But that’s one of the reasons the Ontario ppl are so cracked. You didn’t even mention Steven Santoli or John Wilkin. It’s definitely an iron sharpens iron situation
For Master Duel's Duelist Cup structure I think they should look at how Gwent handled competitive events. You have your normal ranked ladder from rank 30 to rank 1 (this just translates to Bronze -> Master). After you pass rank 1 you go into Pro Rank, which is a separate ladder and it exclusively looks at your MMR to place you on the leaderboard. Every month there's a rank reset, and the top 64 people in Pro Rank get to participate in qualifiers the following month, take the top spots of of those qualifiers and give them Worlds invitations, or take the X number of top spots from 3 months of qualifiers and give them an invitational competitive event which then qualifies them for Worlds. Letting people grind in a Pro Rank type of ladder over the course of the entire month will eliminate unhealthy habits of the 72 hour grind, and if the MMR system is sophisticated enough it will neutralize the necessity to have a large quantity of games played in order to do well overall (when you take a look at Gwent top 10 leaderboards each season, you'd see a spread of people who only played 200 ranked games that month compared to some that played well over 800 games that month having nearly the same MMR).
Not every wife approves a computer anymore after giving 2 births , xbox is way more accepted by the humanity. Anyway master duel is not designed for us tcg players anyway so its just a bad fun game
It would be fun if you could get an ocg competitive player on the podcast to have their point of view on the game, maxx c, master duel, the different formats etc
Loving this Heart of the Cast. I want to mention that I think Farfa did an excellent job helping dirct Ryan through his questions and explaining his thought process.
It's been a real grind trying to reach max rank in the MD Duelist cup, but as one of the very select few GhoTear players (Ghoti Tearlaments) it's been awesome combining my two favorite decks and blowing up snake-eyes boards with Deep Beyond if all else doesn't work to stop them. The unbanning of the dragon rulers (Tidal specifically) really is the bridge between Tear and Ghoti that I've been waiting for. Milling my tuners and then special summoning Tidal by banishing my tuners or just one of them leads to so much on the following turns! Just have to hit my tuners first, which sometimes doesn't happen, but that's okay. Ryan is absolutely right though with being in a good, healthy mindset. Found myself getting miffed over my cards being tributed by a surprise sphere mode, or not being able to play into someone's board because I drew my one of's or more hand traps than actual engine id like. Gonna try and reach for lvl 20 within the next week, before stage 2 comes. Love my Cosmic Astral Fish and my Deep Sea Queens. ❤️🔥
If you're not declined to playing Burn, by sheer nature of playing a different game than everybody else who's trying to outresource their opponents you can steal quite a few wins, if you do it right. Some one has posted videos on YT where they allegedly reached Master rank with such a deck, and as far as I can tell there's something to this (at least once you've picked up how such a deck is supposed to be played). Going second is almost helpful, I find, since you can draw into another trap to set while no opponent ends on mass backrow removal, so once they have a board you have nothing to fear but Duster exactly. Among Hidden Blast, Ring of Destruction, Just Desserts, Mahaama, etc. you can deal over 8000 damage pretty consistently before you die yourself.
I think my favorite part of the podcast is how often Josh and the guests are to shut farfa down when he’s goin yap mode. While also being able to take him seriously when he is bringing good discussion has got to be a tough balance
While we talked about the OCG players's positive mindsets, did you know that Japan shops have to ban Zoodiac (back when the deck was a tier 0 deck) and Mystic Mine themselves so thay can maintaince the players?
As a casual player, I'm not sure I actually want gem rewards for DC 2nd stage. It's already gruelling enough having to grind against meta decks to hit DLv 20. It's not that I don't enjoy facing meta decks, but if you have to play a lot in a row the fun definitely goes away. Most of the time I just go up to lv 18-19 and then just drop it.
For the duelist cup if I play I just grind the gem rewards, thats it. As someone with a full time job with the current system I could never hope to compete with a teenager with 3 days off school, so I would say i play it casually.
hi i think im part of Farfa's mentioned casual-competitive demographic of players. i play an hour a day just to have fun but also i have the skill to hit master 1 if i wanted to, i just dont play enough games in the month to actually reach it. which is also why i dont really try in the DC, i'd go insane with that many hours invested, so im fine with top 1000. ask me anything :)
and again you guys had an interesting podcast to listen to. For the issue you had about casual, competitive and the things between... I personally do not have this isse since I started to categorize differntly. For me there are now only players and competitors. Since a few months ago I start to avoid the terms casual and competitive. Not because I think that they are wrong, but more so because it is hard to see the line between those two in a "competitive" game by nature. What I mean by that is simple. YGO is a 2-Player 1v1 game where only 1 of the players can a achieve a victory condition. So the game is basicly by the rules competitive due to the fact you strive for this victory condition before your opponent can reach it. Only my two cents for that.
I know this one is 9 months old now, but I listen to these on Spotify(where you cant comment) but Ryans mic here made this episode unlistenable. Love having guests in and will never expect everyone to have a streamer tier mic, but please for any future guests make sure their mic quality won't make our ears bleed. Love the podcast tho and will keep listening on spotify!
@cheesycheese7100 I've never lost to swords. Only lose to Maxx c mainly and occasional misplays. But if I'm being serious I didn't know I could turn crossplay off on Xbox until a few months ago. I still don't even know where the option for that is lol
I can 100% agree with farfa on the causal playtime debate. In order to play casual, you have to enjoy the game. I'm logging on and seeing anything about gems being given tournament or not. I'm 100% grinding to max out the amount being offered because I enjoy the game as a causal player. The difficulty only plays a part to people who are either above or below that causal standard💯
I agree with Farfa, Im a casual (but I have won some OTS's). I play meta decks but sometimes play two or three games per day. When events happen I grind them to get the rewards but in the case of the Duelist Cup I just get to lvl 20 because the rewards are like legacy packs and irrelevant shit. If there were some cool cosmetics or gems involved in the 72 hour grind I will likely dedicate at least a day to just play to get those rewards.
I definitely think I'd fall in the casual player realm. I play it every time l, and I always at least get through round 1 for the rewards, but I'm not going to be playing top tier decks for 20 hours a day. Any day 2 play I do is just for fun mostly, cause there aren't good rewards for people that aren't trying to make it to the top of the rankings. I wish I could get more gems from doing it lol
I play until 20 then play a few games every day to complete dailies cause you can't derank and during second stage enough to get into top 10k (I've never needed to win more than 20 games), and I thought that was a tad above casual lmao
theres two kinds of casuals. id consider me and my friends casuals but weve all played until dlvl17 at least. the gem rewards are nice and progression is steady, you can do it with basically any deck. the real challenge starts from there. some are open to it, others are not. stage 2 is like whatever, if you dont intend to grind theres no reason to play this over ranked
if you play casually the duelist cup 2nd stage you play for 30 minutes until you hit the top 20k never again open the duelist cup and then realize that you got pushed out of the minimum rank requirement to get rewards. but in therms of a content creator did farfa probably play casually as those need to put in way more time into master duel anyways
Farfa is extremely tone-deaf and horrible at reading the room. Ryan did NOT want to hear about how people were "furious" about his personal decisions. Leave the kid alone bro tf.
The only way to get Konami to change the Duelist Cup away from this psychotic 72 hour marathon is to report them to the government. The danger duelists are in is bad enough to get someone seriously hurt and only the government will get Konami to change this stupid event because Duel Links players have been screaming at them for 7 years about this and it’s gone on deaf ears.
@@rezzytheskyguy oh i get it Tcg players like you are completely fine with komoeny completely recking them with insane prices unrealistic rarities To your surprise thats how not it works in the rest of the world There are anti gambling laws and laws dedicated to such addictive behaviors mainly in china but in japan too USA simply doesn’t have laws to regulate companies thats why every a card that is a 3 of is a secret rare base rarity
@@rezzytheskyguy and reporting to the government does work Maybe not in your country that is ruled by companies You gotta lock up when a chinese player reported mihoyo for scamming because they made a skin that costs money free
As an Xbox/console user I can enjoy playing Master Duel through it it good play it and I know I'm a very competent duelist that reach on the high ladder. The bashing on console players is not appreciated
@@UncleMerlinI mean how do I not I play on console and I'm not boomer player with swords of revealing light or it's not like I don't know how to get around swords when knightmare Phoenix exist or harpies feather duster is a card
@@gerardonava8911it's a fact that the console demographic is less competitive than the PC demographic for master duel specifically. you don't have to get bent out of shape just because you specifically play on console. that would be like someone that shares a locals with Jesse Cotton getting mad that someone says winning locals is easier than a high tier event
I’m also an Xbox player, trust me bro us Xbox players that can actually hit diamond+ are the exception, you gotta admit the competition is just not the same.
I think the best system would be to limit the amount of games you can play. This would keep people from staying awake for 3 days straight, and also is still fair for slower decks. If you limit the amount of time you can play each day, then it really hurts slower decks like lab or runic. Having a set amount of games is the hest of both worlds. If you give each game about 20 minutes, then limiting each player to something like 24 games a day means people wont be playing for longer than 8 hours a day.
Bro, is that a bunkbed? Lol, he has a geography map on the wall. Not at all how I would imagine his room to look at 19. Someone needs to do some upgrading 😂. This kid has always been super shy sounding and quiet-ish. Glad, to see he is still around as a player. I hope he makes the most of college. I can definitely see him in tech support for sure. (No, I am not stating that because he's Asian.) 😂😂😂😂
@@jeremydyar7566 they giving them some small ass rooms lol. Nah, just doesn't have that look. Looks more like a house room, but eh. I wouldn't know for sure I got peeps living the dorm life, but I never did. Although, a lot of people nowadays just do community colleges etc. You can even do college online now.
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Yall can’t blame the college student for not having an audio setup like a content creator 😂
These zoomers spoiled, clearly didnt listen to podcasts when it 2 people in their basement with one phone mic to record 😆
Ryan Yu is a good player, so assh*les have to find something to make fun of him.
Having a locals scene with Jesse Kotton, Gab Vargas, and Ryan, it would be impossible to win an Ots championship😂
Tho Jesse never plays locals
@@thesuperiorfusion3686have you seen his marincess video
But that’s one of the reasons the Ontario ppl are so cracked. You didn’t even mention Steven Santoli or John Wilkin. It’s definitely an iron sharpens iron situation
Triff too. And others.
@@jadegrace1312 yeah Triff is nasty and there are TONS of other good players up there.
For Master Duel's Duelist Cup structure I think they should look at how Gwent handled competitive events.
You have your normal ranked ladder from rank 30 to rank 1 (this just translates to Bronze -> Master). After you pass rank 1 you go into Pro Rank, which is a separate ladder and it exclusively looks at your MMR to place you on the leaderboard.
Every month there's a rank reset, and the top 64 people in Pro Rank get to participate in qualifiers the following month, take the top spots of of those qualifiers and give them Worlds invitations, or take the X number of top spots from 3 months of qualifiers and give them an invitational competitive event which then qualifies them for Worlds.
Letting people grind in a Pro Rank type of ladder over the course of the entire month will eliminate unhealthy habits of the 72 hour grind, and if the MMR system is sophisticated enough it will neutralize the necessity to have a large quantity of games played in order to do well overall (when you take a look at Gwent top 10 leaderboards each season, you'd see a spread of people who only played 200 ranked games that month compared to some that played well over 800 games that month having nearly the same MMR).
As someone who plays Master Duel on Xbox, I feel incredibly called out.
Do you put swords of revealing light in your decks?
It's the cross-play turned off is what they're talking about.
Try turning off cross-play then hop in ranked and watch your rank 📈
I play on PS5, not everyone has a computer.
Not every wife approves a computer anymore after giving 2 births , xbox is way more accepted by the humanity. Anyway master duel is not designed for us tcg players anyway so its just a bad fun game
@@jeremydyar7566 Bingo, I don't do it myself but there were times where I've tempted, especially during a oppressive meta.
It would be fun if you could get an ocg competitive player on the podcast to have their point of view on the game, maxx c, master duel, the different formats etc
👍this up. Would be an interesting episode for aure
If you finish 512 in the Duelist Cup, you are definitely not a casual player. Just saying.
Loving this Heart of the Cast. I want to mention that I think Farfa did an excellent job helping dirct Ryan through his questions and explaining his thought process.
Farfa and Josh are actually a great interview team
It's been a real grind trying to reach max rank in the MD Duelist cup, but as one of the very select few GhoTear players (Ghoti Tearlaments) it's been awesome combining my two favorite decks and blowing up snake-eyes boards with Deep Beyond if all else doesn't work to stop them. The unbanning of the dragon rulers (Tidal specifically) really is the bridge between Tear and Ghoti that I've been waiting for. Milling my tuners and then special summoning Tidal by banishing my tuners or just one of them leads to so much on the following turns! Just have to hit my tuners first, which sometimes doesn't happen, but that's okay.
Ryan is absolutely right though with being in a good, healthy mindset. Found myself getting miffed over my cards being tributed by a surprise sphere mode, or not being able to play into someone's board because I drew my one of's or more hand traps than actual engine id like. Gonna try and reach for lvl 20 within the next week, before stage 2 comes. Love my Cosmic Astral Fish and my Deep Sea Queens. ❤️🔥
If you're not declined to playing Burn, by sheer nature of playing a different game than everybody else who's trying to outresource their opponents you can steal quite a few wins, if you do it right.
Some one has posted videos on YT where they allegedly reached Master rank with such a deck, and as far as I can tell there's something to this (at least once you've picked up how such a deck is supposed to be played).
Going second is almost helpful, I find, since you can draw into another trap to set while no opponent ends on mass backrow removal, so once they have a board you have nothing to fear but Duster exactly.
Among Hidden Blast, Ring of Destruction, Just Desserts, Mahaama, etc. you can deal over 8000 damage pretty consistently before you die yourself.
I think my favorite part of the podcast is how often Josh and the guests are to shut farfa down when he’s goin yap mode. While also being able to take him seriously when he is bringing good discussion has got to be a tough balance
While we talked about the OCG players's positive mindsets, did you know that Japan shops have to ban Zoodiac (back when the deck was a tier 0 deck) and Mystic Mine themselves so thay can maintaince the players?
As a casual player, I'm not sure I actually want gem rewards for DC 2nd stage. It's already gruelling enough having to grind against meta decks to hit DLv 20. It's not that I don't enjoy facing meta decks, but if you have to play a lot in a row the fun definitely goes away. Most of the time I just go up to lv 18-19 and then just drop it.
For the duelist cup if I play I just grind the gem rewards, thats it. As someone with a full time job with the current system I could never hope to compete with a teenager with 3 days off school, so I would say i play it casually.
I wish I had friends like you guys
hi i think im part of Farfa's mentioned casual-competitive demographic of players. i play an hour a day just to have fun but also i have the skill to hit master 1 if i wanted to, i just dont play enough games in the month to actually reach it. which is also why i dont really try in the DC, i'd go insane with that many hours invested, so im fine with top 1000. ask me anything :)
Surely we get Raymond Dai in as well to complete the Team 7 trio on the podcast
Thank you for having Ryan Yu on the podcast but his mic make him pretty hard to hear
and again you guys had an interesting podcast to listen to.
For the issue you had about casual, competitive and the things between... I personally do not have this isse since I started to categorize differntly.
For me there are now only players and competitors. Since a few months ago I start to avoid the terms casual and competitive. Not because I think that they are wrong, but more so because it is hard to see the line between those two in a "competitive" game by nature.
What I mean by that is simple. YGO is a 2-Player 1v1 game where only 1 of the players can a achieve a victory condition. So the game is basicly by the rules competitive due to the fact you strive for this victory condition before your opponent can reach it.
Only my two cents for that.
I know this one is 9 months old now, but I listen to these on Spotify(where you cant comment) but Ryans mic here made this episode unlistenable. Love having guests in and will never expect everyone to have a streamer tier mic, but please for any future guests make sure their mic quality won't make our ears bleed. Love the podcast tho and will keep listening on spotify!
I play on Xbox and mobile. I don't have a pc, and it's much more convenient to play on Xbox than on mobile for me
Mobile is obviously terrible so I don't blame you. I imagine you don't lose to swords if revealing light XD
@cheesycheese7100 I've never lost to swords. Only lose to Maxx c mainly and occasional misplays. But if I'm being serious I didn't know I could turn crossplay off on Xbox until a few months ago. I still don't even know where the option for that is lol
Konami really should sponsor this guy with a microphone 😂
What does Josh means when he says “they won’t have to go second when they face me”? Isn’t d cup best of 1?
I can 100% agree with farfa on the causal playtime debate. In order to play casual, you have to enjoy the game. I'm logging on and seeing anything about gems being given tournament or not. I'm 100% grinding to max out the amount being offered because I enjoy the game as a causal player. The difficulty only plays a part to people who are either above or below that causal standard💯
what a nice young man
Ryan kicked my ass one day with my terrible Gishki Atlantean deck and he was playing trick star lol
What's his mic oh no
3 crazy good players in a row as guests, it's time for a 4th... ruxin34
MBT
A pod cast I had to watch with sub titles still loving the guest tho 😂
First commenter! Love these discussions about the game.
I agree with Farfa, Im a casual (but I have won some OTS's). I play meta decks but sometimes play two or three games per day. When events happen I grind them to get the rewards but in the case of the Duelist Cup I just get to lvl 20 because the rewards are like legacy packs and irrelevant shit. If there were some cool cosmetics or gems involved in the 72 hour grind I will likely dedicate at least a day to just play to get those rewards.
You guys kept asking and talking about MD when the real burning question I've had forever was what does he do with his hair to get it like that.
You don’t want that hair
did ryan just get top1 again in DC?
He got top 1 for the first time. Last DC got 3rd.
Once I hit lvl 12 I switched from kash to snake eyes.
This episode was a bit hard to listen to due to Ryan's audio being a bit low and well as Farfa interrupting / cutting off Ryan at times.
a big difference between NA and asian teams in league comes down to infrastructure
I definitely think I'd fall in the casual player realm. I play it every time l, and I always at least get through round 1 for the rewards, but I'm not going to be playing top tier decks for 20 hours a day. Any day 2 play I do is just for fun mostly, cause there aren't good rewards for people that aren't trying to make it to the top of the rankings. I wish I could get more gems from doing it lol
Bruh Ryan just woke up maybe hold these interviews a bit later😅
If you are playing 8+ Hours a day (and I think I went way too far) you are not casually playing anything
I play until 20 then play a few games every day to complete dailies cause you can't derank and during second stage enough to get into top 10k (I've never needed to win more than 20 games), and I thought that was a tad above casual lmao
Ryan is the cutest thing ever
My 🐐
theres two kinds of casuals. id consider me and my friends casuals but weve all played until dlvl17 at least. the gem rewards are nice and progression is steady, you can do it with basically any deck. the real challenge starts from there. some are open to it, others are not. stage 2 is like whatever, if you dont intend to grind theres no reason to play this over ranked
Midcore, it's called midcore.
if you play casually the duelist cup 2nd stage you play for 30 minutes until you hit the top 20k never again open the duelist cup and then realize that you got pushed out of the minimum rank requirement to get rewards. but in therms of a content creator did farfa probably play casually as those need to put in way more time into master duel anyways
Mr. Yu needs to project his words outward.
Farfa is extremely tone-deaf and horrible at reading the room. Ryan did NOT want to hear about how people were "furious" about his personal decisions. Leave the kid alone bro tf.
I watch more ads than content
The only way to get Konami to change the Duelist Cup away from this psychotic 72 hour marathon is to report them to the government. The danger duelists are in is bad enough to get someone seriously hurt and only the government will get Konami to change this stupid event because Duel Links players have been screaming at them for 7 years about this and it’s gone on deaf ears.
What a dramatic little girl you are lmao
@@rezzytheskyguydramatic? If you think playing 72 hours continuously is okay, you are on drugs.
@@superpolymerization4169 "report the game company to the government" Lol
@@rezzytheskyguy oh i get it
Tcg players like you are completely fine with komoeny completely recking them with insane prices unrealistic rarities
To your surprise thats how not it works in the rest of the world
There are anti gambling laws and laws dedicated to such addictive behaviors mainly in china but in japan too
USA simply doesn’t have laws to regulate companies thats why every a card that is a 3 of is a secret rare base rarity
@@rezzytheskyguy and reporting to the government does work
Maybe not in your country that is ruled by companies
You gotta lock up when a chinese player reported mihoyo for scamming because they made a skin that costs money free
I play on xbox
As an Xbox/console user I can enjoy playing Master Duel through it it good play it and I know I'm a very competent duelist that reach on the high ladder.
The bashing on console players is not appreciated
They aren't, don't worry. It was just how that specific scenario played out, while exclusively playing amongst a smaller player base
Bro took it personally lol
@@UncleMerlinI mean how do I not I play on console and I'm not boomer player with swords of revealing light or it's not like I don't know how to get around swords when knightmare Phoenix exist or harpies feather duster is a card
@@gerardonava8911it's a fact that the console demographic is less competitive than the PC demographic for master duel specifically. you don't have to get bent out of shape just because you specifically play on console. that would be like someone that shares a locals with Jesse Cotton getting mad that someone says winning locals is easier than a high tier event
I’m also an Xbox player, trust me bro us Xbox players that can actually hit diamond+ are the exception, you gotta admit the competition is just not the same.
Why shame people who play on Xbox? Not everyone has a computer.
Please someone do something about his hair
Lmaoo
FARFA. STOP INTERRUPTING YOUR GUESTS. GODDAMN.
I think the best system would be to limit the amount of games you can play. This would keep people from staying awake for 3 days straight, and also is still fair for slower decks. If you limit the amount of time you can play each day, then it really hurts slower decks like lab or runic. Having a set amount of games is the hest of both worlds.
If you give each game about 20 minutes, then limiting each player to something like 24 games a day means people wont be playing for longer than 8 hours a day.
Bro, is that a bunkbed? Lol, he has a geography map on the wall. Not at all how I would imagine his room to look at 19. Someone needs to do some upgrading 😂. This kid has always been super shy sounding and quiet-ish. Glad, to see he is still around as a player. I hope he makes the most of college. I can definitely see him in tech support for sure. (No, I am not stating that because he's Asian.) 😂😂😂😂
He's a student. He's probably I'm a dorm
@@jeremydyar7566 they giving them some small ass rooms lol. Nah, just doesn't have that look. Looks more like a house room, but eh. I wouldn't know for sure I got peeps living the dorm life, but I never did. Although, a lot of people nowadays just do community colleges etc. You can even do college online now.
Can’t watch this episode. Audio is trash.
Honestly though
no it not.
Get over it