Does the Turkish R sometimes sound like Ş?

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  • Опубліковано 18 гру 2022
  • In this video, we look at a phenomenon whose existence is vehemently denied by native Turkish speakers.

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  • @MrGianeta
    @MrGianeta 10 місяців тому +10

    OMG, this is exactly what I was looking for. I relaxed immediately when he mentioned "alveolar tap"-like terminology and then fricative and the like. Finally, something clear and technically . I would appreciate if there were schemes with the position of tongue etc. Can anybody point me to a video with a good description of Turkish phology for consonants and vowels, preferable with schematic pictures. I would like to get the answers to things like are turkish t and d dental, is there aspiration (non at all? very soft at the begining of the words for instance). what about n? dental? which sounds are palatalized (or more palatalized then say in English) and which are not. the vowels - how do that compare. For instance, when turkish speakers say "ceket" - the e I hear is very narrow and clearly pronounce in the front of the mouth, while a typical e in "ben" is very deep and sounds closer to " a" to my ears, etc. Is there smth I can watch?

    • @cleopatraonlyfans
      @cleopatraonlyfans 6 місяців тому

      Fuck yeahhhhhh this is also exactly what i was looking for
      Subscribed

  • @dregga7638
    @dregga7638 Рік тому +8

    That's the best explaination i've seen so far. I noticed a potential forth 'R' wich is when it's followed bey an consonant as in 'Merhaba' or 'Türkçe'. Or would you say it's the same as the second one you mentioned?

  • @caribmale
    @caribmale Рік тому +4

    This was very helpful. It was a challenge at first, but I wanted to sound authentic so I found that by letting out a bit of air after a voiceless R. It worked. I’m very happy now, but I’d almost been driven crazy deciphering why Gülru sounded so different between my pronunciation and that of a native speaker. 😂

  • @Tcgmaster808
    @Tcgmaster808 3 місяці тому

    very valuable video thank you sir ! short, and well explained

  • @alexandrashvydun8726
    @alexandrashvydun8726 Рік тому

    this is a great video, i can tell you know a lot about linguistics

  • @DaveHuxtableLanguages
    @DaveHuxtableLanguages Рік тому +1

    Brilliant explanation! What happens before another consonant? In the work Türkiye, for example.

  • @abluecassette
    @abluecassette Рік тому +4

    Great video, well explained! I used to always wonder why I heard a 'whistle' in words ending with r, especially evident in songs sung by Göksel.

  • @antananarywa
    @antananarywa 2 місяці тому

    Very interesting! I was trying to find info whether it is similar to Czech ř.

  • @shelookstome8727
    @shelookstome8727 Рік тому +3

    Teşekkürler!!

    • @catboy721
      @catboy721 5 місяців тому +1

      This word is the perfect example of the topic. Almost every source on the internet says that thank you should be “teh-shed-kür-LAHSH” (laş). Is it?

    • @ashsgirl
      @ashsgirl Місяць тому +1

      ​@@catboy721Yes!

  • @ceydakovan7359
    @ceydakovan7359 Місяць тому

    I‘m really trying but I just can‘t do it…

  • @nochu9753
    @nochu9753 Рік тому

    What about the sound in words like erkek for example? It sounds or it seems to sound a little different from all these 3

  • @PopDasKorn
    @PopDasKorn 6 місяців тому

    I was wondering if I heard correctly that the r in Turkish is like or similar to the r in Chinese

  • @Philantrope
    @Philantrope 21 день тому

    I did not understand how to pronounce kar or bir

  • @LL-zp7ut
    @LL-zp7ut Місяць тому

    I needed this phonology based explanation! Teşekkür ederim.

  • @alexandrashvydun8726
    @alexandrashvydun8726 Рік тому +1

    i didnt even know alveolar tapped fricatives exist!

    • @antananarywa
      @antananarywa 2 місяці тому

      It is a similar case to polish .

  • @PimsleurTurkishLessons
    @PimsleurTurkishLessons Рік тому

    Video bitince bitir neden başa sarıp tekrar anlatıyor?

  • @bozlakmapping7987
    @bozlakmapping7987 Рік тому +1

    İts not like ş but more like whistle or wind sound

  • @bensully94
    @bensully94 10 місяців тому

    Also when you pronounce Ben it sounds like ban

    • @ahmedahmedli818
      @ahmedahmedli818 Місяць тому +1

      Because there are 2 types of e in Turkish in daily speech.I am an Azerbaijani, and my language is very very similar to Turkish, but we use different letters for these types of e:
      e and ə
      Ə is the sound in the word cat.

  • @yedeque7858
    @yedeque7858 Рік тому

    2:13 burda yanlış diacritic kullandın sanırım raised oluyor öyle

    • @turkishwithanil
      @turkishwithanil  Рік тому

      Raised zaten.

    • @yedeque7858
      @yedeque7858 Рік тому

      @@turkishwithanil tap raised olamaz ki, senin anlattığın da zaten raised değil

    • @turkishwithanil
      @turkishwithanil  Рік тому

      @@yedeque7858 Literatürde bu alofonlar hep [ɾ̝] / [ɾ̝̊] olarak gösterilmiş, onu takip ettim. Keza Çekçedeki (Türkçedekinin trill versiyonu olan) Ř sesi için de /r̝/ kullanılıyor.

    • @yedeque7858
      @yedeque7858 Рік тому

      @@turkishwithanil nerde? [ɾ̞] [ɾ̞̊] olarak gösterilir zaten raised senin dediğinin tam zıttı

    • @turkishwithanil
      @turkishwithanil  Рік тому

      @@yedeque7858 Gördüğüm kadarıyla [ɾ̝] / [ɾ̝̊] ve [ɾ̞] / [ɾ̞̊] çiftlerinin ikisi de kullanılmış. (www.google.com/search?q=%22%C9%BE%CC%9D%22+OR+%22%C9%BE%CC%9D%CC%8A%22+OR+%22%C9%BE%CC%9E%22+OR+%22%C9%BE%CC%9E%CC%8A%22+turkish) Biri yanlış olsa gerek. Tap'in fricated olması için raised olması daha mantıklı geliyor bana, Çekçedeki kullanım da böyle çünkü. Ama phonetician değilim, bir dipnot düşeyim.