He stopped doing the bat credit card joke as well as anything involving screaming because of it not being funny anymore and he's gotten older and can't do it anymore.
Remember back when Critic and AVGN had a feud and for a brief moment people thought it was real and you actually had to go to each of their websites to watch the videos… the internet used to be cool
Wasn't around during those times, but MAN I've gotten into both of them this year, and their 'beef' seemed stupidly whimsical. Unlike the drama of NOWADAYS and with the GREEDY PIGS around ruining EVERYTHING 🙄
I feel like most of Doug Walker’s mistakes are born more from incompetence than malice. He’s a nice guy but he’s a teensy bit dumb...and at least being incompetent is better than being outwardly awful.... like some people.
Well, he did admit that he might have ADHD. Not that I'm saying people with ADHD are dumb, Hell, my brother has ADHD. However, my point is is that people with ADHD tend to get distracted a lot, and that's probably what happened with Doug Edit: After seeing a lot of negative comments, this is the last time I advocate for anyone
One would have to be incompetent to a degree beyond the level of being incapable of functioning on a basic human level to fuck up that badly. Especially when his victims claim otherwise.
@@Hawkatana You know people who were behind that document admitted to over exaggerating/lying to make doug look bad, plus they admitted to be using the height of the Metoo movement to cancel their boss The change the channel document is highly dubious at best and at worst they lied to protect someone who covered up the Jwario situation (One of the main contributors knew what he did so instead of talking about the other minors who were victims they talked about a 18 yearold and tried to paint her as a minor)
I think the lack of skits in recent videos is actually more down to the fact that within the past year, Doug suffered a pretty bad case of shingles, and he's never quite recovered from it.
And recently he got covid. Which they suspect is why and how he got shingles the first time. (He may have gotten it during the pandemic but was asymptomatic, explaining the shingles and his occasional mental cloudyness)
I am really sorry he hasnt been well but its so much better just letting him talk instead of Malcom and Tamarra keep interrupting with their unfunny skits 😅
@@s.g2344You know I was just thinking I actually really like the Critic when he’s just actually being a critic of films. I don’t hate all of his sketch stuff, I’m fine with him indulging in his “theater kid” stuff, and sometimes it hits, but I just a review video he did a couple days ago and not only was he actually getting cogent points across instead of saying stupid things every 10 seconds for laughs, I actually laughed more at his dead-pan/dry wit than most of his more scripted stuff. Aside from that, I honestly never got the hate he received. He never seemed to do anything all that awful imo and he’s mostly kept a consistent crew So he can’t be all that awful
I wanna point out that both The Nostalgia Critic and Angry Video Game Nerd made a cameo in an anime called “The Unlimited: Hyobu Kyosuke” (without their consent) in 2013. Ten whole years before Doug’s cameo in Smiling Friends. And yes, they both know about it.
I absolutely find it hilarious that, compared to most UA-camrs that have done INCREDIBLY awful things, Doug Walker is the one who constantly gets hated on. Ironically, most UA-camrs I know who shit on him turn out to be WORSE than Walker.
I think their are more UA-camrs out there worse than him who are more hated, for sure. I wouldn't say he's one of the worst, but he's still also not very good either.
I like that he actually reviews movies now, more than just insults them. He looks at the flaws in beloved movies and he finds the charm in bad movies. And even ones he doesn't like at all, he at least tries to explore WHY other people like them, something many YT critics don't do, they just review things negatively in an over the top way. Admittedly, Doug was kind of a big pioneer of that but he seems to have moved on from that mindset and I hope people start to appreciate him more for it.
I think a problem I've personally noticed in his attempts to deliver actual reviews is that a.) he still tends to present himself as a legit film critic people should listen to in quite a lot of areas, but also b.) sometimes he tends to miss crucial details in his movies that result in him making poor notes or (something I've noticed) fabricate certain things to get his personal point across.
@@samfilmkid in his video on the Aladdin remake, he used a screenshot of an online article headline saying people disliked his singing in the Aladdin movie implying that everyone did not like Will Smith’s singing in that movie. However, if you looked up the actual article, you’ll see that it was released months before the movie came out and was in response to a 30 second preview clip of a song and the actual criticisms being more towards the tempo of the song, not the actual singing. Maybe not complete fabrication, but it did feel like a lazy attempt to try and garner points to Doug’s beliefs.
That is what I like about modern Nostalgia Critic: that his takes, wheither good or bad ones, come from a place of genuineness; they're his honest opinions. He's not trying to get attention by hating on anything popular or sell out for clout like so many other YT critics/reviewers (I have no idea what Cinemasins is trying to accomplish anymore). That genuineness is just so refreshing in today's online critic culture.
"Authentic" that pretty much describes why I still like to watch the critic / Doug Walker. Even if he dislikes a movie I love or loves a movie I dislike, I know, it's genuine, you can tell what passion he has for the medium in general and that is something I can highly respect. And even more so for him learning from his past mistakes and improving. No denial or sappy apology video just because but actually realizing what was wrong, taking it to heard and trying to do things a better, something a lot of youtubers or other internet celebreties don't even bother with.
I feel like he's sincere but not authentic. I know its been years, but that Wall review tainted the man in my eyes. I'll go out of my way to defend him because he isn't mega-satan but he sure as hell not as intelligent or knowledgeable as he claims to be.
@@craig2196On the The Wall Review, off the top of my head: -It was poorly researched. ,Many, many videos point out when NC made cracks at whiny songs those songs were about Roger Water's feelings about WW2. There's a part where he says "WW2 reference" when Rogers sings "When the Tigers Broke Free" -He tried to make his review into this horrible half-review/half-parody. He parodies the song, but he doesn't understand the lyrics nor does he bring it back into the review. Like "Another Brick In The Wall" he boiled it down to "Roger Water's complains about school." then sings about it. One, what did that have to do with the movie? Two, he was trying to compare the horrors of Thacher schools in the 50's-60's to American schools in the 90's-2000's -Doug could not sing for the life of him, the instrumentals couldn't carry his vocals. -He misses many easy to grasp symbols portrayed in the movie. When Fennah's animation came up, i don't know if Doug wrote the lyrics or if Fennah did, but they act as though the monsters were half-cooked. Not realizing those monsters were representations of the characters in the movie. -His "In the Flesh" parody was right after Change the Channel. While I don't acknowledge Change the Channel's stupidity (The Walkers were incompetent in some areas but the former Channel Awesome members blow stuff out of proportion) , having it done so soon after makes it feel a bit icky. -Many fans of Doug went onto other videos and pests of themselves saying "THE REVIEW WAS A GIANT JOKE" those soon died out after Folding Idea's video came out. I consider authentic as in "He both true and can convey it to other people." Like the difference between outright saying "I love you" and being very coy with your words.
Doug has been battling an illness recently, which coincided with the remodeling of the studio, making skits hard to do, if not altogether absent, but rejoice! His newest video does have a skit in it! It's a wonderful review to boot.
One thing I've always respected about Doug is that he isn't afraid to poke fun at himself. A lot of the time when someone faces scrutiny or criticism torwards them or their work, they get defensive or hostile towards the people criticizing them, even when it's clear that said criticism isn't done with bad intentions (Linkara is a pretty good example on how childish someone can act when they face any type of criticism) But with Doug not only is he not afraid to admit when he's in the wrong about something, but he isn't afraid to make jokes at his expense, and it doesn't come across as spiteful or butt hurt at all. One of my favourite examples when in one of his reviews (can't remember which one) he shows a bunch of characters that are considered to be annoying, and one of them is himself
AVGN's hatred is totally unwarranted IMO. Sure, his content isn't as good as it used to be; but he's been doing this for 20 year at this point. By all accounts, James is a pretty good guy.
I always liked NC more than AVGN just because Doug was more devoted to his passions, even when he got criticized for his editing, effects and directing lower in comparisson to James Rolph, which I gotta admit, never got his popularity. Just watched some of his videos but never made an entire marathon like I do with Doug's videos. Maybe that's why when in recent viewing on AVGN, It shocked me looking at him go bald and tired, unlike NC that preventing his baldness, shaved completely and looks fine and still yells like always.
@@athiestjesus8133the recent AVGN hate extends more than just his content not being as good. He's stopped writing his show in favor of other people he's been working with who from what I've heard have done some pretty fishy things. I don't know the exact details, but it extends further than the quality drop I'm sure.
The answer is Linkara. When you have Linkara constantly screeching against someone then flipping out when made fun of while the man he loathes laughs at his own mockery and plays along it's easy to take any side against Linkara.
It sucks that Linkara is so insecure and aggro, because Winter of '83 is genuinely awesome and he's really honed his craft. It seems like him and Doug are just polar opposites in every way. Linkara makes great movies but can't take a fricking joke. Doug makes kinda crappy movies but he's a really good sport about it.
@@FabbrizioPlays He's always been an insecure little worm. And a bit of a bully to people he thinks he has station over. The Mr Metakour takedown of him was quite thorough. And his portion on the Change the Channel paper is filled with personal beefs and gripes that should have been left out. Really Linkara, he won't let you film in his studio? How is this anyone's problem? Given that was the first sign of problems within that group that led to their disintegration and abject failure, he really is the first one to look at when discussing Doug's re-emergence.
@@FabbrizioPlays It sucks because I actually find some of Linkara's videos pretty entertaining, like his reviews on The Sandman Comics. His problem, though, is that he can't just play along with the joke. You know what would be cool? If, for April Fool's Day or something, Linkara just decided to review The Lightbringer. He'll never do it, of course, but it would be a good moment of self deprication.
Its been said Doug just wants to do his thing. Like that video of him quitting his job to do UA-cam, he went all in so he had to survive. He surrounded himself with pretty bad people and by most intents wasn't a good boss back then. He is very self deprecating and doesnt seem to get angry at anyone poking fun. It's hard to stay mad at someone like that.
It feels so good seeing him come back with a better rep. I’m not even terribly sure what he did to even get such a bad one, but I grew up on the internet watching his reviews. It’s kind of insane how many of his reviews cultured me since I lived a pretty sheltered life and didn’t get the opportunity to watch many of the movies and shows he reviewed. Even though some of his reviews are cheesy, I’m glad he committed to making them and had fun with his skits. It was always something I looked forward to listening to while I drew.
His only mistake was wrongly assuming a bunch of drama hoars who tried to backstab him were actually his friends. He seems to have learned from the experience
From what I can tell, one of the reasons there's less skits in NC videos lately is because the studio they usually film in keeps falling apart, so it's just easier on the budget and the actors in the long run if they instead do less skits, and more couch reviews. That being said, one thing I've found has gotten much better regarding NC videos as a whole, especially after cancelling, and then bringing back the series, is that they dropped the gimmick of the critic hating every movie he watches, and instead has a healthy balance of watching movies that are enjoyable, as well as movies that aren't bad, but simply failed to wow audiences. Hearing opinions outside of "This movie stinks" has definitely helped keep the show more interesting, as you tend to get more genuine criticism rather than hating something for the lols. Not to mention the jokes they can tell about genuinely enjoyable parts of movies.
the wall review and channel awesome stuff was pretty bad, but compared to what other UA-camrs have done doug's biggest sin was being an incompetent boss and cringe critic. funny thing is that when lindsay ellis (nostalgia chick) was forced to bear the same scrutiny for what she said about Raya and The Last Dragon, she completely shut down and ran off the internet. the only reason she felt the need to do that is because she cultivated an audience of people who view mistakes as irredeemable and unforgivable, just like they hated doug, they came after her.
@@masonmancoffey1722 Two words: "Political Tribalism" ever since the 2016 election, the USA went through a downward spiral.of madness and over emphasized in political leanings. That affected creators the most as Lindsay showed herself to be a liberal/democrat leaning individual, and of course began using her influence and platform to talk politics, in a way that Garner an audience with a mentality of being unforgiving, because of the identity politics. This got her in so much unnecessary hot water, which at times she didn't deserve... However, the type of audience she cultivated, and you grow an audience like that, don't be surprised when they turn on you. This tends to happen if you get political or not, but usually it takes time, by getting political she basically speeds things up, and well it bit her in the behind.
This is why you never go political, specially now with all the "political tribalism" going on. However this was of her own making as she became just another deranged psycho like anyone on Twitter, and she attracted the same type of individuals... So, yeah she pretty much hung herself without even knowing.
There is some truth on what you're saying but also youtube fans didn't care that much it was (as always) crazy Twitter people who canceled her. But I still feel like she got a happy ending writing novels and making content for her patrons. She seems happy
I unironically enjoy Nostalgia Critic and respect the niche that he and his team have managed to carve out for themselves, and respect that even when they miss the mark, they still put obvious effort and heart into their skits, jokes, and commentary. They *do* feel like they're having fun and genuinely enjoy what they do, and I appreciate that! Also, while rarely profound or novel, most of Doug Walker's reviews and takes are reasonable and respectable, with the exception of his very weird interpretation of The Wall.
Am I the only one who enjoys the skits in his reviews? Like seriously what is SO bad about skits? Especially when his old 2007-2012 reviews also had skits? And NOBODY had a problem with those?!
Maybe it was the level of productions? Like how Smosh was funny as videos on UA-cam but bombed when they tried doing a movie. The difference in production levels left people wanting something more, and or it just wasn’t in the main audiance (who wanted to see riff on the movie and rant about it) That’s my closest explanation off the top of my hat.
@@patrickgowen324 Thing is he still does offer a riff on the movie. So it just comes off as looking for something to hate. Especially when other reviewers do skits in their videos and they don't get shit for it. But another thing I like about Doug's recent reviews? He also does NC reviews on movies he actually likes. He's not FORCING himself to hate a movie anymore.
@@supermariof0521 Tfw you mean "how"? Just look at them. They're cheaply-made, obnoxious, badly acted and think they're infinitely funnier than they actually are.
Nostalgia Critic has evolved a lot. It just hasn’t been a bunch of radical changes. He used to scream in front of a white wall cut between trailer shots from the movie he’s reviewing. Now he actually talks about everything with nuance and does the skits to have a comedic narrative in his reviews. The skits are not meant to be on par with a Tarantino movie. There’s a simple and silly charm to them. It’s just a way for him to do his own comedic writing. And while it may not be amazing quality, Doug at least has nailed his character. After all this time there is nobody that could do nostalgia critic like he does. I’ll always appreciate Doug.
Plus, everybody thinks the increase in skits after Demo Reel failed was an attempt as shoe-horning in the Demo Reel energy, but it was actually b/c they stopped using almost any clips from movies for a while due to being the target of unfair copyright claims, necessitating skits to replace the clips. I believe the channel striking got so bad that that is why they had to change YT channels from TGWTG to CA.
Doug Walker himself seems like a really genuine and honest guy, and I do really like his insight on films/media when he's being himself and not the NC character. I do think people were being a bit too rough on him a few years back during the controversy. And yeah, I totally agree that the Nostalgia Critic videos do feel like an endearing throwback to that early-mid 2010s style of youtube content. I really do appreciate that, considering the era of yt we're in now.
In recent years the Awesome Document has been looked at with heavy scrutiny due to how much conflicting information is within the document. There are some elements of truth within the document but its buried under piles of exaggerated details.
On top of that, it looks like Doug's biggest crime in the whole CTC controversy was just being incompetent and overambitious, something he's owned up to years after the fact. He didn't do anything deliberately malicious, and contrary to what a vocal chunk of the internet may believe, people can change and grow over time.
It also cause a major ripple effect into which another certain war started a year after. But at the end of the day, both Doug and a certain VA won. 🏆 Stayed tuned this October for the upcoming anime. :3
Doug’s content and the people they took in were products of their time and he’s admitted to it plus he already acknowledges the mistakes they’ve made and owned up to it to some degree. Like another youtuber said, Doug and his critic persona are essentially a person with a kind nature but arrogant work ethic that had to learn to be brought down a peg or two.
Reminds of how I really wonder if people kinda just hated Doug for no reasons, and the controversy (which is more about Channel Awesome than him) give them excuses to amplify it.
Yup. Never hated him and the fact Malcom Tamara and people stuck with him for a decade, where so happy to reunite after the pandemic says a lot more than tho3 critiquing Doug.
Man, I have to thank you for being one of the few unironic Nostalgia Critic fans to rise up. I just knew the second that "The Downfall of Doug Walker" video showed up that it was a BIT early to declare something like tha- AYO, WTF DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT THE GAME GRUMPS?
@colonel1003 how Arin treated Ding Dong and Julian is so beyond horrendous. I could still seperate art from artist and watch if the channel didn't feel like 2 personalities attempting to content farm instead of 2 friends on a couch playing games like it used to.
Recently, I was happy to see Doug (as the Critic) review a movie I've long wanted to see him check out since the days of ThatGuyWithTheGlasses. The Princess Bride Needless to say, his review was just as amusing as I'd hoped it would be
I'm such a huge fan of his for YEARS, My god his energy and grateful attitude about movies ironically helped me to shape my personality! I love his skits!! I wasn't aware of "NotSoAwesome" Document and the drama which just made the guy even cooler in my eyes. I wasn't aware of old internet too! And honestly I can really enjoy his old video nowadays because I can really feel the passion he puts in everything he's doing. Unlike now... UA-camrs just became passive, passionless, unentertaining, trying to talk faster cause noone has the concentration of attention. Doug Walker brought me back to life.
I still respect James Rolfe. I mean, dude had a kid in 2013 (and another in 2017, as I found out while looking it up for this comment). I think we all knew at the time, whether we wanted to or not, that that was the beginning of the end of his channel/relevancy.
The Channel Awesome people I still like are Brad Jones/Cinema Snob and Todd in the Shadows. I've gotten back into Doug's content simply for nostalgia for lack of a better word.
My one addendum to this video would be to remember to take the Change the Channel document with a grain of salt, if you do read it. 90% of the criticisms are petty complaints like "doug didn't get us coffee" or "doug didn't let me use his studio without insurance," and the small portion of legitimate criticism (the jewwario drama) is undermined by the fact that the people who wrote the document also tried covering it up and were complacent in it.
And Doug's reaction to that was to buy a fish mask and use it with his NC outfit for a costume party, again showing how he finds satires of himself funny
Doug Walker is genuinely a very insightful critic, I’m not even joking, his editorial videos are absolutely great and he really understands film in the sense that he knows story structure fairly well and his criticisms are very insightful when he’s not trying to be funny, let’s just say there’s a reason he’s popular to begin with, I think people are way to hard on him, sometimes it feels like that episode of SpongeBob where they mock him for acting “childish” when I reality, maybe sometimes there’s nothing wrong with just doing what makes you happy.
I feel like Tamara and Malcolm not being in them as much might be a personal choice of theirs, which if that's the case, I can't really blame them. They've been part of channel awesome for so long, I'm sure they want to move on.
Doug got so swept up in the fantasy of internet fame that he didn't notice that fantasy crumbling around him until it was too late. He holds some responsibility, but he isn't evil and hopefully he's been humbled.
Honestly he wasn't that swept up he gave up the nostalgia critic character before anyone was really clowning on him and before the "angry nerd review" bubble from 2010 popped. Honestly I think Doug was always pretty grounded just everyone around him wanted it to keep going forever
I know what you mean like the angry review nerd just feels so out of date the problem is it feels like it's been replaced with almost generic recaps or theory videos @@jollycrocodile6211
While Doug still does kinda unfunny sketches with Tamara, Malcolm, etc. that's not why I watch him. I watch him for his critiques on film and analyses. It's what I find the most interesting about him as a UA-camr. I get why he's hated and the change the channel and The Wall controversies REALLY hurt the quality of the channel but I can still find enjoyment in him.
The thing that got me back in the Nostalgia Critic outside of watching his old reviews was finding out through the Spongebob reference that Doug absolutely can take a joke. If someone makes fun of him, he laughs along right with them and doesn't get mad about it. Not many UA-camrs do that.
Am I watching another NC? I see his skits with Malcom and Tamara who also have their own shows. His skits are not as big as they use to be but I feel he’s grown as being more insightful instead of just a screaming angry nerd. Even the worst of movies he does acknowledge some good parts to learn from
I don’t hate Doug Walker as a critic or person in fact he was the main guy that inspired me to do videos in the first place And about the document I personally don’t believe a lot of stuff in the document to be true due to multiple people. I’ve seen point out some of the stuff that doesn’t seem right to me and due to some of the people being insane like seriously look up what happened to Brad Jones a.k.a. the cinema snob with some of the people from change the channel swatting Brad Jones’s house this was a good video man and I’m glad that I’m not the only one that still likes nostalgia critic
Considering he was only exposed for being an asshole I can forgive the dude. Everyone’s been a jerk some point or another. And he seems like a good cool dude at heart. Hard to hate someone who isn’t necessarily a bad guy
Now that you mention it, its absolutely CRAZY an old time Internet creator is being represented on two shows in modern TV and people getting the joke. One of them being SpongeBob of all shows. The only other person I can think of is PewDiePie on South Park. Thats a high honor that shouldn't be understated.
Genuinely Nostalgia critic reviews are some of the most entertaining content on UA-cam Like oney himself says it's either ironically entertaining of actually entertaining But I'd like to add on the most of the time you can't tell which is which because it's all so genuine
What's funny is that even back in the day, like 9 years ago or so, he reviewed his own creations and while I don't know the exact criticism, he did put his movies under a critical light. So, I think even back then, when it was arguably at a time he had his ego, he still was critical of himself. It was probably inevitable he'd get back down to Earth and really start actually showing the strength of his movie knowledge.
I’ve met Doug in real life at a convention a year or months prior to the huge controversy. The funny story is my friend and I were front of him and his brother Rob in the dealers den and both of us looked back and said “Hi”. Doug is such a pure hearted person I never had any bad impressions of him meeting in person. When the controversy happened not going to lie it did break my heart and it was kinda hard to tell my sincere interaction meeting this man after because my experience was so positive I never really told the story except for friends or else people would have to list off why Nostalgia Critic and or Channel Awesome was bad plus I was even sent a video listing off the controversies by someone trying to tell me why I shouldn’t support Channel Awesome but looking at what Doug is doing now, he is improving himself for the better. He is a very self contained man and I wish him the best life has to offer him.
I'm pretty sure Doug still doesn't have the Spine to stand up to his boss, Mike, who seems to have further hidden himself behind the camera, especially since he was never fired nor did he step down from the company. I'm almost certain Doug wants to just focus on NC now too, but has no way to let go of the rest of the CA crew without stirring more bad blood into the pot...
I’ve met Doug before, and he genuinely is just regular, nice guy. Has he made bad decisions when it came to Channel Awesome and bad content? Yes, but he just moves on with his life, unlike so many of former CA members who dogpiled him in the CA Document(which a lot has been confirmed to be fake, exaggerated, or he said/she said). It’s pathetic that as much as they hated Doug, they still desperately needed/leeched off him.
I've unironically loved the reviews for for years, it's Doug's passion and genuine love of the medium thats enjoyable for me. Whether its movies he's always loved or ones he's trying to find the silver lining in, it's always entertaining. Even when its movies he's tearing into(Blues Brothers 2000, Pixels, Wish, Etc), there's a feeling he's mad because of the movies they could have been, or how insultingly lazy they are. sketches are hit and miss, but sometimes they get a legitimate chuckle/laught out of me. As a fan for 8 years, i'll stand up and say yes, i unironically love Doug Walker's content and will continue to do so until the day he decides to hang it up
One thing missed (slightly) is that oneyplays, literally every single person they have on, actually loves nostalgia critic VERY much, and think it's all genuinely good content. How many times have the boys talked genuinely about the channel awesome movies? Many. So their mocking of doug is always from a really positive place, and from what I know, doug knows that. Linkara is just stupid
@@trolla5125 Corey delamingez has never seen a nostalgia critic episode, he has never talked about the wall review, and he hates suburban knights (true)
I recall watching reviews on the Linkara movie that was pieced together at the end of a series that looked at the Channel Awesome trilogy, and a point that was made (using Linkara, specifically, but others were mentioned as well) showed that Doug, while certainly at fault for a lot of things, wasn't intentional, despite what the document conveys otherwise. Apparently there was an instance where he bought everyone Subway because they missed out on dinner during the filming of To Boldly Flee.
At this point I think he knows that his era of UA-cam isn't as popular as it used to be but he's got his fill and just enjoys what he does. He's not seeking attention or changing his content to stay relevant but he does the necessary amount to keep the channel alive like any creator does. In Regards to The "Not So Awesome" Document it was definitely a hit to the channel but it was mostly out of Doug's Control from what I gathered, it's just he's the face of the company so he got the brunt of it.
Not a fan of nostalgia critic reviews, but I just know if Doug changed his content for more modern audiences, people would start treating it like modern day AVGN. Lose lose situation
Ngl I did go through a period where I hated Doug for the Not So Awesome Doc, but now that I’ve had time to sit and think things through, most of the stuff in that Doc was nothingburgers with the occasional serious allegation. I think MarzGurl, Linkara and the like just wanna throw Doug under the bus because they were never as likable as him and never will be. Only one who got close to succeeding him in notability was Lindsey, but she got cancelled by her own audience for a really stupid reason
Ya and where are they now? Hes so evil but Tamra, Malcom, etc stuck with him almost a decade. He allows their talent to shine. They were so happy to reunite after covid.. why would people want to be around an evil person for 10 years? Hit pieces happen because of jealousy. Simple as that and how many of those people are still creating? Almost 0. *shurg* Doug won because he was always passionate about his craft
I like both Doug and Scott the Woz, yet I haven’t really watched his content besides that one interview with Todd in the Shadows and a few of his reviews, yet I love all of Scott’s stuff even though I’m terrible at video games. I genuinely didn’t know people didn’t like him at first. Even though he gets WAY less hate than Doug.
I would disagree that his content hasn't evolved. His original reviews were notably shorter and covered less of the subject's story, and he went into far less detail of the subject's production, if any. It's clear that he's hardly playing a character anymore, and doesn't purposely exaggerate or nitpick for the sake of content; If he says something absurd, it's likely because something genuinely went over his head. Other than that, good video, I subscribed.
You know it's interesting how Doug Walker has banged to remain consistent with his content not just in terms of putting it out but just the content itself in general. These days it feels like doing an objective recap of a movie or show is what is in or you do a video easy on one particular movie or show which is usually a few hours. Like I have literally seen video essays on star wars episode 1 that is 12 hours long and Skyrim which is 20 hours long. Even starfield has an 8 hour long video lol.
Discovered Nostalgia Critic when I was a moody depressed 14 year old around 2011. Watching him really helped me cope with a lot of depression throughout my teenage years and always made me laugh. Probably the first UA-camr who I ever binge watched their videos.
its worth mentioning Adam Paloian is a supervising director on spongebob as well as appearing in a few oneyplays playthrough + the tenacious D music video. the bubble bass joke is less weird knowing that
I mean the website coming down was more so just because people mostly visited CA on UA-cam, right? If they never went through controversy, I'd assume that would still happen.
if his channel its still growing after a nontroversy and he still havent done a fake apology video yet, then he is more than ok also those talentless hacks...name a single one that is doing at least decent after going away...just one, and tell me why its angry joe
@@MagnusPrimeZ Lindsay Ellis is literally an author and her editorial videos are considered better then her Channel Awesome content, Todd in the Shadows has cranked out hit after hit video, Bennett the Sage has done an amazing turn-around on his content and himself, Brandon Tenold is still considered a goat for B-Movie and Kaiju movie reviews, and of course Guru Larry being the King of Trolls.
I feel like most UA-camrs who complain about Doug kinda don't know what their priorities are anymore, It feels like it takes them 4 hours just to call the dude dumb, I'm 100% okay with Someone not liking Doug because He's dumb, that's a good reason, but when I see somebody try to call him evil or a Tragedy or a Selfish Monster I tilt my head abit, He's Dumb but he's the normal type of dumb.
Always felt like sabotage and people are just very jealous Doug had a vision and now he’s in pop culture. He’s always been passionate. And he does more than just review - he actually creates,
@@Hawkatana bro i beg you to shut the fuck up. You’ve been commenting under every single comment being a bitch and complaining. I can smell you through the screen, go outside.
Doug isn't a bad guy, and I don't blame him for the mismanagement of CA or the scandals (which were mostly on Mike Michaud). That being said, he was a TERRIBLE director and writer. I'm glad to see that he's matured and is doing a bit better.
As someone who was a big fan of Linkara, it honestly made me think less of him when I say that clip of his stream where he talks down about Oney Plays. Chris has been really open about guys like Doug, Lewis, and James being people he unironically enjoys the content of. Conversely, Doug's reaction actually made me start respecting him a bit more when it comes to his Nostalgia Critic stuff. He knows it's a joke, and he's willing to laugh at himself as much as others.
Im still a fan of doug, I'm not defending any of what happened on the document but im not going to blindly regurgitate hate when you see doug is clearly a better person, and I'd say oneyplays helped in a weird way. Their jokes were really funny and it was a way for him to look at much of an ego he had. And he changed for the better.
As a long time watcher of NC I hate the amount of hate that the show started getting, but I also agree with the quality aspect of most people’s complaints. I think that if they got some better quality equipment the show could be revived
And in a time where critics are becoming more hated because of how their reviews are so different compared to the public, Doug, who seems to be the most hated critic ever lived, seems to be one of the more trustworthy one.
The Walkers are the most based people to walk this Earth, entertaining people for thousands and thousands of years, an ancient tribe they are. Why do you think they are called Walkers
I liked the last bit of the wall, with the Fennah collaboration. But I agree it was a bad review. That being said, credit to Doug for not taking it down or hiding it! He's taking the criticism in stride!
I always felt that Doug got too much of the heat from Change the Channel. Reading through the docs it was clear that most of the abuse was stemming from three dudes: Mike Michaud, Rob Walker, and Mike Ellis. Did Doug play a role by not sticking his neck out for people who trusted him? Yes, and that will always be a mark against him. But if anything I’d say he’s less of a meanie and more of a weenie. Ain’t a terrible person, just someone who could have done more but was afraid on stepping on people’s shoes. I’d say it’s time to welcome back ol’ Douggy.
Don't know why so many people ever hated on Doug in the first place. He's always been chill. Nostalgia Critic is a character. Its all for fun. Some people on the internet can take things so seriously and pat themselves on the ass for feeling so falsely superior.
bro this is a great video but man why isnt this getting more views the algorithm is too cruel with u😭 i hope u cant recover from this continue making good content
I agree that he has gotten better again more recently. I've enjoyed a lot the recent Nostalgia Critic reviews as well as Doug's videos out of character.
I'm pretty sure Doug still doesn't have the Spine to stand up to his boss, Mike, who seems to have further hidden himself behind the camera, especially since was never fired or stepped down from the company.
In this household, we:
-Believe in Santa Christ
-Remember it so you don’t have to
-Overreact to Bat Credit Cards
And ACHUCKA NORRISSSSSS!!!!!!!
He stopped doing the bat credit card joke as well as anything involving screaming because of it not being funny anymore and he's gotten older and can't do it anymore.
@@stitchlover4381I do miss the Doug Walker scream
@@williamaguilar5519 I don't. 😒
SANTA CHRIIIIIST SANTA CHRIIIIIST WE ALL LOVE SANTA CHRIST
Remember back when Critic and AVGN had a feud and for a brief moment people thought it was real and you actually had to go to each of their websites to watch the videos… the internet used to be cool
It wasn't cool. It was kinda cringe.
@@JadeEyes1 yeah but cool cringe
Wasn't around during those times, but MAN I've gotten into both of them this year, and their 'beef' seemed stupidly whimsical. Unlike the drama of NOWADAYS and with the GREEDY PIGS around ruining EVERYTHING 🙄
I feel like most of Doug Walker’s mistakes are born more from incompetence than malice. He’s a nice guy but he’s a teensy bit dumb...and at least being incompetent is better than being outwardly awful.... like some people.
Well, he did admit that he might have ADHD. Not that I'm saying people with ADHD are dumb, Hell, my brother has ADHD. However, my point is is that people with ADHD tend to get distracted a lot, and that's probably what happened with Doug
Edit: After seeing a lot of negative comments, this is the last time I advocate for anyone
@@matthewmoran5297 Fair enough. I am 99.9% sure, I have ADHD myself and I tend to make similar mistakes that Doug makes.
One would have to be incompetent to a degree beyond the level of being incapable of functioning on a basic human level to fuck up that badly. Especially when his victims claim otherwise.
@@Hawkatanabruh are you liking your own comments?
@@Hawkatana You know people who were behind that document admitted to over exaggerating/lying to make doug look bad, plus they admitted to be using the height of the Metoo movement to cancel their boss
The change the channel document is highly dubious at best and at worst they lied to protect someone who covered up the Jwario situation (One of the main contributors knew what he did so instead of talking about the other minors who were victims they talked about a 18 yearold and tried to paint her as a minor)
I think the lack of skits in recent videos is actually more down to the fact that within the past year, Doug suffered a pretty bad case of shingles, and he's never quite recovered from it.
That and their studio keeps literally falling apart on them
Yea so hes recovering from shingles and no studio
And recently he got covid. Which they suspect is why and how he got shingles the first time. (He may have gotten it during the pandemic but was asymptomatic, explaining the shingles and his occasional mental cloudyness)
I am really sorry he hasnt been well but its so much better just letting him talk instead of Malcom and Tamarra keep interrupting with their unfunny skits 😅
@@s.g2344You know I was just thinking I actually really like the Critic when he’s just actually being a critic of films.
I don’t hate all of his sketch stuff, I’m fine with him indulging in his “theater kid” stuff, and sometimes it hits, but I just a review video he did a couple days ago and not only was he actually getting cogent points across instead of saying stupid things every 10 seconds for laughs, I actually laughed more at his dead-pan/dry wit than most of his more scripted stuff.
Aside from that, I honestly never got the hate he received. He never seemed to do anything all that awful imo and he’s mostly kept a consistent crew So he can’t be all that awful
I wanna point out that both The Nostalgia Critic and Angry Video Game Nerd made a cameo in an anime called “The Unlimited: Hyobu Kyosuke” (without their consent) in 2013. Ten whole years before Doug’s cameo in Smiling Friends. And yes, they both know about it.
I’m pretty sure they tried to recreate the poses irl
I absolutely find it hilarious that, compared to most UA-camrs that have done INCREDIBLY awful things, Doug Walker is the one who constantly gets hated on. Ironically, most UA-camrs I know who shit on him turn out to be WORSE than Walker.
I think their are more UA-camrs out there worse than him who are more hated, for sure. I wouldn't say he's one of the worst, but he's still also not very good either.
Hot take, but it's political. Doug represents "unethical media journalism" while open bigots are "misunderstood patriots".
@@gallibon1319didn’t expect to see you here.
Anyone in particular?
@@louisduarte8763 Jontron off the top of my head
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I like that he actually reviews movies now, more than just insults them. He looks at the flaws in beloved movies and he finds the charm in bad movies. And even ones he doesn't like at all, he at least tries to explore WHY other people like them, something many YT critics don't do, they just review things negatively in an over the top way. Admittedly, Doug was kind of a big pioneer of that but he seems to have moved on from that mindset and I hope people start to appreciate him more for it.
I think a problem I've personally noticed in his attempts to deliver actual reviews is that a.) he still tends to present himself as a legit film critic people should listen to in quite a lot of areas, but also b.) sometimes he tends to miss crucial details in his movies that result in him making poor notes or (something I've noticed) fabricate certain things to get his personal point across.
@@ajerqureshi6411I agree, but he makes a video every week, which is pretty hard to do
@@ajerqureshi6411 can you give some examples of this?
@@samfilmkid in his video on the Aladdin remake, he used a screenshot of an online article headline saying people disliked his singing in the Aladdin movie implying that everyone did not like Will Smith’s singing in that movie. However, if you looked up the actual article, you’ll see that it was released months before the movie came out and was in response to a 30 second preview clip of a song and the actual criticisms being more towards the tempo of the song, not the actual singing.
Maybe not complete fabrication, but it did feel like a lazy attempt to try and garner points to Doug’s beliefs.
That is what I like about modern Nostalgia Critic: that his takes, wheither good or bad ones, come from a place of genuineness; they're his honest opinions. He's not trying to get attention by hating on anything popular or sell out for clout like so many other YT critics/reviewers (I have no idea what Cinemasins is trying to accomplish anymore). That genuineness is just so refreshing in today's online critic culture.
"Authentic" that pretty much describes why I still like to watch the critic / Doug Walker. Even if he dislikes a movie I love or loves a movie I dislike, I know, it's genuine, you can tell what passion he has for the medium in general and that is something I can highly respect. And even more so for him learning from his past mistakes and improving. No denial or sappy apology video just because but actually realizing what was wrong, taking it to heard and trying to do things a better, something a lot of youtubers or other internet celebreties don't even bother with.
I concur on both ends 😊
Doug Walker is the antithesis of the word "authentic".
I feel like he's sincere but not authentic. I know its been years, but that Wall review tainted the man in my eyes. I'll go out of my way to defend him because he isn't mega-satan but he sure as hell not as intelligent or knowledgeable as he claims to be.
@@howdoyoudo5949why do people hate the wall review so much?
Also sincere is essentially the same thing as authentic.
@@craig2196On the The Wall Review, off the top of my head:
-It was poorly researched. ,Many, many videos point out when NC made cracks at whiny songs those songs were about Roger Water's feelings about WW2. There's a part where he says "WW2 reference" when Rogers sings "When the Tigers Broke Free"
-He tried to make his review into this horrible half-review/half-parody. He parodies the song, but he doesn't understand the lyrics nor does he bring it back into the review. Like "Another Brick In The Wall" he boiled it down to "Roger Water's complains about school." then sings about it. One, what did that have to do with the movie? Two, he was trying to compare the horrors of Thacher schools in the 50's-60's to American schools in the 90's-2000's
-Doug could not sing for the life of him, the instrumentals couldn't carry his vocals.
-He misses many easy to grasp symbols portrayed in the movie. When Fennah's animation came up, i don't know if Doug wrote the lyrics or if Fennah did, but they act as though the monsters were half-cooked. Not realizing those monsters were representations of the characters in the movie.
-His "In the Flesh" parody was right after Change the Channel. While I don't acknowledge Change the Channel's stupidity (The Walkers were incompetent in some areas but the former Channel Awesome members blow stuff out of proportion) , having it done so soon after makes it feel a bit icky.
-Many fans of Doug went onto other videos and pests of themselves saying "THE REVIEW WAS A GIANT JOKE" those soon died out after Folding Idea's video came out.
I consider authentic as in "He both true and can convey it to other people." Like the difference between outright saying "I love you" and being very coy with your words.
Doug has been battling an illness recently, which coincided with the remodeling of the studio, making skits hard to do, if not altogether absent, but rejoice! His newest video does have a skit in it! It's a wonderful review to boot.
One thing I've always respected about Doug is that he isn't afraid to poke fun at himself. A lot of the time when someone faces scrutiny or criticism torwards them or their work, they get defensive or hostile towards the people criticizing them, even when it's clear that said criticism isn't done with bad intentions (Linkara is a pretty good example on how childish someone can act when they face any type of criticism)
But with Doug not only is he not afraid to admit when he's in the wrong about something, but he isn't afraid to make jokes at his expense, and it doesn't come across as spiteful or butt hurt at all. One of my favourite examples when in one of his reviews (can't remember which one) he shows a bunch of characters that are considered to be annoying, and one of them is himself
The dated, early UA-cam feel is what makes some of these creators special. I dont want corporate media, i want media from the people.
They could never make me hate mr critic
I strongly second that
Yo deejus, nice stuff man!
Me neither
Ironic how Nostalgia Critic went from being hated a few years ago but no longer these days, and now AVGN is being hated all the sudden.
It's kinda lame how bandwagony this site is.
AVGN's hatred is totally unwarranted IMO. Sure, his content isn't as good as it used to be; but he's been doing this for 20 year at this point. By all accounts, James is a pretty good guy.
I always liked NC more than AVGN just because Doug was more devoted to his passions, even when he got criticized for his editing, effects and directing lower in comparisson to James Rolph, which I gotta admit, never got his popularity. Just watched some of his videos but never made an entire marathon like I do with Doug's videos. Maybe that's why when in recent viewing on AVGN, It shocked me looking at him go bald and tired, unlike NC that preventing his baldness, shaved completely and looks fine and still yells like always.
It’s kinda weird. I feel like the content for avgn is still the same as it was years ago (the mobile game video wasn’t really that bad).
@@athiestjesus8133the recent AVGN hate extends more than just his content not being as good. He's stopped writing his show in favor of other people he's been working with who from what I've heard have done some pretty fishy things. I don't know the exact details, but it extends further than the quality drop I'm sure.
The answer is Linkara. When you have Linkara constantly screeching against someone then flipping out when made fun of while the man he loathes laughs at his own mockery and plays along it's easy to take any side against Linkara.
It sucks that Linkara is so insecure and aggro, because Winter of '83 is genuinely awesome and he's really honed his craft.
It seems like him and Doug are just polar opposites in every way. Linkara makes great movies but can't take a fricking joke. Doug makes kinda crappy movies but he's a really good sport about it.
@@FabbrizioPlays He's always been an insecure little worm. And a bit of a bully to people he thinks he has station over. The Mr Metakour takedown of him was quite thorough. And his portion on the Change the Channel paper is filled with personal beefs and gripes that should have been left out. Really Linkara, he won't let you film in his studio? How is this anyone's problem? Given that was the first sign of problems within that group that led to their disintegration and abject failure, he really is the first one to look at when discussing Doug's re-emergence.
Poor guy got beaten up and thrown out of a trump rally and he didn’t even get his jacket back
@@theghostoftupac2662 Yeah, I was a bit of a prat keeping it. (J/K)
@@FabbrizioPlays It sucks because I actually find some of Linkara's videos pretty entertaining, like his reviews on The Sandman Comics. His problem, though, is that he can't just play along with the joke.
You know what would be cool? If, for April Fool's Day or something, Linkara just decided to review The Lightbringer. He'll never do it, of course, but it would be a good moment of self deprication.
Its been said Doug just wants to do his thing. Like that video of him quitting his job to do UA-cam, he went all in so he had to survive. He surrounded himself with pretty bad people and by most intents wasn't a good boss back then. He is very self deprecating and doesnt seem to get angry at anyone poking fun. It's hard to stay mad at someone like that.
It feels so good seeing him come back with a better rep. I’m not even terribly sure what he did to even get such a bad one, but I grew up on the internet watching his reviews. It’s kind of insane how many of his reviews cultured me since I lived a pretty sheltered life and didn’t get the opportunity to watch many of the movies and shows he reviewed. Even though some of his reviews are cheesy, I’m glad he committed to making them and had fun with his skits. It was always something I looked forward to listening to while I drew.
His only mistake was wrongly assuming a bunch of drama hoars who tried to backstab him were actually his friends. He seems to have learned from the experience
From what I can tell, one of the reasons there's less skits in NC videos lately is because the studio they usually film in keeps falling apart, so it's just easier on the budget and the actors in the long run if they instead do less skits, and more couch reviews.
That being said, one thing I've found has gotten much better regarding NC videos as a whole, especially after cancelling, and then bringing back the series, is that they dropped the gimmick of the critic hating every movie he watches, and instead has a healthy balance of watching movies that are enjoyable, as well as movies that aren't bad, but simply failed to wow audiences. Hearing opinions outside of "This movie stinks" has definitely helped keep the show more interesting, as you tend to get more genuine criticism rather than hating something for the lols. Not to mention the jokes they can tell about genuinely enjoyable parts of movies.
the wall review and channel awesome stuff was pretty bad, but compared to what other UA-camrs have done doug's biggest sin was being an incompetent boss and cringe critic. funny thing is that when lindsay ellis (nostalgia chick) was forced to bear the same scrutiny for what she said about Raya and The Last Dragon, she completely shut down and ran off the internet. the only reason she felt the need to do that is because she cultivated an audience of people who view mistakes as irredeemable and unforgivable, just like they hated doug, they came after her.
Thats just messed up man why are people like this
@@masonmancoffey1722
Two words: "Political Tribalism" ever since the 2016 election, the USA went through a downward spiral.of madness and over emphasized in political leanings.
That affected creators the most as Lindsay showed herself to be a liberal/democrat leaning individual, and of course began using her influence and platform to talk politics, in a way that Garner an audience with a mentality of being unforgiving, because of the identity politics. This got her in so much unnecessary hot water, which at times she didn't deserve... However, the type of audience she cultivated, and you grow an audience like that, don't be surprised when they turn on you.
This tends to happen if you get political or not, but usually it takes time, by getting political she basically speeds things up, and well it bit her in the behind.
This is why you never go political, specially now with all the "political tribalism" going on. However this was of her own making as she became just another deranged psycho like anyone on Twitter, and she attracted the same type of individuals... So, yeah she pretty much hung herself without even knowing.
She went off to review communism
There is some truth on what you're saying but also youtube fans didn't care that much it was (as always) crazy Twitter people who canceled her. But I still feel like she got a happy ending writing novels and making content for her patrons. She seems happy
I unironically enjoy Nostalgia Critic and respect the niche that he and his team have managed to carve out for themselves, and respect that even when they miss the mark, they still put obvious effort and heart into their skits, jokes, and commentary. They *do* feel like they're having fun and genuinely enjoy what they do, and I appreciate that! Also, while rarely profound or novel, most of Doug Walker's reviews and takes are reasonable and respectable, with the exception of his very weird interpretation of The Wall.
Am I the only one who enjoys the skits in his reviews? Like seriously what is SO bad about skits? Especially when his old 2007-2012 reviews also had skits? And NOBODY had a problem with those?!
Maybe it was the level of productions?
Like how Smosh was funny as videos on UA-cam but bombed when they tried doing a movie. The difference in production levels left people wanting something more, and or it just wasn’t in the main audiance (who wanted to see riff on the movie and rant about it)
That’s my closest explanation off the top of my hat.
@@patrickgowen324 Thing is he still does offer a riff on the movie. So it just comes off as looking for something to hate. Especially when other reviewers do skits in their videos and they don't get shit for it. But another thing I like about Doug's recent reviews? He also does NC reviews on movies he actually likes. He's not FORCING himself to hate a movie anymore.
They're the epitome of cringe.
@@Hawkatana How exactly?
@@supermariof0521 Tfw you mean "how"? Just look at them. They're cheaply-made, obnoxious, badly acted and think they're infinitely funnier than they actually are.
Nostalgia Critic has evolved a lot. It just hasn’t been a bunch of radical changes. He used to scream in front of a white wall cut between trailer shots from the movie he’s reviewing. Now he actually talks about everything with nuance and does the skits to have a comedic narrative in his reviews. The skits are not meant to be on par with a Tarantino movie. There’s a simple and silly charm to them. It’s just a way for him to do his own comedic writing. And while it may not be amazing quality, Doug at least has nailed his character. After all this time there is nobody that could do nostalgia critic like he does. I’ll always appreciate Doug.
Plus, everybody thinks the increase in skits after Demo Reel failed was an attempt as shoe-horning in the Demo Reel energy, but it was actually b/c they stopped using almost any clips from movies for a while due to being the target of unfair copyright claims, necessitating skits to replace the clips. I believe the channel striking got so bad that that is why they had to change YT channels from TGWTG to CA.
Doug Walker himself seems like a really genuine and honest guy, and I do really like his insight on films/media when he's being himself and not the NC character. I do think people were being a bit too rough on him a few years back during the controversy.
And yeah, I totally agree that the Nostalgia Critic videos do feel like an endearing throwback to that early-mid 2010s style of youtube content. I really do appreciate that, considering the era of yt we're in now.
In recent years the Awesome Document has been looked at with heavy scrutiny due to how much conflicting information is within the document. There are some elements of truth within the document but its buried under piles of exaggerated details.
On top of that, it looks like Doug's biggest crime in the whole CTC controversy was just being incompetent and overambitious, something he's owned up to years after the fact. He didn't do anything deliberately malicious, and contrary to what a vocal chunk of the internet may believe, people can change and grow over time.
It really starts to get messy during the whole Jew Wario thing.
It also cause a major ripple effect into which another certain war started a year after.
But at the end of the day, both Doug and a certain VA won. 🏆
Stayed tuned this October for the upcoming anime. :3
@@Seras99at the end of the day the channel awesome document accomplished nothing, and everyone has forgot it even happened
Doug’s content and the people they took in were products of their time and he’s admitted to it plus he already acknowledges the mistakes they’ve made and owned up to it to some degree. Like another youtuber said, Doug and his critic persona are essentially a person with a kind nature but arrogant work ethic that had to learn to be brought down a peg or two.
They really treated this man like Amy Schumacher. At least this man is honest.
Difference here is, Amy Schumer isn’t good, Doug is.
@@Mr.Napalm Exactly 💯
"Honest" men don't foster a whole environment of abuse for years upon years.
@@Hawkatana good point
How do you mix up Schumer with Schumacher?
This makes me imagine a cross between Amy and Joel.
Reminds of how I really wonder if people kinda just hated Doug for no reasons, and the controversy (which is more about Channel Awesome than him) give them excuses to amplify it.
Yup. Never hated him and the fact Malcom Tamara and people stuck with him for a decade, where so happy to reunite after the pandemic says a lot more than tho3 critiquing Doug.
@@npcimknot958 Yeah. Some clearly like him, so he shouldn’t be that terrible or anything.
Man, I have to thank you for being one of the few unironic Nostalgia Critic fans to rise up. I just knew the second that "The Downfall of Doug Walker" video showed up that it was a BIT early to declare something like tha-
AYO, WTF DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT THE GAME GRUMPS?
Fart jokes and incompetence will never not be funny, the way Arin plays the bit at being bad at video games despite being The Game Boy is masterful.
Dream Daddy situation
@colonel1003 how Arin treated Ding Dong and Julian is so beyond horrendous. I could still seperate art from artist and watch if the channel didn't feel like 2 personalities attempting to content farm instead of 2 friends on a couch playing games like it used to.
Recently, I was happy to see Doug (as the Critic) review a movie I've long wanted to see him check out since the days of ThatGuyWithTheGlasses.
The Princess Bride
Needless to say, his review was just as amusing as I'd hoped it would be
I'm able to watch his older videos and still enjoy them, for one reason or another. Because, well, it was that older era.
I'm such a huge fan of his for YEARS, My god his energy and grateful attitude about movies ironically helped me to shape my personality! I love his skits!! I wasn't aware of "NotSoAwesome" Document and the drama which just made the guy even cooler in my eyes. I wasn't aware of old internet too! And honestly I can really enjoy his old video nowadays because I can really feel the passion he puts in everything he's doing. Unlike now... UA-camrs just became passive, passionless, unentertaining, trying to talk faster cause noone has the concentration of attention. Doug Walker brought me back to life.
Watch his review on the Boy With The Striped Pajamas or his Ask That Guy With the Glasses series, they are gold
@@colonel1003 sure I will!!!!!
I still respect James Rolfe. I mean, dude had a kid in 2013 (and another in 2017, as I found out while looking it up for this comment). I think we all knew at the time, whether we wanted to or not, that that was the beginning of the end of his channel/relevancy.
Muh kids
Audiences hate change. They should grow up, and stop being demanding babies.
@@cyxceven545 “no time to grow up, I refuse.” - Bimmy
The Channel Awesome people I still like are Brad Jones/Cinema Snob and Todd in the Shadows. I've gotten back into Doug's content simply for nostalgia for lack of a better word.
My one addendum to this video would be to remember to take the Change the Channel document with a grain of salt, if you do read it. 90% of the criticisms are petty complaints like "doug didn't get us coffee" or "doug didn't let me use his studio without insurance," and the small portion of legitimate criticism (the jewwario drama) is undermined by the fact that the people who wrote the document also tried covering it up and were complacent in it.
Also I hear the reason why Doug didn't speak up was because the victim themselves told him to keep quiet to not stir drama or something
I definitely think them dressing up bubble bass as Nostalgia Critic was Adam Paloian’s doing, who is friends with Zach.
And Doug's reaction to that was to buy a fish mask and use it with his NC outfit for a costume party, again showing how he finds satires of himself funny
Doug Walker is genuinely a very insightful critic, I’m not even joking, his editorial videos are absolutely great and he really understands film in the sense that he knows story structure fairly well and his criticisms are very insightful when he’s not trying to be funny, let’s just say there’s a reason he’s popular to begin with, I think people are way to hard on him, sometimes it feels like that episode of SpongeBob where they mock him for acting “childish” when I reality, maybe sometimes there’s nothing wrong with just doing what makes you happy.
I love how His response to his Lampooning on Spongebob was to call up AVGN and tell him "Spongebob doesn't Like You."
I feel like Tamara and Malcolm not being in them as much might be a personal choice of theirs, which if that's the case, I can't really blame them. They've been part of channel awesome for so long, I'm sure they want to move on.
Doug got so swept up in the fantasy of internet fame that he didn't notice that fantasy crumbling around him until it was too late. He holds some responsibility, but he isn't evil and hopefully he's been humbled.
Honestly he wasn't that swept up he gave up the nostalgia critic character before anyone was really clowning on him and before the "angry nerd review" bubble from 2010 popped. Honestly I think Doug was always pretty grounded just everyone around him wanted it to keep going forever
I know what you mean like the angry review nerd just feels so out of date the problem is it feels like it's been replaced with almost generic recaps or theory videos @@jollycrocodile6211
@@jollycrocodile6211Heck, he tried to call it quits. The fandom wouldn’t let him.
While Doug still does kinda unfunny sketches with Tamara, Malcolm, etc. that's not why I watch him. I watch him for his critiques on film and analyses. It's what I find the most interesting about him as a UA-camr.
I get why he's hated and the change the channel and The Wall controversies REALLY hurt the quality of the channel but I can still find enjoyment in him.
I’ve been watching Doug Walker’s content for almost his entire career. Ironically, I find comfort in the nostalgia of the Nostalgia Critic.
The thing that got me back in the Nostalgia Critic outside of watching his old reviews was finding out through the Spongebob reference that Doug absolutely can take a joke. If someone makes fun of him, he laughs along right with them and doesn't get mad about it. Not many UA-camrs do that.
The man who fails in earnest will always have a better reputation than the man who fails from greed or malice.
Am I watching another NC? I see his skits with Malcom and Tamara who also have their own shows. His skits are not as big as they use to be but I feel he’s grown as being more insightful instead of just a screaming angry nerd. Even the worst of movies he does acknowledge some good parts to learn from
I don’t hate Doug Walker as a critic or person in fact he was the main guy that inspired me to do videos in the first place And about the document I personally don’t believe a lot of stuff in the document to be true due to multiple people. I’ve seen point out some of the stuff that doesn’t seem right to me and due to some of the people being insane like seriously look up what happened to Brad Jones a.k.a. the cinema snob with some of the people from change the channel swatting Brad Jones’s house this was a good video man and I’m glad that I’m not the only one that still likes nostalgia critic
Considering he was only exposed for being an asshole I can forgive the dude. Everyone’s been a jerk some point or another. And he seems like a good cool dude at heart. Hard to hate someone who isn’t necessarily a bad guy
Now that you mention it, its absolutely CRAZY an old time Internet creator is being represented on two shows in modern TV and people getting the joke. One of them being SpongeBob of all shows. The only other person I can think of is PewDiePie on South Park. Thats a high honor that shouldn't be understated.
Genuinely
Nostalgia critic reviews are some of the most entertaining content on UA-cam
Like oney himself says it's either ironically entertaining of actually entertaining
But I'd like to add on the most of the time you can't tell which is which because it's all so genuine
Have we reached the point where we've become nostalgic...for the Nostalgia Critic? Does that even count as irony?
What's funny is that even back in the day, like 9 years ago or so, he reviewed his own creations and while I don't know the exact criticism, he did put his movies under a critical light. So, I think even back then, when it was arguably at a time he had his ego, he still was critical of himself. It was probably inevitable he'd get back down to Earth and really start actually showing the strength of his movie knowledge.
I’ve met Doug in real life at a convention a year or months prior to the huge controversy. The funny story is my friend and I were front of him and his brother Rob in the dealers den and both of us looked back and said “Hi”. Doug is such a pure hearted person I never had any bad impressions of him meeting in person. When the controversy happened not going to lie it did break my heart and it was kinda hard to tell my sincere interaction meeting this man after because my experience was so positive I never really told the story except for friends or else people would have to list off why Nostalgia Critic and or Channel Awesome was bad plus I was even sent a video listing off the controversies by someone trying to tell me why I shouldn’t support Channel Awesome but looking at what Doug is doing now, he is improving himself for the better. He is a very self contained man and I wish him the best life has to offer him.
I'm pretty sure Doug still doesn't have the Spine to stand up to his boss, Mike, who seems to have further hidden himself behind the camera, especially since he was never fired nor did he step down from the company.
I'm almost certain Doug wants to just focus on NC now too, but has no way to let go of the rest of the CA crew without stirring more bad blood into the pot...
I’ve met Doug before, and he genuinely is just regular, nice guy. Has he made bad decisions when it came to Channel Awesome and bad content? Yes, but he just moves on with his life, unlike so many of former CA members who dogpiled him in the CA Document(which a lot has been confirmed to be fake, exaggerated, or he said/she said). It’s pathetic that as much as they hated Doug, they still desperately needed/leeched off him.
Yup. And where r they now? No where. Bad business decisions from people that never done this before is not always malicious
At best, Doug is stupid, greedy and overestimates himself.
That's giving him way more credit than he deserves.
I've unironically loved the reviews for for years, it's Doug's passion and genuine love of the medium thats enjoyable for me. Whether its movies he's always loved or ones he's trying to find the silver lining in, it's always entertaining. Even when its movies he's tearing into(Blues Brothers 2000, Pixels, Wish, Etc), there's a feeling he's mad because of the movies they could have been, or how insultingly lazy they are. sketches are hit and miss, but sometimes they get a legitimate chuckle/laught out of me. As a fan for 8 years, i'll stand up and say yes, i unironically love Doug Walker's content and will continue to do so until the day he decides to hang it up
One thing missed (slightly) is that oneyplays, literally every single person they have on, actually loves nostalgia critic VERY much, and think it's all genuinely good content. How many times have the boys talked genuinely about the channel awesome movies? Many. So their mocking of doug is always from a really positive place, and from what I know, doug knows that. Linkara is just stupid
Not Jeff
@@trolla5125 Jeff and Niall are the biggest fans actually
@@4Usuality thats true, jeff claps his feet together like a baby whenever he watches nostalgia critic
@@trolla5125 Corey delamingez has never seen a nostalgia critic episode, he has never talked about the wall review, and he hates suburban knights (true)
I recall watching reviews on the Linkara movie that was pieced together at the end of a series that looked at the Channel Awesome trilogy, and a point that was made (using Linkara, specifically, but others were mentioned as well) showed that Doug, while certainly at fault for a lot of things, wasn't intentional, despite what the document conveys otherwise. Apparently there was an instance where he bought everyone Subway because they missed out on dinner during the filming of To Boldly Flee.
At this point I think he knows that his era of UA-cam isn't as popular as it used to be but he's got his fill and just enjoys what he does. He's not seeking attention or changing his content to stay relevant but he does the necessary amount to keep the channel alive like any creator does.
In Regards to The "Not So Awesome" Document it was definitely a hit to the channel but it was mostly out of Doug's Control from what I gathered, it's just he's the face of the company so he got the brunt of it.
I gotta admit... I got a nostalgia for Nostalgia Critic skits
Considering that people like Lily Orchard, Boogie2988 and EDP445 exist maybe dog walker isn’t so bad after all.
Not a fan of nostalgia critic reviews, but I just know if Doug changed his content for more modern audiences, people would start treating it like modern day AVGN. Lose lose situation
The amount of genuine, near orgasmic levels of vindication this video has given me is palpable.
Ngl I did go through a period where I hated Doug for the Not So Awesome Doc, but now that I’ve had time to sit and think things through, most of the stuff in that Doc was nothingburgers with the occasional serious allegation. I think MarzGurl, Linkara and the like just wanna throw Doug under the bus because they were never as likable as him and never will be. Only one who got close to succeeding him in notability was Lindsey, but she got cancelled by her own audience for a really stupid reason
Ya and where are they now? Hes so evil but Tamra, Malcom, etc stuck with him almost a decade. He allows their talent to shine. They were so happy to reunite after covid.. why would people want to be around an evil person for 10 years?
Hit pieces happen because of jealousy. Simple as that and how many of those people are still creating? Almost 0. *shurg* Doug won because he was always passionate about his craft
I only hated The Wall Review because it was too boring, I knew nothing about The Wall so I didn't have as big a reaction like everyone else
I like both Doug and Scott the Woz, yet I haven’t really watched his content besides that one interview with Todd in the Shadows and a few of his reviews, yet I love all of Scott’s stuff even though I’m terrible at video games. I genuinely didn’t know people didn’t like him at first. Even though he gets WAY less hate than Doug.
Honestly Nostalgia Critic and Doug Walker are much better than SML.
Sml is gone now
2 hydrogen bombs vs a coughing baby
Are you a retard?
I would disagree that his content hasn't evolved. His original reviews were notably shorter and covered less of the subject's story, and he went into far less detail of the subject's production, if any. It's clear that he's hardly playing a character anymore, and doesn't purposely exaggerate or nitpick for the sake of content; If he says something absurd, it's likely because something genuinely went over his head. Other than that, good video, I subscribed.
You know it's interesting how Doug Walker has banged to remain consistent with his content not just in terms of putting it out but just the content itself in general. These days it feels like doing an objective recap of a movie or show is what is in or you do a video easy on one particular movie or show which is usually a few hours. Like I have literally seen video essays on star wars episode 1 that is 12 hours long and Skyrim which is 20 hours long. Even starfield has an 8 hour long video lol.
Discovered Nostalgia Critic when I was a moody depressed 14 year old around 2011. Watching him really helped me cope with a lot of depression throughout my teenage years and always made me laugh. Probably the first UA-camr who I ever binge watched their videos.
its worth mentioning Adam Paloian is a supervising director on spongebob as well as appearing in a few oneyplays playthrough + the tenacious D music video. the bubble bass joke is less weird knowing that
Malcolm is still around. He did the video on the hidden genius behind Spider-Man 3
I don't think Doug has quite fully recovered. He's doing other things besides just reviewing movies and the Channel Awesome site is now gone.
I mean the website coming down was more so just because people mostly visited CA on UA-cam, right? If they never went through controversy, I'd assume that would still happen.
if his channel its still growing after a nontroversy and he still havent done a fake apology video yet, then he is more than ok
also those talentless hacks...name a single one that is doing at least decent after going away...just one, and tell me why its angry joe
@@MagnusPrimeZ Lindsay Ellis is literally an author and her editorial videos are considered better then her Channel Awesome content, Todd in the Shadows has cranked out hit after hit video, Bennett the Sage has done an amazing turn-around on his content and himself, Brandon Tenold is still considered a goat for B-Movie and Kaiju movie reviews, and of course Guru Larry being the King of Trolls.
Within the whole Change the Channel document. All they had on Doug was him having a big ego and him asking his literal actor employees to act.
I feel like most UA-camrs who complain about Doug kinda don't know what their priorities are anymore, It feels like it takes them 4 hours just to call the dude dumb, I'm 100% okay with Someone not liking Doug because He's dumb, that's a good reason, but when I see somebody try to call him evil or a Tragedy or a Selfish Monster I tilt my head abit, He's Dumb but he's the normal type of dumb.
I swear, the ads that Doug does are better than the skits
A lot of the document was later proven False
Always felt like sabotage and people are just very jealous Doug had a vision and now he’s in pop culture.
He’s always been passionate. And he does more than just review - he actually creates,
i wont stand for Doug slander.... that man is a national treasure
"Slander" implies what's said to be false, which it categorically isn't.
@@HawkatanaStop spamming
@@Superstar5_ Stop glazing an abuser.
@@Hawkatanastop glazing a band of losers who turned out to be infinitely worse than Doig
@@Hawkatana bro i beg you to shut the fuck up. You’ve been commenting under every single comment being a bitch and complaining. I can smell you through the screen, go outside.
May favorite part of the document is when linkara complained that Doug would not let him use HIS studio for linkara’s film.
Doug isn't a bad guy, and I don't blame him for the mismanagement of CA or the scandals (which were mostly on Mike Michaud). That being said, he was a TERRIBLE director and writer. I'm glad to see that he's matured and is doing a bit better.
Mike Michaud needs to be arrested and locked up in jail for his terrible crime
As someone who was a big fan of Linkara, it honestly made me think less of him when I say that clip of his stream where he talks down about Oney Plays. Chris has been really open about guys like Doug, Lewis, and James being people he unironically enjoys the content of.
Conversely, Doug's reaction actually made me start respecting him a bit more when it comes to his Nostalgia Critic stuff. He knows it's a joke, and he's willing to laugh at himself as much as others.
Im still a fan of doug, I'm not defending any of what happened on the document but im not going to blindly regurgitate hate when you see doug is clearly a better person, and I'd say oneyplays helped in a weird way. Their jokes were really funny and it was a way for him to look at much of an ego he had. And he changed for the better.
He kinda looks like Walter Blanco from Metastasis
As a long time watcher of NC I hate the amount of hate that the show started getting, but I also agree with the quality aspect of most people’s complaints. I think that if they got some better quality equipment the show could be revived
I maintain that Doug Walker is a good critic... when he actually has substantial opinions on what he reviews.
It started to feel like he was coming back around. Glad I’m not the only one who thought so.
I mean, Malcom and Tamara pop up from time to time but aside from that, nothing else.
And in a time where critics are becoming more hated because of how their reviews are so different compared to the public, Doug, who seems to be the most hated critic ever lived, seems to be one of the more trustworthy one.
The Walkers are the most based people to walk this Earth, entertaining people for thousands and thousands of years, an ancient tribe they are. Why do you think they are called Walkers
I liked the last bit of the wall, with the Fennah collaboration. But I agree it was a bad review.
That being said, credit to Doug for not taking it down or hiding it! He's taking the criticism in stride!
3:02 is that corey taylor
Yes.
I enjoy the NC video, I don't watch him a lot but sometimes I go back to his old videos and still enjoy them and his new videos are amazing too.
I always felt that Doug got too much of the heat from Change the Channel. Reading through the docs it was clear that most of the abuse was stemming from three dudes: Mike Michaud, Rob Walker, and Mike Ellis. Did Doug play a role by not sticking his neck out for people who trusted him? Yes, and that will always be a mark against him.
But if anything I’d say he’s less of a meanie and more of a weenie. Ain’t a terrible person, just someone who could have done more but was afraid on stepping on people’s shoes.
I’d say it’s time to welcome back ol’ Douggy.
People like Mike Michaud, Rob Walker, and Mike Ellis needs to be arrested and locked up in jail for all the horrible crimes they committed
Didn’t it come out that a lot of the contents of that document were exaggerated or fabricated?
A BAT CREDIT CARD?!
Don't know why so many people ever hated on Doug in the first place. He's always been chill.
Nostalgia Critic is a character.
Its all for fun.
Some people on the internet can take things so seriously and pat themselves on the ass for feeling so falsely superior.
bro this is a great video but
man why isnt this getting more views
the algorithm is too cruel with u😭
i hope u cant recover from this
continue making good content
I agree that he has gotten better again more recently. I've enjoyed a lot the recent Nostalgia Critic reviews as well as Doug's videos out of character.
he is surrounding all of our surroundings
Doug, like James, showed some people are immune to being cancelled. He is still being awesome.
I'm pretty sure Doug still doesn't have the Spine to stand up to his boss, Mike, who seems to have further hidden himself behind the camera, especially since was never fired or stepped down from the company.
Hey look that review of "The Wall" was a silly Mess but it gave Fennah a lot of attention because his creatures are fucking awesome.