The Rise and Fall of Ultimate Spider-Man
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2023
- An analysis of the Ultimate Spider-Man comics, from Peter Parker's origin right the way up to Miles Morales.
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My favorite thing about Peter's death is the sinister six failed in killing him. 6 of his enemies got together and they all lost against a dying child. It perfectly show how far Peter has gotten in being Spiderman. At end Peter was able to defeat them all before the Punisher's bullet did its job.
I think he would've survived if the truck didn't explode right on his face.
gobbie's fight with peter definitely ensured he wouldn't be able to pull through, he might have made it otherwise
@@Observer709he came back to life shortly after that anyway
@@YonkoAgenda yeah they both did
@@Observer709technically 5, there was only Norman, Sandman, Electro, Vulture, and Kraven. Otto was supposed to be there but Norman killed him after he made it clear he wanted to give up on his vengeance towards Spider-Man and just wanted to go back to being a scientist
Ultimate Spider-Man Was The Best in The Ultimate Universe
Probably the only good thing to come from the ultimate universe 💀 no offense to the rest of the ultimate universe but it feels like a PG-13 version of the boys
@@BillyBeanie From what I've see ln of the rest of the Ultimate verse that is the perfect description of it.
No doubt, the other ultimate characters looked boring.
hell is hot
I don’t even read comics Alex is just entertaining.
I find it pretty funny how other adaptions tone down Uncle Aaron a bit. He's pretty crazy in the Ultimate universe. He was ready to kill Miles in the original run 😂.
Same with Terra. In OG Judas Contract she might as well be gender bent Dio.
Funnily enough, the invincible show made Nolan way more eviller and cruel than comic.
He was a scumbag for sure lol, but he did develop out of it when he was revived.
But every other version makes him a misunderstood guy.
Yeah but FAMILY
@Mikhael Gribkov while I like your analysis, I gotta point out "none of these words are in the bible"
Like imagine explaining that sentence to someone fighting in WW1 lmao just realized how much context is needed to understand that sentence
@@MediumDSpeaks I mean it's not that ba----- now that you point out I sure multi fandom drift a lot.
I still think Invincible season 2 will be a mess due to how the changes already feel silly and stupid if you know the source material and how Amber is so bad even just show viewers feel the disconnect. Either they somehow deeply alter the text or we gonna have full body rejection of metal they showed into show's body for stupid reasons which they cover by "og writer approved" which works only in Invincible show community, every other, especially manga community would rip a new one because for some reason comic book fandom seems to have no respect for the source material being butchered or lack analytical skills to understand why Mark being asshole and pretty much OP on Earth was important part of how book used made stakes and established what it has to say about fascism.
I really miss Jessica Drew from the ultimate universe and her dynamic with Miles, going on to become a sort of mentor/older sister figure to him while Peter was dead. Obviously Peter B. Parker from Spider-Verse easily tops that, but it doesn’t make me miss Jess any less. We’re probably never gonna see her again, at least not as she was.
She's gonna be in the new spoderverse movie!
I have a feeling that she and 616 Ben Reilly would get along like a house on fire.
ultimate universe is returning though, at least for one event this summer, but likely it'll stick around afterwards, so she is definitely gonna be back
@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 it depends on how they will write this event (spoiler, probably bad as usual), so they will find yet another reason to destroy it.
@@jordyjohnathan5123 The Ultimate version of Jessica is actually pretty much a completely different character from the normal 616 version, which is what the one in Spider-verse seems to be based on. The similarity really ends at their names.
Kitty and Peter was a nice relationship that shouldn't have ended the way it did. Would have liked to see more of them together. Also, Ultimate Jessica Drew being a female clone of Peter was an interesting idea, I kind of want a 616 version of her.
There is a 616 version of her, she's just not a Peter clone
Ultimate Jess is pretty much a mix between 616 Jess and 616 Ben Reilly.
I think Kitty and Peter should’ve gotten married later in their adult years, reformed the ultimateverse X-men, and then have Miles take up the mantle (after Peter’s death of course)
Me too
@@robertrowley4929 100%.
The ultimate Spider-Man comics were the first comics that I read the entire run for (till Peter died I stopped there, never read the miles part) and it will always hold a special place in my heart, I’m pretty sure I read all 160ish issues over the course of 3 days, I would get Home from school at 4pm and then read until 3am in the morning, there was just something about it that kept me hooked. Needless to say I cried when I read death of Spider-Man at 3 in the morning
Same dude, ultimate Spider-Man was so good, I won’t lie tho I started reading miles but couldn’t get into it, his character was just really boring and while I will say the supporting characters are more interesting than him it’s still just a weak start off for a character
@@blackknightstudios9958 I agree. Even now he still feels like a black Peter, it's really Into the Spider Verse that made Miles such a good character.
@@TillmanStudios yeah tbh it took other media like the games and the movies to get me to like miles, I wish they could give him a definitive characterization in the comics instead of switching back and forth between black Peter parker and blatant racial stereotypes
@@blackknightstudios9958 Agreed. Miles deserves better in the comics.
Honestly I love Miles's character from Spiderverse and the recent stuff he's been in. I know he wasn't the best in his original comic debut but I really think he's been coming into his own as of late, also they should just call him Ultimate Spiderman to differentiate him from Peter.
I think Miles should talk more to 616 Peter
As long as he is called Spider-Man he will never become his own thing
@@Sagee_ Then they could just call him Recluse or something.
@Sagee He would be Spider-Man if he was still in the ultimate universe
or... just call him spider man
Seeing Venom screaming "Rawr" has me dead 💀
Bro was going through a phase....
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Man, the death of JJJ was fucking horrible, all his character arc was amazing and incredibly natural, he even becomes my favorite character. I just love how he was from wanting Spidey on prision to be willing to pay for Peter's education, and when Miles comes out he did the things right and on all his news he was supporting this new Spider-Man, and then THEY FUCKING KILL HIM FROM FUCKING NOWHERE, LIKE WHAT THE FUCK HE WAS ONE OF THE MOST CHARMING AND SWEET CHARACTERS, AAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
Man I just wanna say you’ve come such a far way away from your first video and it shows, between the editing, information, the overall quality. Keep up the good work man, we’ll all be here for the ride.
Yeah the work pays off !
I gotta say as a fan of Spidey since I was like 7, these videos have been a great gateway into the otherwise overwhelming world of Spiderman comics! Keep up the great work, these videos are spectacular
I agree!
Im a fan of spidey since i was like 2 or something and i gotta agree, Alex is Amazing!
I love the video he did on the original run, I always wanted to read it but it's like 1,000 issues! though I have read Ultimate Spider-Man because it is realistically doable
Peter being back really gives Miles the chance to become his own and not just "Spider-Man's replacement." Wish they did more with Peter, though (and, like, not destroying that entire universe).
I mean technically it was never destroyed, just inaccessible from the rest of the multiverse. Ultimate Invasion is coming up soon so it'll likely be back in the main multiverse again, even if it doesn't get new comics
You don't really go "up" from Spider-Man.
@@Nerwrax15You certainly can.
@@egbertmilton4003 since when lol
@@Nerwrax15 The original stories have plenty of flaws, so inherently, you can go up from Spider-Man in quality
I loved Ultimate Spider-Man, I’ve read all the way to Peter’s death twice;
The idea of Peter and Aunt May sharing a house with Iceman and Johnny Storm was so charming, all the interactions with other Marvel characters was always the highlight to me
Ironically, I just finished reading all the comics in the Ultimate universe a few days ago and I gotta say, I think you perfectly sum up the quality of the Spider-Man corner of the Ultimate universe. Excellent work as always!
What are your thoughts regarding Pre-Ultimatum X-Men, Ultimates, and Fantastic 4?
@@GaeaRage0798 Ultimate Fantastic Four is my favorite comic run in history
@@cassieanderson3936Ultimate X-Men & Ultimate Thor are pretty awesome to me
absolutely wild to hear you call your first USM video old and terrible was a wild shock to me, mostly because I binge-read all of the comic BECAUSE of that video and its one of my favorites still. That being said, this is a super solid vid and you killed this covering of what it does best! Love seeing your takes :)
Same bro!
Yeah creators tend to be really critical of themselves, I remember watching that video and thinking “wow this is pretty good”
When it comes to UA-camrs who talk about Spider-Man, you’re probably my favorite because I can feel all the love and passion that you put into your videos. In fact, your the main reason I came to care about and actually check out the Ultimate Spider-Man comics. I had heard such bad things about that universe that I just assumed it was all mostly bad by you helped me to find clarity and a new found love for Ultimate. Mainly Ultimate Spider-Man. I can see why it’s your favorite.
Ultimate Peter is always snapping on someone over anything
While Peter coming back is weird, I do appreciate the ending it gave him.
Kinda ironic how the Ultimate Universe, the dark double to 616, the mainline comics, was the one where Peter actually got his happy ending with MJ.
Agreed, i don't care what people say that it was dumb & sh*t atleast he got his happy ending
Can’t argue with you there.
It would've been better if MJ wasn't an a**hole.
They really fucked up Miles in 616 when they started to resurrect members of his family. These deaths are as importants as 616 Ben or Gwen's deaths.
The ultimate Spider-Man run, was awesome man. I still remember playing the ps2 game, damn nostalgia hits hard. When I think of MJ I always think of the one from ultimate Spider-Man
This recent run of spider-man did something no other run could, made me indifferent to Spider-Man.
Your original video on ultimate Spider-Man was the first video I ever saw on your channel and made me read ultimate Spider-Man and quite enjoy it! Looking forward to this one!
bro, Lenin....
you somehow get me back into Marvel Comics after half a decade of inactivity....
you're videos are still my favorites even after i watch more Video essays comic boys, at the point that i rewatch you're videos up to eight times, and i mean the hour long videos, good work man
i waited litterally 1 hour for this, i refreshed my subscribtion page over and over just to wait for this video man, i think my youtube subscription page's broken now....
worth it.
I'm sorry that you decided to get into current Marvel comics.
@@theonlybilge i'll be honest. I just re-read older stuff....
Or whatever seems interesting.... and re-reading the stuff i missed in the 6 years i was off marvel...
Whatever i choose to read, definitly won't include the current Spiderman run.... 💀
@@ThatC0nGuy i recommend readin immortal hulk its soo creative and amazing!
@@theonlybilge There are plenty of amazing current titles, it's just not necessarily the stuff that was amazing a few decades ago. The krakoan titles, Hulk, Venom, the new Green Arrow book, there's a LOT of good stuff.
@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 yeah, The modern X-Men Stuff's good.....
Ultimate SM was my introduction to SM. I loved it at the time, but looking back at it, it's hard not to notice how long in the tooth it eventually became. On the topic of Miles, I pay huge respect to Bendis for inventing him, but his run is actually by far the worst Miles run in my opinion. Ahmed and Ziglar both are doing/ did amazing jobs with him, as is Insomniac and of course Lord and Miller, who really made Miles into a big-time character with one of the biggest cinematic masterpieces of the last decade. Great video!
Saladin Ahmed's run on Miles was pretty great tbh. Felt like a return to form, and a "thank god we have some fresh blood in here" because it really just felt like Bendis' heart wasn't in it anymore. Maybe he stretched himself thin, I don't know. Those first 60 or so issues of Ultimate are some of the best comic books, period. But the series reallllllly dives off the rails, despite continuing to have good stories from time to time.
He absolutely stretched himself thin. I just think it's a pattern. He gives us gold for a good long while. Then, at some point, he loses interest in the wonderful characters he created and just stops caring. It's painfully evident in both Peter and Miles. Just happened faster with Miles since I think he was just "done" with Spider-man and felt he needed to move on to other things.
Hot take: I always liked Miles. He just got better over time in other media when other creators really elaborated on the elements that were already there that made him work.
A lot of people pretend he was awful at debut when he was just decent at best. And nobody ever admits that most of the backlash against his character was just basic racism. He definitely has gotten better over time as other writers have fleshed him out.
@@user-pi8pi3wj7h the weird racist backlash isn't even gone. They just can't deny that he's a great character anymore.
Twitter nerds had a whole fight about how "Miles Morales is Miles Morales, not Spider-Man." Instigated by like. Some fuckin Funko Pop names or something.
This does seem like a minority of internet weirdos though. 90% of people just think he rocks.
What did you like about him?
for me at least it was since i liked him i didn‘t like his way of thinking at first. its a thing that in my opinion at first didn‘t make miles special. while his cast of characters, abilities and suit were cool they were made dull by the decision to make him try to act like peter did in many occasions
luckily he evolved by a mile and i got to love the character all round
I like Miles, it’s just kinda odd when they have him exist in a universe where Peter is still alive. Like, y’know his “Uncle Ben” moment was when he failed to save his universe’s Peter, right?” The only time Peter and Miles existing in the same universe together fully worked was in Spider-Man’s life story where Miles was being trained by Peter to replace him as Spider-Man so Peter could retire as he was an old man at the time.
Ultimate Spider-Man is the closest we’ll get to a Netflix series cause that’s honestly how it feels! The writing, stories, and characters feel very relevant to stories that are being told nowadays 23 years after it’s initial release. It’s honestly one of if not my favorite versions of the character and world around him. Things are hard for him, but he still jokes. When he gives up, you completely understand where he’s coming from. And you can’t make the complaint that he’s a man child cause he is a child here, yet he’s very adult for his age. Not to mention, MJ isn’t annoying and doesn’t hold him back, sure he saves her a few times here and there but it’s not an everyday thing. If you haven’t read this series, you are missing out, and that’s coming from someone who isn’t much of a comics reader.
Seeing where Miles Morales started really shows how far Spider Verse took everything. Like the sheer amount of detail just in miles' room, versus in this comic which seems to mostly have blank walls
Lets not forget how GOOD the artwork is! I used to hang the covers on my wall like posters they were so good
My unhealthy sleep schedule is finally paying off. Nearly 1 am, but I get to watch a new Alex Lennen video, yay
Same
same for me.
Watching right with you lmao
Honestly, I love that Peter being a prick before the bite.
To me, Spider-Man is the man Uncle Ben wanted Peter to be, and that's a guy fundamentally different from what Peter wanted to do when he first got powers. The chip-on-his-shoulder, antisocial Peter WASN'T good enough, he HAD to change who he was to live up to the father he failed (kind of why I like him having no friends at the start and only developing a social circle after he became Spider-Man, becoming a more sociable and kind person). It's kind of a harsh lesson, but I like it.
Gotta say, Alex. You're one of the main sources for me when it comes to comic books (especially with Spider-man, obviously). I have a ton of appreciation on the amount of work you put in to your videos. These types of videos helps me as a fan of Spider-Man making my choices easier on which comic to read or get a physical copy of it, wanting to get into particular parts of a character's comic & not knowing if it's absolutely horrendous or amazing is really hard to know. One thing I've picked up on is to look out for comics with the author/artist (that I know I've enjoyed their pervious work) that has been involved with a issue run or a separate comic story on it's own, Like Michael Bendis or Geoff Loeb for example.
At least that's how I feel with Marvel's and DC's comics.
In short, thank you for the work you've put in & you're awesome!
I collected the entire run of USM up until the 1st arc with Miles. To me, that was a good jumping-off point as Peter had not only fulfilled his role as Spider-Man but had also inspired a new generation. Glad to know that Bendis continued his generally good work until Miles got added to mainstream continuity. The series had highs and lows but the worst was never terrible and the best was pinnacle Spider-Man.
Thank you for mentioning the upcoming issues. Of course I always liked Spider-Man, I’m a nerdy white boy, but when Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan) debuted she felt more relatable to me, because she was nerdy and younger than Spider-man, as well as newer and easier to jump into to. So it’s personally insulting to me that Marvel is killing a character I actually grew up with, and watched become successful. And they are also making my other favorite character worse just for shock value.
Truth is super hero books sell like shit and killing characters to pull a few headlines is the only thing they can do for press. It's what drives so many bizarre writing choices in general. The diehards aren't going to stop reading so pissing them off doesn't matter because those cheap or bizarre things that will end up in Forbes or whatever and help sell a few extra books. Once the readership dwindles back to the diehards only they'll revive her and go on back to normal. No one ever dies and there are no stakes, that's super hero comics in a nutshell.
Don’t worry she’ll come back eventually. I’m betting six months to a year….
@@crimsoncross8823 She'll obviously be back sooner or later, the question is if she'll be the same. It's very possible that they'll change her powers to be be in line with the MCU.
@@hpos1086 100% why they killed her
@@arran4285 It was also likely an attempt to get people to care about her to get more eyes on the upcoming movie and to get people to read more of this crappy Spider-Man run.
Imagine if Marvel sold off their characters or becomes public domain and someone actually competent picks it up and makes a comic where the best things are just put together.
I watched a video about Peter and Chat and thought their relationship would work really well in manga format.
I saw that video too. That was a splendid piece of work.
I need more Spider-Man recommendations. Finished all of ultimate, and all of JMS because of your JMS video. MORE.
How about reading from the start of it all?
@@marcjustinpascasio9955 idk if I’m there yet, but maybe one day
Note, this does not mean every other writers run after sucked. Just that Lee’s encompassed some of the wall crawlers earliest years.
We won guys.Ultimate Spider-Man is getting a reboot 🎉
With Hickman and Checchetto😎. So excited
Dude thank you so much for these videos. It is so inspiring that not just me, but you and all your followers are the ones who really understand Peter Parkers character. Every your new video is like an event for me. Can't wait for new videos. You are great, thank you so much !
Thank you for this video Alex, I love your content! And Ultimate Spider-Man is (probably) my favorite spidey comic, possibly comic in general. The wonderful writing of the characters and Mark Bagley’s gorgeously stylized and distinct art gives this series such a unique and pleasantly 2000s feel. Love this series❤️
W video
Ultimate Spider-Man was what saved the Spider-Man franchise in Marvel comics. To me, Ultimate Spider-Man was the heart and soul of The Ultimate Universe, which is why I love the Ultimate Universe.
This video is what made me finally start my journey reading the Ultimate Spider-Man comics. I’ve read almost every issue of Peter Parker’s story in the Ultimate universe and what a journey it was. I loved all the characters and it was interesting to find out just how many concepts the Raimi and Webb films actually took from the Ultimate comic run. I’m actually way more pissed off at the Ultimate Spider-Man TV show for taking this comic’s name and not properly adapting these amazing characters and stories. I loved the comic so much that I may read it again and I have you to thank for kickstarting it.
Honestly as someone who grew up reading Ultimate Spider-Man, it always felt like such a great, grounded and human approach to Peter in an era where his current comics run was really struggling (kind of like how it is nowadays, huh?) And while the Ultimate universe as a whole eventually ended up imploding due to plenty of questionable creative decisions, in the end both those comics and the Raimi movies shaped a large reason as to why both Peter Parker and Spider-Man ended up becoming my favorite superhero. And Miles is both a great and worthwhile addition that, while he started out pretty generic and barely had any rogues gallery of his own, his later appearances and especially his role in the Spiderverse movies and Insomniac games have fleshed him out as a great character that can stand strong alongside Peter. And so if there’s anything amazing the Ultimate universe did, it was give us both this spectacular new version of Peter Parker along with a great new character who took up the mantle when he no longer could.
Can't wait to see the rise and fall to Peter and mary Jane's relationship considering what the comics keep doing to them
yooooo i love that you put on vindicated during the end card. it always makes me think of ultimate
I wish they hadn't killed off Peter, it would have been so interesting to watch him grow up and go to college and continue his story. There was definitely untapped potential there.
Imo Bendis was getting bored of the character and really, really wanted to write Miles instead. I feel like it didn't have to be an either or scenario, but that's how it went down. This fear that Miles can never shine so long as Peter Parker lives (with good writing).
Bendis could've easily make Peter age throughout his run and Peter's death should've happened when he is at his late 20s or early 30s!
@@PedroLucas-mg5jeit's fun when two people with the same background color on their youtube image talk with opposite opinions lol. it's like if they were the same person and changed their opinions immediately.
A random Ultimate Spidey film by Alex at 11:30 at night?
*YES PLEASE!*
Peter's death was the killing blow. Miles just couldn't measure up to Pete so eventually he did return. I was willing to give Miles a chance once he experienced loss such as the death of his Mom and the confrontation that accidentally killed his Uncle. Unfortunately, all those were retconned and since then he has no real place so he's always getting these power boosts and upgrades but he's eternally in the ogs shadow.
miles can, and if anything peters death and miles coming in makes it better because it shows peter made a difference. him coming back was dogshit.
@@jico5147 miles was dogshit
@@jico5147 Peter's death wasn't necessary for that though. Newer interpretations of the character have shown that you can absolutely have Miles, and have him feel like his own man, even while having Peter around, still doing his thing. Insomniac Spider-Man has both characters being active at the same time, working together, and while SpiderVerse does honor the original origins of the character by having his version of Peter Parker killed off, Miles still spends the whole first movie being mentored by another Peter, and working alongside multiple other versions of Spider-Man without ever being overshadowed once. He always felt like the main character in his story. So really, the whole death of Peter Parker just seems rather pointless in retrospect. It was seemingly built upon the faulty premise that Miles would struggle to make a name for himself so long as Peter was still there, but as recent years have shown, the idea that for a new hero to rise, the old one HAS to die, or disappear in some way just really doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
@@DevilHunter1994 i’m not saying mainline peter should be dead im saying they should’ve kept ultimate peter dead. they might be similar characters but Peters death in the ultimate comics was really impactful and them reversing that was a terrible editorial or writer choice.
@@jico5147 I understand what you mean. My point though was that I just think killing off Peter to replace him was a misguided idea in concept, and was unnecessary at the end of the day, since later projects proved that the two characters can coexist without one overshadowing the other. Whether it's mainline Peter, or Ultimate Peter doesn't really matter. Sure, many people enjoyed the story as is, but for many others, it just started Miles off on the wrong foot.
Can never get enough of you talking about spider-man, Alex!
caught one of ur vids on my recommended a few days ago, binged a shit ton of em as spider-man was my first favourite hero
glad to see em pumping out :)
I hated how they handled the Gwen carnage incident. Its so dumb when writers kill the original character but replace them so its as if they never left but still that character isn't the real one and that death still lingers. The only time I have been somewhat okay with it was with Gaurdians of the Galaxy in Groot and thats because thats his son but they dont state that in the films which annoys me because then everyone isn't aware and then I thought Gamora was handled amazingly as they made her her one character so it wasn't full replacement.
Btw no one talks about how Gwen is almost just as screwed over in any iteration like Peter like they never get a full happy ending together and when they get close some green freak comes in wheather Goblin or Jackal (or the one time Parker was a lizard) to ruin it.
I guess Gwen's death worked for me because I had no idea if they were really going to bring her back or not. It also seemed to be the first of many dominoes that sent Peter spiralling before he realized that he needs to integrate both peter and Spider-Man at once, not alternating between the two (if that makes sense)
I really love the ultimate spider-man comic's because, the world building each character has their own character arcs and even this universe destroys 616 comic especially now.
I love your videos man, hopefully you will talk about miles one day your videos are always so positive and make me feel better whenever I am sad.
Jessica Drew spider-woman in the ultimate universe, was my favorite character and her bond along with interactions with peter parker and miles made me empathize with her character arcs.
loved ur ultimate marvel videos since your first one on the villains. Thanks again on a great video alex ❤
15:06 I loved that video,it got me into the comic and I'll always love it for that, your videos are always so fun to watch man
Hope you're doing great
Thank you for this! Ultimate Spider-Man was and is an amazing Comic run! 👍
Alex Lennen can make the bulk movie sound like a masterpiece
Man i love your ultimate spiderman videos sm
Amazing videos! All of your Spider-Man videos have been absolute bangers
I read through this entire story. And I love it to bits!
I’m glad that we have both miles and Peter as Spider-Man, mostly because we didn’t lose Peter
Man this was a joy to watch, good job on this!
I really enjoy your videos, they’re very well-edited and you have good comedic timing
Great video as always! As you were discussing the Ultimatum event, it reminded me of how Ms. Marvel's story was interwoven with crossover events during the original run. That's what makes her character in the comics so foundational for modern readers, especially when the current Spider-Man comics are increasingly tied to an outmoded status quo. Anyways, keep up the fantastic work!
Edit: Also yeah what the fudge is going on with Marvel editorial killing off Ms. Marvel outside of her own comic book? Istgoodness.
She doesn't have her own ongoing comic series for at least an year due to poor sells while team ups like Champions where Ms. Marvel plays major role currently in some state of limbo after Outlawed event disaster. Technically speaking theres no much space else for her "shocking death" exept Spider-Man run.
@@Ocelot835then put her in the right Spider-Man book! Miles Morales was a ongoing right now which by the way is much better than Zeb Wells ASM, why they didn't put her in his book? It would make more sense since they are already friends
Gotcha! Thanks for the clarification; I haven't followed much of the recent stuff so that makes sense. Still bummed that Marvel Editorial feels the need to do that.
@@Gabe600 Having Kamala as another supporting character for Miles would've been amazing. Unfortunately she died for nothing in ASM.
I always love seeing a new video from you drop
watched the show on disney xd and finished it on disney + a few years later never thought he died as they never showed it
Your first Ultimate Spider-Man video got me to read the whole ultimate universe, so thanks. I've still never got into 616 because of all the baggage but I'm currently reading the 2099 comics and plan to read MC2.
"I'm gonna blow up Spider-Man's school- with all the CHILDREN IN IT!!!"💀
Awesome video, Alex!! Ultimate Spider-Man is my favorite Spider-Man comic run. Brian Michael Bendis and Mark Bagley did a great job this comic series. I have all of 133 issues as well as issues 150-160. I have the video game based of the comic series and I love that game as well. I also love the Miles Morales comics as well. Keep up the great work, man. 😎👍
just realised i was in bed for 3 hours awake and im watching this 3 hours after it came out. I COULD'VE WATCHEC IT WHEN IT CAME OUT
Ultimate Spider-Man was a brilliant modern take on the web-slinger. The storylines were a must-read (including the death of Peter Parker). The characters & villains were giving a new modern look that actually worked, and it introduced us to Miles Morales; a Spider-Man that that will eventually become a fan favourite. But when Peter suddenly comes back from the dead, the series pretty much jumped the shark.
Fun fact: When Marvel faced bankruptcy back in the 90’s, ToyBiz bought Marvel and actually worked with them to create the Ultimate Universe. One of the members of Toybiz pointed out that Marvel has very iconic characters and that comic sales should’ve been up and he believed that it was hard for new readers to jump on because they had decades worth of continuity to read through and current readers needed something fresh to get them invested after the 90’s really made a mess of comics and burnt them out like when DC and Marvel were chasing the success of Image Comic and only looked at the stylish and edgy character designs. When the Ultimate Universe became a hit it also lead to ToyBiz to create a whole new line of Marvel figures that really took off and lead to Hasbro making their line of homage figures Marvel Legends.
Every time you upload a video i always save it to make sur eincsn dit down snd tkse it all in. One of my favorite analysis channels, thank you for all the effort you out into these. Truly engaing and great moments of humor. Please get some well deserved rest.
great analysis! I would love to see something like this for Superman! Keep it up mate!
Welp goodbye to sleep, time to watch another amazing video
I guess this is an unpopular opinion but Miles was always good infact the original 27 issue are still his best run (though the new run might be). His arc of struggling to accept himself really worked and the page where he finally accepted himself as Spider-Man is really powerful. AlsoI feel most version of robbed him of his friendship with Ganke which is his most important relationship.
Agreed 😊
I just binged all of your videos so this came at the perfect time
This week i finished this book and i read it because of your other video, it restored my faith in spider-man and was one of the best runs i have ever read
Love your vids! Keep up the good work man👍
Ultimate Spider-Man volumes were all over my school and public libraries when I really became a comics fan as a middle schooler way back in the mid 2000s. I loved it as a contrast to the 616 and collected editions of the JMS works and Peter as a grown adult changing career paths. Teacher Peter with MJ and eventually Mayday being born would have been great but then Civil War and OMD happened. I remember being so upset and confused at the time as a 14yr old. But the Ultimate comics were so easily digestible and I can easily see how this line of comics are what helped solidify a new generation of Spider-Man fans. They had Amazing Friends in the 80's and the Stern run of comics. Millennials had the 90's show, the '02 film, and a fresh line of Spider-Man stories updated for modern sensibilities. Ultimate Spider-Man came out at the perfect time, and I wish Ultimate X-Men was remembered as fondly
The original volume up until peters death is my favorite stretch of Spider-Man. For me, that Peter is my Spider-man, I know the story has flaws, but I love it so much.
Cool video as always Alex Lenin 👍
Man, how can you say "in my older, terrible videos" I get like it's human nature to think you aren't hot shit but god dangit man your SIXTH video is how I discovered you and I genuinely thought it was a masterpiece. And you had five more videos? Oh yessir I'm watching all of those immediately. Homie, you got me into "comics" I don't even read comics but I watch videos about them BECAUSE OF YOU. The way you articulate these plot points... it's in a way that almost makes it feel cooler than reading the damn thing itself. Dont sell yourself short man. If those videos were terrible then, then the videos you make now are actual Christopher Nolan tier.
You expect me to watch a Comic Video at 11:30 PM? HELL YEAH LET’S DO IT
Banger of a video as always my dude, this makes me want you to do a video on the first couple arcs of invincible because I feel that they have a good contrast to ultimate spiderman in the same way a spawn video would be good in contrast your venom video. That's just my image bias tho
You are my favourite comics youtuber, top tier content
I think it's not an exaggeration to say that if Spider-Man: Chapter One had been as successful as Ultimate Spider-Man eventually was, we'd be living in a very different world regarding comic books.😮
I shall enjoy this video my favorite showing of the character
Been WAITIN for this
I'm liking this new one video a month schedule
I love the Ultimate Spider-Man series SO MUCH but that volume 1 art is really weird looking with the giant eyes.
i love spiderman
Also I love your videos man genuinely thank you
love the work you put into the vids man. keep it up
I just finished Peter's story in the Ultimate Universe, and I'm about to start reading it again before reading Miles Morales. The biggest complaint that I have with it is just how sudden stuff like his death or the Ultimatum event are. I loved the Spider-Man Ultimatum stories, but then going to the next issue and the timeskip and his fling with Gwen just really threw me off (Not complaining about the style change though, I LOVED that artstyle). I just wish Bendis was given/had taken more time to let Peter grow up just a bit. Give us some new stories with him going to college or something, but that's not what we got. Now with his ressurection and immortality, I don't even want to get that far into the Miles story, I mostly want to see what happens with Jessica, Gwen, MJ, and Aunt May. Either way, the original run is my favorite version of Peter, and I'm going to read the Spectacular run next.
Ultimate spiderman was my first full comic series I've ever read as an adult and I love and hated it. I've moved onto superior spiderman but it was actually your videos that inspired me to get back into reading comics. It was really cool to see it come full circle with you going over ultimate spiderman. Hope you keep making great content. I love your comic book breakdowns more than a lot of other peoples on youtube.
It's funny you call it older terrible video, when it's the video I discovered you with and have been watching your content ever since.
To me it was a great video, and you have only improved since.
Keep up the good work.
thank you Alex for this very cool and awesome video
Hell yeah this is gonna be another great video. You never miss with these Spider-Man vids
OH YEAH J WHEN I OPENED UA-cam TO PUT SOMETHING ON SO I CAN FOLD CLOTHES ALEX LENNIN COMES IN CLUTCH ❤❤❤
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Another great video from Alex 🎉
Always a good day when almighty Alex uploads about his profile picture.
I, personally, think Ultimate MJ was a terrible character. She never get over her jealousy. She jealous when Peter finds Gwen attractive, she's jealous and beakes up with him when she moves into his house, she get really jealous of Kitty and Peter during the Morbious arc, like, MJ! he broke up with you! Get over it!. I don't think Peter realized how much of an a**hole MJ is. Sured, Peter might not be much better, but Kitty still loved him throughout the entire sereies. She never once left his side nor stopped loving him. The one time MJ seems to get over her jealousy is when she thinks Peter and Kitty are getting back together. I found Ultimate MJ insanly annoying and a jealous a**hole. She seemed to care about Peter, but was jelaous no matter what the situation was. I didn't like Ultimate MJ and she really brought the series down for me. I'm able to look past all the MJ stuff, though. I still think Ultimate Spider-Man is the best comic run and maybe the best comic series I've read from Marvel. I mean, it was the only reason Ultimate Marvel lasted as long as it did.
Give that they were teenagers I gave her a pass and maybe because how crap her Dad was , some of that rubbed off on her.
@@dcamaag709 not an excuse for bad writing.
…she’s a teenage girl and her on again off again boyfriend is regularly distant or almost dying…
@@mallinzmina3232 I still thought that MJ was a trash character. The teenage excuse is a week one. She got such poor writing.
@@dcamaag709 That's a bad excuse. She still loved Peter with strings attached, and Kitty and even Gwen to an extent didn't. And Peter is supposed to be the one male that treats her right, so I can't give her a pass for that either.