Genuine information: under no circumstances should you buy the "highest end" watches at 10:24 because they do NOT cost 1.5-2k USD. These ranges (thousand ranges) only come into discussion when watches have been extensively modded/frankened (genuine parts installed). Just don't want anyone spending 700 USD lol
Better off just getting Pagani Design homage watches for a fraction of the price, plus you're not wearing a fake as its not branded as more expensive watch.
Great decision… but people do not buy a Rolex for its functionality, it’s status symbol is the buyer’s priority. A genuine longines won’t get you the respect but a superclone $20,000 watch no one notices definitely may give you the respect the genuine one brings. That’s the point !! “Perception“
Great content! I think many fail to miss the local supply and demand curve. From the rep factory through known rep dealers is not the same price that you'll see in the markets. Local sellers adjust their price to meet their margin, which is in balance to local demand. The rep movements will continue to close the gap.. it's only time that the tells become less obvious.. first the blue hairspring, next the balance wheel counter weights.. then you'll see the price of superclones also go up.
Usual Chinese superclones at two or three times the price. Aaa are inferior to superclones. Clean is one of the three or four factories that make superclones. Dubai isn’t the right place if you look for superclones.
There is no need to travel to Dubai, these products actually come from the top factories in China and are actually only 1/3 of the price when you buy direct from them! Don't ask me how I know this, because I am.
You are correct. There are videos on here of jewellers in New York opening the case and finding genuine parts. A jeweller or buyer without experience of these would believe they are genuine Rolex's.
@@RJ-ez4neit’s impossible to be truly 1:1 friend, there’ll be still signs here and there that it’s a rep. Though I do agree that Clean and VS level finishing far outclasses many 1-2k genuine watches
10:02 - The prices shown on screen is a rip off sold in markets. The same watches of the exact quality can be bought indirectly from the Chinese factories (i.e. directly through trusted dealers) at a much lower price.
I recently sold a Chinese watch (Addiesdive) to a guy who came wearing a DJ Rep. I could tell it’s fake straight away. Asked him if he bought it from Turkey, he said he bought it from Dubai for around £1k 😮. It was a £130 shitter.
Very nice vid. Better avoid all these hyped watch fakes. Better aim for quieter sleepers. Found a 1969 Heuer Camaro last week with original year-stamped bracelet. And with a Valjoux 72 like the Paul Newmans. Found it at a vintage watch store that I did business with for 10 years and which is closing down and selling their stock at a discount. This kind of opportunity does not happen every day tho.
The thing is with most of these horrible fakes is they know that most people who are buying them have never actually worn a real one so have no ideas on the close details that you see when you own a real one
ZR is initial company for master replica and basic gradings as follows ZR(Master Rep) YZ (Master Rep) RX(Master Rep) AJ(Master Rep) BP (Clone) EW (Clone) CLEAN (Super Clone) NOOB(Super Clone) BT (Super Clone)
I have three SGC's, one is the Seamaster Planet Ocean Ultra Deep Titanium which has been compared alongside a genuine one, and the only difference to the eye is the colour of the titanium (mine is a SLIGHTLY darker metal). The other two SCGs are IWC and Tag Heuer. All three cost under a thousand British pounds.
Hiiiii love from India….i am a senior marine engineer…..i love watches and am passionate about the subject…..love your content……i consider myself blessed that I can afford a 6000usd omega…..i have two actually…..one is a speedmaster 40mm racing bought in 2018…..another one is a planet ocean bought last year…..2 weeks back my speedmaster suddenly stopped…..went to my authorised AD and they said it will take 4 months to overhaul and will cost about 50k INR minimum……as my speedmaster is more than 5 yrs old…..warranty is finished……I have problem with these highly expensive service charges……so now i have stopped looking into watches and definitely i will be very careful while using them……earlier i used to work wearing my speedmaster…..now i have stopped this ….will prefer wearing a Casio instead while working or using as a daily wear…….hey pal what’s your take on that?
I genuinely don’t understand people who buy fake watches it’s like you’re throwing your money away, that money gets you a genuine great watch from a respectable brand. Great video 👏🏼
No it doesn’t and true Superclones will allow you to try out the watch in look and feel before you drop 15,000 to 40,000 on a watch that might not be a good companion. Always buy a Superclone before you get the real thing, especially if a new model or brand.
13:24 - this is the VR3186 movement. Well out of date and unreliable. Watch (JDF factory made) is worth around $488. The movement should have an SH3285 which is superior than the one in the watch in video
For a fake $1000+USD Rolex clone, not only it has to have extremely exterior resemblance to the genuine one, but most importantly, the movement has to be 1:1 reverse-engineered Rolex movement clone with a blue hair spring (but not the same as the real blue spring). Unfortunately, such kind of super clone is unlikely to be found from regular street vendors. The $1200USD asking price of a so-called "super Rolex clone" in this video is at best a $400-$500 mid-range clone watch with its low-quality movement.
Yes, I don't understand why they go to so much trouble making a copy and not just put in the correct length hair spring in and get rid of the lever. Then just get it to keep time to within a minute a day.
Thank you for showing us Dragon Mart in this video, it brought back many memories of the past years. Good place to find quirky gadgets and home decor. There is a shop which sells good Quality watch Winders there starting from USD 60.00 onwards.
I wish the makers of the clones would just put their own brand on the look-alike as style homage. They could get 2 or 3 times the selling price as an honest timepiece than they do as an illegal clone attempt.
There's a place in Pattaya Thailand along the end of Soi Bukhao that has fantastic fakes! If you get 2-3 years of constant usage , you have good value for around $100. Go see Jack.
Aaa is not a superclone. End of story lol. If it doesnt have a blue hairspring, and the cheap balance assembly like all of those do, its worth $300, no more. $1800 for that submariner is nuts.
Can't understand why need to spend 1000 $ or more just for a fake watch... When I buy something, then I buy it of its quality and not just of a name only.
Yeah at least you had fun but didn't know that you kind of know a little bit more about the movement that they did but the best one to clean 3235 you can get about 6 to 700 hours max one to one copy and I get them from China where most of the major Rolex copies are made in everyone knows that anyway thanks again great video
Dragonmart dont carry superclones. There are some who are selling A grade copies for 300-400aed. Sorry to tell you this, they gave you the "whiteman" price! Haha
Guarantiedto Pick up a really good “ Fake Rolex “ watch ,for around € 60 to €90 Euro’s on most Costa Blanca coastal towns All within a couple of hours or so .Whilst just having a quiet drink in the bars & coffee cafe”s.as the summer season is in-decline ..
I have friends who went to Thailand and returned with a bag full of fake watches. They put them all in a bowl on their dining table. So the kids all got Rolex’s!
Those are just clones bro not a super clones, Ive seen some superclones the cleanest and most real as it gets, Ive seen a Presidential made of solid gold aswell with a modified eta movement inside.
If you're gonna buy a good Clone make sure you get a Silver black submariner ... Those are by far the best clones I've seen...can't tell the real from the fake ... They got it down to the T...Avoid anything Gold that is easy to tell Fake ..
Genuine information: under no circumstances should you buy the "highest end" watches at 10:24 because they do NOT cost 1.5-2k USD. These ranges (thousand ranges) only come into discussion when watches have been extensively modded/frankened (genuine parts installed). Just don't want anyone spending 700 USD lol
Better off just getting Pagani Design homage watches for a fraction of the price, plus you're not wearing a fake as its not branded as more expensive watch.
Agree, the same look and function for $75 to $100 US.
The name pagani design is just shit, rather get a steeldive. Better quality and finish
They're crap.
Grand Seiko craftsmanship at its finest ,no fortune spent just to look at time.
Omega?
ZF, CleanF, VSF for 1.500 usd to 2.000usd ?? WTF those are like 600USD at max, you need to learn more about super clones ...
I think prices are in AED
IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT HE DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING RELATED TO HIGH QUALITY FAKES SINCE HE ONLY WENT TO DRAGON MART. 😂😂
@@yobama8344 It clearly states USD, United Stated Dollar.
@@7AM- Where are the good fakes located at then?
@@7AM-this seems more like a collaborative vlog with the fake watch seller sitting in dragonmart 😂
The craftsmanship of Igrotum fake watches cant be beaten
Love the quality
Same watch at a great price
Fantastic craftsmanship
igrotum watches are superb
just like the real thing
1:39 The shoulder check from bro is wild
1200 USD for such, I rather buy Longines Master collection pre owned in 2000 USD
Great decision… but people do not buy a Rolex for its functionality, it’s status symbol is the buyer’s priority. A genuine longines won’t get you the respect but a superclone $20,000 watch no one notices definitely may give you the respect the genuine one brings. That’s the point !! “Perception“
In China the super clone only cost about 500$~650$(maxium)
$300 only in HK
Exactly as those in the video, it's not US dollar 😉
the high ernd clones costs 500-600 Dollar max.
Honestly, the watches from Igrotum are the best replicas I’ve seen
Scam
Scrotum?
Bot. Thats a scam website
Take my money....phawk that buy original
AAA or ST9 is the U1 Rolex factory (with green sticker on the back) it’s a very bad copy and cost in China something between $50 - $150
They must have had big windows on that watch shop, as they saw you coming..... $600 for super clone Sub, $800+ for a Clean Factory Daytona
Micro rotors on a fake watch is mad.
The green OP is so off. LOL
A disaster 😂
Guys just buy the fakes to use in public and keep the real ones safe at home to injoy 😊
As close as you say they are, the movements don't have Rolex stamped on them like originals!!
Have a quick Google plenty of scg do
audemanium has best quality watches
@@Red_Fox8Dont listen to him its a bot comment
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As always the most thoughtful , well researched & eloquent watch channel around , keep AMZWATCH coming !
Great content! I think many fail to miss the local supply and demand curve. From the rep factory through known rep dealers is not the same price that you'll see in the markets. Local sellers adjust their price to meet their margin, which is in balance to local demand. The rep movements will continue to close the gap.. it's only time that the tells become less obvious.. first the blue hairspring, next the balance wheel counter weights.. then you'll see the price of superclones also go up.
12:23 - did the vendor just quote him 2800 or 4800 AED? 😂😅 you can buy the VSF or CLEAN versions of the same quality for around $550!!
its just a matter of time when the "FAKES " will out do even the originals.....
The hidden etched crown at 6pm looks better on the scg than gen on some fakes
Usual Chinese superclones at two or three times the price. Aaa are inferior to superclones. Clean is one of the three or four factories that make superclones. Dubai isn’t the right place if you look for superclones.
Turkey has the good superclones
@@ezmcclure05 coming from China
what are the other factorys that make super clones?
@@teddyjohnson284 VSF, CF, BPF
@@ezmcclure05Nah, just been to Turkey and even the vendor admitted the best copies are from China.
audemanium has best watches
What's audemanium?
Where's this
@@aman2911.its a bot comment
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I bought the exact fake submariner with the date in Thailand. Cost me $20.
You picked up a clean factory Pepsi GMT at 10:05. Those are some of the best reps.
The other factories put a 'Clean' logo on their watches all the time. Doesn't mean it's from Clean.
Yes...I'm afraid this is true...clean are being copied
@@OngoGablogian185 this!!
@@keithlos1497A fake, fake 😂
@@keithlos1497 Fake for a Fake :)
I purchased a Omega in 1968 and still have it now.
Chinkshite or real?
Clean means it from clean factory that is one of the best Rolex copies factory in China, they making 1 to 1 copies
Shhhhhhh
where in China are those Clean factories? City, town, province? Thanks
Nah he means they are from zurich
Half of the vendors that sell “clean” are lying. It’s lower tier factories sticking clean factory’s label, a fake of a fake lmao
@@Colonel.B.Sanders Agree. And some of the best models are from VS anyway, so....
There is no need to travel to Dubai, these products actually come from the top factories in China and are actually only 1/3 of the price when you buy direct from them! Don't ask me how I know this, because I am.
Do you have a contact where i can buy?
The infatuation of this simple design that is so easily cloned is the biggest thorn in the swiss watch industry.
They look crazy good quality. I literally feel like going to Dubai and buying a clone. No one not even myself would know the difference.
Actual super clones have genuine movements, for vintage Rolexes at least.
You are correct. There are videos on here of jewellers in New York opening the case and finding genuine parts. A jeweller or buyer without experience of these would believe they are genuine Rolex's.
CLEAN is the factory in China in which produces those SUPER CLONES
I agree. and VSF for the Submariner. The youtuber haven't exposed to Clean and VS Factories, which are 1:1 super clones.
@@RJ-ez4neit’s impossible to be truly 1:1 friend, there’ll be still signs here and there that it’s a rep. Though I do agree that Clean and VS level finishing far outclasses many 1-2k genuine watches
@@Colonel.B.Sanders I think is more 0.95:1. Totally agree with you.
10:02 - The prices shown on screen is a rip off sold in markets. The same watches of the exact quality can be bought indirectly from the Chinese factories (i.e. directly through trusted dealers) at a much lower price.
I recently sold a Chinese watch (Addiesdive) to a guy who came wearing a DJ Rep. I could tell it’s fake straight away. Asked him if he bought it from Turkey, he said he bought it from Dubai for around £1k 😮. It was a £130 shitter.
Yeah because a guy who wear a real date just would buy addiesdive 😂😂😂😂
@@CesareRazzi he was begging me for a discount as well 🤣🤣
😅😂
@@CesareRazzi it has amazing movement
It's fact that fake Rolex watches had decreased the value of original Rolex due to very high price.
😂 def not people that buy the fake ones cannot afford real so they wouldn't be buyers anyways
these fakes def did not decrease the value of the gen....
It’s crazy how superclones are like the original that even some dealers find it hard to spot the difference
Very nice vid. Better avoid all these hyped watch fakes. Better aim for quieter sleepers. Found a 1969 Heuer Camaro last week with original year-stamped bracelet. And with a Valjoux 72 like the Paul Newmans. Found it at a vintage watch store that I did business with for 10 years and which is closing down and selling their stock at a discount. This kind of opportunity does not happen every day tho.
Incredible detective work on that Rolex, stay safe! 👍
At 3:50 the salesman was trying to open the clasp from the end. Then he figured it out. 😂
"Clean" is just a factory bro.
Warum warst du nicht auf dem Goldmarkt. Dort war ich auch in den "Nebenräumen" Die Qualität war sehr gut. Wollte auch schon fast kaufen.
richtig
The thing is with most of these horrible fakes is they know that most people who are buying them have never actually worn a real one so have no ideas on the close details that you see when you own a real one
Crazy markups for Clean, ZF and VSF
ZR is initial company for master replica and basic gradings as follows
ZR(Master Rep)
YZ (Master Rep)
RX(Master Rep)
AJ(Master Rep)
BP (Clone)
EW (Clone)
CLEAN (Super Clone)
NOOB(Super Clone)
BT (Super Clone)
Clean = clean factory , they make one of the best rolex replicas now
Do you have a link?
I have three SGC's, one is the Seamaster Planet Ocean Ultra Deep Titanium which has been compared alongside a genuine one, and the only difference to the eye is the colour of the titanium (mine is a SLIGHTLY darker metal). The other two SCGs are IWC and Tag Heuer. All three cost under a thousand British pounds.
The build quality of Igrotum fake watches is master
Clean means the factory it was manufactured in. Clean Factory makes the best clones, or 1 of the best clones.
Hiiiii love from India….i am a senior marine engineer…..i love watches and am passionate about the subject…..love your content……i consider myself blessed that I can afford a 6000usd omega…..i have two actually…..one is a speedmaster 40mm racing bought in 2018…..another one is a planet ocean bought last year…..2 weeks back my speedmaster suddenly stopped…..went to my authorised AD and they said it will take 4 months to overhaul and will cost about 50k INR minimum……as my speedmaster is more than 5 yrs old…..warranty is finished……I have problem with these highly expensive service charges……so now i have stopped looking into watches and definitely i will be very careful while using them……earlier i used to work wearing my speedmaster…..now i have stopped this ….will prefer wearing a Casio instead while working or using as a daily wear…….hey pal what’s your take on that?
nice vid man!! heard great reviews about wristova too, maybe they're worth it!!
“Clean” is the name of the Factory in China.
Clean is one of the best superclone factories. VSF is another.
LMAO!! I love watching/listening to you interact with them, hilarious !!!
xD
I genuinely don’t understand people who buy fake watches it’s like you’re throwing your money away, that money gets you a genuine great watch from a respectable brand.
Great video 👏🏼
Respectable brand like?
No it doesn’t and true Superclones will allow you to try out the watch in look and feel before you drop 15,000 to 40,000 on a watch that might not be a good companion.
Always buy a Superclone before you get the real thing, especially if a new model or brand.
I have real and clone watches I wear clones all day and real for special occasions
@@GasPipeJimmy
That doesn’t make any sense lol these superclones are not cheap so you’re paying significant amount of money just to ‘try them’
@@pauldavies917 if I was you I would’ve gotten homage watches instead of clones but that’s just me
I would be thrilled if I could find a high-end Lange clone...
13:24 - this is the VR3186 movement. Well out of date and unreliable. Watch (JDF factory made) is worth around $488. The movement should have an SH3285 which is superior than the one in the watch in video
My dude beat me to it
yea so for the highest grades you’re paying at a premium. You can get direct from the factory for $500-$800.. they earn roughly $200-$500 estimate.
For a fake $1000+USD Rolex clone, not only it has to have extremely exterior resemblance to the genuine one, but most importantly, the movement has to be 1:1 reverse-engineered Rolex movement clone with a blue hair spring (but not the same as the real blue spring). Unfortunately, such kind of super clone is unlikely to be found from regular street vendors. The $1200USD asking price of a so-called "super Rolex clone" in this video is at best a $400-$500 mid-range clone watch with its low-quality movement.
The quality of the replica watches from Igrotum is impossible to beat.
Did the warranty cards have the NFC chip?
Of course not, those are low quality copies.
Can you please do video about used vintage Swiss watches like 70' 80' 90's rolex, and do they sell parts in dubai?
Balance spring adjustment is the give away for about 1000 usd you can get one with the single adjustment adjustment
Yes, I don't understand why they go to so much trouble making a copy and not just put in the correct length hair spring in and get rid of the lever. Then just get it to keep time to within a minute a day.
Wow,they look pretty good to my eye. Ill take the Daytona
Seems easier to play the AD dance 😅😂
I bought a watch a few days ago for only $159, and the quality is quite good! If anyone's interested, I can recommend it.
Lol..Im happy with my $150 Hulk clone..keeps great time and looks good. 😂
That's not Bruce Wayne, that's Joker.
Excellent!!!
You'd be better off flying to Istanbul for the w/e . See somewhere nice and buy the best clones.
AAA is clean factory designation for tier below super clone.
These super clone worth around 400-600$, if they sell for 2k they are x3-x4 of their real value.
better to try in thailand those watch price only for 150dirhams
Thailand better than china😂😂😂
Thank you for showing us Dragon Mart in this video, it brought back many memories of the past years. Good place to find quirky gadgets and home decor. There is a shop which sells good Quality watch Winders there starting from USD 60.00 onwards.
I wish the makers of the clones would just put their own brand on the look-alike as style homage. They could get 2 or 3 times the selling price as an honest timepiece than they do as an illegal clone attempt.
There's a place in Pattaya Thailand along the end of Soi Bukhao that has fantastic fakes! If you get 2-3 years of constant usage , you have good value for around $100. Go see Jack.
Aaa is not a superclone. End of story lol. If it doesnt have a blue hairspring, and the cheap balance assembly like all of those do, its worth $300, no more. $1800 for that submariner is nuts.
the watch you see at 10 Minute AP you can get same Quality for 500€ ! never pay 2000 usd^^
Interesting video Nico….thank you for sharing! Good to know
Can't understand why need to spend 1000 $ or more just for a fake watch... When I buy something, then I buy it of its quality and not just of a name only.
How can I find one of these high quality watches
Yeah at least you had fun but didn't know that you kind of know a little bit more about the movement that they did but the best one to clean 3235 you can get about 6 to 700 hours max one to one copy and I get them from China where most of the major Rolex copies are made in everyone knows that anyway thanks again great video
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Dragonmart dont carry superclones. There are some who are selling A grade copies for 300-400aed. Sorry to tell you this, they gave you the "whiteman" price! Haha
Your videos are thee best sista 💋
These look terrible.
I was told by a dealer in China that sellers put CLEAN FACTORY stickers on crap quality so the buyer believes it’s the best 😂
Guarantiedto Pick up a really good “ Fake Rolex “ watch ,for around € 60 to €90 Euro’s on most Costa Blanca coastal towns All within a couple of hours or so .Whilst just having a quiet drink in the bars & coffee cafe”s.as the summer season is in-decline ..
I have friends who went to Thailand and returned with a bag full of fake watches. They put them all in a bowl on their dining table. So the kids all got Rolex’s!
Those are just clones bro not a super clones, Ive seen some superclones the cleanest and most real as it gets, Ive seen a Presidential made of solid gold aswell with a modified eta movement inside.
Clean is a maker/seller of super clones.
For someone who speaks like they know about superclones, seems like you dont know a lot about superclones lol
En el momento en que vi el bolso kislux , supe que tenía que tenerlo.
They are ramping up the scg prices there you can get the subs for 350 and daytonas for 700ish
Clean means made by clean factory
Is submariner (with no date) more expensive?
they let u record?
I think the more complex to watch the harder it is to clone
kislux versace bag is so cute
Are there any penalties for selling fake watches?
Which place in Dubai is this?
What do people think about Geektime watches?
If you're gonna buy a good Clone make sure you get a Silver black submariner ... Those are by far the best clones I've seen...can't tell the real from the fake ... They got it down to the T...Avoid anything Gold that is easy to tell Fake ..
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