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  • Co-founder and co-chair of the Commission on Presidential Debates Frank J. Fahrenkopf Jr. talks to Jon Stewart about founding the commission with the goal of representing voters from a nonpartisan perspective, how the media has affected debates over the years, and Trump and Biden’s decision to go around the commission for their upcoming presidential debates. #DailyShow #JonStewart #Election
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  • @maljamin
    @maljamin 24 дні тому +678

    We all know it, we knew it four years ago even. Jon Stewart needs to host the debates. It would change everything.

    • @danielvest9602
      @danielvest9602 24 дні тому +76

      He'd steal the show, probably get elected himself.

    • @lagomorph770
      @lagomorph770 24 дні тому +35

      @@danielvest9602 he'd be a better president, he actually cares about people's wellbeing.

    • @mxochimera
      @mxochimera 24 дні тому +43

      No political candidate in their right mind would ever agree to it, they'd be scared shitless of an actual unbiased intelligent person asking relevant in-depth questions. And therein lies the problem.

    • @arthurbrands6935
      @arthurbrands6935 24 дні тому +6

      @@danielvest9602 yaaay! "If nominated, I will not run! If elected, I will not serve!" What a slogan!

    • @wadestclair249
      @wadestclair249 23 дні тому +6

      A presidential debate is not supposed to be a sideshow. 🤦

  • @laprofessora64
    @laprofessora64 24 дні тому +548

    Stewart should be the debate moderator. He wouldn't let either side obfuscate.

    • @1st2nd2
      @1st2nd2 24 дні тому +30

      With a team able to fact-check and bring up counter evidence in real time.

    • @yuotueb
      @yuotueb 23 дні тому +12

      @@1st2nd2 Honestly, with Trump being in the position he is in, we're way past any hope that "fact checking" debate statements is the solution to improving democratic decision making. Nobody watching that debate would be in any way suprised or swayed by it. That's not the playing field Trump participates on, and not something his supporters can be reached with.

    • @theparadoxicaltouristtrave9320
      @theparadoxicaltouristtrave9320 23 дні тому +3

      I'm not sure that stewart can achieve this miracle.

    • @VoodooV1
      @VoodooV1 23 дні тому +6

      the right wing would never agree to it, even though Jon has roasted the left numerous times.

    • @1st2nd2
      @1st2nd2 23 дні тому +7

      @@yuotueb The supporters who can not be reached with fact-checking can not be reached with a debate. That would not be the purpose of it.
      Real-time fact-checking does, however, have the potential of reaching people who are on the fence, undecided voters.
      It would also serve as a deterrent to either party of spreading falsehoods. Barring the effectiveness of that, it would embarrass liars to their face, or at the very least be extremely entertaining to watch.

  • @ronnyshama
    @ronnyshama 24 дні тому +372

    Not only is the mute button important but there should be a little bar on the bottom with live fact checking during the debates

    • @bcoates87
      @bcoates87 23 дні тому

      @@sueyourself5413to hold them accountable.

    • @sixfigureskibum
      @sixfigureskibum 23 дні тому

      ​@@sueyourself5413I'm going fact check you there. One is a life long conman claiming to be a politician 😂 the other is a life long politician.
      One is a professional and the other is a malignate narccisist pathological liar professional rip off artist

    • @katieb1259
      @katieb1259 23 дні тому +16

      Game show buzzer goes off every time they lie - problem solved

    • @wendigo53
      @wendigo53 23 дні тому +5

      @@sueyourself5413 When did Biden ever tell a lie?

    • @sueyourself5413
      @sueyourself5413 23 дні тому

      @@wendigo53 When he committed an act of war and blew up the Nordstream pipeline.
      When he pretends to defend democracy while the DNC blocks all primary candidates and is doing its best to block 3rd party ones too.
      Then there's almost anytime he's spoken about his son.
      His education, his exam results, the majority of doddering old stories he mixes and makes up on the spot.
      He has a career of racism, dishonesty and evil, and you lot pretend he's some sort of saint. The man didn't just get into politics, you know?

  • @randalljames4456
    @randalljames4456 23 дні тому +50

    Frank is older than both Trump and Biden and he's more quick witted and lucid than either of them.

    • @Sataka23clips
      @Sataka23clips 17 днів тому

      Joe biden literally had a speech corrected more than 8 times last week . It was last week 😂😂. By the way trump went to libertarians got booed like a man why can't Biden go there .🎉😂😂😂

    • @fiskedunser6314
      @fiskedunser6314 6 днів тому

      @@Sataka23clips Mentioning the fact that Trump got overwhelmingly booed at a large convention really doesn't make of an as great pro-Trump comment as you think it does... 🤣🤣🤣

  • @philoctetes_wordsworth
    @philoctetes_wordsworth 24 дні тому +117

    No audience is best. Never, ever should there be an audience. Only press.

    • @trowawayacc
      @trowawayacc 23 дні тому +4

      Yes. Audience can watch live from outside. If they want to shout and fight each other do that outside.

    • @AlexanderAudition201
      @AlexanderAudition201 21 день тому

      An audience also edu area the public on just how low we have become in our sense of honor. Live audience adds electricity. Live audience helps keep the moment real, and risky.

    • @AlexanderAudition201
      @AlexanderAudition201 21 день тому

      lol. Educates*. Guess I’m going to the debate this year.

    • @cherynenglish6561
      @cherynenglish6561 20 днів тому

      Press is problematic too, if politicians speak for sound bites, instead of truth .

  • @JSDudeca
    @JSDudeca 24 дні тому +91

    The debates should NOT have audiences. I agree with the format of the currently planned debate.

  • @peterlarsen7779
    @peterlarsen7779 24 дні тому +215

    Interesting that the Commission introduced a mute button 4 years ago. I don't recall them having actually used it.... Let's hope they automatically activate it when each ones time is up.

    • @jolness1
      @jolness1 24 дні тому +20

      I think he meant after. They typically don’t make changes during the debate cycle but I think they probably should when it’s something like that.

    • @ShonnDaylee
      @ShonnDaylee 24 дні тому

      4 years ago was halfway through 2020. AFTER the debates, and most importantly, AFTER the presidential race had already been decided. They installed the mute functionality AFTER the election, no doubt in direct response to the chaotic mess that was Trumps involvement in the debates.

    • @katsong3302
      @katsong3302 24 дні тому +8

      tape delay with only actual truths to audio.

    • @MichaelStephen1
      @MichaelStephen1 24 дні тому

      Even if they're granted only the 7 seconds they barely deserve to blah

    • @Thunder-Chief
      @Thunder-Chief 23 дні тому +4

      ​@@katsong3302If they did that, all of Chump's responses would end up being only 3 words long.

  • @dirkgently31
    @dirkgently31 23 дні тому +23

    Put the two candidates in soundproof booths. Ask them the same questions simultaneously. Let them answer for 2 minutes with a 15 second warning. Segment 2: Have each candidate identify the 5 questions they would ask their opponent. Segment 3, have them answer the questions. Stitch together the content.

  • @davidromney4150
    @davidromney4150 24 дні тому +106

    When the timer goes off, so should the microphone. When it's not Trump's turn to speak, let his microphone be silenced.

    • @chezmoi42
      @chezmoi42 23 дні тому +12

      Better yet, separate them by a soundproof glass barrier, so one can't yell while the other candidate - or the moderator - is speaking.

    • @Silkz0jet
      @Silkz0jet 15 днів тому +1

      @@chezmoi42 Yes to both these ideas, after the shambles of the last Trump 'debate'.

  • @jvaski
    @jvaski 24 дні тому +66

    Jon is basically doing the Office Space "What would you say it is... you do here?" bit and this guy has nothing but a jump-to-conclusions mat.

    • @DI_IDER
      @DI_IDER 23 дні тому

      👌

    • @makerofnoise
      @makerofnoise 23 дні тому +2

      And he keeps interrupting Jon before he is done speaking. Grrr.

    • @LateNightwithStudBuyers
      @LateNightwithStudBuyers 23 дні тому +1

      I saw the same thing, except Fahrenkopf as the "people person," excited to unveil his mat that has a bunch of *conclusions* you can *jump* to!

  • @wanajday
    @wanajday 24 дні тому +217

    “It was non-partisan, not bi-partisan, NON-partisan”, he stresses, while explaining that the chair of the DNC and himself the chair of the RNC formed the commission. Edit: the previous debates were awful. Trump was able to talk over Biden, they didn’t cut his mic. I like Biden’s requests: no in-house crowds.

    • @vincentjohnflorio
      @vincentjohnflorio 24 дні тому +20

      Not only that but the polling percentages required to make it are based on polling handled by the party operatives, with the explanation being that they are the best-suited to accurately capture the pulse of their bases. Don't take my word for it; it's a plain, unprotected, casually searchable fact. Perot's success led them to restructure things to keep things manageable, so it is 100% 'bi' and not 'non.'

    • @GlutenEruption
      @GlutenEruption 23 дні тому

      @@vincentjohnflorio this point especially proves that the CPD was and is designed purely to serve the interests of the duoply establishment, not the people or the country.

    • @xyzzdoe3674
      @xyzzdoe3674 23 дні тому +13

      Yeah, and I don't think this man gave a great case for continuing with them.

    • @phelan_pt
      @phelan_pt 23 дні тому +11

      If he wanted to stress non-partisanship, then I think he definitely should have said that they're changing the rules to allow third party candidates.
      Otherwise he's just lying.

    • @kellythompson3865
      @kellythompson3865 22 дні тому +2

      Trump has never debated! You have to have knowledge of issues. He's the kid throwing a tantrum in kindergarten, it worked then. Trumps a grown man that craps his pants.

  • @Bear2man858
    @Bear2man858 22 дні тому +5

    Only having ONE microphone on at a time is a must.

  • @dee5tank
    @dee5tank 24 дні тому +109

    "You have this sort of system set up for tradition, but the media has changed so drastically. It's so polarized. It's so sensationalized. They're not looking to accomplish what may be what the commission is looking to accomplish and is that not what's at odds?" - Jon @ 4:55. Why does this feel like Jon's point on Crossfire 20ish years ago, all over again? 😂😂

    • @dshepherd107
      @dshepherd107 24 дні тому +10

      Bc it is. You’re right. I too remember Crossfire.

    • @vituperation
      @vituperation 16 днів тому

      He may have killed Crossfire, but he can't reshape the media landscape. The money is there and as long as it is, this chaotic vitriol will be the way it stays. Jon can't stop it. We can't stop it. If you look at the comments even here on this channel, it shows even those aware of this terrible dynamic still choose to be a part of it.

  • @EmilyHans-es9nj
    @EmilyHans-es9nj 24 дні тому +82

    I shout at the debate every time why don’t they put a mute button on him? If he wasn’t stopping I don’t know why they haven’t used it.

    • @TheFireGiver
      @TheFireGiver 23 дні тому +6

      Ya he claims how much they changed, but if that did happen I've never noticed it. No audience, a mute button, longer answers

    • @philinspain65
      @philinspain65 23 дні тому

      Echo that.

    • @elainehewitt6813
      @elainehewitt6813 23 дні тому +2

      Just like never putting him in jail, it's unprecedented.

    • @rustyoak8860
      @rustyoak8860 22 дні тому +1

      money, it's all about money. If they mute Trump, they would lose a chunk of his supporters that only watch to see him be a bully and call people names. So, they let Trump be Trump, not mute him, so they keep the ratings up.

  • @vroitwyrd
    @vroitwyrd 24 дні тому +100

    Modern debates are little more than reality tv soundbite generators.

    • @sixfigureskibum
      @sixfigureskibum 23 дні тому +2

      You mean /maga era not modern. Actual debates are not shouting matches or ad homenin rants. Trump et all "argue" but "debate" is not at all what happens when they use that term for thier actual reality TV fiasco show

    • @VoodooV1
      @VoodooV1 23 дні тому +6

      @@sixfigureskibum nah, this phenomenon has existed before MAGA was a thing. It's a travesty to even call them debates. Americans wouldn't know real debate if they saw it, they'd think it was too boring. not enough name calling or gotcha moments.

    • @dracodraco1982
      @dracodraco1982 23 дні тому +2

      Ever since the League of Women Voters stopped being the host, they became little more than dueling press conferences. No one answers the questions as asked, and it's seldom addressed in any way whatsoever. Half the point, now, seems to be a game to see who has the best zingers and burns. Moderators are rarely especially well informed or active. And the format is kind of absurd. It's like how they gave Bernie Sanders all of a 1 minute response to solve health care /and/ how to pay for it. How can you discuss intractable problems, their complex solutions, and the funding methods to apply the proposed solution in all of a minute or two? Military spending, same problem; foreign policy? It's even worse.
      At best, these bipartisan debates offer superficial answers to questions that somewhat relate to what was asked; at worst, it's two amateur comedians roasting each other over whatever some PR study suggests will goose engagement, and by leaving it to the RNC and DNC to run, they guarantee no one other parties are included, no moderator can be anything shy of mainstream/establishment types, and absolutely nothing of actual, substantial depth gets tackled.
      It's embarrassing and shameful, how inept and shammy these things have become.

    • @carlos10571
      @carlos10571 23 дні тому

      It's inevitable. Like calling the sun an unintentional tan machine.

  • @suzibarlow3611
    @suzibarlow3611 23 дні тому +50

    Okay, I gotta say something here. As a past co-president of my local League of Women Voters, we ALWAYS ran NONpartisan debates. The GOP wasn't the most liked for their methods, like gerrymandering and Supreme Court justice partisan nominations. They took over the once neutral, now comical presidential debate. This guy is here to excuse what the Commission did in favor of pets politics and, well, profit for the media. Bless his heart. Turn the debates back to the League of Women Voters, who for one hundred years, pursued just politics on both sides. Look it up.

    • @matt5721
      @matt5721 19 днів тому +1

      They ran it only three times: 1976, 1980, and 1984.
      So twice they played a pivotal role in electing Reagan, who was the antichrist. Same timeframe the RNC consent decree was deemed necessary.
      I'd call that a bad track record.

    • @ZeikCallaway
      @ZeikCallaway 11 днів тому +1

      This. The commission has only helped make the debates a circus. They're not debates, they aren't held accountable, they aren't asked hard questions, etc.

  • @Elerius
    @Elerius 24 дні тому +39

    lol. thanks for coming back, Jon. Please stick around at least another decade or 3

  • @gildardo
    @gildardo 24 дні тому +59

    There is no mention that the commission on the presidential debate is a private organization. It's a voluntary participation.

    • @cap00ify
      @cap00ify 23 дні тому +4

      I think it's implied given that the premise of the interview is that both candidates are declining the commission's debates?

  • @kateuhler7803
    @kateuhler7803 24 дні тому +36

    Why should Biden submit to a drug test if rumper doesn't?!? How is THAT fair?

    • @gerryc3112
      @gerryc3112 24 дні тому

      @kateuhler7803 The Orange Lump would fail since he's already on extremely powerful medication for his verbal diarrhea and mental constipation.

  • @bretebey
    @bretebey 23 дні тому +16

    It's impossible to claim non-partisan when no third parties are allowed.

    • @darrelledison7180
      @darrelledison7180 21 день тому

      He's not a part of these two debates that's what the show is about.

    • @bretebey
      @bretebey 21 день тому +1

      @@darrelledison7180 - You missed the point. He claims the Commission of Presidential Debates is non-partisan, yet they only allow reps from the two parties.

    • @darrelledison7180
      @darrelledison7180 21 день тому

      @@bretebey Genuis you missed the point his commission isn't doing the debates the whole point of the show is how does he feel about Biden going to the CNN and ABC bypassing his commission that usually does the debates he has nothing to do with there only being the two major partys in a two party system. Lol 🤡

  • @jennifere.9815
    @jennifere.9815 24 дні тому +75

    It is NOT non-partisan. It is bi-partisan. They completely leave out third parties, and let the two candidates run it.

    • @k_hack9441
      @k_hack9441 23 дні тому

      Grow up hippie

    • @dvsmike
      @dvsmike 23 дні тому +11

      Let RFKjr in the debates!!

    • @3zObafouzr
      @3zObafouzr 23 дні тому +5

      3rd party candidates can get on the stage (see Perot), so it is non-partisan even though it happens rarely. That's actually an argument against taking the debates away from the comission, now CNN and ABC can jack up the polling requirements to block Kennedy from the debate stage.

    • @standupguy12
      @standupguy12 23 дні тому

      The Nonpartisan Commission probably would have let RFK Jr. Biden and Trump have formed a contract to have a private 1v1 debate, specifically for the purpose of excluding RFK Jr.

    • @phelan_pt
      @phelan_pt 23 дні тому +1

      ​@@3zObafouzr That would be true if the polling requirements made sense. But they're too high, to the point that only very rarely can a third party candidate get in the debates.
      That makes it bipartisan, and stifles speech and third party candidate coverage, so I don't think it can really be called non-partisan.
      And that's regardless of what is chosen for these non-commission debates. They can be more bipartisan, or more non-partisan, but that doesn't affect the commission's partisanship.

  • @BrighidsForge
    @BrighidsForge 24 дні тому +35

    I learned a lot during the debates, particularly between Trump & Hillary: she had actual policies, could speak in an educated manner and was knowledgeable. Trump, on the other hand, was NONE of those things.

    • @wreckage-vs5jv
      @wreckage-vs5jv 24 дні тому +8

      Turned out half of America felt more connected with the guy who couldn't speak.

    • @rustyoak8860
      @rustyoak8860 22 дні тому

      unfortunately she was so corrupt, she couldn't win the election.

  • @annaf.w.5154
    @annaf.w.5154 24 дні тому +18

    Primary debates were what we wanted. This debate is just the pre cursor for snl episodes

    • @LateNightwithStudBuyers
      @LateNightwithStudBuyers 23 дні тому

      dang, the season just ended! gonna have to wait for the second debate for a fresh season 50 cold open

  • @aarongrooves
    @aarongrooves 23 дні тому +4

    7:20 "I don't think you're making the case for democracy you think you're making" 😂

  • @CosmicPhilosopher
    @CosmicPhilosopher 23 дні тому +7

    Thank you, Jon. The vast majority of political "debates" are worthless posturing.

  • @AustinFremaint
    @AustinFremaint 23 дні тому +13

    I want to hear about RFK and the debates

    • @5m0k3y9
      @5m0k3y9 23 дні тому +1

      🧠🪱🧀

    • @AustinFremaint
      @AustinFremaint 17 днів тому

      @@5m0k3y9 having had a worm in his brain and still knowing the constitution way way more than our sitting Prez and our last Prez 😂😂😂 I love it so much

    • @EdwardEmerson
      @EdwardEmerson 17 днів тому

      Yes RFK Jr needs to be in the debates!

  • @theoddballescape6302
    @theoddballescape6302 24 дні тому +17

    If this is so important, the candidates should be allowed to have more time to respond. Show a visible timer to them and us, the microphone should automatically mute when it is not your turn to speak.

  • @paigemalloy4276
    @paigemalloy4276 23 дні тому +6

    For me, the debates are an important display of the basic competency of the candidates and how they behave under pressure. Do they talk s*it about the other person or do they lean on facts? Are they powerful speakers or do they stumble over their words? Are they able to think on their feet or will they flounder when given a rough question?
    (A _character_ study rather than a political one.)

  • @dshepherd107
    @dshepherd107 24 дні тому +91

    I have to admit this gentleman made me laugh. I couldn’t dislike him. Frank seems like he’s genuinely trying to hold productive debates

    • @SteveJonesOwnsDSP
      @SteveJonesOwnsDSP 24 дні тому +29

      Don't be fooled, he's just mad that he's losing his position. Jon asked him multiple times what benefit there is, and he couldn't state anything clearly. If he truly wanted a productive debate, he wouldn't be insisting on an audience or town hall setting.

    • @psugab
      @psugab 24 дні тому +9

      ​@@SteveJonesOwnsDSP yup. I knew as soon as he said he was RNC commissioner for Regan he was going to show he was only there to smile and make people think he is trying to help

    • @duroxkilo
      @duroxkilo 24 дні тому +9

      ​@@SteveJonesOwnsDSP :) i think mr Frank offered a few examples -that for him made sense. just because very few talking points or answers are truly memorable is not the same as being a waste of time. if anything, something said during the 1 on 1 debates is generally regarded as the 'official stand' of the candidates...

    • @dshepherd107
      @dshepherd107 24 дні тому +5

      @@SteveJonesOwnsDSP Well you may be right. I tend to think the best of people, which isn’t always true.

    • @LateNightwithStudBuyers
      @LateNightwithStudBuyers 23 дні тому +2

      dude thinks of himself as the plebs' gatekeeper to the royalty.
      "b-b-b-b-b-b-but before my super duper debate commission, you regular poors could never ask a question of someone who is the President or of one who would want to become president. you need me, you guys!"

  • @GhostHound7537
    @GhostHound7537 24 дні тому +36

    ”If you make noise, the secret service will drag you out” is a rule that should apply not just to the audience, but to the candidates as well XD

  • @cartoonjohn
    @cartoonjohn 23 дні тому +8

    What could we possibly learn in a debate between them that we don't already know?

    • @winnemucca-sk5392
      @winnemucca-sk5392 23 дні тому +3

      if they actually challenged each other's policies we could learn quite a bit. but they will say general things. promise that they are the reason anything in the economy is going well. I would love to see Trump have to defend his economic policies or his cabinet's handling of Hawaii fires or Ohio railroad disaster. Neither of them have high approval ratings.

    • @AllenKnutson
      @AllenKnutson 21 день тому +1

      I think a side-to-side comparison, in which Biden is old but coherent, whereas Trump is manifestly suffering from dementia, could be illuminating for a lot of people who haven't been paying attention to just how far downhill Trump has gone since 8 years ago.

  • @oil_can
    @oil_can 22 дні тому +4

    Mr. Fahrenkopf sounds like a representative of the Horse-Drawn Buggy Commission arguing for the relevance of horse-drawn buggies.

  • @HorrorMetalDnD
    @HorrorMetalDnD 23 дні тому +2

    How It Should Be:
    - Instead of debates, hold a series of forums where each forum focuses on one area of public policy, and where each candidate separately (and for the same amount of time) sits down with the moderator for a one-on-one discussion, followed by questions from the audience
    - Every candidate on the ballot in enough states to theoretically get 270 Electoral College votes would be eligible to participate in these forums
    - Instead of being a series of soundbytes with little or no substance that tend to just be anti-the-other-guy, the candidates can focus on their own policy solutions and more meaningfully interact with average voters, especially those who might not be as familiar with a particular candidate at the forum.

  • @TheAndrewsAve
    @TheAndrewsAve 24 дні тому +8

    I've never liked a guy this much while disagreeing with them this much. It's weird

  • @stevenrodriguez3891
    @stevenrodriguez3891 24 дні тому +16

    Universal Healthcare in the USA, Jon ✊

    • @winnemucca-sk5392
      @winnemucca-sk5392 23 дні тому

      yeah let's have that as a talking point. tired of hearing this come up, a party get's a majority and nothing is said.

  • @syracusealumnus79
    @syracusealumnus79 24 дні тому +10

    Jon made some grest counter points, but is anyone else confused about why an 84 year old man is trying to defend his job?

  • @DarkPesco
    @DarkPesco 23 дні тому +5

    The presidential debate commission has NEVER been on the side of the people in any previous debate of my life! Do you know how many debates they did a pitiful job fact-checking lies from both sides? All of them! I don't blame anyone for not wanting them to handle debates...they are incompetent!

  • @aleclinarte8406
    @aleclinarte8406 22 дні тому +12

    Both candidates don't want RFK Jr. in the debates. He is a threat to both of them.

    • @sjw531
      @sjw531 12 днів тому

      Why waste our time with RFK, Jr debating. RFK, Jr has disgraced his family name with conspiracy theories and his anti-vax nonsense. Vaccinations saved his children and prevented them from the polio virus. Maybe his heroine drug addiction did affect his ability to critical think.

  • @carmelmireles4168
    @carmelmireles4168 24 дні тому +9

    The guest proof of the problem

  • @frederikwauterickx9192
    @frederikwauterickx9192 24 дні тому +14

    A quick Google search delivered that this guest is a couple years older then President Biden, so think about that, Americans, when you go vote in November. Older people can still be very vocal like this gentleman from the Commission and President Biden himself.

    • @elainehewitt6813
      @elainehewitt6813 23 дні тому +1

      Yeah, the issue should not be age. That said, I don't like either candidate and I feel cheated that they're squashing RFK out because he'll make them look like fools.

  • @aghamom
    @aghamom 23 дні тому +12

    Non partisan instead of bipartisan?
    Then why is the Lib Party/Green Party never part of it?

  • @hanscombe72
    @hanscombe72 18 днів тому +1

    This gentleman is thoroughly engaging! I enjoy listening to him.

  • @calvotix
    @calvotix 24 дні тому +8

    No mention of third party candidates, huh?

    • @greeempire
      @greeempire 21 день тому

      Yes! Won't someone think of Gary Johnson /s

    • @nyanuwu4209
      @nyanuwu4209 17 днів тому

      Why would there be? America is run by two cults who both swear they aren't cults, and hordes of fools make endless excuses as to why they only ever support one of the cults.

  • @ek6321
    @ek6321 21 день тому +1

    Frank is just a delightful man and interviewee.

  • @thedoctor755
    @thedoctor755 24 дні тому +9

    It's too bad that Jon didn't ask him about the Debate Commission shenanigans in 2000... when they changed the rules on Ralph Nader in order to keep him out of the debates. (Spoilers: Nader made the minimum poll percentage that they required, then they arbitrarily raised the bar for him right before the 1st debate so he would be disqualified.) Yes, co-owned by the RNC & DNC for a reason.

    • @elainehewitt6813
      @elainehewitt6813 23 дні тому

      Yup and they're doing the same thing ish to RFK. Slimy slippery politics. I have disregard for both of them.

    • @HorrorMetalDnD
      @HorrorMetalDnD 23 дні тому +2

      @@elainehewitt6813, the CPD also requires debate participants to be on the ballot in enough states to reach 270 Electoral College votes. Will he reach that? It’s not looking like he will, and unlike the polling threshold, 270 is a reasonable requirement.

    • @elainehewitt6813
      @elainehewitt6813 21 день тому

      @@HorrorMetalDnD We’ll see. That said, they have blocked him at every turn. They have misrepresented him constantly. Clearly they don’t even want him to be seen.

  • @bomaite1
    @bomaite1 23 дні тому +3

    Where my wife is from, each political party has a platform. A platform is a set of ideals and beliefs that are meant to be lived up to. The politicians are simply there as placeholders. They can perform the functions of meeting with constituents, fielding questions at events, giving speeches, etc., but their main function is voting the party line where any decision is being made. If you ever fail to vote the party line, which happens all the time here in America, you will be immediately removed from your position and someone else will take up your responsibilities. You will never, ever, hold a job in politics again if you "Vote your conscience". It is always anyone's best guess which way our own representatives will vote, but it is usually determined by who gives the largest campaign contribution. Democracy in America has just collapsed into legal bribery, and everyone just shrugs and accepts it. That is why there is so much indifference about the political process here, because the important issues are determined in the back room with the lobbyists over cognac and caviar. Your bumper sticker and 25 dollar donation does not mean jack.

  • @CancellerPalpatine
    @CancellerPalpatine 24 дні тому +5

    Stewart for debate moderator!

  • @timshanks8751
    @timshanks8751 23 дні тому +3

    There should be three additional debates held by the commission leading up to November and a VP debate.

  • @christopherharrison2174
    @christopherharrison2174 24 дні тому +5

    Wish this commission opened their doors to third party candidates. Their loss and ours.

    • @elainehewitt6813
      @elainehewitt6813 23 дні тому

      It's on purpose and it should be considered criminal.....kinda like Russia.

  • @braha6737
    @braha6737 24 дні тому +3

    Thank you John

  • @user-qg5wg9ut2o
    @user-qg5wg9ut2o 21 день тому

    Thank you for your insightful conversation

  • @DougGrinbergs
    @DougGrinbergs 24 дні тому +5

    Dem Rep CPD duopoly displaced nonpartisan LWV debates

  • @AnthonyMoss-pm1vc
    @AnthonyMoss-pm1vc 24 дні тому +1

    What a lovely interview/discussion. Yay.

  • @PatriciaHain-uw8vx
    @PatriciaHain-uw8vx 22 дні тому +1

    Frankly Frank was Fabulous🤗

  • @vondoromal7016
    @vondoromal7016 23 дні тому

    A very relevant and timely subject and guest!

  • @SteveJonesOwnsDSP
    @SteveJonesOwnsDSP 24 дні тому +24

    I'm glad Biden changed it up -- the audience is a big annoyance and should not be there. And the mute button should have been exercised in the last debates when Trump just ran his mouth -- this guy is just mad he's about to be Thanos Snap'd due to his failures.

    • @DocRock71
      @DocRock71 24 дні тому +2

      "I'm glad Biden changed it up.." That never happened. Biden didn't change anything. Trump has been saying publicly numerous times in the last 6 months that he absolutely would not show up to a "commission debate", said they were rigged and Trump flatly ruled out any "commission debates". This is all public record. Biden simply took Trump at his word and proposed an alternative where Trump would agree to attend...and the media has utterly botched this basic fact across the board, including Stewart, sadly.💯🤷

    • @bunyipdragon9499
      @bunyipdragon9499 24 дні тому +8

      ​@@DocRock71isn't Biden the one that said no audience though ? Surely that's a big change ?

    • @winnemucca-sk5392
      @winnemucca-sk5392 23 дні тому +2

      @@bunyipdragon9499 yes he set the rules. he only wants to go two times. Trump is probably happy to only have 2 debates as he won't be prepared for much. I wish these two had to debate against the other candidates as well. They probably won't get to the required percentage, but even if they did neither of these two want them in it.

  • @timbuckingham6734
    @timbuckingham6734 24 дні тому +2

    Biden just had too much ice cream before the state of the union😂

  • @elsiebartlett6808
    @elsiebartlett6808 23 дні тому +1

    To me, we could learn a lot from when debates were first televised. The opinions on “who won” the first televised debates differed wildly based on whether they were listened to on the radio or viewed. Now that they are almost exclusively viewed instead of heard (a more pure focus on the words and less focused on the theater of it all), the attention of all candidates has been put on theatrics, as Jon said. Many other cogent points made here.

  • @user-zf5jl8tn1r
    @user-zf5jl8tn1r 22 дні тому

    Love Frank…..amusing witty and fast on his feet. Great guest!

  • @terrenelicense3498
    @terrenelicense3498 23 дні тому +2

    The best debates were all prior to the commission. Lincoln and Douglas, Kennedy and Nixon, Reagan and Mondale were all without the commission.

  • @realnews1322
    @realnews1322 22 дні тому +1

    Mute the microphones when time expires. Simple.

  • @artlesscalamity348
    @artlesscalamity348 24 дні тому +4

    Debates are dumb to begin with, but the commission has been doing them badly for long enough. I don’t blame Biden for going around them.

  • @seanpatrick1243
    @seanpatrick1243 24 дні тому +4

    Klepper is great!
    But he could definitely learn a thing or two from John Stewart about how to critically interview a guest.

  • @GeoTrioMusic
    @GeoTrioMusic 23 дні тому +1

    The debates are the second to last stop on an impossibly long and depressing subway ride. The only reason the average person would get excited at all about them is because they signal that it's almost over.

  • @gianturtlecow1455
    @gianturtlecow1455 16 днів тому

    I love how he clarifies non-partisan from bi-partisan so strongly but still very respectfully

  • @ripadipaflipa4672
    @ripadipaflipa4672 23 дні тому

    Frankly I love this man also very informative.

  • @Florence-xu9zn
    @Florence-xu9zn 24 дні тому +48

    Probably a 50/50 shot RFK, Jr. makes the CNN debate, given he's already gotten more than 15% in two polls that qualify

    • @user-du1ew6gq2u
      @user-du1ew6gq2u 24 дні тому +3

      ...only the brain worm.

    • @artlesscalamity348
      @artlesscalamity348 24 дні тому

      DJT is already filling the role of conspiracy nut, not sure why we would need two.

    • @Idlewyld
      @Idlewyld 24 дні тому +7

      I think Kennedy can win.

    • @dwainmcwilliams2043
      @dwainmcwilliams2043 24 дні тому +2

      Wasn't there in history, an old world Kingship, whose Bloodline ran thin? And what came after were offsprings with Bizarre birth defects? Just asking.😂 Take care.

    • @artlesscalamity348
      @artlesscalamity348 24 дні тому +4

      DJT is already filling the tin-foil nutto slot, sorry.

  • @roberthevern6169
    @roberthevern6169 24 дні тому +5

    During the 2016 debate between Hillary and DJT, DJT just wandered around the stage.
    Will that be disallowed, so they must remain at the podium while the other speaks?

    • @bonniebrush94
      @bonniebrush94 23 дні тому

      It would be great if they would put them in sound proof booths and turn off the Mic when it's the other candidate's turn.

  • @isaacdave5603
    @isaacdave5603 24 дні тому +1

    You ROCK DUDE

  • @georgelayton6641
    @georgelayton6641 23 дні тому +2

    How are representatives of the DNC and the RNC nonpartisan?

    • @phelan_pt
      @phelan_pt 23 дні тому

      They could be, if they wanted to. Just because they're being bipartisan doesn't mean that they can't be non-partisan, if they were honest.

    • @georgelayton6641
      @georgelayton6641 23 дні тому

      @@phelan_pt A member of the DNC is a member of a partisan committee. A member of the RNC is a member of a partisan committee. How can you be nonpartisan of a partisan committee?

  • @donstevenson2660
    @donstevenson2660 23 дні тому +1

    They have never been real debates. High school debaters have to follow strict rules and show facts and sources.

  • @bononista3999
    @bononista3999 23 дні тому +2

    I feel as the viewer that this poor man didn't quite understand the point Jon was trying to make and was more concerned with trying to explained what improvements his organization has made and what improvements might come of independent debates in 2024. He did not seem to acknowledge that the entire idea of a debate has long since been lost. Trump following Clinton around like a stalker was the last nail in the coffin of possibly usefulness.

  • @user-dd2dd3fm7f
    @user-dd2dd3fm7f 24 дні тому +1

    Well done, Frank!

  • @paulmaggiar8274
    @paulmaggiar8274 23 дні тому +2

    Fahrenkopf reminds me of a Lewis Black on sedatives.

  • @peterharris38
    @peterharris38 24 дні тому +1

    It's great to hear 2 obviously intelligent men pick apart the minutia of these debates.

  • @stooge389
    @stooge389 24 дні тому +1

    He wasn't gonna say clowns!! 😂

  • @RafaelRodriguez-jy6zr
    @RafaelRodriguez-jy6zr 12 днів тому

    Great program, and more now that Jon Stewart has come back home. Jon you should run for office.👍

  • @EdwardEmerson
    @EdwardEmerson 17 днів тому

    RFK JR needs to be in these debates!

  • @d.f.9064
    @d.f.9064 4 дні тому

    If you were supposed to be " in the middle of the candidates" WTH happened at EVERY "debate" with Trump in it? Where was the mute button?!!

  • @thedudescar674
    @thedudescar674 24 дні тому +5

    Free Assange NOW 🇦🇺

    • @elainehewitt6813
      @elainehewitt6813 23 дні тому

      Agreed!!! Give Snowden a pardon and get that hero back to this country.

    • @EdwardEmerson
      @EdwardEmerson 17 днів тому +1

      then VOTE FOR RFK Jr. He is the ONLY one who will pardon Assange. RFK Jr said that Assange is a hero and he is running as an independent.

    • @elainehewitt6813
      @elainehewitt6813 16 днів тому

      @@EdwardEmerson yes and the media and other politicians have made him and Snowden out to be criminals when in fact, the real criminals are the government who snoops on us without warrant.

  • @theoddballescape6302
    @theoddballescape6302 24 дні тому +7

    If you try to interrupt the other candidate, you get penalized by rewarding your opponent with extra time to speak...

  • @nowthenzen
    @nowthenzen 23 дні тому +1

    Frank is a natural showman. "Hopped up" 2:42 almost a spit take.

  • @alswedgin9274
    @alswedgin9274 23 дні тому +1

    The debates are like watching a circus..

    • @elainehewitt6813
      @elainehewitt6813 23 дні тому

      The only way I'll watch them is with a martini in one hand and the clicker in the other. It has to be pure entertainment because if I take it seriously, I'll implode.

  • @mskiki150
    @mskiki150 23 дні тому +1

    I totally agree that John should be a moderator he would do an awesome job. He would not care if Trump or Biden gets mad at him we need a few debates like this so both old men can get there point across and it would give both of them the opportunity to make the right choice in November

  • @fnizzelwhoop
    @fnizzelwhoop 23 дні тому +1

    What a surprisingly delightful dude!

    • @jbuster9
      @jbuster9 23 дні тому +1

      Too bad the product he's shilling is no bueno

  • @philoctetes_wordsworth
    @philoctetes_wordsworth 24 дні тому +3

    2:32 That thing about sitting is the first, most ridiculous thing! What debate EVER had the combatants sitting? When? Where? Primary school members of the Forensics Team sit, and wait their turns… Is THAT what he means?

    • @5stagerocket
      @5stagerocket 24 дні тому +9

      Obama and Romney were seated in their third debate

  • @Windkind0
    @Windkind0 23 дні тому

    The way Mr Fahrenkopf described the debate format is how we had our debates in Austria for a while. And while I am not generally a fan of debates, this works better than what I have seen in any US debate so far, especially if you have moderators that are not letting un-answered questions slip.

  • @riddlesphinxx
    @riddlesphinxx 23 дні тому

    This looks great! I’m really into the Economy and card abilities. I loved getting tons of resources in Terraforming Mars. Thanks for your perspective! I think I will likely back this

  • @dougliner2521
    @dougliner2521 23 дні тому

    SNL Al Gore "Lock Box..." George Bush "Strategery..." 😂

  • @one4allall4onenow
    @one4allall4onenow 15 днів тому

    Important topic. The League of Women Voters sponsored presidential debates for a long time before this Commission claimed authority on the process in 1987. The Comm. is “privately funded.”
    The League was already a non-partisan organization. I’d love to see Jon Stewart do more on the fuller story of what’s been happening with our US debate process.
    Thanks! 🤨🧐🙏

  • @bpalpha
    @bpalpha 23 дні тому +2

    We expect people to vote for us, but answer their pertinent questions in person?! C'mon! What do you think this is? Public service?!?! 😣

  • @jcooloti
    @jcooloti 23 дні тому +2

    No point at all for these debates without RFK Jr, whether you support him or not.

    • @AllenKnutson
      @AllenKnutson 21 день тому

      He's so absolutely disingenuous though, in every TV appearance. He shouldn't be allowed out in public without a continuous fact-checker ("yes, you DID say that, here's the video").
      Not to mention that "No point at all" is a ridiculous statement. At all? Really?

    • @jcooloti
      @jcooloti 21 день тому +1

      @@AllenKnutson well, I absolutely disagree with your opinion on RFK Jr. I don’t find him to be disingenuous at all. RFK Jr. is often slandered and taken out of context by the media and his political opponents that are defending the corporations that have them in their pockets. Also, like any normal human being, his stances on certain issues (often moot) have changed and evolved with age. RFK Jr. is a gentlemen, and willing to listen to people that disagree with him because he is a critical thinker. His claims aren’t merely pulled from out of nowhere, and he backs up what he says with studies, facts, and logic. He has been fighting toxic corporate powers his whole life, and successfully. This is critical thinking at its best and the basis of a healthy democracy. He’s an advocate for free speech, something you should be taking very seriously in this modern dangerous age of information. I also full heartedly agree with his stance on the Ukraine war and the military industrial complex. Half a million dead Ukrainians, who have fought a proxy war for us so the complex can make money from spreading NATO is absolutely appalling. I’m tired of American imperialism and the deaths that are resulting from it. These are the types of qualities I would like to see in any leader. He’s a breath of fresh air in a sea of disgusting corruption and unchecked crony capitalism and the only one that seems to care about restoring the middle class of America and our children’s futures. He’s the only one that addresses the health crisis in America. We are being poisoned by corporations profiting off of making food with toxic chemicals in them… just look at any other country what they are eating and the laws they have in place. I can go on and on and on. I don’t think RFK Jr is absolutely perfect, or any candidate or politician for that matter. But I do agree with most of what he has to say and I believe he’s proposing solutions to problems in America that have for too long now been ignored.

  • @jackalope5589
    @jackalope5589 22 дні тому

    Jon is absolutely right. I don’t remember a thing that was said during the pence / Harris debate. I only remember the fly landing on pence’s head 😂

  • @henryofthepeace4125
    @henryofthepeace4125 14 днів тому

    Please post more Desi Lydic, Jordan Klepper and Ronny Chieng.

  • @makerofnoise
    @makerofnoise 23 дні тому

    I want to see a Jeopardy! quiz show format. They can pick from categories, have to give their answer in the form of a question...

  • @aaronjg77
    @aaronjg77 23 дні тому +3

    why was there no question about if RFKJR should be included

  • @user-jd4uz9gw3h
    @user-jd4uz9gw3h 24 дні тому +7

    This guy just made the commission look way worsee

  • @patrickcairns4793
    @patrickcairns4793 22 дні тому

    Just have a 9 hour JRE podcast with both of them.....booom best possible way to learn what they really represent

  • @tylerhackner9731
    @tylerhackner9731 24 дні тому +8

    Love frank

  • @DataRew
    @DataRew 15 днів тому

    how do they run their polling for their results on their efficacy in having an impact on the vote?