@@sliderkitz . I'm glad it does for youI shot almost every Glock including that one and they all feel horrible in my hand I wish they felt good in my hands their performance is awesome
Never had a Taurus, do own the 365 and others. Went with 4 others and tested the CX4 and became a instant fanboy. Ordered one that night. Taurus obvious came out to fight hard in this Micro9 market and it shows. They seem to have taken the best of many guns and put into this lovely firearm. And it shoots great and mine is totally reliable with just about every kind of ammo I could find. Love the way they did the Off hand grip. Love the fact that they sent two back straps and two 11 rd magazines. And this gun is solid quality. A strong steel chassis, and a much improvement over the grips of others. IMO and others at the range, we alll agreed this is top dog in the Micro 9mm world.
I think it's great to see how the various brands are choosing to fill this new segment of the firearm space. I believe they're all offering excellent options. Even those that I feel are at the bottom of the pack seem to be actually good pistols that I wouldn't have any issue with carrying. It is also nice to see Taurus actively improving recently. Without having shot one and only having watched UA-cam reviews of the GX4, it seems like a very solid option, hitting above its price point and _not_ bringing up the rear of the pack.
I wouldn't give ONE GX4 for TWO p365's. FOR REAL.... at least the GX4 hasn't BROKE STRIKERS, or had STRIKER DRAG on the BULLET TAURUS IS ON THEIR WAY TO THE TOP
As soon as Taurus releases the TORO version of the GX4, I'm on it like white on rice! I did the TORO conversion with my G3c and am very happy with the result (went with the CTS 1550 red dot).
Love my GX4 great gun Have about 200 rounds thru it with no hiccups of any kind . I looked at a few ,the Roger max 9 just didn't feel right and didn't like the trigger on the ruger.the Springfield didn't feel great in the hand but I liked the sights. Buddy of mine has one and it shoots ok But that GX4 is feels good I can hit with it very good for a micro 7 yards . I also have a Gluck 42 that a carry in the summer because of its size ..easy to conceal. I compared them very little difference in size The Glock is a hair thinner but the GX4 11+1 9mm easy to conceal is a real winner here, my personal opinion you don't need optics on a micro no point in it.. Taurus does have a ameraglow big dot / night sight for the GX4 on the taurus store sight that I might get for my old eyes. But bottom line is ..small compact high capacity and shoots good and no malfunctions . Taurus hit it on the nose with this model.. can't complain ..good gun ,buy one when you can find them, they are selling like hot cakes. And good reason...
Man, I had 200 rounds through mine and no hiccups. I carried it for 6 months after that, and then I went shooting the other day. I had some VERY dangerous malfunctions with it just on the second mag I put through it that day. At 200 rounds I was impressed. At 212 rounds, I decided to never carry the gun again. Delayed striker, no trigger break, failure to fire at all…all on the 2nd magazine that day. I hope yours is good, but I’ll never trust it again.
I get the trigger-finger pinch too. For a gun as small as it is through it's very manageable, just one with which I would be selective about practice ammo with.
Yeah I heard that you were having issues with some reloads. And the trigger pinch is definitely manageable, this isn't a take to the range to plink around gun anyway 🤷🏻♂️
Good to know. I've heard a couple of different stories of a couple of different issues at this point, got yours mixed up with a different one. Humble had actually told me to verify my barrel because it had some similar markings to yours. Mine is working so far, still only at about 200 rounds, haven't made it to the range again since, plunk tests showed that it should be okay.
There's a big difference between practicing and plinking around. I can put a few hundred rounds through a Shadow 2 easier and with more comfort then I can a P01, but I wouldn't carry or train for carry with the shadow 2. I can comfortably put even more rounds though a Ruger 22/45. Way more then I could the others. There are guns who's designs accommodate more comfort on the range that are generally more fun to shoot, or "plink" with. Training isn't plinking.
Belive -it-or-not, I am have the same problem with my CZ P10C!! I talked to my friend and trainer. He suggested I try to slide the pad of my trigger finger up to the curve. It causes a heaver pull but less pinch then using it at the end of the curve.
I love this pistol but the one issue I had was after about 500 rounds I brought it home and noticed the recoil rod was sticking out the front of the frame...I was able to screw it back down with my fingers but if I hadn't noticed and it came all the way off, I would assume that would cause a major malfunction. I can't wait til Lakeline LLC or some other brand comes out with an aftermarket stainless steel recoil rod and spring like they did for the G2 and G3.
I know recoil is subjective as it depends on your grip and feel of a particular firearm, but I feel the hellcat has significantly more recoil to me…? 🤷🏻♂️
If it has more recoil than the hellcat it will be a big no for most new shooters. I have definitely been impressed with a lot of the stuff Taurus has put out lately. The TX22 is probably the best affordable 22 semiautomatic around and the G3 I have has been awesome.
The GX4 has one of the lowest recoil rating. 6.68 ft lbs, vs 6.84 for hellcat and 6.99 for Sig 365. The GX4 is a Awesome gun. Now 700 rds of every kind of ammo I could find and not one hiccup.
I absolutely love mine after shooting it for about 300 rounds my finger is sore but not to the point i want to stop shooting but in a defensive situation this gun would be a primo ccw weapon. After i bought this gun I completely retired my g2c no need for it as a self defense gun and i have better for home so unless i am going full metal like a cz sp01 nothing comes cloe to this gun for what it is made for ...
I highly recommend checking out the trigger issues and sticking with a gun that you know is reliable. I put 200 rounds through mine right after I bought it and thought everything was fine. I carried it for 6 months after that. Then I shot it again the other day and had some very disturbing trigger issues on the 2nd mag I put through it that day. I sent it in to Taurus yesterday, so hopefully they’ll replace it with a new one, but I won’t be carrying that. I’ll probably just sell it for a loss and go with something that’s proven to be more reliable.
@@RunD.Ones1s The ones Ive seen have said Made in Brazil. I contacted Taurus and they confirmed what I said. Manufactured at Brazillian plant then assembled in the Bainbridge, GA facility. Its a Brazilian gun. Doesnt much matter to me. I have a whole collection of pistols, revolvers, rifles, and shotguns made around the world.
@@RunD.Ones1s That would be a NO! Made in Brazil. Don't confuse the tag on the trigger guard that says built in America for made in America big difference.
Love my g3c! I went with the Hellcat for micro carry. To many negative reviews on UA-cam!Factory recall for not being drop safe. I didn’t even look at the gx4. I chose the Hellcat over p365.
I own 4 Taurus handguns (really like them too) and 3 Sigs (really like them also). I own Rugers too so no brand bias in what I am going to say here. I have shot the Ruger Max 9, Hellcat and the GX4 at my range. I own the base model P365. All 4 are excellent firearms. For me and my medium large hands the P365 fits the best but I did spend $18 for two Pearce magazine pinky extensions. The Ruger Max 9 to me is over priced but shoots fairly well but to me is basically blah.... The Hellcat fit my hands fairly well but was really snappy. So was the GX4 with my pinky hanging off compared to the P365 using the exact same 115 grain FMJ range ammo. Fit, finish and reliability of the P365 (after Sig fixed the striker issues) is outstanding and worth every penny. I can't say the same for the Max 9 or the GX4 yet, it is still too early for reliability and finish. The Hellcat is a fine, high quality sub compact. However, the overall build quality of the P365 is really stunning and surpasses the Max 9 and GX4 and equals at least, the Hellcat. I am not saying good things about the P365 because it has been an easy journey for me. I had to learn how to shoot it like I was starting all over again. Lots of range hours before I felt comfortable with it. The GX4, throwing out the level of felt recoil and short grip was surprisingly easy to shoot although I also had plenty of trigger finger pinching............I just don't care for the Hellcat (more finger pinching)....... and the Ruger Max 9 just seems like a "me too" gun. So my P365 with factory tritium night sights, two 10 round mags, manual safety (which I wanted), included polymer Sig holster and the two mag base plate extensions cost me $515. The big retailer where I bought it sells the Max 9 and Hellcat base models for $489 and the base P365 for $499. The GX4 currently is $369. Put a quality set of tritium night sights and mags with extended baseplates on the GX4 and the price is roughly the same as the others. When the GX4 base model is sub $300 I may buy one. It would be an outstanding value at around $279. For raw ease of shooting, the G3C ($249 at the same retailer) is more comfortable to hold, easier to shoot and a better value than the GX4 where the GX4 is currently priced. Yes I know the G3C is not a sub compact but it is really close and easy to conceal, at least for me.
Say what you want but I have never had my PT111/G2C not fire even after not cleaning it for about 1000 rds. So I got the gx4 which I'm also happy with. 13+1. I hope I like my new Black Point Tactical mini wing holster.
The area inside the trigger guard is somewhat small as the trigger length is pretty short and it pinches my finger upon trigger release . I'm glad you noticed this finger pinch but you cautioned to be careful of finger placement but my average size finger fills the guard area and leaves no option of placement . I suppose since this is a defense carry gun it's not going to be shot enough to worry over , " I suppose " .
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed what Taurus did. But hold on to your wallets because they're not through. I'm sure the GX4 T.O.R.O. is coming soon.
It better be. As long as it's a solid system: i.e. has some type of interface between the optic and slide, or plate slide and optic, then it's gonna be a good combo
I love my gx4, but I won't buy the TORO. I have a P365XL Romeo Zero for that. I thought it through. I was about to buy the regular 365 when the gx4 made its entrance. No regrets.I'm patiently waiting for the P365XL aftermarket to offer some metal grip frames with a non-proprietary rail and better lights. I'm through buying red dots unless Leupold refines their micro a bit (to reduce the size of that thing hanging off the back end).
@@traumajock icarus precision p365xl pro grip is just that...full length of the XL slide with a picatinny accessory rail and made of 7075 aluminum. I have it its great you can pick then up from limitless America they also offer a version that is the same length as the normal p365 grip
I don't plan on going to WW2 combat, so why would I even buy optics. At 69 plus, my eye site is still good enough to put rounds on target for the range this gun is designed. Besides I need the extra money for my Jeeps.
The GX4 is cheaper but Taurus is gonna make a lot of that money back up with the 13R mag & the pinky extension.. it's why they're not included in the packaging
Give it a year so Taurus works the kinks out like inconsistent chamber support and some other versions like manual safety and optic ready. Its a new platform separate from the G series so it would be wise to give it some time. As it stands now it cannot unseat the other pocket micro 9s until these things are fixed or available. It is not a sub compact. Its a micro compact. Taurus will sell loads of them though because of the lower price.
$400 is drastic amount under the competition? Hellcats and P365's are $482-$499 at my local gun store... Smith Shield Plus is under $420... These prices, every day during the entire pandemic... For this gun to be a hit, it needs to be sub $300 or so... I like Taurus, but when the price is so close to what Ruger, Smith, Sig and Springfield charge, I wouldn't pick the Taurus...
Your gun store must be amazing, because around here Hellcats and P365s go for $550 and up, shields are $450 and up, typically around $475 for the base model. Pandemic or not. And we are usually some of the lowest I can find
@@workthetrigger I have several near me that never really raised their prices. I asked them why not, and they said because they still pay the same prices that they did before Covid. Other than the normal 2% or whatever annual inflation increase, the prices from the gun makers and the distributors have stayed pretty much the same during all this... so they didn't feel it was right to gouge their customers, just because they could... I picked up a new P365 a couple months ago, stainless slide and night sights, for $478... Glock 19 Gen5 for $499. Hellcat in FDE for $487... Glock 29 for $529... Plus many more, all during Covid....
I just purchased a new GX4. Immediately I had trigger reset issues, basically a dead trigger every 20 rounds or so. The customer service rep said that "it was common on the GX4".. They sent me a shipping label. Otherwise it shot very well.. Same size and weight as the Hellcat.
I’ll never own a striker gun but you actually make this one feel like it’s worth a look. Just don’t see it coming close to my SIG P938 (MCarbo springs, Tillamook steel trigger) but at double the capacity and half the price, I can see where it almost makes it worth shooting yourself in the foot for!
Got my GX4 TORO version for $295 after all said and done. I'm very happy with it. I also own the P365 and Shield plus and prefer the GX4 trigger over both of those.
Justin opinion. Channel said it was just a 365 copy but with a bad trigger. He said it was a deal breaker having the trigger that was that stiff and heavy , one trigger pull he was measuring 9 pounds. He said when shooting his reloads a spent cases got stuck in the chamber and had to dislodge it with a tool which he said was the gun not from shooting his reloads and to be aware of that .in the comment section a lot of people saying they wouldn't buy one because of the trigger and of course he wouldn't keep it
Thing about Taurus, their product varies. More then I've seen with most. The trigger is an easy thing to get use to, but you shouldn't have to. Every other aspect of that trigger is equal to or better than the competition, they just need to drop that weight by quite a bit.
Taurus says in the manual that comes with the gun, not to shoot reloads in it so with that being said, I'm not going to hold anything against the gun because Justin Opinion used it in a way it wasn't designed to be used. If Taurus didn't say that in the manual, I would hold it against the gun. Having the G2c and a Gen 5 Glock 45, I love this trigger and prefer it over both of those.
Seen that. I commented that he should send it back to Taurus, and have it fixed, as all other reviews I have watched, including Sootch00, are measuring around 5.5 pounds.
@@larrygarot8909 I know for fact the Taurus G2C can “eat” steel, but I only stick with brass. Now ammo is returning to store shelves, but it says one box per purchase. 🤬
Taurus has been doing great with its G series 9's. I own (and love) the G2C, which is my glove box gun, and pocket carry the P365. I've heard nothing but great things about the GX4, and might eventually replace my G2C with one. I wouldn't even think, however, of replacing my P365 with the GX4, although for those who don't want to incur the much higher price of the P365, the GX4 is not a bad compromise. Your mentioning of a better feel in the hand for both the Hellcat and the GX4 is quite commonly mentioned in reviews--almost always followed by "but the P365 still shoots way better". But one thing has recently elevated the P365 even higher above its competitors: the relatively new (and apparently not well known) MagGuts +2 extender kit. It adds 2 extra rounds to the OEM mags, and since it uses a flat metal spring instead of the usual coiled spring, it only adds a barely noticeable 1/8" of additional length, keeping the P365 at the top of its class capacity wise on a comparable height basis. Since my big hands means I must use the OEM 12 round extended mags to avoid a hanging pinkie, I'm now at 14+1, only 1 round less than a Glock 19, yet it fits easily and conveniently in my pocket (unless I'm sitting in my car--then it's the G2C, if needed.)
@@deadbeatbrad5484 I know--I have two. But perhaps you missed the part about the MagGuts +2 extender "only adds a barely noticeable 1/8" of additional length".
So basically if you buy any gun made in the last year or two, then you now have one of the best firearms every made.. lol.. because no one seems to miss anymore on their new releases... I sat here trying to think of a bad gun that's been released in the last 2 years and I literally can't think of one. Gun purchases have taken over my life.
Build quality and reputation is lacking for SIG. Their 365 wasn't ready and they used the public as their beta testers with a gun that wasn't reliable. Then let's not forget that their 320 wasn't drop safe and went off when dropped on the back of the slide.
Pretty pathetic little play there. All you said was true except you left out that the other compacts at twice the price don't do anything twice as good. And the fact that the only thing these things do is conceal well and go bang, with the same rounds coming out the opposite end. All the PONTIFICATING about small issues aren't that important. If you actually ever have to use any of these weapons in self defense, you will have them confiscated to never be seen again anyway.
... For it to matter that they take your gun, you have to survive the encounter. I have heard of enough issues with the Taurus trigger to keep me from trusting it. Much like p365s in the beginning. But the p365 outgrew it's issues and is now the most reliable of the bunch, and the hellcats don't seem to have many widespread issues. Point being, you're going to put price over confidence in a product. I know the sig will work. I know the Springfield will work... I don't know if the Taurus will. And that's not work a couple hundred bucks.
Comparison of the *Taurus vs the SIG* by Logic: A wash - Round count is _irreverent_ pass 6 or 7 bullets as the average shots fired in all self-defense is 2 to 4 shots (FBI data) SIG P365 is better - higher quality, known reputation of being reliable & accurate pistol. SIG P365 is worse - being higher end = higher price so poorer folks & low income individuals can not afford it. Taurus GX4 is better - low price is great for the poor so now they can defend themselves too like the general public. Also, being a copy of the Glock 43 (by ---stealing--- _borrowing_ Glock R&D) it should more reliable than most Taurus'. Taurus GX4 is worse - Taurus has a bad reputation for unreliability & very, very poor customer service. The Taurus GX4 is lower quality than the SIG (point one). The Taurus will have lower re-sell value than the SIG. The Taurus copies Glocks R&D as said so it should work. _But_ why not just get the original (G43) instead of a copy cat (point two). *NOTE:* (opinion) This emphasis on the trigger of CCW guns & non-competition handguns is ridiculous. Will the very small different in how a striker fired trigger works make a different is the high stress event of a shooting. Will it even matter for anything if you actually use the gun, practicing to *_learn_* the gun. There are no good or bad triggers in CCW or self-defense. There are trigger that need to be _learned._ SPRINGFIELD ARMORY - I will not buy from due to their anti-gun lobbying for more money. EDIT: Happy FATHER'S DAY today!
no about taurus reliability. pt111 g2 mill pro, g2c g3(c) all very reliable pistols. People forget that the p365 was junk for many for months after release. MAC had 3 bad p365's in a row. I will say that these problems have finally been worked out. Very likely the choice between most of the micro 9s should be personal preference and not brand bashing.
@@bnolsen Did you say the Pt111, G2, G3,... let's just say any Taurus was very reliable 🤔. ⏸pause for uncontrollable lol. Back to reality: Taurus and Hi-Point are the poster children of unreliability and the worst customer servicef. Are you a bot or gun dealer 🤔. They lie too much. The only Taurus that "maybe" is very reliable is the PX4 and that is only because it is a Glock 43 close copy, aka a clone like Mossberg's MC1/MC2 and other copies of the Glock out there. Interesting comment sir 👍but heavily influenced by something 🤔 that I want to know - Are you poor i.e. can not afford a Glock or HK, are you from Brazil 🇧🇷 where Taurus is made, are you a gun 🔫 dealer who promotes every gun if he can make money 💰, 😒 hmm...
I just got mine today at scheels if anyone is live in colony texas they have one in stock i believe one more left when i got there but i can't wait to shoot it lol
@@larrygarot8909 yeah it is crazy how fast this little guy goes out of the Shelf but i am glad that i made that trip yesterday to purchase it. Have you shot it yet ? Are you planning to make it as you EDC ? I have my Glock 19 as my service pistol and my EDC when i am going to the restaurant to the mall etc.. But i am looking something small to carry when it is hot season in texas probably when it get cooler i will have my glock 19 back in to it as my EDC but for now on it hard to find the holster for the taurus GX4 i know it been only a week that this firearm as came out
@Web Gem The EDC's that cost more, Well there is reason for that... Taurus may be getting better However They are still Taurus. I Will not Carry to Save Money over Longevity and proven Track Record of The Top Manufacturers in the game. Again This is My Opinion.
I tend to try not to blanket statement without testing a gun out. Thus far, my GX4 has had no issues. I know of one that has, a tight throat caused feeding issues. But sig broke strikers for a good long while, so big names are not immune to quality issues.
@@workthetrigger never shot a canik but I had bought a g3c and it wouldn't shoot more than 4 rounds without jamming. So I sold it. Then I saw something at the range I'd never seen before, a guys taurus judge broke. Like the damn cylinder wouldn't lock in. Come to find out, parts went flying off that thing. Lol. In all my years in this hobby I've even seen a non oiled dusty glock jam with steel cased bullets. But a revolver!? Lmao. The main reason ppl have revolvers is for reliability. Straight garbage
Also, I actually own some budget guns that are pretty reliable. Even a diamondback db9 that was less than 200 and has never jammed 1x! So I'm not knocking budget guns. But taurus is kaka. 💩
Tested the GX4 today at the range and it felt awesome, great option
Taurus keeps innovating, why can't Glock come up with an ergonomic grip?
Yep Glock feel awful in my hands
I'm a huge fan of the glock 48
43x feels Heaven sent
@@sliderkitz . I'm glad it does for youI shot almost every Glock including that one and they all feel horrible in my hand I wish they felt good in my hands their performance is awesome
@@D-A-1776 Aw man, well it’s all subjective brother. The Gx4 is an absolute steal so it’s not a bad choice, I think I everything out there
I'm pretty sure that's how it went because I bought the g3c and then the gx4 came out so I had to buy it also. They got me. Great marketing.
Never had a Taurus, do own the 365 and others. Went with 4 others and tested the CX4 and became a instant fanboy. Ordered one that night. Taurus obvious came out to fight hard in this Micro9 market and it shows. They seem to have taken the best of many guns and put into this lovely firearm. And it shoots great and mine is totally reliable with just about every kind of ammo I could find. Love the way they did the Off hand grip. Love the fact that they sent two back straps and two 11 rd magazines. And this gun is solid quality. A strong steel chassis, and a much improvement over the grips of others. IMO and others at the range, we alll agreed this is top dog in the Micro 9mm world.
T.O.R.O. version of the GX4 was just released. Taurus is making HUGE strides
I wish they'd stop dropping the TORO versions after we all dump money on the base versions 😠
I year later 04/2023 bought the GX4 and it’s great, bought a TORO slide from the Taurus store for $110.00, got a red dot and it’s even better ..
I've NEVER had a problem with a Taurus firearm. I have a P365XL, and a Hellcat. I really want to test a GX4.
I think it's great to see how the various brands are choosing to fill this new segment of the firearm space. I believe they're all offering excellent options. Even those that I feel are at the bottom of the pack seem to be actually good pistols that I wouldn't have any issue with carrying. It is also nice to see Taurus actively improving recently.
Without having shot one and only having watched UA-cam reviews of the GX4, it seems like a very solid option, hitting above its price point and _not_ bringing up the rear of the pack.
So far I'm VERY impressed
I wouldn't give ONE GX4 for TWO p365's. FOR REAL.... at least the GX4 hasn't BROKE STRIKERS, or had STRIKER DRAG on the BULLET TAURUS IS ON THEIR WAY TO THE TOP
The Taurus also wasn't the first micro compact 9mm on the market. They had other companies failures to learn from 😉
Facts I got one Every other gun I have is in the safe
As soon as Taurus releases the TORO version of the GX4, I'm on it like white on rice! I did the TORO conversion with my G3c and am very happy with the result (went with the CTS 1550 red dot).
The extensions and thirteen round mag really help with the bigger hands, really enjoying mine !!!
Love my GX4 great gun
Have about 200 rounds thru it with no hiccups of any kind . I looked at a few ,the Roger max 9 just didn't feel right and didn't like the trigger on the ruger.the Springfield didn't feel great in the hand but I liked the sights. Buddy of mine has one and it shoots ok
But that GX4 is feels good I can hit with it very good for a micro 7 yards .
I also have a Gluck 42 that a carry in the summer because of its size ..easy to conceal.
I compared them very little difference in size The Glock is a hair thinner but the GX4 11+1 9mm easy to conceal is a real winner here, my personal opinion you don't need optics on a micro no point in it..
Taurus does have a ameraglow big dot / night sight for the GX4 on the taurus store sight that I might get for my old eyes.
But bottom line is ..small compact high capacity and shoots good and no malfunctions . Taurus hit it on the nose with this model.. can't complain ..good gun ,buy one when you can find them, they are selling like hot cakes.
And good reason...
Man, I had 200 rounds through mine and no hiccups. I carried it for 6 months after that, and then I went shooting the other day. I had some VERY dangerous malfunctions with it just on the second mag I put through it that day. At 200 rounds I was impressed. At 212 rounds, I decided to never carry the gun again. Delayed striker, no trigger break, failure to fire at all…all on the 2nd magazine that day. I hope yours is good, but I’ll never trust it again.
TAURUS MAKES A GREAT GUN 👍
I get the trigger-finger pinch too. For a gun as small as it is through it's very manageable, just one with which I would be selective about practice ammo with.
Yeah I heard that you were having issues with some reloads. And the trigger pinch is definitely manageable, this isn't a take to the range to plink around gun anyway 🤷🏻♂️
Good to know. I've heard a couple of different stories of a couple of different issues at this point, got yours mixed up with a different one. Humble had actually told me to verify my barrel because it had some similar markings to yours. Mine is working so far, still only at about 200 rounds, haven't made it to the range again since, plunk tests showed that it should be okay.
@@workthetrigger so don’t take Taurus GX4 to range to practice with????
There's a big difference between practicing and plinking around. I can put a few hundred rounds through a Shadow 2 easier and with more comfort then I can a P01, but I wouldn't carry or train for carry with the shadow 2. I can comfortably put even more rounds though a Ruger 22/45. Way more then I could the others. There are guns who's designs accommodate more comfort on the range that are generally more fun to shoot, or "plink" with. Training isn't plinking.
Belive -it-or-not, I am have the same problem with my CZ P10C!! I talked to my friend and trainer. He suggested I try to slide the pad of my trigger finger up to the curve. It causes a heaver pull but less pinch then using it at the end of the curve.
I love this pistol but the one issue I had was after about 500 rounds I brought it home and noticed the recoil rod was sticking out the front of the frame...I was able to screw it back down with my fingers but if I hadn't noticed and it came all the way off, I would assume that would cause a major malfunction. I can't wait til Lakeline LLC or some other brand comes out with an aftermarket stainless steel recoil rod and spring like they did for the G2 and G3.
Awesome video my dude! I'm super excited to get mine. I was told today it should be coming soon!
I am really liking the trend of small, high capacity guns. Never thought I'd be legit excited about a Taurus semi auto, but the GX4 made me eat crow
@@workthetrigger yeah I think it's honestly gunna be on of the top two for the money down the line if it proves reliable.
Wish I could find one.
@@larrygarot8909 place an order with your local gun shop!
@@TerriblyTactical Thanks and will do some visiting this week.
Appreciate the great video....keep em' coming.
I know recoil is subjective as it depends on your grip and feel of a particular firearm, but I feel the hellcat has significantly more recoil to me…? 🤷🏻♂️
Same to me the sig p365 feels nice as hell but I like the gx4s trigger better and at the price it's awesome
I love my GX4 very comfortable and shoots great.
If it has more recoil than the hellcat it will be a big no for most new shooters. I have definitely been impressed with a lot of the stuff Taurus has put out lately. The TX22 is probably the best affordable 22 semiautomatic around and the G3 I have has been awesome.
The GX4 has one of the lowest recoil rating. 6.68 ft lbs, vs 6.84 for hellcat and 6.99 for Sig 365. The GX4 is a Awesome gun. Now 700 rds of every kind of ammo I could find and not one hiccup.
Low recoil!! I own one
Take the sig 365. Modular grip system to configure how you want it when you want it that way.
I absolutely love mine after shooting it for about 300 rounds my finger is sore but not to the point i want to stop shooting but in a defensive situation this gun would be a primo ccw weapon. After i bought this gun I completely retired my g2c no need for it as a self defense gun and i have better for home so unless i am going full metal like a cz sp01 nothing comes cloe to this gun for what it is made for ...
I love my gx4, they're awesome little guns
Just purchased one and can't wait to take it to the range! Thanks for the video and the great information
Got to hold one recently but not ready to replace my current system of my 365 and Shield Plus
I highly recommend checking out the trigger issues and sticking with a gun that you know is reliable. I put 200 rounds through mine right after I bought it and thought everything was fine. I carried it for 6 months after that. Then I shot it again the other day and had some very disturbing trigger issues on the 2nd mag I put through it that day. I sent it in to Taurus yesterday, so hopefully they’ll replace it with a new one, but I won’t be carrying that. I’ll probably just sell it for a loss and go with something that’s proven to be more reliable.
Sig and Taurus for the win. Both Made in America.
No other argument needed.
Actually the parts are made in Brazil. Then shipped to and assembled in Georgia. The pistil says Made in Brazil.
@@jackdavis1625 my Taurus says made in Georgia
@@RunD.Ones1s The ones Ive seen have said Made in Brazil. I contacted Taurus and they confirmed what I said. Manufactured at Brazillian plant then assembled in the Bainbridge, GA facility. Its a Brazilian gun. Doesnt much matter to me. I have a whole collection of pistols, revolvers, rifles, and shotguns made around the world.
@@RunD.Ones1s That would be a NO! Made in Brazil. Don't confuse the tag on the trigger guard that says built in America for made in America big difference.
Love my g3c! I went with the Hellcat for micro carry. To many negative reviews on UA-cam!Factory recall for not being drop safe. I didn’t even look at the gx4. I chose the Hellcat over p365.
I own 4 Taurus handguns (really like them too) and 3 Sigs (really like them also). I own Rugers too so no brand bias in what I am going to say here.
I have shot the Ruger Max 9, Hellcat and the GX4 at my range. I own the base model P365. All 4 are excellent firearms. For me and my medium large hands the P365 fits the best but I did spend $18 for two Pearce magazine pinky extensions. The Ruger Max 9 to me is over priced but shoots fairly well but to me is basically blah.... The Hellcat fit my hands fairly well but was really snappy. So was the GX4 with my pinky hanging off compared to the P365 using the exact same 115 grain FMJ range ammo. Fit, finish and reliability of the P365 (after Sig fixed the striker issues) is outstanding and worth every penny. I can't say the same for the Max 9 or the GX4 yet, it is still too early for reliability and finish. The Hellcat is a fine, high quality sub compact. However, the overall build quality of the P365 is really stunning and surpasses the Max 9 and GX4 and equals at least, the Hellcat. I am not saying good things about the P365 because it has been an easy journey for me. I had to learn how to shoot it like I was starting all over again. Lots of range hours before I felt comfortable with it. The GX4, throwing out the level of felt recoil and short grip was surprisingly easy to shoot although I also had plenty of trigger finger pinching............I just don't care for the Hellcat (more finger pinching)....... and the Ruger Max 9 just seems like a "me too" gun.
So my P365 with factory tritium night sights, two 10 round mags, manual safety (which I wanted), included polymer Sig holster and the two mag base plate extensions cost me $515. The big retailer where I bought it sells the Max 9 and Hellcat base models for $489 and the base P365 for $499. The GX4 currently is $369. Put a quality set of tritium night sights and mags with extended baseplates on the GX4 and the price is roughly the same as the others. When the GX4 base model is sub $300 I may buy one. It would be an outstanding value at around $279.
For raw ease of shooting, the G3C ($249 at the same retailer) is more comfortable to hold, easier to shoot and a better value than the GX4 where the GX4 is currently priced. Yes I know the G3C is not a sub compact but it is really close and easy to conceal, at least for me.
Say what you want but I have never had my PT111/G2C not fire even after not cleaning it for about 1000 rds. So I got the gx4 which I'm also happy with. 13+1. I hope I like my new Black Point Tactical mini wing holster.
Love my gx4. Waiting for gx4 xl toro you come around near me!!!
The area inside the trigger guard is somewhat small as the trigger length is pretty short and it pinches my finger upon trigger release . I'm glad you noticed this finger pinch but you cautioned to be careful of finger placement but my average size finger fills the guard area and leaves no option of placement . I suppose since this is a defense carry gun it's not going to be shot enough to worry over , " I suppose " .
Love the look and size of this piece
Love my gx4 Toro
Mine is having striker issues, so I'm probably going to by the Lakeline striker assembly kit.
What kind of striker issues? Could you write more about them please? Just thinking of getting myself a Gx4 but I might reconsider buying it..
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed what Taurus did. But hold on to your wallets because they're not through. I'm sure the GX4 T.O.R.O. is coming soon.
It better be. As long as it's a solid system: i.e. has some type of interface between the optic and slide, or plate slide and optic, then it's gonna be a good combo
I love my gx4, but I won't buy the TORO. I have a P365XL Romeo Zero for that. I thought it through. I was about to buy the regular 365 when the gx4 made its entrance. No regrets.I'm patiently waiting for the P365XL aftermarket to offer some metal grip frames with a non-proprietary rail and better lights. I'm through buying red dots unless Leupold refines their micro a bit (to reduce the size of that thing hanging off the back end).
@@traumajock icarus precision p365xl pro grip is just that...full length of the XL slide with a picatinny accessory rail and made of 7075 aluminum. I have it its great you can pick then up from limitless America they also offer a version that is the same length as the normal p365 grip
I don't plan on going to WW2 combat, so why would I even buy optics. At 69 plus, my eye site is still good enough to put rounds on target for the range this gun is designed.
Besides I need the extra money for my Jeeps.
The GX4 is cheaper but Taurus is gonna make a lot of that money back up with the 13R mag & the pinky extension.. it's why they're not included in the packaging
Give it a year so Taurus works the kinks out like inconsistent chamber support and some other versions like manual safety and optic ready. Its a new platform separate from the G series so it would be wise to give it some time. As it stands now it cannot unseat the other pocket micro 9s until these things are fixed or available. It is not a sub compact. Its a micro compact. Taurus will sell loads of them though because of the lower price.
Welcome back brother, it’s been a year and they fixed their sh!t 😂 now go get one they come with a 13 plus 1 now and are absolutely beautiful
Good quality reliable guns taurus!
$400 is drastic amount under the competition?
Hellcats and P365's are $482-$499 at my local gun store... Smith Shield Plus is under $420... These prices, every day during the entire pandemic...
For this gun to be a hit, it needs to be sub $300 or so... I like Taurus, but when the price is so close to what Ruger, Smith, Sig and Springfield charge, I wouldn't pick the Taurus...
Your gun store must be amazing, because around here Hellcats and P365s go for $550 and up, shields are $450 and up, typically around $475 for the base model. Pandemic or not. And we are usually some of the lowest I can find
@@workthetrigger I have several near me that never really raised their prices. I asked them why not, and they said because they still pay the same prices that they did before Covid. Other than the normal 2% or whatever annual inflation increase, the prices from the gun makers and the distributors have stayed pretty much the same during all this... so they didn't feel it was right to gouge their customers, just because they could...
I picked up a new P365 a couple months ago, stainless slide and night sights, for $478... Glock 19 Gen5 for $499. Hellcat in FDE for $487... Glock 29 for $529... Plus many more, all during Covid....
My LGS had the 365 for $490 out the door. The Shield Plus was $479.99
Those are steel sites, by the way. I love mine.
Thanks WTT. Great job. Good info.
I just purchased a new GX4. Immediately I had trigger reset issues, basically a dead trigger every 20 rounds or so. The customer service rep said that "it was common on the GX4".. They sent me a shipping label. Otherwise it shot very well.. Same size and weight as the Hellcat.
You are a Russian bot
I just got mine today. Can't wait to shoot.
my lawyers will be contacting you about the use of World Class™ to describe something firearms related.
🤣🤣
I've already stollen "the future" in reference to red dots, but I got that before you TM'd it 😉
I’ll never own a striker gun but you actually make this one feel like it’s worth a look. Just don’t see it coming close to my SIG P938 (MCarbo springs, Tillamook steel trigger) but at double the capacity and half the price, I can see where it almost makes it worth shooting yourself in the foot for!
I feel like I just spent 9 minutes in an elevator with Shallow Hal. Lol!
That GX4 looks promising. 👍
Buy a Taurus, you won’t be disappointed
Answer; yes, it will and Did.
I had a P365 and traded it off after I got my GX4 as it just sat in the Gun safe
Really? Why is that
@@graymann7762 bored with it and just didn’t carry
So no reason...
$400😕? Got mine for $250
That'll happen months after release.
Cheapest on the web right now is about 262.oddly enough, all the discounted ones are the cerkoted slide versions.
@@workthetrigger I just realized when your video was uploaded. Yeah your right.
Got my GX4 TORO version for $295 after all said and done. I'm very happy with it. I also own the P365 and Shield plus and prefer the GX4 trigger over both of those.
Bet it can't unseat the shield plus optics ready.
Unseat it from what? It's never been the market leader.
Justin opinion. Channel said it was just a 365 copy but with a bad trigger. He said it was a deal breaker having the trigger that was that stiff and heavy , one trigger pull he was measuring 9 pounds. He said when shooting his reloads a spent cases got stuck in the chamber and had to dislodge it with a tool which he said was the gun not from shooting his reloads and to be aware of that .in the comment section a lot of people saying they wouldn't buy one because of the trigger and of course he wouldn't keep it
Thing about Taurus, their product varies. More then I've seen with most. The trigger is an easy thing to get use to, but you shouldn't have to. Every other aspect of that trigger is equal to or better than the competition, they just need to drop that weight by quite a bit.
Taurus says in the manual that comes with the gun, not to shoot reloads in it so with that being said, I'm not going to hold anything against the gun because Justin Opinion used it in a way it wasn't designed to be used. If Taurus didn't say that in the manual, I would hold it against the gun. Having the G2c and a Gen 5 Glock 45, I love this trigger and prefer it over both of those.
Bruce Jenner is 71 ;)
Seen that. I commented that he should send it back to Taurus, and have it fixed, as all other reviews I have watched, including Sootch00, are measuring around 5.5 pounds.
@@704ab yes but Bruce went all the way
i like that bucket of freedom 9mm i spyed
It’s a great gun.. I shoot it better then my Glock 48 and my 365..
Picked up my new GX4 yesterday and wondering what specific 9mm ammo to use when breaking in the gun....don't want to use my critical defense rounds.
Anything you can afford but reloads
Brass casings
@@sterlingmack5394 Yes indeed...no steel.
@@larrygarot8909 I have the G2C and it eats all 9mm ammo with brass casings regardless if it’s 115, 124, etc or name brand. It’s flawless.
@@larrygarot8909 I know for fact the Taurus G2C can “eat” steel, but I only stick with brass. Now ammo is returning to store shelves, but it says one box per purchase. 🤬
Taurus has been doing great with its G series 9's. I own (and love) the G2C, which is my glove box gun, and pocket carry the P365. I've heard nothing but great things about the GX4, and might eventually replace my G2C with one. I wouldn't even think, however, of replacing my P365 with the GX4, although for those who don't want to incur the much higher price of the P365, the GX4 is not a bad compromise. Your mentioning of a better feel in the hand for both the Hellcat and the GX4 is quite commonly mentioned in reviews--almost always followed by "but the P365 still shoots way better". But one thing has recently elevated the P365 even higher above its competitors: the relatively new (and apparently not well known) MagGuts +2 extender kit. It adds 2 extra rounds to the OEM mags, and since it uses a flat metal spring instead of the usual coiled spring, it only adds a barely noticeable 1/8" of additional length, keeping the P365 at the top of its class capacity wise on a comparable height basis. Since my big hands means I must use the OEM 12 round extended mags to avoid a hanging pinkie, I'm now at 14+1, only 1 round less than a Glock 19, yet it fits easily and conveniently in my pocket (unless I'm sitting in my car--then it's the G2C, if needed.)
sig also offers a 15 round magazine
@@deadbeatbrad5484 I know--I have two. But perhaps you missed the part about the MagGuts +2 extender "only adds a barely noticeable 1/8" of additional length".
So basically if you buy any gun made in the last year or two, then you now have one of the best firearms every made.. lol.. because no one seems to miss anymore on their new releases... I sat here trying to think of a bad gun that's been released in the last 2 years and I literally can't think of one. Gun purchases have taken over my life.
Anything released lately or ever by Kel Tec is a bad gun.
@@wadewilson6135 KSG Master Race
I bought one Gx4!!! Big mistake didn’t even unload a full clip trigger stop WORKING!!! I sent it back
Clip? lmao. Yeah, don't buy firearms anymore.
Sights are metal......
No, it's not. Sig P-365 better build quality, better reputation, better sights, better grip, just better in every way.
Build quality and reputation is lacking for SIG. Their 365 wasn't ready and they used the public as their beta testers with a gun that wasn't reliable. Then let's not forget that their 320 wasn't drop safe and went off when dropped on the back of the slide.
Pretty pathetic little play there. All you said was true except you left out that the other compacts at twice the price don't do anything twice as good. And the fact that the only thing these things do is conceal well and go bang, with the same rounds coming out the opposite end. All the PONTIFICATING about small issues aren't that important. If you actually ever have to use any of these weapons in self defense, you will have them confiscated to never be seen again anyway.
... For it to matter that they take your gun, you have to survive the encounter. I have heard of enough issues with the Taurus trigger to keep me from trusting it. Much like p365s in the beginning. But the p365 outgrew it's issues and is now the most reliable of the bunch, and the hellcats don't seem to have many widespread issues.
Point being, you're going to put price over confidence in a product. I know the sig will work. I know the Springfield will work... I don't know if the Taurus will. And that's not work a couple hundred bucks.
The gx4 is smaller than the p365..
lol don't know where you got that the p365 was smaller.
I own both the P365 and GX4 and they are almost identical in size and weight.
Comparison of the *Taurus vs the SIG* by Logic:
A wash - Round count is _irreverent_ pass 6 or 7 bullets as the average shots fired in all self-defense is 2 to 4 shots (FBI data)
SIG P365 is better - higher quality, known reputation of being reliable & accurate pistol.
SIG P365 is worse - being higher end = higher price so poorer folks & low income individuals can not afford it.
Taurus GX4 is better - low price is great for the poor so now they can defend themselves too like the general public.
Also, being a copy of the Glock 43 (by ---stealing--- _borrowing_ Glock R&D) it should more reliable than most Taurus'.
Taurus GX4 is worse - Taurus has a bad reputation for unreliability & very, very poor customer service. The Taurus GX4 is lower quality than the SIG (point one). The Taurus will have lower re-sell value than the SIG. The Taurus copies Glocks R&D as said so it should work. _But_ why not just get the original (G43) instead of a copy cat (point two).
*NOTE:* (opinion) This emphasis on the trigger of CCW guns & non-competition handguns is ridiculous. Will the very small different in how a striker fired trigger works make a different is the high stress event of a shooting. Will it even matter for anything if you actually use the gun, practicing to *_learn_* the gun. There are no good or bad triggers in CCW or self-defense. There are trigger that need to be _learned._
SPRINGFIELD ARMORY - I will not buy from due to their anti-gun lobbying for more money.
EDIT: Happy FATHER'S DAY today!
no about taurus reliability. pt111 g2 mill pro, g2c g3(c) all very reliable pistols. People forget that the p365 was junk for many for months after release. MAC had 3 bad p365's in a row. I will say that these problems have finally been worked out.
Very likely the choice between most of the micro 9s should be personal preference and not brand bashing.
@@bnolsen Did you say the Pt111, G2, G3,... let's just say any Taurus was very reliable 🤔.
⏸pause for uncontrollable lol.
Back to reality:
Taurus and Hi-Point are the poster children of unreliability and the worst customer servicef. Are you a bot or gun dealer 🤔. They lie too much.
The only Taurus that "maybe" is very reliable is the PX4 and that is only because it is a Glock 43 close copy, aka a clone like Mossberg's MC1/MC2 and other copies of the Glock out there.
Interesting comment sir 👍but heavily influenced by something 🤔 that I want to know - Are you poor i.e. can not afford a Glock or HK, are you from Brazil 🇧🇷 where Taurus is made, are you a gun 🔫 dealer who promotes every gun if he can make money 💰, 😒 hmm...
“irreverent”? It doesn’t go to church? I think you meant “irrelevant”. LOL
@@tomdis8637 Poss, I mean possibly. Lol 😆.
God bless 🙏
I just got mine today at scheels if anyone is live in colony texas they have one in stock i believe one more left when i got there but i can't wait to shoot it lol
Got the last one at our Reno Scheels today.
@@larrygarot8909 yeah it is crazy how fast this little guy goes out of the Shelf but i am glad that i made that trip yesterday to purchase it. Have you shot it yet ? Are you planning to make it as you EDC ? I have my Glock 19 as my service pistol and my EDC when i am going to the restaurant to the mall etc.. But i am looking something small to carry when it is hot season in texas probably when it get cooler i will have my glock 19 back in to it as my EDC but for now on it hard to find the holster for the taurus GX4 i know it been only a week that this firearm as came out
@@BlackWolf_J93 This is the holster I ordered; UM Tactical IWB / OWB Qualifier Holster.
@@larrygarot8909 thank you
@@larrygarot8909 i just order it thank you so much have you gotten it yet ?
Do they come with a THUMB SAFETY ?????
The one I have did not. I don't believe there is a safety model offered.
No
Why would you want to be safe if you're trying to kill an attacker?
@@calholli oh crap not this again. some of us learned to shoot using 1911 style pistols. also there's this training thing too.
@@bnolsen "Education consists mainly of what we have unlearned" -- Mark Twain.
Still wouldn't trust for EDC
Why?
@Web Gem The EDC's that cost more, Well there is reason for that...
Taurus may be getting better However They are still Taurus.
I Will not Carry to Save Money over Longevity and proven Track Record of The Top Manufacturers in the game. Again This is My Opinion.
Taurus is not even in the same league as CAT and P365. Taurus is good at cutting corners.
I tend to try not to blanket statement without testing a gun out. Thus far, my GX4 has had no issues. I know of one that has, a tight throat caused feeding issues.
But sig broke strikers for a good long while, so big names are not immune to quality issues.
I value my life too much to carry taurus. I'll pass.
I have had more failures with Canik than Taurus
@@workthetrigger never shot a canik but I had bought a g3c and it wouldn't shoot more than 4 rounds without jamming. So I sold it. Then I saw something at the range I'd never seen before, a guys taurus judge broke. Like the damn cylinder wouldn't lock in. Come to find out, parts went flying off that thing. Lol. In all my years in this hobby I've even seen a non oiled dusty glock jam with steel cased bullets. But a revolver!? Lmao. The main reason ppl have revolvers is for reliability. Straight garbage
Also, I actually own some budget guns that are pretty reliable. Even a diamondback db9 that was less than 200 and has never jammed 1x! So I'm not knocking budget guns. But taurus is kaka. 💩
its still a taurus and i would not put my life on it i bought a hellcat instead
I would like Taurus to release an XL version, with the barrel and grip a little longer.
Thinking that’s where the G3C comes in.....
The ergonomics on new taurus are way above the old G2 series. I have the TX22 and it is amazing. Just give me that same gun in 9mm.
Good quality reliable guns taurus!