2024 Street Glide 117 Cam install & Dyno Tune - BUILD OFF - EP 5
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
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2024 Street Glide 117 Cam install & Dyno Tune - BUILD OFF - EP 5
In this episode we take the 2024 Harley Davidson Street Glide back to Trask Performance to see how much power it makes with an Andrews 485 Cam.
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I have owned multiple cammed M8’s. Zippers, S&S, cycle rama, and woods. Never do stud mounts and always run the stock tappet cuffs. Never had a issue.
They're more for the really high lift cams
Which cam did you like the most?
Even feuling says to run the stock plastic stuff.
@@simmon81au yeah i have a 483 in one bike
@@clubstyleridahd4695 im not sure, depends on application i suppose. The zippers 468 is fun, and the CR-483. Dont have much time with the woods yet.
Definitely my favorite HD channel on YT
Thank you 🙏
Awesome Kruesi! Now go get the CEO job from HD & lead the way for new builds! 😂
Got a 24 road glide in sturgis . Thanks for the video .
Got my wheels turning 130hp YES
Do it, it’s awesome
As a dealership tech who's been around since the m8 launched, I've never seen the plastic lifter retainers break, or ever seen a failure without those stud conversations.
Some dealer go back to the plastic retainer now, the billet one can damage the lifter they say..
I’ve never seen the Stubbs fail, but I have seen the plastic retainers fail many times
@kruesioriginals ill ask around the shop today
Definitely some impressive figures. The HP is typical stock WHP Pan America numbers but that engine is a completely different animal. Great work! Keep up the content!
Hell of an episode dam boyeee!
Thank you
thats how both my M8's were done... they upgraded the oil pump in 2020 so its good to go.. they just put in the cam, pushrods, cam bearing, tappets... put it back together and it rips
We're really seeing peak harley davidson right now arent we? This is the best time to be a harley performance fan. This stuff is awesome.
I absolutely LOVE my Fat Boy with the SE Ohlins monoshock in it.
I have never heard of the tappet cuffs failing. I replaced mine, but I dont think I needed it. They're used in Corvette engines right? If it's fine in a car liek that why is it bad in a Harley?
I think it's probably hype to sell parts.
Don't lie to everyone... You're the kind of vampire that sparkles in the sun
42k miles on my M8 with S&S cam I did about 25K miles. No issues with the stock rocker bolts, plastic cuffs I changed with the cam and new lifters. I would say Iride it fairly hard, I'm not popping wheelies and shit but I red line it daily. Stock pump and plate.
You should throw in more bloopers!!
Dug the “ Men on bikes “ analogy. One of the best shows ever. IMO
pretty good Bubbles impersonation!
I’ve ran a cycle Rama 483 cam, fueling moto push rods, exhaust, intake and tune for 20k miles with zero issues. Tuned on a power vision license 125hp 130tq. 2018 sport glide w/ 107ci m8 engine.
Serious power will that setup , now for the 135
I work at a Harley dealership, that's exactly how we do cam jobs on M8s😂 have had no issues
🤣 the look of the size difference
Between the factory Air Box….
And That S&S……Priceless
The stock power my 24’ RG makes is plenty for me. But damn those are some impressive numbers with just a few mods. The tuning is really what makes the magic.
I've had more than a few cams changed on both TCs and M8s. MY mechanic has never replaced anything in the head. just cam plate, cam bearing, oil pump, push rods, lifters, lifter blocks and of course the cam. never opened the head for a cam job. great video.
That’s a gnarly bike! I personally love the M8s. I did a full meal deal on stock 114 and it rips. Fast bikes.
FYai Fueling are working on developing new lifter keepers. They also recommend keeping the plastic versions versus replacing them with steel versions.
Impressive!! Also good to hear that you like the newer engineering.
I've only done rocker studs on my bikes. Customers simplybdont want to pay for the labor. With that being said, I've yet to have a customer complain about failure. I also believe the failure is due to not setting your adjustable push rod in the pocket. People do cam jobs themselves because it easy. But most people fail to realize how it's done properly
I would 100% agree with you
Used to work at a dealership for Harley when the m8’s originally came out. The cam plate and pump was garbage then but in 2021 they revised the plate and pump. I’ve got a buddy with a 114 and an either 485 or 475 lift cam and has like 25-30k miles and a minimum of half of that is HARD miles. Zero issues
The tuning mullet
I did a cam swap on my 2018 and proceeded to put just over 56k mikes on it with zero failures. Stock oil pump, cam plate. I did put in the S&S lifter cuffs, S&S adjustable push rods and fueling lifters. Never had any problems with the motor.
Doing a 530 cam on my 24 roadglide. Can't wait!!
Love my Andrews 485 in my 114. Great low-mid and pulls all the way up! FM and MHP also tested and published the charts for the Andrews and many other cams
Very impressive
Couldn't find another 3rd party air cleaner other than S&S to fit the 2024's. They do a base kit as well that lets you pick cover style & colour.
They’re the only only one that has one at this point. I believe Trask performance is coming out with one soon.
54k miles on my 21 street glide.. with fueling cam & stock oil pump. It has the revised pump and runs great.. Only other help added was a fanned oil cooler..
2023 m8 107. i did it the same way. no issues
god that bubbles was incredible
The way you done that is the exact way I done my 2023lowriderST at 933 miles and I'm at 4k now 4k hard miles and no issues thankfully. Took me 6-7 hours and I've never done a cam swap or any motor work on a bike... easiest shit I've ever done bro!!!
Nice video guys, thank you
I have a '22 LRST, i'm not the original owner but it has a 30/30 cam and the previous owner did swap for the S&S tappet cuffs but did not do the rocker studs. 15k+ and no issues thus far. I did, however, see a video from Feuling where he talked about the aluminum tappet cuffs not being a good thing because you can get tiny metal shavings from the slight rotation of the lifter and a better alternative being a higher quality plastic material being used, more similar to the OEM.
Former service writer here. I have seen 2 bikes with spun tappets due to the plastic keepers failing.
I’ve had them come straight from the dealership brand new tear the motors open to build the bike and they already be broken 60 miles or less on them. They are not good but they will get you by.
yes yes, riding wheelies.
thats super impressive. makes me want to do cam on mine but i dont want to void warranty right now
the 2024s really are easy to break loose rollers I love mine with 511 cam
i was unfamiliar was kruesi's bubbles impression, was cracking up at @12:05 before i heard it was a thing lmao
You should get a team member to buy a BLOCKHEAD moto exhaust and put it on this just to add some jab to the duel
Hell of a Machine,damn good stuff
At the dealer I work at we never do the studs. We do like the S&S cuffs most of the time and really only see an issue with the plastics when taking them out doing a cam job.
The rocker arm bolts have been a NON issue. We NEVER do those and I myself haven’t seen or heard a guy come back with that issue.
Most of the issues I’ve seen and heard about at the shop are lifter failures with a good amount of mileage on a tall cam. For instance the 131’s, most of the time it’s lifter failure. After 20-30k miles.
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I had a '19 Streetbob that I put 49k miles on. I never had any issues other than the shifter spline stripping and the fork seals blowing a few times. I did not, however, take apart the motor or do anything crazier than tune, pipe, and intake.
We tried finding yall at Sturgis, guess we rode right by the #thunderdome twice! Smaller rally for Sturgis but still good. Are you guys gonna hit any Texas rallies? Lots of fans down here appreciate the realness.
I have a star 30-30 cam on my 107 Softail Standard and the stock heads are holding up just fine. On my way home today the compensator ramp busted. So I suggest replacing that for sure when upgrading the cam on a M8.
That's fucking incredible dudes!!!!
I love andrews cams....got the 47h in my 03 Anni road king....with the eagle claw rips paint job....o yea
My favorite humorist
Keep the baggers (motorcycle mini vans) in the garage for family vacations. They don’t need hp. 😂🤣
I kept the stock plate and pump on my 2023lowriderST when I done my 3030 cam at 933 miles cam bearing was already upgraded from moco too.
I still think when you put the 135 in the bagger that 117 needs to go in the silver fox
This is peak M8 engine note right here.
Do you sell the parts needed to put those risers and bar on?
Fueling has a good outlook on the cuffs, my 30/30 swap is running ALL stock parts, reused...just to see what will happen. Time will tell, I plan to open it up at about 1k miles and see.
I saw in the Thrashin cam upgrade video that the guys at Feuling recommend not changing the tappet cuffs due to tolerance issues. Hell, Corvettes and Camaros have been running plastic lifter cuffs for decades. I left the plastic cuffs and also kept the stock cam plate and oil pump after watching Master Tech Miller. The bike now has 30,000+ miles since the cam job and no issues to be seen. I think a lot of this stuff is just up sales. I could see replacing the cam plate and oil pump if you are building a 200 hp engine, but it is unnecessary on a simple cam upgrade. Put that money toward suspension!
I’ve had 3 M8 bikes and all had cams done. Always used adjustable pushrods and never touched the rocker boxes or changed the oil pump/cam plate. Have used billet lifter cuffs though. They were all on 2020 or newer bikes so they had the revised oil pump. The ONLY issue I’ve had, and it’s not really an issue, is the noisy rockers. They probably need to have shims put in but that’s not a fatal issue n
Luke from feuling has a video on their UA-cam channel on why they prefer the stock plastic cuffs over the billet ones.
Ill give this vid 4 thumbs and 4 wrenches!
My bone stock 96" previously owned by the original owner of sanger cycles in Co made 134/135 rwhp/rwtq at 4500ft above sea level on 7lbs.
Andrews/woods cams are the best. I put a pair in my dyna fat bob n it took it from 70 whp to 90whp. Wow does it go
Good work as always Boyz
Im putting to an pre 13 fairing on M8 drivetrain 107 with cams. My first M8.
Fueling guys are saying the aluminum cuffs are engine eaters when they start to wear. They are coming out with a softer material that’ll hold up. And Steve chamberlain left his stock just to see what happens when he was one of the first m8 bagger guys. Idk though, I say change that 💩 and check your alignment
😤 biker build off 🏁
😅 looks like you're having fun riding it 😵💫
Hey Kruesi, I saw another video of a guy that had a problem with the cam sensor, He never said what exactly the problem was but he had pipes that look like the ones you have and I suggested that the front pipe was too close to the sensor and the heat may have damaged it. Maybe you should wrap the pipe at least where it runs by the cam cover and sensor.
We have not had any problems with ours at all
@@kruesioriginals Thanks for the reply, But I'm sure you can see what I am talking about with that pipe so close to the sensor
Is this the mid length stealth?
Cuffs and studs are cheap insurance. That being said my engine builder said anything over 500 lift the plastic stockers will allow the lifters to rotate if you like running at the limiter alot. 129ci m8 152hp 150tq
Fuel motos pushrod were 2.5 I believe. And I kept stock tubes with em. FUEL MOTO had some decent Rods for 179$
Whistle why you work.. haha Start calling him snow white hahaha
Is there any info on the cam sensor trigger that is bolted to the cam? Does it have to be timed when installed or do you just bolt it up in any position when installing new cam? Thanks for the vids and info.
No cam would be stage 1 but im pretty sure they used to call exhausted, breather, tune and cam swap is stage 2.
We need a video on that bar set up.
What handlebar setup is that?
more video for change rise and t bar please
I believe you used stock pump/plate with S&S cuffs on the Lowrider S giveaway bike. Feuling believes the S&S cuffs can shave the sides of the lifters and are creating their own version. I have the cuffs and plan to open and see what it looks like sometime.
I’ve never had any issues with them.
2018 with the 107 cammed changed the oil pump and plate never did studs. 2018 cvo with the 117 just changed the cam. 21 with the 114 doing cam now and only doing cam and cuffs.
Sick!
They say they run the same in GMs LS motors so they have a pretty high success rate. I change mine to S&S tappet cuffs
That dudes got a sexy mullet
Amen
hundreds of ccams, ive done the cuffs and not done the cuffs, never had a problem either way
21’ 107 installed 30/30 cam stock retainers always. Only issue ever had is breaking the crew trying to remove and that was fukD
Kreusi if the rods aren't set to zero lash properly will it make noise running? I think I had mine a little too tight for zero lash but I've had ni issues thankfully
Gimme a Hell yea brother.
Hell yeah! no F yeah!!
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Big cams big power big trouble
No
Where did you find the S&S air cleaner for a 2024 M8. I looked on their website and did see any. Thanks
115 hp and 128 lb/ft
haha! Miami vice music 26.29
Do you think you'd get more if you switched the cush pad in rear wheel to plastic might get better power .
Costs so much to make twin cam/big twin make big power vs the M8 but the price of a good Harley Davidson these days is pretty ridiculous (though you do get more for your money now). In a weird place where it’s almost better build a twin cam over time when you can afford it vs paying 500+ a month for a motorcycle. Though I’d feel differently if I lived in a place for year round riding.
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I had the same thought. Bought an early 103 to build and turbo. Figured I’d still come out a ways ahead money wise vs buying new.
Built my 96 to a 107 with a 584ce for $500. Fp3 tune and a dyno run of 112tq 117hp all for less than two m8 payments.
@@ride1400fast I’m kinda talking about paying a shop to do the work, for people who can’t/won’t do it.
Great video
Thanks!
I have heard the 2020 and up M8s have a better cam plate and higher flow oil pump. I would like to try this on my bike.
You still have the chopper? 😂😂😂😂
R.I.P Jim lahey.
I will go with 130 hp too
What’s the bar and riser setup? Looks about perfect for using the screen still
I'm running a S&S 475 cam chest kit in my 114 with S&S slipons.. TQ @ 128 HP@115
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Cam bearing swap?