I agree with you, Micah. Even the grinder eventually cuts through the lock, it would be after several discs, a lot of noise and the chance to get caught. In my opinion, the lock delivers on it’s promise.
Remember you need to fill cuts. The first cut doesn't do much. So a total of 10 discs. A second lock would take even more discs due to fatigue of holding the grinder. And another battery.
Also you have to cut through both sides of the lock to get it off the bike, I've seen people take 5 blades to get through both sides with a mains operated grinder which a thief wont have on the side of the road. Awesome lock.
@@larryc1616 My ebike was stolen on Monday which was locked with a Kryptonite Evolution lock. I was only in the supermarket for no more than 5 minutes and when I came back all that was left was my lock in 2 pieces. Looks like they used an angle grinder on it. The kryptonite locks can be cut very quickly with angle grinders so now I looking for a grinder proof lock because my work as a food delivery guy is reliant on my ebike.
@manoz6194 the 13mm evolution is too thin. Get one with a diamond rating like the 18mm NY kryptonite. Use a disk brake lock with alarm too. Add a 3rd chain lock if in a bad neighborhood and Hide an airtag in the battery compartment. Good luck next time!
@@larryc1616 I bought the NY lock but I'm still paranoid about it so I ordered the Litelok X1 too which is actually lighter and specially made for angle grinder use. I got an alarm which is motion detected which is also a light and I've ordered a Galaxy Tag and a holder for the saddle. It's a ebike not a motorbike. I think the thieves were lying in wait
@@manoz6194let us know how the litelock works out I'm thinking of getting it. I'm sorry to hear your bike was stolen, it's unlucky, and it always happens at the worst time!
This is alot more impressive than I expected tbh ,an angle grinder with enough discs will cut through practically anything within reason and this held up far far longer than a normal u lock
I’m planning on getting a bike soon and I was looking for a lock that gives me enough time to catch a thief in time. Will definitely get this lock. Knowing that most thieves are just going to use cheap angle grinders, this is perfect.
Impressive cut resistance. As others have stated, now the lock mechanism itself should be tested by The LPL. I'm also torn between safety and convenience - it seems pretty bulky/heavy, suitable only for a true ebike (too much for my analog bike).
Please clue me how "analog" applies here, assuming you know what the word means, since you'd clearly be using all your digits on it. (Hands & feet) Might go for un-assisted.)
Depends on how much you value your bike. Honestly this lock will likely be a lifetime of use. So might be worth it. And besides as bulky or heavy as it may be it definitely beats walking out of somewhere and finding your bike gone. A nice bike will be lighter and this lock will protect it!
It’s right at 4lbs. So not too bad imo. Has an internal size of 155mm x 92mm, external size of 225mm x 155mm, 20mm thick shackle (including protective coating).
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I agree partially with a person who posted previous to me, there is no such thing on the market 'yet' as an angle grinder proof lock. But still it is very impressive, as I own a couple of e-bikes, one worth at least 6 grand (just in parts) I will definitely be looking into this lock! But I do suggest that anyone who values their e-bike also purchase and install a very loud vibration sensitive alarm, GPS tracking and e-bike insurance. The combination of a great lock (like this one appears to be), a loud alarm and locking it securely in a public area is most of the time effective at deterring thieves. Make sure any alarm you buy is vibration sensitive, placed in a spot that is hard to muffle (like under the seat facing up), and secured at a minimum with stainless or coated steel zip ties.
@@djcm6326 That sucks, I doubt I will remember by then. It's crazy how long it takes once something is done being tested even by people on UA-cam before it comes to market.
@@SellingNewYorkCiti Sure, I tested out several different ones from Amazon and the one I really like is a no name wireless vibration sensitive alarm, that lets you choose how sensitive to make it, link at the bottom. It appears there's an updated version to the one in the link, and the alarm is sold by several vendors on Amazon, you might want to check to see if there's a better price. Test it outside and/or with ear protection it's very loud, and can be overly sensitive on the highest setting. I clicked on your pic, nice videos. I would have never thought to use a hammer on a drill to get the hammer drill effect. And great narration, to many DIY videos are not narrated or not narrated with enough detail making them hard to follow. Keep making videos, especially construction / power tool videos there's not enough of those done by females. In my experience, I find the way women explain DIY / working with tools to be much easier to follow, with a much better breakdown of what they are doing and why. I work with power tools everyday and watch many UA-cam videos on it. I am your newest subscriber, I hope you will make many more videos. If there's anything else just let me know, I have built an ebike and 2 recumbent e-trikes, all high powered. My newest recumbent e-trike tops out at 45mph at the moment, soon to be much faster. smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07VB86TT9?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
Good advice. I caught a thief red handed trying to steal my Fiido M1 pro a few months ago. I had only left it for 20 minutes while I went to buy some food. He ran like a scared rat when he saw me. I never leave my bike unattended for more than 30 minutes in public. I have a tracker in it. A very jarring loud alarm. And two bolt cutter proof locks on it. Only someone with an angle grinder might have a chance. And as soon as these HIPLOK d1000s go mainstream. Im getting two of them. I work too hard for my money. To let any low life just take my stuff. To sell on for peanuts to feed their addictions.
Excellent. I'm gonna get a couple of these D1000 locks for my eBikes. At their website they say this lock is around 4 lbs in weight, which is very good for the quality of security it is. Bottom line is it is very, very, very unlikely that a bike thief will have a half dozen high quality cutting discs and 3 or 4 spare fully charged batteries with him that he would need to cut this lock. So yeah, for all intents and purposes this lock is angle grinder proof.
Same, im sure once he makes the first cut after like 4 blades and 3 batteries, before realizing he’ll have to cut the other side as well, then do it all over on the second lock.
I haven't had any HUGE issues with this lock yet! ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxfyHDlEqk6hqu9acdvK5NGzZsGKSokSbv It seems sturdy and like it will get the job done. I really like that it has a twisting lock feature to keep out dirt and debris. However, the mounting system is much too light for the lock, and continues to get loose/move around. It's mostly made of plastic parts, and I've had to tighten it a few times in the past week or so that I've had it. I'm worried that it's going to break off at some point while I'm riding. I'm considering just scrapping that part, but that would mean having to carry the heavy lock i my backpack and adding more weight. I wish I could have given this more stars, but without the mounting system, it's just another heavy lock that I have to cart around. UPDATE: Increased rating to 5 stars because the seller offered to provide a new lock and mounting system. Really appreciate the attention to customer service!!
According to their kickstarter website, the lock is made out of a ceramic composite, which means that it may be vulnerable to a screw spreader attack, as the material is more brittle than metal. Still, in order to use a screw spreader, you have to be able to fit it between the bars of the lock, so if you lock your bike in such a way that there is no room for it, you are still good. Another possible attack would be a hydraulic cutter, which might shatter the material. The LPL has used one of these on steel locks, so maybe he would be able to try it on this one when you send it.
How about "Jaws of Life" hydraulic kit? Rather than BFI (brute force & ignorance) mechanical approaches. Professional bike thieves could easily carry it in their van. And it's QUIET. OTOH, how 'bout we legally mandate VIN code on multiple locations on any valuable vehicle. If you can't fence it, why bother stealing it? Any lock would then be just an inconvenience factor and a "flag" that you're in the wrong line of work.
A hydraulic cutter or simply a hydraulic crimper with a custom die set would probably do it. Likewise, I wonder how it'd fare against a nut splitter if it's a brittle material.
Truly appreciate this video and saved it for future reference! can't praise you enough for educating us with non-promotional ideas and products. Good on Hiplok for sending you a lock as promo.
dont forget that the lock is locked on both sides of the shackle, so that means they would have to make two full cuts in order to get the lock off the bike.
I would have wanted to see what happens when you are through, if the lock is still rigid enough to be difficult to open up any gaps on it to be able to remove it from something it is attached to. Because it would be amazing if one would be required to cut two sides of it of, or bend on it even after cutting into one side.
You will have to make two cuts to get it off, unless one very thick cut and managed to use a pry bar to bend (or crack) it further open. I would call that twice as good but not at all amazing, since if they can complete one cut, they can use same method for a 2nd cut, simply taking twice as long and that difference might be more than enough to make the thief move on, OR it might make them just start cutting the bike away from the lock instead of the lock away from the bike to at least get something for their efforts.
A key to locking the bike is to place the lock so it's difficult to hammer against the ground. It would not be fixed as it is in this test, so would taka longer still if the test had been in situ
Looks like a genuine deterrent to bike thieves. I think they would look for easier and faster targets. Time and equipment needed would put this way down their list of targets in my opinion. Great demonstration, thank you
Thanks, great video! I laughed when I saw they claimed their lock was angle grinder proof and figured you were going to quickly debunk it. While I think you could eventually have made it through, using who knows how many blades, it would make a huge scene if you were trying to do this somewhere public. And e-bike thieves aren't looking to make a public scene, so unless your bike is stored somewhere out of sight and sound, I'd say they passed the test.
What do you mean by "half of the cut I made was rubber"? Does it mean the lock is mède out of a thick layer of rubber and only then comes the steel which is 50% of the construction? It doesn't make sense what you said.
People mentioning (here, elsewhere) that The Lockpicking Lawyer could likely pick this in minutes, keep in mind he is in the .1% of master lockpickers on the planet. Few, if any bike thieves, even in a city like NY, have his level of skills. Also know, if you see the Lockpicking Lawyer pick this in his home office, that's not the same as being on the street, under potential watchful eyes. Granted, a wizard lock picking bike thief could buy a couple of these legit, learn how to defeat them, then go on a binge picking them.
Neither you will see with angle grinder. But with lockpick i can pretend i am unlocking it. If it survies few min thats good. But i would rather see mcnally. He is expert in showing disappointment 😂 If its rake resistant and no spring spring, it will do.
And from what I understand after you would theoretically cut through one side you actually have to do the same thing on the other side. Now I’ve also heard suggestions that the crossbar part or whatever that’s called might be more vulnerable by drilling into the key area. Either way I have one of these on order.
I wonder what happens when you try different discs than metal disc? Like stone one? Or maybe just hit it with hammer really hard once and then use grinder?
Let me know when they produce a lock that delivers a serious electric shock to anyone trying to tamper with it. I have an idea for a chunky metal lock with an internal moving part that would shatter the grinder disc and prevent bolt cutter jaws from even getting purchase on the lock. Since the lock casing is a number of interlocking sections, replacing that slightly damaged section would be pretty inexpensive.
Also, (and it may have been noted elsewhere..) you will have to cut the other side of the "U" as the lock won't just fall apart with one cut-through. A thief will need maybe 15 wheels and two spare batteries? Nice lock. Spendy but nice. Cheers.
The problem would definitely be the size of the Ulock. You likely wouldn't find any bike post or steel beam to fit that lock on, that couldn't be cut far faster and easier.
I saw another uTube vid (I can’t remember the link) where they eventually cut the lock using 7 blades and the grinder was mains powered. They also tested the lock and it was break proof. But they didn’t pick it.
I'm late to the party, but that's impressive! But you have to start the party w/ two intros: "Best angle grinder", and "best discs for cutting buffered tungsten (whatever) alloy." (Serious, big difference in hand tools and replaceables.) I'm thinking the remarkable thick & dense rubber is there to chaff the sides of the cutting disc wasting a large amount of what should be cutting energy as useless friction. (Hense, "buffered" alloy.) Nicely done!
I bought a Dx1000 for the body , a Litlok for the front wheel , a Kryptonite Evolution for the back wheel, and a small Ulock for the peddle crank to bottom beam lock. I learned to overdo my bike's security after my first bike was stolen from me using a whimpy wire lock. I'm also registered with 529, I'm looking for a gps tracker and I'm probably gonna insure my bike. I'm not driving anymore and with this I have a peace of mind and I can forget I locked my bike outdoors.
Amazing test, but where is the weak point that the crook will get to? Probably where the lock attaches or the lock itself. Please post that video too. Thanks for your wonderful educational videos.
It was learned in the 1980's that extra-large u-locks were much easier to defeat. Leverage and car jacks ruled the day. So the mini u-lock became popular. This is larger than the small mini-u-locks. The whole goal is to provide less purchase and working area for thieves to apply leverage or cutting attacks while at the same time leaving enough room for the consumer to lock a bike. Luckily, this lock would allow you to lock both wheels and the frame of a road bike. By removing the front wheel, placing it next to the rear wheel and running the shackle through both rims & tires and between the chain and seat stays, you lock the frame and wheels in one. This leaves virtually no room for leverage attacks inside the lock itself. The larger the wheel and tire, the less opportunity you have. So it means you have to be creative.
Micah, That was pretty impressive, BUT just like everyone else I want to see LPL attack this. I know he would pick it easily, but I'm more interested in him trying a destructive attack. Great vid.
@@warrenscorner Yes, EXACTLY. The man has a gift to expose the weaknesses that we miss and thieves know. Micah's test sure makes me think this lock is great. If LPL agrees, maybe we can thwart more scumbags from steeling our property.
The LPL IS A TUTOR for bike thieves step by step guide on how defeat and overcome bike lock mechanism, Why do honest bike owners heap glorification on this co conspiratorial SHOW OF
My son just texted me today from Cali 6/8/22 and said someone stole his EBike last night that we just got him in February and just ordered him another one and I need this type of lock,and before watching this vid I had no idea ppl would be walking around with angle grinders stealing bikes
Good video. I think a bike thief would give up after the first cutting disc. I know this lock is heavy and expensive but I guess that's the price you pay for that level of protection.
The Lectric XP bike in background is worth locking up. I have 200 miles on mine, use it 3 days a week when I park 2 miles from the office, spends most of the time folded up in back of my Subaru.
How do you want to use this lock with your bike? The wheels and the frame are too fat and in the lock is not enough space. In what part of your bike it will be locked?
That's quite impressive! I hope the lock is just as impressive at being pick-proof. Micah, send that ruined bike lock over to another UA-camr, LockPickingLawyer, to see how hard it is to pick the lock. If it takes a longer-than-usual time to pick it then I just might buy one! Also, how heavy is that bike lock?
The one issue with this is: What would you actually attach this to? any bike-stand, fence or whatever... none of that would be angle grinder proof as well :)
Yeagh, I'm wondering the same thing after watching the video, which is why I'm worried about spending more than 300.00 for an Ebike, since it seems any one with a little skill and the right tool, could by pass the super lock, by cutting into the fixed bike rack, or fence, but unless you have some other idea, I was wondering what about discouraging a thief by trying to use this super strong lock by locking up the front wheel or back wheel, requring a thief to know how to disassemble one of the wheels, than have to replace it, before tyring to sell it again at there local pawn shop, etc...
Seems pretty tough in fairness! I wonder if you cut away the rubber housing first would that make it easier to access the lock for cutting, and to find the weakest point? The locks I see around the ground are usually cut or grinded, sometimes broken other ways by bending or what looks like some kind of a hydraulic kind of opening. Then there is the less common picking of the locks which probably takes a little more skill than the average criminal. Many locks are really strong in one way but fail in others, it is always worth investing in a lock that can deter thieves from every common angle of attack.
I thought this also but worn down discs are worn down discs - cutting rubber doesnt degrade the disc. Move to another spot if the rubber is in the way, it's all got to be cut. Great product
How does it compare to the ABUS GRAN¡T EXTREME? Cause I bought that one in 2019 . It’s insane cause little over a year later the ALTOR SAF Released and my granit extreme fell to second place. Now that the D1000 is out is it stronger? Or more light weight?
The rubber stops alot of the grinding so iff they went further and used the ribber in them big electrical wires that are self sealing iff they used rhat it would just keep chewing thr blade up
I agree with you, Micah.
Even the grinder eventually cuts through the lock, it would be after several discs, a lot of noise and the chance to get caught. In my opinion, the lock delivers on it’s promise.
Remember you need to fill cuts. The first cut doesn't do much. So a total of 10 discs.
A second lock would take even more discs due to fatigue of holding the grinder. And another battery.
Also you have to cut through both sides of the lock to get it off the bike, I've seen people take 5 blades to get through both sides with a mains operated grinder which a thief wont have on the side of the road. Awesome lock.
Not to mention it looks like it took nearly two full battery charges.
Most thieves dont even care any more, they know the cops arent wasting time on these calls.should have a frag explosive in it, true protection
You didn't mention that you would have to do that twice, because it's dual shackle. You have to cut through both sides to remove the bike.
Yup just like the NY Kryptonite U lock. You need to cut 2x with multiple change of disks and batteries.
@@larryc1616 My ebike was stolen on Monday which was locked with a Kryptonite Evolution lock. I was only in the supermarket for no more than 5 minutes and when I came back all that was left was my lock in 2 pieces. Looks like they used an angle grinder on it. The kryptonite locks can be cut very quickly with angle grinders so now I looking for a grinder proof lock because my work as a food delivery guy is reliant on my ebike.
@manoz6194 the 13mm evolution is too thin. Get one with a diamond rating like the 18mm NY kryptonite. Use a disk brake lock with alarm too. Add a 3rd chain lock if in a bad neighborhood and Hide an airtag in the battery compartment. Good luck next time!
@@larryc1616 I bought the NY lock but I'm still paranoid about it so I ordered the Litelok X1 too which is actually lighter and specially made for angle grinder use. I got an alarm which is motion detected which is also a light and I've ordered a Galaxy Tag and a holder for the saddle. It's a ebike not a motorbike. I think the thieves were lying in wait
@@manoz6194let us know how the litelock works out I'm thinking of getting it. I'm sorry to hear your bike was stolen, it's unlucky, and it always happens at the worst time!
This is alot more impressive than I expected tbh ,an angle grinder with enough discs will cut through practically anything within reason and this held up far far longer than a normal u lock
Now looking to buy one of these. I've been looking for this level of peace of mind and, it's been reviewed by you, I think I can trust it.
I’m planning on getting a bike soon and I was looking for a lock that gives me enough time to catch a thief in time. Will definitely get this lock. Knowing that most thieves are just going to use cheap angle grinders, this is perfect.
Impressive cut resistance. As others have stated, now the lock mechanism itself should be tested by The LPL. I'm also torn between safety and convenience - it seems pretty bulky/heavy, suitable only for a true ebike (too much for my analog bike).
Seems like a good lock that you would use on a condo or apartment bike room or rack near your car parking spot.
Please clue me how "analog" applies here, assuming you know what the word means, since you'd clearly be using all your digits on it. (Hands & feet) Might go for un-assisted.)
put it in your backpack thats where i' have always put my u lock not this hiplock though.
Depends on how much you value your bike. Honestly this lock will likely be a lifetime of use. So might be worth it.
And besides as bulky or heavy as it may be it definitely beats walking out of somewhere and finding your bike gone. A nice bike will be lighter and this lock will protect it!
It’s right at 4lbs. So not too bad imo. Has an internal size of 155mm x 92mm, external size of 225mm x 155mm, 20mm thick shackle (including protective coating).
I’m new to the channel, but really enjoying the content. At age 52, my knees aren’t what they used to be, and biking has become rare. So, I’ve been looking into Ebikes for assistance with uphill slopes. I’m learning quite a bit here, and not just about bikes. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, and making it easy to grasp. 🤠👍
ebiking is fun!! just be careful where you store or park it. They are worth money and easy to steal.
Same, but I'm 19 and I'm just using them so I can reach my dad's house without needing a car or money for gas
I agree partially with a person who posted previous to me, there is no such thing on the market 'yet' as an angle grinder proof lock. But still it is very impressive, as I own a couple of e-bikes, one worth at least 6 grand (just in parts) I will definitely be looking into this lock! But I do suggest that anyone who values their e-bike also purchase and install a very loud vibration sensitive alarm, GPS tracking and e-bike insurance. The combination of a great lock (like this one appears to be), a loud alarm and locking it securely in a public area is most of the time effective at deterring thieves. Make sure any alarm you buy is vibration sensitive, placed in a spot that is hard to muffle (like under the seat facing up), and secured at a minimum with stainless or coated steel zip ties.
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@@djcm6326 That sucks, I doubt I will remember by then. It's crazy how long it takes once something is done being tested even by people on UA-cam before it comes to market.
Could you recommend an alarm
@@SellingNewYorkCiti Sure, I tested out several different ones from Amazon and the one I really like is a no name wireless vibration sensitive alarm, that lets you choose how sensitive to make it, link at the bottom. It appears there's an updated version to the one in the link, and the alarm is sold by several vendors on Amazon, you might want to check to see if there's a better price. Test it outside and/or with ear protection it's very loud, and can be overly sensitive on the highest setting.
I clicked on your pic, nice videos. I would have never thought to use a hammer on a drill to get the hammer drill effect. And great narration, to many DIY videos are not narrated or not narrated with enough detail making them hard to follow. Keep making videos, especially construction / power tool videos there's not enough of those done by females. In my experience, I find the way women explain DIY / working with tools to be much easier to follow, with a much better breakdown of what they are doing and why. I work with power tools everyday and watch many UA-cam videos on it. I am your newest subscriber, I hope you will make many more videos.
If there's anything else just let me know, I have built an ebike and 2 recumbent e-trikes, all high powered. My newest recumbent e-trike tops out at 45mph at the moment, soon to be much faster.
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Good advice. I caught a thief red handed trying to steal my Fiido M1 pro a few months ago. I had only left it for 20 minutes while I went to buy some food.
He ran like a scared rat when he saw me. I never leave my bike unattended for more than 30 minutes in public. I have a tracker in it. A very jarring loud alarm. And two bolt cutter proof locks on it.
Only someone with an angle grinder might have a chance. And as soon as these HIPLOK d1000s go mainstream. Im getting two of them.
I work too hard for my money. To let any low life just take my stuff. To sell on for peanuts to feed their addictions.
Excellent. I'm gonna get a couple of these D1000 locks for my eBikes. At their website they say this lock is around 4 lbs in weight, which is very good for the quality of security it is. Bottom line is it is very, very, very unlikely that a bike thief will have a half dozen high quality cutting discs and 3 or 4 spare fully charged batteries with him that he would need to cut this lock. So yeah, for all intents and purposes this lock is angle grinder proof.
how wrong one's assumptions can be...heh
Same, im sure once he makes the first cut after like 4 blades and 3 batteries, before realizing he’ll have to cut the other side as well, then do it all over on the second lock.
@@LateNightFire Obviously just cut whatever the bike is locked onto in what?.. 30 seconds instead?
@@TobyLerone76most thieves aren’t thinking about that
@@TobyLerone76and if you put this lock around the wheel+ frame it wouldnt be rideable, granted thieves would still try.
I haven't had any HUGE issues with this lock yet! ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxfyHDlEqk6hqu9acdvK5NGzZsGKSokSbv It seems sturdy and like it will get the job done. I really like that it has a twisting lock feature to keep out dirt and debris. However, the mounting system is much too light for the lock, and continues to get loose/move around. It's mostly made of plastic parts, and I've had to tighten it a few times in the past week or so that I've had it. I'm worried that it's going to break off at some point while I'm riding. I'm considering just scrapping that part, but that would mean having to carry the heavy lock i my backpack and adding more weight. I wish I could have given this more stars, but without the mounting system, it's just another heavy lock that I have to cart around. UPDATE: Increased rating to 5 stars because the seller offered to provide a new lock and mounting system. Really appreciate the attention to customer service!!
I was looking for a great lock for my grandson’s e bike. You did a great video. Thank you
Ron
According to their kickstarter website, the lock is made out of a ceramic composite, which means that it may be vulnerable to a screw spreader attack, as the material is more brittle than metal. Still, in order to use a screw spreader, you have to be able to fit it between the bars of the lock, so if you lock your bike in such a way that there is no room for it, you are still good. Another possible attack would be a hydraulic cutter, which might shatter the material. The LPL has used one of these on steel locks, so maybe he would be able to try it on this one when you send it.
I think it is the same composite as the Challenger 2 tank.
How about "Jaws of Life" hydraulic kit? Rather than BFI (brute force & ignorance) mechanical approaches. Professional bike thieves could easily carry it in their van. And it's QUIET. OTOH, how 'bout we legally mandate VIN code on multiple locations on any valuable vehicle. If you can't fence it, why bother stealing it? Any lock would then be just an inconvenience factor and a "flag" that you're in the wrong line of work.
A hydraulic cutter or simply a hydraulic crimper with a custom die set would probably do it. Likewise, I wonder how it'd fare against a nut splitter if it's a brittle material.
That was just an impresively resistant lock. I love it. Must say that's what I need to keep mom home friday nights!
You did a fantastic job of demonstrating hip log D 1000 with the angle grinders
Truly appreciate this video and saved it for future reference! can't praise you enough for educating us with non-promotional ideas and products. Good on Hiplok for sending you a lock as promo.
You gave that lock a good try, now I know which lock to buy if ever needed, thanks
dont forget that the lock is locked on both sides of the shackle, so that means they would have to make two full cuts in order to get the lock off the bike.
I would have wanted to see what happens when you are through, if the lock is still rigid enough to be difficult to open up any gaps on it to be able to remove it from something it is attached to. Because it would be amazing if one would be required to cut two sides of it of, or bend on it even after cutting into one side.
Came here to say this!
You will have to make two cuts to get it off, unless one very thick cut and managed to use a pry bar to bend (or crack) it further open. I would call that twice as good but not at all amazing, since if they can complete one cut, they can use same method for a 2nd cut, simply taking twice as long and that difference might be more than enough to make the thief move on, OR it might make them just start cutting the bike away from the lock instead of the lock away from the bike to at least get something for their efforts.
That lock is awesome! Thanks for stress testing it for us viewers.
Good deal on not doing sponsored videos and giving honest reviews
A key to locking the bike is to place the lock so it's difficult to hammer against the ground. It would not be fixed as it is in this test, so would taka longer still if the test had been in situ
Where did you but that lock? Ebay/Amazon does not have it
Did you try this on the Lectric XP before you cut it to see how it fits?
Looks like a genuine deterrent to bike thieves. I think they would look for easier and faster targets. Time and equipment needed would put this way down their list of targets in my opinion. Great demonstration, thank you
Thanks, great video! I laughed when I saw they claimed their lock was angle grinder proof and figured you were going to quickly debunk it. While I think you could eventually have made it through, using who knows how many blades, it would make a huge scene if you were trying to do this somewhere public. And e-bike thieves aren't looking to make a public scene, so unless your bike is stored somewhere out of sight and sound, I'd say they passed the test.
I now have a D1000 and now I have peace of mind im certain my bike is going nowhere especially with the motion alarm
was this really a test of the angle grinder blades?
Looks like a worthy challenger to the Altor SAF lock.
What do you mean by "half of the cut I made was rubber"? Does it mean the lock is mède out of a thick layer of rubber and only then comes the steel which is 50% of the construction? It doesn't make sense what you said.
People mentioning (here, elsewhere) that The Lockpicking Lawyer could likely pick this in minutes, keep in mind he is in the .1% of master lockpickers on the planet. Few, if any bike thieves, even in a city like NY, have his level of skills.
Also know, if you see the Lockpicking Lawyer pick this in his home office, that's not the same as being on the street, under potential watchful eyes. Granted, a wizard lock picking bike thief could buy a couple of these legit, learn how to defeat them, then go on a binge picking them.
Neither you will see with angle grinder. But with lockpick i can pretend i am unlocking it.
If it survies few min thats good.
But i would rather see mcnally. He is expert in showing disappointment 😂
If its rake resistant and no spring spring, it will do.
What if you used a diamond cutting disc?
I actually would've liked to see where do you use it on the bike to lock it down. Can it go through the rear tire and frame?
Wow! If they have a bigger D-lock for Ebikes, I’m definitely going to look into getting one
did you use grind or cut disks
and you use diamond disks?
And from what I understand after you would theoretically cut through one side you actually have to do the same thing on the other side. Now I’ve also heard suggestions that the crossbar part or whatever that’s called might be more vulnerable by drilling into the key area. Either way I have one of these on order.
from what i have seen from other UA-camrs you only have todo one side on this lock but im okay with that with how long it takes just todo one side
I wonder what happens when you try different discs than metal disc? Like stone one? Or maybe just hit it with hammer really hard once and then use grinder?
Let me know when they produce a lock that delivers a serious electric shock to anyone trying to tamper with it. I have an idea for a chunky metal lock with an internal moving part that would shatter the grinder disc and prevent bolt cutter jaws from even getting purchase on the lock. Since the lock casing is a number of interlocking sections, replacing that slightly damaged section would be pretty inexpensive.
Just curious to what type of blade you chose to cut the lock?
Hi, interesting but what sort of key is used ? That might be the weakest point.
Also, (and it may have been noted elsewhere..) you will have to cut the other side of the "U" as the lock won't just fall apart with one cut-through. A thief will need maybe 15 wheels and two spare batteries? Nice lock. Spendy but nice. Cheers.
Try Diablo metal cutting blade on the Hip lock
What does The Lockpicking Lawyer say about this lock?
The problem would definitely be the size of the Ulock. You likely wouldn't find any bike post or steel beam to fit that lock on, that couldn't be cut far faster and easier.
Take off the silicone sleeve to increase the area for locking.
Might be quicker to cut through the metal pipe the lock is attached too?
Did you disconnect the battery for safety or did you have to Change the battery as it was flat from the grinding
I saw another uTube vid (I can’t remember the link) where they eventually cut the lock using 7 blades and the grinder was mains powered. They also tested the lock and it was break proof. But they didn’t pick it.
I'm late to the party, but that's impressive! But you have to start the party w/ two intros: "Best angle grinder", and "best discs for cutting buffered tungsten (whatever) alloy." (Serious, big difference in hand tools and replaceables.) I'm thinking the remarkable thick & dense rubber is there to chaff the sides of the cutting disc wasting a large amount of what should be cutting energy as useless friction. (Hense, "buffered" alloy.) Nicely done!
Would you be able to use that lock on the bike next to you in thr video? Seems like the main frame is too thick
I bought a Dx1000 for the body , a Litlok for the front wheel , a Kryptonite Evolution for the back wheel, and a small Ulock for the peddle crank to bottom beam lock.
I learned to overdo my bike's security after my first bike was stolen from me using a whimpy wire lock. I'm also registered with 529, I'm looking for a gps tracker and I'm probably gonna insure my bike.
I'm not driving anymore and with this I have a peace of mind and I can forget I locked my bike outdoors.
So it's very difficult to cut through it, but what about picking the lock?
Amazing test, but where is the weak point that the crook will get to? Probably where the lock attaches or the lock itself. Please post that video too. Thanks for your wonderful educational videos.
What if you used the angle grinder on the base of the this U lock (not on the "U" part). Would it be able to cut through?
Thanks, but it only has 6" of space to lock to something. Isn't that going to greatly reduce the possibilities of what you can lock it to?
It was learned in the 1980's that extra-large u-locks were much easier to defeat. Leverage and car jacks ruled the day. So the mini u-lock became popular. This is larger than the small mini-u-locks.
The whole goal is to provide less purchase and working area for thieves to apply leverage or cutting attacks while at the same time leaving enough room for the consumer to lock a bike.
Luckily, this lock would allow you to lock both wheels and the frame of a road bike. By removing the front wheel, placing it next to the rear wheel and running the shackle through both rims & tires and between the chain and seat stays, you lock the frame and wheels in one. This leaves virtually no room for leverage attacks inside the lock itself.
The larger the wheel and tire, the less opportunity you have. So it means you have to be creative.
I wonder how a crowbar would work at bending/breaking the lock once over halfway cut?
Did you use regular or diamond edge disks on the angle grinder?
6-1/2" blade test please lol 4" seems too small
Micah, That was pretty impressive, BUT just like everyone else I want to see LPL attack this. I know he would pick it easily, but I'm more interested in him trying a destructive attack. Great vid.
But he has those special tools that nobody else has. I would like to see him go at locks like your average thief would.
@@warrenscorner Yes, EXACTLY. The man has a gift to expose the weaknesses that we miss and thieves know. Micah's test sure makes me think this lock is great. If LPL agrees, maybe we can thwart more scumbags from steeling our property.
The LPL IS A TUTOR for bike thieves step by step guide on how defeat and overcome bike lock mechanism,
Why do honest bike owners heap glorification on this co conspiratorial SHOW OF
"Keep in mind these are high quality angle grinder discs made in Japan" - LPL after going through like butter.
What about the other end of it? Or the gap where it latches?
but where exactly would you put that lock on your bike? it doesnt look big enough to make it around the cross bar
You can get pipe cutters and cut directly through the pipe that the lock is secured to, I seen it happen the other week lol
What’s your opinion of disk brake rotor locks??
I guess a lot is going to depend on the grinder cutting through whatever you attach the lock to.
I think so yess
That's when a motion alarm becomes handy
My son just texted me today from Cali 6/8/22 and said someone stole his EBike last night that we just got him in February and just ordered him another one and I need this type of lock,and before watching this vid I had no idea ppl would be walking around with angle grinders stealing bikes
can you try the lock with the ryobi electric bolt cutters?
Cool just ordering an e bike and looking for a locking system. Any recommendations?
That was five months ago and there’s still a waiting list I wonder if this lock will ever be available
Ok this is a strong lock, but it seems too small to fit around the bike and what you're securing it to. Needs to be bigger?
I'd be interested in the LPL test too. But for a grinder attack, why not use a diamond blade on it instead of the standard cheap metal cutting ones?
I have to say that is an impressive lock. Wonder how the Folylock Forever would hold up?
Okay. I'm definitely purchasing this 'U' Hiplock. Badazz hard steel. Great video.
love ur videos used to watch it when i was in chicago and u were in israel and now im watching u from israel . im so glad ur doing so well!!!
Good video. I think a bike thief would give up after the first cutting disc. I know this lock is heavy and expensive but I guess that's the price you pay for that level of protection.
The Lectric XP bike in background is worth locking up. I have 200 miles on mine, use it 3 days a week when I park 2 miles from the office, spends most of the time folded up in back of my Subaru.
Would it be easier to cut where the key goes
How do you want to use this lock with your bike? The wheels and the frame are too fat and in the lock is not enough space. In what part of your bike it will be locked?
so is it more worth to buy this than any chainlock?
Where to buy this lock ?thank you
The second wheel looks more like a grinding wheel and not a "cutoff" wheel or?
I'm curious what would have happened if you hit the core up with some liquid CO2 (or CO2 fire extinguisher) then hit it with a hammer?
I’m sold.
That's quite impressive! I hope the lock is just as impressive at being pick-proof.
Micah, send that ruined bike lock over to another UA-camr, LockPickingLawyer, to see how hard it is to pick the lock.
If it takes a longer-than-usual time to pick it then I just might buy one!
Also, how heavy is that bike lock?
What about alarm lockers? Great work, hope to get the book.
The one issue with this is: What would you actually attach this to? any bike-stand, fence or whatever... none of that would be angle grinder proof as well :)
Yeagh, I'm wondering the same thing after watching the video, which is why I'm worried about spending more than 300.00 for an Ebike, since it seems
any one with a little skill and the right tool, could by pass the super lock, by cutting into the fixed bike rack, or fence, but unless you have some other idea,
I was wondering what about discouraging a thief by trying to use this super strong lock by locking up the front wheel or back wheel, requring a thief to know how
to disassemble one of the wheels, than have to replace it, before tyring to sell it again at there local pawn shop, etc...
I don't remember getting the notice for this video. Good content and Be Well.
is that the lectric xp 2.0 or lite?
I have to say, that's a pretty impressive deterrent.
Seems pretty tough in fairness! I wonder if you cut away the rubber housing first would that make it easier to access the lock for cutting, and to find the weakest point?
The locks I see around the ground are usually cut or grinded, sometimes broken other ways by bending or what looks like some kind of a hydraulic kind of opening.
Then there is the less common picking of the locks which probably takes a little more skill than the average criminal.
Many locks are really strong in one way but fail in others, it is always worth investing in a lock that can deter thieves from every common angle of attack.
I thought this also but worn down discs are worn down discs - cutting rubber doesnt degrade the disc. Move to another spot if the rubber is in the way, it's all got to be cut. Great product
Please test with diamond blade
will the Hiplok D1000 fit rad fat bike models
Micah are you going to do another Black Friday, Cyber Monday video. I always look forward to those. Great vid that product looks pretty darn good.
Yes still gathering the sales together, but plenty to cover this year!
How does it compare to the ABUS GRAN¡T EXTREME? Cause I bought that one in 2019 . It’s insane cause little over a year later the ALTOR SAF Released and my granit extreme fell to second place. Now that the D1000 is out is it stronger? Or more light weight?
I use a brand new Abus Grannit XPlus 540
Courtesy of my son for last Christmas!
@@keithcummings691 great lock! Both my Granit Extreme and your Granit Xplus 540,are both Sold Secure Bicycle/Motorcycle Diamond locks! 😎😎😎
The rubber stops alot of the grinding so iff they went further and used the ribber in them big electrical wires that are self sealing iff they used rhat it would just keep chewing thr blade up
Impressive only issue that lock is small for that frame bike. It does not look like can fit it around frame and attach to anything.
What about cutting the locking part of it
Use a bigger disc next time . The guard is hitting the lock not allowing the blade to go through. 3:07
What if you cut through half the lock on the outside like you were and then switch to cutting the same bar but from the inside see what happens
Bike thieves won't have that space
I'm lookign at Etrikes again and this lock, if I can find it, looks like a seriously good one.
I am definitely putting that lock in my Amazon wish list!
How long were you grinding for?!!
That's some lock, but can it be easily picked?
It might use the blade faster when you go deeper because material from the sides get rubbed against the blade enstead of just the tip.