Ancient Greek and Roman Epitaphs to dogs can be incredibly touching. One that always comes to mind is: "Thou who passest on this path, If haply thou dost mark this monument, Laugh not, I pray thee, though it is a dog's grave. Tears fell for me, and the dust was heaped above me By a master's hand."
Excellent! I love the everyday minutiae of Roman life. I had always thought that the mastiff and wolf-type dogs were the only kinds back then. Fun to learn women had lap/purse dogs back then too! Interesting about the dogs' names too.
@@fetus2280 dogs can chase of bulls ? I've always seen farmers warn local dog walkers not to go on their property as dogs keep getting trampled by livestock, but you could be meaning different larger farm worker breeds
@@hoplite723 Certain Breeds yes, they were used to corral bulls . Mastiff type breeds in ancient times . Most of those breeds are long gone but some types are still here to this day . Romans would Fight dogs with Bulls and other animals , along with Gladiator combat etc etc . We have lost all of this over time, some were still doing it in the UK into the modern period but it was fairly rare . Cheers.
Well the Italian Greyhound and Malteser are still around, so are various descendents of the molosses (Mastino Napoletano for example). Thank you toldinstone, need to remind myself everytime to keep a copy of your book.
@@VanderlyndenJengold I’m not even sure if there is a video about Argo. I just wish for a dog as loyal as him. I would treat the little guy way better than jerk face Odysseus.
Your description pf the Maltese sounds exactly like the Maltese dogs our company secretary has. The others sound like Italian Greyhounds and Italian Mastiffs. In fact our dog pretty much fits the description of the large breed. The vast majority of dogs aren't kennel club purebreds. I suspect the dogs most of us are familiar with haven't changed radically since Roman times.
@Brian McCarthy I believe the modern day Maltese does not have a pointed muzzle. The Maltese shown in the clip is much like a modern Pomeranian which does have a pointed muzzle. Noisy little guys with a lot of character.
*_WHEN I VISITED POMPEI, THERE WAS MOSAIC AT THE ENTRANCE OF ONE OF THE HOMES WITH THE IMAGE OF A DOG AND THE WORDS "CAVE CANEM", OR "BEWARE OF DOG"._* *_I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT ABOUT THE LESS-THAN-ORNATE MODERN SIGNS WE PUT ON OUR FENCES/DOORS._*
The “cane corso” of southern Italy is the closest thing to the ancient molossi. Their very name comes from the Latin “canis cohortis”, as they were used in the Roman army. For centuries in southern Italy they have worked as shepherd dogs, their strength bring particularly useful against the wolfs who still populate many mountainous parts of southern Italy. Today the breed is being revived, afternoon having declined in the past 70 years.
Actually the Neapolitan Mastiff or "Mastino Napoletano" is the closest and cane Corso would be the next. I have a bull mastiff at the moment but the dog i had before him was a cane Corso, absolutely a perfect dog!!!
@@davidec.4021 you have peaked my interest, now i wish to see dogs in handbags post fall of western roman empire. like Visigothic monarchs with handbag-dogs or something along those lines :D
I finally took a trip to Rome a few weeks ago and saw many of the great historic sights. Im glad I watch this channel because I was able to recount some of your knowledge to my family at different sites! Thank you for spreading this knowledge, and for making it entertaining as well!
Great video as always! I picked up your book on audio and it answered my question “well what about cats?” Will definitely be picking up a hard copy in the near future to bring to your next book signing
Small dogs werent always pampered pets. I believe most agree that early small breeds were bred to hunt rats and remained very useful for this centuries afterwards
Love it! Great Video. Still waiting on the video about Roman citizenship. WOuld like to know all about the ins and outs and benefits compared to non-citizens.
Well, I would say that some of them still exist. In Sicily we still have two breeds since the antiquity. And the Cane corso is diffused in all of Italy; the neapolitan mastiff is also quite famous
I loved you book and your videos! thanks for the great content. One thing I'd be interested to know more about is the ideas around luck and superstition in ancient Rome. Seems like an idea thats probably been around forever, but we aren't any closer to understanding.
I had a Rottweiler for 9 years, supposedly descended from roman dogs mixed with German breeds. I don’t think dogs have changed all that much in 2000 years. I can imagine a Roman centurion sharing the camp fire with his loyal beast on campaign deep in the forests of Germania 🤔
Dogs have changed massively in just the last 150 years or so. All modern breeds didn’t exist before that time period. There were no pedigrees. Then the English started creating all these different breeds for different working and sporting purposes and the rest of the world followed.
Man’s best friend…,when we rose out of the mud as a species our loyal boys weren’t in front of us nor were they behind us but they were side by side next to us they are too prefect for this life
As someone who was introduced to you via ForeheadFables, my opinion may not super valuable. That being said, thank you for finding ways to introduce, from what I can see, a great synopsis of genuinely asked questions. Plus being willing to associate with them the way Ken Jennings did with you is fittingly hilarious 😂 Looking forward to more of your stuff, Dr. Ryan. 👍
Imagine if we could resurrect ancient dog breeds or varieties via genetic cloning. Like imagine yourself owning a Celtic Wolfhounds or North American Direwolfs or Molossian..... That would be so goddam cool
How much did Roman dogs contribute to the genetic lineage of dog breeds in outlying areas? The narrator mentioned a dog strong enough to pull small carts. The Rottweiler breed was developed in Rottweil, Germany, a town founded in the 1st century AD as 'Arae Flaviae" by the Romans. Rottweilers are a strong breed that in the 19th century were used by butchers to pull small carts full of meat. Is there any connection, I wonder?
Garrett could you please make a video about the crest on top of the Roman helmets that officers would wear? I'd like to know more about who wore them and when. Btw loved your book. Wrote a nice review on audible mentioning this channel.
Awesome video! If you like this topic you might also like to hear more about extinct dog breeds of North America. There is a good video by 'Trey the explainer'. Not affiliated just also a good video.
wish someone would do a history video on King Garamantes who was rescued by his giant pack of dogs when he was captured in battle...havent found much detail about the story or what the dogs looked like. My favorite dog breed (the Azawakh) is from that region so i like to think it was their ancestors :)
Was initially going to skip through the advert, but was surprised that it actually sounds like quite a useful idea. Thank you for continuing the excellence of your content to your choice of sponsors!
*Fun fact:* Emperor Domitian had during his youth a dog named Lupo, which was treated with great affection by the young Flavian. One night, the future Emperor beat a normal citizen during a game of dice in a low-class bar. When the citizen refused to pay Domitian the money he owed him, Domitian ordered his dog to bite the man. While the dog attacked his prey, Domitian wrote down the amount of money the man owed as a reminder for the next time they met (666 sesterces). Later Christians would use that number in order to associate Domitian with the Antichrist. As for the dog, Domitian lost it while traveling through Pompeii, being possibly the reason his character hardened so much during his reign.
@@dariansergo8451 The Anthony Burguess' book "The Kingdom of the Wicked" (which is based on a great amount of classical sources) talks in detail about Domitian and his dog
actually the molossians are the direct ancestors to cane corso, italian mastiff, american bull dogs and hundreds of other molosser types. this we know for certain.
Today the small greek dog breed of Kokoni is of ancient origin... a dog that used to be in the houses keep company to the kids and the women and still is today..
British historian Bethany Hughes made a program about Pompeii and she visited that house with the famous dog mosaic on the floor with the "Caveat canem" sign -and then she met a man who had a Molossian hound that might be a descendant of that dog-the dog looked quite gross by my tastes with saliva dribbling constantly from its mouth and it had a really inelegant shape!
Hey, my dad built a small dog cart for our St Bernard back when I was a kid so that makes me totally believe that an emperor would have harnessed a brace of dogs to a chariot for an evening perambulation around his estate. LOL Seriously though, we kids were supposed to be in a Christmas parade but my dad knew us younger two would never be able to walk that far so he created a dog cart out of conduit poles and plywood, painted it all green, made a harness covered in plastic holly, bolted that to the frame, and would fasten the dog into it. Fortunately, Andy, the dog, absolutely LOVED his cart and would go get it even after the parade and bring it to the door, waiting for us kids to come out and get in. We'd fasten the harness (he'd drag the cart up to the door in his teeth), get in, and go wherever he felt like going. There was no controlling him as, in the parade, Dad had led him on a leash. Since nobody wanted to get down and walk with him, we let him just go wherever he wanted to, which led to some interesting rides, sometimes through the nearby woods. LOL Andy was an exceptional dog and an exceptional St Bernard.
I wonder if that image of the seated dog at 0'46 is what inspired the HMV (His Master's Voice) original logo? There were a few old brand names etc that have Latin or Greek inspirations - Nivea face cream comes from the Latin word for snowy, Ajax (stronger than grease) cleaner ,
Gotta love how small dogs were treated exactly the same back then as today. Small, spoiled, carried inside bags.
He never said they were carried in bags
@@MrShanester117 Watch the video again but with the sound on.
My little Dachshund rides inside a bright red tote bag It's just so cute to see her
Ancient Greek and Roman Epitaphs to dogs can be incredibly touching. One that always comes to mind is:
"Thou who passest on this path, If haply thou dost mark this monument, Laugh not, I pray thee, though it is a dog's grave. Tears fell for me, and the dust was heaped above me By a master's hand."
Drew a tear from me dammit
💔💔😭😭😭💔💔
Remembered dearest old friends.
Anybody who has buried a dog will understand. 🐶😪
the dog depicted in the mosaic at 0:49 is doing that funny side eye thing dogs do and idk why I find that so comforting
Excellent! I love the everyday minutiae of Roman life. I had always thought that the mastiff and wolf-type dogs were the only kinds back then. Fun to learn women had lap/purse dogs back then too! Interesting about the dogs' names too.
Ya had to deal with Vermin somehow,, cats can only do Mice ... Dogs can do everything else, from corral Bulls, Cattle, Sheep to Ratting out a barn .
@@fetus2280 dogs can chase of bulls ? I've always seen farmers warn local dog walkers not to go on their property as dogs keep getting trampled by livestock, but you could be meaning different larger farm worker breeds
@@hoplite723 Certain Breeds yes, they were used to corral bulls . Mastiff type breeds in ancient times . Most of those breeds are long gone but some types are still here to this day . Romans would Fight dogs with Bulls and other animals , along with Gladiator combat etc etc . We have lost all of this over time, some were still doing it in the UK into the modern period but it was fairly rare . Cheers.
@@hoplite723 Corgies were bred to herd cattle. Their legs are small so they can nip cows’ rear ankles without getting kicked in the head.
Men like these pups too :(
The Stephanos tomb thing was actually wholesome
Well the Italian Greyhound and Malteser are still around, so are various descendents of the molosses (Mastino Napoletano for example). Thank you toldinstone, need to remind myself everytime to keep a copy of your book.
Yeah there's plenty of Molossian descended breeds left
I had a maltese growing up, they're great
History feels so much more alive when topics like this get covered! Excellent video!
I wish I knew what breed Argo was. The most loyal dog ever.
Argos? Odysseus' dog? Haven't watched the video yet.
@@VanderlyndenJengold I’m not even sure if there is a video about Argo. I just wish for a dog as loyal as him. I would treat the little guy way better than jerk face Odysseus.
Probably a molossus or some hound for hunting.
Named my shepsky argos and hes the best dog ive ever had
easy, he is of the good boi breed.
I just love the idea that dog prints are in drying roof tiles. Like footprints in drying concrete.
A moment of silence for my dawg Stephanus- he was a good boi
on a serious note, great job as always!
Deeply appreciated!
that guy loved his dog so much. his love spans the ages and we can see it today. The best boy Stephanus.
Your description pf the Maltese sounds exactly like the Maltese dogs our company secretary has. The others sound like Italian Greyhounds and Italian Mastiffs. In fact our dog pretty much fits the description of the large breed. The vast majority of dogs aren't kennel club purebreds. I suspect the dogs most of us are familiar with haven't changed radically since Roman times.
@Brian McCarthy
I believe the modern day Maltese does not have a pointed muzzle.
The Maltese shown in the clip is much like a modern Pomeranian which does have a pointed muzzle.
Noisy little guys with a lot of character.
I love your videos! They are so interesting, and your voice is very calming.
That statue of the Laconian/Vertragus hounds is exquisite. I'd sell my granny just to own a copy.
FWIW, I gather it's in the British Museum and now I'm plotting a visit.
Instantly clicked, simply love your content!
*_WHEN I VISITED POMPEI, THERE WAS MOSAIC AT THE ENTRANCE OF ONE OF THE HOMES WITH THE IMAGE OF A DOG AND THE WORDS "CAVE CANEM", OR "BEWARE OF DOG"._*
*_I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT ABOUT THE LESS-THAN-ORNATE MODERN SIGNS WE PUT ON OUR FENCES/DOORS._*
Why bold and italics?
@@bedgegog so you really know we need mosaics
@@bedgegog it's Big Richard, it's just the way he speaks.
Please don't yell at us ☹
Richard, everyone has those thoughts when standing in front of that dog mosaic. Nothing new here.
Thank you for this informative video. I'd love to watch one on Roman cats 🐈.
3:59 whoever carved that was a genius!
Your videos are like having access to a university quality lectures. Thank you for doing this!
The “cane corso” of southern Italy is the closest thing to the ancient molossi. Their very name comes from the Latin “canis cohortis”, as they were used in the Roman army. For centuries in southern Italy they have worked as shepherd dogs, their strength bring particularly useful against the wolfs who still populate many mountainous parts of southern Italy. Today the breed is being revived, afternoon having declined in the past 70 years.
Actually the Neapolitan Mastiff or "Mastino Napoletano" is the closest and cane Corso would be the next. I have a bull mastiff at the moment but the dog i had before him was a cane Corso, absolutely a perfect dog!!!
@@luciusmacdonald8546 actually it's the rottweiler that's the closest
Its not your fault, its the sponsorship, you read the ad copy you're given, but the term "Self Care App" has fully melted my brain
Just got your book Ryan. I'm excited to start it soon.
I hope you enjoy it!
so dogs in purses have been invented at least twice
They were never un-invented
@@davidec.4021 you have peaked my interest, now i wish to see dogs in handbags post fall of western roman empire. like Visigothic monarchs with handbag-dogs or something along those lines :D
@@trashpanda8925 they were incredibly common at various times in Chinese courts as well. That's how we got the pekenese
This needs a multi-part, multi-hour video, not a mere 5 minutes (excluding the sponsor message)!
Great video and very nicely curated backgrounds on each slide too!
Enjoyed the video!
Great video as always. Please do a special on dog burials and tombstones in the future.
roman cats would be an excellent video as well!
I finally took a trip to Rome a few weeks ago and saw many of the great historic sights. Im glad I watch this channel because I was able to recount some of your knowledge to my family at different sites! Thank you for spreading this knowledge, and for making it entertaining as well!
absolutely love your videos. especially enjoyed the breakdown of the collosuem cost of today and back when it was orinigally built.
Great video!
Forget Jurassic park. Bring the doggos back.
it might be interesting if it were possible to extract DNA from any dog bones found from this period to see how they are related to modern breeds.
Very fascinating, great video.
I really like how the dogs were buried next to them.
Thank you for the video.
Great video as always!
I picked up your book on audio and it answered my question “well what about cats?”
Will definitely be picking up a hard copy in the near future to bring to your next book signing
Small dogs werent always pampered pets. I believe most agree that early small breeds were bred to hunt rats and remained very useful for this centuries afterwards
And were also a delicacy. I'm not even kidding.
I’ve always been most impressed with the dogs that were bred to gamble with playing cards….😉
"It shall be done in less than a dog sits"
*-Emperor Augustus' usual quote*
I always enjoy your videos. 🙂👍
“Woof!” - The wise words of a Hunting Dog from Rome: Total War
owner - passes away
dog - guess I'll die too
0:29 So Roman dogs also chased tennis balls?
As a dog lover, I enjoyed this video. Very Informative. You cover this topic in one of the chapters in your book.
Glad you enjoyed it! When writing the script, I took a few paragraphs from my book, and expanded them with additional information.
Bring back the roman doggos
I wish these videos were longer.
Lol the tennis balls background
Hahaha the dogs bred for poker!
It astonishes me how "modern" Romans were, and yet their civilization still collapsed.
Women
~1000 years was a remarkable run for any civilization - count the Byzantine world as a continuation, and Roman civ. lasted ~ 2000 years.
As both a romaboo and a dog fanatic i feel like this is the epitome of your channel!! Thank you for making this!
Love it! Great Video. Still waiting on the video about Roman citizenship. WOuld like to know all about the ins and outs and benefits compared to non-citizens.
Well, I would say that some of them still exist. In Sicily we still have two breeds since the antiquity. And the Cane corso is diffused in all of Italy; the neapolitan mastiff is also quite famous
as an artist that has made a bunch of pet drawings/painting I am not surprised at all someone with money commissioned a painting.
That Molossian is in the British Museum. I took a dash through the Rome section last time I had business in ThatLondon.
I loved you book and your videos! thanks for the great content. One thing I'd be interested to know more about is the ideas around luck and superstition in ancient Rome. Seems like an idea thats probably been around forever, but we aren't any closer to understanding.
Could you please do one on Roman fauna? Maybe there are some weird extinct sightings on record.
Second this, heavily.
Gets my vote!
I wish my departed dog had an inscribed tomb. I have to make do with a shrine, though.
“The costumes, props, and scenery change, yet the play remains the same.”
I had a Rottweiler for 9 years, supposedly descended from roman dogs mixed with German breeds. I don’t think dogs have changed all that much in 2000 years.
I can imagine a Roman centurion sharing the camp fire with his loyal beast on campaign deep in the forests of Germania 🤔
Yes you are right expect not shepherds but mix with black and tan terriers from England
They had them wear cool armour as well
Dogs have changed massively in just the last 150 years or so. All modern breeds didn’t exist before that time period. There were no pedigrees.
Then the English started creating all these different breeds for different working and sporting purposes and the rest of the world followed.
On my command, release Hell!
and they were all good puppies
That story about Rhodope and his pupper Stephanos brought a tear to my eye. I bet Stephanos was the bestest of boys!
Read about Gelert, the faithful hound of Prince Llewelyn if you want a weepy…
Man’s best friend…,when we rose out of the mud as a species our loyal boys weren’t in front of us nor were they behind us but they were side by side next to us they are too prefect for this life
@Let Your L⚡️GHT Forever Shine ❤️
Let your comment be used as a dislike button not the irrelevant opinion that no one asked for as it is
As someone who was introduced to you via ForeheadFables, my opinion may not super valuable. That being said, thank you for finding ways to introduce, from what I can see, a great synopsis of genuinely asked questions.
Plus being willing to associate with them the way Ken Jennings did with you is fittingly hilarious 😂
Looking forward to more of your stuff, Dr. Ryan. 👍
Thank you sir
Imagine if we could resurrect ancient dog breeds or varieties via genetic cloning. Like imagine yourself owning a Celtic Wolfhounds or North American Direwolfs or Molossian..... That would be so goddam cool
They were all very very good boys.
Cute puppers!
The Mark Felton of Rome
For so long I thought your channel name was Tod Linstone LMAO!!!
Funny what we see at a glance
How much did Roman dogs contribute to the genetic lineage of dog breeds in outlying areas? The narrator mentioned a dog strong enough to pull small carts. The Rottweiler breed was developed in Rottweil, Germany, a town founded in the 1st century AD as 'Arae Flaviae" by the Romans. Rottweilers are a strong breed that in the 19th century were used by butchers to pull small carts full of meat. Is there any connection, I wonder?
Garrett could you please make a video about the crest on top of the Roman helmets that officers would wear? I'd like to know more about who wore them and when. Btw loved your book. Wrote a nice review on audible mentioning this channel.
Thank you :)
Awesome video! If you like this topic you might also like to hear more about extinct dog breeds of North America. There is a good video by 'Trey the explainer'. Not affiliated just also a good video.
As a dog lover, I really enjoyed this post. It seems Louis Vuitton (LV) proudly « backs » the ancient Pomeranian (at 4:02)… 😛
Humans never really change.
wish someone would do a history video on King Garamantes who was rescued by his giant pack of dogs when he was captured in battle...havent found much detail about the story or what the dogs looked like. My favorite dog breed (the Azawakh) is from that region so i like to think it was their ancestors :)
Modern breed standards are the worst thing to happen to dogs.
I agree
Was initially going to skip through the advert, but was surprised that it actually sounds like quite a useful idea. Thank you for continuing the excellence of your content to your choice of sponsors!
dogs are being bred much faster than they can naturally evolve and diversify
I had Dogue Du Bordeauxs for many years and they are an ancient breed that most likely existed during the classic period
*Fun fact:* Emperor Domitian had during his youth a dog named Lupo, which was treated with great affection by the young Flavian. One night, the future Emperor beat a normal citizen during a game of dice in a low-class bar. When the citizen refused to pay Domitian the money he owed him, Domitian ordered his dog to bite the man. While the dog attacked his prey, Domitian wrote down the amount of money the man owed as a reminder for the next time they met (666 sesterces). Later Christians would use that number in order to associate Domitian with the Antichrist. As for the dog, Domitian lost it while traveling through Pompeii, being possibly the reason his character hardened so much during his reign.
Can you name source?
@@dariansergo8451 The Anthony Burguess' book "The Kingdom of the Wicked" (which is based on a great amount of classical sources) talks in detail about Domitian and his dog
@@TetsuShima You are very kind.
actually the molossians are the direct ancestors to cane corso, italian mastiff, american bull dogs and hundreds of other molosser types. this we know for certain.
Today the small greek dog breed of Kokoni is of ancient origin...
a dog that used to be in the houses keep company to the kids and the women and still is today..
they were all good boys
It was funny seeing you on forehead fables
Love ur videos
British historian Bethany Hughes made a program about Pompeii and she visited that house with the famous dog mosaic on the floor with the "Caveat canem" sign -and then she met a man who had a Molossian hound that might be a descendant of that dog-the dog looked quite gross by my tastes with saliva dribbling constantly from its mouth and it had a really inelegant shape!
Bethany Hughes looked quite gross by my tastes with saliva dribbling constantly.
Love your videos!
Perhaps now a video on the feline members of our (and the Roman) World?!!
I feel so much guilt for not having bought your book yet... I enjoy your videos so much. I promise I'll buy it 🤣
Hey, my dad built a small dog cart for our St Bernard back when I was a kid so that makes me totally believe that an emperor would have harnessed a brace of dogs to a chariot for an evening perambulation around his estate. LOL Seriously though, we kids were supposed to be in a Christmas parade but my dad knew us younger two would never be able to walk that far so he created a dog cart out of conduit poles and plywood, painted it all green, made a harness covered in plastic holly, bolted that to the frame, and would fasten the dog into it. Fortunately, Andy, the dog, absolutely LOVED his cart and would go get it even after the parade and bring it to the door, waiting for us kids to come out and get in. We'd fasten the harness (he'd drag the cart up to the door in his teeth), get in, and go wherever he felt like going. There was no controlling him as, in the parade, Dad had led him on a leash. Since nobody wanted to get down and walk with him, we let him just go wherever he wanted to, which led to some interesting rides, sometimes through the nearby woods. LOL Andy was an exceptional dog and an exceptional St Bernard.
Cute backgrounds.
Gosh I wish your videos were longer
Fabulous!
I wonder if that image of the seated dog at 0'46 is what inspired the HMV (His Master's Voice) original logo? There were a few old brand names etc that have Latin or Greek inspirations - Nivea face cream comes from the Latin word for snowy, Ajax (stronger than grease) cleaner ,
Fabulous didn’t work for me at all. The layout is confusing. The subscription also auto renewed for like $40.
“Dawgs, yeh I like dawgs”
I like caravans more.
00:47 His Master's Voice? 😉
Only 3 types of dogs available in ancient China, sweet & sour, plum or Peking sauce.
Dogs ❤️
Nice video! Can you do a similar one for cats - bonus points for Egyptian history, obviously
They are still good boys and good girls