I’m glad you said that about the VH final boss. It’s a brutal encounter that can wipe even experienced teams and takes forever. Over half of the dungeon time wise is that boss. No need to do both rooms to get to dps either. Just a slog of an encounter. I think once everyone gets their ice breakers, there will be a massive drop in people playing it
Finally someone to comment on Vesper's final boss. I can do EVERYTHING perfectly fine besides the final boss. I think I have only died to one shot lightning strikes I can't see, it just gets really disheartening to want to keep making attempts. I've done every dungeon solo flawless, and this boss makes Ghosts of the Deep blush in terms of the final boss.
Verity is one of the most interesting and engaging encounters I have ever played in D2. Its so thrilling making progress and a bit entertaining putting the pieces in as well as doing the ghost rezzes. But dear lord, only problem I have is how BRUTAL wiping or slipping up is. Even after contest and a couple weeks, it felt so devastating to fail.
Thanks for the GM Guides Mac. I got my Conqueror Guilded 😊 I tried doing the Liminality Orb run like you said though dunno how you shoot them so Fast. I tried and couldn’t do it haha. Another Teammate did the Orb Run for us
Yes. Love the mechanics, they're fun mechanics but they end up feeling overused when I have to keep doing way too many of these phases just to get to DPS.
@@ExWitDaFacts Yes, cause at least Garden is just a little bit more than just AD clear. At least they tried. I will mention though, Im throughouly disappointed for each time Bungie messed up trying to make the Vex interesting. For example I was more disappointed with Episode 1 than I was with Curse of Osiris story wise. We could've had a sentient vex mind, questioning reality itself like some sort of Age of Ultron moment. But no we got a younger version of Maya/Lakshmi with a smoker voice, going on a murderous rampage, acting smart, while being the dumbest character i've witnessed by murdering the real version of her wife, mixed with love gay story number 8087.
I agree its a bit too hated, but saying its the best vex themed content we have isn't saying much imo. Never been too big on the vex stories and content, Bungie don't seem to know where to take it.
When I first pop up in the VH boss dps phase, I always think I am being targeted by a lightning strike. It takes me a minute to adjust to all the yellow. I never knew why until you just said that.
Loved Crown because it was like splitting a raid into multiple pairs working together, like it compartmentalized everything. Very unique. Also, hard agree on the Vesper final boss. I find myself more annoyed with it every time I do it.
I like the list and it was well explained. Really liked when you included clips of the encounters, it helped refresh the memory. I had few things I personally would have placed higher/lower, but like you said its your list. However I don't think that I'd put verity even close to S tier strictly because I haven't finished the raid because it is an LFG nightmare. Like don't get me wrong the mechanics are fine, but the dead ghost spectate part where you're only able to see one statue and not all is too much especially when you take in the factor of LFG and not knowing those people enough, language barriers, and having some new people who might not have transmog, etc. So things like that made doing that raid an almost a deterrent or at most i would maybe consider doing all encounter but that. You having a squad you know and can communicate well with might be why you like it better but for me as a mostly LFG raider it was impossible.
to put Warpriest in C its a total disrepesct :)) .. bro that was that boss was a nightmare when Kings Fall come back in D2 , and even this days are LFGs who have problems with it , idk but in my opinion that is one of the iconic bosses of D2 , number 1 been Rhulk cuz that's how it should bee a boss .. MOVE , charge , kicks , lasers beams , not stand still and all team broke him with all they have
honestly vespers host is a bad dungeon. legit rank it very low. first encounter is pretty boring. first boss is annoying to fight with the constant need to get 2 sets of numbers and hard the boss glitching out alot. the last boss is just stupid encounter. when getting the shield down one room is super poorly designed and the radiation guys legit can run at you fast enough to cause an instant unavoidable wipe. the dps phase the lightning is really stupid and zero patterens on top of super hard to see while being shot and meleed by everything so forcing health regen while having a ton of health. horrible dungeon
Mac, when Toland is on the ceiling in Hexahedron, you look at the cube for which side does NOT have a symbol of the Nine. Whatever wall is opposite that side is where you dunk the orb. It goes just as fast as normal if you do this,
It actually doesn't. The main message of progression through the encounter comes in "The realm responds to your actions." If you don't see it, you went backwards one room.
For me, Vespers boss is F tier. Only encounter in any raid/dungeon that has actually had me getting so genuinely annoyed with dps phase that I never want to do that dungeon ever again. I really want Icebreaker, but if I have to do that dungeon to get it, it's not happening. No other encounter IN THE ENTIRE GAME has ever made me feel that way.
Rhulk has to be the most overrated encounter in this game. Outside of the damage phase being cool it’s literally just stand on a plate, call out symbols, then dunk
@@limefish865 Wouldn't say he's overrated. He's as good as everyone says, he has a very specific unique factor that keeps you on your toes. But I do enjoy Gahlran more. His mechanics of splitting people specifically I really enjoyed, and shooting specific limbs. Gahlran was a more "all hands on deck" fight.
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Grap of Avarice isn't mechanically complex, but I think it's Bungie at their best - jaunty, trollish, cheeky - you can tell they had fun making it.
I wish some of these raids came back, I never played during their time but it would be nice to try them out.
I’m glad you said that about the VH final boss. It’s a brutal encounter that can wipe even experienced teams and takes forever. Over half of the dungeon time wise is that boss. No need to do both rooms to get to dps either. Just a slog of an encounter. I think once everyone gets their ice breakers, there will be a massive drop in people playing it
Finally someone to comment on Vesper's final boss. I can do EVERYTHING perfectly fine besides the final boss. I think I have only died to one shot lightning strikes I can't see, it just gets really disheartening to want to keep making attempts.
I've done every dungeon solo flawless, and this boss makes Ghosts of the Deep blush in terms of the final boss.
Verity is one of the most interesting and engaging encounters I have ever played in D2. Its so thrilling making progress and a bit entertaining putting the pieces in as well as doing the ghost rezzes. But dear lord, only problem I have is how BRUTAL wiping or slipping up is. Even after contest and a couple weeks, it felt so devastating to fail.
Thanks for the GM Guides Mac. I got my Conqueror Guilded 😊 I tried doing the Liminality Orb run like you said though dunno how you shoot them so Fast. I tried and couldn’t do it haha. Another Teammate did the Orb Run for us
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100% agreee with the corrupted pupetter
I hate the time that it takes to get to dps phase
Yes. Love the mechanics, they're fun mechanics but they end up feeling overused when I have to keep doing way too many of these phases just to get to DPS.
@@pencilswordfishhonestly I find it really fun with a group because of everyone having a buff to do something with, but solo is an absolute nightmare.
Garden to me is a little bit over hated. To me Garden is the best vex themed content we got, very cool place asthetically.
You saying Garden is betterthan Vault? Oh my
@@ExWitDaFacts Yes, cause at least Garden is just a little bit more than just AD clear. At least they tried.
I will mention though, Im throughouly disappointed for each time Bungie messed up trying to make the Vex interesting.
For example
I was more disappointed with Episode 1 than I was with Curse of Osiris story wise. We could've had a sentient vex mind, questioning reality itself like some sort of Age of Ultron moment. But no we got a younger version of Maya/Lakshmi with a smoker voice, going on a murderous rampage, acting smart, while being the dumbest character i've witnessed by murdering the real version of her wife, mixed with love gay story number 8087.
I agree its a bit too hated, but saying its the best vex themed content we have isn't saying much imo. Never been too big on the vex stories and content, Bungie don't seem to know where to take it.
When I first pop up in the VH boss dps phase, I always think I am being targeted by a lightning strike. It takes me a minute to adjust to all the yellow. I never knew why until you just said that.
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I want scourge and leviathan back bad man
Me too, I want Those old leviathan shaders. I was too intimidated by the raid then, now I desperately want to try it
Verity is the GOAT
Loved Crown because it was like splitting a raid into multiple pairs working together, like it compartmentalized everything. Very unique.
Also, hard agree on the Vesper final boss. I find myself more annoyed with it every time I do it.
appreciate the amount of love gahlran is getting. that encounter should be the baseline to what a raid encounter should be
The leviathan raid(s) is bungies ace in the whole. I know its gonna come back eventually.
I only have a problem with the attendants on herald because I have to bring to healing things on my warlock to survive a flock of them. Im bad I know
Shattered Throne is F.
I like the list and it was well explained. Really liked when you included clips of the encounters, it helped refresh the memory. I had few things I personally would have placed higher/lower, but like you said its your list. However I don't think that I'd put verity even close to S tier strictly because I haven't finished the raid because it is an LFG nightmare. Like don't get me wrong the mechanics are fine, but the dead ghost spectate part where you're only able to see one statue and not all is too much especially when you take in the factor of LFG and not knowing those people enough, language barriers, and having some new people who might not have transmog, etc. So things like that made doing that raid an almost a deterrent or at most i would maybe consider doing all encounter but that. You having a squad you know and can communicate well with might be why you like it better but for me as a mostly LFG raider it was impossible.
i hope they bring these raids back even if it’s in pantheon
I NEED Gahlran back.
Wraith of the machines is coming back soon…
to put Warpriest in C its a total disrepesct :)) .. bro that was that boss was a nightmare when Kings Fall come back in D2 , and even this days are LFGs who have problems with it , idk but in my opinion that is one of the iconic bosses of D2 , number 1 been Rhulk cuz that's how it should bee a boss .. MOVE , charge , kicks , lasers beams , not stand still and all team broke him with all they have
honestly vespers host is a bad dungeon. legit rank it very low. first encounter is pretty boring. first boss is annoying to fight with the constant need to get 2 sets of numbers and hard the boss glitching out alot. the last boss is just stupid encounter. when getting the shield down one room is super poorly designed and the radiation guys legit can run at you fast enough to cause an instant unavoidable wipe. the dps phase the lightning is really stupid and zero patterens on top of super hard to see while being shot and meleed by everything so forcing health regen while having a ton of health. horrible dungeon
Thank you for my opinion
Mac, when Toland is on the ceiling in Hexahedron, you look at the cube for which side does NOT have a symbol of the Nine. Whatever wall is opposite that side is where you dunk the orb. It goes just as fast as normal if you do this,
It actually doesn't. The main message of progression through the encounter comes in "The realm responds to your actions." If you don't see it, you went backwards one room.
With my 290 prophecy runs I can say with certainty: Nope,it doesn't work that way.
For me, Vespers boss is F tier. Only encounter in any raid/dungeon that has actually had me getting so genuinely annoyed with dps phase that I never want to do that dungeon ever again. I really want Icebreaker, but if I have to do that dungeon to get it, it's not happening. No other encounter IN THE ENTIRE GAME has ever made me feel that way.
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If there isn’t a hive boss in S tier its a sht list
there is no world where Gahlran is above the Witness fight.
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There's no way he put fucking Ghalran over Rhulk
Rhulk has to be the most overrated encounter in this game. Outside of the damage phase being cool it’s literally just stand on a plate, call out symbols, then dunk
@@limefish865 Wouldn't say he's overrated. He's as good as everyone says, he has a very specific unique factor that keeps you on your toes.
But I do enjoy Gahlran more. His mechanics of splitting people specifically I really enjoyed, and shooting specific limbs. Gahlran was a more "all hands on deck" fight.
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