim Bastards down with SOA? TO was even patched into SAMCRO. What happened?
Nothing made sense in later seasons of Mayans.
I think ez going get kill or get his brother kill
Ez is poison
So As taza who started all of this
Taza really plunged everyone into war, killed Riz and dipped 😅
@@spoonsVSforks exactly and bishop knew it and didn't say shit so they're all toxic
@ I think Riz saving Bishop on that SoA hit is what has saved Taza tbh
@@spoonsVSforks that was not SOA that was Paolo's club
Sante Padre mayans are all dead Potter had his team take everyone of rhem out smh
Had to make sure the whitey was the villain 😂😂
EZ and Alavarez gonna kill each other.
Alverez will be the one to kill EZ
You don't know what's going to happen, I advice we wait next week to see the end.
If this storyline was continued, eventually both Mayans and Grim who gives a fuck would've been wiped off the map
The writing in this has been terrible, no way they end this with the Mayans on top. GB have to be double crossing the Mayans, it should end with all of SP being wiped out by everyone
It will. Maybe not all of Santo Padre, but definitely EZ and Bishop
@@JoeSmith-dl9ok yeah most likely and probably Hank will get taken out too, and I dont know why they brought back Taza this late. He shouldve been back damn near the start of the season. Now the resolution will be either dumb or not even answered
I thought the Grim Bastards got patched over to SOA?....
Kurt Sutter is writing a script now
Grim Bastards would be a dark show lol
Can’t the Sons recruit the One Niners?
Possibly
As well as the Byz Lats
I feel like Mayans going get swole boys too since now grims bastard with Mayans are stronger finish sons an Alvarez
This is bullshit by Elgin James making it on race when Mayans alliance with the Nazis in this season over fentanyl
The whole show has been about race. The first season, maybe 2, fine. But trying to paint these guys as anything other than what they are-scumbags, because they’re Mexican, is fucking stupid
That’s how prison works you nerd lmaooo Mayans controlling the prisons gives their alliance with the blacks and the whites strength sons are also racist Isaac literally has an SS bolt on his neck lmaoo
Your the one making that narrative. Everyone just watches it as entertainment.
It wouldn’t be the first time the Mayans worked with Nazis. Remember in SOA season 1 Alvarez and the Oakland Charter worked with the Nords a white supremacist gang and in Season 2 they aligned themselves with L.O.A.N. (League Of American Nationalist) who where in associated with the Aryan Brotherhood
Hell, the Mayans dealt with Nazis back in the SOA series, as did the Sons themselves, for a time.
If the bastards are 100 percent against samcro this show would have died its final death. FFS T.O. is a patched member of samcro and probably throws a lot of business to his OG crew
Or most bastards could look at TO as weak for leaving them to join up with the white boys
Or probably doesn't. Since TO is a SAMCRO and not Grimm Bastards. Also, SAMCRO is Northern Cali. Grimm Bastards from northern California have different politics than Grimm Bastards southern California
Now i wonder if T.O still with smacro
They should have done a GB show, not Mayan
Everybody in these comment sections always wants a spin off of every goddamn thing. Live and let die. If you keep on spewing out a spin off after spin off it will become just a big bucket of diluted crap. And the main shows will lose what makes them special.
I feel like if Kurt was still writing the show it would’ve been better and EZ would’ve had a better date then that sad excuse for a finale
No they wont. The next ones Swole Boys.
Oh I can feel the woke agenda in this episode already!
Hope SoA is taken out completely
It probably won’t happen but, I’m hopeful as well.
Hell no. SOA all the way.
That isn’t gonna happen 😂
@@AllOfTheHallows bunch of chumps compared to the Mayans. Ez should take them all out.
@@teranmm at least they have loyalty and actual brotherhood. Mayans only give a shit about themselves. EZ talks about brotherhood but he's full of shit and a terrible leader.
Episode 8 was the slow dum ending. Hopes death was so dum it had no meaning and had no real direction. Horrible ending to a could have been amazing show (mayans mc)
😂😂😂 exactly glad this mess is almost over
This alliance did not make sense to me.
The tralier for this season gave me hope. Its boring. Im just gonna see how it ends at this point. Nothing is making sense.
Boring ?? Lol
@chadsurrell4468 yeah it is
There's barely any action and unnecessary storylines.
This doesn't even feel like the last season and there's 2 episodes left. Half of this shit doesn't make sense now. This show was good at first. The mayans don't even have eachothers backs most of the time. SOA is brotherhood mayans is not. The president is a rat and got a member killed behind everyone's backs.
@@chadsurrell4468 Fuck yeah it's boring. We saw a bigger fight scene in the civil war than we have in this one.
@@kyleroberts3814 he knows we're right
That's why he didn't answer
ok i dont get this scene with the bastards
Yeah, no way is it this easy.
The Sons covered the Grim Bastards, from the Mayans, of all people, back in the original series. I don't imagine that they'd see dead Mayans on their turf as an implicit threat, or would ally with them because of it.
Thought TO was part of samcro??
That’s not t.o. That’s lucky. And it’s not the bastards from Lodi. It’s southern cali. South gate
the scene between EZ and Lucky is so cringe and shows such amateur writing and execution. EZ really has nothing to say? It is scenes like this that overtakes episodes during this season that has resulted in such a disappointing season.
It’s a shame how pointless this show has become this szn… horrible writing, pointless add ons, should’ve called it at the end of szn 4
Exactly could have went out with a bang ‼️ The whole season is rushed and all over the place 😂😂😂
feel the same, feel the same
how is there so many motorcycle groups? love the vests tho, theyre so cute its like a school uniform
I thought the grim bastards disbanded. Isn't that why their last pres joined soa?
Correct
@@StaceyLamontSydnorcharters can open and close, maybe TO’s GB was just a charter and not the club as a whole