Best E-bike Lock? Angle Grinder-Proof Hiplok D1000 Test
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I agree with you, Micah.
Even the grinder eventually cuts through the lock, it would be after several discs, a lot of noise and the chance to get caught. In my opinion, the lock delivers on it’s promise.
Remember you need to fill cuts. The first cut doesn't do much. So a total of 10 discs.
A second lock would take even more discs due to fatigue of holding the grinder. And another battery.
Also you have to cut through both sides of the lock to get it off the bike, I've seen people take 5 blades to get through both sides with a mains operated grinder which a thief wont have on the side of the road. Awesome lock.
Not to mention it looks like it took nearly two full battery charges.
This is alot more impressive than I expected tbh ,an angle grinder with enough discs will cut through practically anything within reason and this held up far far longer than a normal u lock
You didn't mention that you would have to do that twice, because it's dual shackle. You have to cut through both sides to remove the bike.
Yup just like the NY Kryptonite U lock. You need to cut 2x with multiple change of disks and batteries.
@@larryc1616 My ebike was stolen on Monday which was locked with a Kryptonite Evolution lock. I was only in the supermarket for no more than 5 minutes and when I came back all that was left was my lock in 2 pieces. Looks like they used an angle grinder on it. The kryptonite locks can be cut very quickly with angle grinders so now I looking for a grinder proof lock because my work as a food delivery guy is reliant on my ebike.
@manoz6194 the 13mm evolution is too thin. Get one with a diamond rating like the 18mm NY kryptonite. Use a disk brake lock with alarm too. Add a 3rd chain lock if in a bad neighborhood and Hide an airtag in the battery compartment. Good luck next time!
@@larryc1616 I bought the NY lock but I'm still paranoid about it so I ordered the Litelok X1 too which is actually lighter and specially made for angle grinder use. I got an alarm which is motion detected which is also a light and I've ordered a Galaxy Tag and a holder for the saddle. It's a ebike not a motorbike. I think the thieves were lying in wait
@@manoz6194let us know how the litelock works out I'm thinking of getting it. I'm sorry to hear your bike was stolen, it's unlucky, and it always happens at the worst time!
Now looking to buy one of these. I've been looking for this level of peace of mind and, it's been reviewed by you, I think I can trust it.
I’m new to the channel, but really enjoying the content. At age 52, my knees aren’t what they used to be, and biking has become rare. So, I’ve been looking into Ebikes for assistance with uphill slopes. I’m learning quite a bit here, and not just about bikes. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, and making it easy to grasp. 🤠👍
ebiking is fun!! just be careful where you store or park it. They are worth money and easy to steal.
Truly appreciate this video and saved it for future reference! can't praise you enough for educating us with non-promotional ideas and products. Good on Hiplok for sending you a lock as promo.
I was looking for a great lock for my grandson’s e bike. You did a great video. Thank you
Ron
You did a fantastic job of demonstrating hip log D 1000 with the angle grinders
That was just an impresively resistant lock. I love it. Must say that's what I need to keep mom home friday nights!
You gave that lock a good try, now I know which lock to buy if ever needed, thanks
That lock is awesome! Thanks for stress testing it for us viewers.
I haven't had any HUGE issues with this lock yet! ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxfyHDlEqk6hqu9acdvK5NGzZsGKSokSbv It seems sturdy and like it will get the job done. I really like that it has a twisting lock feature to keep out dirt and debris. However, the mounting system is much too light for the lock, and continues to get loose/move around. It's mostly made of plastic parts, and I've had to tighten it a few times in the past week or so that I've had it. I'm worried that it's going to break off at some point while I'm riding. I'm considering just scrapping that part, but that would mean having to carry the heavy lock i my backpack and adding more weight. I wish I could have given this more stars, but without the mounting system, it's just another heavy lock that I have to cart around. UPDATE: Increased rating to 5 stars because the seller offered to provide a new lock and mounting system. Really appreciate the attention to customer service!!
Excellent. I'm gonna get a couple of these D1000 locks for my eBikes. At their website they say this lock is around 4 lbs in weight, which is very good for the quality of security it is. Bottom line is it is very, very, very unlikely that a bike thief will have a half dozen high quality cutting discs and 3 or 4 spare fully charged batteries with him that he would need to cut this lock. So yeah, for all intents and purposes this lock is angle grinder proof.
how wrong one's assumptions can be...heh
Same, im sure once he makes the first cut after like 4 blades and 3 batteries, before realizing he’ll have to cut the other side as well, then do it all over on the second lock.
Impressive cut resistance. As others have stated, now the lock mechanism itself should be tested by The LPL. I'm also torn between safety and convenience - it seems pretty bulky/heavy, suitable only for a true ebike (too much for my analog bike).
Seems like a good lock that you would use on a condo or apartment bike room or rack near your car parking spot.
Please clue me how "analog" applies here, assuming you know what the word means, since you'd clearly be using all your digits on it. (Hands & feet) Might go for un-assisted.)
put it in your backpack thats where i' have always put my u lock not this hiplock though.
Depends on how much you value your bike. Honestly this lock will likely be a lifetime of use. So might be worth it.
And besides as bulky or heavy as it may be it definitely beats walking out of somewhere and finding your bike gone. A nice bike will be lighter and this lock will protect it!
It’s right at 4lbs. So not too bad imo. Has an internal size of 155mm x 92mm, external size of 225mm x 155mm, 20mm thick shackle (including protective coating).
Wow! If they have a bigger D-lock for Ebikes, I’m definitely going to look into getting one
Good job testing. I've seen the claims but we weary of them. Thanks!
And from what I understand after you would theoretically cut through one side you actually have to do the same thing on the other side. Now I’ve also heard suggestions that the crossbar part or whatever that’s called might be more vulnerable by drilling into the key area. Either way I have one of these on order.
from what i have seen from other UA-camrs you only have todo one side on this lock but im okay with that with how long it takes just todo one side
Very impressive lock, and as usual great video too! Thanks
simple and effective as usual! Thanks for the video
Thanks for video, I have been looking for a good lock👍🏻👍🏻
Okay. I'm definitely purchasing this 'U' Hiplock. Badazz hard steel. Great video.
That one tough lock! Great video!
This video is awesome, love your work.
Best I've ever seen.. Thx for doing the work of enlightenment!
I am definitely putting that lock in my Amazon wish list!
Great video. Impressive test
Looks like a genuine deterrent to bike thieves. I think they would look for easier and faster targets. Time and equipment needed would put this way down their list of targets in my opinion. Great demonstration, thank you
Thanks Micah, very informative!
Very impressive glad I saw your site
Wow! Great video! Good info !
Thanks, great video! I laughed when I saw they claimed their lock was angle grinder proof and figured you were going to quickly debunk it. While I think you could eventually have made it through, using who knows how many blades, it would make a huge scene if you were trying to do this somewhere public. And e-bike thieves aren't looking to make a public scene, so unless your bike is stored somewhere out of sight and sound, I'd say they passed the test.
I now have a D1000 and now I have peace of mind im certain my bike is going nowhere especially with the motion alarm
Looks like a worthy challenger to the Altor SAF lock.
Well done. Good lock and great to see how well it stands up to grinders. If a diamond cutting stone was quicker (as some comments have mentioned) I presume it would take too long to make it worthwhile for a thief. Good review.
is between 3 to 4 minutes quick enough for you?
I don't remember getting the notice for this video. Good content and Be Well.
Good deal on not doing sponsored videos and giving honest reviews
Did you try this on the Lectric XP before you cut it to see how it fits?
That is impressive. I would be interested to see how it held up to a single blade, possibly with rubber cut away, then a shot of freon before cooling.
Micah are you going to do another Black Friday, Cyber Monday video. I always look forward to those. Great vid that product looks pretty darn good.
Yes still gathering the sales together, but plenty to cover this year!
I would have wanted to see what happens when you are through, if the lock is still rigid enough to be difficult to open up any gaps on it to be able to remove it from something it is attached to. Because it would be amazing if one would be required to cut two sides of it of, or bend on it even after cutting into one side.
Came here to say this!
You will have to make two cuts to get it off, unless one very thick cut and managed to use a pry bar to bend (or crack) it further open. I would call that twice as good but not at all amazing, since if they can complete one cut, they can use same method for a 2nd cut, simply taking twice as long and that difference might be more than enough to make the thief move on, OR it might make them just start cutting the bike away from the lock instead of the lock away from the bike to at least get something for their efforts.
Wow…make me want to snatch one of these up!
Good test! You've convinced me...
Wow that is some lock. Nice video.
Sold. Thanks for the video
Impressive lock!
Good information on that lock
I have to say that is an impressive lock. Wonder how the Folylock Forever would hold up?
I've been watching a lot of your battery build videos. You really need to make a video on how to build a battery that follows the shape of the fender of a Onewheel and how to tie it in to the power supply so it functions in tandem with the stock battery. They have all these videos about adding battery packs to the fender, but it makes the board look like it came out of Mad Max or something. Which isn't bad if that's what you're going for, but it just seems like an additional battery that would give 2x the range that's integrated into the fender and doesn't look like some bulging mass would be a huge hit.
Impressive lock. I’m sold .
I agree partially with a person who posted previous to me, there is no such thing on the market 'yet' as an angle grinder proof lock. But still it is very impressive, as I own a couple of e-bikes, one worth at least 6 grand (just in parts) I will definitely be looking into this lock! But I do suggest that anyone who values their e-bike also purchase and install a very loud vibration sensitive alarm, GPS tracking and e-bike insurance. The combination of a great lock (like this one appears to be), a loud alarm and locking it securely in a public area is most of the time effective at deterring thieves. Make sure any alarm you buy is vibration sensitive, placed in a spot that is hard to muffle (like under the seat facing up), and secured at a minimum with stainless or coated steel zip ties.
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@@djcm6326 That sucks, I doubt I will remember by then. It's crazy how long it takes once something is done being tested even by people on UA-cam before it comes to market.
Could you recommend an alarm
@@SellingNewYorkCiti Sure, I tested out several different ones from Amazon and the one I really like is a no name wireless vibration sensitive alarm, that lets you choose how sensitive to make it, link at the bottom. It appears there's an updated version to the one in the link, and the alarm is sold by several vendors on Amazon, you might want to check to see if there's a better price. Test it outside and/or with ear protection it's very loud, and can be overly sensitive on the highest setting.
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If there's anything else just let me know, I have built an ebike and 2 recumbent e-trikes, all high powered. My newest recumbent e-trike tops out at 45mph at the moment, soon to be much faster.
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Good advice. I caught a thief red handed trying to steal my Fiido M1 pro a few months ago. I had only left it for 20 minutes while I went to buy some food.
He ran like a scared rat when he saw me. I never leave my bike unattended for more than 30 minutes in public. I have a tracker in it. A very jarring loud alarm. And two bolt cutter proof locks on it.
Only someone with an angle grinder might have a chance. And as soon as these HIPLOK d1000s go mainstream. Im getting two of them.
I work too hard for my money. To let any low life just take my stuff. To sell on for peanuts to feed their addictions.
What about alarm lockers? Great work, hope to get the book.
Great review
That's quite impressive! I hope the lock is just as impressive at being pick-proof.
Micah, send that ruined bike lock over to another UA-camr, LockPickingLawyer, to see how hard it is to pick the lock.
If it takes a longer-than-usual time to pick it then I just might buy one!
Also, how heavy is that bike lock?
Just curious to what type of blade you chose to cut the lock?
According to their kickstarter website, the lock is made out of a ceramic composite, which means that it may be vulnerable to a screw spreader attack, as the material is more brittle than metal. Still, in order to use a screw spreader, you have to be able to fit it between the bars of the lock, so if you lock your bike in such a way that there is no room for it, you are still good. Another possible attack would be a hydraulic cutter, which might shatter the material. The LPL has used one of these on steel locks, so maybe he would be able to try it on this one when you send it.
I think it is the same composite as the Challenger 2 tank.
How about "Jaws of Life" hydraulic kit? Rather than BFI (brute force & ignorance) mechanical approaches. Professional bike thieves could easily carry it in their van. And it's QUIET. OTOH, how 'bout we legally mandate VIN code on multiple locations on any valuable vehicle. If you can't fence it, why bother stealing it? Any lock would then be just an inconvenience factor and a "flag" that you're in the wrong line of work.
A hydraulic cutter or simply a hydraulic crimper with a custom die set would probably do it. Likewise, I wonder how it'd fare against a nut splitter if it's a brittle material.
I am surely buying this lock
What a beast of a lock!!
Nice review, I'm glad to see the it was pretty tough to cut through!...
-How much of the bike can that lock secure?
-The lock looks pretty small, is it able to be secured through the back tire and frame?
-And does it come in a longer length?
Yea the lock is to small.. if u lock this lock around the pickup grip they have on the lectric bike he has in the video or anywhere else similar then the theif would be able to easily saw that part off (frame) which the lock is holding 😢
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DAng that was impressive. Where can I get one and do they have a discount code?. Thanks again
I have to say, that's a pretty impressive deterrent.
Also, (and it may have been noted elsewhere..) you will have to cut the other side of the "U" as the lock won't just fall apart with one cut-through. A thief will need maybe 15 wheels and two spare batteries? Nice lock. Spendy but nice. Cheers.
Great video
Have you tried to cut through a hiplok dx? How long did that take? Just curious as I'm looking to purchase one.
People mentioning (here, elsewhere) that The Lockpicking Lawyer could likely pick this in minutes, keep in mind he is in the .1% of master lockpickers on the planet. Few, if any bike thieves, even in a city like NY, have his level of skills.
Also know, if you see the Lockpicking Lawyer pick this in his home office, that's not the same as being on the street, under potential watchful eyes. Granted, a wizard lock picking bike thief could buy a couple of these legit, learn how to defeat them, then go on a binge picking them.
That was five months ago and there’s still a waiting list I wonder if this lock will ever be available
Amazing test, but where is the weak point that the crook will get to? Probably where the lock attaches or the lock itself. Please post that video too. Thanks for your wonderful educational videos.
Did you disconnect the battery for safety or did you have to Change the battery as it was flat from the grinding
Cool just ordering an e bike and looking for a locking system. Any recommendations?
did you use grind or cut disks
and you use diamond disks?
A key to locking the bike is to place the lock so it's difficult to hammer against the ground. It would not be fixed as it is in this test, so would taka longer still if the test had been in situ
What if you used the angle grinder on the base of the this U lock (not on the "U" part). Would it be able to cut through?
Hi, interesting but what sort of key is used ? That might be the weakest point.
I'm lookign at Etrikes again and this lock, if I can find it, looks like a seriously good one.
The Lectric XP bike in background is worth locking up. I have 200 miles on mine, use it 3 days a week when I park 2 miles from the office, spends most of the time folded up in back of my Subaru.
Did you use regular or diamond edge disks on the angle grinder?
Where did you but that lock? Ebay/Amazon does not have it
Totally diggin the vibe. Hopefully I can win a book.
Thanks again
What’s your opinion of disk brake rotor locks??
I saw another uTube vid (I can’t remember the link) where they eventually cut the lock using 7 blades and the grinder was mains powered. They also tested the lock and it was break proof. But they didn’t pick it.
Would you be able to use that lock on the bike next to you in thr video? Seems like the main frame is too thick
I wonder what happens when you try different discs than metal disc? Like stone one? Or maybe just hit it with hammer really hard once and then use grinder?
was this really a test of the angle grinder blades?
What does The Lockpicking Lawyer say about this lock?
You can get pipe cutters and cut directly through the pipe that the lock is secured to, I seen it happen the other week lol
Try Diablo metal cutting blade on the Hip lock
A rolling pin center would be cool. Thanks man, William in Vancouver
can you try the lock with the ryobi electric bolt cutters?
I'm curious what would have happened if you hit the core up with some liquid CO2 (or CO2 fire extinguisher) then hit it with a hammer?
I'm very impressed, I've cut nearly everything with my angle grinder.
Nice video 👍
That’s a pretty cool lock
What if you used a diamond cutting disc?
So it's very difficult to cut through it, but what about picking the lock?
What about the other end of it? Or the gap where it latches?
Literally shocked was expecting a good laugh but damn was I proved wrong and I’m actually very impressed with the durability of that lock
Good video. I think a bike thief would give up after the first cutting disc. I know this lock is heavy and expensive but I guess that's the price you pay for that level of protection.
dont forget that the lock is locked on both sides of the shackle, so that means they would have to make two full cuts in order to get the lock off the bike.
Check out the Litelok X3 here - It's even better than the D1000! ua-cam.com/video/PUwjh8J4uec/v-deo.html
Whatever that core is made of is insane and eats cutoff wheels for lunch. Thanks for the test
Where to buy this lock ?thank you