FL Studio Basics 48: Sidechain Organization (with example mix)
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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Everytime i start producing i usually go straight to the Seamless tutorials. Only problem with you is I end up spending all the time i set aside watching more tutorials and writing things down. On that note, maybe you could start a new type of videow here you have a posted video, a download link of the FLP. you are using, and create a interactive experience where we can treat it like more of a class, where we follow along with you. I know that would require alot of work from you and what not, but i think you have a great teaching personality and you could really profit off of something like that.
Thanks for the videos and knowledge.
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And how would you make if you wanna have more " triggers " than just
Kick, for example - I want my snares cut through bass as well ( and Im
usin 3 snares. I have some ideas that Im about to try, but would love to
get your opinion. To put more limiters on bass, and connect each
element to each limiter, or can I route all of the " triggers " to one
channel, and then from it sidechain to bass? If Im gonna with that 2nd
way, what to do with link of that " trigger " channel connection with
master? If you have any advice, would be appreciated. However, tnx for this one! (Y)
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Thank you for this. Been trying to figure out on my and failed
I absolutely do not recommend for anyone to use Fruity Peak Controller, it always lets a little part of the lead's beginning through before the sidechain kicks in which makes a tiny click sound. I recommend to use Fruity Limiter and if you want more options for editing the sidechain and it's lenght, use Gross Beat.
You can get rid of the click by turning the volume all the way to the left, base value 80% and using direct input, not inverted.
Hi Seamless, great video :) I only wanted to mention that you can also use Effector for sidechaining. I like it because it's easy and unlike Gross Beat it's free.
I like the down to earth and informative tutoring you do with those videos. Understanding the sound theories validates and helps better understanding of each feature. Really helpful and educating.
Thanks Seamless!
SeamlessR your videos are awesome. thank you so much for these awesome tutorial.
if you mention gross beat than you should also mention the love philter
Good point, as Gross Beat is a paid plugin and Love Philter comes with FL Studio.
thanks a lot..i think you got a Ph.D on sound designing...u deserve a lot more
Hey, that's neat. I'd never thought of routing a lead so it's sidechained and clean. Thanks, Seamless!
I'd also like to say that your kick sample was making me cringe. lol
I'm slowly understanding side-chaining better, nice one Seamless!
And you can use the Fruity Love Philter also.
U can use the EQ for sidechaining for better freq and more pumpy but you will have to draw auto mation clips
U know that browser where you pick the drums or sound fx and stuff? Well yours slides everything to the right but mine just goes over the sequencer or whatever is on the left and I can move it around please help me it's very annoying
when i try to route my tracks to the sichain track and then try to change the sidechain channel it shows i have none available but all my tracks are routed to sidechain channel..... whyyyyy
Im a bit of a noob so if someone could help me with this that would be great. My problem is that everytime i sidechain something in the beginning it works fine but then something happens and the kick only sidechains on the first beat. First i thought it had to do with the distortion i was using but then i realised i was doing something wrong with the limiter. I just dont know what.. thank you in advance for helping!
Anyone hearing a really quiet ringing noise throughout the video?
How did you create the type of synths you use in this tutorial?
Your tutorials are top notch! Many thanks.
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Good to watch the tutorials in the speed two times.
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FL10 uses different ways or am i now just feeling like i have taken 20 beers as used fl for 10 years and have no fucking idea what i am doing?
nevemind, just overlooked what part of the mixer track that was clicked rofl.... omg ....... think i need to change identity after that haha ;D
Ive also Sidechained using the Fruity Love Philter - it has some additional parameters that other sidechain tools dont have. You should look into that
I was going to suggest that, it basically does the same thing as gross beat (but it has different controls)
I was talking about when sidechaining. When used differently they are very drastically different plugins.
wow man you just teacht me how to do sidechaining with the limiter :D I was and I will be a huge fan of yours, BIG like!
You're awesome. I've watched all basic tutorials uptil now, so including the Harmor stuff. It's a bit time consuming, but so much more enlightening than plowing through the manuals. Thanks for doing this.
finally we 're talking about one of the most important process in mixing ....thx seamless
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2 important notes:
1) You must turn ahead to 0% on compressor if you want transient of the kick to trigger the sidechain, otherwise you won't get snappy kick because ahead on compressor behaves like if you increase attack.
2) In your example you routed lead to master to make lead less sidechained, but this is wrong because audio will be added when sidechain is on and off, so there is no difference in sidechain, lead will just become louder. Only way to do this is to lower the volume on mixer slider, because this affects sidechain level, and to add additional volume by directly routing to the master channel.
You're right about the second thing. The appropriate thing to do would have been to reduce the send volume into the "side" mixer insert so that the lead was evenly distributed. As you said, routing it into the mixer makes it "louder" when the sidechain isn't affecting it, but when it is affecting it, the level into the master effectively becomes the "base" level. The reason what I'm doing in the video isn't having as much of a negative impact in the mix is because of the amount of compression I'm using on the master. This could be good or bad depending on your mixing philosophy :) But, your solution is also correct.
On the first thing, you're mostly right but not in the way you said (you may have meant this anyway and I just didn't get that from your statement). The attack of the kick isn't applied as much on the compressor that's sidechaining, as you can see with the more rounded compressor curve. Which means the kick's attack is still competing with the mix. The thing is, though, if you actually did put the ahead at 0, you actually get some distortion. The "ahead" in the FL Limiter doesn't actually do what "look ahead" does on other compressors. It's actually a "windowing" amount. So, with no windowing, the compressor curve moves around according to the transients much, much faster, which can get distorty. The sort of distorty that was happening when I had a low attack amount.
You are, however, right about the transient problem in the mix. Again, this is a thing that I solve most of the time with unreasonable crushing compression. If you didn't want to do that, and transient timing was crucial to your plans, I would actually suggest not sidechaining by this method. But instead sidechaining by manual volume automation (automation clips, grossbeat, love philter as was mentioned alongside effector, are all versions of this alternative).
Seamless Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that your information is bad, and you suck, I am just checking my knowledge. :)
Sorry for not explaining well my note, I am not native English speaker.
BTW having att more than 0ms will fix distortion, but it will make phase problems if you want to apply your technic for fixing sidechain levels, but you can solve easily this with one patcher on sidechain mixer insert, where you will have one limiter for sidechain, and another for "delaying" audio that goes directly to the master, you just need to copy and paste same values to the both limiters. Also benefit for sidechaining with att on limiter tab ( with ahead 0% on comp tab ) is that audio is getting sidechained before kick hits by amount of att ms on limiter tab, so this could make kick even more punchy than normal sidechain.
I can make you a project file for example, if you don't understand me.. ;)
Is it possible to sidechain other things than the volume? For an example, could I sidechain a highpass with the kick?
Sure, but not using this method. To do that, you would use the Peak Controller. This way, you turn the peak input information from something like a kick drum into a controller. Then you can link whatever parameter you want to that controller. I have a tutorial on how to use the Peak Controller in my channel, just search "Peak Controller" :)
Okay, thanks!