The Story Of Baldur's Gate 2 - Supercut

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @onnol917
    @onnol917 2 роки тому +155

    I want to thank you for letting me relive this amazing story without having to replay the whole game. I do not have the time for that but the fond memories are something worth visiting again. Thank you

  • @Jesse_Dawg
    @Jesse_Dawg Рік тому +42

    The part where the evil mage breaks out of spellhold and starts blasting the other mages is kinda awesome. I love that he is so powerful and taunts them lol

  • @RotundRager
    @RotundRager Рік тому +28

    I had always assumed that rather than it being a mistake when Bodhi says the Shadow Thieves bartered with Irenicus to have him capture you, that she was simply lying. It would be in character for her to say that to try and frame the tasks you just did for her as being for your benefit as well (i.e. revenge) rather than what would otherwise be the most logical in-universe exploitation (that she's exploiting you in your time of need to win her gang war). A way to make it look like you're both in this together as victims.

  • @Cryptic0013
    @Cryptic0013 10 місяців тому +4

    Really appreciate this!
    I went through your "How to" guide on the OG game and really tried to give it a fair shake, but I think I just arrived to the party too late, without the benefit of any nostalgia goggles or previous experience to anchor me, and couldn't come to grips with the visual presentation, navigation, and totally unbalanced combat (it was either frustrating hard or mindnumbingly easy, but I couldn't find a happy medium). But I really wanted to know the story, especially to get up to speed on BG3, and this is perfect.

  • @daroe2340
    @daroe2340 2 роки тому +40

    Getting David Warner to voice Irenicus was genius. RIP.

    • @CiceroSolo
      @CiceroSolo Рік тому +4

      Best villain in all of games and his voice is a massive part of that

    • @danielbazzana5735
      @danielbazzana5735 Місяць тому

      All of his lines live rent free in my head. My friends and I used to quote him all the time in high school

  • @mrsbadexample9014
    @mrsbadexample9014 Рік тому +9

    Thank you for this. I just watched your Baldur's Gate 1 recap as well. I played both of these games when I was a kid, and honestly remembered so little of it other than "Minsc was funny and there was a hamster named Boo". I remembered characters when 3 came out, but I couldn't remember how important they were or what relevance events were. This was fantastic, and I got to relive my childhood.

  • @nicolaslammasniemi1640
    @nicolaslammasniemi1640 2 роки тому +136

    @Mortismal Gaming Just as fyi, I did notice you mentioning in the end there that if you ascend to godhood you become a god of murder, but there is another ending as well, if you play a good character and ascend you become a good deity instead of god of murder. This is what I did in my last playthrough.

    • @Albtraum_TDDC
      @Albtraum_TDDC Рік тому +3

      Whut?

    • @AB-ir7sf
      @AB-ir7sf Рік тому +9

      @@Albtraum_TDDC I haven't played the game but apparently there's 3 endings in BG2. Ascending to divinity OR Embracing the essence of Bhaal or staying a mortal.

    • @theunhappygamer1744
      @theunhappygamer1744 Рік тому

      @@Albtraum_TDDC what's whut?

    • @Wiliraughshai
      @Wiliraughshai Рік тому

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    • @Der_Hoschinator
      @Der_Hoschinator 10 місяців тому

      ​@@theunhappygamer1744 ok

  • @tomjack1000000
    @tomjack1000000 Рік тому +4

    13:37 Whoever wrote this line has experienced "That guy" for sure.

  • @tomaslekis3262
    @tomaslekis3262 Рік тому +58

    The greatest RPG ever made, in my humble opinion.
    Fantastic writing, a great villain and a well done story that absolutely gripped a 12 year old me when I first played it a couple decades ag.
    Thank you for bringing back some great memories.

    • @donk8961
      @donk8961 Рік тому +3

      Watching this after hitting the end of Act 2 in BG3 and I’m blown away how much was already there in BG1 and 2

    • @devonmarr9872
      @devonmarr9872 Рік тому +2

      BG1 is solid but a little more open.
      BG2 is more focused in its main story and its great coming right off of 1

  • @christopherchilton-smith6482
    @christopherchilton-smith6482 Рік тому +1

    Willing to bet that the table top Canon is basically just Bhaal didn't collect all his sper...essence so some of that ick is still swimming around out there causing problems coughcoughdarkurgecough.

  • @exsnozer
    @exsnozer Рік тому +16

    And a couple hours later Ive seen both 1 and 2 supercuts. Great videos. Hopefully I remember some of the stuff atleast. :)

  • @Arthur_url
    @Arthur_url Рік тому +21

    Amazing recap man, just finished watching the first game's as well. I wanted to play BG 1 and 2 before the release of 3, but I won't have enough time and I didn't want to rush them, so these recaps are incredibly useful. Thanks!

  • @TravisDoomGuide
    @TravisDoomGuide Рік тому +8

    One of the official cannon endings is the Abdel the hero refuses to give up his divine essence and just remains mortal with a small portion of a God. He eventually goes crazy and murders a bunch of people and is killed. Crap ending but the cannon books are just plain awful anyway.

  • @WardenCommander.
    @WardenCommander. Рік тому +7

    Thank you so much for all the work and time you put in these videos! The narration of the story is so smooth, and all the different details and pathways are explained in such an easy-to-follow manner.

  • @YouWillNeverKnowMan
    @YouWillNeverKnowMan 3 роки тому +9

    34:06 (and 42:13) On my first run of the game (many moons ago), this broke my heart.

  • @nostres00
    @nostres00 Рік тому +7

    Great video, loved listening to it, I just couldn't get myself to invest the time needed to catch up through the game and this helped with my fomo greatly.

  • @furioni333
    @furioni333 2 роки тому +17

    1.Paying the vampires is the best option, because you get to destroy both guilds, which is both more exp, and lore-wise you clear the city of filth.
    2. Getting the bag of holding from the bodhi maze is a must, and not getting it will make the game a lot more tedious.
    3. Imoen is actually amazing, just her personality might be a tad annoying to some.

  • @jonahhekmatyar
    @jonahhekmatyar Рік тому +7

    I literally bought BG3 and then went back to watch your two story videos because I literally know nothing about these games. Lol

    • @jack6600
      @jack6600 5 місяців тому

      Literally

  • @nothingelse1520
    @nothingelse1520 Рік тому +1

    So I got BG2 back at launch. Made it to the end of Chapter 3 and my HDD died :( Lost like 50+ hours I had done a TON of side content. In 2006 I decided to play it again. Made it to the middle of Chapter 2, my HDD died again. I couldn't believe my luck. I always said I would finish BG2 "one day" but with BG3 out I just watched your video in preparation. Moving on :) Going to play BG3 after they patch it a bit more.

  • @Dunker79
    @Dunker79 3 роки тому +9

    Never completed the game. But this video makes me want to get the enhanced ed and give it one more crack. Awesome video dude!!

    • @ahouyearno
      @ahouyearno 3 роки тому +3

      It took me years but I’m now at the final chapter. It’s worth it

  • @Jesse_Dawg
    @Jesse_Dawg Рік тому +6

    This was so well put together! I would have loved if you went into the canon endings for both DnD and for this game. And what the differences were and how they decided on it and what the implications are. Thank you for this video. Please more

  • @crabmanballin
    @crabmanballin 3 роки тому +12

    Giving a lecture on the stories of this game in like a month so this couldn't have come out at a better time :)

    • @NicklasBenRasmussen
      @NicklasBenRasmussen 3 роки тому +6

      That's awesome. Where are you giving the lecture, and is it something that can be viewed online @Triston?

    • @Camaraocompao
      @Camaraocompao 6 місяців тому

      Man, im a teacher and i would be a very happy one if my classes where about DnD and Baldurs Gate.

  • @idnyftw
    @idnyftw 3 роки тому +38

    I can't take the name "Sanik" seriously anymore in 2021...

  • @easye9186
    @easye9186 3 роки тому +8

    Genius choice playing as a bard. Best class in the game. Not that it matters in story, but its my favorite

    • @MortismalGaming
      @MortismalGaming  3 роки тому

      Yeah it was a character I was using for the LoB playthroughs originally

  • @MrVommy
    @MrVommy Рік тому +2

    This is great to catch up before starting BG 3

  • @STOPPEDINCOLORADO
    @STOPPEDINCOLORADO 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for these videos, man. I wanted some context for the stuff I'm experiencing in BG3.

  • @thatonedude
    @thatonedude Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this. I got the beta for 3 and i genuinely didn't know what i was getting into tbh. So thanks for the insight! Hope to watch more in the future!

    • @raiusdaltar1483
      @raiusdaltar1483 Рік тому

      Could always just play BG 1&2! Ya know, since they're some of the best CRPGs of all time.

  • @KaiSaeren
    @KaiSaeren 3 роки тому +16

    Man I still love Imoen so much! I cant help but rush to save her as soon as possible, nobody will hurt her on my watch ever again :D

    • @MrLekorrigan
      @MrLekorrigan 3 роки тому +9

      At the start of bg2 she only want quiet and peace yet she will follow you to litteral hell and back if you need, must protect her at all cost

    • @fedeykin22
      @fedeykin22 2 роки тому +8

      Heya! It's me! Imoen!

    • @pudding3387
      @pudding3387 2 роки тому

      Yeah I would have loved an option to let Bodhi keep Imoen’s soul in exchange for her becoming an ally against Irenicus. Kinda just made no sense that she betrays you after you’ve shown nothing but loyalty. Lazy writing I guess.

  • @zetterburger
    @zetterburger Рік тому +1

    I was so young when I played this game and needed the refresher for BG3 tomorrow. Thank you!

  • @marc09969
    @marc09969 3 роки тому +4

    Throne of Blood was in Gehenna, not Abyss, the game's designers missed that

  • @Sefhen
    @Sefhen Рік тому

    Thanks for making these recaps, I've been enjoying playing BG3 now that it launched officially and I realized I never actually finished playing these two games 20 years ago when they came out when I was a teenager and I was wondering if I should play them now because I own the enhanced editions on steam but this saves me time that I don't have as an adult with a day job. BG3 has lots of callbacks to the earlier games and they now make a lot more sense after watching these 😅

  • @samshaw5014
    @samshaw5014 Рік тому +5

    So Sanik was trying to run away? When he was killed, did he drop a whole bunch of rings?

  • @s.p.1434
    @s.p.1434 11 місяців тому +1

    For those interested in the specifics, the actual "canon" of the tabletop game is sort of disappointing in a way for different reasons.
    Basically the actual Canon module for D&D is that another bhaal spawn attempts to assassinate Abdel while he is one of the Dukes of Baldur's gate and, regardless of the outcome, the victor of that fight basically explodes into an Avatar of Bhaal, which either is slain the players of the module or is left to escape and presumably wreck havoc on the world. Either way, Bhaal basically shortly after reascends to godhood. So yeah, kind of worse than the videogame version, tbh.

  • @kingxred2487
    @kingxred2487 Рік тому

    after learning the story it seems almost like Dark Urge is the "canon" Baldur's Gate 3 playthrough

    • @Wankers001
      @Wankers001 10 місяців тому +1

      I think it has been stated by Larian themselves that it is, but in true DnD fashion and a wise choice by Larian, they made it possible to make your own Char and run with it. Still the 3rd act without Dark Urge is just not the same. It kind of feels less personal and gripping

  • @MrApostolis78
    @MrApostolis78 Рік тому +3

    What everyone must do is buy the remastered versions of both BG1 + BG2 and the new game area that connects the two and then there is a mod that allows you to join all 3 into a huge game to experience the whole thing as one.

    • @fedorustimenko3057
      @fedorustimenko3057 7 місяців тому

      Wait, there is a mod connecting bg1 and bg2 into a singular game?

  • @Liednard
    @Liednard Рік тому +1

    33:00 I remember I attacked the coordinator immediately, recognizing his voice. Don't do that, you'll get soft-locked. (He won't initiate dialogue once you reach the end of the asylum)
    Thanks for the vid :) Still one of my favorite western RPGs, that the 3rd didn't quite match unfortunately (but is still pretty good)

  • @LemonGingerHoney
    @LemonGingerHoney Рік тому +7

    Thank you very much for your work! I never got into this game, but at last, I know the story! Ready for Baldur's Gate 3.
    Tho I wonder, why the second game is called "Baldur's Gate"? The first one had a city. This one had no mentions to it?

    • @thatindiandude4602
      @thatindiandude4602 Рік тому +5

      I think it's to keep congruency with the series. It is titled shadows of Amn so it does keep geographical integrity.

  • @HamiltonWard
    @HamiltonWard Рік тому +2

    Thank you so much for this. Insanely well done

  • @evelynflatt7486
    @evelynflatt7486 25 днів тому

    The cat in the background had me looking around my house 😂

  • @GwresYnKernow
    @GwresYnKernow 8 місяців тому

    Me: "Huh, what's so ridiculous about" *says Svirfneblin aloud for the first time*
    Me: "Oh."

  • @easye9186
    @easye9186 3 роки тому +6

    Thanks so much. Always entertaining when you make these story explanations.

  • @gordonmcinnes8328
    @gordonmcinnes8328 2 роки тому +1

    The one character I cannot stand ('my teeth grate when he says 'Coo') is Gaelen Bayle, to the extent that I usually choose siding with Bodhi just to hear his dialogue when I attack him.

  • @sirgideonofnir6840
    @sirgideonofnir6840 Рік тому +1

    Watching this a week before the release of 3.

  • @MegaBreheny
    @MegaBreheny Рік тому +1

    Awesome storytelling Mort! I loved listening to this game that my time just can't spend playing. Thank you!

  • @MatejStefan
    @MatejStefan 11 місяців тому +1

    Ty for these recaps BG I + II

  • @thejoshuawatts
    @thejoshuawatts 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for doing these! Really enjoy watching your story series videos!

  • @Stezzanz
    @Stezzanz 2 роки тому +1

    This is awesome. Thanks for compiling this.

  • @antoniodittman5820
    @antoniodittman5820 11 місяців тому

    The deep gnomes are called Svirfneblin, its unfortunately prononlunced exactly as it looks. It is a rough one because it seems to be an attempt to create a word that sounds Scandinavian haha

  • @ChoppedCheeese
    @ChoppedCheeese Рік тому

    Would love one of these for the Tyranny story, but get that could be tricky/too time consuming

  • @Outerwebs
    @Outerwebs Рік тому +11

    Always found it really annoying that BGII retcons whatever you did in terms of developing Imoen in BGI, and also throws in the conceit of her being a Bhaal spawn too.
    Reminds me of how Princess Leia goes from being Luke's love interest to his sister, and Vader becomes his father in Episode V, when clearly neither was planned during Episode IV.

    • @makisbizarreadventure4669
      @makisbizarreadventure4669 Рік тому +1

      Those latter changes were so much for the better lol

    • @Outerwebs
      @Outerwebs Рік тому

      @@makisbizarreadventure4669 Vader being Luke’s father, yes. His romantic interest, who kissed him on the mouth turning out to be his sister? Not so much…

  • @bradveach4832
    @bradveach4832 Рік тому

    What an incredible job absolutely fantastic. Thank you so very much.

  • @orarinnsnorrason4614
    @orarinnsnorrason4614 3 роки тому +21

    Dude. Did you kill the beholder in the water city? Why? His dialogue where you convince him to simply give you the thing is hilarious. Not to mention you get way more exp by tricking him.
    Edit: To do so you need 13 wisdom or Haer'Dalis or Jan Jansen in your party.

    • @canyonntt6969
      @canyonntt6969 2 роки тому +3

      It also helps you in Throne of Bhaal

    • @BasedSociety1
      @BasedSociety1 Рік тому +1

      That's false, you actually need intelligence to convince him not wisdom, trust me I had 19 wisdom but that wasn't enough to convince the beholder.

  • @raiusdaltar1483
    @raiusdaltar1483 Рік тому

    I appreciate the expertly detailed recaps so much as it has been a few years since my last playthrough of BG 1 or 2, but man it almost hurts to see so many people who jumped on board with 3 and have no intention of every experiencing these masterpieces for themselves.

  • @christophereduardo9903
    @christophereduardo9903 10 місяців тому

    that narrator was on point

  • @Cold_Zero_The_Wise
    @Cold_Zero_The_Wise Рік тому

    I find irenicus very fascinating, would you be willing to do a character background a d breakdown on the NPCs of baulders gate I hardly see anything about them, or even interesting sidequest as well.

  • @lunar_arcus
    @lunar_arcus 7 місяців тому +1

    Being 35 remembering being 12. Thank you.

    • @Sn33t
      @Sn33t 6 місяців тому

      The same for me, love that! ❤

  • @alexsamurai1230
    @alexsamurai1230 25 днів тому

    Hmm something just occured to me. As of the end of BG1, Imoen is a monoclass thief, no? Of course in Dragonspear there is a plot point where she sets herself to learn magic but that was released long after the original games. As far as the original release is concerned, is it just that she starts blasting off magic with no explanation as to where she learned it?

  • @NicklasBenRasmussen
    @NicklasBenRasmussen 3 роки тому +6

    How in all that is good and holy does this video not have 1 million views yet?
    Mortismal, your channel has much untapped power. Do you even realize your potential?

  • @uhnborhn5032
    @uhnborhn5032 Рік тому

    excellent work my friend

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205
    @fernandozavaletabustos205 Рік тому

    Great recapitulation!

  • @scanpower8439
    @scanpower8439 Рік тому

    Thank you sir this is fantastic

  • @forlornfool221
    @forlornfool221 Рік тому

    Thanks Adventuror!

  • @arbuz135
    @arbuz135 Рік тому

    thank you for the video!

  • @CrazyTurks12
    @CrazyTurks12 7 місяців тому +1

    42:50 cat

  • @harrisonmarlow8608
    @harrisonmarlow8608 10 місяців тому

    My dude. You sound like Fozzy Bear

  • @jonathankhoo1718
    @jonathankhoo1718 Рік тому

    Thnks kind friend

  • @triuwe14
    @triuwe14 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent content!

  • @Texelion
    @Texelion 9 місяців тому

    Not sure if I should bother finishing this game or not. When they announced BG3 I forced myself to finish BG1 after countless tries, and I really don't enjoy the gameplay of BG2, the realtime combat is a mess and I don't know the rules well enough to play, so I just keep dying and reloading or lowering the difficulty. Between the overpowered mage enemies, the trolls that can only be killed by specific fire attacks ( they say acid works too, but Melf's acid arrow never works on them ), the cowled mages arresting me when I forget that I can't use spells in the city ( awful mechanic here, it makes my Cleric useless, and Jaheira and the other mage girl too ), the random encounters that just wreck my party because I'm not prepared for a fight, etc, it's just not enjoyable.
    Now I learn that I'll have to fight vampires with level drain ? I don't even know how to deal with that. This game is more about reading rule books and reloading a save than actually playing the game, and lowering the difficulty makes it trivial and boring.

  • @sjbonadonna
    @sjbonadonna 2 роки тому +1

    Just bought it... again. :P

  • @leeu5560
    @leeu5560 2 роки тому

    Awesome video!

  • @SSS-yk2wv
    @SSS-yk2wv 2 роки тому +1

    Hi, would you please make a video about the classic stutter that plagues almost all of the crpg’s? And maybe possible fixes. Or maybe accompany every 100% game with the seetings that worked best for you? I guess it’s common consensus that crpg’s stutter even on high end rigs.

    • @MortismalGaming
      @MortismalGaming  2 роки тому +1

      It's the Unity Engine that does it, I've only had success with just reloading the game when it starts

    • @SSS-yk2wv
      @SSS-yk2wv 2 роки тому +1

      @@MortismalGaming In Poe 2, I’ve noticed the ingame v-sync does a decent job, not perfect, with frame pacing. Better than g-sync, frame limit or no v-sync.

  • @NieJestemWikingiem
    @NieJestemWikingiem 3 роки тому

    Ye! I was waiting for it

  • @wyattfraga2213
    @wyattfraga2213 Рік тому +1

    [SPOILERS]
    So I just beat this game recently, and I glitched the Balthazar encounter REALLY bad. Basically, I was doing a quest to recover the soul of a child on behalf of a man in Balthazar's town. When i did this, i madly clicked several of the sarcophagi in the top of the Lich's lair, which resulted in me entering the Monastery and he spilled the beans on him being Bhaalspawn. Bear in mind, I hadn't even touched the other two Bhaalspawn quests. As a result, I completely missed Elminster, I missed the Smuggler folks, i missed the third and fourth Bhaal Plane trials, and Saemon Havarian was nowhere to be found. Thankfully, I was still able to beat the game, but it left me with a baffling ToB experience. 😂

  • @diabolikghoul4508
    @diabolikghoul4508 9 днів тому

    Will you do Baldur’s Gate 3 next?

    • @MortismalGaming
      @MortismalGaming  9 днів тому

      Maybe in another year or two, doesn't make sense right now given how everyone has played through it

  • @bangchanswebbrowsinghistor5145
    @bangchanswebbrowsinghistor5145 3 роки тому

    what could you do for exemple to get one shot ? curious about it

  • @LeFaisDoDo
    @LeFaisDoDo 9 місяців тому

    Dayum Morty

  • @crankyknuckles1849
    @crankyknuckles1849 Рік тому

    Wonderful:)

  • @christianrodriguez1527
    @christianrodriguez1527 Рік тому

    Baldur's Gate games were great on my young age, but I tried to play it after playing Pillars of eternity games and I couldn't play Baldur's Gate Enhanced version due to the old combat mechanics doesn't help much 😢

  • @jakebooth9433
    @jakebooth9433 8 місяців тому

    UA-cam jazz

  • @KEEPOURSANITY
    @KEEPOURSANITY Рік тому

    1:09:09

  • @MrKluska11
    @MrKluska11 2 роки тому +1

    do you know where is Jaheira after leaving party?

    • @MortismalGaming
      @MortismalGaming  2 роки тому +1

      Check the copper coronet inn that's where most of them go

    • @MrKluska11
      @MrKluska11 2 роки тому +1

      @@MortismalGaming I have other problem. In korgan quest doesn't trigger dialogue when I am near a tomb where Kaza books are stolen.

    • @davidcardoso3525
      @davidcardoso3525 2 роки тому +2

      A little late, but Jaheira waits outside the Harper enclave on the docks.

  • @StephenChristopher07
    @StephenChristopher07 3 місяці тому

    why only 4 people in party?

  • @zeroboolinme
    @zeroboolinme Рік тому +1

    I'm kind of confused, why does Saemon help you after betraying you when you first get to the island? Also these have been amazing to watch as someone who never played these games but is thinking of getting Baldurs Gate 3

  • @crazymammoth
    @crazymammoth 3 роки тому +3

    so whats the cannon ending? you said there was one but never explain which one it was

    • @MortismalGaming
      @MortismalGaming  3 роки тому +1

      Stays mortal, married jaheira, later becomes a grand duke of Baldur's Gate before being murdered by the real last bhaalspawn in Baldur's Gate. Leads to the resurrection of Bhaal anyways.

    • @maxion5109
      @maxion5109 3 роки тому +3

      ​@@MortismalGaming If Gorion's ward chose a mortal fate than there couldn't have been any vestiges of bhaal's essence left in him so he can't be the one who turned into the slayer when killed in "murders in baldurs gate" so it had to be viekang, but again doesn't really make sense either. How could he have escaped Melissan? as she, according to forgotten realms wiki, "cured" him of his teleporting affliction when he came to Saradush, because that's exactly where she would have wanted him to be. To perish there in the siege. Yeah sure he could possibly have escaped, but seems pretty far fetched to me. She managed to lure all the remaining bhaalspawn to their deaths except the protagonist and embodied the collective essence of bhaal. (She lured gorions ward of course but was defeated ultimately was my point)
      All in all, Wotc's additional writings are definitely at odds with the original games. Throne of bhaal was meant to be the *conclusion* of the bhaalspawn saga but they just kind of retconned that because no no we need to milk this story further to sell dem books. Imo video games: canon, Wotc: fan fiction.

    • @MrKoraboras
      @MrKoraboras 3 роки тому

      @@maxion5109 You can cause Viekang to teleport by casting Fear on him ingame. Amelissan didn't really cure his teleportation weirdness, I think she just made him incapable of feeling fear through normal means, which the spell sorta bypasses. And I'd imagine Fear is one of the spells you'd cast once you break through the gates to help push the attack, so... Adds up imo, even if Abdel's party didn't cast it on him themselves.
      And I wouldn't say that Bhaal's essence within Abdel is entirely gone. He lived to be 134 years old as a human fighter. He didn't forsake his nature as a literal demigod, he just sealed up his divinity.
      Also it's been stated, that Bhaal existed as a vestige of sorts, kinda like Myrkul in Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer and manipulated Viekang and Abdel into finally resurrecting himself fully as a deity.

    • @maxion5109
      @maxion5109 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@MrKoraboras i'm not too familiar with Viekang's story other than from the video games so i guess it's technically plausible that he escaped the siege of saradush. But i have to disagree with your point on Abdel. Gorion's ward gave up his divine essence to be sealed up on mount celestial, forever preventing it from soiling further souls. He willingly gave up his power to live out his life as a mortal being, free of the taint. Any description of Bhaal still being present in him would ruin the spirit of that ending. One is ether free or not free, there's no in-between. If you whatch the throne of bhaal mortal ending video i think you'll see my point. That's why this other stuff about viekang is also at odds with it. Kind of ruins the narrative about bhaal's influence finally defeated by having this guy still running around. No bhaalspawn could have eluded deathstalker Amelyssan the blackhearted.
      What you're describing sound to me to be either from the novelization that was released alongside the games or what has been written *after* the games by Wotc or others, not from the original baldurs gate games. The novel was widely criticised by fans for not being consistent and accurate to the games original story and spirit. The same goes for Wotc betrayal at baldurs gate, so at this point i view the video games as a completely separate entity not connected to official Dnd lore. Hence my comment about everything that's written outside the game's story is fan fiction.
      For me the original baldurs gate games is the canon bhaalspawn saga and at the same time the quintessential forgotten realms storyline. No other DnD module or story comes close, not before and not after.

    • @MrKoraboras
      @MrKoraboras 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@maxion5109 The divine essence here is 'divinity'. The right to take a place among the other gods. Doesn't change Abdel's race, doesn't change his father is Bhaal and doesn't sever that connection - hence why he lived for over a century as a non-magic user and was still strong enough to battle another bhaalspawn. (bhaalspawn being a subrace btw)
      And yes, I'm talking about post-game stuff, when it comes to the second and third paragraph. First one is from the game itself.
      The games and the writing were both stated to be canon, just separate canon btw.
      Saying the Bhaalspawn saga is the quintessential FR storyline is a bit much tho. The game is cool and the storyline as well, but it had little consequences to Faerunn, just about a couple countries in the Sword Coast got slightly ransacked, it's not something you NEED to know about when you play DnD either.

  • @boschblue
    @boschblue 2 роки тому

    1:02:25

  • @onatgz
    @onatgz 3 роки тому +1

    first