Watch Before You Buy an ATV in 2023 CFMOTO Can-am Honda Polaris..
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- Опубліковано 22 січ 2023
- What is the best ATV for you in 2023? Are you in the market for a 2023 CFMOTO CFORCE or Canam Outlander, Polaris Sportsman, Honda Foreman, Yamaha Grizzly or Kawasaki Brute Force? We'll watch this video 1st and maybe it will help you to make a smart decision especially with this economy. We will discuss the prices and quality of the units with the features that are included. The 2023 ATV lineup is pretty solid.. there is something for everyone.. This video will help those that are good stewards with their money and are on a budget and want to be wise with their investments
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Just bought the CF Moto Overlander 2022, Really nice machine and the ride compared to the Brute Force is night and day. At this point very pleased with the product and happy to have saved 5 grand. I am sure the future holds another CF Moto for the family.
I'm brand new at shopping for one of these. Much appreciated for making this video boys!
Happy to help!
I was at a boat/atv show yesterday- and they had a can am 650. I sat on it, checked it out pretty close- but honestly I just couldn’t for the life of me work out how it cost DOUBLE what my cforce 500 was. I’ve only had my 500 (gen 2) for six months but I can confirm that I have absolutely ZERO regrets.
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Sitting on it is far different than driving it... Besides my cforce 600 touring having constant issues, the power was not there
@@keiththesquirrel , BUT TWICE THE PRICE? ARE ANY OF THESE MACHINES WITHOUT ISSUES?
All I can say is good luck to you.. I tried it.. Under powered, and nothing but issues..
@@paulkendrick69 after my experience I would happily pay twice as much to have a machine that runs and didn't break down every trip out..
Great video boys ❤
You guys shipping to Canada?
i would really like to see you guys do a gen2 400 build. it seems to me the majority of the market goes after the 4-500cc machines. i would love to see if you guys can make the 400 a true budget mud machine like the outlander 450 used to be.
Will be get a cforce 800xc and a zforce 950 by summer time great info great video alot of good information!
That’s awesome and thank you!!
The new Arctic Cat Alterra is a great atv. New chassis and engine. Bought my wife a 2023 Arctic Cat 600 limited. Will probably add a cforce 1000 overland to the stable next.
Last year I bought a polaris sportsman 570 trail. My buddy bought the overland. He paid the same price and got a lot more bang for the buck. The polaris looks the best IMO. When I got my 850 this year I did polaris again mostly because I like the looks of them more than the rest. Cfmoto would absolutely be my 2nd choice.
Right, and why would you buy another 2 years later. Because your first kept on breaking down or because you love to waste money?
I’m getting a used atv. What you think about a 21 bass tracker 570? Or Polaris 570? Is the bass similar to cfmoto?
I rode the 500 and it's a Cadillac. Just unbelievable how comfortable and rugged they are. Nice quads.
Yes sir they truly are great
Do you guys have a comparison video for the CF Moto CForce 600 and 800? I am so stuck on which one to get. Waiting on the 23’s to arrive at my local dealer. I live in upper NY just north of Buffalo. Using for plowing my driveway when it snows but also for hunting property and foodplots have not desire to mud it. I hear conflicting stories, some say the 600 will do just fine and I should save the extra cash yet others say the 800....any thoughts from anyone?? Thanks for this video also!
I had a Polaris 500 year 2000 sportsman loved it easy to work on it could go around 55mph plenty of speed for me. Now I have a Polaris sportsman 455 1999 diesel it’s slow and loud about 30 mph still enough speed to get me down the trail but lots of torque. Wouldn’t trade it for these new Polaris ATVs tried a Cforce 1000 I liked it a lot had great options just wished it had can-am power.
Interesting. FYI my 2010 Arctic Cat 550 trv was still 2k more then the 500. Great job y'all. 👍👍👍👍👍
My 1996 454 was $6400!
I've owned a lot of 4 wheelers and I'm amazed by CFMOTO quality For the price. I believe CFMOTO will stand up as well as any of these other bikes. One thing I do hate about all new bikes They're getting carried away with the electronics. I would much rather be able to shift my bike into 4 wheel drive manually Instead of a little servo motor that will eventually fail because they all do.
Im just looking for something to ride. Not a sportsman not a off road person. Any1 what do you recommend?
Glad I got a white CForce 600 touring for 2022. They only used white 1 year only. They added black for 2023
That’s right! You got a unique color! I like the white
My brother bought a 420 rancher from y'all a few years ago and he keeps telling me to go there to get the 4 wheeler im fixin to buy and this video made me sub to your channel hope to see you next week headed to florence alabama on saturday for the week
That’s awesome brother!!! I hope I get to meet ya
@RealTalkPowersports be in there most likely Monday you can't miss me ill be yhe best looking fat guy wit an ahmish goatee Grey in color lmao
Would really like to see CF update the power on the 800 and 1000. The 800 only makes what the can am 650 makes and the 1000 only makes 850 power. That said, they are probably so understressed they'll run a long time. But really to go out and ride you only need a 400 or 500. When I started riding the biggest machine you could buy was a sportsman 500. I had an AC 454 and it had more than enough power to get yourself into trouble and probably only made 30hp. I dont remember ever throwing my leg over a machine and not having fun, Blaster 200, Recon 250, fortrax 300, Warrior 350, Moto 4, and on and on. All small machines that were a blast to rip around on.
Are you saying 63hp on the cforce 850 XC is not enough for you?
@@bbmatfreddy I'm saying if you cross shop a 63 hp CF moto that weighs 1,000 lbs and a 78 hp Canam thats 200 lbs lighter one might decide the extra couple grand is worth it.
@@TheNotimprezed yeah, if you are a career racer or seriously into competing. Otherwise it's a completely moot point. There are multiple good reasons why the 800xc is heavier and that has to do with the type and number components present. Name the exact models to compare and we can get started and go into each component starting with the winch, shocks,...
@@bbmatfreddy did you even read my entire comment? Miss the part about a 400 or 500, 30hp and sub machines are a blast? (Largely because they are light) But the expectation when shopping the 800/1000 class (or any class) is competitive to other options.
@@TheNotimprezed which it entirely is. There are multiple drag race videos out that compare a cforce 800xc with a comparable machine from Polaris or canam. Canam and Polaris ever so slightly win, mostly because of the weight difference. The speed difference was negligible. It's completely irrelevant what model number it is. What matters is what you get dollar for dollar. And cfmoto by far outpace Polaris and canam still today with much better stock shocks, power steering, better wheels and tires, winch, and multiple accessories. It's a stupid argument to say "oh man, how come the cforce 800 only has as much power as a canam 600". Compare machines that cost the same and then compare. That's how you gauge value.
Heres the thing that you forgot to say about can am you get amazing customer service and idk if thats just here were i live but so far with my 2018 outlander every time i had a slight issue with it i just sent it them them and they got it done
I bought my CanAm 650 XTP (2up) in 2019, new, and paid $11k. I'm located in Fresno, CA, and chose CanAm because of the v-twin, torque and dealer network. The closest CFMoto dealer was Sacramento, CA which was 3 hours away. I've rode with some CFMoto guys and when it comes to climbing steep hills and mountains because that's most of the terrain around here, I noticed they tend to rev high in rpm. You get a lot of extras with CFmoto for the price but when it comes to finding a dealer for warranty and maintenance, it's very limited. Once the dealer network expands, I see CFMoto increasing its prices. Nothing wrong with CFMoto I'd buy one if the network was more abundant around here. Love the videos, Blake keep it up. 👍 👍
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Thanks Blake 💪
I myself got a 2012 honda foreman 500 and my neighbor gots a new 2021 foreman 520 both foot shift I got to say the newer one definitely feels more comfortable but speed and acceleration feels exactly the same
Nice Video!!!
Cfmoto is definitely impressive.
The best of all the worlds!!!
That is right bro
Great video.
Thanks!
i ordered the brand new redesigned can am outlander a few days back.the dealer network for CF Moto in central British Columbia is too spread out for me to get parts/service or i would be sitting on a 600.i hear nothing but good things about the brand.
KQ is your best bang for buck IMO if you consider performance and reliability, can't say I trust CFmoto longterm
The Suzuki king quad is the best built and most reliable atv out there. Has been for years. Sure they may not be over the top fancy or flashy. But they simply get it done year after year after year.
Why does it cost more for the camo??
I have the Rubicon 520 and a Rancher 420. Stock there was almost no speed difference in the two. The gearing on the 520 is too low for the stock tires. Going up a tire size put the rubicon where it was a hair faster but basically depended on rider wieght. Then I put a hmf exhast and a power commander on the rubicon with the extra o2 sensor and I tuned it and now it pulls away from the rancher but not by a huge amount. In retrospect unless you are doing deep mud that requires a front locker the rancher is the best value. Both bikes sip gas and run longer than any of our friends on the trail. Neither bike has broken down on the trails. We get to the end at the same time as everyone else so big bore or twin isn't necessary other than the thrill factor. Maintenace basically is topping the fuel off and changing the oil/filter while my buddies with their bikes are changing belts and messing with clutches and such. Our yamaha wolverine x2 sxs has been reliable so far as well so my experience is I can trust those two brands. I would look at CFmoto before a polaris/kawasaki/canam/suzuki/artic cat though.
Great information here! I appreciate your comment
I agree with you. Honda first but if they don’t have the new RnD features you want go Yamaha.
@@ryanolep1078 I did end up adding a Grizzly 700 SE this year. I have to say the Grizzly is a superior ride. Much more plush suspension, the power is night and day over the 520, the smoothness of the cvt is great. I do still have a soft spot for my Hondas but given the choice I would take the Grizzly every time for trail riding. Maybe I would take the Honda if I was expecting water crossing or having to tow or work the bike. The only downside to the Griz so far is the slight whine of the cvt. I get annoyed quick with noises like that but I just pop in some ear plugs when I ride and have no problems after that.
I just ran out to the CF Moto’s last week on UA-cam the first video I watched the guy just sold his Polaris UTV Then he went and bought a CF Moto anyone a shows like the storage electronics on them and everything and it comes with for the money no brainer and then because I was wondering which engine who makes it and he brought up KTM dirtbike company that was out years ago and he KTM in the CF Moto are the same companies and it has a Kawasaki engine and I’m not gonna lie like the Kawasaki side-by-side I never really cared for the way those machines look I don’t watching more videos than I watch on the other day two guys riding and they had a Can-Am 1000 and the CF Moto 1000 and the guy who are the CF Moto was telling his buddy how nice the CF Moto drove and they switched on the video totally agreed he was amazed how great these machines Road handled everything he said it’s crazy like what you get for the money that company definitely listen to the customers feedback about storage and they nailed it with the prices and I’m sure next few years they’re really gonna be taking off now from what I see I have a Lotta different machines different sizes do you know some people complain about this and this and that but this is how people are I bought a John Deere gator 2016 825 i 2016 is one side by side start really taken off I believe that’s when I really started now they are all over the place
I like the video guys, like you, I am an enthusiast.
My first love is Honda, the old Honda. I still own several Honda ATCs including a pair of 1985 ATC250r, a pair of ATC350x and others. Ill never get rid of them.
That said, Honda as well as the other Japanese brands are a mere shadow of their former selves in terms of ATVs. Their product lines are stale and outdated. Polaris and Can-Am are clearly the top movers and shakers in the market with their wide array of trims and configurations they offer with each model.
CF Moto is definitely an up and comer though. I see tons of them on the trails I ride in northern NYS. I welcome more market choices, that is good for all of us.
One thing I must point out, while CF Moto definitely wins the "bang for your buck" category, they really arent on par with Polaris and Can-Am comapring eaual displacement engines. The CF Moto 1000 just edges out Polaris and Can-Am 850s in HP, coming in 11hp short of the Can-Am 1000 and 9hp short of Polaris 1000. BUT, the CF Moto 1000 is still cheaper than most Polaris and Can-Am 850, so there IS value in that.
Im interested to know more facts about CF Moto. Are they in fact a Chinese company? If so, that would go along way in explaining the significant price difference from the other two brands.
All said and done, i just signed papers on a brand new 2023 Can-Am Outlander XT-P Max 1000r. 😊
Has anyone rolled an 800xc or 1000? Bought an XC last year, dreading the day I may roll it and have to ditch the machine. The weight of the machine is much heavier than a 400-600 that takes rollovers easier. What’s the damage like?..
I rolled mine on pavement a couple Weeks ago. Threw me off and away from the machine. It bent the bars slightly and scratched my plastic. They're very tough.
I have went shopping for these in the past and I'm in the market again they may say a certain price but before you leave that dealership you're paying a lot of extra. And also it's hard to buy something on a recommendation on UA-cam especially a channel that is been going as long as yours. It's easy to push a product when you're probably getting help from the dealership or CF Moto because you change out machines quite often before they ever have a chance to break if you do break it's from riding pretty hard I sold a Honda 520 that I rode hard kept the fluids changed made sure it stayed clean but it definitely didn't have an easy life. 3 years old and I got almost my total price back on it I never put a part on it except oil and air filters
The winches I have looked at on the dealer floor models seems very cheap and of course there's always you have to put a clutch kit in a new machine just to get the pull worth a darn down low. Then there's the problem with the front bushings trust me I have studied the CF Moto Facebook sites and have seen the complaints and it's far more than one complaint so they do come good price and it gets a rider on the trail but there's just too many what if this might break questions
Wish you could see the prices in Canada, 2023 cforce 400 eps LX 7899, 2023 outlander 450 7999, 20 23 polaris 450 HO 8499, Cforce 1000eps 2up 16000 before taxes and every thing else.
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I'm trying to buy something and the prices are making me cry. Not to mention trying to find someone with something in stock. I found a used 800 with like 150KMs on it for a decent price and someone bought it in the time it took me to drive to the dealer to check it out. Leaning towards just buying new and crying once but having full warranty.
@@awstott if you want something order it. That's what I do when there's nothing in the show room.
I ride a 2021 520 rubicon at work all the time.
It’s great “go slow machine”.
I’m sure it’s got long term durability blah blah.
But holy heck…… SLOW!!!!
You’ll be beating the guts out of it to get 45mph.
Anything over 40mph and you’re pinned to the bar.
I have always said the slower you have to go the more you would like the Honda.
Yes sir that’s true.. it’s a solid atv though. But not the best for recreational riding
Which brand is the easiest to do basic maintenance in your opinion?
Basic routine maintenance on all of them are relatively easy to do on all of them such as service the oil and air filter.
I was a Polaris guy I own a 2020 sportsman 570 I was going to get a highlifter 850 but after watching your channel I decided to get a 21 zforce 800 trail I’m definitely happy with it I also picked up 2018 cforce 400 last month as well happy with both only thing I can say that would be nice if there was a little more aftermarket options for the zforce 800 trails but now that the gen 2 is out that’s highly unlikely lol im definitely considering trading my 570 & 400 in on uforce 600 or 1000 later this year I plan on meeting y’all here in Texas at mud nationals!
Will cfmoto ever make a smaller version like a quad in the 800 850 1000?? Would love to have one!!
I wish they would too
@Real Talk Powersports I want to shut all the can-am/polaris/Honda/riders up!!!
2023 Polaris sportsman 450 ho has powersteering for baseline price.
I work at a powersports dealing with all brands for four wheeler cf motos seem to be the least reliable we have 2 in rn that needs a new motor there wiring harness isn’t very good which causes problems.
Honda is the Way!
What is the 2023 cforce 500 release date?
Should be anytime now.. but there aren’t any significant changes between them and the 2022 model
Argo xplorer xrt 1000 LE $15,999 CDN + tax on sale for $11,000 + tax with free 3 year warranty and free winch. Would you buy one?
I don’t have any personal experience with one.. I can’t give a honest opinion about it
Honda and Can am all day!!
Baller 🤑
Honda, "weak"? Your crazy man, Honda is awesome
This issue is long term reliability, parts, service, how will they stand up. Honda seems like the only really durable machine. Even compared with Polaris. Anyone chime in on their CF Moto ve Honda after 5-10 years?
Owned a CFMoto U Force side x side. Owned nothing but polaris before that. I would not buy a CF Moto again. The quality, details and ride does not compare to Polaris. Sold it a year later and took a $1500. loss, they just dont hold their value like Polaris does. Big hit on your investment.
Can you please make a video of the CFORCE 110?
I will.. but not American dealer has them yet
@@RealTalkPowersports okay awesome thank you very much I appreciate it!
@@braydenlowe2024 thanks
@@RealTalkPowersports Your welcome I love your videos!
Great video! You really make it clear that the CFMoto machines are bargains compared to the others.
Comparing the Outlander 570 to the CForce 500 means you get a twin engine on the 570 but it's not worth $4000 more than the 500 and the 500 still has a better display and better lighting. Plus it's much easier to service than the Outlander.
I priced a top of the line Honda Rubicon last year at $10,500 and it still didn't have led lights or a winch. The CForce 500 is a MUCH better bargain and I think makes better power too.
Keep the great videos coming.
Maybe you guys would want to come to Brick's Off-road park near Poplar Bluff Mo in June? It may be gets too crazy but they have some good mud races.
Great info sir! And I agree with you!
Not only a bargain but a superior machine
Why didn't you put the king quad 500 and 750 in the price category
I honestly didn’t even think about it.. I never see them around and didn’t think about a Suzuki when making this video. I’m sorry
I have never heard of CF Moto is it a Chinese company?
Maybe it was just bad luck... But my cforce 600 had nothing but issues and was lacking on power..
Here you are again, you seem to troll every cfmoto video and comment section to piss on cfmoto for no plausible reason and make up stories that you had one, which you never had.
@@bbmatfreddy oh boy. We got a keyboard warrior... I had one. It sucked. They didn't stand behind it. So I'll let everyone know of my experience.. I don't care if you believe me or not. Your the troll.
@@keiththesquirrel oh yeah? What issues? We hear of guys like you all the time and each time they are asked to describe the issues they go all silent.
@@bbmatfreddy as explained in several other comments that I guess you haven't read.... Starter relay, front diff (2x) broken front axle. Bike was in the dealership 7 months out of the first year I owned it.. (usually waiting on parts). I'm not a troll. I had a terrible experience with the brand. And I will continue to share that experience.. They seem to be growing and one day may be side by side with other name brands.
@@keiththesquirrel what year was the quad?
Why is Suzuki not even talked about?
Problem is the reliability of the cf… you get what you pay for for sure. But you cannot compare it to Polaris, Honda, etc. and they have no torque at all in lower range.
What did you ride that gave you the impression of no torque in low?
Polaris is the number 1 reason why I now own a cfmoto. I owe polaris a huge thank you.
BLAKE CFMOTO PERIODT! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
👍 thank ya bro
Ok Cf moto battery lasted 18 months. hmmm
All batteries are junk. I've been left stranded from Kawasaki and Yamaha because of battery failures.
Can-am 850 has more power than cfmoto cforce 1000 🤔
How you recon that?
They both have the same horse power, wish cforce made their 1000s 91 hp like others. For a cheaper price.
@@RealTalkPowersports in my country the can-am 850 has 78hp and the cforce 1000 has 75hp. Maybe I expressed myself too loud.. But the power difference between can-am 850 and cforce 800 is really big. As a former fan of Cfmoto :)
Polaris power steering SUCKS. It wanders all over the faster you go. When you drive a 570 with and without, theres no comparison, DO NOT GET THE polaris EPS.
Of course the Cfmoto didn't go up in price they don't need to pay slaves
This was a long commercial for CFMoto. 😂.
I can’t bring myself to buy a Chinese made quad, I’d never ever own one. Too much stuff that comes here from China is just junk that never lasts. Time and time again, it never works out to buy the cheaper Chinese option, I’d be nervous as heck putting over 2k in someone build by the Chinese.
Buy Japanese or North American, I’d never trust a Chinese quad.
I totally agree !! I just ordered A Kawasaki T-Rex special edition at least it is built in Lincoln Nebraska but still owned buy a Japanese company , but way better quality !👍👍
where do you think the N/A,Japanese makers source half of their parts from?do you really think the components are N/A,Japanese manufactured???they may be assembled in North America but they don't manufacture most of them here.they are no different than CF Moto.
@@edwardcote1331 Anything is better than being 100% made in China!! If you want to buy 100% Chinese junk go right ahead really don’t care ! At least most of mine will be made elsewhere !
@@edwardcote1331 prove that jap bikes are running half Chinese parts.
I don’t care what people say, Chinese makes really cheap products that don’t last. They use inferior metals etc.
I have used tons of Chinese products and they just don’t hold up. Put Chinese wheel bearings in your car and see how long they last, I can go on and on.
Chinese must make some quality stuff or their personal stuff would be breaking down left and right but that quality stuff doesn’t come to USA on a boat, only the cheap crap does so it can compete with domestic companies, 4000 miles away.
Edit: 6500 miles away….
Sorry, you lost me when CF Moto came up.
It's a shame that cfmoto doesn't give more color choices on the 1000 overland especially since the 800 and the 1000 have basically the same body panels.
The CFMoto is an ok machine. My neighbor has one and it's comparable to my Polaris and Honda. He had another Chinese atv he couldn't get parts for but with CFMoto being one of if not the largest atv seller in the world I would hope he doesn't have that problem with this one. My biggest problem is if I quit wearing underwear because I couldn't find any not made in China why would I send them $6000 dollars for an atv when there are used ones that aren't made by the Chinese Communist Party, which when you're doing business with Chinese firms your ultimately doing business with them?
You post your comment via your Chinese made phone or your Chinese made laptop ? You watch any of these videos on your Chinese made television ?
Your polaris has a ton of China all over it lmfao aside from half the shit in your house as well. I have 3 cfmoto dealers within 40 miles of me and they are loaded up with spare parts and prices are on point. Matter of fact basically every can am /polaris dealer around here seems to be a cf motto dealer. So the whole dealer network thing is coming together pretty damn great since it took can am and polaris decades to do what cf did in 5 yrs around here dealer wise 😂
Don't buy their junk and do try thinking you can take to be fixed for same problem they broke clips and clamps my gas leaks down where the air filter should be
Hate to waste money on shit quality = cfmoto
The c stands for communism