I personally use both of these systems,like them both ! Neither bottles can be put on heat/fire ! My 32oz nalgene nest in my Maxpedition 10x4 pouch with the cup on top not the bottom, works great ! The military canteen setup is all standard issue ! NOT cheap imported junk ! I also use a 20+ year old Esbit stove and a MSR Pocket Rocket stove,both work great and I use these only when no campfire is made ! I try to conserve as much fuel as possible ! Thanks for posting
Back when I was in the Scouts, we built something called a "buddy stove", used with a "buddy burner", which was a tuna can with a narrow roll of corrugated cardboard that had wav poured over it. The stove was a coffee can with air holes notched in it under the top lid with a can opener (the punch kind) and a door cut into the side with the bottom taken off the can. It would also burn sticks and even a single briquet of charcoal. I've stocked several of those in my Bug In kit.
I used a lot of Nalgene bottles and then finally broke down and bought a Klean Kanteen 40 oz wide mouth. It also works with the MSR filter. I will never go back to plastic. Great video!
Hi! Good thing with the US Canteen and cup system is you can put sutff un the pouch. I use to bend an Ikea spoon an she rides pretty snugly on the "shoulder" of the canteen, the handle being in the back in diagonal. Having an esbit tablet stove is cool too, you can use it to burn tabs, gel, meths in a tea candle or just a holder for a wood twigs fire. You can even use 2 esbit supports with a trangia meths burner to cook with a pan: just lean them on the side, the burner nested in the "box".
Really enjoyed the video and the collection of ideas that you have gathered together. Definitely something that I need to look further into now. Thanks.
I use both. The canteen is my cook/water carrier, and I use the nalgeen bottle to store and measure dry foods like rice, beans and oats. The nesting cup I use as a "dirty" cup to dip water prior to purification.
Condor outdoor makes a mollee pouch that the Nalgene bottle and the canteen cup that goes around it can fit into. It's pretty nice on its own, or on one's tac vest. The pouch has D rings which one can attach a sling to or some cord and carry it that way, that's generally how I have mine while I'm hiking so that I have quick access to my water. I generally don't wear any tac vests or anything while hiking so as to not be provocative, I just shove my mags and normal tac vest items in my jacket and pouches on my ruck's straps.
I never understood why people are so anxious to have a cup on their water bottle. I never needed the cup when I wanted to drink from the water bottle, not in the military, not in civilian use. It bugs me to pull the cup out every time I want to drink from the bottle. I need the cup when I heat water/food so I need the cup together with my stove therefore I carry my stove in the cup and leave the bottle alone.
Those stainless cups are great. I used your idea of the nalgene bottle fitting into them for my bob's. They are about $5-6 at Wal-mart. Great cups. I use them on weekly backpacking trips. An ultra-lighter would argue for the titanium, but at about 5 times the price
Several companies out there that make water bottle sleeves and holders. I have a pair of 48oz Nalgenes (about one and a half 32oz bottles tall) and I have really high quality insulating sleeves with leak proof YKK zipper lid. Outer shell is heavy duty nylon, lid and bottom are thick rubber so you can set it down anywhere and not worry about the ground tearing through. And they come with long, 2in wide, full velcro straps for securing to the belt, packs, etc. But yeah, you can find many other companies as others have posted.
Survive2day; I wish you had done a weight comparison between the Canteen and cup vs the Nalgene bottle and Glacier cup. I think the Nalgene and glacier cup are the better option than the canteen and cup. Because the glacier cup holds 18 OZs. Just right for rehydrating a Mountain House freeze dried meal and extra room for the 16 OZs to boil without boiling over. FYI Sterno only puts out about 5,000 BTUs where denatured alcohol puts our more than 10,000 BTUs so an alcohol stove is much better than using Sterno. Sterno can get two cups water to 150 degrees or so but not boil. Some alcohol stoves like the BIOS, Super Cat, BS 1.0, Gram Weenie, Topsy Turvy, etc can boil two cups of water in 5-6 minutes, and use 30 ml of denatured alcohol or less.
Great review. I've come full circle with water carrying and stoves. From low end, to high, and back down again. It seems that I'm forever stuck trying to find a happy place between going ultra light and ultra heavy. I guess like alot of folks out there, I'll continue to be a work in progress.
Camelback and Rothco both make a water bottle pouch for around $25 that will hold the 32oz Nalgene and the steel cup similar to the issues Army canteens.
Thought I'd throw in another view. They make nalgene canteens now, designed to fit with the standard canteen cup and carrier. They're great,as you can see how much water you've got,and it doesn't hold flavors/odors like the plastic will. Add in an issue canteen cup stove (or a stainless one...look online),and you've got a complete kit in one carrier. Best of both worlds.
the lightest would be hinged v wire frame to fit full or empty can so the sterno can use other fuel. cans can be used as fire box too. thanks for the info.
Maxpedition makes what they call a 4x4 or 10x10 that fits the nalgene bottle with cup on the bottom as well has a small pouch on the outside with molli attachment points all over it.
Yes. A better, lighter, more energy dense solution is to carry 'Esbit" style solid fuel tabs and perhaps a tiny folding "stove", thought rocks, sticks or a simple groove dug inot the ground work fine. The Esbit is also a primo wood fire starter.
Nick Macleod ; tin is a metal on the periodic table with no lead in it. The Ibriks used to make Greek or Turkish coffee are copper but lined with tin. The danger is not the tin but the lead used in the solder. If you get a Progresso soup can with no line down the side where the can has been soldered together. The so called tin cans is mostly steel not tin.
the canteen cup looks like the gi speck not genuine army issue or it would have the us stamped between the two handles so it may be aluminum rather than stainless steal. if you can get the real cup it will accommodate the stove that wraps around it for storage. Also the cover helps keep the water from freezing and when dunked in water help keep it cooler in summer.
Sil-Lips (REI) work great on the stainless steel cup so you can drink hot liquids from it. Problem is, being only stainless steel and single wall, it doesn't stay hot for long. Good time to use a cozy over it.
Good video. I would like to see more of your videos more often. When I see your video in my subscription box I always look forward to watching it. Greetings from Croatia.
Having been in the Army I make it a general rule to avoid stuff that the Army uses. As a civilian I have a choice in which product to purchase, which creates competition and a better product.
OK. Here's the the real deal canteen vs. Nalgene. Nalgene used to make laboratory containers. Long before "survivalism" got conflated with "camping", mountain climbers started using Nalgene bottles BECAUSE in cold weather a normal canteen opening will quickly freeze closed, long before the rest of the water. Leading to you dieing of thirst at high altitude. A large Nalgene mouth can be chipped free of ice. Canteens carry MUCH better on your hip- and don't hurt nearly as much if you fall on it.
The only thing I don't like about the coffee can method. Is that over the long term a coffee can could start to leak at the seams, but short term it's a great idea
Good vid.The US GI canteen cups are stainless steel they just have a sandblasted finish and oh yeah gorilla brand tape all the way, i'm a firm believer in packing a good size roll of it i think it's worth it's weight in gold. I subbed you yesterday and like your vids and sensible wisdom keep them comming and thanks for your efforts.
Dave Caterbury sells a huge nesting cup on his site for it that can be cooked in rather easy, he actually sells a pathfinder stainless bottle and that big nesting cup for $35, the same price as the Guyot designs bottle by it's self but it's not as thick walled but still a good buy and a good bottle
For backpacking I love my nalgene and certainly has the filter advantage and works great on the trail and is less conspicuous. but in a survival situation, that army canteen wins for me, the us canteen has a stove component not shown in you video with the stove i can purify water if my filter fails. I like to soak my army canteens in creeks and streams and have I have notice that my water stay cool as the cover dries on hot days.
built a sterno stove set up, found that it takes a really long time to boil. best stove I've made so far was out of a jack daniels whiskey and coke aluminum bottle.
Thats true John, but you do prepare and gather the best possible equipment, tools, etc before anything right? So in the process why not go the best way!
though if you get a can of v8 juice, or other juice from the grocery store, you should be able to fit the stainless cup inside. i like to use a can opener that cuts from the side, it removes the top and leaves a clean edge where u dont have to worry about the rough sharp spots.
At sea level you just have to bring your water to a rolling boil. However if you are at altitude you have to let your water boil longer. Just google for more info.
totally agree. However I can find a GI surp. canteen set for way less money than just the Goyot stainless 32oz bottle alone. heard of a stainless Stanley 24oz on the cheap. haven't seen it in Hawaii though.
There are no "heavy chems" used in municipal water treatment systems. Chlorine is used. Same stuff that's in salt. Municipal systems treat sewage, then release it into the surface water features. They typically draw supply water from underground, then treat it. They do not recycle "brown" water into drinking water.
Nalgene makes bottle sleves that should work for nesting cups cheaper than big bottle bags. I have mine in the blue Neoprene sleeve meant only for insulation of your nalgene and I fit an entire Snow peak mini solo cook set in it with my bottle.
@BigSean1992 I think bacteria cannot live past 160degF, so if the water is boiling it has obviously passed through that point. Just a visual device in leiu of a thermometer. Maybe that's what was meant. Good vid. Lots of ideas to stuff in a condor pouch.
Could you put some cold soup or cold coffee in the Nalgene bottle and heat it up later in your GSI cup? Will the Nalgene hold the soup or coffee odor? Can you microwave foods inside the Nalgene bottle and still have no odor? Thanks
cause it if it is still 42 as i suspect the titanium to be or more and the Ozark SS is as i saw yesterday still 5 bucks that makes the TI 8 plus times as much and it dont do any better a job its only advantage is weight and to me IT AINT WORTH THE DIFFERENCE IN PRICE as im not a GRAM WEENIE so ya go look up Canterbury's ti cup an if its less than 4 saw bucks ya send me a link if not buzz off
you go look for your self hears a link y to the one that nests with the nell gean bottles the price has come down in last 30 months but still near 8x the price and only advantage is a reduction in weight and i have a 1 qt SS POT that is actually lighter in weight i diy it to a cook pot it cost me $.88 so in my extream its 39 x mote for the Titanium Pot 750ML Titanium Pot $38.95 www.selfrelianceoutfitters.com/750ml-titanium-pot/
How about putting the cup on the bottom of the Nalgene bottle, then putting the coffee can over the top...so you have a cup AND boiling vessel AND water storage. Just a suggestion.
Sterno isn't a very good solution considering its weight to btu output. The DIY stoves you referred to (I believe) are alcohol stoves. There are many designs, e.g. cat stove, open jet, pressure jet, and hoop. Zen alcohol stoves has free and easy designs (the cat (food can) stove being one of the lightest and easiest to make). Use 100% denatured alcohol or HEET. Sterno IS denat. alcohol w/ spill stop gel. You could probably carry 3x the btu's in alcohol. vs sterno for the same weight.
for the coffee can pot braided picture hanging wire works grate and can be used for many other things i keep 25 foot of it in my pack 6$ at walmart pop can alcohol stove condor h2o pouch good 20 go
@PrepnB4Y2K My personal opinion is if your in an area with a large population (and industry) it won't be safe at all to drink the water. Just prep and have enough water to last you till you make it to a safe location.
how would you separate the purified boiled water from the particulate if you didn't have another container to pour the boiling water into? If the Guyot is all you had, good luck drinking the nasty stuff that settles at the bottom of your bottle. I'll stick to my nalgene and gsi cup.
That all looks brand new...get out and use it....enjoy.......i use a tatonka cup and stainless bottle,can boil in the bottle if need be,and one of them gel stoves and shield,all fits in a maxpedition 10x4
Is the Canteen cup a little bigger than the Nalgene nesting cup? I can't tell from the video. I'm still split on deciding which one to put in my bug out bag.
OK..... with the coffee can on the bottom of the bottle take the stainless steel cup and slide it over the top now you got two containers no extra room required!!!
You must bring water to a rolling boil for 3 to 5 minutes and this will kill most water-borne microorganisms. However, prolonged boiling of small quantities of water may concentrate toxic contaminants if present. Good video though.
I've read 98.6 and listened to Cody's class several times at REI. Don't agree with putting duct tape on the Nalgene bottle. Just wrap the duct tape around a piece of cardboard and it is easy to tie some cord to the top of the Nalgene. I like to be able to put my Nalgene in the dishwasher when it gets dirty. Check out the Snow Peak Hotlips ot keep from burning your lips when heating water for coffee.
your sterno pot stand could be made from a tuna can, they have a good fit with sterno. BUT STERNO WILL NOT BOIL, maybe a hobo stove from your nesting can would be a good option. i saw you do have a water filter so boiling may not be as much of a concern
'Sterno' .. have never used it. Alcohol-based Gel Fuel (Sicherheitsbrennpaste) DOES boil water. I use it all the time. Where I live, easier to source and cheaper than the Debit Tabs.
I'm not sure where you got the idea that water only needs to hit 160 degrees for purification. The guiding wisdom has ALWAYS been boiling for at least 1 minute (3-5 is usually better). "Big bubbles, no troubles!"
stuponfucious7 That's the temperature needed to pasteurize raw cows milk. Water like milk, needs to be pasteurized to make it safe to drink. Since people usually don't carry a way to measure water temperature, boiling is a visual signal that the water has been heated beyond the temperature needed to "pasteurize" it. Holding for 1 minute is fine at lower altitudes & 3 at higher altitudes. When heat sources and water are plentiful it's not an issue to extend boil times. When fuel (alcohol for ex.) and/or water is in short supply, boil time can be critical. Conserve fuel and/or reduce amount of water lost as steam.
I personally use both of these systems,like them both ! Neither bottles can be put on heat/fire ! My 32oz nalgene nest in my Maxpedition 10x4 pouch with the cup on top not the bottom, works great ! The military canteen setup is all standard issue ! NOT cheap imported junk ! I also use a 20+ year old Esbit stove and a MSR Pocket Rocket stove,both work great and I use these only when no campfire is made ! I try to conserve as much fuel as possible ! Thanks for posting
Back when I was in the Scouts, we built something called a "buddy stove", used with a "buddy burner", which was a tuna can with a narrow roll of corrugated cardboard that had wav poured over it. The stove was a coffee can with air holes notched in it under the top lid with a can opener (the punch kind) and a door cut into the side with the bottom taken off the can. It would also burn sticks and even a single briquet of charcoal. I've stocked several of those in my Bug In kit.
I used a lot of Nalgene bottles and then finally broke down and bought a Klean Kanteen 40 oz wide mouth. It also works with the MSR filter. I will never go back to plastic.
Great video!
Hi!
Good thing with the US Canteen and cup system is you can put sutff un the pouch. I use to bend an Ikea spoon an she rides pretty snugly on the "shoulder" of the canteen, the handle being in the back in diagonal. Having an esbit tablet stove is cool too, you can use it to burn tabs, gel, meths in a tea candle or just a holder for a wood twigs fire. You can even use 2 esbit supports with a trangia meths burner to cook with a pan: just lean them on the side, the burner nested in the "box".
Really enjoyed the video and the collection of ideas that you have gathered together. Definitely something that I need to look further into now. Thanks.
I use both. The canteen is my cook/water carrier, and I use the nalgeen bottle to store and measure dry foods like rice, beans and oats. The nesting cup I use as a "dirty" cup to dip water prior to purification.
I've got a 32 oz. Nalgene bottle, along with that cup for it. Thanks for the tip regarding how to keep the cup attached to the bottle.
Condor outdoor makes a mollee pouch that the Nalgene bottle and the canteen cup that goes around it can fit into. It's pretty nice on its own, or on one's tac vest. The pouch has D rings which one can attach a sling to or some cord and carry it that way, that's generally how I have mine while I'm hiking so that I have quick access to my water.
I generally don't wear any tac vests or anything while hiking so as to not be provocative, I just shove my mags and normal tac vest items in my jacket and pouches on my ruck's straps.
I never understood why people are so anxious to have a cup on their water bottle. I never needed the cup when I wanted to drink from the water bottle, not in the military, not in civilian use. It bugs me to pull the cup out every time I want to drink from the bottle. I need the cup when I heat water/food so I need the cup together with my stove therefore I carry my stove in the cup and leave the bottle alone.
I agree, I have a mini Trangia, and it can not be beat for hiking and survival.
us issue canteen cup is stainless steel. It has been media blasted to provide a dull finish for using in the field.
Those stainless cups are great. I used your idea of the nalgene bottle fitting into them for my bob's. They are about $5-6 at Wal-mart. Great cups. I use them on weekly backpacking trips. An ultra-lighter would argue for the titanium, but at about 5 times the price
Several companies out there that make water bottle sleeves and holders. I have a pair of 48oz Nalgenes (about one and a half 32oz bottles tall) and I have really high quality insulating sleeves with leak proof YKK zipper lid. Outer shell is heavy duty nylon, lid and bottom are thick rubber so you can set it down anywhere and not worry about the ground tearing through. And they come with long, 2in wide, full velcro straps for securing to the belt, packs, etc. But yeah, you can find many other companies as others have posted.
Survive2day; I wish you had done a weight comparison between the Canteen and cup vs the Nalgene bottle and Glacier cup.
I think the Nalgene and glacier cup are the better option than the canteen and cup. Because the glacier cup holds 18 OZs. Just right for rehydrating a Mountain House freeze dried meal and extra room for the 16 OZs to boil without boiling over.
FYI Sterno only puts out about 5,000 BTUs where denatured alcohol puts our more than 10,000 BTUs so an alcohol stove is much better than using Sterno. Sterno can get two cups water to 150 degrees or so but not boil. Some alcohol stoves like the BIOS, Super Cat, BS 1.0, Gram Weenie, Topsy Turvy, etc can boil two cups of water in 5-6 minutes, and use 30 ml of denatured alcohol or less.
Yes, and the "Sil-Lips" do double duty as a hot pot holder to get your cup off the fire with the contents intact.
HSGI makes a nalgene pouch, it's very high quality and I highly recommend doing business with them.
Great review. I've come full circle with water carrying and stoves. From low end, to high, and back down again. It seems that I'm forever stuck trying to find a happy place between going ultra light and ultra heavy. I guess like alot of folks out there, I'll continue to be a work in progress.
Camelback and Rothco both make a water bottle pouch for around $25 that will hold the 32oz Nalgene and the steel cup similar to the issues Army canteens.
Thought I'd throw in another view. They make nalgene canteens now, designed to fit with the standard canteen cup and carrier. They're great,as you can see how much water you've got,and it doesn't hold flavors/odors like the plastic will. Add in an issue canteen cup stove (or a stainless one...look online),and you've got a complete kit in one carrier. Best of both worlds.
the lightest would be hinged v wire frame to fit full or empty can so the sterno can use other fuel. cans can be used as fire box too.
thanks for the info.
Maxpedition makes what they call a 4x4 or 10x10 that fits the nalgene bottle with cup on the bottom as well has a small pouch on the outside with molli attachment points all over it.
Yes. A better, lighter, more energy dense solution is to carry 'Esbit" style solid fuel tabs and perhaps a tiny folding "stove", thought rocks, sticks or a simple groove dug inot the ground work fine. The Esbit is also a primo wood fire starter.
you can also add fishing line wrapped around it and use it as a hand reel.
Nick Macleod ; tin is a metal on the periodic table with no lead in it. The Ibriks used to make Greek or Turkish coffee are copper but lined with tin.
The danger is not the tin but the lead used in the solder.
If you get a Progresso soup can with no line down the side where the can has been soldered together.
The so called tin cans is mostly steel not tin.
MatoNupai nice info I never heard that but very helpful
Maxpedition makes a nice carrier with a side pouch that is designed for a 32 oz bottle & nesting cup. Pricey but nice.
That bottle and cup for perfectly into the Condor H20 pouch.
the canteen cup looks like the gi speck not genuine army issue or it would have the us stamped between the two handles so it may be aluminum rather than stainless steal. if you can get the real cup it will accommodate the stove that wraps around it for storage. Also the cover helps keep the water from freezing and when dunked in water help keep it cooler in summer.
Sil-Lips (REI) work great on the stainless steel cup so you can drink hot liquids from it. Problem is, being only stainless steel and single wall, it doesn't stay hot for long. Good time to use a cozy over it.
Good video. I would like to see more of your videos more often.
When I see your video in my subscription box I always look forward to watching it.
Greetings from Croatia.
Another great review. Thank you. Now to only find an old coffee can.
Having been in the Army I make it a general rule to avoid stuff that the Army uses. As a civilian I have a choice in which product to purchase, which creates competition and a better product.
funny how duct tape isnt really used for ducting
OK. Here's the the real deal canteen vs. Nalgene. Nalgene used to make laboratory containers. Long before "survivalism" got conflated with "camping", mountain climbers started using Nalgene bottles BECAUSE in cold weather a normal canteen opening will quickly freeze closed, long before the rest of the water. Leading to you dieing of thirst at high altitude. A large Nalgene mouth can be chipped free of ice. Canteens carry MUCH better on your hip- and don't hurt nearly as much if you fall on it.
The only thing I don't like about the coffee can method. Is that over the long term a coffee can could start to leak at the seams, but short term it's a great idea
Good vid.The US GI canteen cups are stainless steel they just have a sandblasted finish and oh yeah gorilla brand tape all the way, i'm a firm believer in packing a good size roll of it i think it's worth it's weight in gold. I subbed you yesterday and like your vids and sensible wisdom keep them comming and thanks for your efforts.
Dave Caterbury sells a huge nesting cup on his site for it that can be cooked in rather easy, he actually sells a pathfinder stainless bottle and that big nesting cup for $35, the same price as the Guyot designs bottle by it's self but it's not as thick walled but still a good buy and a good bottle
the sterno stove idea works been using one about yr. its getting worn but one a yr is worth it
He meant that at 160 it kills everything so when you have got it to a boil you have passed that mark so it can be safe.
For backpacking I love my nalgene and certainly has the filter advantage and works great on the trail and is less conspicuous. but in a survival situation, that army canteen wins for me, the us canteen has a stove component not shown in you video with the stove i can purify water if my filter fails. I like to soak my army canteens in creeks and streams and have I have notice that my water stay cool as the cover dries on hot days.
built a sterno stove set up, found that it takes a really long time to boil. best stove I've made so far was out of a jack daniels whiskey and coke aluminum bottle.
Thats true John, but you do prepare and gather the best possible equipment, tools, etc before anything right? So in the process why not go the best way!
though if you get a can of v8 juice, or other juice from the grocery store, you should be able to fit the stainless cup inside. i like to use a can opener that cuts from the side, it removes the top and leaves a clean edge where u dont have to worry about the rough sharp spots.
just made some coffee like a boss with that same setup +half a water bottle
At sea level you just have to bring your water to a rolling boil. However if you are at altitude you have to let your water boil longer. Just google for more info.
You need to check cdc on that need to bring water to a rolling boil for 1 minute. High altitudes rolling boil 3 minutes, these are minimum times.
Several companys make bags/pouches that hold Nalgene bottles with cups.
totally agree. However I can find a GI surp. canteen set for way less money than just the Goyot stainless 32oz bottle alone. heard of a stainless Stanley 24oz on the cheap. haven't seen it in Hawaii though.
There are no "heavy chems" used in municipal water treatment systems. Chlorine is used. Same stuff that's in salt. Municipal systems treat sewage, then release it into the surface water features. They typically draw supply water from underground, then treat it. They do not recycle "brown" water into drinking water.
maxpedition makes a nice carry case/sleeve for the nalgene bottles.
@79outlaw they have the Stanley stainless water bottles at Walmart for like 5 or 6 bucks. Just as good as anything you will find
Nalgene makes bottle sleves that should work for nesting cups cheaper than big bottle bags. I have mine in the blue Neoprene sleeve meant only for insulation of your nalgene and I fit an entire
Snow peak mini solo cook set in it with my bottle.
The coating inside cans contains BPA. It has been a very long time since I've seen the style can in this video. Wish I had saved them back then!
@BigSean1992 I think bacteria cannot live past 160degF, so if the water is boiling it has obviously passed through that point. Just a visual device in leiu of a thermometer. Maybe that's what was meant. Good vid. Lots of ideas to stuff in a condor pouch.
Could you put some cold soup or cold coffee in the Nalgene bottle and heat it up later in your GSI cup? Will the Nalgene hold the soup or coffee odor? Can you microwave foods inside the Nalgene bottle and still have no odor? Thanks
Some good ideas. Thanks buddy.
last i looked Canterbury ti cup was 42 bucks 8x the price of the ss cup at walmart
+embarado smithing and woodcraft You must have looked cross-eyed.
realy so how much is it now
cause it if it is still 42 as i suspect the titanium to be or more and the Ozark SS is as i saw yesterday still 5 bucks that makes the TI 8 plus times as much and it dont do any better a job its only advantage is weight and to me IT AINT WORTH THE DIFFERENCE IN PRICE as im not a GRAM WEENIE so ya go look up Canterbury's ti cup an if its less than 4 saw bucks ya send me a link if not buzz off
you go look for your self hears a link y to the one that nests with the nell gean bottles the price has come down in last 30 months but still near 8x the price and only advantage is a reduction in weight and i have a 1 qt SS POT that is actually lighter in weight i diy it to a cook pot it cost me $.88 so in my extream its 39 x mote for the Titanium Pot
750ML Titanium Pot
$38.95
www.selfrelianceoutfitters.com/750ml-titanium-pot/
and with that my accuracy rate remains at 99.9875% never question your mental superiors you'll get taken to the wood shed
How about putting the cup on the bottom of the Nalgene bottle, then putting the coffee can over the top...so you have a cup AND boiling vessel AND water storage. Just a suggestion.
Ah, perfect! Thanks for the heads up!
Sterno isn't a very good solution considering its weight to btu output. The DIY stoves you referred to (I believe) are alcohol stoves. There are many designs, e.g. cat stove, open jet, pressure jet, and hoop. Zen alcohol stoves has free and easy designs (the cat (food can) stove being one of the lightest and easiest to make). Use 100% denatured alcohol or HEET. Sterno IS denat. alcohol w/ spill stop gel. You could probably carry 3x the btu's in alcohol. vs sterno for the same weight.
You can get a titanium cup from China it takes about 30 days to get here for 20 or $25 same good quality is toaks titanium
you should cut a small slit on the lower warping of duck tape so when you remove and place the cup on there the air can escape and not create a vacuum
for the coffee can pot braided picture hanging wire works grate and can be used for many other things i keep 25 foot of it in my pack 6$ at walmart pop can alcohol stove condor h2o pouch good 20 go
@PrepnB4Y2K My personal opinion is if your in an area with a large population (and industry) it won't be safe at all to drink the water. Just prep and have enough water to last you till you make it to a safe location.
Maxpedition mini rollypolly dump pouch fits Nalgene bottle.
how would you separate the purified boiled water from the particulate if you didn't have another container to pour the boiling water into? If the Guyot is all you had, good luck drinking the nasty stuff that settles at the bottom of your bottle. I'll stick to my nalgene and gsi cup.
That all looks brand new...get out and use it....enjoy.......i use a tatonka cup and stainless bottle,can boil in the bottle if need be,and one of them gel stoves and shield,all fits in a maxpedition 10x4
great video, very informative and detailed
that army canteen cup is indeed -stainless steel..
great job
I have just boiled water in the metal bottle type canteen.
does the msr filter water into the bottle or from the bottle
hey try your cup on the bottom and your can on top of your bottle. with the tape set up like you have it now. you might have room for your fuel too,
13.00 for a cup? I looked it up-that seems a lot to me. that doesn't include shipping either
Hello. Take a look at a Sawyer mini water filter.
Is the Canteen cup a little bigger than the Nalgene nesting cup? I can't tell from the video. I'm still split on deciding which one to put in my bug out bag.
BlackOwl18E The round cup is bigger.
Great video!! -Woody
OK..... with the coffee can on the bottom of the bottle take the stainless steel cup and slide it over the top now you got two containers no extra room required!!!
Is there any chance of getting aluminium poisoning from the army canteen cup?
The condor pouch should fit that.
Great share!
U.S. MOLLE Sustainment Pouch works great for my Nalgene bottle.
nalgene makes a canteen in their material if you prefer that.
You must bring water to a rolling boil for 3 to 5 minutes and this will kill most water-borne microorganisms. However, prolonged boiling of small quantities of water may concentrate toxic contaminants if present. Good video though.
Is there a Metal version of the nalgene bottle?
I've read 98.6 and listened to Cody's class several times at REI. Don't agree with putting duct tape on the Nalgene bottle. Just wrap the duct tape around a piece of cardboard and it is easy to tie some cord to the top of the Nalgene. I like to be able to put my Nalgene in the dishwasher when it gets dirty. Check out the Snow Peak Hotlips ot keep from burning your lips when heating water for coffee.
Good info; thanks!
Hello, I want to purchase the cup fitting the Nalgene bottle but I don't find it, can you help me?
Arcangelo Panza in the camping section at Walmart. .. $5
There is no chance of aluminum poisoning from canteen cup
your sterno pot stand could be made from a tuna can, they have a good fit with sterno. BUT STERNO WILL NOT BOIL, maybe a hobo stove from your nesting can would be a good option. i saw you do have a water filter so boiling may not be as much of a concern
'Sterno' .. have never used it.
Alcohol-based Gel Fuel (Sicherheitsbrennpaste) DOES boil water.
I use it all the time. Where I live, easier to source and cheaper than the Debit Tabs.
I like having a stainless water bottle. That way you can heat in the water bottle your supply for the afternoon. The nalgene is not how I would do it.
weight is critical. could you weigh each setup please ?
good point
Thank you
Guyot 40$
Nalgene 8$
metal is awesome, but cost and weight can be an issue.
I'm not sure where you got the idea that water only needs to hit 160 degrees for purification. The guiding wisdom has ALWAYS been boiling for at least 1 minute (3-5 is usually better). "Big bubbles, no troubles!"
stuponfucious7 That's the temperature needed to pasteurize raw cows milk. Water like milk, needs to be pasteurized to make it safe to drink. Since people usually don't carry a way to measure water temperature, boiling is a visual signal that the water has been heated beyond the temperature needed to "pasteurize" it. Holding for 1 minute is fine at lower altitudes & 3 at higher altitudes. When heat sources and water are plentiful it's not an issue to extend boil times. When fuel (alcohol for ex.) and/or water is in short supply, boil time can be critical. Conserve fuel and/or reduce amount of water lost as steam.
The empty sterno can could be used as a little lantern
Good tips
Careful, the UV light could damage the plastic of the bottle.
you just had a line that kinda of implied that you were so I'm just asking
Give me a break. How many videos are you making, professor?