it reduces confusion on slower parts. when you play DDR, you develop a threshold on how many arrows you can take at once before you brain starts to confuse itself. the less arrows on the screen, the better your brain can process and therefore have ur feet respond accordingly.
ITG is for experienced players that wants to prove their stamina (actually is like an StepMania, because the only thing that have ITG alive are USB customs). But most people prefer a DDR style interphace and music. and you can see that at all fan-sites around the Internet. Honestly I like both. and they're completly different in all the things. Konami shut ITG down, because they used their old arcades machines to put ITG software without Konami's Permission.
Non, je savais pas à propos de ce débat Konami/Roxxor mais bon l'essentiel est le résultat. Je joue les 2 tout simplement. J'adore l'esprit technique de DDR mais ITG permet d'entraîner mon endurance pour que je puisse tenir plus longtemps les musiques. Mais cela veut pas dire que je réussis mieux les musiques (J'arrive pas encore à avoir un A à Fascination Maxx Expert)
If this is the fastest tune, what is the slowest tune? Like the tune that has the longest time between steps on the easiest possible setting? Probably some cheesy slow pop song like My Heart Will Go On, with one step every 5 years.
+Matthew Collinson The song is called 888. For most of the song, it goes at 222 bpm and holds streams of 444 bpm. But towards the very end, the song jumps to 444 bpm with an epic 888 bpm streams!
Dgraham13 I never actually count the individual steps as tempo. I don't see them as "888 bpm", but "222 bpm" with "4 steps per beat", i.e. 888 steps per minute (or 14.8 steps per second)
ITG really raised the bar for dance simulators. players got accustomed to the difficult charts and preferred them over the simple DDR ones. ITG charts were hard, but they made sense. and they did interesting things with them (like 32nd note streams in Determinator & Hardcore of the North, jacks in Tell & Pandemonium, and generally long suicide runs) Konami knew they had to step up and make harder charts, but they ended up making senseless stupid charts. such a joke now.
your rite. itg is the way to go. i just wish there more dedicabs to play on. problem with itg is that its practically confined to the territory of the US (and perhaps canada). here in Europe we have 10 dedicabs at most !!!
he did it earlier in the vid and it took away the bottom portion of the screen, and he pressed it again at 1:58 to return it to normal. idk why but i know some players like to make it look like it's going faster, it helps i guess? maybe thats what he was doin
Oui, mais sais-tu pourquoi on peut mettre des musiques supplémentaires sur ITG? C'est parce que Roxor etait entrain de perdre leur guerre de droits contre Konami. Alors, la compagnie nous a donnée cette option comme un cadeau. Sinon, on serait pris à jouer leurs musiques officielles que personne ne joue à présent. Concernant le style de chart entre DDR et ITG, ce n'est qu'une question de goût. Si tu préfères l'aspect technique tu choisirais DDR, si tu préfères le cardio et la vitesse: ITG.
Konami, like many companies, only think about cash. DDR/ITG won't work in Europe because of casual games (I don't say just dance for example sucks but DDR/ITG are references in musical game) ITG has so many advantages. You can put your own songs. Well, an ITG machine will always have DDR songs. DDR'll never be like ITG. Need to have streams WITHOUT crossovers and breaks between streams for 3min. It's really about stamina. Well my ITG friends do lvl17 songs but still can't pass that song....
@BenTennison16 I don't necessarily enjoy the look of it, not the organization of the menus. I think the idea of mines was a terrible idea, just like shock arrows are, and I much prefer the "Japanese otaku music." Although heads up, you might want to remember what oyaku means. Nor do alot of songs sound even remotely that way.
I play both of them and I really like the both of them. Well I don't really play DDR for high score but rather for fun with spin and free style (a little bit like right round level 10 in ITG). But yeah, passing to DDR after ITG is really easy hahaha But there are still some good boss songs like the Fascinations and the Paranoias But i kinda agree with you for songs like New Decade or possession Oni (the expert modes are okay. Anti matter is the best X2 songs konami has made).
Jigglypoof I know I'm 4 years late but it's because that the bpm is so slow and there are so many arrows on the screen it will be alot harder to read the arrows without cutoff.
that's a crime man, it really is. you might as well download it online and get a pad. taht really sucks though. Europe is truly deprived of dance simulators, I truly feel bad for you guys.
That's funny, considering that DDR was the grandfather of all dancing games, whether it be Exxceed, ITG, or StepMania. You should be thanking DDR for spawning your lovely, shitty game.
without sounding biased - how EXACTLY does in the groove suck may i ask? because it's certainly not the lack of innovation (at that time - and even now from its fanbase), its definitely not the charts, or the custom ability or its difficulty (as there are nice easy charts). Music? well that is subjective. But I prefer Western trance/techno and small indy artists instead of japanese otaku music.
Man, what you say isn't different from saying that CoD and Battlefield are the same game, and so are Tekken / Soul Calibur or even Blazblue / King of Fighter. Just play both games and with a dancepad and you would understand that ITG and DDR are differrent.
Why you have to be rude? ITG is for experienced players actually and you know it. It's commercially dead and it's just for fans. That's a fact. ITG is actually monotone (the same style. they really have to make new things), that's the thing i dislike. No real timing. no real dancing. just all songs with 16th-note streams. and bosses songs are funny? No way. they are designed to kick asses not to be quaded. That's my opinion. ITG isn't bad, but it's actually not perfection. They're always da same
i really don;t know why people say DDR and ITG are different. Goal in both games: Step on arrows that are corresponding to the screen. T_T THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME FUCKING GAME
I do thank DDR. and I thought DDR was the best thing ever up until Extreme. but ITG elevated everything. they started making harder charts and incorporated hands, mines, and rolls. then Konami got mad cause Roxor and ITG were owning them. then they shut ITG down and try to be them with these retarded charts with step patterns that don't even make sense. and shock arrows? really? DDR is just pathetic now, I'll just play ITG!
In 1998 paranoia was the hardest
Oh, My, Gosh.
IMPOSSIBLE
His feet were having seizures!!!!
Ive been waiting to see this for a long time!
it reduces confusion on slower parts. when you play DDR, you develop a threshold on how many arrows you can take at once before you brain starts to confuse itself. the less arrows on the screen, the better your brain can process and therefore have ur feet respond accordingly.
最初早送りにしか見えねぇwww
化け物かよ…
0:35 - 0:40 is ridiculous, it doesn't even look real! Props man, Konami really out did themselves on this chart
開いた口がふさがらない
ITG is for experienced players that wants to prove their stamina (actually is like an StepMania, because the only thing that have ITG alive are USB customs). But most people prefer a DDR style interphace and music. and you can see that at all fan-sites around the Internet. Honestly I like both. and they're completly different in all the things. Konami shut ITG down, because they used their old arcades machines to put ITG software without Konami's Permission.
ハイスコア95%はすご過ぎる...是非見てみたいです。
Even better, playing both of them :P
...it doesn't matter if it ain't on sudden death mode. You got my respect man!
Non, je savais pas à propos de ce débat Konami/Roxxor mais bon l'essentiel est le résultat.
Je joue les 2 tout simplement. J'adore l'esprit technique de DDR mais ITG permet d'entraîner mon endurance pour que je puisse tenir plus longtemps les musiques. Mais cela veut pas dire que je réussis mieux les musiques (J'arrive pas encore à avoir un A à Fascination Maxx Expert)
If this is the fastest tune, what is the slowest tune? Like the tune that has the longest time between steps on the easiest possible setting? Probably some cheesy slow pop song like My Heart Will Go On, with one step every 5 years.
probably somewhere over the rainbow. It's a cover on DDR max, and it goes at 35 bpm for a large chunk of the song
and this isn't even the fastest prolonged speed in a ddr songs btw. That goes to 888
Dgraham13 What is the fastest song?
+Matthew Collinson The song is called 888. For most of the song, it goes at 222 bpm and holds streams of 444 bpm. But towards the very end, the song jumps to 444 bpm with an epic 888 bpm streams!
Dgraham13 I never actually count the individual steps as tempo. I don't see them as "888 bpm", but "222 bpm" with "4 steps per beat", i.e. 888 steps per minute (or 14.8 steps per second)
This guy is good!
ITG really raised the bar for dance simulators. players got accustomed to the difficult charts and preferred them over the simple DDR ones. ITG charts were hard, but they made sense. and they did interesting things with them (like 32nd note streams in Determinator & Hardcore of the North, jacks in Tell & Pandemonium, and generally long suicide runs) Konami knew they had to step up and make harder charts, but they ended up making senseless stupid charts. such a joke now.
Rolls are like freeze arrows but you have to keep stepping at them like they were normal arrows. if you don't do that you'll get a NG.
your rite. itg is the way to go. i just wish there more dedicabs to play on. problem with itg is that its practically confined to the territory of the US (and perhaps canada). here in Europe we have 10 dedicabs at most !!!
he did it earlier in the vid and it took away the bottom portion of the screen, and he pressed it again at 1:58 to return it to normal. idk why but i know some players like to make it look like it's going faster, it helps i guess? maybe thats what he was doin
Man. He's catching up to Sonic BY SPEED and PERCENTAGE. 92.7%. Who can beat that score?!
I can just dance a level 16 song... I can't hold me
yeah it's sad. they used to be awesome. I don't know what happened, but they really jsut went downhill after the Roxor incident
Project Diva
soon enough he'll have a no bar recording of this lol
二枚抜きしないでクリアする人初めて見たｗｗｗ
やべぇｗｗｗ
Oui, mais sais-tu pourquoi on peut mettre des musiques supplémentaires sur ITG? C'est parce que Roxor etait entrain de perdre leur guerre de droits contre Konami. Alors, la compagnie nous a donnée cette option comme un cadeau. Sinon, on serait pris à jouer leurs musiques officielles que personne ne joue à présent.
Concernant le style de chart entre DDR et ITG, ce n'est qu'une question de goût. Si tu préfères l'aspect technique tu choisirais DDR, si tu préfères le cardio et la vitesse: ITG.
I've passed this song on beginner. The furthest I've gotten in basic is almost to the last freeze arrows
@JSwanKilowJ The step patterns are just fine. And yeah, shock arrows are cheesy as fuck. I hate mines though and I don't even know what rolls are.
men you are been instaled in the maching with 20000 yens
this makes max 300 look like easy cake.
this makes pandemonium from itg look like a bitch boss song by comparison
WTF ??? Iam seeing good? He got an AA on this WOW O_o
hey, you're entitled to your conviction. doesnt change the fact that ddr charts are wanna be ITG charts :)
the worst part is..... it wasn't even the highscore.
Let's see someone PASS it on a soft-mat first. Damn.
@sebcheats yeah!!
Konami, like many companies, only think about cash.
DDR/ITG won't work in Europe because of casual games (I don't say just dance for example sucks but DDR/ITG are references in musical game)
ITG has so many advantages. You can put your own songs. Well, an ITG machine will always have DDR songs.
DDR'll never be like ITG. Need to have streams WITHOUT crossovers and breaks between streams for 3min. It's really about stamina.
Well my ITG friends do lvl17 songs but still can't pass that song....
Autoplay can't MFC anything, although it can PFC everything. That's just its limitations.
@Fernando Royet Might as well just put multiple arrows...
もはやダンスゲームじゃない
he is a good player
@BenTennison16 I don't necessarily enjoy the look of it, not the organization of the menus. I think the idea of mines was a terrible idea, just like shock arrows are, and I much prefer the "Japanese otaku music." Although heads up, you might want to remember what oyaku means. Nor do alot of songs sound even remotely that way.
Holy shit
I play both of them and I really like the both of them.
Well I don't really play DDR for high score but rather for fun with spin and free style (a little bit like right round level 10 in ITG).
But yeah, passing to DDR after ITG is really easy hahaha
But there are still some good boss songs like the Fascinations and the Paranoias
But i kinda agree with you for songs like New Decade or possession Oni (the expert modes are okay. Anti matter is the best X2 songs konami has made).
@ddrmaxman maybe something like "play for 100yens" or something XDDDD
Is there a reason why you touch the cabinet at 1:58? Never played X2. Did you actually do something or was that just to show off?
Jigglypoof I know I'm 4 years late but it's because that the bpm is so slow and there are so many arrows on the screen it will be alot harder to read the arrows without cutoff.
that's a crime man, it really is. you might as well download it online and get a pad. taht really sucks though. Europe is truly deprived of dance simulators, I truly feel bad for you guys.
His style is interesting. I like it. Toggling sudden between speed changes. That little pose at the end. Haha.
Don't compare ITG to DDR, they're both different.
Again with the DDR vs ITG arguments... why you guys couldn't just be happy of what you have.
Who the f___ writes those charts anyway? Those are evil.
i agree
例のアレをガチ押しでやる人って、ランカーでもリンゴさんくらいしか居ないような………
That's funny, considering that DDR was the grandfather of all dancing games, whether it be Exxceed, ITG, or StepMania.
You should be thanking DDR for spawning your lovely, shitty game.
What the hell was with the random jump during the very last stream?
without sounding biased - how EXACTLY does in the groove suck may i ask? because it's certainly not the lack of innovation (at that time - and even now from its fanbase), its definitely not the charts, or the custom ability or its difficulty (as there are nice easy charts). Music? well that is subjective. But I prefer Western trance/techno and small indy artists instead of japanese otaku music.
Man, what you say isn't different from saying that CoD and Battlefield are the same game, and so are Tekken / Soul Calibur or even Blazblue / King of Fighter.
Just play both games and with a dancepad and you would understand that ITG and DDR are differrent.
god damn it konami
Dude, AUTOPLAY can't even get an MFC on this song on Challenge lol.
480 BPM streams -.-
Why you have to be rude? ITG is for experienced players actually and you know it. It's commercially dead and it's just for fans. That's a fact. ITG is actually monotone (the same style. they really have to make new things), that's the thing i dislike. No real timing. no real dancing. just all songs with 16th-note streams. and bosses songs are funny? No way. they are designed to kick asses not to be quaded. That's my opinion. ITG isn't bad, but it's actually not perfection. They're always da same
Rank "A"sian.
i really don;t know why people say DDR and ITG are different.
Goal in both games: Step on arrows that are corresponding to the screen. T_T
THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME FUCKING GAME
I do thank DDR. and I thought DDR was the best thing ever up until Extreme. but ITG elevated everything. they started making harder charts and incorporated hands, mines, and rolls. then Konami got mad cause Roxor and ITG were owning them. then they shut ITG down and try to be them with these retarded charts with step patterns that don't even make sense. and shock arrows? really? DDR is just pathetic now, I'll just play ITG!
足が4本いりますね
thanks buddy. and yes, i hate konami. what a shite company. worst customer service , too.
ランカーかな...？
フルコンボできない曲ってアリ？
どうなってんの
In The Groove sucks.