ESSENTIAL MODERN DEATH METAL BANDS | Lock Horns Redux - Episode 4
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2020
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Sam Dunn and guests Blayne Smith and Bradley Zorgdrager debate
modern death metal, how did we get here? Who are the bands that pioneered new directions in death metal and what are those albums?
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can I mail you guys my band's ep? \m/ ,cheers nonetheless lmao.
@@burneracc5397 Just send it!
@@burneracc5397 do you have it on UA-cam? What’s it called?
@@mason3872 no unfortunately but we'll soon put it out, thanks my brother
The 2 Necrophagist albums (Onset of Putrefecation and Epitaph) definitely opened the floodgates on an era of hyper technical and highly produced death metal.
Epitaph was really the album that got me into death metal. I used to hate it lol
Epitaph is not really a "highly produced" record though. It was produced by Bob Katz, who is primarily known for working with jazz and classical musicians. It's has a natural and unusually warm sound production with pretty high DR, which is a far cry from a majoriy of modern tech death releases.
That ain’t wrong.
Agreed I was listening to stabwound the other day and was thinking just how fucking ahead of the curve they were about 20 years ahead of time.
Hey all, Brad here with some clarifications:
When I said we are part of the metal media gatekeepers and we need to make a call for a band like Gatecreeper, despite being relatively new, I meant we could (should?) take a stand for what we believe in and declare them as a key band. It also pained me then to disqualify Blood Incantation based on similar criteria.
Speaking of Blood Incantation, there have been comments from people asking about why we say they only have one album. This was filmed in September and was actually the first episode filmed for Lock Horns Redux, so thanks for sticking by us as we work out some of the kinks. Also for forgiving us when the edit crossed of their logo when Sam was talking about Bloodbath, haha!
People have commented about my face when Rivers of Nihil get in, not Gatecreeper, and I just want to clarify that I have mad love for RON, but it was the application of a rule to disqualify bands (Gatecreeper and Blood Incantation) that didn’t apply to RON. That being said, I do believe Blayne’s comment about how RON had THAT album, which Gatecreeper hasn’t yet, did soften the blow. I do think it’s a bit unfair because Gatecreeper’s first album blew up so big, as did their second (IIRC it broke the Relapse site on pre-orders), so I think despite not having the IT album of a given year, I think they are equally valid as RON. Mad love for both, though.
Also my bad on saying Decapitated headlined the first year of Summer Slaughter. I was incorrect. They played directly under Necrophagist there!
One of the raddest things is the diversity of what “modern death metal” means to people. When I was first asked to do this, I thought it was going to touch a lot more on the new school of old school death metal, including bands from Maggot Stomp (Sanguisugabogg, Frozen Soul, Vomit Forth, Encoffinized, Unurnment, Abraded, Malignant Altar), 20 Buck Spin (Tomb Mold, Witch Vomit, Acephalix, Scorched, Fetid, Cerebral Rot), Redefining Darkness (Wretched Fate, Sentient Horror, Plague) or Relapse (Outer Heaven, Genocide Pact, Gatecreeper). There were plenty of bands in the live premiere that I wished we had cover. Take, for example, Aborted! Obviously I love that band (have you seen the 2010s episode, in which I say they released my favourite album of that decade?), but I think I had my blinders on with what I thought we were doing, so I didn’t think to go with a band who started more in on the grind side, similar to how someone else brought up Cattle Decapitation!
I feel bad I forgot Converge from the three life-changing bands on my graphic, and I guess that’s because I included Sum 41, whom were actually on there as my first CD. Converge is my favourite band of all time. I love Converge!
I appreciate you all watching and reading. Much love always.
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Sum 41 are cooler than Converge
Watching this, I was waiting for you to bring up Aborted. Definitely a tough call for this episode, too many great fucking bands. Honestly forgot about Disma (good album, dislike the dude though, much like those two Incantation albums)
Let me send you some merch fam check you Enterprise Earth new album he’s was the first singer of infant annihilator and was on their first album back in 2012 take notes
Aggressive Tendencies hey bud. Did you guys forget about Gojira or leave them out because they aren’t modern death?
Death Metal \m/ suggestions: Death, Immolation, Suffocation, Necrophagist, Morbid Angel, Nile, Autopsy, Deicide, Obituary, Kadavar.
02:00 Introduction
09:14 Origins
15:13 Melodic Death Metal
22:03 Death Metal Sub-genres
28:22 Essential Modern Death Metal part 1
36:15 Behemoth, Black or Death?
42:08 Gatecreeper
46:00 Bands under consideration part 1
51:44 Bands under consideration part 2
57:21 Tech Death
1:01:14 Essential Modern Death Metal Part2
Thank you, straight to the point…
Revocation should totally be on the list of essential. Dave Davidson is one of the best songwriters in metal hands down.
Guy has no shortage of killer riffs and solos. Definitely essential
I can't imagine debating on modern death metal and like you said, tech death, deathcore, slam death, modern sound... And not at once talking about Dying Fetus wich is probably one of the bands that influenced some bands you talked about.
Dying fetus is the most essential death metal band I can’t believe wasn’t even mentioned!
Stephen keddy You are sooo right
Maybe as far as influences, but they probably weren't mentioned cuz they're not modern.
This is about modern death metal. DF has been around and releasing music for over 20 years.
Joey Wheeler Amon Amarth have been also been releasing music since the mid 90s
@@twelvegaugeslug7840 fair. I haven't gotten that far into the video, so. But if they're gonna include DF then Amon Amarth absolutely should be there.
Blood incantation is leading the scene, Gigan, Portal, Chthe’ilist within others
Don't fprget Pyrrhon really underappreciated IMO So happy you mentioned Gigan! and Chthe'ilist are awesome from my city :)
@mooky sure cthe'ilist takes a lot of inspiration from Demilich (who I love btw), but if you look at other genres of metal there is a lot of copying and refining.... this is super abundant in stoner and doom metal, that doesnt devalue the band though I havent seen all that much "evolution of" or massive innovation of DM this past decade, it's a lot of fine tweaking
Definitely Blood Incantation and Gigan... Excellent suggestions!👌
Pretty sure this was filmed before Blood Incantation’s second album was released. Also, just because they are spearheading the underground currently doesn’t make them influential yet. Not saying they can’t be in that position eventually, but as the crew mentioned, they’re simply too new still.
yeah totally. I would put Tomb Mold on this list too
For me Essential means passing the Torch from the predecessors to create Death Metal itself get bigger and more brutal. Many example band like Nile, Suffocation, Necrophagist, Gorguts, and Ne Obliviscaris . They are the example how Death Metal becomes bigger and never leave the essentials.
Suffocation might fall more in the OS category HOWEVER their impact has certainly made waves.
Kyonボケ All old bands. The true predecessor of death metal is deathcore no offence
Here’s my list as someone who grew up through the 2000s. You could not go to a death metal show without a Deathcore band being on the bill. Later those Deathcore bands were even headlining such as Whitechapel at Summer Slaughter 2011. Death metal as a genre splintered off into 3 directions “core” “technical” and “brutal” with Behemoth really being the only popular “blackened” band. For this reason a list that incapsulates all these styles and fusions is needed to accurately depict what was happening in the scene ie, the record label signings, the shows, the shirts everyone was wearing etc. Of course Death Metal had its underground bands such as Dead Congregation but this didn’t hit big until the OSDM revival 2016-Present. Here’s the list of the bands I would say had the most influence on their respective sub death metal genre:
1. Necrophagist (Technical)
2. Whitechapel or Suicide Silence (Core)
3. Devourment (Brutal)
4. Meshuggah (Groove)
5. Children of Bodom (Melodic)
6. Cattle Decapitation (Grind)
7. Fleshgod Apocalypse (Symphonic)
8. Opeth (Progressive)
9. Behemoth (Blackened)
*Notable bands playing more of a extension of Death Metal rather than a subgenre
1. Kataklysm
2. Nile
3. Abysmal Dawn
4. Skinless
5. Dying Fetus
6. Aeon
*Although Vital Remains and Bloodbath had a huge influence in the 2000s Bloodbath was more a supergroup dedicated to the Old School Swedish sound, and Vital Remains hit its popularity with Glenn Benton on vocals so both bands are coming from the 90s end of the spectrum. Although they had unique sounds it wasn’t really new blood like say Opeth was.
Some of my favorite death metal bands will always be Spawn of Possession, Hour of Penance, Odious mortem, Severed Savior, Deeds of Flesh, Vital Remains, Decrepit Birth, and Necrophagist.
I think that one of the most underrated bands in this genre is Hipocrisy, and they absolutely deserve to be mentioned in this discussion. Their tone on albums like Virus and The Arrival is the best representation of how modern death metal should sound. And Peter Tagtgren should be acknowledged for his work as a producer with bands like Amon Amarth, Septicflesh and Belphegor
100 per cent Hypocrisy, though they might have formed a bit too long ago (?). Also, Tagtgren's vocals on Bloodbath's Nightmares Made Flesh is one of the best death metal performances ever.
Peter needs to be mentioned a lot more when it comes to a legends of metal conversation. He perfects everything he touches
@@Hegder My favorite Bloodbath!
williamblake1666 I saw them live one time thankfully and they were amazing. Binge listened to them for at least 2 weeks after that
@@Hegder yeah you are right, they formed a long time ago, but it's about their evolution and the evolution of their sound
Great episode guys. Very well done. I haven’t been a huge fan of the newer Lock Horns episodes, love the old live debates, but I thought this episode was very well done.
Slugdge, Hath, Dyscarnate, Gorod, Xoth, Xenobiotic
Muddy Ravine slugdge and xoth just made their own amazing sound hope it evolves into something of its own as big as everything else!
Portal is definitely a band that needs to be recognized.
Fucking yes!
Very true, but at the same time they’re so singular in their sound that no one else has really been able to sound remotely like them, which kind of fucks up the whole influence factor lol
@@passionateintrovert Well there are bands that are sorta similar, like Grave Upheaval and Impetuous Ritual.
@@passionateintrovert
Abyssal
the ominous circle
and re-categorized, if you please.
Kinda surprised that nobody talked about Septicflesh at all...or even symphonic death metal as a sub-genre.
I wouldn't have either
I just LOVE these discussions, really, really love it. I don’t have enough buddies willing to discuss metal on this level. I live vicariously through whomever is in those comfy chairs. Keep up the great work! Old format being live was great too though honestly,
Same. Im the metalhead guy in my friends group. And I do have a friend who is also mainly a metalhead, but Ive massively influenced his taste and so I feel like we lack some diversity in conversations.
I’m really surprised that the conversation about modern death metal bands didn’t include Job For A Cowboy, The Faceless, Psycroptic, Aborted and Decrepit Birth. All bands that really need to be part of the conversation.
Too much emphasis here on old school bands and name dropping as many new/underground bands from the last 3 years as possible. How can Bloodbath, Gatecreeper, Sanguisugabog, Blood Incantation, etc he mentioned multiple times and bands like JFAC never even come up. Was so looking forward to this episode and I’m honestly pretty let down by it.
g0d_0f_w4r JFAC in my opinion is more metalcore than DM at all. The Faceless is pure TechDeath with some electronic sounds.
Because they weren't that good
I'm fairly new to the death metal scene and am still learning quite a bit from very knowledgeable folks such as yourselves, but I can definitely say that I agree with the five bands chosen to rep modern death metal, in that they have most definitely created a big impact and each stand out in their own unique way.
That being said, this was another great watch from the banger crew and a lunch break at work well spent. Thank you once again for all that you do. Hails and horns from AZ. \m/
Hell yeah. Love these dudes doing this topic. Cant wait!
This is great. Thoughtful and informative. Bravo, and more! Certainly, worth re-subscribing at Patreon. I do hope Bangar puts effort into bands disinterested in re-interpreting the past. Extreme music is vast-the 90’s can’t contain it!
My top modern death metal bands.
Active: Dead Congregation, Grave Miasma, Obliteration, Blood Incantation, Teitanblood, Vassafor, Diocletian, Ulcerate, Venenum, Portal.
Inactive/Split up: Kasmos, Repugnant, Morbus Chron, Witchrist, Antediluvian
This new format is great, there's more intelligent discourse; lots of thorough thinking and arguments (but dialectic so it still feels organic) besides just name dropping for an hour! Keep up the great work!
Rivers Of Nhil, Gatecreeper, Blood Incantation, Tomb Mold, Gruesome...sooo much great new death out there I can't even keep up 🤘
Depending on the color text of why they see as modern Death Metal bands like Tomb Mold and Gatecreeñer could be out, because they played Old School style Death Metal, so in Modern Death Metal we talk about bands that are new to the scen or bands with new modernized sound like Blood Incantation or Decapitated, Black Dahlia Murder etc.
Really cool discussion, I really enjoy these kinds of videos!
I think, it would've been worth to mention 3 more bands: dying fetus, meshuggah and gojira - especially the last two have clear death metal roots, but spawned a whole new direction of sub genres.
I’m in the “old guy” boat w/ Sam, so this was highly informative. Really loving Horrendous. Thanks dudes.
Great episode guys!
I think your list is excelent! Now we need Essential modern black metal bands
You can tell it killed Brad having Gatecreeper denied for being too new then Rivers of Nihil end up making the cut hahahaha
I loveeee both of those bands, but I was disappointed that GC got disqualified for that, while RON didn't. Blayne's statement about RON having THAT album, which GC arguably don't, did soften the blow a bit because I do think there's some validity to that, but I also think GC might not have THE album because the respect and demand was SO high off the first album. Hell, I'm pretty sure 'Deserted' crashed the Relapse site on pre-orders, so I think they've earned the position!
I'm kind of blown away Gojira didn't get a mention. I consider them death metal. Formed in 2001. Legends.
You're the second person I've seen mention them. I love Gojira, but never thought of them as death metal.
yeah I love Gojira too, not really what I would call death metal though...I would call them progressive groove if anything
Michael Patterson first albums definitely had a big death metal influence.
@@mangogoat4691 Yeah, that's what I was thinking. They definitely have a good amount of death metal influence. 100% not a standard death metal band by no means. I do think they have just enough in there throughout their career to warrant at least a mention by one of the guys on the show. They were talking about multiple sub-genres being what defines modern death metal, and I think Gojiras brand of progressive/groove/death is a prime example of the modern evolution of the genre.
Hypocrisy, Kataklysm, Dying Fetus and Nile absolutely got snubbed. I agree with Amon Amarth, The Black Dahlia Murder and even Cattle Decapitation with their newer stuff. But to not even include Nile or Hypocrisy or Kataklysm is just weird to me, and as big as Dying Fetus is its hard to see them not even getting a mention.
^^^ This
Dying Fetus, Nile, Kataklysm and Hypocrisy! these were some of the bands that came out just after the wave OSDM bands and I think they all kinda picked up the torch in a way
@@deadmentellnotales8772 Exactly
preach
Dying Fetus definitely came to mind for me
Especially Nile for me, Anihilation of the Wicked is easilly one of my favorite albums of all time.
Excellent sibling program with a big hello and strong metal hug from Venezuela ... South America
I have learned that Metal and Music in general is generational. I grew up in the golden age of DM (88-92) and I am still giving new bands A listen but nothing brings me more joy than the OGs.
I started listening to death metal in 92. Trying to listen to newer bands as well like after watching this episode and listened to Dead Congregation and those guys are definitely old school modern death metal. They are freakin riff machines. Blood Incantation is cool too. For along time the newest thing I would listen to was Nile.
Death Atlas is the most thunderous, intense, emotional, heavy music I've ever heard. It's my favorite album of all time, and it was a game changer for me.
More than agree with you on that. Blasting it since it came out. Best album by Cattle Decap, period!
@@TheCryptCrawler I can't even count how many times I've listened to that album. It hits home on a lot of subjects that are important to me, and Travis's lyrics are incredible. There's no one like them 🤘
Saw them live in nyc back in December. Killer live band just fantastic!
@@freq9939 That's a huge goal of mine, need to catch them live. I need to see papi Travis and the gang live. Also, seeing Dave Mcgraw drum live would be amazing, he's insane
"Favourite album of all time"? That's a big call for an album which is only a few months old. Personally I thought it was a bit of a let down. IMO Anthropocene is a lot better.
Love you guys, also brad got a lil Forrest Gump beard look there \m/ thanks for the vids in quarantine, be safe guys!
Can’t mention modern death metal without mentioning any/all of the bands signed to Maggot Stomp.
I definitely mentioned that a few times. I wish I got to talk about it more. When I first heard about this episode, I thought that was the focal point...the new school of old school death metal! I was pumped. Still happy we got to talk about these bands, but godDAMN did I want to highlight the STOMP more.
Chris Misenti FROZEN SOUL!!
No weak shit!
I’m not sure they would qualify as “essential” but if you’re talking about The Black Dahlia Murder, I feel like you also have to at least mention Job for a Cowboy. They were in the same position as TBDM in that they were a band that led a lot of people from deathcore to death metal and vice versa, plus they get lumped into deathcore (like Dahlia) because of the time they were coming up. Obviously they’re a bit different since they played a key role in inventing deathcore in the first place with the Doom EP but they immediately turned into a straight forward death metal band (maybe even tech death?) once they released Genesis.
They were pretty big for a few years even after the transition made all the deathcore kids lose interest and they had a pretty big impact on the metal scene as a whole so I think they at least deserve a name drop.
It was crazy to me that there wasn't one mention for JFAC in the whole discussion when they had Whitechapel and Black Dahlia who all came up at the same time.
@@boocawkey Totally agree with that comment. Those bands all came up about the same time and JFAC is definitely as influential as TBDM and way more so (IMHO) than Whitechapel.
They aren’t death metal. Love em’ one of the few deathcore bands I really like.... but they are not death metal
@@Nothing-bl7bj I don't necessarily disagree with that...BUT - all I am saying (and original commentor was) is that if you are going to mention other bands that might walk the line between genres - like TBDM, White Chapel, Cattle Decap, etc. - how do you not even mention JFAC? Not saying they should be one of the 5 bands considered essential to the genre - just saying these guys mentioned a ton of other bands that all came out about the same time as JFAC and they probably should have at least been included with those bands.
@@Nothing-bl7bj they are post DOOM ep. listen to sun eater and tell me that's not straight up technical death metal. nothing 'core' about it.
Great episode, it really is difficult to say who are THE DEFINING bands in this era of death metal and a lot of folks, including myself are mentioning bands who'd be considered "too new". I have to agree with the five listed, especially (because I'm biased and love them) Cattle Decapitation. TBDM and Amon Amarth sure, both are really fun bands, who doesn't love Nocturnal and With Odin on Our Side. Decapitated is a good pick. Rivers of Nihil may be "too new" in the sense that their breakout album was not long ago but it was really fucking good, they are the next Opeth.
Gruesome, decapitated, Krisiun, Suffocation, Entrails, Sinister, Necrot, Memoriam and ofcourse Fleshgod Apocalypse
Krisiun, Suffocation and Sinister are all too old, they aren't modern death metal bands considering theyve all been dropping albums since the early 90s..
Suffocation is 100% in the OG category, but they are still relevant and actually have morphed their sound into a much more modern sound.
Glad someone mentioned Gruesome. I'd add Gravebomb and Amputory as well.
@mooky nothing wrong with playing in an old style. They still have sick songwriting
@mooky well define modern then, I think if they put out a first album around the late 90s they are modern
Some bands I love - Obliteration, Pyrrhon, Gigan, Dead Congregation, chapel of disease, blood incantation, Horrendous, Aeternam, Teitanblood, cthe'ilist, etc
CHAPEL OF DISEASE!!!! Fuck yes dude!
@@JF-xj6sh it just sounds so unlike everything else death metal!
@@shawnsmith8558 For sure! Great band, their most recent album is killer!
Horrendous, Contrarian and Blood Incantation are three wisemen of modem death metal. A true understanding of the old with a new approach. You guys should have a discussion about this.
Yes, This is a very good observation! @bangertv, all these bands like GateCreeper, Tomb Mold, etc are very REGRESSIVE, it is very dangerous to set these as leaders, especially on a genre built on evolving craft competence!
COFFINS in my opinion meets all of your parameters while definitely on the slower side are criminally underrated and just there choice of cover songs alone makes them more interesting to me than some of the more popular choices
Ulcerate, Portal, Mithras, Pyrrhon, Gigan, Ad Nauseam, Imperial Triumphant (if you don't count them more as black), Coma Cluster Void, Artificial Brain
Fucking love this guys. Such a great subject and love hearing you guys views.
Black crown initiate, disentomb, decrepit birth, farmakon, rivers of nihil, obscura, misery index, cattle decapitation, cephalic carnage etc are probably what i'd put in this category.
brad loves deathcore so much i love it haha he brings it up in almost every convo.
I saw Gatecreeper live about a year and half ago, actually the last time I had a drink (they had nothing to do with it, lol) fantastic show and I hadn't heard any of the bands, glad they are doing well!
*starts talking about Bloodbath, puts up Blood Incantation logo*
48 minutes in and I can’t believe no one has mentioned Aborted, Nile, or Dying Fetus! To me they started what we would call modern death metal! Great production, ridiculous imagery, and a greater focus on songwriting.
Aborted are awfully derivative
It's easy to tell that Sam and I come from a similar age because the first two albums that came to mind on this topic are Winds of Creation from Decapitated and Onset of Putrefaction by Necrophagist. But other modern death metal albums that I think that signal a second wave would be early Faceless, Dying Fetus, Black Dahlia, Amon Amarth.
Now this felt like a lockhorns video! Great job! Almost feel like modern death metal paralleled new wave of american heavy metal with the diversity.
I definitely have to invest in a leather chair to watch these episodes!! ⚡🤘. Again a huge like to this video. Regards from DK 🇩🇰
Goatwhore and Misery Index should have a mention in the discussion as well. Two diverse and well rounded bands that have significant sound and considerable following= a mention at least. At least by your criteria anyway...
Cheerz from Vancouver. DM forever
nice to see winds of creation mentioned. got me reinvigorated with death metal when it came out. still a go-to death metal album for me personally.
I’ve not read all the comments but the “Bolt Thrower” picture is actually Benediction 😂
whoops
I was immediately looking for Jo Bench and then laughed at myself for being played
I got into metal again because of Revocation and Rivers of Nihil and then finding Cattle Decapitation was so extreme! i love it! Great list. Wondering why bands like Exhumed never seem to get any love? maybe "best live performances"?
Interment's "Scent Of The Buried" from a couple of years ago is still amazing. Hope they keep going!
Love the show, love the channel and love the casters. Great work guys. But we need more Sarah.
Blood Incantation’s November release is Super sick. Definitely recommended for fans of that old-school analogue sound.
Totally agree - if you are going to listen to any recent Death Metal release this is a must
These two are my fav members of BangerTV
I came here just to listen to people talk about The Black Dahlia Murder. I wasn't disappointed. And I also have new bands to check out. Sweet video.
First off Blayne was bringing it in this episode. His debates, his opinions, and knowledge shined so my hat is off to you man; awesome. Modern death metal had me thinking Tomb Mold, Blood Incantation, Horendous, and Rivers of Nihl not nessacerily Black Dahlia Murder, Amon Amarth, or Cattle Decapitation. Those older bands are getting close to the 20yr mark. Hard to call any album from a band that came out almost 20yrs ago essential when the word modern is thrown in. Not to say a discussion about those bands shouldnt be continued, but if this episode was called New Millinium Death Metal or post Y2K Death Metal then Cattle Decap, Black Dahlia, and Decapitation would fit into the theme. Mordern Old School Death Metal should be talked about bands that have 5-7 years of existence and thier music. Just my opinion.
The fact that literally NO ONE mentioned Vastum makes me sick.
bands like that would fly over this channels collective heads cos of shyte like amon amarth lel
I have never even heard of Vastum, just checked them out and I dig it. Thanks!
Official Purge was so fucking good!
Pretty much everything about this episode was nausea-inducing.
@@ceannairereibiliunach8133 sarah did should out vastum though in one of her reviews
I was there for the beginning of death metal also. But I love modern death metal too. Tomb Mold, Vastum, Gatecreeper, Scorched, Blood Incantation.
I was kinda hoping that this list might be about bands and albums that started say post 2010. While yes there's the obvious stalwarts of the genre that have been killing it for decades, but I would like to expand upon my horizons and hear about some of the more underground bands that are putting out the newest masterworks that will undoubtedly inspire the next generation of metal heads.
Thanks to subgenrization we can call Behemoth blackened death :) Also Horrendous has put out 3 stellar albums since 2014, might be too young but still one of my favourites. This was a great watch/listen, thanks for the discussion guys :)
I’m a huge fan of Lock Horns and am really pleased with the final band selection (except for one of them) despite the few times during this video when I was perplexed and/or pulling my hair out. Then again, that’s partially what makes Lock Horns great.
I’d replace the one bad band selection (Rivers of Nihil for obvious reasons) with Behemoth. BUT- if we are saying Behemoth is black metal (even though they’re totally not) then the 5th band in my opinion needs to be Gojira or Nile.
Led led the way for the face melting bands that are brutal, fast, and technical. They’ve also put out all their best stuff after 2000, with only their debut being pre-2000.
Gojira (not one of my personal favorites but I respect them) are talented, dedicated artists who consistently put out great albums post-2000 that were well-crafted, dark, beautiful, melodic, and technical. They also reached a very wide audience compared to many of the bands we’ve been mentioning.
One tangent I won’t go down but would be a fun one: the bands that aren’t quite old school, not modern, but definitely gave birth to modern death metal (Suffocation, Cryptopsy, Dying Fetus, the melodic Swedish era, Vader, Krisiun, Exhumed, Gorguts).
That’s my two(?) cents, anyway. Great vid. I disagree with many of the complainers.
Portal, Gigan, Artificial Brain, Archspire, TBDM, Beneath The Massacre, JFAC,Braindrill..that would be my picks for modern death. basically, bands that picked up what Gorguts started on "Obscura"
Rivers of Nihil, 1914, Gomorrah, Vail of Pnath, Iscsriot, and Vitriol are some of my favorite heavy bands right now
Thank you i love this so much!
30 minutes in and no mention of suffocation or incantation. early 2000s set the new bar for modern death metal.
Brutal Death Bands like Suffocation or Incantation doesn't deserve to be call "Modern" coff*main*coff*stream, these bands are in "Death Metal Hall of Fame".
I was into Impaled and a bunch of Razorback Records type death metal in the early 2000s. Acid Witch, Tombstones, good stuff. 🤘
I would say my favourite modern death metal bands are Gatecreeper, Necrot, Tomb Mold, and others like Genocide Pact and Creeping Death. Then there are other great death metal bands that are kind of modern but not really when you think about what year their first releases came out, like Cattle Decapitation and Nile.
There are tons more but I just havent gotten around to listening to them, looking forward to the episode so I can learn about some new ones and add more to "the list".
I love every band that you mentioned, especially Genocide Pact, whom I've seen live twice and will see every time they come to the area. I think they are an amazing young death metal band.
@@THEEArmoredSaint fukk ya! I caught them live only once so far, on the Dying Fetus tour.
I really believe that VITIOL has brought so much to the table when it comes to death metal. They are just utterly intense and brutal. A great “Modern Death Metal” band.
Interesting to hear differing views on WHEN the modern era of DM starts (00s or 10s). I'd always just assumed that it was the new millennium, but the shift in sound around the 10s that Brad discusses could open the door to a new era.
Funny how reaching a consensus on 5 essential bands proved difficult. Guess it's hard to gauge the influence of bands that, in the grand scheme of things, haven't been around that long.
Revocation are a great modern death metal band
My favorite band of recent years
Saw them live last weekend, too bad the venue was terrible and it was just ridiculously too loud. Was looking so forward to it
summer slaughter 2007 - Mohammad talking about the new album comming out by 2008... yeah, those were the times
Blood Incantation, Contrarian, Horrendous are the best modern death metal.
Gorguts should definitely be of some reference. I could agree that their impact is not directly concerning Death Metal, because DSO took the recipe and expanded upon, but the sheer originality is quite clear. I would also agree that they would tap in some spaces that are more clear, or represented, in the Black Metal realm but the originality they brought to the genre is undeniable. That notion, in some sense, of a meditative death metal was, until then, quite absent.
I would add Pan.Thy.Monium to that list along with Portal, all 3 bands have a strong gravitational pull on the scene nowadays.
I would say modern stuff Gorguts, because their first album where some really good but generic Death Metal from their time Obscura was the album.m tha hinted their new direction and Colored Sands was the kickstarter of thee new progressive wall of sound style, and Pleiades Dust it's their current peak
@@personavisceration371 Pan Thy Monium: using sax since before Rivers of Nihil made it cool
My take on this is that modern death metal is comprised of multiple sub genres like melodic death, technical death, death core, progressive death, death doom, modern versions of old school death... etc. Modern death metal is not one specific style, its a variety of subgenres. That is how it evolved from early old school death metal - it branched out into subgenres. One band worthy of mentioning that wasn't included in the discussion is Suffocation. They were one of the first bands that really took technical playing to an extreme level. As for melodic death metal, I agree that Amon Amarth was one of the pivotal ones, but another one that deserves mention is Dismember. They were also one of the first bands of the next generation of death (90's) metal who took the raw brutal old school sound and incorporated melodic elements into it.
I' m dying to watch this!!
"Let's be careful not to leapfrog these older bands"
*keeps talking about Amon Amarth that have been around since early 1990s*
that was low key bothering the s#$t out of me lol formed in 92, had demos out in 93 and 94. modern in what sense?
Gatecreeper! They stick to the roots essential to the genre, but are giving it a modern sound with crisper production than what was available in the 90s.
Gatecreeper is a snorefest
Love them too! Been digging them since I discovered Sonoran Deprivation a couple years back.
Gatecreeper is not a snorefest, Gatecreeper is Hipster Death Metal. Think Deafheaven.
@Jesus Christ Denton haven't thoroughly heard much from them, but just like in late 90s metalcore plethora bands started ripping off at the gates blueprint at first instance gatecreeper and baest are ripping off bolt thrower / dismember / grave blueprint of sound (so not too overtly unique, I suppose why reinvent a tried and tested formula). I would rather place full of hell, aborted and cattle decapitation, in the category as to me they have unique shifts and travel-cross various boundaries of death metal / grind nuances to give their own modern interpretation of the sub genre.
Wow. I got a shoutout at the end. Awesome
I don’t know that I totally agree with the list (especially Rivers of Nihil...what?) but I sure enjoyed the conversation.
One band I never see anyone mention is Ouroboros. They only have a couple albums out, but they're phenomenal. "Glorification of a Myth" ( I think ot came out in 2011) is one of the best DM records I've ever heard.
I feel like bands like Suicide Silence, All Shall Perish, Necrophagist, and even Job For A Cowboy all had a huge roll in forming today's Modern Death Metal bands like White Chapel, Shadow of Intent. Bands like Lamb of God, and even Slipknot I feel like really brought Metal into a more popular scene. You have your consistent bands that have evolved over the years (Cannibal Corpse for instance. Black Dahlia) that are still go-to for hardcores. I'm a tattoo artist and when I ask people what music they like and they say "metal", I have to say "Okay, do you mean Slipknot, or "real" metal/death metal, and if they don't know extreme music, they almost always say "Slipknot". I feel like Slipknot doesn't get enough credit for what they've done for Metal music over the years. They've really helped bring a lot of bands into the mainstream. Through tours, or just through their own popularity. People like their music and say to themselves "I like this, I want to find more like it".
Great discussion and well done for adding Decapitated. I’d like to just mention Brain Drill. They perhaps didn’t stick around long enough to earn their place on the board but as far as Tech-Death bands go, they set an almost unattainable standard and, to me, are the epitome of the sub genre.
You mentioned Bolt Thrower and showed a photo of Benediction. Party foul.
Favorite death metal bands of this millennium: Dead Congregation, Cruciamentum, Krypts, Lantern, and Grave Miasma. I wanted to include Funebrarum, but they're '99.
Honorable mentions: Vanhelgd, Bastard Priest, Faceless Burial, Adversarial, and Chthe'ilist.
MySpace 2005 the biggest thing to hit metal/ death, justthrough networkig, and sharing, and also the rise of the daws , being able to record at home with quality. The most influential thing in metal
I think Hate Eternal is essential modern death metal
I agree completely with the 5 chosen bands as most essential and diverse. Of course it happen to be my personal choice as well 😛
So glad Cattle Decapitation is finally getting some attention on this channel.
My three favorite new discoveries are Corpsessed, Glacial Tomb and Proscription.
Regarding the photo at 4 mins 50 seconds: I can safely vouch that I am better looking than Karl Willetts. But me and the rest of the Benediction guys appreciate the promotion, since we're getting a new album out in the next few months. Want an Skype interview?
Oh yeah, your show kicks ass. Nice one!
I agree, this was really a hard choice to name 5 definitive bands, also an honorable mention would be Deserted Fear, I think. Fucking love this band. And they're from the city I'll live in soon :D
One of the main bands not mentioned is definitely Undergang, total inspiration for much of the knuckle dragging bands out there today.
Amon is a really good group. Definitely original. I put them on the cusp of old, and modern
Ulcerate, Gorguts, Blood incantation, Desolate Shrine, Dead congregation and Horrendous are my favourite DM bands around now. Im an old fuck too. Man walking around with the first Deicide on cassette in my pocket literally had me thinking demons started following me around. Hard to explain or understand now. It was indeed terrifying and thrilling and because of the way you had to hunt down music then. It added to it. Great times.
I don't really get the case for including Amon Amarth just because they're popular. They don't have a modern approach to making DM. They sound very traditional, not much technicality and they've never really pushed any boundaries.
I always found them boring as hell.
This is my problem essentially as well. They were around with the other melodic bands in the 1990s just made it big after the others had their success. However I do feel they are an important band, especially when talking about gateway bands. But in the context of what this video was about, hell no.
Even though I'm a huge Amon Amarth fan, I have to agree. They're the ACDC of death metal. They found a sound and stuck with it.
Here's my main problem we're looking at modern death metal bands but putting Amon Amarth, The Black Dahlia Murder, Decapitated under modern is too weird for me. When i think of modern i'm thinking of current new generation of bands. Decapitated started out sounding like Vader and then went more technical and groove later. They were modern like almost 20 years ago lol. Same with Black Dahlia Murder, they were more into the At The Gates style at the time with a more modern approach. I feel the discussion should of been more into the newer bands with todays modern sound. These bands are not modern at all. The new generation should get more of a chance instead of getting pushed aside.
The discussion definitely veered too far into the 2000-2009 territory. I would have preferred this video stuck to the last 10 years as it fits the “modern” tag better. Maybe they’ll redux the redux down the road?