When you think about it, this makes Lord Farquad a better evil lord. So an animated movie from early 2000s beats amazon's 1 billion dollar show which uses Tolkien works as a source. You can use any measure and it will beat Rings of Power.
Idea of Sauron, the Dark Lord standing on a podium and campainging to orcs like some f*cking politician is hilarious. He can bent Nazgûl, whom are undead wizard-kings to his will. Orcs would even frightened of breathing in his presence.
TBH, the notes mention the orcs laughed at Sauron and rebelled against him when he tried to rule them after Morgoth's fall. We just didn't see the process. He did brood around uselessly for centuries. So it's probably based on that.
"- as long as he went among the Elves in a fair visage, the long-autonomous Eastern Orcs resented him" They are taking some points of this in to this show so imo it checks out. I understand that they had to put things in much shorter timeframe in this show than how they went in books. Also at this time sauron didn't have ring of power yet and nazguls weren't even created so. As i understand, orcs during the reign of Morgoth were much more autonomous but followed Morgoth out of fear and hate for elves and men but orcs under Sauron followed him later on because they didn't have any choice because of the one ring and the fear is caused them. Between those two times i can imagine many orcs were trying to get to be by themselfs and not just tools for war for dark lords.
@@dinoworld112 I understand that he could communicate with them. I just mean that he wouldn’t have conversations with them in that tone… he wouldn’t try and convince them of anything. He was debating with them as if they were on his level… he’s literally a dark god.
@@V_II_IK_I_IN_G He wasn't really trying to politely debate them though. He basically said "I am your only option, you better follow me, who dares to disobey?"
@@V_II_IK_I_IN_G He's a fallen angel at best. Not a god. That would be Morgoth. Also Sauron in the books is a lot more physically present than he was in the movie trilogy, which made a lot of people think of him as a transcendental entity. I repeat, he is not a god or even a disembodied will for most of his existence. He is an evil spirit with flesh and blood who has been bested by his lessers before.
@@VladfishTheMagnificentthat’s false Sauron was good at fights he just wasn’t the best And he only has 2 defeats in battle and neither of them were him at his strongest
The most cring scene of this show so far. 1. Sauron who is one of the most powerful maia spirit being killed by mere orcs 2. Sauron calling himself by the name "Sauron" 3. Sauron wasting his time on speech in front of orcs 4. Sauron who is master deciever being outsmarted by group of orcs 5. Sauron talking nonsense 6. Sauron being venom absorbing others to replenish his inner power reserves...
Sauron getting taken down by a rabble of Orcs aside, why is the show acting like Sauron has to make a pitch to the Orcs to be their leader?Sauron has been leading the Orcs for uncounted ages of Arda both as Morgoth’s lieutenant and in his master’s 3 ages long absence in Valinor. Sauron should just have to click his fingers.
After rereading the silmarilion sauron's power is insane, and orcs are an incredibly fearful beings which would of cowered at the sight of sauron this is an absolute joke.
Sauron pours some strength into controlling his minions, so open betrayal is nearly impossible, unless you're a strong-willed numenorean, elf or dwarf.
This is just after Morgoth, the top ruler has died and sauron is trying to seize absolute power, not a lieutenants power. They clearly also have someone else they would want to lead them, Adar
@@John-b1z3x "But not until Mordor and the Barad-dûr were ready could he allow them to come out of hiding, while the Eastern Orcs, who had not experienced the power and terror of the Eldar, or the valour of the Edain, were not subservient to Sauron - while he was obliged for the cozening of Western Men and Elves to wear as fair a form and countenance as he could, they despised him and laughed at him. Thus it was that though, as soon as his disguise was pierced and he was recognized as an enemy, he exerted all his time and strength to gathering and training armies, it took some ninety years before he felt ready to open war." - Nature of Middle Earth
Why is he talking in human-language to his orc minions? why is he talking to them almost as peers? I just started watching and I geniunly view it as a parody show
@@simonlopez-xx1bi Why are you pretending that this would ever happen in the books, or that you've read them yourself? Do you genuinely think amazon is being faithful to the source material here?
Fun fact: Sauron hated when everyone called him this Sauron. He wanted to be administered as "The Lord", the reason behind all that is meaning of the word Sauron in Sindarin. Which translates to "disgusting"
Orcs fear the very sight of Sauron, no way this would ever happen. He fled for a thousand years after Morgoth's defeat, then returned, all evil amassed to him, etc.
Maybe they feared him After he could reborn? why is it so fckin important? :D Okay i admit he was much more prsuading just to be betrayed like this. But we got to see how he can reborn from death 🥶🥶 why iis everyone so sad about it i dont know
5000 orcs ran from the Balrog, the Balrog was defeated by Gandalf the wWhite. Gandalf the White would not even venture close to Mount doom in fear of Sauron without a physical form or a ring. This scene means I can't watch anymore of this show. It's just too stupid.
Gandalf the Grey killed Balrog! aand why is it stupid? it was hell of agood scene. People just so stubborn like a donkey cant accept if some things are changed
Gandalf the grey destroyed Balrog without using most of his angelic powers. He was restricted from using those, he and other istars could have united and easily defeated Sauron, but that would have led to catastrophic losses in the middle earth, changing it completely and for good. But yes, orcs killing Sauron was stupid, he was the most powerful Maia and had no restrictions on how much power could he unleash, he obviously has control over all the elements like fire, water, air or earth, he could have easily vanquished all the orcs and their adar in a blink of eyes but yet his physical form was vulnerable just like Gandalf’s or Saruman’s. And stab wounds could damage his physical form.
How stupidly Sauron was shown in this series can be discussed endlessly. Instead of appearing before the orcs (bloodthirsty and treacherous creatures, by the way) in his main form, a tall, formidable ruler, dressed in shadow-black armor with spikes, Sauron in the series appears before them in the guise of a cloying little man and pushes eloquent speeches, as if in front of him is not an army of bloodthirsty ghouls, but very civilized people from Gondor or Rohan. Well, let's say. But after the orcs attacked him, not only does he not decide to take his true form and smash them all into meat, he barely overcomes killing a couple, then just to be stabbed by them. THIS IS NONSENSE.
@@TheTokkin you sound like your trying to defend this show when the guy above is right Sauron has no reason to deceive the orcs here Sauron is the kind of person who puts a crown on his own head he doesn’t need his followers to crown him or approval He a force of nature that embodies terror To the point the orcs follow him if only because of his great power
This dude doesn’t feel imposing or impressive at all. The minds of orcs and goblins were Sauron’s playthings. Yet I’m supposed to believe he can deceive several high ranking elf lords but some brain rot orcs aren’t having it?
It's not about that. By the moment Isildur cut the ring from Sauron's finger, the latter was so exhausted that his fea had no longer enough strength to support his physical body. Thus, when it happened, Sauron's body just collapsed. My point is, maiar like Sauron or Gandalf may lose their bodies even without mortal wounds. Losing tremendous amounts of their power may be enough for death to occur.
@@GanteSpruce wrong. Gil-Galad and Elendil wore him out, and that cost both them their lives. With them dead, Sauron was so exhausted that he was crippled enough for Isildur to cut the ring from his finger. Only then Sauron finally could not maintain his body and was defeated.
Wrong. Elendil and Gil-Galad defeated Sauron at the cost of their own life, Isildur just cut off the ring from Saurons body unlike in the movies which made sauron grab after Isildur for whatever reason. That's how it is in the books. @@thedarkone9552
@@thedarkone9552 The other problem is that if you put too much essence into one thing itself, which is a physical thing like the ring, is it any surprise that his physical body broke?
Are you kidding me?! Sauron is an evil godlike being that is able to bend dark creatures like Orcs to his will! Why does he even need to argue his case or fear betrayal if his servants are too scared of him?!
@@brainworm666 this is the problem when someone pompous and uneducated gets the delusion they know what they are talking about. The Orcs' only structure is pure militarism and servitude to evil, the Black Speech is there to give orders and maintain uniformity across the board. This show is just f*cking ridiculous. JRR Tolkien has been spinning so much in his grave it probably blew up half of Oxfordshire.
Read a little about the restrictions Amazon and the show writers are dealing with. Tolkien's estate put a lot of restrictions on the studio, thus whatever material they were left with was essentially the appendices of the three books.
@@anidynamic The showrunner's philosophy is "Tolkien's outdated, we are going to reinterpret his works for modern audiences". That's a demonic and rotten philosophy, evil cannot create, it can only destroy what is good.
@@anidynamicso they should be excused cause they weren’t given the eggs to make an omelet but they tried making one anyways?…make it make sense bro And let’s not forget the fact that they indeed tried to make it with unatural ingredients like battery acid…that too me sounds more like irresponsible but sure let’s excuse the dumb rich people making garbage.
Sauron took the weak form of flesh but the Balrog is "shadows and fire" literally How can you kill shadow and fire? how can you stab fire? how can you make shadow bleed?
@@adeadpoet4221he's a shape shifter. And, more importantly, he's a leader and easily reads minds, literally. Especially orcs. Who are bound to evil by Morgoth.
@@hamechok3279 There's nothing normal about this travesty of a show, Sauron wasn't a politician and his army wasn't composed of some free-willed peasants with normal families that needs speeches in order to choose and serve the dark lord. The orcs were twisted and corrupted, loyal to Morgoth and Sauron by design.
Idk feel like this kinda diminishes Sauron’s aura. Like dudes suppose to be a god or whatever and he gets bodies by some regular dudes. I did like ice explosion thing, looked cool lol
You just want to grab some producers by the ears and scream "GAME OF THRONES IS OVER AND YOU CANNOT RECREATE THE IMPACT OF IT NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY! BE ORIGINAL"
This is another scene that demonstrates that the "writers" of this show have no (or very limited) awareness of Tolkien's mythology. Sauron would never be taken down by a group of basic orcs. He was incredibly powerful, shrewd and intelligent. This is similar to when, in Season 1, the show has Galadriel sailing back to Valinor as a reward for her service and then she jumps into an endless ocean because she feels called to go back to Middle Earth. I knew after seeing this sequence that the writers weren't familiar with or respectful of (assuming they even cared) Tolkien's mythos and lore. Galadriel was banished from Valinor in part for her decision to leave Valinor and assist her family in kin in pursuing Morgoth into Beleriand (although it appears that she had grown tired of Valinor and wanted to rule her own lands). The "banishment" of those elves who took part in the hunt for Morgoth is such a major aspect of The Silmarillion and what happens later in Middle Earth. Galadriel's banishment hinted at in the LotR series when she has to decide whether to take the one ring from Frodo--she doesn't and is therefore released to return to Valinor (although after the War of Wrath, I think the Doom of Mandos was lifted). At any rate, it is absurd to suggest that elves were coming and going between Valinor and Middle Earth randomly or that Galadriel jumped into a vast ocean merely because she felt the urge to go back and fight Sauron. The RoP series is atrocious and is a serious stain on Tolkien's legacy.
They are probably aware. They just suppose themselves wise enough to "improve" upon the "old racist" Tolkien's life's work. They are little kids playing with daddy's tools and supposing that the pile of boards they stacked up and hammered together are an improvement over the elegant dining room table that daddy made. Unfortunately, since we live in a world where it's "loving" and "supportive" to tell children that their shoddy work is "wonderful," how can they be expected to tell the difference?
Who can every foreshadowing such outcome? How can one predict that most cunning, violent and devoid of any moral principles creatures could betray you?
Reminder that by now in the canon timeline, Mairon (Sauron) had: - Commanded the armies of Angband (far more vast than even Mordor at full strength) - Aided in the bolstering of orc numbers - Harried the elves in their March - Commanded a "host of Balrogs" in war against the elves - Overtook an elvish isle and remained it Tol-in-Gaurhoth, the Isle of werewolves, of which he was the lord, alongside Draugluin - And last but not least. Killed Finrod, a legendary elvish king, nearly killing Beren, another legend among men. And he gets kicked to death by like 5 orcs because he was a "unworthy", and they liked Adar, the show writers' OC, better?
Every trash idea is better than this... What if... Sauron: The darkest night before dawn. I regret to inform you that our old Dark Lord has gone irrevocably. But don't be in a hurry to get upset. Because today a new era is rising, under my leadership. Your new Dark Lord, Mairon. Sauron: Of course, I have my own vision of the order in my Dark Empire. There is only one way to achieve the improvement of society. Social mobility and competent trade unions. Healthy eating, of course. But the most important thing is that for some reason no one mentioned it... This is a FULL abstinence from alcohol. The Orcs are outraged. Sauron: It is alcohol that is rampantly destroying your body and crippling your health. No more grog in the morning, cognac for lunch and ale before going to bed. Open the morning we start with milk, and for lunch we eat healthy cereals and fruits. And remember that we can only defeat this sin by joint efforts. All as one. Orc: I can't get up in the morning without grog!!! Sauron: And those who resist... They will receive alternative methods of education. Cancellation of social benefits, community service. Forced community service and confiscation of pension savings. It's all for your own good, comrades! I just want to save your nation from this sin! The Orc attacks Sauron. The Orc is dying. Sauron: I AM YOUR ONLY SALVATION! WITHOUT ME, YOU'LL ALL GET DRUNK AND ROT IN THE PITS! GO TO HELL WITH CLAIMS!
Sauron is supposed to be a tall, majestic(whether beautiful or frightening), austere, imposing and intimidating being----who by his very nature, commands fear and reverence from friend and foe. Therefore, Orcs wouldn't dare attack him for any reason! Regardless of what he said or did.
Let’s make this clear this can’t happen Sauron can’t be harmed physically unless you have divine powers or enchanted weapons Not to mention at his absolute weakest he is country level(at his most powerful you can argue he is star maybe galaxy level plus in a physical form in his prime with the one ring, I can link feats and statements to that ) And would be above the witch king who can’t be killed physically either unless again via enchanted weapons Otherwise throw Sauron in a sun or black hole he will be unharmed physically And blades would shatter in contact with him There is a reason people fear him And it’s because he can kill you in an instant or mind F you And you can’t fight back at all once he decides to Rings of power does him dirty
@@kodesh1674 that’s when he was at his weakest even then Sauron can’t be harmed by anything physical Meaning throw him into the vacuum of space and have him fall down to earth and he’ll be fine Meaning that crown those swords would do Jack all to him They be like trying to fight with feathers Unless they are enchanted with divine power or magic which they don’t have Only then can you harm his physical form Its why narzil the sword that cut the ring from him is so prized its because its one of the only weapons that can harm him
This is not correct. If Sauron takes a physical shape. The limitations of the physical being does constrain him. The body or form can be hurt, damaged or killed but he is spiritual being as a Maia is immortal and cannot be killed.
@@isaacm2374 you are correct however even his body unless you have a power or enchantment of the same nature of Sauron’s body can you harm him otherwise he is like ghost rider where he technically can’t be hurt or injured by anything physically again unless some divine power or weapons are involved Which is why this scene makes no sense
Sauron existed before the world was even a thing, and is veteran of... basically all the wars it has had since the dawn of time. So yeah, he's a supernaturally skilled fighter by default (though not the greatest compared to others of his kind).
Here’s my understanding of this scene. There's a passage in the books that mentions how Sauron was disrespected by the Eastern Orcs, who laughed at him and despised him because they didn’t know his true power. So, the idea that Orcs would defy him isn’t completely out of place. As for the complaints about Sauron appearing weak in this scene: yes, he’s a powerful being, but he was never on the same level as Morgoth, who wielded the most destructive forces in the world. Sauron’s strength lay in more subtle things (corruption, manipulation, and control). Without the One Ring, he’s still incredibly strong, but far from invincible. You could compare him to the wizards: although more powerful, Sauron also has his limits without the Ring. For example, he can’t just unleash devastating magic or summon fire without needing time to recover. So it makes sense that, after being severely wounded by the crown, he would struggle against a group of Orcs. And if that still feels off, remember that the showrunners are aware of how powerful he truly is. After all, his “death” triggers an ice explosion that freezes the entire landscape.
man... Sauron looks like he haven't had Coffee in 2 weeks and only slept 2 hours in the last 3 days "Melkor Inc. going bankrupt did a number on me... must rally the minimum wage team for one more fight!! LOL"
Yea. That was the only way to "kill" him. He deposited his power onto The Ring when he forged it and a lack of connection (separating it from its body) with it would result in the destruction of his physical form. In the books, he was weakened by an elf and a bunch of Númeróneans (who died during the fight expect Isildur) and then while crippled, he got his finger cut by Isildur. He can also control the orcs at will and I bet no one would dare to betray him.
Not gonna lie, there's issues with this scene, like, Sauron trying to convince orcs to join him like they have a choice (they don't), and getting killed by a few. But it was a dope scene forgetting all that.
You got it until last sentence. All I see in this scene is wasted money and actor's talents, tho they didn't act that great anyway - it's all feels like teenage disney show, aimed at toddlers...
@@tsotne2896 Oh really? Stop justifying this nonsense with your half knowledge of lore. He wasn't defeated by a cut finger, he lost his ring which he put almost all of his power in it. Even then he wasn't "defeated".
@@tsotne2896 by that point he was so tremendously exhausted that the loss of the ring suddenly lowered his innate strength threshold. When it happened, Sauron could no longer support his physical body, and it collapsed. That can happen to any ainur.
@@ch3rlo_1 if you want me to be specific about the matter, i can do much better - he had his ring put on one of his fingers and cutting it off resulted in losing the one ring which eventually lead to the fact that he was no longer able to regain his physical form and that could be seen as a defeat. Sauron has been around before the shaping of the world (it's called Arda in TOLKIEN'S universe)and he was one of the Maiar which makes him immortal. his body wasn't indestructible, but as a spirit he was everlasting. so we could assume that he couldn't be killed. but after the forging of the one ring, he made himself killable. "into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all". his immortal soul has been put in the ring and after it was completely destroyed, Sauron was gone with it as well.
This is not Sauron of the one ring .. this is Sauron before claiming the crown after Morgoth's death... but tbh i enjoyed the idea of orcs not wanting Sauron
For people complaining about this.... "But not until Mordor and the Barad-dûr were ready could he allow them to come out of hiding, while the Eastern Orcs, who had not experienced the power and terror of the Eldar, or the valour of the Edain, were not subservient to Sauron - while he was obliged for the cozening of Western Men and Elves to wear as fair a form and countenance as he could, they despised him and laughed at him. Thus it was that though, as soon as his disguise was pierced and he was recognized as an enemy, he exerted all his time and strength to gathering and training armies, it took some ninety years before he felt ready to open war." - Nature of Middle Earth
"And deep in their dark hearts the Orcs loathed the Master whom they served IN FEAR, the maker only of their misery." There's the answer. They FEARED Morgoth, therefore they FEARED Sauron. This Sauron does not inspire fear, he just tries to convince them to die for him. That's not what Sauron is or does.
Nowhere there is it implied they could kill him, lol Tolkien had a clear history mapped out for Sauron and he never ever would refer to himself as Sauron the Great
I didn't pick up on the fact that this is a different actor at all. He looked so much like the Annatar form that is played by the same actor as Halbrand that I just thought that it was the same.
Everyone commenting on this acts like he wasn't stabbed in the spine at the beginning of the fight by Adar with a pretty large spike - a very powerful, competent ancient warrior unto himself.
Thing is: he’s stronger then the balrog And he can change form He does not use that ability, also I know what Sauron is known for??? What the one ring does too as a apart of him??? MIND CONTROL
He’s the most powerful maiar spirit. The only beings more powerful than him were the valar. He could bend orcs to his will by just looking at them. This show is ridiculous. It’s like 15 year old girl fan fiction.
Sauron's speech is much more-- I'll say "interesting", when you realize the racist writers of this show think orcs are standins for people who are black.
He got betrayed not just by Orcs but to his own right hand men who stood beside him which i don't even know who his name is. His death turned the land to ice.
All I needed to see was this scene and I turned the TV off. Truly pathetic how they lessen and reduce Sauron’s status and true power and presence. I’m so glad this is not canon to Tolkien’s lore or PJ’s movies. A fan fiction is all this will ever be
Yeah, this elegant speech is exactly what orcs are starving to hear! This scene have to the vibes of a very scary movie, the bare absurdity of him standing where in this clothes, giving a speech to a crowd of mindlessl bloodthirsty drones.
I was just here to see people talk about the cool w/e icy explosion part, but it seems that most of the comments are Tolkien purist wannabes crying over the fact that Sauron is having a chat with the orcs. Poor creatures...but i'll let you guess which one I'm referring to
Sauron got defeated by a couple of numenoreans and an elf WITH the one ring at the battle of the last alliance. I’m sure some orcs could defeat him without morgoths influence.
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When the "many amongst you will die, but this is a sacrifice I'm willing to make" argument backfires 😅
That phrase was said by Lord Farquaad in Shrek 1😅😂
When you think about it, this makes Lord Farquad a better evil lord. So an animated movie from early 2000s beats amazon's 1 billion dollar show which uses Tolkien works as a source. You can use any measure and it will beat Rings of Power.
Imagine Sauron getting kicked to death by a bunch of orcs. This show is so tapped.
Idea of Sauron, the Dark Lord standing on a podium and campainging to orcs like some f*cking politician is hilarious. He can bent Nazgûl, whom are undead wizard-kings to his will. Orcs would even frightened of breathing in his presence.
TBH, the notes mention the orcs laughed at Sauron and rebelled against him when he tried to rule them after Morgoth's fall. We just didn't see the process. He did brood around uselessly for centuries.
So it's probably based on that.
"- as long as he went among the Elves in a fair visage, the long-autonomous Eastern Orcs resented him" They are taking some points of this in to this show so imo it checks out. I understand that they had to put things in much shorter timeframe in this show than how they went in books. Also at this time sauron didn't have ring of power yet and nazguls weren't even created so. As i understand, orcs during the reign of Morgoth were much more autonomous but followed Morgoth out of fear and hate for elves and men but orcs under Sauron followed him later on because they didn't have any choice because of the one ring and the fear is caused them. Between those two times i can imagine many orcs were trying to get to be by themselfs and not just tools for war for dark lords.
yeah if the writers wanted to show us more of how little they know about the universe, this sums it up.
Srfu nerd people like the show
Nazgûl didn’t exist yet
The fact that he has conversations with orcs is ridiculous
Sauron created Black speech so he could talk to the orcs
@@dinoworld112 I understand that he could communicate with them. I just mean that he wouldn’t have conversations with them in that tone… he wouldn’t try and convince them of anything. He was debating with them as if they were on his level… he’s literally a dark god.
@@V_II_IK_I_IN_G He wasn't really trying to politely debate them though. He basically said "I am your only option, you better follow me, who dares to disobey?"
@@V_II_IK_I_IN_G He's a fallen angel at best. Not a god. That would be Morgoth. Also Sauron in the books is a lot more physically present than he was in the movie trilogy, which made a lot of people think of him as a transcendental entity. I repeat, he is not a god or even a disembodied will for most of his existence. He is an evil spirit with flesh and blood who has been bested by his lessers before.
@@LetMeGetAUhhhso he's like a demon?
How the hell does a god known for his intelligence and schemes die to some orcs he magically has power over?
The crown is of the dark and thus is a weapon.
He doesnt have power of them yet, at this point they are actually free beings
Dude LITERALLY said the Lord Farquaad meme!
Sauron wasn't really a fighter. He was excellent at playing 3D chess, not so much at actually fighting.
@@VladfishTheMagnificentthat’s false Sauron was good at fights he just wasn’t the best
And he only has 2 defeats in battle and neither of them were him at his strongest
The most cring scene of this show so far.
1. Sauron who is one of the most powerful maia spirit being killed by mere orcs
2. Sauron calling himself by the name "Sauron"
3. Sauron wasting his time on speech in front of orcs
4. Sauron who is master deciever being outsmarted by group of orcs
5. Sauron talking nonsense
6. Sauron being venom absorbing others to replenish his inner power reserves...
who cares. it’s a fuckin adaptation. stop whining or stop watching. this fandom is the most annoying fandom on earth.
Sauron getting taken down by a rabble of Orcs aside, why is the show acting like Sauron has to make a pitch to the Orcs to be their leader?Sauron has been leading the Orcs for uncounted ages of Arda both as Morgoth’s lieutenant and in his master’s 3 ages long absence in Valinor. Sauron should just have to click his fingers.
After rereading the silmarilion sauron's power is insane, and orcs are an incredibly fearful beings which would of cowered at the sight of sauron this is an absolute joke.
Sauron pours some strength into controlling his minions, so open betrayal is nearly impossible, unless you're a strong-willed numenorean, elf or dwarf.
This is just after Morgoth, the top ruler has died and sauron is trying to seize absolute power, not a lieutenants power.
They clearly also have someone else they would want to lead them, Adar
@@John-b1z3x "But not until Mordor and the Barad-dûr were ready could he allow them to come out of hiding, while the Eastern Orcs, who had not experienced the power and terror of the Eldar, or the valour of the Edain, were not subservient to Sauron - while he was obliged for the cozening of Western Men and Elves to wear as fair a form and countenance as he could, they despised him and laughed at him. Thus it was that though, as soon as his disguise was pierced and he was recognized as an enemy, he exerted all his time and strength to gathering and training armies, it took some ninety years before he felt ready to open war." - Nature of Middle Earth
To be fair there was thousands of them . Not to mention his true powers is deception cunning and strategy rather then battle .
Kind of wish he called himself Mairon. I never thought Sauron would call himself a name that is literally an insult
This show needs to be watchable and understandable for people that haven't read The Silm.
@@Jay-lo3rb it doesn't mean it has to defy the lore here. The name Mairon could be easily explained.
Why is he talking in human-language to his orc minions? why is he talking to them almost as peers?
I just started watching and I geniunly view it as a parody show
@@m0tv1ndReel them in, pretrnd to be nice then once theyre on side you can treat them like crap? I don't know...
@@JavertRAYou don't understand, the orcs are portrayed (in the book) to be completely subservient to sauron by just his sheer will.
He would never call himself Sauron. If anyone called him like that in his presence, it would equal to a death sentence. He called himself Tar-Mairon.
The producers lack rights to mairon.
@@TheTokkin a creative way around:
The Admirable. It all amounts to writers only.
@@thedarkone9552 Except it sucks.
@@TheTokkin lore violation sucks more
@@thedarkone9552 no one cares about it except some nerds
Why is he even TALKING TO the orcs?
Read the f*cking books.
@@simonlopez-xx1bi he’s does not campaign for irk servitude in the books
Showrunners not caring about the book and writing bad fanfic is one thing, but not caring about logic is worse...
@@simonlopez-xx1bi Why are you pretending that this would ever happen in the books, or that you've read them yourself? Do you genuinely think amazon is being faithful to the source material here?
@@simonlopez-xx1bi you are the one who needs to read the books
Sauron is the same race as the Balrogs. He outranked them in power. This is ridiculous.
@@PamePublic him being stabbed by orcs is not canon
@@PamePublic Not canon actually
Idk said eastern orcs beat his azz
Maybe show would be OK if it wasn't The Lord of the Rings. This is just stupid.
Even human defeted him don't you remember?
Fun fact: Sauron hated when everyone called him this Sauron. He wanted to be administered as "The Lord", the reason behind all that is meaning of the word Sauron in Sindarin. Which translates to "disgusting"
I thought it was a quenya word for foul or abhorrent
Sauron is Quenya for “the Abhorred”. It comes from the Quenya word 'saura' (“putrid, foul, rank,” etc).
Orcs fear the very sight of Sauron, no way this would ever happen. He fled for a thousand years after Morgoth's defeat, then returned, all evil amassed to him, etc.
Maybe they feared him After he could reborn? why is it so fckin important? :D Okay i admit he was much more prsuading just to be betrayed like this. But we got to see how he can reborn from death 🥶🥶 why iis everyone so sad about it i dont know
@Fegyo98 "why is everyone upset that this show ignores all the lore?" That's you right now
You certainly missed the part when Tolkien said Eastern Orcs laughed at him for appearing in a fair form (Nature of Middle Earth)
@Fegyo98 it's popular to hate things these days. People like to kill joy of others
@@cryptkilla420 destroying that which others love by breaking it over your metaphorical knee is hateful.
5000 orcs ran from the Balrog, the Balrog was defeated by Gandalf the wWhite. Gandalf the White would not even venture close to Mount doom in fear of Sauron without a physical form or a ring. This scene means I can't watch anymore of this show. It's just too stupid.
Gandalf the Grey killed Balrog! aand why is it stupid? it was hell of agood scene. People just so stubborn like a donkey cant accept if some things are changed
@@Fegyo98 you sure it wasn't Thanos the red?
@@Fegyo98 He's talking abou this particular scene
Gandalf the grey destroyed Balrog without using most of his angelic powers. He was restricted from using those, he and other istars could have united and easily defeated Sauron, but that would have led to catastrophic losses in the middle earth, changing it completely and for good. But yes, orcs killing Sauron was stupid, he was the most powerful Maia and had no restrictions on how much power could he unleash, he obviously has control over all the elements like fire, water, air or earth, he could have easily vanquished all the orcs and their adar in a blink of eyes but yet his physical form was vulnerable just like Gandalf’s or Saruman’s. And stab wounds could damage his physical form.
@@DsMali Bezos the Pink
How stupidly Sauron was shown in this series can be discussed endlessly. Instead of appearing before the orcs (bloodthirsty and treacherous creatures, by the way) in his main form, a tall, formidable ruler, dressed in shadow-black armor with spikes, Sauron in the series appears before them in the guise of a cloying little man and pushes eloquent speeches, as if in front of him is not an army of bloodthirsty ghouls, but very civilized people from Gondor or Rohan. Well, let's say. But after the orcs attacked him, not only does he not decide to take his true form and smash them all into meat, he barely overcomes killing a couple, then just to be stabbed by them. THIS IS NONSENSE.
Sauron has always been depicted with stupid blindspots stemming from his arrogance and cruelty.
Tolkien made Sauron a lot more compelx than you assume. Read his writings on the matter
@@TheTokkin you sound like your trying to defend this show when the guy above is right Sauron has no reason to deceive the orcs here
Sauron is the kind of person who puts a crown on his own head he doesn’t need his followers to crown him or approval
He a force of nature that embodies terror
To the point the orcs follow him if only because of his great power
Uuuuhhh...they Fellowship destroyed him cause he was an arrogant and greedy assh*le
He only assumes that form after his body was destroyed in numeanor
And I remind you that Sauron participated in the creation of the Universe😅
Not too much tbf, at least compared to the Valar
Pretty wild that they show senators killing Julius Ceasar as orcs.
So I guess the symbolism here is that Orcs reject dictatorship. Orc democracy! Sic semper tyrannis!
Actually it's just cringe writing...
This dude doesn’t feel imposing or impressive at all. The minds of orcs and goblins were Sauron’s playthings. Yet I’m supposed to believe he can deceive several high ranking elf lords but some brain rot orcs aren’t having it?
Didn’t Sauron hate his name and would never call himself that? I thought he always preferred Mairon
In the books his body was destroyed by the waves that leveled Numenor so yes he is vulnerable to physical attack. He can however regenerate over time.
It's not about that. By the moment Isildur cut the ring from Sauron's finger, the latter was so exhausted that his fea had no longer enough strength to support his physical body. Thus, when it happened, Sauron's body just collapsed. My point is, maiar like Sauron or Gandalf may lose their bodies even without mortal wounds. Losing tremendous amounts of their power may be enough for death to occur.
He was killed by Elendil and then Isildur took the ring from the dead body.
@@GanteSpruce wrong. Gil-Galad and Elendil wore him out, and that cost both them their lives. With them dead, Sauron was so exhausted that he was crippled enough for Isildur to cut the ring from his finger. Only then Sauron finally could not maintain his body and was defeated.
Wrong. Elendil and Gil-Galad defeated Sauron at the cost of their own life, Isildur just cut off the ring from Saurons body unlike in the movies which made sauron grab after Isildur for whatever reason. That's how it is in the books. @@thedarkone9552
@@thedarkone9552 The other problem is that if you put too much essence into one thing itself, which is a physical thing like the ring, is it any surprise that his physical body broke?
Are you kidding me?! Sauron is an evil godlike being that is able to bend dark creatures like Orcs to his will! Why does he even need to argue his case or fear betrayal if his servants are too scared of him?!
These writers clearly did not read the books
Did you? Because the orcs have a structure, they have a society. Black speech was made to talk to the Orc. That's the entire point.
@@brainworm666 this is the problem when someone pompous and uneducated gets the delusion they know what they are talking about. The Orcs' only structure is pure militarism and servitude to evil, the Black Speech is there to give orders and maintain uniformity across the board. This show is just f*cking ridiculous. JRR Tolkien has been spinning so much in his grave it probably blew up half of Oxfordshire.
Read a little about the restrictions Amazon and the show writers are dealing with. Tolkien's estate put a lot of restrictions on the studio, thus whatever material they were left with was essentially the appendices of the three books.
@@anidynamic The showrunner's philosophy is "Tolkien's outdated, we are going to reinterpret his works for modern audiences". That's a demonic and rotten philosophy, evil cannot create, it can only destroy what is good.
@@anidynamicso they should be excused cause they weren’t given the eggs to make an omelet but they tried making one anyways?…make it make sense bro
And let’s not forget the fact that they indeed tried to make it with unatural ingredients like battery acid…that too me sounds more like irresponsible but sure let’s excuse the dumb rich people making garbage.
So, if only 20 orcs enough for killing the strongest maia, Nori or Pippin can kill Durin’s bane. Idiot scenarists…
20? There was a whole army...he was overwhelmed.
Sauron took the weak form of flesh but the Balrog is "shadows and fire" literally
How can you kill shadow and fire?
how can you stab fire?
how can you make shadow bleed?
@@GanteSpruce Sauron can change form… he culd have turned into shadow and fire u know???
U seen the intro to lotr where he smashes an entire army???
@@adeadpoet4221he's a shape shifter. And, more importantly, he's a leader and easily reads minds, literally. Especially orcs. Who are bound to evil by Morgoth.
he got stubbed intoo his back many times! and to me he seemed pretty strong :D even with so many injures he Throw 3-4 orcs away 🥶🥶😨😨
I legit thought that this was someone pretending to be sauron just to capitalize on the hype. I never thought this would actually be sauron.
I was thinking the same and laughing during all the speech scene and assassination before I realize that was really Sauron
I thought the same until his body exploded like an Angel from the Supernatural show.
This scene alone just tells you the writers have no idea of the concept of what is an orc and who is Sauron .
I thought this was an imposter sauron
This is just an insult to LOTR... wtf is this...
Its normal so shut up
@@hamechok3279 he basically begged orcs to join him, and they were like "nah, fk off"
Gen z orcs
@@hamechok3279 There's nothing normal about this travesty of a show, Sauron wasn't a politician and his army wasn't composed of some free-willed peasants with normal families that needs speeches in order to choose and serve the dark lord. The orcs were twisted and corrupted, loyal to Morgoth and Sauron by design.
Cry more
This show is a fu***g crime against Tolkien and his fandom. Holy crap...
so dont watch it
@@Fegyo98 Suffer not evil! The people behind this show should be put on trial.
@@vaarkobke3102thats reaching. Show is decent for me at least
@@derpynerdy6294 I do not understand how people have standards this low.
@@Fegyo98 I don't I'm here just for laugh, these videos are 100x better than the show lol. cope Bezos-bot.
Idk feel like this kinda diminishes Sauron’s aura. Like dudes suppose to be a god or whatever and he gets bodies by some regular dudes. I did like ice explosion thing, looked cool lol
Looks like Sauron is back on the menu boys!
You just want to grab some producers by the ears and scream "GAME OF THRONES IS OVER AND YOU CANNOT RECREATE THE IMPACT OF IT NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY! BE ORIGINAL"
This is another scene that demonstrates that the "writers" of this show have no (or very limited) awareness of Tolkien's mythology. Sauron would never be taken down by a group of basic orcs. He was incredibly powerful, shrewd and intelligent. This is similar to when, in Season 1, the show has Galadriel sailing back to Valinor as a reward for her service and then she jumps into an endless ocean because she feels called to go back to Middle Earth. I knew after seeing this sequence that the writers weren't familiar with or respectful of (assuming they even cared) Tolkien's mythos and lore. Galadriel was banished from Valinor in part for her decision to leave Valinor and assist her family in kin in pursuing Morgoth into Beleriand (although it appears that she had grown tired of Valinor and wanted to rule her own lands). The "banishment" of those elves who took part in the hunt for Morgoth is such a major aspect of The Silmarillion and what happens later in Middle Earth. Galadriel's banishment hinted at in the LotR series when she has to decide whether to take the one ring from Frodo--she doesn't and is therefore released to return to Valinor (although after the War of Wrath, I think the Doom of Mandos was lifted). At any rate, it is absurd to suggest that elves were coming and going between Valinor and Middle Earth randomly or that Galadriel jumped into a vast ocean merely because she felt the urge to go back and fight Sauron. The RoP series is atrocious and is a serious stain on Tolkien's legacy.
They are probably aware. They just suppose themselves wise enough to "improve" upon the "old racist" Tolkien's life's work. They are little kids playing with daddy's tools and supposing that the pile of boards they stacked up and hammered together are an improvement over the elegant dining room table that daddy made.
Unfortunately, since we live in a world where it's "loving" and "supportive" to tell children that their shoddy work is "wonderful," how can they be expected to tell the difference?
I just can't understand why they would do this.
2:17 Betrayal by the Orcs 😂😂😂
i gives me flashback of the red wedding in GOT sheesh hAHAHA
What a grotesque misinterpretation of Sauron and the whole events after Morgoth's defeat.
@@markusperl6132 Yea you tell me how you're going to put the entirety of Saurons tale in 1 hour 1 episode and make it interesting LOL
So that's what it feels to be betrayed in Shadows of War
Who can every foreshadowing such outcome? How can one predict that most cunning, violent and devoid of any moral principles creatures could betray you?
So the season 1 prologue scene with Sauron and his orcs army has no sense now 😅. Good job Amazon 👍🏻
Adar's real thoughts when he held up the crown: Whatever @**hole.
I hope he and Morgoth will be back, somehow.
Dagor Dagorath
2:49 5 gum moment.
Reminder that by now in the canon timeline, Mairon (Sauron) had:
- Commanded the armies of Angband (far more vast than even Mordor at full strength)
- Aided in the bolstering of orc numbers
- Harried the elves in their March
- Commanded a "host of Balrogs" in war against the elves
- Overtook an elvish isle and remained it Tol-in-Gaurhoth, the Isle of werewolves, of which he was the lord, alongside Draugluin
- And last but not least. Killed Finrod, a legendary elvish king, nearly killing Beren, another legend among men.
And he gets kicked to death by like 5 orcs because he was a "unworthy", and they liked Adar, the show writers' OC, better?
Every trash idea is better than this... What if...
Sauron: The darkest night before dawn. I regret to inform you that our old Dark Lord has gone irrevocably. But don't be in a hurry to get upset. Because today a new era is rising, under my leadership. Your new Dark Lord, Mairon.
Sauron: Of course, I have my own vision of the order in my Dark Empire. There is only one way to achieve the improvement of society. Social mobility and competent trade unions. Healthy eating, of course. But the most important thing is that for some reason no one mentioned it... This is a FULL abstinence from alcohol.
The Orcs are outraged.
Sauron: It is alcohol that is rampantly destroying your body and crippling your health. No more grog in the morning, cognac for lunch and ale before going to bed. Open the morning we start with milk, and for lunch we eat healthy cereals and fruits. And remember that we can only defeat this sin by joint efforts. All as one.
Orc: I can't get up in the morning without grog!!!
Sauron: And those who resist... They will receive alternative methods of education. Cancellation of social benefits, community service. Forced community service and confiscation of pension savings. It's all for your own good, comrades! I just want to save your nation from this sin!
The Orc attacks Sauron.
The Orc is dying.
Sauron: I AM YOUR ONLY SALVATION! WITHOUT ME, YOU'LL ALL GET DRUNK AND ROT IN THE PITS! GO TO HELL WITH CLAIMS!
They decided to pick the least intimidating avtor on the planet to play him
Sauron was a dropout in leadership class.
Sauron is supposed to be a tall, majestic(whether beautiful or frightening), austere, imposing and intimidating being----who by his very nature, commands fear and reverence from friend and foe. Therefore, Orcs wouldn't dare attack him for any reason! Regardless of what he said or did.
Let’s make this clear this can’t happen
Sauron can’t be harmed physically unless you have divine powers or enchanted weapons
Not to mention at his absolute weakest he is country level(at his most powerful you can argue he is star maybe galaxy level plus in a physical form in his prime with the one ring, I can link feats and statements to that )
And would be above the witch king who can’t be killed physically either unless again via enchanted weapons
Otherwise throw Sauron in a sun or black hole he will be unharmed physically
And blades would shatter in contact with him
There is a reason people fear him
And it’s because he can kill you in an instant or mind F you
And you can’t fight back at all once he decides to
Rings of power does him dirty
I thought he didn’t have a physical form like in Lord of the rings
@@kodesh1674 that’s when he was at his weakest even then
Sauron can’t be harmed by anything physical
Meaning throw him into the vacuum of space and have him fall down to earth and he’ll be fine
Meaning that crown those swords would do Jack all to him
They be like trying to fight with feathers
Unless they are enchanted with divine power or magic which they don’t have
Only then can you harm his physical form
Its why narzil the sword that cut the ring from him is so prized its because its one of the only weapons that can harm him
This is not correct. If Sauron takes a physical shape. The limitations of the physical being does constrain him. The body or form can be hurt, damaged or killed but he is spiritual being as a Maia is immortal and cannot be killed.
@@isaacm2374 you are correct however even his body unless you have a power or enchantment of the same nature of Sauron’s body can you harm him otherwise he is like ghost rider where he technically can’t be hurt or injured by anything physically again unless some divine power or weapons are involved
Which is why this scene makes no sense
@ATalesTruth- It wasn't the fact that it was an enchanted sword that it defeated him, it was because it severed him from his power source.
Nerfed Sauron vs brave orcs
I wonder who taught Sauron how to fight because hes actually pretty good
Morgoth probably
I mean if you have been living since the world was created, then I think you might pick up some skills.
He got ripped apart by the Valar dog 😅
He's spawned from Valinor. Just like Gandalf. So he most definitely was trained by one of the Valar
Sauron existed before the world was even a thing, and is veteran of... basically all the wars it has had since the dawn of time. So yeah, he's a supernaturally skilled fighter by default (though not the greatest compared to others of his kind).
He got vibe checked just like Julius Caesar.
Here’s my understanding of this scene. There's a passage in the books that mentions how Sauron was disrespected by the Eastern Orcs, who laughed at him and despised him because they didn’t know his true power. So, the idea that Orcs would defy him isn’t completely out of place. As for the complaints about Sauron appearing weak in this scene: yes, he’s a powerful being, but he was never on the same level as Morgoth, who wielded the most destructive forces in the world. Sauron’s strength lay in more subtle things (corruption, manipulation, and control). Without the One Ring, he’s still incredibly strong, but far from invincible. You could compare him to the wizards: although more powerful, Sauron also has his limits without the Ring. For example, he can’t just unleash devastating magic or summon fire without needing time to recover. So it makes sense that, after being severely wounded by the crown, he would struggle against a group of Orcs. And if that still feels off, remember that the showrunners are aware of how powerful he truly is. After all, his “death” triggers an ice explosion that freezes the entire landscape.
probably the worst tv series of all time!!!
man... Sauron looks like he haven't had Coffee in 2 weeks and only slept 2 hours in the last 3 days
"Melkor Inc. going bankrupt did a number on me... must rally the minimum wage team for one more fight!! LOL"
... Actually make more sense that way. You can't brag to hundred of orcs about being their natural leader without expecting some backstabbing...
If that was Guyladriel she would have had these orcs.... in 10 seconds
I wouldn't be surprised now if morgoth was also killed by elves according to ROP in War of Wrath 😂
Sauron’s mind and power would dominate them into submission
2:49 is hilarious. This looks like a Marvel film.
Good lord, what the hell is this? This is awful.
Why are people in the comments are acting like Sauron was a god, mf'er blew up when one guy cut a ring off his finger.
Yea. That was the only way to "kill" him. He deposited his power onto The Ring when he forged it and a lack of connection (separating it from its body) with it would result in the destruction of his physical form. In the books, he was weakened by an elf and a bunch of Númeróneans (who died during the fight expect Isildur) and then while crippled, he got his finger cut by Isildur. He can also control the orcs at will and I bet no one would dare to betray him.
The writers of the show really didn't read the books.
Not gonna lie, there's issues with this scene, like, Sauron trying to convince orcs to join him like they have a choice (they don't), and getting killed by a few. But it was a dope scene forgetting all that.
You got it until last sentence. All I see in this scene is wasted money and actor's talents, tho they didn't act that great anyway - it's all feels like teenage disney show, aimed at toddlers...
@@cardboard2night to be honest, they didn't waste actor's talents: no actor or actress in this show have any talent....
So a bunch of orcs defeated Sauron.
He was defeated by cutting one of his fingers off his hand, so yeah.
@@tsotne2896 Oh really? Stop justifying this nonsense with your half knowledge of lore.
He wasn't defeated by a cut finger, he lost his ring which he put almost all of his power in it. Even then he wasn't "defeated".
@@tsotne2896 by that point he was so tremendously exhausted that the loss of the ring suddenly lowered his innate strength threshold. When it happened, Sauron could no longer support his physical body, and it collapsed. That can happen to any ainur.
@@ch3rlo_1 if you want me to be specific about the matter, i can do much better - he had his ring put on one of his fingers and cutting it off resulted in losing the one ring which eventually lead to the fact that he was no longer able to regain his physical form and that could be seen as a defeat.
Sauron has been around before the shaping of the world (it's called Arda in TOLKIEN'S universe)and he was one of the Maiar which makes him immortal.
his body wasn't indestructible, but as a spirit he was everlasting. so we could assume that he couldn't be killed.
but after the forging of the one ring, he made himself killable.
"into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all". his immortal soul has been put in the ring and after it was completely destroyed, Sauron was gone with it as well.
@@ch3rlo_1he didnt have the ring yet so shut up
Should have said "Mairon." "Sauron" was an insult to his being.
Right at the start they mention Morgoth. It should have been Melkor.
Morgoth was a name given to him by his enemies🤔
Its so difficult for me to believe that this is supposed to be Sauron. Like watching LotR, what kind of Sauron is that who has no authority over orcs
Sauron wanted to die here. So to ressurect and make adar and the orcs believe later on that even death doesnt hurt Sauron .
Suuuuuuure... You're telling me he's gonna give up his physical body for what, centuries?, just to prove a point?
Yk I was expecting Sauron to have a deep voice
This is not Sauron of the one ring .. this is Sauron before claiming the crown after Morgoth's death... but tbh i enjoyed the idea of orcs not wanting Sauron
For people complaining about this....
"But not until Mordor and the Barad-dûr were ready could he allow them to come out of hiding, while the Eastern Orcs, who had not experienced the power and terror of the Eldar, or the valour of the Edain, were not subservient to Sauron - while he was obliged for the cozening of Western Men and Elves to wear as fair a form and countenance as he could, they despised him and laughed at him. Thus it was that though, as soon as his disguise was pierced and he was recognized as an enemy, he exerted all his time and strength to gathering and training armies, it took some ninety years before he felt ready to open war." - Nature of Middle Earth
"And deep in their dark hearts the Orcs loathed the Master whom they served IN FEAR, the maker only of their misery." There's the answer. They FEARED Morgoth, therefore they FEARED Sauron. This Sauron does not inspire fear, he just tries to convince them to die for him. That's not what Sauron is or does.
Nowhere there is it implied they could kill him, lol Tolkien had a clear history mapped out for Sauron and he never ever would refer to himself as Sauron the Great
lmao what is this? sauron trying to sell tesla?
Sauron:"I AM THE KING."
Tywin Lannister:"Any man who must say: "I am the king." is no true king."
Sauron got Caesar'd.
The Godzilla Sauron was my favourite moment 😅
HE could exterminate all of them in a instant.
It was written like this in the books
This are the Eastern Orcs and this was immediately after Morgoth was defeated..
No it wasn't written like this at all, it's true Eastern Orcs were not loyal to him but it was never written nor implied they could kill him
@@nenaknezevic83 it’s an imaginary movie
Well at least we understand why he left
Are they to show him just walking off?
In the books the coward says "please forgive me"
Then they tell him "go to Valinor, face a process and you might fix things"
But Sauron dipped
funny how all the haters in the comments are being corrected by people who actually know what they're talking about. funny how that goes.
I didn't pick up on the fact that this is a different actor at all. He looked so much like the Annatar form that is played by the same actor as Halbrand that I just thought that it was the same.
Everyone commenting on this acts like he wasn't stabbed in the spine at the beginning of the fight by Adar with a pretty large spike - a very powerful, competent ancient warrior unto himself.
Thing is: he’s stronger then the balrog
And he can change form
He does not use that ability, also I know what Sauron is known for??? What the one ring does too as a apart of him???
MIND CONTROL
Adar never existed in the books
Sauron kinda forgot his own powers...
a lot of the comments below are answered by the fact Sauron does not have the ring of power yet.
He’s the most powerful maiar spirit. The only beings more powerful than him were the valar. He could bend orcs to his will by just looking at them. This show is ridiculous. It’s like 15 year old girl fan fiction.
Voldemort is way scary this guy.
On the next episode, the orcs learn how to pay their taxes
Sauron's speech is much more-- I'll say "interesting", when you realize the racist writers of this show think orcs are standins for people who are black.
alright I'm in... how did you get to that?
He got betrayed not just by Orcs but to his own right hand men who stood beside him which i don't even know who his name is.
His death turned the land to ice.
is that what happened? I mean.. I watched the video... but thanks for clarifying that.
His name is Adar btw.
If Tolkien had seen this scene, he would have wanted to kill himself. SHAME ON YOU
This is not the Tolkien universe I know.
All I needed to see was this scene and I turned the TV off. Truly pathetic how they lessen and reduce Sauron’s status and true power and presence. I’m so glad this is not canon to Tolkien’s lore or PJ’s movies. A fan fiction is all this will ever be
Et tu, Ugruk? Then fall Sauron...!
Sauron being killed by 10 lowly orcs. ... yeah sure
The show is so bad that Sauron let himself be killed 😂
Yeah, this elegant speech is exactly what orcs are starving to hear! This scene have to the vibes of a very scary movie, the bare absurdity of him standing where in this clothes, giving a speech to a crowd of mindlessl bloodthirsty drones.
What is this heresy?!? Orcs could never kill Sauron nor would they ever try.
"Sic semper tyrannis!"
The orcs were obviously the good ones all along.
I legit was gonna watch season 2 and give it a show but this scene is ridiculous
I was just here to see people talk about the cool w/e icy explosion part, but it seems that most of the comments are Tolkien purist wannabes crying over the fact that Sauron is having a chat with the orcs. Poor creatures...but i'll let you guess which one I'm referring to
Witch King: Both God and you master tried and failed to kill you but you got killed by your own weak servants?
Sauron: Skill Issue
Orcs in Rings of Power: *We iz going on strike until we gets ova time and paid leave!*
Bro suddenly became godzilla
Sauron got defeated by a couple of numenoreans and an elf WITH the one ring at the battle of the last alliance. I’m sure some orcs could defeat him without morgoths influence.
What is with this show’s insistence on rolling the R in Sauron? It sounds so stupid.
Raizo would have survived the stabbings
Screw the elves, I cant wait until my boy Sauron does a full comeback to Mordor and literally wipes the floor with fake orc.
I wonder why you kept trimming the video? You kept cutting the best parts, it's annoying.