The Newspaper of Ancient Rome
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- Graffiti, gossip, and the daily gazette: it was easier - and harder - to get the news in ancient Rome than you might think…
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:27 Graffiti and public addresses
2:18 Gossip, rumor, chit-chat
3:05 Morning Brew
4:06 Rome’s daily newspaper
6:07 Town criers
6:41 Spreading the news
He forgot to mention that the gazette was sponsored by the Guild of Millers. “The Guild of Millers uses only the finest grain. True Roman bread for true Romans”
Indeed 👍🌿😆🌿
literally went in the comments immediately before watching the video just to see someone shout out the guild of millers
Wtf i love miller lite
bro go back to ur RPG games on pc you damn larper 🤣
Corporatio*
I always thought about the newsreader from HBO Rome. That man was an absolute unit.
"True Roman bread for true Romans."
Fantastic programme!
ok glad we're all on the same page here 😁👍
He was indeed sponsored by the guild of millers lol.
He was there for delivering exposition in the show as well as showing how Romans got their news. Very clever.
presented to you by the millers guild. The guild of millers uses only the finest grains. True Roman bread for true Romans!
Rome for f**ng Romans eh
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That wine meme is legitimately hilarious.
*Fun fact:* The newsreader guy from the 2005 tv series "Rome" is so badass, the IMDB page of the show lists him as one of the main characters despite not participating in the plot. What a LEGEND 😎💪
Oh my
There are so many people in this video's comment section complementing this guy that I want to go watch the show just for him! Somebody should find out what the guy's Twitter is and post it so we can all notify him to come here and read his praises!
@@geekdivaherself Ian McNeice is a veteran British actor. He played Baron Harkonnen in Dune miniseries (2000) and loads of other roles for almost 50 years now. At the age of 71 he's doesn't seem to be into twitter that much. He's just retweeting his grandkids.
In a way, he was one of the greatest characters.
He was great in Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls
Crazy, I'm quite a bit of a Rome nerd but I never knew how they got their news was so complex! I knew about the road maps, concrete, and such; But I always assumed that roman news was some dude from the next town over saying "holy fuck guys you won't BELIEVE the shit going on in Germania right now" but they had full newspapers. God, things never truly change
When the Acta Diurna is more reliable than some modern news sources
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the gazette also included it's own "The Family Circus" comic strip. It was just like ours except with more crucifixions.
“Fake news” - Cicero, 63BC. A direct quote.
Lost his life for spreading nonsense too
In many ways Rome hasn't changed much nowadays because the Roman citizenship still lives on gossip. Living in Rome we actually knew everything about our politicians what they were up to! Gossip flies much faster than TV news....
Imagine what a complete set of Acta Diurna (The daily Gazette) would mean for our picture of ancient Rome.
One place where we might still find a set of the Acta would be the library of the Villa of the Papyri in Herculaneum, since it was built for the father-in-law of Julius Caesar, who ordered the Acta to be compiled, presumably in his role as Pontifex Maximus. Those might go back to 59 BC. The library might also house the 80 volumes of the Annales Maximi covering 400 to 133 BC.
@@faithlesshound5621 I know about that , if only we’ll get the technology to extract it in our lifetime. It would cover up to early Imperial Rome (AD 79).
@@faithlesshound5621 There are about 500,000 papyri which were discovered in an ancient trash dump at Oxyrhynchus in Egypt in 1898 and are being painstakingly reconstructed (only around 5000 have been reconstructed in over 100 years). The dates span from the third century BC to the sixth century AD, and the papyri are mostly everyday documents. I think it's pretty likely that if the Acta Diurna were popular and widespread, at least some portion of some day's news will be found there. As far as I know, right now we have absolutely nothing from the Acta Diurna except references in other materials.
@@joshconeby The rate at which those papyrus fragments are being studied is a disgrace, considering the number of classical scholars in Oxford. 1% in 120 years! Any state university in the USA would have done better.
Unfortunately, there are record repositories all around the world which are doing worse than that. I hope they are decaying more slowly now than if they had remained in the ground.
@@faithlesshound5621 AI could solve this
Might be interesting to add that some countries that follow Latin based law and government still publish an official Acta Diurna. As an example, the Portuguese Empire and now Brazil publishes the Diario Oficial, which is the contemporary equivalent to the Roman Acta Diurna. Even the names are similar
Edit: typos
In Denmark we have the same, "Statstidende", "Journal of the State", with new laws and announcements, verdicts, deaths etc. etc. I guess many countries have.
Metropolis which is near Gotham has the Planetae Diurna…
@@get_fucked I am sure Russia has one too, but only giving the exact information the government feel safe about getting out. As for statistics they will be left out or very twisted if they don't like the real ones. But they will gladly write which new law will also give you 15 years in Sibiria. Some official information from Russia's government might be true, but *none of it can be trusted.*
4:18 That headline :D
Some things never change! Every few weeks I see a story of a dog who stays with its deceased human friend. Love your videos! My fave channel
cicero literally cancelled catiline
And Marcus Antonius had that Cicero cancelled... permanently 🌿😆🌿
You slipped that advertisement into the video so smoothly. Didn't know it was happening until it was too late.
I remember reading years ago that some Roman writer (maybe Ovid?) got annoyed with how quickly freshly whitewashed walls got filled up by lewd or insulting graffiti and he said "white walls have become blank pages for fools", or something to that effect.
The image around the 1-minute mark is awesome and hilarious. Can we get some back story about it?!
Back in 2019, I had a mock symposium for some family and friends, later featured in my video on Greek and Roman drinking games. The image is a still from that video.
_A _*_toldinstone_*_ video a day keeps the boredom away._
would have love to have a guild of millers sponsor joke in this video lol.
I am certain that the competitor was Planetae Diurna with its well-known divinus reporter Clarkus Kentus.
RNN "Roman News Network" simple but still funny Thank you!
true roman news, for true romans
Had to sit through the whole entire ad to find out whether or not the daily gazette thing was a joke
Fascinating! People were very similar in their appetites even in ancient Rome.
I loved the “boxed wine” part..😂🤣😂
Ian McNeice was the newsreader in HBO's Rome.
A yes the good ol' messageboard 'n' gossip.
Along with the 'guy reading the newspaper aloud'
Just like in Fiddler on the roof (in the scene introducing Perchick)
Oh my
That is all
Cisero’s “against catline” really were a pain in the ass to study lmao
I like your newspaper date pun.. in 79 AD senator claims volcano is "nothing to worry about" .. just why does that remind one of contemporary politicians...
Last time I was this early, Rome was still a Kingdom
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Hey man love your videos. Just picked up the Audible edition of your book. Excited to start listening tonight!
Best history channel on UA-cam imo
I've always wondered about this. Love the videos.
6:08 This town crier was the absolute chad of the HBO's show "Rome" (Julius Caesar and Octavian were absolute b*tches compared to him). Despite constantly changing his loyalty according to the news he was ordered to read, he not only survived all the conflicts until the end of the show, but also became more and more popular with the citizens. It wouldn't have been surprising at all watching him reading the news about Romulus Augustulus' deposing by the Goths
I would have made Rome more like the way Tacitus, Suetonius and Dio descriptions, not made up half fairy tale stuff... and I would have had the series Rome not end until Nero's demise...
@@optimusprinceps3526 Hope you have a lot of cash to pump into publishing several more seasons of the show. The show was already cram-packed because they only had funding for 2 seasons. As a result the second season feels very disjointed, albeit still enjoyable.
I don't know what you mean about fairy tale stuff... Maybe you mean the liberties taken with some of the characters (such as Atia, but also characters such as Titus Pullo & Lucius Vorenus) which required you to suspend your disbelief quite a bit in some instances?
If so, yeah, those arches did spin a bit of a yarn sometimes, and foregoing them for a quicker historical plot development probably would have been preferable.
My only minor gripe would be the casting choice, which in some instances didn't make a ton of sense to me-- for example the casting & recasting of Octavian. I liked Julius Caesar's actor & thought his performance was great overall, but I felt there are probably many other actors that shared much more of a likeness to Caesar. For example, maybe casting Italian actors to play Romans would have been a good choice : ))
I also think it would have been awesome to go that extra mile and have the dialogue be in classical Latin with subtitles... That would have been an awesome touch of authenticity to their fairly authentic, awesome set design... But then again, I can see why they wouldn't want to go that route considering the illiterate masses...
@@user-lh1wr9sr8m There's actually a recent italian series about the founding of Rome called "Romulus", in which the dialogues are in ancient latin. You should definitely give it a watch
@@OptimusMaximusNero Where can it be watched?
@@user-lh1wr9sr8m Fairy Tale stuff, like the whole Octavia and Octavian thing, the Marc Anthony and their Mother thing, some was too unbelievable to me, almost as bad as Caligula
@toldinstone Brother, that was the smoothest transition to a sponsor pitch that I've ever seen. Nicely done.
The way these "Notarii" gather news reminds me so much about how 17th Century newspapers in London gather their news from: from St. Paul's Cathedral. That is why those publishers are near that particular location...
Same as nowadays in our modern media. Hi and greetings from Germany.
Salutations to you Germania ✌️🌿😁🌿
Im here from the general sam podcast. You made it the most interesting and entertaining episode to listen too
Could you make a more in depth video on the acta diurna? Can't really find much on the actual artifacts, if there are any. That'd be a intriguing video.
Unfortunately, we don't know much about the acta diurna - no "issue" survives, and this video summarizes most of the little we can glean from ancient authors.
Seamless ad integration, I loved it!
1:15 Roman News Network?
Romanus Notitia Network?
Yes, I checked Google translate for Network and it gave me "Network" as an answer.
Ok let's see how much I remember...
O tempora, o mores!
Senatus haec intellegit
Consul videt
Hic tamen vivit!
Immo vero etiam in senatum venit
Fit publici consuli particeps
Nos, autem, fortes viri
Satis facere rei publicae videmur
Something something
Ad mortem te, Catalina!
Duci iussu consulis iam pridem opertebat
In te conferri pestem
quam tu in nos omnes iam diu machinaris!
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It gets burned into the memory, doesn't it?
Fascinating topic, thanks a bunch for posting this big dog!
I thought the guy at 0:10 was Marc Antony, and the occasion was the philippics
First thing I would do if I went back in time would be to secure a wealthy benefactor and invent the printing press. Roman politicians loved money, but they loved influence more.
I've heard that the Roman aristocrats wouldn't have really appreciated the steam engine, but maybe something like an aeroplane would pique their interest more
@@1224chrisng Those Roman Elites would have been mind boggled by Whiskey and Fireworks too 👍🌿😆🌿
@@1224chrisng Remember, the Roman elite treats such marvels as that, marvels and not actual groundbreaking devices. More toy than tool in their eyes...
@@optimusprinceps3526 Pretty sure almost every culture on Earth has, in one way or the other, discovered alcohol
@@person8064 he said whiskey, not alcohol.
Amazing video!
It is so interesting learning about how they received the news.
Ancient Rome is so fascinating.
Thank you for the video.
love the vids
This is the best channel!
Fascinating! Again, super interesting topic! It always boggles my mind how much information you have about daily life. I do have a few questions about that newsreader from the series 'Rome' though. He uses several hand/arm gestures while reading the news, were those gestures part of giving formal speeches? If so, why didn't the senators do it in the series? Or do we know if they did? And also, did the other large cities in the Empire have this same system for the news?
The newsreader in HBO's Rome is using the rhetorical gestures described by Quintilian (Rome's foremost teacher of rhetoric in the reign of Trajan). We don't know whether these gestures would have been used in the relatively informal context of a herald proclaiming the news, but it's a good bet that they were.
As far as we know, the acta diurna were published only in Rome, and no other city in the empire had anything comparable.
In Rome do they call medical IV’s “Fours”?
"Plebeian Weirdo Brings Boxed Wine To Symposium" LOL
1:20 🤣🤣
I wonder if Daily Gazzet had joke section
Comics and puzzles ?
I don't know why, but I love this new watchtime graph. It's just funny seeing the end of the ad always being the "most replayed" section.
toldinstone and all is well(great)!
Great video, again. I like them all.
Any idea what the Acta was printed on/what the actual 'paper' material was composed of?
It would have been written on papyrus
Caesar and Cicero certainly would have used twitter. Caesar: "I cam, I saw, I conquered" Cicero: "Again I saved my fatherland. Appreciation and gratitude for myself!" 😉
TRVE ROMAN BREAD FOR TRVE ROMANS
Panis Romanus pro veris Romanis
👍🌿😆🌿 Caveat Emptor Plebian
Literally always killing it with the sponsors dude
Love the channel, bought your book, 1/2 way through Love it too! I'd love to learn about tourism during antiquity. Was that a thing? Did people take vacation? Was there lots of people from outside Rome and Greece traveling there to take in the sites and vice versa? I'm only aware of scholars or armies traveling places. Just curious! Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
Deeply appreciated!
Hi mr. Ryan - really interesting stuff! Do you have any sources on this town crier and daily gazette stuff? Because I wrote my thesis on the Roman Republic and "democracy" in it - which relates to the ability to properly transmit news in a timely manner.
I have just discovered your channel and it is great! Looking forward to seeing more of your videos.
Thanks for the kind words. To be honest, I don't know of any thorough modern treatment of the acta diurna (there are a few things on JSTOR, but nothing comprehensive). I took most of my information from a mix of stray mentions in old articles and classical encyclopedia articles. I kept a list of primary sources, however, so I'd be happy to point you to the textual reference for any given anecdote - just let me know!
I would love that :D It would mostly be the one of the daily Roman gazette. That I found quite fascinating
The editor did a great job on this video with all those "fake" news GG
That was a great video 😃I wonder if the Acta Diurna went through a lot of scribes? I assume "publishing" it ment writing it out by hand. 🤔
1:04 funniest image ever
You should do a video on islands under Roman control. Did they set up special ferry systems? Did they have to place military garrisons on them? We’re they popular vacation destinations?
I sometimes wonder why one would fight for.. say Octavian over Marc Antony.. or Octavian over Brutus and Cassius.. was it mostly a matter of self-interest? ..did the men who fought have an understanding of what was at stake?
"Hear ye, hear ye !"
@@janegardener1662 Salutations and thank you
@@optimusprinceps3526 Gratias
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shows you that the empire heart has a media empire which reaches everywhere to every mind
I actually use Morning Brew.
A mechanical question about paper. Papyrus? Onion skin? Especially or the Acta Diurna, what was used? How was the paper produced and in what quantity? Were there other media - clay tablets? Even wood? I recall reading of Roman legionnaires letters sent on wood.
Traditional wax on wood ?
Hahahah if nothing else seeing Dr. Ryan in a toga was priceless!
All I can imagine is those romans were hard at work most of the time, news and gossip probably helped, it must've felt like, and truly was; the center of the universe.
The greatest civilization ever built, up to that point.
How was the paper created? There wasn't a printing press, was it all hand written and spread that way? Did I miss this detail? This is my early morning routine with my wild dogs and coffee. Love the videos. Milwaukee born, if toldinstone is reading this, the abandoned buildings were semi bad there as well when I was a child such as with Detroit. I'd often wonder what the city looked like in it's heyday while climbing through old factories and sifting through archives of photos.
It continues to surprise me how modern the Roman society appears to be.
Are there copies in any library or something still readable nowadays?
4 o’clock and all’s well!
Cicero just doesn't sound right when pronounced properly.
Cicero should have watched his mouth, obviously....🌿😆🌿
I sometimes irresponsibly speculate if some of the Gospel writers were scribes copying the gazette out on the regular (for a patron or master).
A lot of the slave/master dynamic was equivalent to Brian and Peter Griffin- much smarter than the guy in charge.
Perhaps they'd use the extra papyri to write down their stuff because the patron/pater familia didn't really give too much of a shit otherwise.
Oh well, enough of my fan-fiction. Great job,Garrett 👏
Hey, if they couldn't read, how could they tell what the pages were being used for?
Thanks as always!
Most of the Epistles were of that type (there are a few exceptions where Paul explicitly says it's his handwriting).
How did they make copies?
When it comes to Roman literacy I think it's pretty key to remember that literacy back then was different to how it is now. While, yes, the amount of Romans who were literate in the modern sense was probably around 10% a significantly larger number of Romans could read and write to a lesser extent. Not at a level where they could read or write an entire book, but good enough that they could read and write graffiti, for example.
2:09 "I could'a been a contender!..."
Would the Acta Diurna be published on papyrus imported from Egypt?
Chisme aka chismis in Filipino is so much alive even today.
One of the best ad integrations I've ever seen. The sponsor should up the CPM compensation and filter more through this guy (especially if he remembers the hyperlink next go 'round, lol, that may bottleneck some referral traffic on this one for now). Well done, hope others up their games instead of saving it for an unrelated blow off at the end!
Hay quá
II for I togas, I'm dead
I’m curious, how many Roman Gazette’s have been find by archeologists? Also anyone know of a good historical book on Ancient Rome?
To think that kids used to pass notes in school 😅 what'd they do back then? Pass clay tablets?
If I had a time machine I would either start a burger joint or an insurance company
If I had a Time Machine, well you don't really want to know what I'd do 🌿😆🌿
I imagine your clientele would be the same as Lloyd's: merchants and shipping magnates, only...
Roman city dwellers seem to have loved fastfood. I bet a burger joint would make success.
@@optimusprinceps3526 I would prevent Hitler from ever existing...
...by helping Hadrian finish the deed.
Of couse, that still leaves the christian question. Maybe going back to the diadocci era would be better, everyone was a casualty back then.
Cigar factories in Cuba had readers. The workers pooled money to pay them. They didn’t just read the news, they read poetry and Spanish literature. I’m a retired elementary school teacher. A parent once told me that if there were nightclubs for children, I’d be the perfect emcee.
Without the printing press making the gazette must have been very time intensive, but then the Romans doing the making wouldn't have known any different
"We need more slaves!"
I love the local sponsors
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You should make a video about getting haircuts in Ancient Rome
What was the gazette physically written on?
Papyrus
A funny thing happened on the way to the forum
It's unknown whether or not Cicero invented that entire Cataline conspiracy . Considering Cicero's venal nature it's highly doubtful that there had even been a conspiracy until the "great" orator needed a scapegoat to puff up his consulship .