Worth it? Axial Base Camp SCX10-III
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2022
- The newest release from Axial is the new SCX10-III Base Camp. This is the most budget friendly entry into the portal axle game from Axial. But did they do it right?
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Interesting on the gearing! I wish they had included that info in the manual. Thanks for doing the heavy lifting, Josh.
...Josh's "poor back" !!! 😉😂
Thats why we have Josh lol
when you say re-gear on minute 12:31, what gear part is used for that? how is that done?
I want to modify to straight axles but cant find any instructions for gear mod
My observations are that it’s $20 more than a Traxxas TRX4 Sport and more than the Element Enduro, they dropped the forward motor mount and are giving yet another center mounted transmission design (Why?). Axial’s transmissions and which ones which is already confusing. I can do without the dig or 2speed, but they could have just made a simplified forward one. They got rid of the 3in1 ESC receiver combo which is a good idea as you had to drop more electronics and get a receiver if you wanted to upgrade. I think maybe they figured out their clickety mcclackerson forward transmission couldn’t be salvaged
The transmission has been my biggest problem with Axial lately. After using the industry standard for that many years, then all of a sudden abandon it for gizmo stuff.
Associated invented the 3 gear for the RC10 . It's been copied ever since.
I wish Axial had just put a dig unit on the back if the old 3 gear.
I've always said, nothing worse than a bored engineer. ( I'm an engineer)
Been leaning more towards the Element platform lately, they seem to be working on geometry more than gismo tech.
Have fun, man.
- DAMN RIGHT !!!!! 😡...😆😁👌WELL SAID !!!
I use the standard transmission that came with it in my SCX10 III. I have the dig and two speed disabled. I've never had a problem with it.
Body sucks for $400
I actually think Axial made a smart decision with this truck. It's essentially a rtr builders kit. I bet the sell a bunch of these. The haters will no doubt be out to add their 2cents but then again aren't they always...
Axial pulled a typical Traxxas move on this one. Show up late to the game, make what appears to be a cheaper vehicle, and come in at a higher price point. Great idea, but totally missed the mark.
Perfect place to medicate and just goto that happy place of Zen Crawl Mode goodness.
Nice! Here's hoping for a kit version, very interesting for custom builds. If not a kit version, then at least an ARTR (almost ready to run) without the electronics, so builders can chose their own.
I agree with others. I want a builder's kit or a roller. I might get one and put a deadbolt body on it. Black window stickers would look much better then the silver imo.
I bet Traxxas has black window stickers patented.😄
@@danielkonrad1444 😄 🤣 😂
I rarely ever hold my breath for kits any more.
@@HarleyDesignsInc they are unicorns
@@HarleyDesignsInc agree 👍
I’m actually impressed with what you get for the money I could see running it almost as is without having to replace a lot to suit my taste or because of durability issues, I’d still be dumping most of the electronics but I use a Spectrum system for my crawlers so RX wouldn’t end up in the bin but likely find itself in a different project. Obviously they are going after the TRX4 Sport. well have to see how it sells vs TRX4 and Element
Always appreciate your videos and opinions. The more I see this truck the more I like it. If you have the time do a build series on it. Just a thought.
Many thanks for the effort you put into the channel. Has helped in my (and families) RC journey.
Cheers!!!
Portal axle element enduro it feels like. One of the first mods to that was remove/modify the bumpers.
Also thanks for running the gates, ran some gates for the first time the other week, and I've owned my crawler for 3 years now? It's quite fun forcing mates to run the exact same track you're taking haha.
Nice video. I really like the talking and explaining during the running instead of just music.
If they were trying to budge the TRX4 sport as a budget option they missed by a huge margin. Its $20 more expensive and has no where near the aftermarket support as the TRX4. Honestly if they would have stuck with the old 3 gear trans with straight axles this would have been a better sell.
But it seems to perform better than a TRX4, like for like, aside from the annoying overhang of the bumpers anyway.
Not with the battery in the back and no weight over the front it won't
@@nj2033 weight is not always best over the front, weight low is where the performance is, yes you might be able to climb up steep terrain very slightly better, but coming back down or side hilling will just have it rolling over, which the TRX4 does, I've had 4 of them and always sold them because they perform so poorly, they aren't 'scale' either and in my opinion, just don't drive very nicely... They almost feel toy grade.
This is definitely performs better than a TRX4 sport. The COG is much lower. The price isn't as low and durability is likely not quite as good.
Agreed!
The window stickers look like the window masks and I can't get over that 😂
My single biggest complaint!
Nice rocks by the water and you can drive right up. Awesome spot
Hey you got the green.
Been a while since I’ve seen a review of yours with a running video. Cool test on the rocks.
The first thing I do is take parts off when I buy a new rc, so this in my eyes is perfect.
Front servo mounting option and aluminum panhard mount were standard on the Gladiator 😉👍🏻
Do a budget build off with SBG. 👍
That's like a dirty word! So much work!!!
I was thinking this could be a good starter/donor rig for a flat rail chassis, but this new transmission design doesn't appear to use the 3-gear bolt pattern we're used to seeing on so many aftermarket skids. I'm sure it won't take long for companies to adapt their bolt hole pattern. It definitely looks like a good foundation to be a real performer. I actually use this Tx/Rx combo on my Sendero HD. It might sound crazy, but it lets me keep my winch on a momentary vs a toggle that the AE transmitter has. I was initially looking for just the receiver used so I could use my DX5c, and stumbled on the combo for less than a new SR315. Now I have a remote for each crawler and my friends or wife can go with me and use the crawler they want to try
Oh cool. Axial made a element enduro sendero.
Thanks for the solid review Josh. Hat's off to you for making it thru without laughing,your a better man then me! Wow that's all I have on this one! On another note if you have any pull over there at axial tell them to release a direct replica of the trail honchos 2 in lexan with body pins and all on the scx24 platform. That would actually be pretty cool to have in the stable!
I mean the ECX barrage body was close!
Trx4 sport from axial
Introducing a great vehicle!😊👍🏻👍🏻
Great video Josh. Hopefully Axial releases this as an even more affordable kit version. This truck might be a great contender for a budget build between you and Matt.
It would be a great Build-Off for Matt and Josh!
It would also be a great LOW cost option for the rest of us.
I like the more simplistic design of this over the original 10.3, there are things that people will complain about but this could be a decent replacement for the 10.2. would be nice for a kit but we know that probably isn't going to happen but a roller will help fill that void and wouldn't be a strain of anything extra on manufacturing and not too bad for the LHS to carry
Okay, I am ready to see a box stock Base Camp VS Sport ;}
anotherwords this is axials version of the Trx4 sport, I love it keep the competition going!!
Going to wait for the kit version that I’m sure it coming to just pick electronics and body put of the gate.
I don't know if I would hold my breath for a kit, but it's something we may have to talk about on the Livestream Takeover
This is Axials answer for the TRX4 Sporti think. The Bumper looks similar;) Nice for starting the Hobby if u dont want to build. Nice Review thx for the Video as always 👍
Anyone still have an original SCX10? I got mine cheap when the SCX10ii came out. It's ancient for an RC but still works great.
The SCX2 and 3 are big leaps over the OG, it’s definitely worth looking for a newer gen. But if you’re already having fun, just keep rocking.
The new trucks like it did pretty good. Great video Brother keep up the great work
It's definitely the best performing scx3!
However, I loved the Jeep 2000 XJ rtr!!! So I am pretty happy about this one, even though its a half pound heavier than the XJ.
ya i'll be waiting for this release as a builder's kit. looks fun enough.
But will the kit version ever come? I wouldn't bet on it.
On full turning lock does the tyre rub against the underneath link bar? Also are the electronics waterproof out of then box?
Gosh. I'm so jealous of the place you're crawling in... We don't have rocks here... :(
Nice video by the way, I would love to see a second video about the free upgrade you can do to it (Moving bumpers in and higher, Heavy trimming of the body, Lower COG, etc...) to see how much better it performs after a little bit of work :)
I may do a 1-day build, but I don't know if I'll fully focus on free!
@@HarleyDesignsInc would still love to watch that !
I'm very interested in the trimming part, as it made my old SCX 1 (with upgraded radio and WP1080) so much more enjoyable to use as a real crawler and not just a trail truck :)
It still has the hidden axial body mount holes on the frame for other body options. I like that. The stock body could definitely use some shoe goo and drywall tape to quieten it down.
Shoe goo?
@@jackpanula9975 Yeah. Shoe goo is an adhesive gel that comes in a tube. You stick drywall mesh tape all over the inside of the body. Hot glue spots that won't stay like in the tight corners, then spread a thin layer of shoe goo all over that and let it dry. It makes the bodies last a lot longer.
I've been out of the rc game a few years. I had a scx10 and wraith which apparently are now both discontinued. Do you have a comparison vid on the 10.2 vs 10.3? I picked up a scx24 and want to pick up a 1/10 again too
Just picked this one up, did some body trimming before first run. Curious how it will do against my trx4 sport
Oooo look at the that thing looks sweet. It would be sweet if you guys did a Build off on that
I found that using a onsta pot or pressure cooker works best. Like boiling but with hotter steam.
When you say re-gear on minute 12:31, what gear part is used for that? how is that done?
I want to modify to straight axles but cant find any instructions for gear mod
Give a BUILDER'S KIT, and I'm IN!!! Great presentation Josh, you covered everything we needed, as always.
I do agree with the others, that price point is TOO HIGH for what you get!
I like ALL the changes, except the painted over Windows (of course) and the shape of the Front Bumper.
It almost looks like Axial drilled the Body Holes just a little too far forward. Looking at the Wheel Arches, it appears that the Body could be moved forward about 2-4mm, and the Front Bumper trimmed to match.
I know Axial's never going to give me one for review...
..... Cont'd
But I'd love to get one, and dig into the possibilities. Good name, because this can be the Base for MANY projects.
Just like the Original!!! 👍👍
My daughter already found the switch and is running at 100% and treating hers like a Rock bouncer. 😂
Josh was really caressing the rear bumper there lol
😆🤣😂... - and THAT "IS WHERE" - YOU GET THE REVERSING TRANSMISSION !!!!! - JOSH YOU ARE FUNNY !!! 😆🤣 👍🤘😎👌
The biggest advantage towards this instead of a TRX Sport is, this thing has some steering angle.
And the COG is better.
would buy the trail honcho or the deadbolt before that just my 2cents good work Josh
I thought that tires that rub on the body when you turn was a feature of the 10:3 lineup 🤔😁
Thanks for digging into the transmission. The press release info was very lacking on that. I think the 10.2 Deadbolt or 1.9 Wraith would still be my choice if I had to pick and Axial RTR
The 10.2 is still a great option.
Great review.
I do think that this truck has potential.
But.... alot of money will have to be spent to bring to a great level.
In my opinion.
Then your getting to a pheonix level.
I think Matt had a good point by saying this would be a great builders kit.
Add a few things, and take a number if things away.
That chassis is not bad.
Though I like my forward mounting motor and trans in my 10.3
Haha.
Vanquish vfd twin is better but hahaha.
Body is ugly.. haha.
Nice scenery mate. Not a fan of that body but I’m amazed it’s not another jeep from axial tbh 🤷♂️😉
Would you recommend this over the axial honcho?
I would have been happy with the stock AR-44 Axles, with the Ripsaw Tires. And the stock XJ transmission running the plastic gears!
After watching you run this Base Camp rig, I am thinking that the Sport rtr would spank this rig.
The TRX4 sport tires are better but the COG on this is better. This truck is likely still more capable but the tires need help.
the servo winch locations are a great improvement
So many options!
Nice review ! Would be great as a kit without a body, tires & wheels.
How does this truck compare to the axial wraith 1.9? Literally cannot find any sort of comparison
It would be nice it they
Came out with a 10iii builders kit
It almost like an updated 10ii
Reminds me of my metric body and the bumpers that knight customs made for it
It's definitely the base from the metric, just simplified.
This truck in an rtr form is decent but dollar for dollar I still think the trx4 sport is the better value... however, if they offer this as a raw builders kit I'll buy one. I wish they had skipped out on the licensed bumpers and wheels and lowered the cost around 30ish dollars to really compete and beat the trx4.. the aftermarket support for the traxxas is also substantially better. I hope this plain Jane theme hangs around a while. All of the fancy half working click clack stuff is exactly why I haven't gotten a 10.3 as of yet....
My trx4 sport is looking at me and saying don't you dare lol
Well, it's better.
A case of too little too late.
The 10-3 convinced me to build a G-Speed. I'm not looking back. I've abandoned the big guys since they quit offering decent kits.
I've built around 8 Vanquish trucks, gotta say I love building those. Very relaxing to me. I still own 3.
Love your work, thanks for your time. I use your input a lot. hope you stay passionate about building, be well and have fun.
Once you really start building exactly what you want, it's hard to go back.
I've been having trouble deciding on what 1/10 rtr trail rig to purchase this summer. I have an SCX24 Gladiator and love it. I get what Axial was going for with this rig, however I still like the SCX10III Early Bronco more. I'm thinking I may puchase the Early Bronco. But, I'll probably just get the Redcat GEN8 V2 because of the inner fenders, body mounting system, more forward weight bias and price point(with battery & charger) for starting out in RC.
FYI: I will put a Harley Designs sticker on my GEN8 V2
The Axial is a better built unit I would say. But its definitely more expensive!
Even though you hit it that was a very nice gate one for a stock truck!!!
You'll have to be more specific, I hit a lot of gates :) lol
Hey Josh what part of Folsom is that?
This is only $40 more than an rtr 10.2 honcho… considering the honcho has dog bones, plastic links, sintered axle gears, and essentially friction shocks, I know which one I would buy.
That is a really good way to look at it.
Also considering the honcho is now discontinued and the deadbolt is looking to follow. It is now what we have. I really hope to see a revision of the wraith 1.9 come back. Maybe a wraith 1.9 with portals but keep the three gear trans! I did however dump my gladiator and picked up the base camp. So far I’m not regretting it as what I sold it for has built a pretty well equipped base camp.
I kinda like it !
I kinda feel bad for the R&D department under the current constraints. I feel that regardless of some of the short points this may fall upon, building a vehicle based on price point and bringing more people into the hobby is a win for the community. With that being said, so many companies are falling under the horizon umbrella and a platform such as this allows them to flourish through upgrades and give us , the consumer more options in the long run. 👍🏻Axial!
think we need the comparison or Element Sendero HD or Ecto, This and the TRX sport.
I like it
Do you think we are starting to see a push for productivity from horizon have an effect on quality of design and craftsmanship? Also is Axial racing retaining full creative rights to their products?
All it needs is a Jeep body and its perfect 😂🤙 Another awesome rig review!
I love me a JEEP!
For a base truck, it will get the job done.
It really needs more weight over the front.
What would you recommend when it come to trail truck kits? I have been looking at the phoenix, the trail king and some of the rc4wd. I want something that I would be able to hike with but also potentially compete with. Any thoughts?
All those options are great trail trucks, but not good for competition imo
Competition trucks are almost purpose built, they don't make great trail rigs.
I got my trx4 sport to do 6 hrs/3 battery packs/ 9000+ feet of elevation. Stock. No issues.
Where do you crawl, with this truck?
Think this might discontinue 10.2? I would’ve liked to see clear windows myself. Good unboxing and review.
Man... if it sells well, I could see it being the final nail. I hope not though, I still think the 2.0 was the best one.
@@HarleyDesignsInc yeah the 10.2 was my favorite, trail honcho was my first crawler! It’s CoachD by the way lol…
Looking at the running video it seems like the foams are way stiff. I see no flex in the tires. Great for side hills but doing the R35 tires a disservice in the climbs. Perhaps some vent holes would help.
They are already vented, but the tires are stiff. The compound is not the sticky R35 from the past, it’s a pretty hard compound.
Cool spot! Weight comparison to a Trx4 sport? What’s that other rig under your Gladiator?
I'd have to dig out my stock sport, maybe I will on friday. I'd have to go see what's under my Gladiator, it was probably the Arrma Mojave.
Is that folsom lake in the intro?
I feel like a gen 8 v2 might be what most people thought this should be
Kinda makes me think Axial made a Element Enduro that has portals. Not saying that’s bad. I’ll order one and see what this is like.
Yes it’s ugly as sin lol BUT It’s supposed to be cheap guys ! It’s for beginners just to get you going to get your foot in the door!
Thats definitely the goal!
The SLT3 throttle limiter does not limit reverse though...😂
I can't say its the worst thing I've seen Axial do, but nothing about it really excites me. It feels like an answer to a question nobody asked.
How fast is this thing? Good Video
- JOSH, is like FOX NEWS... "FAIR & BALANCED" !!!! 😆😂🤣😆👍
That's ridiculous at that price point. If they want to go budget, just offer a III Kit without bodyset! But this release is like 3 steps back down the cliff 🤦🏻♂️
RTR's are what sells though, people just don't want to build and figure out their own electronics.
They missed the mark on price point. But I’m sure there will be $120 coupon in a few months, lol.
@@HarleyDesignsInc NOT everyone.... there's got to be enough Builders left.
Look at the comments! 😉
yeah I'm not too impressed with this one ..... after all the good stuff Axial launched in the last 1.5 years I'm shocked that they would do something like this. Love the name :) Base Camp
I have had a bunch of friends skip axial because the big price tag
So seeing a sub 400 truck from them would bring back a lot of entry level customers
@@Vanquishfanboy thats the one good point to this rig
It's hard to be impressed without really focusing on the price. It was clearly the main focus.
Trx4 sport is still way more appealing to me. The forward motor setup if the trx4 is better for weight distribution.
Forward is good but low is most important. This motor is likely a similar height, maybe a tad lower. The battery is much lower than a TRX4 though. Out of the box this will outperform the TRX4 sport but not by a ton. The TRX4 tires are much better.
looks like great intro to hobby rig, very upgradable.
but some of those parts look bare minimum.
looks like Element might have nice parts per dollar...
but... Just what ya need. none of the extra
Motor ESC swap to HW 1080 and Holmes 13T 550 can, links to VP and servo, just go large. LOL... Body, buy the clear and sticker it up with Tacoma stickers... Tires and Wheels? Go nuts. LOL
Yeah, swapping to a 1080 would be a nice bump in control.
They call it a 5 gear transmission, it's technically a 4 gear. One is a step gear, that allows the switch to 3 gear type. if it were a true 5 gear type (all 5 gears inline then a switch to 3 gear would not change the rotation (reversing the movement). All racing buggy manufacturers have this type of switching (either with a new case or a secondary gear mount). so in mid motor config they can have proper rotation to allow motor on the proper side so the feel in the air (control over rotation of the vehicle) is the same from real motor (3 gear) to mid motor (4 gear). I'm not dunking on it, it's a solid solution for those who don't like dropped axle types. Just pointing out the step gear is probably one piece so though different tooth count, it is not two gears. Axial just made it confusing, Till you showed the transmission, I was trying to figure out how 5 gear to 3 gear was going to reverse rotation (FYI It doesn't). Axial needs to call it what it is a 4 gear stepped reversible transmission
It may be common to call the step gear one gear in racing, but in manufacturing and design it’s still generally considered 2 gears. It’s semantics but I think it’s likely more clear to call it a 5 gear still.
Welcome to the world of Traxxas!!! 😈
TRX4 Sport was released May 2018. To see Axial issue a "me too" 4 years later, and at a higher price point is very disappointing. Enduro, GEN8V2 and TRX4 Sport are all competitors that offer a lower price point. Why purchase this unless you are an Axial fan? Transmission choice is terrible. Keep it simple Axial! 3 gear transmission with forward mounted motor. Have to say I am surprised they didn't use a Jeep Comanche body.
Jeep bodies add expensive licensing costs, so that would be the reason there.
More people should look into RGT, especially if you like element vehicles because they are the same. In fact all crawlers are hsp products.
This is essentially an 86100
Hello from southeast alaska do you have any stickers for my rock crawlers?
whats the weight difference on the trans compared to 3gear?
Maybe I can do that on Friday's live stream
Can this be next budget build off 🤔
"Excuse me waiter? Can I get a side of tire sauce to go with my order?"
I like it, but the 5 gear seems like a gimmick instead of just making the top shaft longer to fit the spur on either side if the trans, and flipping it.
The 5 gear is an odd choice to me as well, it's interesting.
if no one's going to say it I will.... does that not look like the proline metric body???