@@jonathangacha6525 Not a lightner even if we haven't seen his equivalent object in the lightworld yet, at least It's not a lightner due to his portrait and reliance on dark fountains
I NEED A JEVIL PLUSHY, I NEED A JEVIL PLUSHY, AND ONE OF SEAM, SEAM'S A PLUSHY IN-GAME TOO, C'MON TOBY/FANGAMER DOESN'T THIS ENHANCE THE GAME EXPERIENCE? *Shaking toby like noelle does to berdly*
He stated he didn't make merch of standalone lightners because it would be a disservice for what they stand for, what they "represent". What they mean in the story would be desecrated by it. Note how this also applied to truechara in the original game. They are the most real of all the characters and deserve respect, he said. You can look up the emails on the subject. I think there were reddit posts accessible from Google. I would fetch them for you but YT doesn't like links.
@@Videospiel-Man5730 mainchara does hav merch of them. You can easily find it at the Fangamer store, like the series 1 complete set. truechara has nothing at all. I don't think they even appear on group pictures, unlike the lightners. They meant truechara exclusively.
@@gabrote42 was just a bit confused by your wording because you use codenames i mean i get not using frisk as that only applys when they are uncorrupted aka paci but their official name is the human!
@@Videospiel-Man5730 Good point! Sorry, that habit of mine developed back in 2016 where I was real shouted at for using proper names that back then were of dubious applicability. When I started using their sprite's filenames (spr_mainchara for The Human/"Frisk" and spr_truechara for The Fallen/"Chara"/The First Human/Your name/Your cat's name) people stopped complaining, so I mostly do it out of habit. I will probably start using "The Human" more now that I saw your comment and the merch name. Judge is still out on "Chara" tho, but I think it's pretty safe given that's the default and true name. Thanks for the convo.
Yeah I heard the same. So extrapolating from that what we can: Since Chara is off limits for the most part it can be presumed this is likely because Chara somewhat represents the completion of the Genocide/No Mercy route due to their strong association with its ending, (though I suppose one could argue that Flowey is off limits for the same reason). Therby I would guess that each of the Lightners (at least Kris, Susie, Noelle, and Berdly), could eventually become synonymous with other ideas that are 'messy' in some way. Something like them coming to represent or embody certain topics like depression, mental illness, neglect, abuse victim, etc. Things that we don't see the full picture of, and Toby Fox doesn't want to pull the rug out from under the fanbase by making a bunch of merchandise that people will later feel different about when they have the full picture. Although, on the opposite end of the spectrum, we could be reading waaaaay too deeply into this. It could also be something like there'll be some major changes with the lightner characters by the end of the game, and he doesn't want to release merch of them until after that? The message on his tumblr about it sounds pretty definite on the matter, but I guuuuuueeesss it could be him referring to the characters as they are now, perhaps? IDK, I'm grasping at straws, haha.
Love how accurate the plushes coming in is, only for Toby to immediately decimate them because apparently there's a reason they don't have much merch. Also those are some really well made sprites!
I've heard about Toby's reason why he doesn't want to give out Lightner plushies, because they would represent living beings, unlike the darkners who (so far at least) instead represents non-living things. This is an interesting and clever meta idea that totaly belongs to this game. I'm just gonna kindly ignore it. Give us Ligthner plushies!
Ralsei : A GODDAMNIT SO MUCH- but also I LOVE IT Spamton : I ALREADY SOLD ALL MY [SILLY STRINGS] TO [VIEWERS] FOR ONLY [4.99] Lancer : ok im glad this happened Queen : atleast i got a shirt. Nubert : Nubert thanks toby. RK : AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Jevil : I NEED NEED TO BE FREE FREE, King : nvm im not famous the lightners : *get pins*
Apparently, Toby Fox specifically said not to make merch for the Lightners... He hasn't really elaborated why.
He said do not make figures or plushies for the said Lightner characters because they are "real" beings
@@Space_geep curious logic there...
Wait, Isn't ralsei a lightner?
@@jonathangacha6525 He's assumed to be a Darkner, but it's not confirmed either way.
@@jonathangacha6525 Not a lightner even if we haven't seen his equivalent object in the lightworld yet, at least It's not a lightner due to his portrait and reliance on dark fountains
I love how Suzie just throws the plush head at birdly
I think these are pins
“GODDAMMIT BERDLY THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!”
*throw*
“A-“
i need a kris plushie in my life to constantly judge my poor choices
Me too
I NEED A JEVIL PLUSHY, I NEED A JEVIL PLUSHY, AND ONE OF SEAM, SEAM'S A PLUSHY IN-GAME TOO, C'MON TOBY/FANGAMER DOESN'T THIS ENHANCE THE GAME EXPERIENCE? *Shaking toby like noelle does to berdly*
YES YES YES I AGREE WE NEED SEAM AND JEVIL PLUSHIES WE NEED THEM YES
Also a roulxes kard plushy with an it’s pronounced rules sound box
Why ARENT they plushies yet!? It’s been 4 years!
I have to tell you, there's a jevil plushie now
@@romualdoxdstaiti7387 life is good
Don't worry, we got a Berdly golden statue auctioned for over $4,000 for charity.
this was EIGHT months ago??
Now 11
He stated he didn't make merch of standalone lightners because it would be a disservice for what they stand for, what they "represent". What they mean in the story would be desecrated by it. Note how this also applied to truechara in the original game. They are the most real of all the characters and deserve respect, he said. You can look up the emails on the subject. I think there were reddit posts accessible from Google. I would fetch them for you but YT doesn't like links.
Is that the reason why frisk doesnt have a plush?! Or was he refering only too chara?
@@Videospiel-Man5730 mainchara does hav merch of them. You can easily find it at the Fangamer store, like the series 1 complete set. truechara has nothing at all. I don't think they even appear on group pictures, unlike the lightners. They meant truechara exclusively.
@@gabrote42 was just a bit confused by your wording because you use codenames i mean i get not using frisk as that only applys when they are uncorrupted aka paci but their official name is the human!
@@Videospiel-Man5730 Good point! Sorry, that habit of mine developed back in 2016 where I was real shouted at for using proper names that back then were of dubious applicability. When I started using their sprite's filenames (spr_mainchara for The Human/"Frisk" and spr_truechara for The Fallen/"Chara"/The First Human/Your name/Your cat's name) people stopped complaining, so I mostly do it out of habit. I will probably start using "The Human" more now that I saw your comment and the merch name. Judge is still out on "Chara" tho, but I think it's pretty safe given that's the default and true name. Thanks for the convo.
Yeah I heard the same. So extrapolating from that what we can:
Since Chara is off limits for the most part it can be presumed this is likely because Chara somewhat represents the completion of the Genocide/No Mercy route due to their strong association with its ending, (though I suppose one could argue that Flowey is off limits for the same reason).
Therby I would guess that each of the Lightners (at least Kris, Susie, Noelle, and Berdly), could eventually become synonymous with other ideas that are 'messy' in some way. Something like them coming to represent or embody certain topics like depression, mental illness, neglect, abuse victim, etc. Things that we don't see the full picture of, and Toby Fox doesn't want to pull the rug out from under the fanbase by making a bunch of merchandise that people will later feel different about when they have the full picture.
Although, on the opposite end of the spectrum, we could be reading waaaaay too deeply into this. It could also be something like there'll be some major changes with the lightner characters by the end of the game, and he doesn't want to release merch of them until after that? The message on his tumblr about it sounds pretty definite on the matter, but I guuuuuueeesss it could be him referring to the characters as they are now, perhaps? IDK, I'm grasping at straws, haha.
truth right here... it sucks but if we get darkner plushies of other characters that'll be nice
BERDLY HAS [[Exploded]]!
It's all true, all of it!
i need the whole fun gang toby please release some plushies plsplsplsplsplsplspl,splspslpsl
i want a plushie susie to hug
Rouxls: but i am smartith! Am i notith?
Berdly is funking dead
Lancer Is My Favorite.
Nice
This is the society we live in 😔😔😔
WOWIE! I AM DROWNING IN [MARKETABLE PLUSHIES FOR 39.99]
All I want is a kris plush
I whould sell my [Heart SHapE ObJect]
For one :(
I NEED KRIS PLUSH
I NEED MORE ROUXLS MERCH FR
Addison's prob not even gonna be KNOWN of there fir somereason
There isn’t really a reason for them to make Addison merch, they aren’t even side characters and we don’t even know their names besides Spamton
@@birb70 i still want em ;-;
¡Omg! ¡They killed Kenny!
Bootlegs:hello
Ralsei: 🎉
Susie at the end tho- 😂😂😂
Actually what’s on her
Okay lightners and chara dont get merch...
But wheres the frisk plushie?
Didn't jevil get a plushie?
Yeah but the video was made before he got one
I NEED JEVIL KING AND SWEET CAPN CAKES PLUSHIES RIGHT NOW
Same
I have news: jevil now have a [marketable plushie] and got sold out in one day
@@jet-set-bomb-rushnow they at least have T-shits
THE JEVIL PLUSHIES ARE BACK
I got an jevil and spamton for Christmas
Love how accurate the plushes coming in is, only for Toby to immediately decimate them because apparently there's a reason they don't have much merch.
Also those are some really well made sprites!
Loving how susie got so livid she threw the pin at berdly with so much force it literally made him explode
So true, man, I just want me a mini Rouxls :(
I NEED JEVIL KING AND SWEET CAPN CAKES PLUSHIES RIGHT NOW
@@GigachadHGDYDBHDB THOSE TOO PLEASE TOBADIUS FOXTROT PLEASE
@@GigachadHGDYDBHDB yes
@@GigachadHGDYDBHDB same
MW 2
I want a berdly plush...
to kich him
Here’s a better idea
Refrigerator
Same
I've heard about Toby's reason why he doesn't want to give out Lightner plushies, because they would represent living beings, unlike the darkners who (so far at least) instead represents non-living things.
This is an interesting and clever meta idea that totaly belongs to this game.
I'm just gonna kindly ignore it. Give us Ligthner plushies!
GIVE US ALL THE PLUSIES OF KRIS, SUSIE, NOELLE, BERDLY, AMD ROXOULS. NOW TOBY DAMNIT
I want a Berdly so i can freeze him in my fridge :)
I get what toby means but i mean if your not gonna allow plushies therell be bad bootlegs!
kris wearing a sweater is the culmination of all human existence, just the way it should be
Spamton and raselis plushies are stacked
Outdated because jev plush exists now
Susie: dammit, f*ck you, Burghley!
Berdly: wh- *scientific metal rod.mp3*
Rip B... B... Burghley...?
true
Berdly just got dunked on
yassifacation
Ralsei : A GODDAMNIT SO MUCH- but also I LOVE IT
Spamton : I ALREADY SOLD ALL MY [SILLY STRINGS] TO [VIEWERS] FOR ONLY [4.99]
Lancer : ok im glad this happened
Queen : atleast i got a shirt.
Nubert : Nubert thanks toby.
RK : AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Jevil : I NEED NEED TO BE FREE FREE,
King : nvm im not famous
the lightners : *get pins*