After 3 months of no contact I realized, I do not want them back... I would rather be lonely then with someone who dumped me and got into a new relationship a month after the break up. Thank you, Paz , your videos helped me during this...
100% My ex monkeybranched to some guy and I have to see them both once a week. She went so far out of her way to rub it in my face that it just disgusts me. Tomorrow will be 30 days no contact and I haven’t once reacted, never even questioned her about the relationship and I feel like it made her mad because she looks pissed every time I see her and stares at me even when she’s with her new guy.
The new person will always be in the background, and you will be sleeping with one eye open. Don’t take a monkey branching ex back ever.. never ever ever. They are just users and abusers. Find someone who wants you for you, and won’t leave you to cheat and start a whole relationship while still being in a relationship.
He’s correct. I’m a few years out and I decided to go no contact so I could heal. I could tell when she was having a hard time with whoever she was with, or between dudes because she would suddenly start hovering. They always come back, don’t fall for it.
They lost me. I tried to get her back so hard and seriously hurt my feelings through out the time. I could not imagine trying to jump into another relationship. This divorce is definitely fucked my mind and soul up. She quickly moved abroad. Left me the house I built for her the dog the car and after eight years you think their would have been some fight from her. I hope she meets someone new and realises nobody is perfect.
Lol my thing is these are the serial dater types. They don’t know how to be single and stay alone. Nope 👎🏽 they’ve gotta be sleeping their way through the sadness. They are never truly single. Always has someone they’re using and leading on. Hence the sneaky links, hook ups, rebound relationships, situationships, etc. It’s actually sad 😔 and yet hilarious 🤣 to watch and realize. You ain’t missing out on anything.
I remember those lovely moments when we would look into each other’s eyes and say sweet nothings embracing each other tight sayings like I love you , I want no one else , I’ll never leave you , after 5 years, 6 months broken up ,she gets married to another guy in less than a month, now I see her as a disgusting human being
She was breadcrumbing me for 3 months and I had enough. She sensed my disconnect and finally became attracted to me. A stranger (her ex) walked up to me and said: ‘she’s all yours’ then walked away. I only then realized that she was in a relationship while dating me. She then monkey-branched toward me but figuratively fell to the ground as she let go of her ex but I wasn’t there for her. I’m very sad to this day because I now realize she was very immature and followed bad advice from her damaged, jealous girlfriends and female family members to be a player/feminist. She is lonely and single 40 years later.
Man I can relate to that last part so much with the toxic friends. When my ex and I were struggling I tried to warn her about her friends how they’re sick and don’t have her best intentions at heart. She thought I was just hating on them because I don’t like them and sure enough she followed their advice and monkeybranched into a relationship with a guy who’s more successful than me. Been 29 days no contact today. I never even reacted or asked her why or how she could do that to me I just walked away. A big part of me hopes she comes back just so I can tell her she lost her chance.
He started sleeping with his ex while we were together. I ended the relationship after 2 years and soon after, started dating my dream man. His ex turned out to be my blessing in disguise and doesn't look like he's with her.
One suggestion… once they return, never give them a closure, never tell them your feelings … act interested but never commit … Just watch and enjoy , they deserve it … And finally go for a person who deserves you ….
My soon to be ex husband monkey branch - rebound to this woman that I don’t understand how in the world he can be with her . Regardless the minute I found out I told him that the were no chance of me ever going back . I don’t want him back , he lost all value, and now I see him with different eyes .
My ex finished me by saying "just go". We arranged to meet the day after to talk and they decided to look after a dog and told me "they will let me know what time" even though we planned to meet in the morning. When that happened I wanted the last say so I ended it. My last relationship was both the dumpee and that has an effect where the first dumpee gets into rebound or sleeps around and the other dumpee gets their life back on track, has no sex, no relationship for weeks and moves on within 6-12 weeks and doesn't look back.
I was essentially one of the many people he monkeyed branched to. I was a placeholder for two years. SMH n I see why ppl left him now. Lol 😂 everything he said the exes did he did directly to me. They tell on themselves. I’m now 2 months come 7/18 from the toxicity n chaos.
We are too toxic for each other. I dont want to go back, and i dont want her to come back to rekindle.. I just want to heal and deattach from the emotional cord after 10 years 😢
@@Winchdon69 I feel you my friend! Take this time for you to DO THE WORK! Heal & grow from this! For $37 - Feel free to check out my Online Healing Coaching Program ➡️ pazgoldman.com/theriseofthephoenix
Can you do a video on being in limbo in the relationship where your not together and everyday is different some days he gives me hope then the next her doesn't
I love all your videos coach Paz . My ex girlfriend was monckey branching behind my back for over 6 months when I found out she left him and get back with me , we were supposed to get married 2 months ago she left me for the same person from last year , my question is can she really make her life with this new dude? Remember our relationship was over 8 years. Thank you 🙏
Hello.. He monkey branched on me with his wife...26 years they are together, they have 2 children ... with me lasted 5 months.. we started dating while they were getting their divorce...I am in no contact..is he going to regret??
Can someone be psychotic enough to be able to completely erase you from their memory through sheer will-power? My ex monkey branched from me in an unhealthy way involving her mother and mother’s friend then blocked me on everything entirely. A lot of external influence in her decision, and picked up the first guy who showed interest - her mother’s friend’s son.
Im angry a myself for how ive handled post breakup. Ex moved on with a guy but has contacted me numerous times “checking on me,thinking bout me”. The last time she did i ended up getting angry and accused her of fucking with my head,breadcrumbing, she even said she isnt so sure bout this new guy, and i still got angry and said im sick of hearing about this guy. I reminded her im still angry about the fact she moved on with someone other than me. Our last convo was good but damn. I feel like a loser. What should i do going forwRd? Is she breadcrumbing me? We were together a decade i dont think her intentions are bad butndamn
Probably not what you want to hear but it's probably time to move on from her. Go no contact start dating again in time. If when enough time has passed and perhaps you've been through a new relationship aswell and you're both single at the time and have both grown and you find yourself naturally moving towards each other again then go for it. A friend of mine recently got married to a high school sweetheart after about 10 years apart. It can happen but don't wait around for it. If you got together again now it would always be on your mind that they could do it again and that's a horrible place to be in.
Set boundaries, my friend. She is using you. Nobody cares about her feelings. She is the one who left you. Let her feel her choice, her mistake, the consequence of leaving a man who was always by her side, through her darkest times . Think about your value. Be polite, but respond as short as possible. Respond like you are indifferent, even if you're not. Stay strong 💪
Establish your boundaries for you, not for her. Self reflect, really know what you want and what you won't accept in a relationship. If she shows signs of being a serial line stepper over your boundaries. Then it's probably not healthy for you, and you need to consider your needs going forward. Be kind to yourself. You deserve the absolute best, and that's hard when you feel your ex was the best for you. However, they have to truly respect you because you respect yourself. They have to have a burning desire for you and not just luke warm ambivalence. They have to want to walk over burning coals, cross mountains, and sail seas to be by your side to passionately love you. If they don't, then they are just weighing options and not serious about the relationship. I'm going thru a similar situation to you, and reading your question and responding to you is helping me to crystallise in my own mind what I need to see. My wife is Avoidant, so there's that, but it's still a conscious decision to cheat. Hope all goes well, brother.
You’re human. You loved her. I have been there too. But after a reasonable amount of time for I made a mistake - she made her very cruel to you choice. Get off the back burner and into YOU
This! Lol they are so desperate to get with anyone! This dude was back hell never left Grindr and was allegedly hooking up with a suspected meth/heroine addict. Which is odd considering how the ex person talked trash about people on drugs. Only for him to run off n allegedly allow a meth/heroine addict stay with them only to kick them out once he realizes he wasn’t getting any booty /sex
@@nickyj2657 no answer. There's statistics. But no answer for you brother. Ride it out, better yourself, get to the point where you believe you deserve better and can get better.
@@BasedLeifEriksson don't think so lol.. That's what I'm dealing with.. 6 years together have a toddler.. moved in with him so damn fast too.. only had her own apartment for like one month.. now my kid is there half the week too... Been 7 months.. still hurts.. still want my family back together again
does monkey branching count even after 5 or 6 yrs broken up? factor in living together/co parenting/unresolved issues on her part. im over the bs. but guy she wants seems less invested more into the sexual part than her.
@thomasthetankengin7722 I so disagree with you. This video was amazing. It's the equivalent of a case study presentation but presented for lay people. The outline is precise. The dialog is gold and descriptive of monkey branch behavior.
Good for you km gay and very attractive it's hard for me. You have 5 to 1 for you so yeah you can move on faster not me. I bet you don't have to go to clubs and shit to meet a girl I do so my shit goes deeper but thanx for support
I dated a covert malignant narcissist with Borderline symptoms too. He does this, tried monkey branching twice, and was angry I exposed him and tried to marry a hidden fiancé within days of my birthday
After 3 months of no contact I realized, I do not want them back... I would rather be lonely then with someone who dumped me and got into a new relationship a month after the break up. Thank you, Paz , your videos helped me during this...
@@martingaspar2245 she dumped me and dated the guy within 2 weeks 😄. Now she's trying to come back
The public disrespect is the worst part
Yes , totally understand..
100%
My ex monkeybranched to some guy and I have to see them both once a week. She went so far out of her way to rub it in my face that it just disgusts me. Tomorrow will be 30 days no contact and I haven’t once reacted, never even questioned her about the relationship and I feel like it made her mad because she looks pissed every time I see her and stares at me even when she’s with her new guy.
The more you are getting disrespected the more she is trying to convince herself and all people around how bad you were.
I come to this chanel every day
to reduce my pain
Same here !
What pain?
The pain you’re creating?
Right there with ya buddy
@@crucifire9224 my wife cheating on me
left me and 2 daughters
The new person will always be in the background, and you will be sleeping with one eye open. Don’t take a monkey branching ex back ever.. never ever ever.
They are just users and abusers. Find someone who wants you for you, and won’t leave you to cheat and start a whole relationship while still being in a relationship.
I totally agree with you.
He’s correct. I’m a few years out and I decided to go no contact so I could heal. I could tell when she was having a hard time with whoever she was with, or between dudes because she would suddenly start hovering. They always come back, don’t fall for it.
Monkeybranchers are cowards, that simple !
They lost me. I tried to get her back so hard and seriously hurt my feelings through out the time. I could not imagine trying to jump into another relationship. This divorce is definitely fucked my mind and soul up. She quickly moved abroad. Left me the house I built for her the dog the car and after eight years you think their would have been some fight from her. I hope she meets someone new and realises nobody is perfect.
At least you got the house
@@MrCallingoccupants yes well I had to buy her out of it £150,000
I love the way you explain everything.
I’m healed. Thank You
4 months of suffering....begging chasing .....nothing in return....now fed up....tired....no more now
Lol my thing is these are the serial dater types. They don’t know how to be single and stay alone. Nope 👎🏽 they’ve gotta be sleeping their way through the sadness. They are never truly single. Always has someone they’re using and leading on. Hence the sneaky links, hook ups, rebound relationships, situationships, etc. It’s actually sad 😔 and yet hilarious 🤣 to watch and realize. You ain’t missing out on anything.
I remember those lovely moments when we would look into each other’s eyes and say sweet nothings embracing each other tight sayings like I love you , I want no one else , I’ll never leave you , after 5 years, 6 months broken up ,she gets married to another guy in less than a month, now I see her as a disgusting human being
She was breadcrumbing me for 3 months and I had enough.
She sensed my disconnect and finally became attracted to me.
A stranger (her ex) walked up to me and said: ‘she’s all yours’ then walked away.
I only then realized that she was in a relationship while dating me.
She then monkey-branched toward me but figuratively fell to the ground as she let go of her ex but I wasn’t there for her.
I’m very sad to this day because I now realize she was very immature and followed bad advice from her damaged, jealous girlfriends and female family members to be a player/feminist.
She is lonely and single 40 years later.
Man I can relate to that last part so much with the toxic friends. When my ex and I were struggling I tried to warn her about her friends how they’re sick and don’t have her best intentions at heart. She thought I was just hating on them because I don’t like them and sure enough she followed their advice and monkeybranched into a relationship with a guy who’s more successful than me. Been 29 days no contact today. I never even reacted or asked her why or how she could do that to me I just walked away. A big part of me hopes she comes back just so I can tell her she lost her chance.
He still blames me....typical narcissist....doesn't want to come back because he wants to prove to his family that he was not wrong
That’s not what a narc does
@@Bloodsport1337 means
Narcissists can't admit that they made a mistake
like having it written out. It takes it to the next level of learning. Hear it see it. At last someone who draws as bad as I do on the computer.
He started sleeping with his ex while we were together. I ended the relationship after 2 years and soon after, started dating my dream man. His ex turned out to be my blessing in disguise and doesn't look like he's with her.
One suggestion… once they return, never give them a closure, never tell them your feelings … act interested but never commit …
Just watch and enjoy , they deserve it …
And finally go for a person who deserves you ….
My soon to be ex husband monkey branch - rebound to this woman that I don’t understand how in the world he can be with her . Regardless the minute I found out I told him that the were no chance of me ever going back . I don’t want him back , he lost all value, and now I see him with different eyes .
My ex finished me by saying "just go". We arranged to meet the day after to talk and they decided to look after a dog and told me "they will let me know what time" even though we planned to meet in the morning. When that happened I wanted the last say so I ended it. My last relationship was both the dumpee and that has an effect where the first dumpee gets into rebound or sleeps around and the other dumpee gets their life back on track, has no sex, no relationship for weeks and moves on within 6-12 weeks and doesn't look back.
Thank you Coach ❤️
You’re welcome my dear friend, always here for you 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
@@PazGoldmanOfficial 🥺🥺🙌🏼yesss same here
I was essentially one of the many people he monkeyed branched to. I was a placeholder for two years. SMH n I see why ppl left him now. Lol 😂 everything he said the exes did he did directly to me. They tell on themselves. I’m now 2 months come 7/18 from the toxicity n chaos.
Might even take 2 years - there is no timeframe
It’s not a quick process - takes time to heal, go with the pain & learn from it
We are too toxic for each other. I dont want to go back, and i dont want her to come back to rekindle.. I just want to heal and deattach from the emotional cord after 10 years 😢
@@Winchdon69 I feel you my friend!
Take this time for you to DO THE WORK! Heal & grow from this!
For $37 - Feel free to check out my Online Healing Coaching Program ➡️ pazgoldman.com/theriseofthephoenix
Can you do a video on being in limbo in the relationship where your not together and everyday is different some days he gives me hope then the next her doesn't
How about with Avoidants? They rarely self reflect but can still hit you up.
I love all your videos coach Paz . My ex girlfriend was monckey branching behind my back for over 6 months when I found out she left him and get back with me , we were supposed to get married 2 months ago she left me for the same person from last year , my question is can she really make her life with this new dude? Remember our relationship was over 8 years.
Thank you 🙏
She might do, either way if she comes crawling back. Tell her nah u r ok.hahha
Hey coach
How do we act around our ex (monkey branched) when we are in the same work environment together/career program?
Grey Rock I am in the same boat as you, i just have to ignore her completly, we have noother choice or find a new job...
Hello.. He monkey branched on me with his wife...26 years they are together, they have 2 children ... with me lasted 5 months.. we started dating while they were getting their divorce...I am in no contact..is he going to regret??
Can someone be psychotic enough to be able to completely erase you from their memory through sheer will-power? My ex monkey branched from me in an unhealthy way involving her mother and mother’s friend then blocked me on everything entirely. A lot of external influence in her decision, and picked up the first guy who showed interest - her mother’s friend’s son.
Im angry a myself for how ive handled post breakup. Ex moved on with a guy but has contacted me numerous times “checking on me,thinking bout me”. The last time she did i ended up getting angry and accused her of fucking with my head,breadcrumbing, she even said she isnt so sure bout this new guy, and i still got angry and said im sick of hearing about this guy. I reminded her im still angry about the fact she moved on with someone other than me. Our last convo was good but damn. I feel like a loser. What should i do going forwRd? Is she breadcrumbing me? We were together a decade i dont think her intentions are bad butndamn
Probably not what you want to hear but it's probably time to move on from her. Go no contact start dating again in time. If when enough time has passed and perhaps you've been through a new relationship aswell and you're both single at the time and have both grown and you find yourself naturally moving towards each other again then go for it.
A friend of mine recently got married to a high school sweetheart after about 10 years apart. It can happen but don't wait around for it. If you got together again now it would always be on your mind that they could do it again and that's a horrible place to be in.
Set boundaries, my friend. She is using you. Nobody cares about her feelings. She is the one who left you. Let her feel her choice, her mistake, the consequence of leaving a man who was always by her side, through her darkest times . Think about your value. Be polite, but respond as short as possible. Respond like you are indifferent, even if you're not.
Stay strong 💪
Establish your boundaries for you, not for her. Self reflect, really know what you want and what you won't accept in a relationship. If she shows signs of being a serial line stepper over your boundaries. Then it's probably not healthy for you, and you need to consider your needs going forward.
Be kind to yourself. You deserve the absolute best, and that's hard when you feel your ex was the best for you. However, they have to truly respect you because you respect yourself. They have to have a burning desire for you and not just luke warm ambivalence. They have to want to walk over burning coals, cross mountains, and sail seas to be by your side to passionately love you. If they don't, then they are just weighing options and not serious about the relationship.
I'm going thru a similar situation to you, and reading your question and responding to you is helping me to crystallise in my own mind what I need to see. My wife is Avoidant, so there's that, but it's still a conscious decision to cheat. Hope all goes well, brother.
You are dealing with a narcissist, she is playing you like a fool go no contact and get your value up.
You’re human. You loved her. I have been there too. But after a reasonable amount of time for I made a mistake - she made her very cruel to you choice. Get off the back burner and into YOU
This! Lol they are so desperate to get with anyone! This dude was back hell never left Grindr and was allegedly hooking up with a suspected meth/heroine addict. Which is odd considering how the ex person talked trash about people on drugs. Only for him to run off n allegedly allow a meth/heroine addict stay with them only to kick them out once he realizes he wasn’t getting any booty /sex
You are the effin man 😂
Are Monkie branching and when an avoidant left you for someone else isn't the same situation?
How long can a monkey branching relationship last? My ex been with hers over a year
@@nickyj2657 no answer. There's statistics. But no answer for you brother. Ride it out, better yourself, get to the point where you believe you deserve better and can get better.
They can last forever.
@@Bloodsport1337 nothing lasts forever
@@MrCallingoccupants not true
Unfortunately you have to tell yourself that they aren't coming back! Work on yourself and get someone better, someone you deserve
what if they monkey branched in a short term relationship
Proverbs 21: 19
I’m guessing that this doesn’t apply to narcissists?
@@BasedLeifEriksson don't think so lol.. That's what I'm dealing with.. 6 years together have a toddler.. moved in with him so damn fast too.. only had her own apartment for like one month.. now my kid is there half the week too... Been 7 months.. still hurts.. still want my family back together again
does monkey branching count even after 5 or 6 yrs broken up? factor in living together/co parenting/unresolved issues on her part. im over the bs. but guy she wants seems less invested more into the sexual part than her.
Dude, I like your content but this could have been 10m.
@@thomasthetankengin7722 no it couldn't - his words are soothing
@@callofdutybloginfo yep but he jumps from one thing to another and takes 5m to make a point that required only 1
@@thomasthetankengin7722 I have no such problem
@thomasthetankengin7722 I so disagree with you. This video was amazing. It's the equivalent of a case study presentation but presented for lay people. The outline is precise. The dialog is gold and descriptive of monkey branch behavior.
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Good for you km gay and very attractive it's hard for me. You have 5 to 1 for you so yeah you can move on faster not me. I bet you don't have to go to clubs and shit to meet a girl I do so my shit goes deeper but thanx for support
I dated a covert malignant narcissist with Borderline symptoms too. He does this, tried monkey branching twice, and was angry I exposed him and tried to marry a hidden fiancé within days of my birthday