The 'viper in a diaper' guy makes my heart hurt. So many people justify abuse of infants and children with this horrible logic. I was one of those children. When I had my own child, I did a lot of research into child psychology, I wanted to understand how an infant understood the world around them. The answer? They DON'T. It takes at least 6 months before an infant even has any sense of self at all. They don't see other people as separate from themselves. And then I had her... and she only cried when she had a reason to. Hungry, lonely, dirty, frightened... How is it 'manipulative' for her to communicate in the only way she could, to say "please don't let me starve" "I'm all alone and scared" "I'm cold"?? I'd been deconstructing for a long time, and letting go of the concept of original sin was one of the last things.
The whole baby section made me remember a Sunday school teacher who told us that baby Jesus could never have cried because crying is a sin and I suddenly realized holy crap, that's probably why I try so hard never to cry in front of people
It's gross. Their spaul-ing all over the place.. Heavenly Father told Good People "Adam and Eve," not to do one thing that will hurt them; one thing that would kill them.. They got tricked. They sinned; yet they received mercy; Father didn't kill them. He didn't send them directly to hell... The First Response of Heavenly Father toward us was Mercy... Today we have HIS Commandments and Messiah is our Perfect example... We don't have to sin. Almost 2,000 years since Messiah arose from the dead. The saints are worn out by the beast (the roman cannon/spaul; )for a time. All sin is not equal... pagan rome put those lies in "the bible". The Truth is available Today.. We don't have to obey the devil worshipping s-paul/romans... We can be like Messiah and do what Father told us to do... This "content creator" has his own reasons for his sin/lies/degradation. He shouldn't try to Judge Heavenly Father. We are victims of a roman hijacking of Our Messiahs' Message.. That's why the Churches look more like a circus than synagogues. Find out how to turn "the tide" on the lefty depopulationists. Read ebook "A Labyrinth In Time" by YT Rhyms. Spaul was a psycho!!! He killed many Christians, he never showed any remorse, compassion, nor empathy. No justice. He never even made a stinking apology. He never took a collection for the victims families he killed. Not because he was too shy to ask for money, he demanded a tithe from the poor.. He cursed The Angels of Heaven, You, me and every Christian that ever taught from Matthew, Mark, Luke or John… Spaul says in Galatians 1;8 “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” Which of the commandments did spaul free you from? You shall not covert your neighbors ... You shall not kill? You shall not steal? Don’t lay with a menstruating Wife? No, but he picked no circumcision. He sounds like a smegma fan. Oh, and spaul said he is free from every law; so you can’t blame him for sht. Messiah is circumcised. Will you face Him with your smeg stanking in the breeze, standing before Him? Will you say, “spaul said circumcision is a curse..?” We're Saved by The Blood of Messiah!!! not spauls gospel. How silly is the sissy spaul? A bragging roman/pharisee; killer of innocent Christians? According to The Law, spaul would have been put to death for murdering the innocent... Who was this miserable punk to tell Women to keep silent? What about Mary Madeline? What about Messiahs' mother, should they be silenced? Woman can’t speak in Church? I thought he said, they are not under The Law? According to spaul, disagreeing with his gospel is damnation… Everything else was cool though? Messiah never said that junk. Come on People! A change like that, He would have fore told us about. spaul calls himself a roman and a pharisee; yet he never repented on their behalf, for Killing Messiah. spaul said there is no male nor female in Christ. More gender confusion. Freed from the law of being a closet cornholer? Like the roman priests? How pompous it is for scholars to think, that Jews didn't know how to read and write? True Hebrews have no idles, YHVH is found in His Word. What kind of disciple doesn't take notes? Mary had to have written part of The Testament of Messiah. There IS Only One Hebrew Testament of Messiah, later translated and named "Matthew". It was originally written in Hebrew, by 1. Mary 2. the disciples 3. Written or dictated by Messiah HimSelf! Some events were only witnessed by them/Him. Examples: 1. Mary - An Angel spoke to Joseph, Messiahs Birth, Wise Men Worshiping, Messiah and His Childhood travels. 2. The Disciples: The Transfiguration, only Messiah, Peter, James and John was there. 3. Messiah Only: the devils 3 Temptations 3.a. Messiah praying while the disciples slept. Matthew" is the 40th Inspired Hebrew Book in The Bible. The Last Inspired Book in The Bible... Daniel 7 says that the beast (rome) would wear the saints. Did this happen? Yes. By killing our Messiah, the disciples; and then deceiving believers for almost2,000 years? Sometimes the simplest explanation is True. The Hebrews wrote in Hebrew, the romans wrote in greek. Hebrews were inspired By Heavenly Father, romans were inspired by demons. The Covenant Father made with man is with Abrahams' seed, rome makes covenant hell... The Holy City is Jerusalem, rome is a den of snakes... Children of Messiah are Jews, Messiah is a Jew... sons of rome are pagans... The so-called modern scholars, like to say Mark was written first. Because it is the least flattering. Under this assumption the least accurate or degraded document would be called first/original. No; Mark was written by a roman stooge, tranzlater, copying from “Matthew” in roman; to corrupt and destroy the message of Messiah? Matthew and Luke are a contradiction... Beginning with the genealogies. Matthew said the woman held Him by the feet and worshipped Him. Luke says that Jesus said, don't touch me for I have not yet ascended to My Father. Spaul contradicts all The 40 Hebrew Inspired Books including “Matthew”. The Old Testament so called "contradictions" or copy errors are few and can be easily explained with proper translation. In the greek/roman/ "New Testament", there are many irreconcilable differences. Because only “Matthew” was originally written in Hebrew. Anomalously/untitled. It is “The Testament of Messiah,” the last Inspired book. (example - Hebrew Matthew Shem Tov) The roman/greek books that fallow are roman lies, propaganda and contradictions. Wake up brothers and sisters! Heavenly Father didn't start speaking greek after they killed His Only Begotten Son. What do you think pilot did when the soldiers told him that the disciples stole Messiahs’ body? The pharisees and Rome had 2,000 years to clean up the records; it's still filthy… more filthy.. While nero was burning Christian Children as torches, to light his pagan garden parties. spaul praises rome, worshiping in greek with blasphemy and lies. spaul says in Romans 1: 8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. (This is a lie.) 9 For God is my witness, whom I serve [b]with my spirit in the gospel of His Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers.. (This is a lie.) Where was the plan to get the Christian Children out of rome? spaul was not interested in that. Rome is the beast of Daniel 7 that wears out the saints for a season. (with the roman cannon) Times Up!!! Jesus is coming soon. Heavenly Father Bless You... For More, Read “A Labyrinth In Time” by YT Rhyms; www.amazon.com/Labyrinth-Time-Y-T-Rhyms-ebook/dp/B0BMWKFLCG/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1B3V9KA85ZCBH&keywords=ebook+Poems+A+Labyrinth+In+Time&qid=1670960840&sprefix=ebook+poems+a+labyrinth+in+time%2Caps%2C152&sr=8-1
Even ignoring how incredibly unhealthy it is to act like crying is an act of evil, isn't Jesus commonly depicted as having cried in Gethesmane before???
A baby that doesn't cry on birth is dead. That is biological and medical fact. A Bible Baptist classmate of mine in high school once claimed in an English class that babies first cry after birth because they want attention and that points to Original Sin. Now what fundamentalist stupidity is this?
I've always hated the "were born sinful" because I feel that fuels this whole "your children manipulate you" narrative. Like no, your baby isn't crying bc they're malicious, they need soemthing
"I want mommy, I want milk, I want to be held😩, I want to be comforted, and if you do not do all these things immediately, I will ruin your life 👶🔪" -Dennis prager
I remember visiting a Baptist church because a friend invited me there because they were having a dinner afterwards. Anyway, the pastor there was talking about how babies were sinners or something along that line. That bothered me because I always thought that babies were innocent. All they do is eat, sleep, cry, and poop! I never said anything about it because I don't want to cause a scene.
My mother still says “it’s hard to believe that sweet face is rotten to its core, but it is. We are all born sinful.” We don’t visit Mamaw anymore. Being an atheist has been the first time I’ve experienced peace in my whole life.
@@Jezebel066Always be there for your mother and always help her as long as she is not abusive towards you. As for her beliefs, throw them in the trash. Tell her you will always love her and help her, but you refuse to follow the twisted doctrine of Original sin aswell as organised religion in general. If she really loves you she will accept these terms.
My youth leader, (who was also my Uncle) once asked me to show him where in the bible it said that babies go to heaven. Which I couldn’t do. My little brother died at two days old because he was born with hypoplastic left heart syndrome. A condition that back in ‘87 made him “incompatible with life”. So according to my faith community, my brother was fearfully and wonderfully made… and destined for hell. I credit my uncle with opening the door that led me out of fundamentalism. He caused years of internal torment before I finally realized it was all BS, but in the end I’m free and he (unintentionally) led me there.
Your uncle sounds like a narcissistic and cruel piece of shit. Saying your dead brother went to hell because he's a baby is just an awful thing to say. I want nothing of what he considers, "love."
He didn't. The bible has been used to support arguments for both inclusivest (those who never hear the gospel may be saved), and exclusivest salvation (only those who hear the gospel and recognize Jesus as their savior will be saved). Because the bible is not clear or concise, different groups within Christianity have taken different positions. The group I was part of (the Plymouth Brethren) took the most severe stance, barring even infants from heaven. When writing in 1899 about infant baptism (and how it is pagan) Sir Robert Anderson wrote: "Here is an infant, born but yesterday, and yet so frail and sickly that its young life may flicker out at any moment. The question arises, If it should die, what is to be its future? If it dies in its present condition, we are told it must be lost, heaven it cannot enter. But, we plead, the poor creature does not know its right hand from its left ; it is absolutely innocent. Why should it be thus punished? Personally innocent, yes, we are answered; but by natural generation it belongs to the fallen race, and Adam's sin must banish it to hell." That was the position my church held.
"We shouldn't have SELF Esteem, but should have CHRIST Esteem" 🤢 That's what I've heard so often from the time I was in middle school, growing up as a Fundie, and I'm still wrestling with that to this day (to the point where I don't even know the definitions of Self Love and Self Esteem actually are and how to express them in a healthy way)
@@rachel_sj I heard that all the fucking time. Needless to say, my self esteem and mental health improved considerably after I deconstructed from Christianity.
@@rachel_sj I was told similar things growing up - that you should always be what the invisible man in the sky wants you to be! The very idea of being your own person was forbidden because you are not your own: the invisible man in the sky bought you with a price of his blood that flowed from a dead guy on a stick about 2,000 years ago! Well, all I have to say is that this purchase is null and void.
Something I have yet to get a good answer to is how Adam and Eve could possibly have committed a sin by "eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil" if before eating from that tree they didn't know what good and evil were and therefore could not know what this disobedience or sin was.
Beacuse the Church lies to you about everything, including the theology. By eating the fruit they did not disobey god it is simply that God told them what it will do. You eat the fruit and indead the snake is shown a liar. You gain a power beyond God. You gain the power to know the difference between good and evil, god does not have this power and this is how he remains blameless. God does not have this knowledge, you are ganger than he is. Eating the fruit of life is what would make you like God, it would make you immortal. This is why we had to be kicked out, God holds our mortality over us. You can not go to Hell, nobody can. Nobody who would have eternal life. You just pass away. Ever wonder why the Jews don't tend to believe in Hell? It is not in their book, not in Genesis, not in the old testament. They never tell you the truth. From the word go they are not telling you the truth.
My favorite point. Hell, our legal system won't hold someone responsible if they are not mentally competent, which would describe A&E pretty well; they would have believed anyone or done anything anyone told them to, without the ability to tell right from wrong! Would you blame the kid who shot someone, or the parent who left the gun on the table? Esp if that parent was supposed to be omniscient, which means they HAD to know what was happening at the time. Besides, if it was SO important that mankind be kept in our original state, and God is truly All-Powerful, then why not simply dissolve the OS from their souls with a snap of his fingers? He can do anything! Just pluck the new knowledge of good and evil right out of their heads! Unless Sin is stronger than God...Or if the blood sacrifice was really somehow the ONLY way he could "fix" people, then why not do so right away, instead of waiting for thousands of years worth of pain, misery and death, when he could have done it in Adam's own lifetime? No good answers coming for any of these...
You may or may not find this compelling, but my understanding (currently a former christian) is that Adam and Eve knew that they weren't supposed to eat from the tree. "Evil" as christians define it is breaking God's law. Adam and Eve knew that they were supposed to do as God said and thus by the christian's definition, they did know what good and evil were. As for why the tree is called the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, your guess is as good as mine, perhaps it's an allegory or perhaps it's because they didn't learn of the consequences of their actions until they broke the rule.
it at least explains why they’re so keen on beating their children. they interpret a small, defenseless, unknowing creature as consciously defying and antagonizing them by using their only means of communication to voice their body’s needs. in a way, their view of babies mirrors god’s view of adam and eve.
@@stevenbatke2475 Absolutely. Here in Texas, anti-abortionists pay to put up billboards saying "Abortion stops a beating heart." I guess the goal is to guilt people into protecting "innocent" babies. Strange how that innocence seems to disappear when the first diaper goes on.
I had an argument with a born again coworker over original sin once and how "god is allegedly all knowing all powerful". His whole defense boiled down to hand waiving it away and saying "Our mortal minds simply can't comprehend the motives and plans of a higher being". That stuck with me because he relinquished all critical thought willingly and eagerly. I was blown away.
I hate it whenever people just give up. Maybe persistence is just part of my personality. If it's really that important to him, why would he give up understanding it?
There is so much that we don't understand. For example, everyone feel the gravity, see how it does to us and objects yet no one can explain what it is. There are theories out there we've learnt in school and taken as fact, until the model can't explain the new phenomenon. It takes a leap of faith to do so. One doesn't have to believe in gravity, yet can suffer the consequence. If one think he/she can cheat and get away with it. He/She is self-deceived, arrogant and prideful of thinking he/she somehow can play by a different reality and everyone else is a fool. Indeed, he/she may get away with it a few time, but the result is it weaken the characters (with the exception of psychopaths but sometime they getting slippery). If a person wants to be strong, he/she must realize she/she is weak and therefore hit the gym with proper diet. To think one is already strong and hype up with notion that everyone else is weak is a fatal understanding.
@miaomiaochan No, my point was about the law of consequence. Gravity is an example for "man reaps what he sows". But yes, if you can strawman an argument why bother to use "critical thinking". Dare if you must to reach down to the bottom of your soul and examize honestly all the thoughts and actions you done and that will sum of why you're at the current state. But i doubt it until you have a crisis you won't do so like most people.
@@ianbuick8946people can explain gravity just fine and have been able to do so for many, many, maaaaany years, but to sum up extremely basic facts about it for you. Objects have a thing called mass, more mass means the objects have a stronger gravity, it's just not an effect that really kicks in until you get to incredibly large, dense objects like, oh, planets, or suns. This is some basic stuff, it's only a scientific 'theory' in so much as that basically everything in science, no matter how well-proven, is still a theory, because there may be aspects relating to it that are not fully understood yet, such as what the effects of extreme gravity around things such as black holes are. Congratulations, you have fallen for the classic 'god of the gaps'. Thing you don't understand? God. Thing you don't like not having a single unchanging answer to? God.
"Babies cry because they're evil" is some "To Train Up a Child" bullshit, like it's not just not funny it's literally encouraging abuse. Hearing that extended laughter is legit bringing me back to being a kid hearing church group parents trade "funny anecdotes" about hitting their children, and just that helpless realization that everyone around you is fucking insane.
Life gets so much brighter when you're not terrified that any thought or feeling you have is ontological evil. It's hard to break free from that mindset, but it's so worth it
Agreed - once you realize that "good" and "evil" are merely social constructs that are defined by humans, for humans you are free to create your own concepts of "right" and "wrong" and put them into practice for yourself instead of living by the arbitrary rules attributed to some invisible man in the sky!
Tbh this is one of the reasons I reject Christianity. This idea that we are always guilty. It’s so negative at its base. Our whole life will have to be filled with asking for forgiveness for just existing.
I never believed and was instantly insulted when I was told (as a little girl). I'm Autistic I have very firm beliefs when it comes to equality. When you think of the way "God" sets up this situation it's simply a narcissistic parent fucking with his kids lives because he can't handle his own shit. This abuse and gross and wrong. ESPECIALLY the damage this set up does to Eve. Jesus is his "golden child", Satan is the "scapegoat" (and the goat part of that label is not lost on me), He mobilizes his different angels to punish Lucifer because Lucifer isn't perfect and he is God's younger reflection.
The lasting damage of learning that I was "born evil" as a child has stuck with me into adulthood and I think is part of the origin of my depression, alcohol abuse and low self esteem.
That’s also something about traditional Christianity I never could subscribe to. There are other belief systems that more perfectly balance this idea of right and wrong. I’m personally a Latter Day Saint and I think that out of all Christianity dominations this one beat balances this idea with more traditional ideas of Adam and Eve. While I’m not trying to convert anyone, I would recommend you read up on Latter Day Saints and the original sin of your curious on a much more nuanced and less guilt trippy view of our selves in a Christian context
@@tulip811Well tbf, poems aren't divinely inspired. The bible that says only professing jesus with your mouth saves you from hell is apparently inspired, though. So baby burning isn't an out there idea, at least within a christian framework
@@tulip811 dude I know I was FLOORED when he told me that as a kid 😭 I never agreed with him then and I certainly don’t now as an adult who left the church and the faith.
@@bariumselenided5152 and my dad is an exegetical preacher so it’s verse by verse and taking everything VERY literally so for him it makes sense but that doesn’t make it less horrifying and brutal
I really appreicate your format of playing sermons and responding to them; it avoids straw man fallacies and shields against "well that's just that one church/sect/pastor." Plus the movie/tv clips you play along them make it bearable 😂
I tried confronting my mother's beliefs yesterday, and letting her know just how much harm it's done to me, my siblings, and her grandchildren. She shut down and told me that nothing I do, nothing I say, will ever change her belief. She refuses to admit she is wrong. She became a born-again Christian 17 years ago. I felt like I was losing my mother then. And now, it feels like I've lost her all over again to this cult of viciousness and manipulation and fear. I don't know what to do. Your videos have helped me so much. I want to show her this, in hopes that it could make some sort of difference. That it could break her out of her cycle of self-harm and harm to others. But I fear nothing will. Thank you for making it this far, and I'm glad to have been a long-time watcher. I hope things will get better soon. If anyone else is going through this, losing their loved ones... You're not alone.
Conservatives of all religions can never admit they are wrong. That's why they can't learn history in a way that helps them improve their worldview. All they can do is keep repeating it, only better next time.
You may come to a point when, for your own mental and emotional health, you need to avoid the topic with your mom. In my family we talk about food and the weather.
I grew up a form of methodist; those "fearfully and wonderfuly made"/"made in gods image" type of folk. Out of all the trouble I had, I somehow escaped (for the most part) being told I was awful by nature. My husband, on the other hand, was southern Baptist. We visited his side of the family in the Bible Belt South and politely attended church with them. The service started out with a baby dedication, with several newborns and one newly adopted 10 year old boy standing in the row alongside parents holding their babies. The pastor began preaching and started out pleasantly enough saying how these children were "wonderful children of god." But then pivoted with his full chest, proclaimed: "and they are all dirty sinners to their CORE." My methodist raised mind could not understand. I had only ever seen things like that said on TV! I still think about that 10 year old boy :/
All superstitions are bad, but the Southern Baptists and the Evangelicalism it inspires are a version of the old religion that was so perverted from justifying the sin of slavery that it never recovered and only got worse over time.
imagine trying to logic out that BABIES are evil. literally dont even understand the concept of "good" or "bad" things. all they know is what stimulus brings pain or not, and half the time they guess wrong about that too
@@_crowfisherThey don't believe that. They really think even babies choose. They believe they have the capacity to act like an adult and don't because they haven't had the sin punished out of them yet. I grew up Southern Baptist and instead of the sin of Adam being, like, "instead of a perfect world everyone is capable of evil and will die," they see it as "everyone IS evil and deserving of Hell unless they convert to my specific theology."
Did your church give you the girl talk about how it's our fault if we receive unwanted sexual attention? I was 7 years old and an old church lady explained my "virtue" is the only good thing to hold on to and if you have sex before marriage you are as disgusting as a chewed up and discarded piece of gum.
I would love to see someone try to use this logic in court. "Your honor, it's unfair to blame me for the death of my baby, I told them not to drink that bleach before I let them play unsupervised under my sink." Teaching someone that they're fundamentally evil and worthy of punishment in a way that is entirely out of their control is also a great way to get them to automatically internalize and blame themselves for everything if you, say, decide to abuse them for years and years in secret.
It's gross. Their spaul-ing all over the place.. Heavenly Father told Good People "Adam and Eve," not to do one thing that will hurt them; one thing that would kill them.. They got tricked. They sinned; yet they received mercy; Father didn't kill them. He didn't send them directly to hell... The First Response of Heavenly Father toward us was Mercy... Today we have HIS Commandments and Messiah is our Perfect example... We don't have to sin. Almost 2,000 years since Messiah arose from the dead. The saints are worn out by the beast (the roman cannon/spaul; )for a time. All sin is not equal... pagan rome put those lies in "the bible". The Truth is available Today.. We don't have to obey the devil worshipping s-paul/romans... We can be like Messiah and do what Father told us to do... This "content creator" has his own reasons for his sin/lies/degradation. He shouldn't try to Judge Heavenly Father. We are victims of a roman hijacking of Our Messiahs' Message.. That's why the Churches look more like a circus than synagogues. Find out how to turn "the tide" on the lefty depopulationists. Read ebook "A Labyrinth In Time" by YT Rhyms. Spaul was a psycho!!! He killed many Christians, he never showed any remorse, compassion, nor empathy. No justice. He never even made a stinking apology. He never took a collection for the victims families he killed. Not because he was too shy to ask for money, he demanded a tithe from the poor.. He cursed The Angels of Heaven, You, me and every Christian that ever taught from Matthew, Mark, Luke or John… Spaul says in Galatians 1;8 “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” Which of the commandments did spaul free you from? You shall not covert your neighbors ... You shall not kill? You shall not steal? Don’t lay with a menstruating Wife? No, but he picked no circumcision. He sounds like a smegma fan. Oh, and spaul said he is free from every law; so you can’t blame him for sht. Messiah is circumcised. Will you face Him with your smeg stanking in the breeze, standing before Him? Will you say, “spaul said circumcision is a curse..?” We're Saved by The Blood of Messiah!!! not spauls gospel. How silly is the sissy spaul? A bragging roman/pharisee; killer of innocent Christians? According to The Law, spaul would have been put to death for murdering the innocent... Who was this miserable punk to tell Women to keep silent? What about Mary Madeline? What about Messiahs' mother, should they be silenced? Woman can’t speak in Church? I thought he said, they are not under The Law? According to spaul, disagreeing with his gospel is damnation… Everything else was cool though? Messiah never said that junk. Come on People! A change like that, He would have fore told us about. spaul calls himself a roman and a pharisee; yet he never repented on their behalf, for Killing Messiah. spaul said there is no male nor female in Christ. More gender confusion. Freed from the law of being a closet cornholer? Like the roman priests? How pompous it is for scholars to think, that Jews didn't know how to read and write? True Hebrews have no idles, YHVH is found in His Word. What kind of disciple doesn't take notes? Mary had to have written part of The Testament of Messiah. There IS Only One Hebrew Testament of Messiah, later translated and named "Matthew". It was originally written in Hebrew, by 1. Mary 2. the disciples 3. Written or dictated by Messiah HimSelf! Some events were only witnessed by them/Him. Examples: 1. Mary - An Angel spoke to Joseph, Messiahs Birth, Wise Men Worshiping, Messiah and His Childhood travels. 2. The Disciples: The Transfiguration, only Messiah, Peter, James and John was there. 3. Messiah Only: the devils 3 Temptations 3.a. Messiah praying while the disciples slept. Matthew" is the 40th Inspired Hebrew Book in The Bible. The Last Inspired Book in The Bible... Daniel 7 says that the beast (rome) would wear the saints. Did this happen? Yes. By killing our Messiah, the disciples; and then deceiving believers for almost2,000 years? Sometimes the simplest explanation is True. The Hebrews wrote in Hebrew, the romans wrote in greek. Hebrews were inspired By Heavenly Father, romans were inspired by demons. The Covenant Father made with man is with Abrahams' seed, rome makes covenant hell... The Holy City is Jerusalem, rome is a den of snakes... Children of Messiah are Jews, Messiah is a Jew... sons of rome are pagans... The so-called modern scholars, like to say Mark was written first. Because it is the least flattering. Under this assumption the least accurate or degraded document would be called first/original. No; Mark was written by a roman stooge, tranzlater, copying from “Matthew” in roman; to corrupt and destroy the message of Messiah? Matthew and Luke are a contradiction... Beginning with the genealogies. Matthew said the woman held Him by the feet and worshipped Him. Luke says that Jesus said, don't touch me for I have not yet ascended to My Father. Spaul contradicts all The 40 Hebrew Inspired Books including “Matthew”. The Old Testament so called "contradictions" or copy errors are few and can be easily explained with proper translation. In the greek/roman/ "New Testament", there are many irreconcilable differences. Because only “Matthew” was originally written in Hebrew. Anomalously/untitled. It is “The Testament of Messiah,” the last Inspired book. (example - Hebrew Matthew Shem Tov) The roman/greek books that fallow are roman lies, propaganda and contradictions. Wake up brothers and sisters! Heavenly Father didn't start speaking greek after they killed His Only Begotten Son. What do you think pilot did when the soldiers told him that the disciples stole Messiahs’ body? The pharisees and Rome had 2,000 years to clean up the records; it's still filthy… more filthy.. While nero was burning Christian Children as torches, to light his pagan garden parties. spaul praises rome, worshiping in greek with blasphemy and lies. spaul says in Romans 1: 8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. (This is a lie.) 9 For God is my witness, whom I serve [b]with my spirit in the gospel of His Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers.. (This is a lie.) Where was the plan to get the Christian Children out of rome? spaul was not interested in that. Rome is the beast of Daniel 7 that wears out the saints for a season. (with the roman cannon) Times Up!!! Jesus is coming soon. Heavenly Father Bless You... For More, Read “A Labyrinth In Time” by YT Rhyms; www.amazon.com/Labyrinth-Time-Y-T-Rhyms-ebook/dp/B0BMWKFLCG/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1B3V9KA85ZCBH&keywords=ebook+Poems+A+Labyrinth+In+Time&qid=1670960840&sprefix=ebook+poems+a+labyrinth+in+time%2Caps%2C152&sr=8-1
Self care isn't ONLY so we have the energy to do things for others. It's also because we're treating our own well being as of at least equal worth as the well being of others.
Right look where self care has gotten us into Babylon oh how she has fallen for we all are wicked until we all repent and admit that Jesus Christ is our savior we all will still be stuck in this world
Your videos almost always feel like cleaning out a wound so it can heal. I've been an atheist over half my life now, but it feels like I'm still uncovering old wounds from my childhood, things I thought I'd gotten over or don't need to think about anymore. A bunch of the clips you show are from people I know because my mom watched them, or in the case of Answers in Genesis I actually went in person. A lot of the outros end up making me cry, or getting me very close, but it always gives me a lot to think about and process, and I feel a lot better afterwards. So thank you for all you do, I'm sure it's not easy filtering through the sermon clips in order to make these, but it really is invaluable.
I'm a universalist now, but I feel the same about these videos. Cleaning out the old crap and religious trauma to make way for what beliefs seem most true and healing to ME, not because I'm afraid or have to.
@@ADULTS_ONLY_AllExistenceItselfaccording to Catholic dogma, Mary was allegedly born without sin. Which makes no sense. If she could be born without sin, what about the rest of us??
Evangelical ProLifers: babies are precious! Also Evangelical ProLifers: kids are sinful and evil and we must beat them! Also this series has helped me as someone trying to heal from all the abuse I suffered growing up fundamentalist baptist.
Same. Watching this series has caused so many aha moments about why I had mental health issues as a kid. Every video gives me a list of things to discuss with my therapist lol
Excellent video as usual! I was one of the lucky ones. My family stopped going to church when I was about 10 years old. When I was 14 I largely began to question my beliefs. I made it out without having to do with all the trauma that money in the comments have experienced. I'm hopeful for the continued healing of members of the non-believing community.
every time original sin was brought up in my church they would say how babies are so sinful, how a baby’s cry is sinful, how babies are selfish and that’s why they cry,,,, like,,, what
I so wish your channel had been around in the 90s when I was first deconstructing and had ZERO support/guidance/resources. This series - and your content in general - is a breath of fresh air even for the long-time deconverted, like me. So glad you exist.
Back then, the idea that people would begin abandoning the superstitions of our ancestors at the rate they are today felt like an impossible yet beautiful dream.
Religion has a funny idea of "God's love". If you had a bunch of kids in your house, and they accidentally poisoned themselves with poison you left on the kitchen table, would you A) immediately give them the antidote, or B) lock yourself away and hide from them in the attic, leaving only your diary with clues how to find you; when they find you and bang on the door, you DEMAND that they beg you for help, swear eternal loyalty to you...oh yeah, and fork over 10% of all your earnings for the rest of your life, in order to get the antidote...Does B) sound like "love" to you?
@@patatoe2124 You missed the point. Put yourself and your own family in the situation above: Do you require them to jump through so many hoops *in order to get your antidote*...or do you just GIVE it to them, free of charge, with no stipulations or conditions, even IF they curse you? Which response says "love" to you more?
Ah yes Original Sin, one of the first things that started me on the road to Atheism. As a kid the concept didn't make sense to me, "Why am I being punished for something i had nothing to do with? For something that happened god knows how long ago" etc. Thoughts like that. Because, it simply didn't make sense. Why do I have to suffer because of the actions of somebody who I've even met Not only that, "If God loves me so much, why is he punishing me for the crimes of someone else" Never got a satisfactory answer to those questions
Unfortunately, once sin entered the world there was no way to remove it. In the beginning, sin was transferred from man to animals such as lambs or doves. However, it didn't disappear. In the New Testament Jesus was the lamb that was sacrificed for the sins of the world. Thus, our sins were transferred to Jesus. But this sin has not disappeared outright. However thanks to Jesus' sacrifice we can be saved and be united with him. This doesn't mean we are perfect but it does mean we can go to Heaven when this life is over.
@@TalpaTulpa Unfortunately all will not be saved, even the Bible says this. But there is still hope. The beautiful thing about salvation is that it doesn't matter if you received Christ 10 or 20 years ago or if you accept him on your deathbed. All can be saved if we simply admit, believe, and confess the name of Jesus. It's a free gift to all, but it's your choice to accept or deny it.
31:20 “We all know that if someone attacks your heel you won’t be dead” *Achilles has entered the chat* Also I love how she’s so caught up in the metaphor she’s completely forgotten snakes have venom
The biggest problem with saying 'He was born that way, a sinner, evil' is that it gives someone an excuse to commit those evils. Because it's 'in his nature to be evil', so you ought not punish them for what they can't control.
Original sin for me led to years of self harm, anxiety, and self punishment. I hated myself for being so disgusting and sinful. Thankyou for these videos, they really help in deconstruction these ideas in my mind. This month i’m celebrating 3 years free from religion, and i have never felt better. Love all your videos 🩷
I (atheist) got into it with my husband (Episcopalian) after a sermon where they talked about everyone being born broken. I absolutely hate that people are told they are born broken and only God/Jesus can mend them. He thought it was a beautiful sentiment that even broken, everyone is worthy. He just couldn't understand why I found it manipulative. But after listening to what these pastors were saying, holy Christ on a cracker! Really glad my husband picked a church (he left the Roman Catholic Church) that encourages people to be better, to do good works to show their love of their fellow man, and their desire to show their love of Jesus by emulating him. Also, I feel bad for Voddie Baucham's nine kids. Having a dad that thinks they are evil from the moment the come out into the world... Poor kiddos.
If I weren’t Catholic (a denomination I willingly picked as opposed to the Evangelicalism I was talked into) I’d think Jesus was a cult leader…in spite of the miracles. And the more I find out about him, the more uneasy it makes me feel. As you can tell, I’m not conservative.
@@lexbrightraven8049: Christianity (especially Evangelicalism) isn’t nicknamed “Paulianity” for nothing. With that out of the way, I can tell you only by personal experience that, even though the liturgy includes a lot of Paul’s epistles, it seems Catholicism relies more on the Gospel of Luke than any of the other four Gospels (Matthew, Mark, John). On the other hand, Protestantism (Evangelicalism) really leans on the Gospel of John (re: John 3:16 for example) along with Paul. Imo, John is the most conservative of all of them…very absolutist. They want to nail the authoritarian dictatorship of Jesus Christ…and by extension, the Triune God…as close to home as possible. Overall, Christianity uses terms like “Lord,” “King,” God,” “Father,” etc as much as it can. You really can’t breathe unless you’re conscious of being squarely under his dominion. Great for conservatives. Not so great if you’re a liberal. Just in case we’re on the same page, Paul didn’t author a gospel.
@@TheTrueOnyxRose I have some distinct issues with Catholicism (mostly the inherent sexism) and with the Roman Catholic Church (abuse scandal cover ups) itself, but Catholics themselves not so much. Heck, One of my dearest friends, who was the best man at my wedding (done in the Catholic Church) is a devout Roman Catholic and does a ton of work with Catholic Charities. And our local Archbishop is the reason my husband didn't leave for Episcopalianism much sooner. Archbishop Gustavo García-Siller is a truly kind and good man, if more in the priesthood had been like him, my husband probably would have stayed. Unfortunately you have ones like Archbishop Cordileone who is so aggressively conservative to the point of cruelty that he is almost single-handedly deconverting San Francisco away from the Roman Catholic Church. (My husband is from San Francisco and still has family there.) Also, in case you are wondering why I keep specifying Roman Catholic, my kid's godfather is Greek Orthodox, who call themselves Catholic. Her godmother is Roman Catholic. And the Episcopal Church also considers itself Catholic. After getting asked which Catholic Church I meant about 20 times I just started being really specific. (Interesting difference between Roman Catholic and Episcopal. In RC godparents have to be RC. The Episcopal Church doesn't care, they are just happy you are there. This even goes for my atheist self.)
@@KellyDVance: Oh I detest sexism in every part of society, including atheism (atheism has its problems…hardly any area of male-dominated culture doesn’t), so it’s not just in Catholicism. And the excuses these guys come up with! A lot of women are good with it…some even prefer it…but I’m not about that. I’m aware of some Orthodox Church communities that are actually in communion with the Catholic Church, rather than stand apart from her. Yeah, they really are Catholic, but they prefer to stick to their Orthodox rites rather than change over to the Roman Rite. It’s as complicated as letting Orthodox priests keep their wives if they decide to convert to Catholicism. They won’t let their other priests have that privilege. But you know, marriage is an actual sacrament, and you can’t break that up. That would be unconscionable…. As for the Anglican/Episcopalian Churches, I see them as RC Lite. Yes, characteristically speaking they’re Protestant, but they’re kind of not. They’re about as close as you can get to being Catholic without crossing over. Lutheranism isn’t far behind. And Presbyterianism behind *them.* And so on.
@@TheTrueOnyxRose The problem with comparing sexism in atheism to sexism in the R.C. is that atheist aren't a hierarchical system. In R.C. a woman can literally not hold a position as a priest, and the story of Pope Joan is widely held to be fictional, and even than she had to be in drag. The nice thing about the Episcopal Church (Catholic lite, better dressed Catholics, all the ritual half the guilt Catholics, etc.) is that women can be priests and the LGBTQIA+ is embraced. As an atheist I still find fault, but it isn't with their behavior. But, I think we can all agree that the Evangelical non-mainstream Protestants have gone way too far into fundy-land.
God's love for us is truly beautiful. It's just like a man who loves his wife so much, that he tells her, that if she doesn't love him back, he'll lock her in the basement and set her on fire. Beautiful.
Regarding the 'do not lie' commandment, sometimes it is absolutely required to lie. I was listening to a Rabbi being interviewed by an atheist on a radio show, and this question was posed to the Rabbi: "It's 1943 Netherlands, you're hiding Jews in your house and thus saving their lives. SS troops knock on the door and ask if there are any Jews in the house. Wouldn't lying be the right thing to do?" I still remember the Rabbi's response. He squirmed and completely dodged the question: "Well, by that time so many mistakes have been made, that the question is irrelevant" Or think about this: Your homeland has been invaded by a brutal and merciless army. You naturally take up arms and fight them. During battle you're captured by the enemy, and you have a vital piece of information in your brain about troop positions that will greatly aid the enemy. The enemy troops ask "Do you know your troop positions?" According to the bible, you should tell the enemy everything, and thus costing the lives of your comrades. Surely lying there is the right thing to do? Yes, don't steal, don't lie, don't be an ass to other people. All very good rules. But fundamentalists really try to drive home the point that these are iron clad rules that can never be bent, and if they need to be bent, it's all our fault anyway.
Im, as a Jew, one of the first things I learned is that it's ok to break a rule or commandment if it saves a life... I remember reading a story of rabbis lighting a fire on sabbath. There are other folktales of jews breaking rules for noble purposes as well. Jews have a very different set of beliefs then Christians, they really just took the book and not anything else...
@@cosmicandy4620 Ya but out of the many inventions to keep the sabbath holy , to avoid "Technically" doing "The" work . . . is anybody gleaning patent benefits ?
Echoing what CosmicAndy said, in the view of Judaism, almost any rule can be broken if it's for the sake of saving a person's life (one of the exceptions being idol worship). Breaking the Sabbath rules for a medical emergency is very common, bigger Jewish communities even have a community-run EMT response network in case of such emergencies
Religion told me I was bad for existing and being an undiagnosed autistic kid with pronounced PTSD most of the people I knew reinforced that, I didn't start to care about myself at all until recently but I'm so happy to be free
Yep. I was told I was being "influenced by demons" when what I actually was was walking around with undiagnosed ADHD and autism. I was punished and condemned for things I had literally no control over, so I feel you. Keep going, you're doing amazing ❤ We both are, and we're better for not having their mythology held over our heads
"You owe yourself everything. Sin is a matter of opinion. Sins are only sins if you are hurting other people. Live your life, no matter what that life is." - Corey Taylor
Thanks for these videos. They really help. From outside of religion, I have a hard time understanding WHY people who are believers believe what to me sounds like a bunch of highly manipulative fairy tales. It's so ironic that believing in original sin leads believers to accept bad, or even evil, behavior from other evangelicals because everybody is a sinner anyway. If you're in the out-group though, all acceptance is definitely off the table!
I was brought up in church in like, Elementary & middle school. Some of the beliefs held on longer than others, for me it had to do a lot with generational trauma and wanting a sense of stability and rules to live by. I did see a study done about the correlation between religion and poverty which is fascinating. Advocating and passing laws for stronger, smarter gov social spending, mental healthcare (de stigmatized) and collective bargaining ought to be at top of the list
This video sent me into a massive anxiety attack. These are all the messages from the people I used to listen to and let create my life into a living hell of self loathing and fear. Of endless gaslighting. I left everything behind to try and find salvation, as I grew my OCD. After 1,5 years of trying to be saved, which came after 3 years of having believed I was saved, both chastising myself for relying on my own faith too much and for not believing right, even though I called out and actually weeped uncontrollably over the depth of my sinfulness that I would even try to believe in the wrong way, I broke and ran. I had lost all will to live, I looked like a skeleton, I hadn’t cracked a joke for ages, felt too sinful to eat or take my medication (everything not of faith is sin, thanks Piper for that horrible teaching) so I lost 18kilo’s. After this I slowly recovered sanity and decided to look at the things I believed from the “other perspective”. I learned so much. I don’t think I can return to belief unless I witness some miracle. It’s really all myth upon myth upon failed prophecy upon reinterpretation of said prophecy.
Thank you for sharing your story, because oh my goodness it felt like looking in a mirror. I know exactly what you mean. It’s so exhausting and sometimes it still scares me a bit too but it brings me some catharsis to know other people are like me too.
Years ago, when I was still a Christian, I had a nightmare and, looking back on it, it seems like an example of internalized guilt for "original sin." I had murdered three strangers for no reason and my dream began with me grappling with the guilt and trying to cover it up. The guilt was so intense that it felt like I had actually murdered them, not just in a dream. I've never felt so guilty even in my waking life. I dug a hole and buried one of them in the woods. I was so physically and mentally exhausted afterward that I knew I didn't have the strength to bury the other two, so I took the second to a place I knew where a stream ran underground but part of it had collapsed so there were already exposed, cave-like holes in the ground with enough space for a body. I drug the second body into the muddy hole with me, trying to get him in far enough that he wasn't exposed. As I was dragging him in, soaking wet and covered in mud, I felt something under my hands so I took out my phone to use the flashlight and revealed that the hole was already lined with human bones. I realized that one of two things were true. And perhaps in dream logic, both were true. 1) Other murderers had buried their victims in this exact place. I was merely following in the footsteps of the worst people who ever lived. Even at the time, I connected this to the Evangelical idea that I was raised with that no sin is worse than another. If you've sinned even once, you might as well be as bad as Hitler. And in my upbringing, something as small as not thinking about God every waking moment was a sin. 2) I was the one who had killed before and buried my victims in that very place and somehow forgot about it. Both options were horrifying to me but I left the body in the hole. By then I was too tired to give a shit anymore so I threw the last body in a dumpster. If I was caught, I was caught, I didn't even care anymore. Or at least that's what I thought. The body was found in the dumpster the next day and I was brought in for questioning. For some reason, they only questioned me as a possible witness, I was never a suspect. I lied and they let me go. From there, I followed the story on the news. A suspect was arrested and my guilt for murder turned to guilt for ruining an innocent person's life. I grappled with whether I should turn myself in to save the innocent man but I never did. My emotions numbed over time and the details of what I had done faded. It felt indistinct, like waking from a dream. As I followed the case in the news, I wondered to myself how someone could do something so evil. When the man was convicted for murder, the last thing I remember thinking before I woke up, as I watched him lead off to prison, was how good it was that justice was done and the murderer got what he deserved. Until I woke up, I had completely forgotten that I was the real murderer. The implication being that the cycle would start again. I can't think of this dream now without being reminded of the way I thought while I was a Christian and feel bad for my past self.
Honestly that reminds me a lot of Animal Farm and how at the end of the book the pigs become humans implying a cyclical nature to the oppression of the system.
@@geekygecko1849 I don't put any stock in dream meanings or the idea that your subconscious is trying to tell you something, I think they're more of an indication of what is influencing your brain. I think the "point" of the dream, or what its influence was, is that I'm an evil bitch even if I don't realize it. Which is the entire concept of original sin. Even just the fact that when the dream starts, all I know is that I've killed some strangers. I don't know why, how, or even exactly when. It just makes me think of the Christian idea that we all killed Jesus, even though none of us were alive at the time. I also remember being told from a very young age that we sin every day even if we don't realize it. Even if we think we went the entire day without sinning, we did without realizing or remembering it. It could have been something as simple as not thinking about God enough, accidentally hurting someone's feelings, "vicarious sexual immorality," feeling anxious, a flash of pridefulness, etc. And all of those things are as bad as murder because all sin is equal. I grew up feeling guilty because I didn't think I felt guilty enough. I grew up feeling shame if I got to the end of the day and couldn't think of a single bad thing I had done because it was impossible to go that long without doing something wrong, so I must have done it without realizing or forgot. The crazy thing is that I connected all of these concepts to this dream even at the time. These aren't just new things I'm noticing now that I'm looking back on it as an atheist. The difference is that now I realize that's super toxic and I probably needed therapy, but at the time I thought it was a good thing and helped teach me how to view my sin.
In bdsm culture there is a concept of sub space - something that people are able to reach in during deep submission, to completely let go of everything, to completely rely on another individual to control you, to use you as they see fit, to take care of you. Many describe this experience as "out of body" or "euphoric", it definitely affects your brain chemistry. And every once in a while, it just strikes me that the way these people talk about these beliefs is similar to how a sub might feel about a dom in that moment.... makes me wonder how much happier many of them would be if they had someone who they could tell "punish me, daddy" on the regular rather than trying to force it by making one up, and forcing everyone else into their scene.
It’s not meant to label all human behavior as inherently sinful but rather as a deliberate choice to go against God’s law and love, leading to damage in relationships. It’s to recognize harmful actions and work towards a better loving relationship with God and other people the church promotes a holistic understanding of humans as both fallen and capable of redemption and encourages lives of integrity, love and service
Okay. Then what am I in the religion if I say "No"? Why am I "fallen" or "Broken" as you put it? What do I need to be "redeemed" for? Did I do something, or am I just "inherently sinful"?@@Catholictomherbert
@@patchwurk6652 all you need to do now right now is not eat in excessive or overindulge manner. So here are 3 foods: steamed fish and vegetables (broccoli carrots or bok choy , stir fried tofu with colorful vegetables and brown rice, grilled chicken with avocado.
Original sin was one of the things in my childhood that contributed in part to my C-PTSD. It's extremely damaging to a child when you constantly tell them they're a bad person just for being born and that they'll burn in hell for eternity if they die "impure" with sin and don't ask for forgiveness for something they didn't even do. It taught me that not being perfect automatically makes me a bad person. It taught me to always be "scared for my soul", so to speak. I resent religion for many reasons including this one. I'm currently in therapy trying to undo all the damage from the trauma.
Hope you mean after ditching their current book on a pedestal stance... Otherwise, that will absorb all their energy, so if you want it going somewhere else you need to do away with the black hole first.
People defending og sin always end up sounding like they hate themselves; it's such a self-harming view of yourself, and is no different from someone groveling before a tyrant, saying something like "I am but filth before your radiance" to stay on the person's good side lol.
*Nervous laughter* I can think of several songs that echo that grovelling quote. "Begger," "broken thing," "nothing good in me." I don't doubt that church contributed to my depression.
It simply AMAZES me how many people fail to grasp the fact that humans have always expressed themselves in abstract terms, anyone from people who take religious texts literally, to flat earthers and the ancient alien folks. From burial rituals, cave paintings/carvings, Mythology, Art, etc, humans of 100,000, 50,000, 5,000, 500 years ago were the same as we are now, just living in a different world (and areas of the world) and different ways to make sense of it all.
My dad has this thing he does where he prays and prays and convinces himself that God wants him to do what he already wanted to do. He will never, ever admit this but there's no doubt about it. One big factor of my upbringing is that he kept being offered new pulpits to preach in, which required a move. HE TOOK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. He kept claiming he prayed and that God told him to take the new position and uproot his family again and again and again. It was NEVER God's will, apparently, that he allow his kids to feel like they had a home or a community.
My Dad did the opposite - claimed that God wanted him to stay at our church, even after I got SAed there and left, my siblings left and my Mom left. Still don't understand why he thought God wanted him in a church that so obviously hurt his entire family
I am in the beginning stages of planning to do research (and maybe report) on the link between evangelical christian upbringing and OCD/OCPD! So I really love and deep dive into videos on topics like this. Some other ones that I believe were profoundly impactful and which I plan to be a part of my research include the Age of Accountability + Natural Revelation. I appreciate the work you do!!
I'm a young adult, grew up in the Church. Let me tell you I still apologize for things I cannot help and cannot control, and I still feel guilty when things go wrong because the church taught me that everything I did was wrong and my fault and that I was just evil for being human. Deconstructing has been so hard but I am doing my darnedest to sort myself out and stop apologizing because it is OK to be human and make mistakes. It's okay to be yourself whoever might be reading this, you are not evil for just existing. You are human, and we are all gonna be OK.
How to Sin: Be born "You have been alive for ten seconds and you are now under arrest for 10 counts of DUI and one count of manslaughter behind a Denny's in 1997. Sins of the father, you see..."
Being born in sin doesn't mean we're guilty of sin as soon as we're born, that wouldn't made sense, it means we're born with a sinful nature that makes us choose sin over not winning, which is why we have to be born of the spirit so we can limit sin
Hallelujah!! I am so psyched I found your channel!!!! You are amazing at explaining all the hypocrisy. I’ve never trusted religion of any kind, but it’s EVERY WHERE! Hugs and kisses to YOU my friend. ❤
Yeah! This channel is great. A unique style incorporating media clips. Very high quality. If you don't want to be the kind of person who only listens to a single source, you might also like Kristi Burke's channel which has similar content to this one. Apaulogia and Genetically Modified Skeptic are all good sources too. I would say they are in the same vein, but less simular to this than Kristi Burke. Probably other good sources that deal exclusively with Christianity I'm unaware of. Cosmic Skeptic deals with Christianity very often, but not as exclusively as the other sources I've mentioned. Religion for Breakfast has a degree in religion of some kind and is a wonderful source of information. Learning about the history of the Bible from him and others (e.g. Bart Erhman, Francesca Stavrakopoulou, and Data Over Dogma) has all helped me move past any lingering doubts over the accuracy of the Bible. Yeah, I spend a lot of my free time on this stuff in addition to astronomy and gaming. 😄
Just let my naked self and my punnet of strawberries enjoy our evening in peace! The fruit eating I do in my home is not the business of a voyeuristic sky man, his son, and a ghost who are both also him.
Some say the bible isn't always literal right?....and the two naked people made for each other feasting on the "forbidden fruit" in paradise, well how do we know for sure that this isn't meant to be a euphanism ?
"You want to center your life on you." damn right, I'm the one living it, suffering the consequences, taking the accountability, and creating the successes.
I watched the korean show "Hellbound" and what I loved (SPOILER) was that a religion formed around the concept that people get a message that they will go to hell in a certain time frame and they said that everyone who has that happen to them is a sinner. Worldwide people joined the religion and many many people on the regular get dragged to hell. But then the message appears to a newborn baby, who literally can't have committed a sin and so the leaders of the religion talked about it in a meeting and one of them asked if they would introduce the concept of original sin, which was quickly repelled by the others.
It literally says that the serpent was the cleverest of "all the creatures" of the garden...doesn't sound like an angel to me. And if it was Satan, then why isn't he crawling everywhere on his belly, as God's curse demands?
This is taken from the Sumerian texts and Enki, friend of humans, is represented by a serpent. Enlil his brother was the owner of the Garden and used people as slaves. Enlil hated humans and later didn't save them during the flood. Enki warned Noah and saved people. Abraham came from Ur in Sumeria and obviously rewrote the texts for the Bible.
It is said... in the New Testament, long after that misidentification had been made. But since Christians don't understand that the Bible is a collection of different stories by different authors with different intentions, the idea that whoever invented the Genesis story most definitely DID NOT think the serpent was Satan is irrelevant, because he totally was because some random other guy centuries later associated the two.
I’m glad my Christian upbringing wasn’t this extreme. This is so dumb I’m actually angry. Actually now that I think about it, maybe it was, because it’s only been in the last few years that I’m realizing that I’m nowhere near as bad as I’ve ever thought I was.
@blu3622 I get so embarrassed and angry about it sometimes. All that wasted time and suppressing critical thinking because, well, we can’t let our fallen mind carry us away from god.
12:53 I’ve been living this for a while but until you posted this video I didn’t realize how much I needed to hear someone say it out loud. Thank you!!!
i recently read a really good book that this video sooo much reminded me of.. it's called "Human Kind" by Rutger Bregman. He is a Dutch historian who was raised christian, but lost his faith when he started realizing that humans are actually NOT sinful by nature, but we're actually pretty loving and caring toward each other and have been that way for a loooong time. I would highly recommend it for anyone who wants to read a bit about the beautiful, hopeful side of humanity. also i'm a canadian millennial so i have to say this.... LIKE A MUFFIN OR A BEET
The truly unfunny pastor complaining about children boils my blood. My son died before he was born, days before his due date. I never got to hear his "evil" cries, but I'd give anything to.
29:51 Savage point. Literally just encouraging certain symptoms of depression. Feeling incapable of change. Former christian, and I never really noticed that.
Very good point. Carl Roger wrote about it "unconditional positive regard" as a way to approach his client in clinical setting. The problem is humanity is capable of both good AND evil. The viewpoint of human is inherently good in nature can cause damage when he/she facing the malevolence in real life. Jordan Peterson wrote in his book about one of his client with this viewpoint. He was raised in a bubble where his parents instill a belief that human are like angel, incapable of doing evil. When the relationship broke up, he was confronted by his significant other. Seeing that his SO was capable of inflict pain and suffering almost to the point of murder, it broke his psyche and wasn't able to sleep at night without nightmare.
@@ianbuick8946 so then, neither of those two extremes will work as intended. Guess we better come up with a more realistic viewpoint, something like "people start as clean slates and then collect experiences and react to them, and thus they are _capable_ of either good or evil, depending on circumstances." Every action has been motivated by something, and to just consider the outcome without the causes is to be willingly blinded to reality.
@@irrelevant_noob There is a concept call *the age of accountability* where children at some age will understand good and evil. But all in all there isn't anyone can avoid of doing evil. And indeed we live in constantly of two mode of being: reactive and proactive. Reactive mode is the "an eyes for an eyes" and proactive is "turn the other cheek". Reactive mode is victim mindset, instant gratification and vengeance; proactive mode is gratitude, self-control and forgiveness. Reactive mode is the selfish desire, proactive mode places the value on principles. And when people align all the laws and principles of the reality they will understand there is a divine power behind.
@@ianbuick8946 meh, that concept (*called age of accountability) is merely theological, it doesn't seem to have any link to the reality we currently experience. Also proactive is not at all turn the other cheek, the latter is forgiveness after an event already produced effects, while the former is a stance or preparatory action *_BEFORE_* an expected future event. How do you even manage to lump instant gratification with the other reactive examples is quite baffling, tbh...Hah, and you finish with the wondrous "a divine power behind" -- on just a trust me bro basis. GG. 🙄
@@irrelevant_noob"No tree can reach to heaven unless its root reach down to hell" Carl Jung. It's a journey to find the mode of Being, who said everyone will find the answer? Frankly, i expect nothing less from an *honest* seeker would likely to find his/her own answer rather than just a "trust me, bro". Are you a millennial as well? We invented GG back in the days but some kids nowadays think it some sort ultimate mic drop moment for logical argument.. But if you would like to stop the discussion, we can leave it as that.
I always watch your videos from beginning to end. I love your commentary. You hit on so many points where I'm basically screaming "Yes! Yes! Yes!!" We must have very similar thought processes
Dude as a fellow 40ish year old I have to say I'm ashamed of how much I love your boomer memes. You have them down to an art they're so perfect and I lol at every single one of them 😂
@beliefitornot I would LOVE to see a discussion about “”intelligent design”” but pointing out all the stupid flaws our bodies have >>> that one scene from The Good Place where Michael goes “oh I’m a human!! My breathing tube is next to my eating tube and all my limbs end in stupid little sticks!”
First of all, your channel is so full of hope and peace and you've been absolutely crucial in my deconstruction going well. I just wanna say I grew up Catholic and I am still ABSOLUTELY REELING at the fact that there are REAL!!! PEOPLE!!! On this EARTH!!!! That think CREATIONISM!!!! Is RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The flat earthers I can just wave away because many of them believe outlandish conspiracies that have always sounded foreign to me but hearing people with similar beliefs that I was surrounded with growing up think SIX THOUSAND YEARS ago is when all this started...... gawd. It really sunk in when I found your channel and Fundie Fridays about two years ago. What the hell.
The idea that babies are sinful is such a stupid take in every way possible. I never asked to be in this world ,but my parents brought me into this world why would it be my fault that I was born. My parents are on this side and I know a lot of people who spew crap like this all of the time any time if I or any one of my friends ask for help for any reason or have different opinions we have to suddenly take care of ourselves and you can not argue back because then that is a sin.
As a child I never really got the idea that the stories in the old book were fact, I saw them as lessons and I didn't ever quite get the point, thinking back on it I understand now how so many people in my life had zero sense of self worth yet never did much for the next guy, merely finding things to call them sinners about. I'm thankful every day that my siblings and I "woke up" when we did, even in my 20's I struggle with who I am, but your work helps guiding me in ways I would have never gone before.
I get it now. The fruit of the knowledge of good and evil is what we’re always seeking. God, aka the church, doesn’t want us to learn and to know. It just wants to control us through fear and self-loathing. “Don’t eat the fruit”, says ‘God’. “Don’t do your research”, says the church. If you do, your illusion of God and the church will crumble into nothing.
@@Gringo7213 Cheeses Crust is worthy of worship. At least it isn't trying to make anyone feel guilty beyond the fact it's an indulgent comfort food that may not go down well for lactose/gluten intolerant people.
Before that overstuffed Voddie character appeared for the second time (after telling everyone what a horrible person he, um, used to be), I was wondering how anybody could possibly look into the eyes of a baby and see evil, but then he shows up and calls his daughter a "viper in a diaper" to laughter from the pews. What a thoroughly despicable view of things these people have.
I like the way the Jews view the eden story better. That we all are capable of good and bad, and we can choose (free will) one or the other, and that striving to do good is not only possible for us but also equally as natural for us as giving up and doing bad is.
I have been enjoying your videos, internet atheism (or at least questioning the Christian status-quo) took a really dark turn last decade, overshadowowed by men's rights activists who pretty much all turned to gamer gaters, so it's wonderful to see thoughtful people doing it again! Your empathy for those who are still part of a toxic church is evident and lovely, you don't insult or talk down to them. The clips of sermons are something I've never seen before either.
you give them too many niceties by calling them gamer gaters, and not the bigoted, misogynistic, terrible people they became, short handing and bullying people expressing their right to living good lives.
i love this series !!! you really help flesh out questions ive had rolling around in my head forever ESPECIALLY the idea that we’re all equal in sin just to guilt trip you into believing
up until ~2 years ago i was christian and the damage, the amount of shame i felt (and still continue to feel but its getting a bit better) for just existing is horrifying. ever since i was little i internalized this idea that im not a good person. being a kid going through puberty and having your self-talk immediately go to how flawed you are because thats one thing that youve been taught since forever to be true is so dangerous. it is so disgusting to tell a kid how fucked up they are because... they were born? how is this allowed? how is it ok in their minds to tell a kid that they are awful and that nothing they can do can change the fact that they are a horrible person? this mindset is especially dangerous for people suffering with mental illness. when i became depressed my mind defaulted to negative self-talk because that was all i was taught. all that was running through my head was "i am a horrible person" and "i dont deserve anything good" because depression sucks and i didnt know any other way to think. i became so severely suicidal because i felt so ashamed about everything. i felt shameful for struggling with my mental health. i felt shameful for needing help. i felt shameful for talking to my friends. i felt shameful for taking care of myself. i didnt think i deserved anything good because of years of conditioning telling me that id never be good enough and everything given to me is nothing i actually deserved. (sorry for writing so much but it pisses me off *so much* that people think its ok to tell others that they are inherently evil)
Because the church is nothing but a club for power hungry abusers. It matters not to them whether it's physical or psychological, as long as you pay and obey. If there is indeed evil, it is anchored in this institution.
As the son of a Late, professional con man (yes seriously), & a reformed con artist myself, beginning @25:15 so succinctly verbalized @Belief It O Not. Well done.
I wasn't raised a believer and have pretty much always been an atheist, so I didn't know the minutia of religious doctrine growing up. I only really learned about the concept of original sin when studying Paradise Lost. Spoilers - hate that book so fucking much it's one of the worst things I've ever read. But what occurred to me is - Adam and Eve were, effectively, robots. They had no free will, no concept of right or wrong, no critical thinking, no real ability to understand the world around them. They just existed to sorta... wander around in Eden, presumably for God's benefit. As such when he says "don't eat the apple" they can't question or understand why, they just say "Okay!" and do it. And then something else comes along, the snake, and says "Do eat the apple", and they can't question or understand why, so they just say "Okay!" and do it. And at that point - they become sentient and self aware and can actually process the world around them... and this pisses god RIGHT the fuck off. And this is the original sin. But the thing about it is - Original Sin can't be something they're punished for because in the state they were in when God made them, they had no free will. They didn't have the ability to think for themselves. Eve didn't choose to eat the apple, not because she was tricked or coerced, but because she literally did not know what *choice* was. But the entirety of humanity is guilty and evil, forever, according to god, because of this. Humanity is a total write off that deserves eternal punishment. But the worst part is this colors all of Christian Religious Doctrine. By this standard, the natural state of humanity is to be essentially a servile, semi-vegetative bunch of automatons who do nothing other than what god tells them to do. That is the aspirational goal for a good Christian, that is what Christians punish themselves for not being and attack everyone else for not WANTING to be. The end goal of Christian faith is for no one, anywhere, to think for themselves in any capacity, which means there can be no goodness in the world - but that's fine, because the only goodness in the world should be what comes from God anyway. It's demented.
@@diarmuidkuhle8181 No, he super doesn't. I thought that the first time I read it but if you read the entire book the conclusion is very much "Never question god, god is always right, god is infallible" after demonstrating pretty categorically that god sucks shit.
Watching these sermons and then listening to your talking points reminds me of back when my mother forced (and I mean FORCED) me to attend those nightly church classes/meetings they put you in from like 6th-10th grade. For context: my mother and my stepfather are both pastors, and my dad was a church music director. During a fight she yelled about how seeing me go through the Affirmation of Baptism ceremony was HER reward for dragging me to church, sunday school, Bible school, etc... A major component was taking "sermon notes" and then write a 2-3 page analysis each week. I credit those years with teaching me how spew a bunch of absolute bull spit with a straight face. The few times I made the mistake of challenging the sermon or asking questions a couple times and let's just say it didn't go over very well. Anyway, I wonder if the same experience is how all these conservatives can weave BS "boogey man" narratives and be so convincing to their peers.
I began outpatient counseling following treatment for opiate addiction in 2015. My counselor was extremely evangelical and pentecostal. Although it wasn't a christian rehab program, she put my attendance to a weekly women's bible study into my mandatory plan. The first "study" was just ranting about the threat to "biblical marriage" from gay marriage being legal. I asked if they were referring to the concubines within many biblical marriages? Crickets 🦟🦟
@@blu3622 Funny you should mention that... because I had a similar experience. I don't know how familiar you are with The Hazelden Foundation (now merged with Betty Ford) but I spent almost 6 months at their main campus for opiate addiction as well. For such a big campus with their sort of reputation, it's location is pretty rural. (Borders on middle of nowhere MN) 😅 Anyway, there were only two choices for church services and I ended up in the really fundie Pentacostal group... and the services were 2 hours long. And the sermons were either horrifying or so boring that I got accused of using again because I would constantly nod off.
@@Wyrm3 I'm sure it broke all sorts of rules, especially since I had paid for my treatment out of pocket being uninsured. It wasn't funded by any religious organizations or anything like that, but at the time I just chose the past of least resistance.
i grew up in the mormon church and the 2nd article of faith (a list of the fundamental belief) says “We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression” and i never understood why that was there bc i didn’t know that other churches believed that
@@aliceputt3133 definitely, i’m no longer mormon but i think it’s a decent religion. i don’t agree with some of their beliefs like not drinking coffee, but i’m glad i didn’t have to worry about being guilty for some very dead guy’s mistake
@@lexbrightraven8049 i totally agree, it depends on where you are and the other people attending. most of the churches i’ve been to were filled with very nice people but churches in utah suck
Man, it’s crazy having been in a Jesuit school until college. Our flavor or original sin was sentience. It was this idea that the physical and emotional pain of being alive, and the self awareness of it comes from a level of knowledge. God felt bad and sent Jesus to eventually give people an answer and something to look forward to. If Christianity has stayed like that I might have stayed involved, but even 30 years ago most of the community was getting unbearable.
It's gross. Their spaul-ing all over the place.. Heavenly Father told Good People "Adam and Eve," not to do one thing that will hurt them; one thing that would kill them.. They got tricked. They sinned; yet they received mercy; Father didn't kill them. He didn't send them directly to hell... The First Response of Heavenly Father toward us was Mercy... Today we have HIS Commandments and Messiah is our Perfect example... We don't have to sin. Almost 2,000 years since Messiah arose from the dead. The saints are worn out by the beast (the roman cannon/spaul; )for a time. All sin is not equal... pagan rome put those lies in "the bible". The Truth is available Today.. We don't have to obey the devil worshipping s-paul/romans... We can be like Messiah and do what Father told us to do... This "content creator" has his own reasons for his sin/lies/degradation. He shouldn't try to Judge Heavenly Father. We are victims of a roman hijacking of Our Messiahs' Message.. That's why the Churches look more like a circus than synagogues. Find out how to turn "the tide" on the lefty depopulationists. Read ebook "A Labyrinth In Time" by YT Rhyms. Spaul was a psycho!!! He killed many Christians, he never showed any remorse, compassion, nor empathy. No justice. He never even made a stinking apology. He never took a collection for the victims families he killed. Not because he was too shy to ask for money, he demanded a tithe from the poor.. He cursed The Angels of Heaven, You, me and every Christian that ever taught from Matthew, Mark, Luke or John… Spaul says in Galatians 1;8 “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” Which of the commandments did spaul free you from? You shall not covert your neighbors ... You shall not kill? You shall not steal? Don’t lay with a menstruating Wife? No, but he picked no circumcision. He sounds like a smegma fan. Oh, and spaul said he is free from every law; so you can’t blame him for sht. Messiah is circumcised. Will you face Him with your smeg stanking in the breeze, standing before Him? Will you say, “spaul said circumcision is a curse..?” We're Saved by The Blood of Messiah!!! not spauls gospel. How silly is the sissy spaul? A bragging roman/pharisee; killer of innocent Christians? According to The Law, spaul would have been put to death for murdering the innocent... Who was this miserable punk to tell Women to keep silent? What about Mary Madeline? What about Messiahs' mother, should they be silenced? Woman can’t speak in Church? I thought he said, they are not under The Law? According to spaul, disagreeing with his gospel is damnation… Everything else was cool though? Messiah never said that junk. Come on People! A change like that, He would have fore told us about. spaul calls himself a roman and a pharisee; yet he never repented on their behalf, for Killing Messiah. spaul said there is no male nor female in Christ. More gender confusion. Freed from the law of being a closet cornholer? Like the roman priests? How pompous it is for scholars to think, that Jews didn't know how to read and write? True Hebrews have no idles, YHVH is found in His Word. What kind of disciple doesn't take notes? Mary had to have written part of The Testament of Messiah. There IS Only One Hebrew Testament of Messiah, later translated and named "Matthew". It was originally written in Hebrew, by 1. Mary 2. the disciples 3. Written or dictated by Messiah HimSelf! Some events were only witnessed by them/Him. Examples: 1. Mary - An Angel spoke to Joseph, Messiahs Birth, Wise Men Worshiping, Messiah and His Childhood travels. 2. The Disciples: The Transfiguration, only Messiah, Peter, James and John was there. 3. Messiah Only: the devils 3 Temptations 3.a. Messiah praying while the disciples slept. Matthew" is the 40th Inspired Hebrew Book in The Bible. The Last Inspired Book in The Bible... Daniel 7 says that the beast (rome) would wear the saints. Did this happen? Yes. By killing our Messiah, the disciples; and then deceiving believers for almost2,000 years? Sometimes the simplest explanation is True. The Hebrews wrote in Hebrew, the romans wrote in greek. Hebrews were inspired By Heavenly Father, romans were inspired by demons. The Covenant Father made with man is with Abrahams' seed, rome makes covenant hell... The Holy City is Jerusalem, rome is a den of snakes... Children of Messiah are Jews, Messiah is a Jew... sons of rome are pagans... The so-called modern scholars, like to say Mark was written first. Because it is the least flattering. Under this assumption the least accurate or degraded document would be called first/original. No; Mark was written by a roman stooge, tranzlater, copying from “Matthew” in roman; to corrupt and destroy the message of Messiah? Matthew and Luke are a contradiction... Beginning with the genealogies. Matthew said the woman held Him by the feet and worshipped Him. Luke says that Jesus said, don't touch me for I have not yet ascended to My Father. Spaul contradicts all The 40 Hebrew Inspired Books including “Matthew”. The Old Testament so called "contradictions" or copy errors are few and can be easily explained with proper translation. In the greek/roman/ "New Testament", there are many irreconcilable differences. Because only “Matthew” was originally written in Hebrew. Anomalously/untitled. It is “The Testament of Messiah,” the last Inspired book. (example - Hebrew Matthew Shem Tov) The roman/greek books that fallow are roman lies, propaganda and contradictions. Wake up brothers and sisters! Heavenly Father didn't start speaking greek after they killed His Only Begotten Son. What do you think pilot did when the soldiers told him that the disciples stole Messiahs’ body? The pharisees and Rome had 2,000 years to clean up the records; it's still filthy… more filthy.. While nero was burning Christian Children as torches, to light his pagan garden parties. spaul praises rome, worshiping in greek with blasphemy and lies. spaul says in Romans 1: 8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. (This is a lie.) 9 For God is my witness, whom I serve [b]with my spirit in the gospel of His Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers.. (This is a lie.) Where was the plan to get the Christian Children out of rome? spaul was not interested in that. Rome is the beast of Daniel 7 that wears out the saints for a season. (with the roman cannon) Times Up!!! Jesus is coming soon. Heavenly Father Bless You... For More, Read “A Labyrinth In Time” by YT Rhyms; www.amazon.com/Labyrinth-Time-Y-T-Rhyms-ebook/dp/B0BMWKFLCG/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1B3V9KA85ZCBH&keywords=ebook+Poems+A+Labyrinth+In+Time&qid=1670960840&sprefix=ebook+poems+a+labyrinth+in+time%2Caps%2C152&sr=8-1
Conservatives are all people being punished for things their ancestors did, till someone brings up maybe the families of slaves should be paid for the unpaid labor their ancestors put into building America, then all the sudden, it's unjust to remember wrongs for more than a generation ago.
Agree. But then again, we are all capable of experiencing shame. The people who cannot feel shame out there are NOT people you want to be around. They would be diagnosed with a personality disorder. Shame is a guide to being moral. What I don't like is the Catholic Church trying to control when and how people feel shame.
It is a really good question though: if you really beleive in original sin, how could you in good conscience have kids? Especially knowing there is a good chance they will be tortured eternally...
I couldn't. I became an antinatalist when that clicked in my head, and seeing YHWH command me to make children in spite of the evil of it smacked me in the face with the problem of evil.
I was taught as little kid by a sweet little Catholic nun that we were born evil sinners because of Adam and Eve. So sad. It took me decades to get out of religious thinking. Thank goodness I caught onto CRITICAL THINKING!
Thank God for critical thinking. That's not a command, I'm just saying it as an expression. I like to do my own religious critical thinking exercises. Out of curiosity, do you buy into the Clĭmatě Hŏăx?
Throughout history there have been people and groups that committed terrible acts in the name of religion. However these actions do not represent the fundamental teachings of any religion including world religions, all man has worth and dignity and that violence or brutality is never acceptable regardless of religious belief. Religion should not be used to justify violence or injustice because it goes against the core values of faith the church wants to promote a peaceful and just world.
Way to go, maestro! I love how you put these videos together.This was an especially good one.The subject of original sin is one of the worse doctrines concocted by men.Thanks for another great video!
This was fantastic! I mean I always love your videos. This one really hit though! Loved it, love you! I can see how much effort it must take to put these together! Brilliant! I appreciate all the amazing work!
You always close by encouraging us to share with someone who may benefit and i always think that category includes everyone. I wish i could like your videos more than once. Thank you for the care and compassion and humor that you inject into your work.
“God only knows evil as something outside himself”. Hearing that from someone who I assume calls themselves “pastor” or ect, is such a great argument for seminary school. Like, as a Christian you’re supposed to be accepting Christ as your savior, but like wtf do they think that’s from? It’s literally the covenant to erase original sin. If you get baptized it’s supposed to wash it away. Have they never heard of the great flood, the rainbow, the song of the covenant that god won’t wipe humanity away? God clearly changes over time, changes his own behavior, judges his own behavior as wrong. Like how are they this ignorant of their own beliefs? Their own foundational beliefs? The very tenants of the the supposed covenants between them and god. Like… it almost feels like they don’t actually care. 🤦♂️
28:13 "All that tree was doing, was separating them from God even more!" EXACTLY! So why did *God* put that tree in the garden to begin with? Who was _supposed_ to eat the fruit?
The 'viper in a diaper' guy makes my heart hurt.
So many people justify abuse of infants and children with this horrible logic. I was one of those children.
When I had my own child, I did a lot of research into child psychology, I wanted to understand how an infant understood the world around them. The answer? They DON'T.
It takes at least 6 months before an infant even has any sense of self at all. They don't see other people as separate from themselves.
And then I had her... and she only cried when she had a reason to. Hungry, lonely, dirty, frightened... How is it 'manipulative' for her to communicate in the only way she could, to say "please don't let me starve" "I'm all alone and scared" "I'm cold"??
I'd been deconstructing for a long time, and letting go of the concept of original sin was one of the last things.
But they're all about Family, right? RIght?
This is why the best thing we can do for our children is not having them.
@@cerberaodollamfound the cringe antinatalist 🙄
@@cerberaodollamfound the cringe antinatalist 🙄
Yeah, I think that guy had bad parents and was/is a bad parent.
The whole baby section made me remember a Sunday school teacher who told us that baby Jesus could never have cried because crying is a sin and I suddenly realized holy crap, that's probably why I try so hard never to cry in front of people
It's gross. Their spaul-ing all over the place.. Heavenly Father told Good People "Adam and Eve," not to do one thing that will hurt them; one thing that would kill them.. They got tricked. They sinned; yet they received mercy; Father didn't kill them. He didn't send them directly to hell... The First Response of Heavenly Father toward us was Mercy... Today we have HIS Commandments and Messiah is our Perfect example... We don't have to sin.
Almost 2,000 years since Messiah arose from the dead.
The saints are worn out by the beast (the roman cannon/spaul; )for a time.
All sin is not equal... pagan rome put those lies in "the bible".
The Truth is available Today..
We don't have to obey the devil worshipping s-paul/romans...
We can be like Messiah and do what Father told us to do...
This "content creator" has his own reasons for his sin/lies/degradation.
He shouldn't try to Judge Heavenly Father.
We are victims of a roman hijacking of Our Messiahs' Message..
That's why the Churches look more like a circus than synagogues.
Find out how to turn "the tide" on the lefty depopulationists.
Read ebook "A Labyrinth In Time" by YT Rhyms.
Spaul was a psycho!!!
He killed many Christians, he never showed any remorse, compassion, nor empathy.
No justice. He never even made a stinking apology.
He never took a collection for the victims families he killed.
Not because he was too shy to ask for money, he demanded a tithe from the poor..
He cursed The Angels of Heaven, You, me and every Christian that ever taught from Matthew, Mark, Luke or John…
Spaul says in Galatians 1;8 “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”
Which of the commandments did spaul free you from?
You shall not covert your neighbors ...
You shall not kill? You shall not steal? Don’t lay with a menstruating Wife?
No, but he picked no circumcision.
He sounds like a smegma fan.
Oh, and spaul said he is free from every law; so you can’t blame him for sht.
Messiah is circumcised.
Will you face Him with your smeg stanking in the breeze, standing before Him?
Will you say, “spaul said circumcision is a curse..?”
We're Saved by The Blood of Messiah!!! not spauls gospel.
How silly is the sissy spaul?
A bragging roman/pharisee; killer of innocent Christians?
According to The Law, spaul would have been put to death for murdering the innocent...
Who was this miserable punk to tell Women to keep silent?
What about Mary Madeline?
What about Messiahs' mother, should they be silenced?
Woman can’t speak in Church?
I thought he said, they are not under The Law?
According to spaul, disagreeing with his gospel is damnation…
Everything else was cool though?
Messiah never said that junk.
Come on People! A change like that, He would have fore told us about.
spaul calls himself a roman and a pharisee; yet he never repented on their behalf, for Killing Messiah. spaul said there is no male nor female in Christ.
More gender confusion.
Freed from the law of being a closet cornholer?
Like the roman priests?
How pompous it is for scholars to think, that Jews didn't know how to read and write?
True Hebrews have no idles, YHVH is found in His Word.
What kind of disciple doesn't take notes?
Mary had to have written part of The Testament of Messiah.
There IS Only One Hebrew Testament of Messiah, later translated and named "Matthew".
It was originally written in Hebrew, by
1. Mary
2. the disciples
3. Written or dictated by Messiah HimSelf!
Some events were only witnessed by them/Him.
Examples:
1. Mary - An Angel spoke to Joseph, Messiahs Birth, Wise Men Worshiping, Messiah and His Childhood travels.
2. The Disciples: The Transfiguration, only Messiah, Peter, James and John was there.
3. Messiah Only: the devils 3 Temptations
3.a. Messiah praying while the disciples slept.
Matthew" is the 40th Inspired Hebrew Book in The Bible.
The Last Inspired Book in The Bible...
Daniel 7 says that the beast (rome) would wear the saints. Did this happen?
Yes. By killing our Messiah, the disciples; and then deceiving believers for almost2,000 years? Sometimes the simplest explanation is True.
The Hebrews wrote in Hebrew, the romans wrote in greek.
Hebrews were inspired By Heavenly Father,
romans were inspired by demons.
The Covenant Father made with man is with Abrahams' seed,
rome makes covenant hell...
The Holy City is Jerusalem,
rome is a den of snakes...
Children of Messiah are Jews, Messiah is a Jew...
sons of rome are pagans...
The so-called modern scholars, like to say Mark was written first. Because it is the least flattering. Under this assumption the least accurate or degraded document would be called first/original.
No; Mark was written by a roman stooge, tranzlater, copying from “Matthew” in roman;
to corrupt and destroy the message of Messiah?
Matthew and Luke are a contradiction...
Beginning with the genealogies.
Matthew said the woman held Him by the feet and worshipped Him. Luke says that Jesus said, don't touch me for I have not yet ascended to My Father.
Spaul contradicts all The 40 Hebrew Inspired Books including “Matthew”.
The Old Testament so called "contradictions" or copy errors are few and can be easily explained with proper translation.
In the greek/roman/ "New Testament", there are many irreconcilable differences.
Because only “Matthew” was originally written in Hebrew. Anomalously/untitled.
It is “The Testament of Messiah,” the last Inspired book.
(example - Hebrew Matthew Shem Tov)
The roman/greek books that fallow are roman lies, propaganda and contradictions.
Wake up brothers and sisters!
Heavenly Father didn't start speaking greek after they killed His Only Begotten Son.
What do you think pilot did when the soldiers told him that the disciples stole Messiahs’ body?
The pharisees and Rome had 2,000 years to clean up the records;
it's still filthy…
more filthy..
While nero was burning Christian Children as torches, to light his pagan garden parties.
spaul praises rome, worshiping in greek with blasphemy and lies.
spaul says in
Romans 1: 8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. (This is a lie.)
9 For God is my witness, whom I serve [b]with my spirit in the gospel of His Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers.. (This is a lie.)
Where was the plan to get the Christian Children out of rome?
spaul was not interested in that.
Rome is the beast of Daniel 7 that wears out the saints for a season. (with the roman cannon)
Times Up!!!
Jesus is coming soon.
Heavenly Father Bless You...
For More,
Read “A Labyrinth In Time” by YT Rhyms;
www.amazon.com/Labyrinth-Time-Y-T-Rhyms-ebook/dp/B0BMWKFLCG/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1B3V9KA85ZCBH&keywords=ebook+Poems+A+Labyrinth+In+Time&qid=1670960840&sprefix=ebook+poems+a+labyrinth+in+time%2Caps%2C152&sr=8-1
Even ignoring how incredibly unhealthy it is to act like crying is an act of evil, isn't Jesus commonly depicted as having cried in Gethesmane before???
@@turtlelongingforchaos9055 his own mother cries lmao, she's always depicted crying
A baby that doesn't cry on birth is dead. That is biological and medical fact. A Bible Baptist classmate of mine in high school once claimed in an English class that babies first cry after birth because they want attention and that points to Original Sin. Now what fundamentalist stupidity is this?
@@turtlelongingforchaos9055 "Jesus wept" is itself a verse in the Bible! (John 11:35, where he learns of Lazarus' death, then resurrects him)
I've always hated the "were born sinful" because I feel that fuels this whole "your children manipulate you" narrative. Like no, your baby isn't crying bc they're malicious, they need soemthing
I know this is a serious and important thing, but I can't read this without laughing because of that one PragerU clip
"I want mommy, I want milk, I want to be held😩, I want to be comforted, and if you do not do all these things immediately, I will ruin your life 👶🔪"
-Dennis prager
There are books like How to Train up a Child that advocate hitting infants due to ideas like this.
@@adaralinshrinequeen7345omg I love Penis Prager😍
I remember visiting a Baptist church because a friend invited me there because they were having a dinner afterwards. Anyway, the pastor there was talking about how babies were sinners or something along that line. That bothered me because I always thought that babies were innocent. All they do is eat, sleep, cry, and poop! I never said anything about it because I don't want to cause a scene.
My mother still says “it’s hard to believe that sweet face is rotten to its core, but it is. We are all born sinful.”
We don’t visit Mamaw anymore. Being an atheist has been the first time I’ve experienced peace in my whole life.
This is me. No contact with Christian parents and being atheist saved my life.
@@Reevay762 good for you!!
@@Jezebel066Always be there for your mother and always help her as long as she is not abusive towards you.
As for her beliefs, throw them in the trash.
Tell her you will always love her and help her, but you refuse to follow the twisted doctrine of Original sin aswell as organised religion in general.
If she really loves you she will accept these terms.
You are a evil devil
Repent accept jahovah and do good works
I have struggled with that most of my life here in the United states
My youth leader, (who was also my Uncle) once asked me to show him where in the bible it said that babies go to heaven. Which I couldn’t do.
My little brother died at two days old because he was born with hypoplastic left heart syndrome. A condition that back in ‘87 made him “incompatible with life”. So according to my faith community, my brother was fearfully and wonderfully made… and destined for hell.
I credit my uncle with opening the door that led me out of fundamentalism. He caused years of internal torment before I finally realized it was all BS, but in the end I’m free and he (unintentionally) led me there.
Your uncle sounds like a narcissistic and cruel piece of shit. Saying your dead brother went to hell because he's a baby is just an awful thing to say. I want nothing of what he considers, "love."
Anyone who thinks a baby should go to hell is a psychopath.
Didn't Jesus say that those who didn't know of his or God's existence will automatically go to Heaven?
He didn't. The bible has been used to support arguments for both inclusivest (those who never hear the gospel may be saved), and exclusivest salvation (only those who hear the gospel and recognize Jesus as their savior will be saved). Because the bible is not clear or concise, different groups within Christianity have taken different positions. The group I was part of (the Plymouth Brethren) took the most severe stance, barring even infants from heaven.
When writing in 1899 about infant baptism (and how it is pagan) Sir Robert Anderson wrote:
"Here is an infant, born but yesterday, and yet so frail and sickly that its young life may flicker out at any moment. The question arises, If it should die, what is to be its future? If it dies in its present condition, we are told it must be lost, heaven it cannot enter. But, we plead, the poor creature does not know its right hand from its left ; it is absolutely innocent. Why should it be thus punished?
Personally innocent, yes, we are answered; but by natural generation it belongs to the fallen race, and Adam's sin must banish it to hell." That was the position my church held.
@@NimWithRandomNumbers
Aleister Crowley's family brought him up in the Plymouth Brethren and he left them as he said they were an evil group.
The concept of original sin ruined my self-esteem for years when I was a believer.
"We shouldn't have SELF Esteem, but should have CHRIST Esteem" 🤢
That's what I've heard so often from the time I was in middle school, growing up as a Fundie, and I'm still wrestling with that to this day (to the point where I don't even know the definitions of Self Love and Self Esteem actually are and how to express them in a healthy way)
@@rachel_sj I heard that all the fucking time. Needless to say, my self esteem and mental health improved considerably after I deconstructed from Christianity.
Same
This. You're not alone in that at all
@@rachel_sj I was told similar things growing up - that you should always be what the invisible man in the sky wants you to be! The very idea of being your own person was forbidden because you are not your own: the invisible man in the sky bought you with a price of his blood that flowed from a dead guy on a stick about 2,000 years ago!
Well, all I have to say is that this purchase is null and void.
Something I have yet to get a good answer to is how Adam and Eve could possibly have committed a sin by "eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil" if before eating from that tree they didn't know what good and evil were and therefore could not know what this disobedience or sin was.
My thoughts exactly!
Beacuse the Church lies to you about everything, including the theology. By eating the fruit they did not disobey god it is simply that God told them what it will do. You eat the fruit and indead the snake is shown a liar. You gain a power beyond God.
You gain the power to know the difference between good and evil, god does not have this power and this is how he remains blameless. God does not have this knowledge, you are ganger than he is. Eating the fruit of life is what would make you like God, it would make you immortal.
This is why we had to be kicked out, God holds our mortality over us. You can not go to Hell, nobody can. Nobody who would have eternal life. You just pass away. Ever wonder why the Jews don't tend to believe in Hell? It is not in their book, not in Genesis, not in the old testament.
They never tell you the truth. From the word go they are not telling you the truth.
My favorite point. Hell, our legal system won't hold someone responsible if they are not mentally competent, which would describe A&E pretty well; they would have believed anyone or done anything anyone told them to, without the ability to tell right from wrong! Would you blame the kid who shot someone, or the parent who left the gun on the table? Esp if that parent was supposed to be omniscient, which means they HAD to know what was happening at the time. Besides, if it was SO important that mankind be kept in our original state, and God is truly All-Powerful, then why not simply dissolve the OS from their souls with a snap of his fingers? He can do anything! Just pluck the new knowledge of good and evil right out of their heads! Unless Sin is stronger than God...Or if the blood sacrifice was really somehow the ONLY way he could "fix" people, then why not do so right away, instead of waiting for thousands of years worth of pain, misery and death, when he could have done it in Adam's own lifetime? No good answers coming for any of these...
@@n0etic_f0xyou got some badass theology there, keep it up! :)
You may or may not find this compelling, but my understanding (currently a former christian) is that Adam and Eve knew that they weren't supposed to eat from the tree. "Evil" as christians define it is breaking God's law. Adam and Eve knew that they were supposed to do as God said and thus by the christian's definition, they did know what good and evil were. As for why the tree is called the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, your guess is as good as mine, perhaps it's an allegory or perhaps it's because they didn't learn of the consequences of their actions until they broke the rule.
Darn, Voddie’s “viper in a diaper” joke has some major “children with leukemia have the power in society because you can’t make fun of them” energy
As a former child with leukemia I wish I had known I had that much power. 😂
it at least explains why they’re so keen on beating their children. they interpret a small, defenseless, unknowing creature as consciously defying and antagonizing them by using their only means of communication to voice their body’s needs. in a way, their view of babies mirrors god’s view of adam and eve.
As ridiculous sounding as it was funny. I'm gonna use that term from now on.
It’s also so ironic how “innocent” a baby is, when the subject of abortion is on the table.
@@stevenbatke2475 Absolutely. Here in Texas, anti-abortionists pay to put up billboards saying "Abortion stops a beating heart." I guess the goal is to guilt people into protecting "innocent" babies. Strange how that innocence seems to disappear when the first diaper goes on.
I had an argument with a born again coworker over original sin once and how "god is allegedly all knowing all powerful".
His whole defense boiled down to hand waiving it away and saying "Our mortal minds simply can't comprehend the motives and plans of a higher being". That stuck with me because he relinquished all critical thought willingly and eagerly. I was blown away.
I hate it whenever people just give up. Maybe persistence is just part of my personality. If it's really that important to him, why would he give up understanding it?
There is so much that we don't understand. For example, everyone feel the gravity, see how it does to us and objects yet no one can explain what it is. There are theories out there we've learnt in school and taken as fact, until the model can't explain the new phenomenon. It takes a leap of faith to do so. One doesn't have to believe in gravity, yet can suffer the consequence. If one think he/she can cheat and get away with it. He/She is self-deceived, arrogant and prideful of thinking he/she somehow can play by a different reality and everyone else is a fool. Indeed, he/she may get away with it a few time, but the result is it weaken the characters (with the exception of psychopaths but sometime they getting slippery). If a person wants to be strong, he/she must realize she/she is weak and therefore hit the gym with proper diet. To think one is already strong and hype up with notion that everyone else is weak is a fatal understanding.
@miaomiaochan No, my point was about the law of consequence. Gravity is an example for "man reaps what he sows". But yes, if you can strawman an argument why bother to use "critical thinking". Dare if you must to reach down to the bottom of your soul and examize honestly all the thoughts and actions you done and that will sum of why you're at the current state. But i doubt it until you have a crisis you won't do so like most people.
@@ianbuick8946people can explain gravity just fine and have been able to do so for many, many, maaaaany years, but to sum up extremely basic facts about it for you.
Objects have a thing called mass, more mass means the objects have a stronger gravity, it's just not an effect that really kicks in until you get to incredibly large, dense objects like, oh, planets, or suns.
This is some basic stuff, it's only a scientific 'theory' in so much as that basically everything in science, no matter how well-proven, is still a theory, because there may be aspects relating to it that are not fully understood yet, such as what the effects of extreme gravity around things such as black holes are.
Congratulations, you have fallen for the classic 'god of the gaps'.
Thing you don't understand? God.
Thing you don't like not having a single unchanging answer to? God.
@@ianbuick8946but CAN explain gravity just fine, that’s where your argument just breaks down. We understand why and how gravity happens.
"Babies cry because they're evil" is some "To Train Up a Child" bullshit, like it's not just not funny it's literally encouraging abuse. Hearing that extended laughter is legit bringing me back to being a kid hearing church group parents trade "funny anecdotes" about hitting their children, and just that helpless realization that everyone around you is fucking insane.
These people are gonna be alone when they're old
True, I'm a pure angel. I never cried as a baby lol, Make sense I question humans everyday
Life gets so much brighter when you're not terrified that any thought or feeling you have is ontological evil. It's hard to break free from that mindset, but it's so worth it
Agreed - once you realize that "good" and "evil" are merely social constructs that are defined by humans, for humans you are free to create your own concepts of "right" and "wrong" and put them into practice for yourself instead of living by the arbitrary rules attributed to some invisible man in the sky!
La la la Life is so easy when you're evil. Lalala An I do it all for free. Lalala 😁😄😃🤩😋
@hackman669 this is the life you, see. The devil tips his hat to me
@@darkninjafirefoxah, a person of culture I see
@@AxionZetaOnerhymes
Tbh this is one of the reasons I reject Christianity. This idea that we are always guilty. It’s so negative at its base. Our whole life will have to be filled with asking for forgiveness for just existing.
I'm almost human. La la la... Almost a human being... Just like your... LALALA
Yup, that's honestly something that made my depression, anxiety, and mental illness so much worse.
When children are made to pray to be forgiven of their sins when they're just babes....disgusting
I never believed and was instantly insulted when I was told (as a little girl). I'm Autistic I have very firm beliefs when it comes to equality. When you think of the way "God" sets up this situation it's simply a narcissistic parent fucking with his kids lives because he can't handle his own shit. This abuse and gross and wrong. ESPECIALLY the damage this set up does to Eve. Jesus is his "golden child", Satan is the "scapegoat" (and the goat part of that label is not lost on me), He mobilizes his different angels to punish Lucifer because Lucifer isn't perfect and he is God's younger reflection.
How are they supposed to sell you the solution without first convincing you you have a problem??
The lasting damage of learning that I was "born evil" as a child has stuck with me into adulthood and I think is part of the origin of my depression, alcohol abuse and low self esteem.
All emotional-rooted problems
Yes.. and that's why I would never be in a religion ever again..
Learning to love myself at 40. You can do it too!! You’re not a bad person & was born a perfect little being 😊
You can’t sell fundamentalist Christianity without original sin.
That’s also something about traditional Christianity I never could subscribe to. There are other belief systems that more perfectly balance this idea of right and wrong. I’m personally a Latter Day Saint and I think that out of all Christianity dominations this one beat balances this idea with more traditional ideas of Adam and Eve. While I’m not trying to convert anyone, I would recommend you read up on Latter Day Saints and the original sin of your curious on a much more nuanced and less guilt trippy view of our selves in a Christian context
My father (a pastor) would absolutely say a baby that died was going to hell. My childhood was as fun as you can imagine knowing that.
....I've read a poem as a child about angels bringing them to heaven... From the 1800s ... Y'all weird 😭
@@tulip811Well tbf, poems aren't divinely inspired. The bible that says only professing jesus with your mouth saves you from hell is apparently inspired, though. So baby burning isn't an out there idea, at least within a christian framework
@@tulip811 dude I know I was FLOORED when he told me that as a kid 😭 I never agreed with him then and I certainly don’t now as an adult who left the church and the faith.
@@bariumselenided5152 and my dad is an exegetical preacher so it’s verse by verse and taking everything VERY literally so for him it makes sense but that doesn’t make it less horrifying and brutal
@@tulip811 Not everyone had the same experience
I really appreicate your format of playing sermons and responding to them; it avoids straw man fallacies and shields against "well that's just that one church/sect/pastor." Plus the movie/tv clips you play along them make it bearable 😂
😂😂😂
I tried confronting my mother's beliefs yesterday, and letting her know just how much harm it's done to me, my siblings, and her grandchildren.
She shut down and told me that nothing I do, nothing I say, will ever change her belief. She refuses to admit she is wrong.
She became a born-again Christian 17 years ago. I felt like I was losing my mother then. And now, it feels like I've lost her all over again to this cult of viciousness and manipulation and fear.
I don't know what to do.
Your videos have helped me so much. I want to show her this, in hopes that it could make some sort of difference. That it could break her out of her cycle of self-harm and harm to others. But I fear nothing will.
Thank you for making it this far, and I'm glad to have been a long-time watcher. I hope things will get better soon. If anyone else is going through this, losing their loved ones... You're not alone.
Wishing things get way better for you 🙏✨💖!!
Things will get better!
Conservatives of all religions can never admit they are wrong. That's why they can't learn history in a way that helps them improve their worldview. All they can do is keep repeating it, only better next time.
You may come to a point when, for your own mental and emotional health, you need to avoid the topic with your mom. In my family we talk about food and the weather.
And if she refuses to respect that boundary, you may have to consider reducing contact, especially for the sake of your children.
I still remember the moment the thought finally crossed my mind - what if you aren’t broken? What if you don’t need to be saved?
I hope folks reading this struggling with this ask themselves the same questions.
I've certainly been broken, but it's funnily been at the hands of those who claim to be my saviors.
Yep, some authority figures suck @@grimnir2922
@@grimnir2922 And THAT realization is how you begin to escape the abuse.
"But...but...but...if you don't need to be saved, how will us good religious people control you?"
I grew up a form of methodist; those "fearfully and wonderfuly made"/"made in gods image" type of folk. Out of all the trouble I had, I somehow escaped (for the most part) being told I was awful by nature. My husband, on the other hand, was southern Baptist.
We visited his side of the family in the Bible Belt South and politely attended church with them. The service started out with a baby dedication, with several newborns and one newly adopted 10 year old boy standing in the row alongside parents holding their babies. The pastor began preaching and started out pleasantly enough saying how these children were "wonderful children of god." But then pivoted with his full chest, proclaimed: "and they are all dirty sinners to their CORE."
My methodist raised mind could not understand. I had only ever seen things like that said on TV! I still think about that 10 year old boy :/
All superstitions are bad, but the Southern Baptists and the Evangelicalism it inspires are a version of the old religion that was so perverted from justifying the sin of slavery that it never recovered and only got worse over time.
imagine trying to logic out that BABIES are evil. literally dont even understand the concept of "good" or "bad" things. all they know is what stimulus brings pain or not, and half the time they guess wrong about that too
@@_crowfisherThey don't believe that. They really think even babies choose. They believe they have the capacity to act like an adult and don't because they haven't had the sin punished out of them yet. I grew up Southern Baptist and instead of the sin of Adam being, like, "instead of a perfect world everyone is capable of evil and will die," they see it as "everyone IS evil and deserving of Hell unless they convert to my specific theology."
Did your church give you the girl talk about how it's our fault if we receive unwanted sexual attention? I was 7 years old and an old church lady explained my "virtue" is the only good thing to hold on to and if you have sex before marriage you are as disgusting as a chewed up and discarded piece of gum.
@hexkrew4257 wouldn't abortion be great? Getting rid of something God hates?
I would love to see someone try to use this logic in court. "Your honor, it's unfair to blame me for the death of my baby, I told them not to drink that bleach before I let them play unsupervised under my sink."
Teaching someone that they're fundamentally evil and worthy of punishment in a way that is entirely out of their control is also a great way to get them to automatically internalize and blame themselves for everything if you, say, decide to abuse them for years and years in secret.
It's gross. Their spaul-ing all over the place.. Heavenly Father told Good People "Adam and Eve," not to do one thing that will hurt them; one thing that would kill them.. They got tricked. They sinned; yet they received mercy; Father didn't kill them. He didn't send them directly to hell... The First Response of Heavenly Father toward us was Mercy... Today we have HIS Commandments and Messiah is our Perfect example... We don't have to sin.
Almost 2,000 years since Messiah arose from the dead.
The saints are worn out by the beast (the roman cannon/spaul; )for a time.
All sin is not equal... pagan rome put those lies in "the bible".
The Truth is available Today..
We don't have to obey the devil worshipping s-paul/romans...
We can be like Messiah and do what Father told us to do...
This "content creator" has his own reasons for his sin/lies/degradation.
He shouldn't try to Judge Heavenly Father.
We are victims of a roman hijacking of Our Messiahs' Message..
That's why the Churches look more like a circus than synagogues.
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Spaul was a psycho!!!
He killed many Christians, he never showed any remorse, compassion, nor empathy.
No justice. He never even made a stinking apology.
He never took a collection for the victims families he killed.
Not because he was too shy to ask for money, he demanded a tithe from the poor..
He cursed The Angels of Heaven, You, me and every Christian that ever taught from Matthew, Mark, Luke or John…
Spaul says in Galatians 1;8 “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”
Which of the commandments did spaul free you from?
You shall not covert your neighbors ...
You shall not kill? You shall not steal? Don’t lay with a menstruating Wife?
No, but he picked no circumcision.
He sounds like a smegma fan.
Oh, and spaul said he is free from every law; so you can’t blame him for sht.
Messiah is circumcised.
Will you face Him with your smeg stanking in the breeze, standing before Him?
Will you say, “spaul said circumcision is a curse..?”
We're Saved by The Blood of Messiah!!! not spauls gospel.
How silly is the sissy spaul?
A bragging roman/pharisee; killer of innocent Christians?
According to The Law, spaul would have been put to death for murdering the innocent...
Who was this miserable punk to tell Women to keep silent?
What about Mary Madeline?
What about Messiahs' mother, should they be silenced?
Woman can’t speak in Church?
I thought he said, they are not under The Law?
According to spaul, disagreeing with his gospel is damnation…
Everything else was cool though?
Messiah never said that junk.
Come on People! A change like that, He would have fore told us about.
spaul calls himself a roman and a pharisee; yet he never repented on their behalf, for Killing Messiah. spaul said there is no male nor female in Christ.
More gender confusion.
Freed from the law of being a closet cornholer?
Like the roman priests?
How pompous it is for scholars to think, that Jews didn't know how to read and write?
True Hebrews have no idles, YHVH is found in His Word.
What kind of disciple doesn't take notes?
Mary had to have written part of The Testament of Messiah.
There IS Only One Hebrew Testament of Messiah, later translated and named "Matthew".
It was originally written in Hebrew, by
1. Mary
2. the disciples
3. Written or dictated by Messiah HimSelf!
Some events were only witnessed by them/Him.
Examples:
1. Mary - An Angel spoke to Joseph, Messiahs Birth, Wise Men Worshiping, Messiah and His Childhood travels.
2. The Disciples: The Transfiguration, only Messiah, Peter, James and John was there.
3. Messiah Only: the devils 3 Temptations
3.a. Messiah praying while the disciples slept.
Matthew" is the 40th Inspired Hebrew Book in The Bible.
The Last Inspired Book in The Bible...
Daniel 7 says that the beast (rome) would wear the saints. Did this happen?
Yes. By killing our Messiah, the disciples; and then deceiving believers for almost2,000 years? Sometimes the simplest explanation is True.
The Hebrews wrote in Hebrew, the romans wrote in greek.
Hebrews were inspired By Heavenly Father,
romans were inspired by demons.
The Covenant Father made with man is with Abrahams' seed,
rome makes covenant hell...
The Holy City is Jerusalem,
rome is a den of snakes...
Children of Messiah are Jews, Messiah is a Jew...
sons of rome are pagans...
The so-called modern scholars, like to say Mark was written first. Because it is the least flattering. Under this assumption the least accurate or degraded document would be called first/original.
No; Mark was written by a roman stooge, tranzlater, copying from “Matthew” in roman;
to corrupt and destroy the message of Messiah?
Matthew and Luke are a contradiction...
Beginning with the genealogies.
Matthew said the woman held Him by the feet and worshipped Him. Luke says that Jesus said, don't touch me for I have not yet ascended to My Father.
Spaul contradicts all The 40 Hebrew Inspired Books including “Matthew”.
The Old Testament so called "contradictions" or copy errors are few and can be easily explained with proper translation.
In the greek/roman/ "New Testament", there are many irreconcilable differences.
Because only “Matthew” was originally written in Hebrew. Anomalously/untitled.
It is “The Testament of Messiah,” the last Inspired book.
(example - Hebrew Matthew Shem Tov)
The roman/greek books that fallow are roman lies, propaganda and contradictions.
Wake up brothers and sisters!
Heavenly Father didn't start speaking greek after they killed His Only Begotten Son.
What do you think pilot did when the soldiers told him that the disciples stole Messiahs’ body?
The pharisees and Rome had 2,000 years to clean up the records;
it's still filthy…
more filthy..
While nero was burning Christian Children as torches, to light his pagan garden parties.
spaul praises rome, worshiping in greek with blasphemy and lies.
spaul says in
Romans 1: 8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. (This is a lie.)
9 For God is my witness, whom I serve [b]with my spirit in the gospel of His Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers.. (This is a lie.)
Where was the plan to get the Christian Children out of rome?
spaul was not interested in that.
Rome is the beast of Daniel 7 that wears out the saints for a season. (with the roman cannon)
Times Up!!!
Jesus is coming soon.
Heavenly Father Bless You...
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Self care isn't ONLY so we have the energy to do things for others. It's also because we're treating our own well being as of at least equal worth as the well being of others.
Right look where self care has gotten us into Babylon oh how she has fallen for we all are wicked until we all repent and admit that Jesus Christ is our savior we all will still be stuck in this world
Your videos almost always feel like cleaning out a wound so it can heal. I've been an atheist over half my life now, but it feels like I'm still uncovering old wounds from my childhood, things I thought I'd gotten over or don't need to think about anymore. A bunch of the clips you show are from people I know because my mom watched them, or in the case of Answers in Genesis I actually went in person. A lot of the outros end up making me cry, or getting me very close, but it always gives me a lot to think about and process, and I feel a lot better afterwards. So thank you for all you do, I'm sure it's not easy filtering through the sermon clips in order to make these, but it really is invaluable.
That first line is so accurate and so relatable. They’re cathartic. I feel lighter after each one. Thank you, Trevor ❤️
John MacArthur gave me middle school era flashbacks. Ick
I'm a universalist now, but I feel the same about these videos. Cleaning out the old crap and religious trauma to make way for what beliefs seem most true and healing to ME, not because I'm afraid or have to.
Peter Gabriel’s “digging in the dirt” is a great song.
Like many things in the Bible, the concept of original sin is both profoundly evil and completely ridiculous.
We’re talking curly mustache and top hat, proportions of ridiculous evil.
This comment is profoundly ridiculous. There is no justification to believe that humans are inherently good.
If Mary was born into sin then doesn't that mean Jesus was born into sin?
@@TheBuckweat33very well… support your statement.
@@ADULTS_ONLY_AllExistenceItselfaccording to Catholic dogma, Mary was allegedly born without sin. Which makes no sense. If she could be born without sin, what about the rest of us??
Evangelical ProLifers: babies are precious!
Also Evangelical ProLifers: kids are sinful and evil and we must beat them!
Also this series has helped me as someone trying to heal from all the abuse I suffered growing up fundamentalist baptist.
Also evangelical "prolifers" : medicare for all is socialism! Free school lunch for low income families is socialism!
Same. Watching this series has caused so many aha moments about why I had mental health issues as a kid. Every video gives me a list of things to discuss with my therapist lol
Even the Devil has admitted that babies are nor born evil, I really despise pro birthers
I wonder, does their love of beating and abusing kids does come from that original sin idea?
We do need to stop the babies from being sold, chopped up, and sold. It's not good guys
Excellent video as usual! I was one of the lucky ones. My family stopped going to church when I was about 10 years old. When I was 14 I largely began to question my beliefs. I made it out without having to do with all the trauma that money in the comments have experienced. I'm hopeful for the continued healing of members of the non-believing community.
every time original sin was brought up in my church they would say how babies are so sinful, how a baby’s cry is sinful, how babies are selfish and that’s why they cry,,,, like,,, what
I so wish your channel had been around in the 90s when I was first deconstructing and had ZERO support/guidance/resources. This series - and your content in general - is a breath of fresh air even for the long-time deconverted, like me. So glad you exist.
Back then, the idea that people would begin abandoning the superstitions of our ancestors at the rate they are today felt like an impossible yet beautiful dream.
"THE CRUCIFIX FISH TESTIFIES" Look it up and see God's perpetual memorial to the crucifixion and resurrection that He made on day five of creation.
@@brisadelcastillo2840 No thanks.
@@kandyjo ignorance is bliss
@@kandyjo The best response, "take a hike" is good too.
Religion has a funny idea of "God's love". If you had a bunch of kids in your house, and they accidentally poisoned themselves with poison you left on the kitchen table, would you A) immediately give them the antidote, or B) lock yourself away and hide from them in the attic, leaving only your diary with clues how to find you; when they find you and bang on the door, you DEMAND that they beg you for help, swear eternal loyalty to you...oh yeah, and fork over 10% of all your earnings for the rest of your life, in order to get the antidote...Does B) sound like "love" to you?
He…does give an antidote. That’s Jesus’s whole thing.
@@patatoe2124 You missed the point. Put yourself and your own family in the situation above: Do you require them to jump through so many hoops *in order to get your antidote*...or do you just GIVE it to them, free of charge, with no stipulations or conditions, even IF they curse you? Which response says "love" to you more?
@@HandofOmega he doesn’t make you jump through hoops. It is free. That’s the whole idea
@@patatoe2124You never read the Bible or any theology, then
@@aetherkid I have read the entire thing.
Ah yes Original Sin, one of the first things that started me on the road to Atheism. As a kid the concept didn't make sense to me, "Why am I being punished for something i had nothing to do with? For something that happened god knows how long ago" etc. Thoughts like that. Because, it simply didn't make sense. Why do I have to suffer because of the actions of somebody who I've even met
Not only that, "If God loves me so much, why is he punishing me for the crimes of someone else"
Never got a satisfactory answer to those questions
Jesus taught that a person born blind was not born with sin, but unfortunate. The Christians forgot that.
Unfortunately, once sin entered the world there was no way to remove it. In the beginning, sin was transferred from man to animals such as lambs or doves. However, it didn't disappear. In the New Testament Jesus was the lamb that was sacrificed for the sins of the world. Thus, our sins were transferred to Jesus. But this sin has not disappeared outright. However thanks to Jesus' sacrifice we can be saved and be united with him. This doesn't mean we are perfect but it does mean we can go to Heaven when this life is over.
@@falconeshieldgod created that misfortune and didn’t care
@@aliciausephnot all will be saved due to our nature and the earth, all things humanity has no control over.
@@TalpaTulpa Unfortunately all will not be saved, even the Bible says this. But there is still hope. The beautiful thing about salvation is that it doesn't matter if you received Christ 10 or 20 years ago or if you accept him on your deathbed. All can be saved if we simply admit, believe, and confess the name of Jesus. It's a free gift to all, but it's your choice to accept or deny it.
31:20 “We all know that if someone attacks your heel you won’t be dead”
*Achilles has entered the chat*
Also I love how she’s so caught up in the metaphor she’s completely forgotten snakes have venom
😂😂😂 hilarious
The biggest problem with saying 'He was born that way, a sinner, evil' is that it gives someone an excuse to commit those evils. Because it's 'in his nature to be evil', so you ought not punish them for what they can't control.
Original sin for me led to years of self harm, anxiety, and self punishment. I hated myself for being so disgusting and sinful. Thankyou for these videos, they really help in deconstruction these ideas in my mind. This month i’m celebrating 3 years free from religion, and i have never felt better. Love all your videos 🩷
Thank you for sharing yo ur story, I know exactly how you feel. I started self harm a while ago and am just now stopping
Pimps and student lenders have the same business model: You owe me and you’ll never be able to pay it back, but you’re going to pay me back.
I (atheist) got into it with my husband (Episcopalian) after a sermon where they talked about everyone being born broken. I absolutely hate that people are told they are born broken and only God/Jesus can mend them. He thought it was a beautiful sentiment that even broken, everyone is worthy. He just couldn't understand why I found it manipulative. But after listening to what these pastors were saying, holy Christ on a cracker!
Really glad my husband picked a church (he left the Roman Catholic Church) that encourages people to be better, to do good works to show their love of their fellow man, and their desire to show their love of Jesus by emulating him.
Also, I feel bad for Voddie Baucham's nine kids. Having a dad that thinks they are evil from the moment the come out into the world... Poor kiddos.
If I weren’t Catholic (a denomination I willingly picked as opposed to the Evangelicalism I was talked into) I’d think Jesus was a cult leader…in spite of the miracles. And the more I find out about him, the more uneasy it makes me feel.
As you can tell, I’m not conservative.
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Christianity (especially Evangelicalism) isn’t nicknamed “Paulianity” for nothing.
With that out of the way, I can tell you only by personal experience that, even though the liturgy includes a lot of Paul’s epistles, it seems Catholicism relies more on the Gospel of Luke than any of the other four Gospels (Matthew, Mark, John). On the other hand, Protestantism (Evangelicalism) really leans on the Gospel of John (re: John 3:16 for example) along with Paul. Imo, John is the most conservative of all of them…very absolutist. They want to nail the authoritarian dictatorship of Jesus Christ…and by extension, the Triune God…as close to home as possible.
Overall, Christianity uses terms like “Lord,” “King,” God,” “Father,” etc as much as it can. You really can’t breathe unless you’re conscious of being squarely under his dominion. Great for conservatives. Not so great if you’re a liberal.
Just in case we’re on the same page, Paul didn’t author a gospel.
@@TheTrueOnyxRose I have some distinct issues with Catholicism (mostly the inherent sexism) and with the Roman Catholic Church (abuse scandal cover ups) itself, but Catholics themselves not so much. Heck, One of my dearest friends, who was the best man at my wedding (done in the Catholic Church) is a devout Roman Catholic and does a ton of work with Catholic Charities. And our local Archbishop is the reason my husband didn't leave for Episcopalianism much sooner. Archbishop Gustavo García-Siller is a truly kind and good man, if more in the priesthood had been like him, my husband probably would have stayed. Unfortunately you have ones like Archbishop Cordileone who is so aggressively conservative to the point of cruelty that he is almost single-handedly deconverting San Francisco away from the Roman Catholic Church. (My husband is from San Francisco and still has family there.)
Also, in case you are wondering why I keep specifying Roman Catholic, my kid's godfather is Greek Orthodox, who call themselves Catholic. Her godmother is Roman Catholic. And the Episcopal Church also considers itself Catholic. After getting asked which Catholic Church I meant about 20 times I just started being really specific. (Interesting difference between Roman Catholic and Episcopal. In RC godparents have to be RC. The Episcopal Church doesn't care, they are just happy you are there. This even goes for my atheist self.)
@@KellyDVance:
Oh I detest sexism in every part of society, including atheism (atheism has its problems…hardly any area of male-dominated culture doesn’t), so it’s not just in Catholicism. And the excuses these guys come up with! A lot of women are good with it…some even prefer it…but I’m not about that.
I’m aware of some Orthodox Church communities that are actually in communion with the Catholic Church, rather than stand apart from her. Yeah, they really are Catholic, but they prefer to stick to their Orthodox rites rather than change over to the Roman Rite. It’s as complicated as letting Orthodox priests keep their wives if they decide to convert to Catholicism. They won’t let their other priests have that privilege. But you know, marriage is an actual sacrament, and you can’t break that up. That would be unconscionable….
As for the Anglican/Episcopalian Churches, I see them as RC Lite. Yes, characteristically speaking they’re Protestant, but they’re kind of not. They’re about as close as you can get to being Catholic without crossing over. Lutheranism isn’t far behind. And Presbyterianism behind *them.* And so on.
@@TheTrueOnyxRose The problem with comparing sexism in atheism to sexism in the R.C. is that atheist aren't a hierarchical system. In R.C. a woman can literally not hold a position as a priest, and the story of Pope Joan is widely held to be fictional, and even than she had to be in drag.
The nice thing about the Episcopal Church (Catholic lite, better dressed Catholics, all the ritual half the guilt Catholics, etc.) is that women can be priests and the LGBTQIA+ is embraced. As an atheist I still find fault, but it isn't with their behavior.
But, I think we can all agree that the Evangelical non-mainstream Protestants have gone way too far into fundy-land.
The story of original sin is actually what started my deconstruction!
Me too girl!
God's love for us is truly beautiful.
It's just like a man who loves his wife so much, that he tells her, that if she doesn't love him back, he'll lock her in the basement and set her on fire.
Beautiful.
Regarding the 'do not lie' commandment, sometimes it is absolutely required to lie. I was listening to a Rabbi being interviewed by an atheist on a radio show, and this question was posed to the Rabbi: "It's 1943 Netherlands, you're hiding Jews in your house and thus saving their lives. SS troops knock on the door and ask if there are any Jews in the house. Wouldn't lying be the right thing to do?" I still remember the Rabbi's response. He squirmed and completely dodged the question: "Well, by that time so many mistakes have been made, that the question is irrelevant"
Or think about this: Your homeland has been invaded by a brutal and merciless army. You naturally take up arms and fight them. During battle you're captured by the enemy, and you have a vital piece of information in your brain about troop positions that will greatly aid the enemy. The enemy troops ask "Do you know your troop positions?" According to the bible, you should tell the enemy everything, and thus costing the lives of your comrades. Surely lying there is the right thing to do?
Yes, don't steal, don't lie, don't be an ass to other people. All very good rules. But fundamentalists really try to drive home the point that these are iron clad rules that can never be bent, and if they need to be bent, it's all our fault anyway.
We now are seeing the extent of projection that sociopaths exude. A Venn diagram of these groups would be enlightening.
Im, as a Jew, one of the first things I learned is that it's ok to break a rule or commandment if it saves a life... I remember reading a story of rabbis lighting a fire on sabbath. There are other folktales of jews breaking rules for noble purposes as well. Jews have a very different set of beliefs then Christians, they really just took the book and not anything else...
@@cosmicandy4620 Ya but out of the many inventions to keep the sabbath holy , to avoid "Technically" doing "The" work . . . is anybody gleaning patent benefits ?
That was my instant thought, this isn't a tough question in judaism. No idea why a rabbi would squirm.
Echoing what CosmicAndy said, in the view of Judaism, almost any rule can be broken if it's for the sake of saving a person's life (one of the exceptions being idol worship). Breaking the Sabbath rules for a medical emergency is very common, bigger Jewish communities even have a community-run EMT response network in case of such emergencies
Religion told me I was bad for existing and being an undiagnosed autistic kid with pronounced PTSD most of the people I knew reinforced that, I didn't start to care about myself at all until recently but I'm so happy to be free
Keep taking care!! 🙏🙏🙏💓💓💓❤️❤️❤️❤️
If more able bodied and minded people followed the words or their lord the world would be a better place.
Yep. I was told I was being "influenced by demons" when what I actually was was walking around with undiagnosed ADHD and autism. I was punished and condemned for things I had literally no control over, so I feel you. Keep going, you're doing amazing ❤ We both are, and we're better for not having their mythology held over our heads
Im happy you got free
@@wakkuwakkuwakku YaY thank you :D
"You owe yourself everything. Sin is a matter of opinion. Sins are only sins if you are hurting other people. Live your life, no matter what that life is." - Corey Taylor
Is that from a song?
@@kalebb1226 no, it's from his book Seven Deadly Sins
My opinion is that not hurting other people is a sin
Slipknot?
@@patatoe2124 Literal christian mindset with every oppressed group out there.
Thanks for these videos. They really help. From outside of religion, I have a hard time understanding WHY people who are believers believe what to me sounds like a bunch of highly manipulative fairy tales. It's so ironic that believing in original sin leads believers to accept bad, or even evil, behavior from other evangelicals because everybody is a sinner anyway. If you're in the out-group though, all acceptance is definitely off the table!
I was brought up in church in like, Elementary & middle school. Some of the beliefs held on longer than others, for me it had to do a lot with generational trauma and wanting a sense of stability and rules to live by. I did see a study done about the correlation between religion and poverty which is fascinating. Advocating and passing laws for stronger, smarter gov social spending, mental healthcare (de stigmatized) and collective bargaining ought to be at top of the list
This video sent me into a massive anxiety attack. These are all the messages from the people I used to listen to and let create my life into a living hell of self loathing and fear. Of endless gaslighting. I left everything behind to try and find salvation, as I grew my OCD.
After 1,5 years of trying to be saved, which came after 3 years of having believed I was saved, both chastising myself for relying on my own faith too much and for not believing right, even though I called out and actually weeped uncontrollably over the depth of my sinfulness that I would even try to believe in the wrong way, I broke and ran. I had lost all will to live, I looked like a skeleton, I hadn’t cracked a joke for ages, felt too sinful to eat or take my medication (everything not of faith is sin, thanks Piper for that horrible teaching) so I lost 18kilo’s. After this I slowly recovered sanity and decided to look at the things I believed from the “other perspective”. I learned so much. I don’t think I can return to belief unless I witness some miracle. It’s really all myth upon myth upon failed prophecy upon reinterpretation of said prophecy.
Oh. And comments on what I did wrong are not welcome. You don’t know me, you don’t know my mental state at the time.
Thank you for sharing your story, because oh my goodness it felt like looking in a mirror. I know exactly what you mean. It’s so exhausting and sometimes it still scares me a bit too but it brings me some catharsis to know other people are like me too.
Years ago, when I was still a Christian, I had a nightmare and, looking back on it, it seems like an example of internalized guilt for "original sin."
I had murdered three strangers for no reason and my dream began with me grappling with the guilt and trying to cover it up. The guilt was so intense that it felt like I had actually murdered them, not just in a dream. I've never felt so guilty even in my waking life.
I dug a hole and buried one of them in the woods. I was so physically and mentally exhausted afterward that I knew I didn't have the strength to bury the other two, so I took the second to a place I knew where a stream ran underground but part of it had collapsed so there were already exposed, cave-like holes in the ground with enough space for a body. I drug the second body into the muddy hole with me, trying to get him in far enough that he wasn't exposed. As I was dragging him in, soaking wet and covered in mud, I felt something under my hands so I took out my phone to use the flashlight and revealed that the hole was already lined with human bones. I realized that one of two things were true. And perhaps in dream logic, both were true.
1) Other murderers had buried their victims in this exact place. I was merely following in the footsteps of the worst people who ever lived. Even at the time, I connected this to the Evangelical idea that I was raised with that no sin is worse than another. If you've sinned even once, you might as well be as bad as Hitler. And in my upbringing, something as small as not thinking about God every waking moment was a sin.
2) I was the one who had killed before and buried my victims in that very place and somehow forgot about it.
Both options were horrifying to me but I left the body in the hole. By then I was too tired to give a shit anymore so I threw the last body in a dumpster. If I was caught, I was caught, I didn't even care anymore. Or at least that's what I thought.
The body was found in the dumpster the next day and I was brought in for questioning. For some reason, they only questioned me as a possible witness, I was never a suspect. I lied and they let me go. From there, I followed the story on the news. A suspect was arrested and my guilt for murder turned to guilt for ruining an innocent person's life. I grappled with whether I should turn myself in to save the innocent man but I never did.
My emotions numbed over time and the details of what I had done faded. It felt indistinct, like waking from a dream. As I followed the case in the news, I wondered to myself how someone could do something so evil. When the man was convicted for murder, the last thing I remember thinking before I woke up, as I watched him lead off to prison, was how good it was that justice was done and the murderer got what he deserved. Until I woke up, I had completely forgotten that I was the real murderer. The implication being that the cycle would start again.
I can't think of this dream now without being reminded of the way I thought while I was a Christian and feel bad for my past self.
W O W !
Insane
Honestly that reminds me a lot of Animal Farm and how at the end of the book the pigs become humans implying a cyclical nature to the oppression of the system.
@@geekygecko1849 I don't put any stock in dream meanings or the idea that your subconscious is trying to tell you something, I think they're more of an indication of what is influencing your brain. I think the "point" of the dream, or what its influence was, is that I'm an evil bitch even if I don't realize it. Which is the entire concept of original sin. Even just the fact that when the dream starts, all I know is that I've killed some strangers. I don't know why, how, or even exactly when. It just makes me think of the Christian idea that we all killed Jesus, even though none of us were alive at the time. I also remember being told from a very young age that we sin every day even if we don't realize it. Even if we think we went the entire day without sinning, we did without realizing or remembering it. It could have been something as simple as not thinking about God enough, accidentally hurting someone's feelings, "vicarious sexual immorality," feeling anxious, a flash of pridefulness, etc. And all of those things are as bad as murder because all sin is equal.
I grew up feeling guilty because I didn't think I felt guilty enough. I grew up feeling shame if I got to the end of the day and couldn't think of a single bad thing I had done because it was impossible to go that long without doing something wrong, so I must have done it without realizing or forgot.
The crazy thing is that I connected all of these concepts to this dream even at the time. These aren't just new things I'm noticing now that I'm looking back on it as an atheist. The difference is that now I realize that's super toxic and I probably needed therapy, but at the time I thought it was a good thing and helped teach me how to view my sin.
In bdsm culture there is a concept of sub space - something that people are able to reach in during deep submission, to completely let go of everything, to completely rely on another individual to control you, to use you as they see fit, to take care of you. Many describe this experience as "out of body" or "euphoric", it definitely affects your brain chemistry. And every once in a while, it just strikes me that the way these people talk about these beliefs is similar to how a sub might feel about a dom in that moment.... makes me wonder how much happier many of them would be if they had someone who they could tell "punish me, daddy" on the regular rather than trying to force it by making one up, and forcing everyone else into their scene.
The difference is that with BDSM, it’s just a game.
With religion, it’s not.
That just sounds like being a small child. And it's not euphoric, it's damaging.
Classic. Long way of saying "christcuck" anon
BDSM is a gross fetish
@@cerberaodollamit's euphoric until it becomes constant in your mind and you genuinely believe it.
By pathologizing all human behavior as 'sin', everybody is guilty, no matter what they do 🤨
It’s not meant to label all human behavior as inherently sinful but rather as a deliberate choice to go against God’s law and love, leading to damage in relationships. It’s to recognize harmful actions and work towards a better loving relationship with God and other people the church promotes a holistic understanding of humans as both fallen and capable of redemption and encourages lives of integrity, love and service
@@Catholictomherbertcap
Okay. Then what am I in the religion if I say "No"?
Why am I "fallen" or "Broken" as you put it? What do I need to be "redeemed" for?
Did I do something, or am I just "inherently sinful"?@@Catholictomherbert
@@patchwurk6652 all you need to do now right now is not eat in excessive or overindulge manner. So here are 3 foods: steamed fish and vegetables (broccoli carrots or bok choy , stir fried tofu with colorful vegetables and brown rice, grilled chicken with avocado.
Uhhhh....Okay?
What did that have to do with anything stated previously?
...Also did you just call me fat?@@Catholictomherbert
Original sin was one of the things in my childhood that contributed in part to my C-PTSD.
It's extremely damaging to a child when you constantly tell them they're a bad person just for being born and that they'll burn in hell for eternity if they die "impure" with sin and don't ask for forgiveness for something they didn't even do. It taught me that not being perfect automatically makes me a bad person. It taught me to always be "scared for my soul", so to speak. I resent religion for many reasons including this one.
I'm currently in therapy trying to undo all the damage from the trauma.
Could you imagine what would happen if those pastors would use that creative energy and write stage plays or fan fictions?
Heavens no. Did you see Christian bands and movies? They're a messy bore
Hope you mean after ditching their current book on a pedestal stance... Otherwise, that will absorb all their energy, so if you want it going somewhere else you need to do away with the black hole first.
People defending og sin always end up sounding like they hate themselves; it's such a self-harming view of yourself, and is no different from someone groveling before a tyrant, saying something like "I am but filth before your radiance" to stay on the person's good side lol.
Yep. It's what we all had to do in order to keep our parents from starving us.
*Nervous laughter* I can think of several songs that echo that grovelling quote. "Begger," "broken thing," "nothing good in me." I don't doubt that church contributed to my depression.
Nothing better than a lie so close to the truth. How can one know if they're strong? Until they face life's trials and sufferings, no one will know.
Yeah it feels like a nihilistic world view and it seems quite common
It simply AMAZES me how many people fail to grasp the fact that humans have always expressed themselves in abstract terms, anyone from people who take religious texts literally, to flat earthers and the ancient alien folks.
From burial rituals, cave paintings/carvings, Mythology, Art, etc, humans of 100,000, 50,000, 5,000, 500 years ago were the same as we are now, just living in a different world (and areas of the world) and different ways to make sense of it all.
My dad has this thing he does where he prays and prays and convinces himself that God wants him to do what he already wanted to do. He will never, ever admit this but there's no doubt about it. One big factor of my upbringing is that he kept being offered new pulpits to preach in, which required a move. HE TOOK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. He kept claiming he prayed and that God told him to take the new position and uproot his family again and again and again. It was NEVER God's will, apparently, that he allow his kids to feel like they had a home or a community.
This was my pastor father. It was also God's will to abuse us and have affairs.
God is very convenient for those who pray. He always is agreeable with them.
Your poor dad doesn't understand what confirmation bias is..as don't most humans.
It would be nice, one day, to have all people take responsibility, and self agency, and work to make this a better place. Because there is no magic.
My Dad did the opposite - claimed that God wanted him to stay at our church, even after I got SAed there and left, my siblings left and my Mom left. Still don't understand why he thought God wanted him in a church that so obviously hurt his entire family
I am in the beginning stages of planning to do research (and maybe report) on the link between evangelical christian upbringing and OCD/OCPD! So I really love and deep dive into videos on topics like this. Some other ones that I believe were profoundly impactful and which I plan to be a part of my research include the Age of Accountability + Natural Revelation. I appreciate the work you do!!
I'm a young adult, grew up in the Church. Let me tell you I still apologize for things I cannot help and cannot control, and I still feel guilty when things go wrong because the church taught me that everything I did was wrong and my fault and that I was just evil for being human. Deconstructing has been so hard but I am doing my darnedest to sort myself out and stop apologizing because it is OK to be human and make mistakes. It's okay to be yourself whoever might be reading this, you are not evil for just existing. You are human, and we are all gonna be OK.
How to Sin:
Be born
"You have been alive for ten seconds and you are now under arrest for 10 counts of DUI and one count of manslaughter behind a Denny's in 1997. Sins of the father, you see..."
Correction, one zeptosecond /lh
@@MystFox1314 Correction, an instant (no amount of time) /slh (similarly light hearted)
Being born in sin doesn't mean we're guilty of sin as soon as we're born, that wouldn't made sense, it means we're born with a sinful nature that makes us choose sin over not winning, which is why we have to be born of the spirit so we can limit sin
@@kugelblitz81 and who created man's nature?
Hallelujah!! I am so psyched I found your channel!!!! You are amazing at explaining all the hypocrisy. I’ve never trusted religion of any kind, but it’s EVERY WHERE! Hugs and kisses to YOU my friend. ❤
Watching while listenting to Deadpool Music!!! I'm Deadpool. Deadpool. Deadpool. Every time the preacher talks!!!!
Yeah! This channel is great. A unique style incorporating media clips. Very high quality. If you don't want to be the kind of person who only listens to a single source, you might also like Kristi Burke's channel which has similar content to this one. Apaulogia and Genetically Modified Skeptic are all good sources too. I would say they are in the same vein, but less simular to this than Kristi Burke. Probably other good sources that deal exclusively with Christianity I'm unaware of.
Cosmic Skeptic deals with Christianity very often, but not as exclusively as the other sources I've mentioned.
Religion for Breakfast has a degree in religion of some kind and is a wonderful source of information. Learning about the history of the Bible from him and others (e.g. Bart Erhman, Francesca Stavrakopoulou, and Data Over Dogma) has all helped me move past any lingering doubts over the accuracy of the Bible.
Yeah, I spend a lot of my free time on this stuff in addition to astronomy and gaming. 😄
Remember: you are damned to suffer for all eternity because a pair of naked people ate a piece of fruit...
Just let my naked self and my punnet of strawberries enjoy our evening in peace! The fruit eating I do in my home is not the business of a voyeuristic sky man, his son, and a ghost who are both also him.
And you are you are supposed to take Christ into your heart because of WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO TO YOU if you don't let him in.
Also why God had to sacrifice himself or son or connection to Godhead w.e. so fucking confusing. Guess need holy spirit 😅🤪
@@nomobobby What a loving thing to say.
Some say the bible isn't always literal right?....and the two naked people made for each other feasting on the "forbidden fruit" in paradise, well how do we know for sure that this isn't meant to be a euphanism ?
"You want to center your life on you." damn right, I'm the one living it, suffering the consequences, taking the accountability, and creating the successes.
what do they try to prove with that? Prayer or not, you still have to do things yourself. It's just sparing your own time, if anything.
I watched the korean show "Hellbound" and what I loved (SPOILER)
was that a religion formed around the concept that people get a message that they will go to hell in a certain time frame and they said that everyone who has that happen to them is a sinner. Worldwide people joined the religion and many many people on the regular get dragged to hell. But then the message appears to a newborn baby, who literally can't have committed a sin and so the leaders of the religion talked about it in a meeting and one of them asked if they would introduce the concept of original sin, which was quickly repelled by the others.
There's nowhere does it say that serpent was Satan. It just says the serpent had legs, and it was unusually intelligent.
It literally says that the serpent was the cleverest of "all the creatures" of the garden...doesn't sound like an angel to me. And if it was Satan, then why isn't he crawling everywhere on his belly, as God's curse demands?
In some traditions Satan is viewed as another type of human species or neanderthal.
If that serpent was Anthony J. Crowley, it didn't just have legs, it had legs for _days!_
This is taken from the Sumerian texts and Enki, friend of humans, is represented by a serpent. Enlil his brother was the owner of the Garden and used people as slaves. Enlil hated humans and later didn't save them during the flood. Enki warned Noah and saved people. Abraham came from Ur in Sumeria and obviously rewrote the texts for the Bible.
It is said... in the New Testament, long after that misidentification had been made. But since Christians don't understand that the Bible is a collection of different stories by different authors with different intentions, the idea that whoever invented the Genesis story most definitely DID NOT think the serpent was Satan is irrelevant, because he totally was because some random other guy centuries later associated the two.
All of Christianity is just "God did it, but you take the blame"
I’m glad my Christian upbringing wasn’t this extreme. This is so dumb I’m actually angry.
Actually now that I think about it, maybe it was, because it’s only been in the last few years that I’m realizing that I’m nowhere near as bad as I’ve ever thought I was.
When I was able to look at the beliefs I followed as a christian, objectively, it was kinda embarrassing...
@blu3622
I get so embarrassed and angry about it sometimes. All that wasted time and suppressing critical thinking because, well, we can’t let our fallen mind carry us away from god.
@michaelmartin5177 "that's just satan trying to turn you away from god" 🙄
@@blu3622 I laughed when I read that. Yes. that's another one.
12:53 I’ve been living this for a while but until you posted this video I didn’t realize how much I needed to hear someone say it out loud. Thank you!!!
i recently read a really good book that this video sooo much reminded me of.. it's called "Human Kind" by Rutger Bregman. He is a Dutch historian who was raised christian, but lost his faith when he started realizing that humans are actually NOT sinful by nature, but we're actually pretty loving and caring toward each other and have been that way for a loooong time. I would highly recommend it for anyone who wants to read a bit about the beautiful, hopeful side of humanity.
also i'm a canadian millennial so i have to say this.... LIKE A MUFFIN OR A BEET
The truly unfunny pastor complaining about children boils my blood. My son died before he was born, days before his due date. I never got to hear his "evil" cries, but I'd give anything to.
❤I'm so sorry for your loss
@@presentfuture7563 Thank you 💙
I just want to say thanks for doing these videos. They are so therapeutic for me. You're doing important work.
29:51 Savage point. Literally just encouraging certain symptoms of depression. Feeling incapable of change. Former christian, and I never really noticed that.
Do people ever consider that assuming humanity is evil (aka sinful) creates more evil?
Maybe assume people are good, and you'll get more good people.
Very good point. Carl Roger wrote about it "unconditional positive regard" as a way to approach his client in clinical setting. The problem is humanity is capable of both good AND evil. The viewpoint of human is inherently good in nature can cause damage when he/she facing the malevolence in real life. Jordan Peterson wrote in his book about one of his client with this viewpoint. He was raised in a bubble where his parents instill a belief that human are like angel, incapable of doing evil. When the relationship broke up, he was confronted by his significant other. Seeing that his SO was capable of inflict pain and suffering almost to the point of murder, it broke his psyche and wasn't able to sleep at night without nightmare.
@@ianbuick8946 so then, neither of those two extremes will work as intended. Guess we better come up with a more realistic viewpoint, something like "people start as clean slates and then collect experiences and react to them, and thus they are _capable_ of either good or evil, depending on circumstances." Every action has been motivated by something, and to just consider the outcome without the causes is to be willingly blinded to reality.
@@irrelevant_noob There is a concept call *the age of accountability* where children at some age will understand good and evil. But all in all there isn't anyone can avoid of doing evil. And indeed we live in constantly of two mode of being: reactive and proactive. Reactive mode is the "an eyes for an eyes" and proactive is "turn the other cheek". Reactive mode is victim mindset, instant gratification and vengeance; proactive mode is gratitude, self-control and forgiveness. Reactive mode is the selfish desire, proactive mode places the value on principles. And when people align all the laws and principles of the reality they will understand there is a divine power behind.
@@ianbuick8946 meh, that concept (*called age of accountability) is merely theological, it doesn't seem to have any link to the reality we currently experience. Also proactive is not at all turn the other cheek, the latter is forgiveness after an event already produced effects, while the former is a stance or preparatory action *_BEFORE_* an expected future event. How do you even manage to lump instant gratification with the other reactive examples is quite baffling, tbh...Hah, and you finish with the wondrous "a divine power behind" -- on just a trust me bro basis. GG. 🙄
@@irrelevant_noob"No tree can reach to heaven unless its root reach down to hell" Carl Jung. It's a journey to find the mode of Being, who said everyone will find the answer? Frankly, i expect nothing less from an *honest* seeker would likely to find his/her own answer rather than just a "trust me, bro". Are you a millennial as well? We invented GG back in the days but some kids nowadays think it some sort ultimate mic drop moment for logical argument.. But if you would like to stop the discussion, we can leave it as that.
I always watch your videos from beginning to end. I love your commentary. You hit on so many points where I'm basically screaming "Yes! Yes! Yes!!"
We must have very similar thought processes
These folks expend an awful lot of wind to basically tell everyone "I have no clue about child development, trauma or basic psychology."
Your videos are simply amazing. This is a 45 minute UA-cam video. That takes a really long time to put together. Well done my friend.
Could not agree more!!!
Dude as a fellow 40ish year old I have to say I'm ashamed of how much I love your boomer memes. You have them down to an art they're so perfect and I lol at every single one of them 😂
12:00 In figure, attire, and vocal cadence, this man is truly the Collin Robinson of pastors
@beliefitornot I would LOVE to see a discussion about “”intelligent design”” but pointing out all the stupid flaws our bodies have >>> that one scene from The Good Place where Michael goes “oh I’m a human!! My breathing tube is next to my eating tube and all my limbs end in stupid little sticks!”
First of all, your channel is so full of hope and peace and you've been absolutely crucial in my deconstruction going well.
I just wanna say I grew up Catholic and I am still ABSOLUTELY REELING at the fact that there are REAL!!! PEOPLE!!! On this EARTH!!!! That think CREATIONISM!!!! Is RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The flat earthers I can just wave away because many of them believe outlandish conspiracies that have always sounded foreign to me but hearing people with similar beliefs that I was surrounded with growing up think SIX THOUSAND YEARS ago is when all this started...... gawd. It really sunk in when I found your channel and Fundie Fridays about two years ago. What the hell.
The idea that babies are sinful is such a stupid take in every way possible. I never asked to be in this world ,but my parents brought me into this world why would it be my fault that I was born. My parents are on this side and I know a lot of people who spew crap like this all of the time any time if I or any one of my friends ask for help for any reason or have different opinions we have to suddenly take care of ourselves and you can not argue back because then that is a sin.
As a child I never really got the idea that the stories in the old book were fact, I saw them as lessons and I didn't ever quite get the point, thinking back on it I understand now how so many people in my life had zero sense of self worth yet never did much for the next guy, merely finding things to call them sinners about. I'm thankful every day that my siblings and I "woke up" when we did, even in my 20's I struggle with who I am, but your work helps guiding me in ways I would have never gone before.
15:35 Translation: "You came with natural desires that were aginst the Church's draconian doctrine."
I get it now. The fruit of the knowledge of good and evil is what we’re always seeking. God, aka the church, doesn’t want us to learn and to know. It just wants to control us through fear and self-loathing. “Don’t eat the fruit”, says ‘God’. “Don’t do your research”, says the church. If you do, your illusion of God and the church will crumble into nothing.
Secular Buddhist here
That makes more sense now
Guess the Gnostics had a point.
This feels like the synopsis of a plot point in an rpg where you end up killing god.
I'm naked and eating macaroni and cheese. Thank you, Jesus.
No thank cheesus.
@@Gringo7213 Cheeses Crust is worthy of worship. At least it isn't trying to make anyone feel guilty beyond the fact it's an indulgent comfort food that may not go down well for lactose/gluten intolerant people.
@@Gringo7213he's that cheetah one, right?
@@lilpetz500as is the flying spaghetti monster
@@JoeSmith-cy9wj Ra-men!
Before that overstuffed Voddie character appeared for the second time (after telling everyone what a horrible person he, um, used to be), I was wondering how anybody could possibly look into the eyes of a baby and see evil, but then he shows up and calls his daughter a "viper in a diaper" to laughter from the pews. What a thoroughly despicable view of things these people have.
I like the way the Jews view the eden story better. That we all are capable of good and bad, and we can choose (free will) one or the other, and that striving to do good is not only possible for us but also equally as natural for us as giving up and doing bad is.
I have been enjoying your videos, internet atheism (or at least questioning the Christian status-quo) took a really dark turn last decade, overshadowowed by men's rights activists who pretty much all turned to gamer gaters, so it's wonderful to see thoughtful people doing it again! Your empathy for those who are still part of a toxic church is evident and lovely, you don't insult or talk down to them. The clips of sermons are something I've never seen before either.
Yeah it's really nice and refreshing. Elevatorgate was insane.
you give them too many niceties by calling them gamer gaters, and not the bigoted, misogynistic, terrible people they became, short handing and bullying people expressing their right to living good lives.
i love this series !!! you really help flesh out questions ive had rolling around in my head forever ESPECIALLY the idea that we’re all equal in sin just to guilt trip you into believing
up until ~2 years ago i was christian and the damage, the amount of shame i felt (and still continue to feel but its getting a bit better) for just existing is horrifying. ever since i was little i internalized this idea that im not a good person. being a kid going through puberty and having your self-talk immediately go to how flawed you are because thats one thing that youve been taught since forever to be true is so dangerous. it is so disgusting to tell a kid how fucked up they are because... they were born? how is this allowed? how is it ok in their minds to tell a kid that they are awful and that nothing they can do can change the fact that they are a horrible person?
this mindset is especially dangerous for people suffering with mental illness. when i became depressed my mind defaulted to negative self-talk because that was all i was taught. all that was running through my head was "i am a horrible person" and "i dont deserve anything good" because depression sucks and i didnt know any other way to think. i became so severely suicidal because i felt so ashamed about everything. i felt shameful for struggling with my mental health. i felt shameful for needing help. i felt shameful for talking to my friends. i felt shameful for taking care of myself. i didnt think i deserved anything good because of years of conditioning telling me that id never be good enough and everything given to me is nothing i actually deserved.
(sorry for writing so much but it pisses me off *so much* that people think its ok to tell others that they are inherently evil)
Because the church is nothing but a club for power hungry abusers. It matters not to them whether it's physical or psychological, as long as you pay and obey. If there is indeed evil, it is anchored in this institution.
Can relate a lot, shit is awful and I will never willingly put any family in that sort of environment. Sending hugs 🫂
"babies are evil"
Christians: "YEEEAHHHHHHH"
But somehow they want to force their births anyway... 🤪
As the son of a Late, professional con man (yes seriously), & a reformed con artist myself, beginning @25:15 so succinctly verbalized @Belief It O Not.
Well done.
I wasn't raised a believer and have pretty much always been an atheist, so I didn't know the minutia of religious doctrine growing up. I only really learned about the concept of original sin when studying Paradise Lost. Spoilers - hate that book so fucking much it's one of the worst things I've ever read. But what occurred to me is - Adam and Eve were, effectively, robots. They had no free will, no concept of right or wrong, no critical thinking, no real ability to understand the world around them. They just existed to sorta... wander around in Eden, presumably for God's benefit. As such when he says "don't eat the apple" they can't question or understand why, they just say "Okay!" and do it. And then something else comes along, the snake, and says "Do eat the apple", and they can't question or understand why, so they just say "Okay!" and do it. And at that point - they become sentient and self aware and can actually process the world around them... and this pisses god RIGHT the fuck off. And this is the original sin.
But the thing about it is - Original Sin can't be something they're punished for because in the state they were in when God made them, they had no free will. They didn't have the ability to think for themselves. Eve didn't choose to eat the apple, not because she was tricked or coerced, but because she literally did not know what *choice* was. But the entirety of humanity is guilty and evil, forever, according to god, because of this. Humanity is a total write off that deserves eternal punishment.
But the worst part is this colors all of Christian Religious Doctrine. By this standard, the natural state of humanity is to be essentially a servile, semi-vegetative bunch of automatons who do nothing other than what god tells them to do. That is the aspirational goal for a good Christian, that is what Christians punish themselves for not being and attack everyone else for not WANTING to be. The end goal of Christian faith is for no one, anywhere, to think for themselves in any capacity, which means there can be no goodness in the world - but that's fine, because the only goodness in the world should be what comes from God anyway. It's demented.
A lot of passages in Paradise Lost make it pretty clear Milton takes the side of Lucifer and the rebel angels.
@@diarmuidkuhle8181 No, he super doesn't. I thought that the first time I read it but if you read the entire book the conclusion is very much "Never question god, god is always right, god is infallible" after demonstrating pretty categorically that god sucks shit.
I can't believe that I used to believe this stuff. And no wonder I have struggled with feeling worthless for most of my life .
Watching these sermons and then listening to your talking points reminds me of back when my mother forced (and I mean FORCED) me to attend those nightly church classes/meetings they put you in from like 6th-10th grade. For context: my mother and my stepfather are both pastors, and my dad was a church music director. During a fight she yelled about how seeing me go through the Affirmation of Baptism ceremony was HER reward for dragging me to church, sunday school, Bible school, etc...
A major component was taking "sermon notes" and then write a 2-3 page analysis each week. I credit those years with teaching me how spew a bunch of absolute bull spit with a straight face. The few times I made the mistake of challenging the sermon or asking questions a couple times and let's just say it didn't go over very well.
Anyway, I wonder if the same experience is how all these conservatives can weave BS "boogey man" narratives and be so convincing to their peers.
I began outpatient counseling following treatment for opiate addiction in 2015. My counselor was extremely evangelical and pentecostal. Although it wasn't a christian rehab program, she put my attendance to a weekly women's bible study into my mandatory plan. The first "study" was just ranting about the threat to "biblical marriage" from gay marriage being legal. I asked if they were referring to the concubines within many biblical marriages?
Crickets 🦟🦟
@@blu3622 Funny you should mention that... because I had a similar experience. I don't know how familiar you are with The Hazelden Foundation (now merged with Betty Ford) but I spent almost 6 months at their main campus for opiate addiction as well. For such a big campus with their sort of reputation, it's location is pretty rural. (Borders on middle of nowhere MN) 😅
Anyway, there were only two choices for church services and I ended up in the really fundie Pentacostal group... and the services were 2 hours long. And the sermons were either horrifying or so boring that I got accused of using again because I would constantly nod off.
@@blu3622making you do that sounds like an infringement of your religious rights
@@Wyrm3 I'm sure it broke all sorts of rules, especially since I had paid for my treatment out of pocket being uninsured. It wasn't funded by any religious organizations or anything like that, but at the time I just chose the past of least resistance.
i grew up in the mormon church and the 2nd article of faith (a list of the fundamental belief) says “We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression” and i never understood why that was there bc i didn’t know that other churches believed that
Well that's a much better approach.
@@aliceputt3133 definitely, i’m no longer mormon but i think it’s a decent religion. i don’t agree with some of their beliefs like not drinking coffee, but i’m glad i didn’t have to worry about being guilty for some very dead guy’s mistake
@@lexbrightraven8049 i totally agree, it depends on where you are and the other people attending. most of the churches i’ve been to were filled with very nice people but churches in utah suck
Man, it’s crazy having been in a Jesuit school until college. Our flavor or original sin was sentience. It was this idea that the physical and emotional pain of being alive, and the self awareness of it comes from a level of knowledge. God felt bad and sent Jesus to eventually give people an answer and something to look forward to. If Christianity has stayed like that I might have stayed involved, but even 30 years ago most of the community was getting unbearable.
That’s a theology I can gel with to an extent
It's gross. Their spaul-ing all over the place.. Heavenly Father told Good People "Adam and Eve," not to do one thing that will hurt them; one thing that would kill them.. They got tricked. They sinned; yet they received mercy; Father didn't kill them. He didn't send them directly to hell... The First Response of Heavenly Father toward us was Mercy... Today we have HIS Commandments and Messiah is our Perfect example... We don't have to sin.
Almost 2,000 years since Messiah arose from the dead.
The saints are worn out by the beast (the roman cannon/spaul; )for a time.
All sin is not equal... pagan rome put those lies in "the bible".
The Truth is available Today..
We don't have to obey the devil worshipping s-paul/romans...
We can be like Messiah and do what Father told us to do...
This "content creator" has his own reasons for his sin/lies/degradation.
He shouldn't try to Judge Heavenly Father.
We are victims of a roman hijacking of Our Messiahs' Message..
That's why the Churches look more like a circus than synagogues.
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Spaul was a psycho!!!
He killed many Christians, he never showed any remorse, compassion, nor empathy.
No justice. He never even made a stinking apology.
He never took a collection for the victims families he killed.
Not because he was too shy to ask for money, he demanded a tithe from the poor..
He cursed The Angels of Heaven, You, me and every Christian that ever taught from Matthew, Mark, Luke or John…
Spaul says in Galatians 1;8 “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”
Which of the commandments did spaul free you from?
You shall not covert your neighbors ...
You shall not kill? You shall not steal? Don’t lay with a menstruating Wife?
No, but he picked no circumcision.
He sounds like a smegma fan.
Oh, and spaul said he is free from every law; so you can’t blame him for sht.
Messiah is circumcised.
Will you face Him with your smeg stanking in the breeze, standing before Him?
Will you say, “spaul said circumcision is a curse..?”
We're Saved by The Blood of Messiah!!! not spauls gospel.
How silly is the sissy spaul?
A bragging roman/pharisee; killer of innocent Christians?
According to The Law, spaul would have been put to death for murdering the innocent...
Who was this miserable punk to tell Women to keep silent?
What about Mary Madeline?
What about Messiahs' mother, should they be silenced?
Woman can’t speak in Church?
I thought he said, they are not under The Law?
According to spaul, disagreeing with his gospel is damnation…
Everything else was cool though?
Messiah never said that junk.
Come on People! A change like that, He would have fore told us about.
spaul calls himself a roman and a pharisee; yet he never repented on their behalf, for Killing Messiah. spaul said there is no male nor female in Christ.
More gender confusion.
Freed from the law of being a closet cornholer?
Like the roman priests?
How pompous it is for scholars to think, that Jews didn't know how to read and write?
True Hebrews have no idles, YHVH is found in His Word.
What kind of disciple doesn't take notes?
Mary had to have written part of The Testament of Messiah.
There IS Only One Hebrew Testament of Messiah, later translated and named "Matthew".
It was originally written in Hebrew, by
1. Mary
2. the disciples
3. Written or dictated by Messiah HimSelf!
Some events were only witnessed by them/Him.
Examples:
1. Mary - An Angel spoke to Joseph, Messiahs Birth, Wise Men Worshiping, Messiah and His Childhood travels.
2. The Disciples: The Transfiguration, only Messiah, Peter, James and John was there.
3. Messiah Only: the devils 3 Temptations
3.a. Messiah praying while the disciples slept.
Matthew" is the 40th Inspired Hebrew Book in The Bible.
The Last Inspired Book in The Bible...
Daniel 7 says that the beast (rome) would wear the saints. Did this happen?
Yes. By killing our Messiah, the disciples; and then deceiving believers for almost2,000 years? Sometimes the simplest explanation is True.
The Hebrews wrote in Hebrew, the romans wrote in greek.
Hebrews were inspired By Heavenly Father,
romans were inspired by demons.
The Covenant Father made with man is with Abrahams' seed,
rome makes covenant hell...
The Holy City is Jerusalem,
rome is a den of snakes...
Children of Messiah are Jews, Messiah is a Jew...
sons of rome are pagans...
The so-called modern scholars, like to say Mark was written first. Because it is the least flattering. Under this assumption the least accurate or degraded document would be called first/original.
No; Mark was written by a roman stooge, tranzlater, copying from “Matthew” in roman;
to corrupt and destroy the message of Messiah?
Matthew and Luke are a contradiction...
Beginning with the genealogies.
Matthew said the woman held Him by the feet and worshipped Him. Luke says that Jesus said, don't touch me for I have not yet ascended to My Father.
Spaul contradicts all The 40 Hebrew Inspired Books including “Matthew”.
The Old Testament so called "contradictions" or copy errors are few and can be easily explained with proper translation.
In the greek/roman/ "New Testament", there are many irreconcilable differences.
Because only “Matthew” was originally written in Hebrew. Anomalously/untitled.
It is “The Testament of Messiah,” the last Inspired book.
(example - Hebrew Matthew Shem Tov)
The roman/greek books that fallow are roman lies, propaganda and contradictions.
Wake up brothers and sisters!
Heavenly Father didn't start speaking greek after they killed His Only Begotten Son.
What do you think pilot did when the soldiers told him that the disciples stole Messiahs’ body?
The pharisees and Rome had 2,000 years to clean up the records;
it's still filthy…
more filthy..
While nero was burning Christian Children as torches, to light his pagan garden parties.
spaul praises rome, worshiping in greek with blasphemy and lies.
spaul says in
Romans 1: 8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. (This is a lie.)
9 For God is my witness, whom I serve [b]with my spirit in the gospel of His Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers.. (This is a lie.)
Where was the plan to get the Christian Children out of rome?
spaul was not interested in that.
Rome is the beast of Daniel 7 that wears out the saints for a season. (with the roman cannon)
Times Up!!!
Jesus is coming soon.
Heavenly Father Bless You...
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I have learned so much from this series. You have helped me so much. I'm not as crazy as I thought I was. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!
Whee nothing like getting punished for eternity for something your "ancestors" did
Conservatives are all people being punished for things their ancestors did, till someone brings up maybe the families of slaves should be paid for the unpaid labor their ancestors put into building America, then all the sudden, it's unjust to remember wrongs for more than a generation ago.
No way Adam and Eve were white or any bs like that
@@falconeshieldyou know during the time Adam and Eve were painted, there weren't African Christians right ?
Original sin = hardwired shame
Agree. But then again, we are all capable of experiencing shame. The people who cannot feel shame out there are NOT people you want to be around. They would be diagnosed with a personality disorder. Shame is a guide to being moral.
What I don't like is the Catholic Church trying to control when and how people feel shame.
And guilt. "Your sins put Jesus on the cross, you owe him your life"
It is a really good question though: if you really beleive in original sin, how could you in good conscience have kids? Especially knowing there is a good chance they will be tortured eternally...
I couldn't. I became an antinatalist when that clicked in my head, and seeing YHWH command me to make children in spite of the evil of it smacked me in the face with the problem of evil.
I was taught as little kid by a sweet little Catholic nun that we were born evil sinners because of Adam and Eve. So sad. It took me decades to get out of religious thinking. Thank goodness I caught onto CRITICAL THINKING!
Thank God for critical thinking. That's not a command, I'm just saying it as an expression. I like to do my own religious critical thinking exercises. Out of curiosity, do you buy into the Clĭmatě Hŏăx?
People do some really awful atrocities, and they use religion to achieve that.
Throughout history there have been people and groups that committed terrible acts in the name of religion. However these actions do not represent the fundamental teachings of any religion including world religions, all man has worth and dignity and that violence or brutality is never acceptable regardless of religious belief. Religion should not be used to justify violence or injustice because it goes against the core values of faith the church wants to promote a peaceful and just world.
Yup. Parents too. They claim to be christian but behave like opposite. Don't get it. 😅
Way to go, maestro! I love how you put these videos together.This was an especially good one.The subject of original sin is one of the worse doctrines concocted by men.Thanks for another great video!
This was fantastic! I mean I always love your videos. This one really hit though! Loved it, love you! I can see how much effort it must take to put these together! Brilliant! I appreciate all the amazing work!
You always close by encouraging us to share with someone who may benefit and i always think that category includes everyone. I wish i could like your videos more than once. Thank you for the care and compassion and humor that you inject into your work.
im going to see my christian family after 5 years of not seeing them, and your videos are gonna keep me sane
“God only knows evil as something outside himself”. Hearing that from someone who I assume calls themselves “pastor” or ect, is such a great argument for seminary school. Like, as a Christian you’re supposed to be accepting Christ as your savior, but like wtf do they think that’s from? It’s literally the covenant to erase original sin. If you get baptized it’s supposed to wash it away. Have they never heard of the great flood, the rainbow, the song of the covenant that god won’t wipe humanity away? God clearly changes over time, changes his own behavior, judges his own behavior as wrong. Like how are they this ignorant of their own beliefs? Their own foundational beliefs? The very tenants of the the supposed covenants between them and god. Like… it almost feels like they don’t actually care. 🤦♂️
28:13 "All that tree was doing, was separating them from God even more!"
EXACTLY! So why did *God* put that tree in the garden to begin with? Who was _supposed_ to eat the fruit?