Daryl gives some quick tips and considerations for towing big loads with your Toyota Tacoma. Shop the products you see on our truck in this video at www.victory4x4.com
Great looking truck! I pull a small toy hauler and 4 dirtbikes with my 2009 tacoma 4.0L 6 speed manual without any problems. Its not fast in the mountains of colorado but it never gets hot or anything. Ive had the oil tested after a few long trips with the trailer and the test showed no additional wear on engine oil. I absolutely love my tacoma! Best vehicle I've ever had by far!
I was reading up on people towing with a 4.7L V8 that was in the Tundra and then towing the same load with the 3.5L V6. The V6 had similar towing results with better gas mileage. Maybe if they updated the 4.7L to something else like they did the old 4.0L V6 to the 3.5L V6?
I like that you are realistic about what your truck can and can't do. Also I like the fact that you mention the mpg and the need for some people to get a bigger truck. When I had camping trailers I always used 3/4 trucks. One with a mounstruos 7.1 gas engine paired to a Allison transmission. But my daily drivig was rough. So, people have to decide what type of truck they want before deciding on the trailer. Therw is a lot of rv dealers that tell you your car can tow anything and that is dangerous.
My father and I collectively own three Taco’s: a V6 TRD Manual, a V6 Prerunner Auto, and I have an I4 base with a 5-speed. The V6 6-speed is the best setup for towing. We are constantly towing cars and enclosed trailers (up to 20ft) with the manual V6 and while it certainly could use some more power: I cannot deny that it is a fantastic towing platform.
I tow an 8x17 toyhauler that weighs 6500 lbs dry with my 2015 4.0 Tacoma. Added airbags and it does the job. Just keep them out of overdrive and speeds around 60mph. Towing is not a race despite what people seem to think. I also have a 2017 f150 2.7 ecoboost which has now broken down twice with only 15k miles on it towing the same trailer.Yes the ford tows it way easier but if it doesn’t get me there 100% of the time it’s useless to me.
I'm sure the Toyota does fine pulling that load but is there enough truck to stop that trailer?? My 93 4 runner v6 5 speed is rated at 3500 pounds and I put a 21 foot boat that weighed fully loaded at 3458 pounds behind it and the boat only had surge brakes. That was the sketchiest ride to Havasu and back. Pulling it even up grades through the desert was fine, it was stopping in town or the thought of an emergency stop that scared the crap out of me
@@Iwish4zombies I almost traded my 15 for a 3rd gen when they came out and the salesman told me to wait til like the 18 yr model came out so the bugs were worked out.
Great video. My wife and i got a 2018 Rockwood Roo and it weighs about 4000 pounds and my truck can tow 6600 or so. I would not want to toe anything heavier. You are absolutely correct about frontal area and drag....The Roo is a big brick for sake of argument. I seriously considered upgrading to a Tundra. I just am afraid about the fuel economy of the Tundra...a wee bit thirsty.
I use my 08 Tacoma with 4.0 to tow cars, so far the biggest car was '15 Toyota Venza V6 AWD. On a 95 miles trip I got 18mpg. This truck is excellent for it!
Beautiful taco, bud. So, I am going to be towing almost the exact same setup as you, however in addition to 4.88 gears which I have, I run heavy duty Dakar leafs, upgraded intake and exhaust, and an OVTune, as well as I spent the money to use lightweight AGM battery for the truck (18 lbs vs 52 lbs), and a bank-breaking lithium ion for the trailer (23 lbs (single) vs 70 (dual)). I love your bumpers, but they (and the winch) must add at least 75-80 lbs. Weight adds up! Regardless, beautiful setup, and thanks for the well-done video.
I have a 2013 Tacoma Sport. I tow a similar narrow trailer called a Jayco Jay Feather 7 22 BHM. I have the long box and wheel base. The trailer dry weighs 4200 lbs and loaded around 4800 with all our weight and crap etc. It is 26.5 feet from the hitch.I can tow no problem for the most part. Long pulls as well I just have to take it easy. Nice set up and Video.
I just purchased a 2018 Toyota Tacoma 4X4 with the V6 and automatic. It is equipped with a tranny cooler, engine oil cooler and a power steering cooler and it's rated @ 6400 lbs towing capacity. I don't in tend to tow anything over 4200 lbs UVW and with my trailer loaded and the back of my truck maybe around 5000 lbs GVWR max.
I towed several small 14 foot boats with my 2003 2wd Tacoma, 2.7L four banger. It towed them with no problems BUT the transmission was the weak link. I now tow a 16 foot cuddy cabin or a 24 foot travel trailer. I did change my tow vehicle to a 5.0L Chevy Express cargo van. I can now go up steep grades with no problems with the AC on! I had a deep sump finned aluminum trans sump added with a secondary external trans cooler. The trans has never got higher than 190 degress even in 110 degree weather.
RYAN TODD I didn't have any problems at all but I wasn't towing far. I don't think I would go much heavier than 4000lbs for an Rv with a Tacoma.. I now have a Tundra so no issues towing now. Good luck
Nice, informative video, thanks. We have a 2017 Taco, not 4X4 that pulls our Casita RV with ease. Casita has very little storage space so we put most of that in the truck bed and have a Tonneau cover. Sometimes we need more to carry a pop up or our blue tank for gray water. Am very interested in your rack above the Tonneau cover, please.
I tow a Coachman 17blse toyhauler, 3750 dry with a weight distribution hitch and a Voyager elec brake control. With my v6, 07 4x4 access can Tacoma. So glad that I say this video to be more aware if my speeds because if trans temps and towing in overdrive. I just never thought about it.
Intense and valuable info bud. To all the needed points. Thanks. You may be the next million mile Toyota owner. You look ready for Grand Canyon, have fun.
I've towed an A-frame and now have an R-Pod with my '17 SR5 V6 Taco. It's got plenty of power for either. They're both around 2400lb empty. I don't use WDH with it. Manual says "sway control for trailers >3000lb, WDH for trailers >5000lb". I'll be adding sway control to the R-Pod. I also added airbags to the rear suspension to level the rear since I'll usually have 100-200lb worth of stuff in the back (paramotor, generator, fuel, tools and bits). The airbags really help with porpoising. With the a-frame, I'd usually get 15.5MPG. The R-Pod is taller, but it is narrower. I expect I'll average about the same, of only slightly less. My last longer trip (about 550 miles one way) towing the A-frame, I monitored trans temps with the Torque Pro app. The highest I saw was about 218, which quickly came back down. When starting, I turn ECT Power on and shift to S4. Once up to speed I turn off ECT Power off, then either shift to S5 or D. It will almost never get into 6th gear. It'll stay in 4th or 5th most of the time. I monitored trans temps while doing this and found that it managed shifting just fine, and never got hot. The peak heat I saw was when I accelerated harder to pass or something like that. Overall I love my Tacoma, and think it's a great TV for smaller and lighter campers.
Nice setup and Tacoma. All trucks outside of super duty size diesels (F250/350), my general rule is stay under half of the tow rating. I own a Tundra and keep my tow eight under 5k. Your math seems consistent with this too. Screw Toyota, change your transmission fluid when it needs it. Tundra fuel economy is just as bad if not worst. Time at the pump is preferred over waiting for another brands fixies or dealing with their issues.
The difference is the wind drag. The big RV's at the back will literally slow the truck down when going down hill! It depends how steep, but by comparison to what you were towing, where it would start to to push you faster down a hill--the RV will actually still be slowing down the truck. And on the flats the RV is constantly fighting against the wind, whereas the buick behind would act more like a 2nd train car. This is what 'they' don't explain regarding the maximum trailer weight rating. Ie. wind drag is huge issue.
You hit the nail on the head! I tow my toy hauler at 5,000 lbs with my 08 4.0L screaming. 7 mpg. I never want to see 6500 lbs. Best thing is the long wheel base keeps it good and stable.
Thanks for this. The one thing I worry about though is how little people talk about the GCWR--it is an essential number as it is what our vehicle is rated to haul and pull all at the same time. The GCWR of the '18 taco is 11,360, if you are towing 3800 dry I assume you are probably at 4400 fully loaded, plus the weight of the truck at 4450, yours is heavier with those beautiful wheels, tires and bumpers which puts you at, let's say, 9300 pounds. That leaves about 2000 pounds for people and payload and you have to include the tongue weight in the payload which leaves you with about 1500 for people and what is in the bed of the truck. You have to be at or max/the limit. Now, to be sure, often the factory GCWR limit is determined based on the limit of factory tires which are no where as tough as what you have. But, you must be running at max. We have to stop what we pull... The GCWR is about brake capacity as well. For everyone out there, get your trailer weighed when it is loaded up--it is amazing how much all our stuff weighs...thanks again, you have a nice looking rig, be safe out there.
Just bought a 2021 Taco. Gonna be towing a 20 travel trailer thats 3200lbs dry. Was towing it with a Sequoia 04 with 4.7. I would not want to tow anything any heavier. Flat low elevation teran should be no problem. Elevation and then air is a concern.
I have a 16 Tacoma on 35s. As far as I know there hasn't been a gear change, just some sort of tune. It's a v6 automatic. I had a Cummins before and had my turbo LS truck at a shop 2 hours away on Arkansas version of mountain roads, had to go get it so I used the Taco. A 4000lb truck on a 18ft steel open trailer that I'm guessing weighs between 1800-2000lbs. So I was at or a little over the towing capacity. It did it. Tacomas on 35s aren't fast anyways and the brakes are touchy so of course that gets worse. I have overload springs and a proper drop hitch and it still squatted the truck alot. Made a 2 hour trip into a almost 3 hour trip just driving safely as possible but it did it. And if I knew it was only a 45min trip I'd do it again. I had a buddy with a 07 Tacoma 4cyl manual tow the same trailer and a turbo LS Fairmont for a few hundred miles more than once and it made it safely every time. I don't think any of us bought tacos to tow with or even get great mpg with, especially those of us with 6" lifts and 35s, but it's nice to know it's possible. Honestly tho, late 90s and early 00s diesels are available for $5k-$8k in my area and it'd be smart to have a dedicated tow pig
I love your setting on your truck bed. Super cool. We are a bike racing family and always carry five bikes with us on my camper and truck. 4-6K rpm on a highway with towing sounds a bit crazy!
Using my overland taco rig, I towed my camper that has a dry weight of 4400lbs and when loaded it’s probably around 5200lbs…it drove great. I had no issues but lately I’ve been thinking about adding some airbags, better bump stops and changing the rear shocks to some 2.5 smooth body shocks with DCAs to just improve the overall ride quality. I don’t tow it all the time. I have it parked for months on end then when I start a new project elsewhere, I then move it. Am I dumb for having all this weight when I do tow it?
Darryl - we tow the Apex Nano 193 BHS with our 2017 Taco and it’s the sweet spot like you said. I definitely wouldn’t go any heavier. Running 33’s on 2.5” lift and also get the same 8-10mpg like you.
Three important need things needed for towel heavy with smaller trucks 1) add trailer brake control 2) add overload rear springs 3) replace factory brakes with better ones
I have a 2017 Tacoma Sport. I bought a used 2003 Accord. Towed it home on a tow dolly and my truck did great. Any steep hills or stopping on a hill suck. But i have a 6 speed.
I tow a 20' 3800 lbs dry ski boat with my 2017 TRD OR DCSB. With fuel, dual axle trailer, camping gear for a week, I'm pulling around 6,000 lbs. I pulled from 300 ft to 5,500 ft. doing 55 mph. 8 mpg and kept the transmission temp below 240. I installed airbags to keep it riding a bit more controlled. Overall, it did just fine. Part of it is driver and knowing that it is not a race. Part of it is knowing this shortens the life of your truck. The 3.5 v6 on this truck is powerful at the higher revs, keep it there and the truck will be happy. If you are towing every weekend and like to race, this is not the truck for you. Get yourself a nice 3/4 or 1 ton and hammer down. But if you're like me, live in the city, tow carefully and about twice a week, this will be plenty for your needs. Use trucks to their fullest. Otherwise, go buy a Ridgline.
Good post. You must lease that truck cuz ur killing it. Hey to each his own Ryan. Everyone’s comfort level is certainly different. No disrespect brother good luck. Let me dare to ask why not a tundra?? Make sense?
I got a 2016 Tacoma which I really like. MPG’s are 20 in summer, 18 in winter. I’m kind of surprised that Toyota gives this truck a 6400 lb rating but then doesn’t give you a tow haul mode. Manual says to put tranny in “s” mode without using the “ECT” button . I think that peoples version of towing this or that with no problem varies. I’ve towed a Coleman TT at 3800 lbs with a rather flat front with distribution bars and I can say that people are bullshitting themselves. If you plan on towing, get the tundra because the Tacoma is not really designed for towing. Toyota has balls for giving a 6400 lb limit. Someone is gonna get killed. This is coming from a true Toyota fan boy. I only buy Toyota. But really?? Sorry for the rant. I love my Tacoma but if I wanted to tow on a regular basis, it wouldn’t be in this truck
I would be willing to bet that if you look on the inside of your drivers door and see what the trucks max payload weight is, you are over it. Payload is based on a stock truck. With the 2 aftermarket bumpers and winch, all the gear in the back, assuming 2 passengers and the tongue weight on the trailer all add up really quickly for payload weight. Just trying to keep you safe. And the WD hitch counts too.
Nice setup. I'm towing a Jayco hybrid, dry weight 3750 (4200 loaded), 8 ft wide. Tacoma does fine except for strong headwinds. What's your setup/products on your bed? I'm wanting to be able to carry a couple kayaks and maybe a couple bicycles too. I have the stock bed cover on mine as well.
Lift package, bumpers, winch(?), tire size, rims all affect the tow package parameters. The bumpers alone are likely 1-200lbs difference. I have an ARB winch bumper, Warn winch, 265 tires, 3" lift, topper, oan the Access cab though, so there is likely 3-400lbs off the payload, but the Access cab is likley 150lbs lighter than the double cab. All that has to be considered.
I wonder if the ZR2 diesel would get noticeably better fuel economy. I’m a taco guy all around but that zR2 is finally something that makes me take a glance elsewhere. :)
Red pilled patriot Possibly. But the tow rating for the ZR2 is significantly less than the Z71 because of the suspension on it - so that creates a bit of a dilemma.
Red pilled patriot Cheby ¿. Big bad (literally) bow die Do your tuxedos come with those g strings or are those extra? Just want to get it straight Chevy isn’t ready for the whole coming out of the garage thing.
Keep in mind diesel fuel costs a bit more, but 30mpg is really good. Best i’ve gotten with my Tacoma is 26. I just don’t like the way the door lines rise to the back, exaggerates the stink bug effect it already has, imo.
@@JimmyMakingitwork I agree, it looks super weird. Its like one of those goofy toy cars where the rear is bigger than the front. As if the back of the truck was scaled up. I can't get over how awkward it looks. The tacoma looks way more conventional.
Nice truck, cool vid. I got the 2019 SR5 and RV dealers keep saying 6,800 max cap, and yes while book says the same, door says GVWR of 5,600 cap. Dealers will say anything just to get the say and sell you a lot of stuff. I even had salesmen ask if I'd get a bigger truck. Why can't they sell you what you need? As a mechanic, I'm not burning up truck or risking injury to ourselves and others on road. So do your homework, cause once you buy the trailer, it's yours!
I barely heard what you were saying cuz I was taking in that truck lol. I have a grey 18 4runner off road, similar clean look and stance to yours. Nice truck man!
Good video and info on the Tacoma. I have the 2021 Tacoma 2 wheel drive and as soon as I hook to any empty trailer I get 15 miles to the gallon PERIOD. . The manual says you can PULL 6500 LBS which like you I would not want to do it for anything.. And without a brake controller installed on any truck . How can a person or manual say it Tows 6500 LBS if you cannot stop anything over 1000 LBS to 1500 LBS trailer towing safely and handeling it correctly Without a brake controller and a empty 1900 LBS car hauler I had to make a fairly quick stop and that trailer was pushing me pretty hard...Very unsafe Oh Yeah The 2021 TUNDRA 4X4 gets 12 MPG if you baby it on the highway and then when you hook to a trailer and you'll be stopping to feed that 33 Gallon gas tank really soon 8-10 MPG with any or up to 1900 LBS trailer or less. I heard Toyota is going to be changing their truck motors options soon on the gas V-8 Oh yeah I just ordered a brake controller for my tacoma. Maybe in the nnear future I can slow down a trailer safely
I just bought a Taco and I’m interested in towing a camper. Could you please point to the parts you talk about in your videos? Specifically your hitch and sway controller. Thank you.
I towed a 5K load (3 series BMW on a steel tandem car trailer) the way from NJ to WA state in the dead of winter a couple years ago without any issue whatsoever...(including mountain passes) with my 2008 4.0 6spd MT TRD OFf Road Tacoma....Never used 5th gear and took it slow and easy though. those P3 brake controllers are a quick and easy install and definitely worth the $!… The MPG did suck though...Barely over 10! 😝
You have your Tacoma rigged super nice 👍 I had the Tacoma 2012 loaded. Today I drive a full size 2020 GMC Elevation 2.7 Turbo and love how it tows from Miami, Fla to the Smoky Mountains. RV Dry weight 3780 19ft long and total wgt with passengers & gear 4800; Fuel avg 10-11 mpg's but when i stay in Florida 12-13 mpg's. Fuel is major, i have paid round trip $740 in fuel and for an extra 2 mpg's gained that changed to $400 and yes fuel prices are great now but will they stay that way? As for power I can no longer see myself in a Truck with less torque then engine HP's. That torque is needed in many scenarios more so when climbing. On east coast, short mountains but steep grades. Been to Colorado and that's massive lol especially on the IKE with a 7% grade and 11k feet in elevation. But for the most part the grades and turns were pleasant. Also love how my new trucks transmission breaks on the down hills. My Tacoma just didn't do that with our last trailer 3300 dry weight. All we own in this house is Toyota with the exception of my "pickup crew cab" Appreciate the video. My change came since i tow often my boat and we RV camp every chance we get. So towing for me is important.
I tow a 22' Winnbago Micro Minnie. 4300lbs dry. it used to struggle in steep spots. put a Magnuson on it. no longer. ATS overload HD leafs, hammer hangers with cross brace, blue ox WD hitch, redarc brake controller, 32" Baja boss SL load, 2.5" billstein lift, sliders and a skid. towing with 35's seems like hell on this truck. I can understand your hesitation to tow over 3800lbs. to each his own.
I really wish they made a good 3000lb fifth wheel, which would be perfect for the Tacoma. I've been window shopping for a fifthwheel, but I've also really wanting a Tacoma over a Tundra for my every day needs.
I would be curious to see what the weight of that setup scales at. My RV has a dry weight of 9000lbs...actually weight is 12900lbs. When you start reading the fine print and figure out what is not included in the "base weight" you will be stunned. For example, one of the slides on my RV was not included in the base weight because it was an option. The RV industry is notorious for overloading equipment. It is a very nice looking setup.
Thank you for sharing this video! It is not easy to find detailed info on towing RV’s with light Toyota trucks. Im purchasing a travel trailer for my 08 4runner V8 4x4. These built trucks often exceed GVWR on their own. If not, they exceed combined GVWR with an RV. If not, they exceed max payload and if not, they exceed max rear axle load rating. Curious to know if your Taco is above GCWR, or rear axle load. Diesel truck owners have the same issues with their rigs. It isn’t a matter of truck size, but the factory ratings themselves. How do we manage these overages when towing large rigs with built 4x4’s? Here’s my setup: • ‘08 4runner V8 fully “overland built” on 33’s with cargo and passengers will weigh right around 6000lbs. Below GVWR and below 1475lbs. max payload • Next summer: Keystone 220 Bullet RBI, at 26’ overall, 4700lbs dry, ~5700lbs loaded with empty fresh tank. • Trailer weight is below the 7k max rating. • Tongue weight is be below 700lbs rating. • Gross combined weight of truck and rig will be just under the 12k max rating. • However Tongue weight + payload (including bumpers, winch, people etc.) can easily exceed rated payload and more specifically rear axle load rating. Something to consider, and perhaps weigh your entire rig and update your channel with the results? I’ll do the same when i pick up a trailer.
Drag is your issue towing. It really doesn’t matter if you use a Tundra, or a 150 or a 250. Drag is drag. With more power it’ll be easier to accelerate and easier to hold speed, but you’ll still be in that 10-12mpg.
Conversely towed a 6 x 12 U Haul cargo trailer behind my 4 liter SOHC Ford Ranger and I got 17 mpg @55 mph loaded. Way lower and less frontal area and than a big camper.
I'm towing a 23cb jayco hybrid with a bone stock 09 trd taco. Through the mountains in northern canada. It handles fine. At 5200 but that's 80% of the tow rating. Tongue weight is 650 lbs by the way with the class iv hitch factory. Cross winds are about the only thing I really dislike and full disclosure I'm a commercial driver so I may be a little more experienced then some. They are a good truck but that fuel range is killer. I get about 250 km to a tank. Which isnt really much range when it's about 150 to a good camp ground.
Nice!! We bought a 17ft KZ camper last fall that tops out at 2,800 lbs, dry 2,200. I’m thinking we are not even half way there on towing capacity. Looking to taking it out this year.
Just happen to run across your comment. Please note that being less than half of your towing capacity is not the only important factor. The aerodynamic front, width and height of the TT are very important. Also the type of transmission you have is important. For example my Nissan Frontier has a towing capacity of 6400 lbs and I pull a Wolf Pup 16 FQ at 3200 lbs. My truck is a six speed automatic. The newer Frontiers have a 9 speed automatic that tows smoother than mine. I can also really feel the drag on hills and inclines.
That is a sweet looking truck! Looks like a beast. That is one feature I love about my 18' Chevy Colorado. I can see my transmission temp and tire pressure on the dash with the press of a button on my steering wheel. Didn't get above 148deg F on my cross country tow of around 4,800 lbs in a cargo trailer. The 8spd transmission has a granny first gear and seems to adapt very well/instantly for towing. Got 15.1 mpg with my 4WD. Not making any changes to increase off road. My fuel economy and towing would likely plummet. Well... maybe skids and a front locker would be nice. Lol
I keep hearing about not running in the higher gears when towing. My GMC had a towing button that locked out the overdrive gears. How do I do that in my Tacoma?
Can't believe you had something even bigger than this 25' Apex with the same 1/2 ton truck. My Nissan Frontier is probably the smallest of the 1/2 tons with a towing capacity of 6400 lbs. I pull a small 15' Wolf pup travel trailer that weighs around 3200 lbs. Even at 50% of its max rating I can really feel the drag especially on hills. The gas mileage suffers but good God not 7 - 10 mpg but around 15 to 16 mpg from the max of 23 without the load
Great video sir. I have a Nissan Frontier with a 6500 tow limit with 35s and a 5in lift. I'm doing a 5.6 Titan motor swap hopefully to ease the towing rpms.
We have an 07 Toyota pre runner v6 4.0 with tow package. Just got a trailer… dry weight 4995. Several people at the dealer confirmed we can pull 6500. And signed a form that we are ok. Your thoughts????
First thing I do with any automatic truck is add a trans temp gauge. My 03 double cab was towing a 3500 lbs camper trailer & I ended up havine to add a external cool as the stock one built into the rad sucks.
So interesting question, how do you feel about being over the stock payload? Seems like with passengers + gear etc you’d be a decent amount over what is stated by Toyota. Obviously doable, but what is your thought on that?
I just bought a 2022 Tacoma TRD off road 4WD, but I will only use it for light trailering and mostly weekend fun, bikes, kayaks and the like. Yeah, I've always questioned the wisdom of Toyota giving such a high tow rating for this truck. I would only consider a diesel for towing anything over 4000 pounds.
Chris, I assume you are asking about his gen 3 with 6" and 35s. I can comment on Gen 2 similar set up, BDS 35s KO2s on 2011 Gen 2 which ranges from 15-16mpg around town Winter/Summer, to 19-20mpg at 65mph Winter/Summer with a couple bikes and gear. Gen 2 auto holds 5th gear easily (stock gearing). I'm very pleased with mpg after 6" and 35s.
I tow a 1500lb boat with my 4.0 Tacoma and it does fine, but I wouldn't go much over 3K, unless it was a short haul. Bad gas mileage and a loud motor isn't pleasant.
I didn't believe no one mentioned the huge tires.... can't pull with 35" tires with a v6 3.5 .. he wants to kill his truck???? I've install 31.6 " on my 17 trd and fuel economy droped.. and power too! ... imagine pulling with 35" 🤦♂️ I love his truck..looks awsome .
Have you ever gone onto a CAT scale fully loaded to determine actual tow weight? I have an apex nano 191 single axel 19' trailer and a 15 4x4 taco club cab and we weighed 9110 lbs fully loaded no water in trailer tank. By my calculation subtracting 4100 lbs for truck alone I am at 5,000 lbs. my taco struggles on the Up hills quite a bit.
Have not done that yet. Makes sense though because dry weight of a travel trailer doesn't include the battery, propane tank(s), and other dealer installed accessories. Plus the curb weight of the Tacoma could be low as well depending on options.
Hi, first love your setup. I have a 2013 Xspx 2x4 4.0L Tacoma short bed with tow package. I’m wanting to buy a travel camper and am getting all kinds of different weights to buy, can you guide me a little to what you think is a good camper that would work with my truck, etc make, single axel or double ..... appreciate any help.
I tow a mini Kubota backhoe , 4400lbs all in with trailer with a stock 4cyl 5 speed 2016 taco . never get into 5th and are not passing anyone but other wise, pulls with little problem . trailer has surge brakes.
I just got 17.1 Mpgs towing my friends broke down civic on a uhaul dolly uphill for 30 miles. I was able to go 60 mph+ up long grades (68 at one point ;) ) I have a '19 TRD Off-Road 6spd. manual! I got almost 20 mpgs towing our Coleman pop-up tent trailer over 90 miles to the California coast 60-70% up hill on the way there. I didn't feel either of the things being towed that much. But... I have a '19 5X10 tandem dump trailer that weighs 2060 lbs. dry and my truck hates taking off up hills. like totally stalls and has no bottom end. had to put it in 4 LO.. SMH
Hey Stud.. I'm more interested in the kayak and bike set up!! What do you have going on there?? I have an 05 taco with access cab and the same color.. Nice set up you have there though!!
Do we notice there's no follow-up video? Would it be helpful to see during and after tow footage? How was his experience? Did he tow in or through the mnts? Does he still tow this setup? The lack of follow-up leaves us wondering?
I have a question.. After you hook the trailer up to your Tacoma is there a button in the Tacoma truck that you press in order to tow or you can just put the truck in drive and go ahead and tow?
Victory 4x4 I did not purchase the tow package and have changed my mind on a small pop up camper. I’ve installed a tranny cooler but no oil cooler. Think I’m ok? 2013 v6 4.0 taco - I feel like the tranny is more to worry about than oil temps
Great looking truck! I pull a small toy hauler and 4 dirtbikes with my 2009 tacoma 4.0L 6 speed manual without any problems. Its not fast in the mountains of colorado but it never gets hot or anything. Ive had the oil tested after a few long trips with the trailer and the test showed no additional wear on engine oil. I absolutely love my tacoma! Best vehicle I've ever had by far!
What’s the total weight of the toy hauler ?
@TheMac1327 fully loaded I think the trailer weighs about 5000 lbs
They should put the 4.7 v8 in the tacoma I think that motor would best serve this truck!
I was reading up on people towing with a 4.7L V8 that was in the Tundra and then towing the same load with the 3.5L V6. The V6 had similar towing results with better gas mileage. Maybe if they updated the 4.7L to something else like they did the old 4.0L V6 to the 3.5L V6?
Or go back to something like the 4.0 instead of this new 3.5 trash
There's plenty of room under that hood for a V8.
No idea why that is not an option.
8 MPG highway towing???
That's about 170 miles on a tank! (YIKES)
4.5 diesel twin turbo from Toyota.
Blu3D5vi7 I have a ‘06 Tacoma w/ the 4.0, quite strong as is but I wish it had a small high output V 8, then it would be absolutely perfect!
I like that you are realistic about what your truck can and can't do.
Also I like the fact that you mention the mpg and the need for some people to get a bigger truck.
When I had camping trailers I always used 3/4 trucks. One with a mounstruos 7.1 gas engine paired to a Allison transmission. But my daily drivig was rough.
So, people have to decide what type of truck they want before deciding on the trailer.
Therw is a lot of rv dealers that tell you your car can tow anything and that is dangerous.
My father and I collectively own three Taco’s: a V6 TRD Manual, a V6 Prerunner Auto, and I have an I4 base with a 5-speed. The V6 6-speed is the best setup for towing. We are constantly towing cars and enclosed trailers (up to 20ft) with the manual V6 and while it certainly could use some more power: I cannot deny that it is a fantastic towing platform.
We are looking at a 2016 TRD manual hoping that it will tow our 23' boat. It weighs around 5,000 lbs. What are your thoughts?
Fantastic towing platform is a stretch.
This taco looks absolutely beautiful.
Ya it looks pretty badass
I tow an 8x17 toyhauler that weighs 6500 lbs dry with my 2015 4.0 Tacoma. Added airbags and it does the job. Just keep them out of overdrive and speeds around 60mph. Towing is not a race despite what people seem to think. I also have a 2017 f150 2.7 ecoboost which has now broken down twice with only 15k miles on it towing the same trailer.Yes the ford tows it way easier but if it doesn’t get me there 100% of the time it’s useless to me.
Thats a big load! Do you add any additional weight to it?
Believe me don’t sell that 15 and get a turd-gen taco. Nothing but problems for me
I'm sure the Toyota does fine pulling that load but is there enough truck to stop that trailer?? My 93 4 runner v6 5 speed is rated at 3500 pounds and I put a 21 foot boat that weighed fully loaded at 3458 pounds behind it and the boat only had surge brakes. That was the sketchiest ride to Havasu and back. Pulling it even up grades through the desert was fine, it was stopping in town or the thought of an emergency stop that scared the crap out of me
@@Iwish4zombies I almost traded my 15 for a 3rd gen when they came out and the salesman told me to wait til like the 18 yr model came out so the bugs were worked out.
D SAL I just got a 2019, that means I'm safe?
I have a 2013 tacoma with a 4.0 and pull a 32.9 ft sunset trail camper. Dry weight is 5700 lbs and haven’t had any problem pulling it
Great video. My wife and i got a 2018 Rockwood Roo and it weighs about 4000 pounds and my truck can tow 6600 or so. I would not want to toe anything heavier. You are absolutely correct about frontal area and drag....The Roo is a big brick for sake of argument. I seriously considered upgrading to a Tundra. I just am afraid about the fuel economy of the Tundra...a wee bit thirsty.
I use my 08 Tacoma with 4.0 to tow cars, so far the biggest car was '15 Toyota Venza V6 AWD. On a 95 miles trip I got 18mpg. This truck is excellent for it!
Beautiful taco, bud. So, I am going to be towing almost the exact same setup as you, however in addition to 4.88 gears which I have, I run heavy duty Dakar leafs, upgraded intake and exhaust, and an OVTune, as well as I spent the money to use lightweight AGM battery for the truck (18 lbs vs 52 lbs), and a bank-breaking lithium ion for the trailer (23 lbs (single) vs 70 (dual)). I love your bumpers, but they (and the winch) must add at least 75-80 lbs. Weight adds up! Regardless, beautiful setup, and thanks for the well-done video.
I have a 2013 Tacoma Sport. I tow a similar narrow trailer called a Jayco Jay Feather 7 22 BHM. I have the long box and wheel base. The trailer dry weighs 4200 lbs and loaded around 4800 with all our weight and crap etc. It is 26.5 feet from the hitch.I can tow no problem for the most part. Long pulls as well I just have to take it easy. Nice set up and Video.
I just purchased a 2018 Toyota Tacoma 4X4 with the V6 and automatic. It is equipped with a tranny cooler, engine oil cooler and a power steering cooler and it's rated @ 6400 lbs towing capacity. I don't in tend to tow anything over 4200 lbs UVW and with my trailer loaded and the back of my truck maybe around 5000 lbs GVWR max.
I towed several small 14 foot boats with my 2003 2wd Tacoma, 2.7L four banger. It towed them with no problems BUT the transmission was the weak link.
I now tow a 16 foot cuddy cabin or a 24 foot travel trailer. I did change my tow vehicle to a 5.0L Chevy Express cargo van. I can now go up steep grades with no problems with the AC on! I had a deep sump finned aluminum trans sump added with a secondary external trans cooler. The trans has never got higher than 190 degress even in 110 degree weather.
I tow a 25ft coachman which weighs 5000lbs dry with my 2016 Tacoma with no problems. Truck is rated at 6800 lbs with the tow pkg
have you had any problems since then? looking at towing a 28 foot with 5500 lbs
RYAN TODD I didn't have any problems at all but I wasn't towing far. I don't think I would go much heavier than 4000lbs for an Rv with a Tacoma.. I now have a Tundra so no issues towing now. Good luck
Nice, informative video, thanks. We have a 2017 Taco, not 4X4 that pulls our Casita RV with ease. Casita has very little storage space so we put most of that in the truck bed and have a Tonneau cover. Sometimes we need more to carry a pop up or our blue tank for gray water. Am very interested in your rack above the Tonneau cover, please.
your truck looks amazing. i've been going back and forth with the idea to get a tacoma or tundra.
Which one did you get
@@mannymotta2174looks like neother.
I tow a Coachman 17blse toyhauler, 3750 dry with a weight distribution hitch and a Voyager elec brake control. With my v6, 07 4x4 access can Tacoma. So glad that I say this video to be more aware if my speeds because if trans temps and towing in overdrive. I just never thought about it.
Intense and valuable info bud. To all the needed points. Thanks. You may be the next million mile Toyota owner. You look ready for Grand Canyon, have fun.
I've towed an A-frame and now have an R-Pod with my '17 SR5 V6 Taco. It's got plenty of power for either. They're both around 2400lb empty. I don't use WDH with it. Manual says "sway control for trailers >3000lb, WDH for trailers >5000lb". I'll be adding sway control to the R-Pod. I also added airbags to the rear suspension to level the rear since I'll usually have 100-200lb worth of stuff in the back (paramotor, generator, fuel, tools and bits). The airbags really help with porpoising. With the a-frame, I'd usually get 15.5MPG. The R-Pod is taller, but it is narrower. I expect I'll average about the same, of only slightly less.
My last longer trip (about 550 miles one way) towing the A-frame, I monitored trans temps with the Torque Pro app. The highest I saw was about 218, which quickly came back down. When starting, I turn ECT Power on and shift to S4. Once up to speed I turn off ECT Power off, then either shift to S5 or D. It will almost never get into 6th gear. It'll stay in 4th or 5th most of the time. I monitored trans temps while doing this and found that it managed shifting just fine, and never got hot. The peak heat I saw was when I accelerated harder to pass or something like that.
Overall I love my Tacoma, and think it's a great TV for smaller and lighter campers.
I have a 2018 trd sport DBL with 6ft bed, 2019 Jayco x23b & I usually average 10.8-11.5 towing.
Nice setup and Tacoma. All trucks outside of super duty size diesels (F250/350), my general rule is stay under half of the tow rating. I own a Tundra and keep my tow eight under 5k. Your math seems consistent with this too.
Screw Toyota, change your transmission fluid when it needs it.
Tundra fuel economy is just as bad if not worst. Time at the pump is preferred over waiting for another brands fixies or dealing with their issues.
Towed an old Buick on a trailer over the weekend about 6,600 lbs. Tacoma handled it better than my old Silverado did last time I towed that car
The difference is the wind drag. The big RV's at the back will literally slow the truck down when going down hill! It depends how steep, but by comparison to what you were towing, where it would start to to push you faster down a hill--the RV will actually still be slowing down the truck. And on the flats the RV is constantly fighting against the wind, whereas the buick behind would act more like a 2nd train car. This is what 'they' don't explain regarding the maximum trailer weight rating. Ie. wind drag is huge issue.
You hit the nail on the head! I tow my toy hauler at 5,000 lbs with my 08 4.0L screaming. 7 mpg. I never want to see 6500 lbs. Best thing is the long wheel base keeps it good and stable.
Thanks for this. The one thing I worry about though is how little people talk about the GCWR--it is an essential number as it is what our vehicle is rated to haul and pull all at the same time. The GCWR of the '18 taco is 11,360, if you are towing 3800 dry I assume you are probably at 4400 fully loaded, plus the weight of the truck at 4450, yours is heavier with those beautiful wheels, tires and bumpers which puts you at, let's say, 9300 pounds. That leaves about 2000 pounds for people and payload and you have to include the tongue weight in the payload which leaves you with about 1500 for people and what is in the bed of the truck. You have to be at or max/the limit. Now, to be sure, often the factory GCWR limit is determined based on the limit of factory tires which are no where as tough as what you have. But, you must be running at max. We have to stop what we pull... The GCWR is about brake capacity as well. For everyone out there, get your trailer weighed when it is loaded up--it is amazing how much all our stuff weighs...thanks again, you have a nice looking rig, be safe out there.
Yup! Brakes are critical to this equation. No way he isn’t overloaded here
Just bought a 2021 Taco. Gonna be towing a 20 travel trailer thats 3200lbs dry. Was towing it with a Sequoia 04 with 4.7. I would not want to tow anything any heavier. Flat low elevation teran should be no problem. Elevation and then air is a concern.
Thanks for the video. I have a 2012 Tacoma TRD sport looking to tow a light toy hauler with 3-4 dirt bikes. This was very informative. Thank you
How does it tow?
I have a 16 Tacoma on 35s. As far as I know there hasn't been a gear change, just some sort of tune. It's a v6 automatic. I had a Cummins before and had my turbo LS truck at a shop 2 hours away on Arkansas version of mountain roads, had to go get it so I used the Taco. A 4000lb truck on a 18ft steel open trailer that I'm guessing weighs between 1800-2000lbs. So I was at or a little over the towing capacity. It did it. Tacomas on 35s aren't fast anyways and the brakes are touchy so of course that gets worse. I have overload springs and a proper drop hitch and it still squatted the truck alot. Made a 2 hour trip into a almost 3 hour trip just driving safely as possible but it did it. And if I knew it was only a 45min trip I'd do it again. I had a buddy with a 07 Tacoma 4cyl manual tow the same trailer and a turbo LS Fairmont for a few hundred miles more than once and it made it safely every time. I don't think any of us bought tacos to tow with or even get great mpg with, especially those of us with 6" lifts and 35s, but it's nice to know it's possible. Honestly tho, late 90s and early 00s diesels are available for $5k-$8k in my area and it'd be smart to have a dedicated tow pig
I love your setting on your truck bed. Super cool. We are a bike racing family and always carry five bikes with us on my camper and truck. 4-6K rpm on a highway with towing sounds a bit crazy!
Using my overland taco rig, I towed my camper that has a dry weight of 4400lbs and when loaded it’s probably around 5200lbs…it drove great. I had no issues but lately I’ve been thinking about adding some airbags, better bump stops and changing the rear shocks to some 2.5 smooth body shocks with DCAs to just improve the overall ride quality. I don’t tow it all the time. I have it parked for months on end then when I start a new project elsewhere, I then move it.
Am I dumb for having all this weight when I do tow it?
Awesome Setup! I have been trying to decide between the Tundra and the Tacoma........ Looks like I may have to get a Tundra....Dang it! lol
Yup! Good choice! People here are modding the Taco just to tow. Tundra can do it out of the box.
Darryl - we tow the Apex Nano 193 BHS with our 2017 Taco and it’s the sweet spot like you said. I definitely wouldn’t go any heavier. Running 33’s on 2.5” lift and also get the same 8-10mpg like you.
Dream truck.
One day.
You have a pretty nice setup btw
Three important need things needed for towel heavy with smaller trucks
1) add trailer brake control
2) add overload rear springs
3) replace factory brakes with better ones
And don't install 35" tires !!! When pulling..
frankcastle7777 why would you need better factory brakes? Trailer has brakes.
Great video, looking to hual a travel trailer with my tocama offroad 4x4. I will be looking at a lite to stay in that 3,000-4'000 dry weight
I have a 2017 Tacoma Sport. I bought a used 2003 Accord. Towed it home on a tow dolly and my truck did great. Any steep hills or stopping on a hill suck. But i have a 6 speed.
I tow a 20' 3800 lbs dry ski boat with my 2017 TRD OR DCSB. With fuel, dual axle trailer, camping gear for a week, I'm pulling around 6,000 lbs. I pulled from 300 ft to 5,500 ft. doing 55 mph. 8 mpg and kept the transmission temp below 240. I installed airbags to keep it riding a bit more controlled. Overall, it did just fine. Part of it is driver and knowing that it is not a race. Part of it is knowing this shortens the life of your truck. The 3.5 v6 on this truck is powerful at the higher revs, keep it there and the truck will be happy.
If you are towing every weekend and like to race, this is not the truck for you. Get yourself a nice 3/4 or 1 ton and hammer down. But if you're like me, live in the city, tow carefully and about twice a week, this will be plenty for your needs. Use trucks to their fullest. Otherwise, go buy a Ridgline.
How do you installed the air bags to control the towing?
Good post. You must lease that truck cuz ur killing it. Hey to each his own Ryan. Everyone’s comfort level is certainly different. No disrespect brother good luck. Let me dare to ask why not a tundra?? Make sense?
@@mannymotta2174 posted this almost 4 years ago. Ended selling it. Needed more room for a growing family.
I got a 2016 Tacoma which I really like. MPG’s are 20 in summer, 18 in winter. I’m kind of surprised that Toyota gives this truck a 6400 lb rating but then doesn’t give you a tow haul mode. Manual says to put tranny in “s” mode without using the “ECT” button . I think that peoples version of towing this or that with no problem varies. I’ve towed a Coleman TT at 3800 lbs with a rather flat front with distribution bars and I can say that people are bullshitting themselves. If you plan on towing, get the tundra because the Tacoma is not really designed for towing. Toyota has balls for giving a 6400 lb limit. Someone is gonna get killed. This is coming from a true Toyota fan boy. I only buy Toyota. But really?? Sorry for the rant. I love my Tacoma but if I wanted to tow on a regular basis, it wouldn’t be in this truck
I would be willing to bet that if you look on the inside of your drivers door and see what the trucks max payload weight is, you are over it. Payload is based on a stock truck. With the 2 aftermarket bumpers and winch, all the gear in the back, assuming 2 passengers and the tongue weight on the trailer all add up really quickly for payload weight. Just trying to keep you safe. And the WD hitch counts too.
Nice setup. I'm towing a Jayco hybrid, dry weight 3750 (4200 loaded), 8 ft wide. Tacoma does fine except for strong headwinds.
What's your setup/products on your bed? I'm wanting to be able to carry a couple kayaks and maybe a couple bicycles too. I have the stock bed cover on mine as well.
I have a 2009 Tacoma with automatic transmission. Why shouldn't I tow in overdrive?
It will overheat the transmission
Lift package, bumpers, winch(?), tire size, rims all affect the tow package parameters. The bumpers alone are likely 1-200lbs difference. I have an ARB winch bumper, Warn winch, 265 tires, 3" lift, topper, oan the Access cab though, so there is likely 3-400lbs off the payload, but the Access cab is likley 150lbs lighter than the double cab. All that has to be considered.
I wonder if the ZR2 diesel would get noticeably better fuel economy. I’m a taco guy all around but that zR2 is finally something that makes me take a glance elsewhere. :)
Red pilled patriot Possibly. But the tow rating for the ZR2 is significantly less than the Z71 because of the suspension on it - so that creates a bit of a dilemma.
Red pilled patriot yeah... Having a diesel option in the midsize truck market is very tempting. I hate the look of the Colorado tho.
Red pilled patriot
Cheby ¿. Big bad (literally) bow die
Do your tuxedos come with those g strings or are those extra? Just want to get it straight
Chevy isn’t ready for the whole coming out of the garage thing.
Keep in mind diesel fuel costs a bit more, but 30mpg is really good. Best i’ve gotten with my Tacoma is 26.
I just don’t like the way the door lines rise to the back, exaggerates the stink bug effect it already has, imo.
@@JimmyMakingitwork I agree, it looks super weird. Its like one of those goofy toy cars where the rear is bigger than the front. As if the back of the truck was scaled up. I can't get over how awkward it looks. The tacoma looks way more conventional.
Nice truck, cool vid. I got the 2019 SR5 and RV dealers keep saying 6,800 max cap, and yes while book says the same, door says GVWR of 5,600 cap. Dealers will say anything just to get the say and sell you a lot of stuff. I even had salesmen ask if I'd get a bigger truck. Why can't they sell you what you need? As a mechanic, I'm not burning up truck or risking injury to ourselves and others on road. So do your homework, cause once you buy the trailer, it's yours!
I barely heard what you were saying cuz I was taking in that truck lol. I have a grey 18 4runner off road, similar clean look and stance to yours. Nice truck man!
I totally agree with messing with the height of the hitch. Good work!
What kind of rims, tires, and lift do you have on your Tacoma it looks amazing.
Good video and info on the Tacoma. I have the 2021 Tacoma 2 wheel drive and as soon as I hook to any empty trailer I get 15 miles to the gallon PERIOD. . The manual says you can PULL 6500 LBS which like you I would not want to do it for anything.. And without a brake controller installed on any truck . How can a person or manual say it Tows 6500 LBS if you cannot stop anything over 1000 LBS to 1500 LBS trailer towing safely and handeling it correctly Without a brake controller and a empty 1900 LBS car hauler I had to make a fairly quick stop and that trailer was pushing me pretty hard...Very unsafe Oh Yeah The 2021 TUNDRA 4X4 gets 12 MPG if you baby it on the highway and then when you hook to a trailer and you'll be stopping to feed that 33 Gallon gas tank really soon 8-10 MPG with any or up to 1900 LBS trailer or less. I heard Toyota is going to be changing their truck motors options soon on the gas V-8 Oh yeah I just ordered a brake controller for my tacoma. Maybe in the nnear future I can slow down a trailer safely
I just bought a Taco and I’m interested in towing a camper. Could you please point to the parts you talk about in your videos? Specifically your hitch and sway controller. Thank you.
I towed a 5K load (3 series BMW on a steel tandem car trailer) the way from NJ to WA state in the dead of winter a couple years ago without any issue whatsoever...(including mountain passes) with my 2008 4.0 6spd MT TRD OFf Road Tacoma....Never used 5th gear and took it slow and easy though. those P3 brake controllers are a quick and easy install and definitely worth the $!… The MPG did suck though...Barely over 10! 😝
Im going to try to pull my 28ft North Trail camper with a 500lb tongue weight and 5300lb dry weight. Aint planning on pulling it far or often.
You have your Tacoma rigged super nice 👍 I had the Tacoma 2012 loaded. Today I drive a full size 2020 GMC Elevation 2.7 Turbo and love how it tows from Miami, Fla to the Smoky Mountains. RV Dry weight 3780 19ft long and total wgt with passengers & gear 4800; Fuel avg 10-11 mpg's but when i stay in Florida 12-13 mpg's. Fuel is major, i have paid round trip $740 in fuel and for an extra 2 mpg's gained that changed to $400 and yes fuel prices are great now but will they stay that way? As for power I can no longer see myself in a Truck with less torque then engine HP's. That torque is needed in many scenarios more so when climbing. On east coast, short mountains but steep grades. Been to Colorado and that's massive lol especially on the IKE with a 7% grade and 11k feet in elevation. But for the most part the grades and turns were pleasant. Also love how my new trucks transmission breaks on the down hills. My Tacoma just didn't do that with our last trailer 3300 dry weight. All we own in this house is Toyota with the exception of my "pickup crew cab" Appreciate the video. My change came since i tow often my boat and we RV camp every chance we get. So towing for me is important.
Good smart move
I tow a 22' Winnbago Micro Minnie. 4300lbs dry. it used to struggle in steep spots. put a Magnuson on it. no longer. ATS overload HD leafs, hammer hangers with cross brace, blue ox WD hitch, redarc brake controller, 32" Baja boss SL load, 2.5" billstein lift, sliders and a skid. towing with 35's seems like hell on this truck. I can understand your hesitation to tow over 3800lbs. to each his own.
2011 taco, 2wd, I pull a 20" camper, never evr go over 2.65 rpm's, Im in central florida , my gas mileage is about 14 mpg
How much the camper weigh?
I really wish they made a good 3000lb fifth wheel, which would be perfect for the Tacoma.
I've been window shopping for a fifthwheel, but I've also really wanting a Tacoma over a Tundra for my every day needs.
Escape 5.0, it's not that light, but has the aerodynamics.
I would be curious to see what the weight of that setup scales at. My RV has a dry weight of 9000lbs...actually weight is 12900lbs. When you start reading the fine print and figure out what is not included in the "base weight" you will be stunned. For example, one of the slides on my RV was not included in the base weight because it was an option. The RV industry is notorious for overloading equipment. It is a very nice looking setup.
Thank you for sharing this video! It is not easy to find detailed info on towing RV’s with light Toyota trucks. Im purchasing a travel trailer for my 08 4runner V8 4x4.
These built trucks often exceed GVWR on their own. If not, they exceed combined GVWR with an RV. If not, they exceed max payload and if not, they exceed max rear axle load rating.
Curious to know if your Taco is above GCWR, or rear axle load.
Diesel truck owners have the same issues with their rigs. It isn’t a matter of truck size, but the factory ratings themselves.
How do we manage these overages when towing large rigs with built 4x4’s?
Here’s my setup:
• ‘08 4runner V8 fully “overland built” on 33’s with cargo and passengers will weigh right around 6000lbs. Below GVWR and below 1475lbs. max payload
• Next summer: Keystone 220 Bullet RBI, at 26’ overall, 4700lbs dry, ~5700lbs loaded with empty fresh tank.
• Trailer weight is below the 7k max rating.
• Tongue weight is be below 700lbs rating.
• Gross combined weight of truck and rig will be just under the 12k max rating.
• However Tongue weight + payload (including bumpers, winch, people etc.) can easily exceed rated payload and more specifically rear axle load rating.
Something to consider, and perhaps weigh your entire rig and update your channel with the results? I’ll do the same when i pick up a trailer.
P.S. Nice Rig overall! Taco’s look the business on 35’s!
Drag is your issue towing. It really doesn’t matter if you use a Tundra, or a 150 or a 250. Drag is drag. With more power it’ll be easier to accelerate and easier to hold speed, but you’ll still be in that 10-12mpg.
Agreed, had a Chevy half ton and a 8+1/2 foot slide in hard side truck camper got 10 mpg cause of the wind drag.
Conversely towed a 6 x 12 U Haul cargo trailer behind my 4 liter SOHC Ford Ranger and I got 17 mpg @55 mph loaded.
Way lower and less frontal area and than a big camper.
The lift and tires look solid 🔥
I'm towing a 23cb jayco hybrid with a bone stock 09 trd taco. Through the mountains in northern canada. It handles fine. At 5200 but that's 80% of the tow rating. Tongue weight is 650 lbs by the way with the class iv hitch factory. Cross winds are about the only thing I really dislike and full disclosure I'm a commercial driver so I may be a little more experienced then some. They are a good truck but that fuel range is killer. I get about 250 km to a tank. Which isnt really much range when it's about 150 to a good camp ground.
Nice!! We bought a 17ft KZ camper last fall that tops out at 2,800 lbs, dry 2,200. I’m thinking we are not even half way there on towing capacity. Looking to taking it out this year.
Just happen to run across your comment. Please note that being less than half of your towing capacity is not the only important factor. The aerodynamic front, width and height of the TT are very important. Also the type of transmission you have is important. For example my Nissan Frontier has a towing capacity of 6400 lbs and I pull a Wolf Pup 16 FQ at 3200 lbs. My truck is a six speed automatic. The newer Frontiers have a 9 speed automatic that tows smoother than mine. I can also really feel the drag on hills and inclines.
That is a sweet looking truck! Looks like a beast.
That is one feature I love about my 18' Chevy Colorado. I can see my transmission temp and tire pressure on the dash with the press of a button on my steering wheel. Didn't get above 148deg F on my cross country tow of around 4,800 lbs in a cargo trailer. The 8spd transmission has a granny first gear and seems to adapt very well/instantly for towing. Got 15.1 mpg with my 4WD. Not making any changes to increase off road. My fuel economy and towing would likely plummet.
Well... maybe skids and a front locker would be nice. Lol
I keep hearing about not running in the higher gears when towing. My GMC had a towing button that locked out the overdrive gears. How do I do that in my Tacoma?
Great video and advice. Where did you get the cool boat/bike rack?
www.victory4x4.com/product/VMSBR.html
Can't believe you had something even bigger than this 25' Apex with the same 1/2 ton truck. My Nissan Frontier is probably the smallest of the 1/2 tons with a towing capacity of 6400 lbs. I pull a small 15' Wolf pup travel trailer that weighs around 3200 lbs. Even at 50% of its max rating I can really feel the drag especially on hills. The gas mileage suffers but good God not 7 - 10 mpg but around 15 to 16 mpg from the max of 23 without the load
Yeah I feel sorry for the next guy who buys his truck when he's done with it. That thing will be wore out!
Great video sir. I have a Nissan Frontier with a 6500 tow limit with 35s and a 5in lift. I'm doing a 5.6 Titan motor swap hopefully to ease the towing rpms.
How did that swap go?
@@Bagel_Biscuit sold it and got a bigger truck
What about beefed up suspension. Front and back coilovers and leafsprings with aal's ?
What is the Bluetooth app for getting the transmission temperature?
Any information on that will be appreciated and where to get the codes and set up.
We have an 07 Toyota pre runner v6 4.0 with tow package. Just got a trailer… dry weight 4995. Several people at the dealer confirmed we can pull 6500. And signed a form that we are ok. Your thoughts????
I have same truck/color, yours is really sweet, thx for helping me understand about towing!!!
Nice setup over your bed! Do you have a video of how you set that up?
First thing I do with any automatic truck is add a trans temp gauge. My 03 double cab was towing a 3500 lbs camper trailer & I ended up havine to add a external cool as the stock one built into the rad sucks.
So interesting question, how do you feel about being over the stock payload? Seems like with passengers + gear etc you’d be a decent amount over what is stated by Toyota. Obviously doable, but what is your thought on that?
I'm wondering as well.
He probably has a tundra now lol
That is one sick Taco man! Your truck is showcased on Victory 4x4?
I just bought a 2022 Tacoma TRD off road 4WD, but I will only use it for light trailering and mostly weekend fun, bikes, kayaks and the like. Yeah, I've always questioned the wisdom of Toyota giving such a high tow rating for this truck. I would only consider a diesel for towing anything over 4000 pounds.
5.29 gears with those 35" tires and considering you tow would probably get you even better mileage.
How much fuel economy do you get in the city with your truck having a 6 inch lift and 35 inch tires?
Chris, I assume you are asking about his gen 3 with 6" and 35s. I can comment on Gen 2 similar set up, BDS 35s KO2s on 2011 Gen 2 which ranges from 15-16mpg around town Winter/Summer, to 19-20mpg at 65mph Winter/Summer with a couple bikes and gear. Gen 2 auto holds 5th gear easily (stock gearing). I'm very pleased with mpg after 6" and 35s.
I tow a 1500lb boat with my 4.0 Tacoma and it does fine, but I wouldn't go much over 3K, unless it was a short haul. Bad gas mileage and a loud motor isn't pleasant.
Nice truck... would love to see a look at the rack setup with the bikes and yaks
Thanks! Video of the setup from last year. ua-cam.com/video/GsKCpSkf0xQ/v-deo.html
How close are you to your payload capacity though?
How much additional weight did you add to load capacity with all youre upgrades? beautiful truck!!
Re gear to 5.29’s if you are going to be pulling that much weight with that big of tires
I didn't believe no one mentioned the huge tires.... can't pull with 35" tires with a v6 3.5 .. he wants to kill his truck????
I've install 31.6 " on my 17 trd and fuel economy droped.. and power too! ... imagine pulling with 35" 🤦♂️
I love his truck..looks awsome .
Have you ever gone onto a CAT scale fully loaded to determine actual tow weight? I have an apex nano 191 single axel 19' trailer and a 15 4x4 taco club cab and we weighed 9110 lbs fully loaded no water in trailer tank. By my calculation subtracting 4100 lbs for truck alone I am at 5,000 lbs. my taco struggles on the Up hills quite a bit.
Have not done that yet. Makes sense though because dry weight of a travel trailer doesn't include the battery, propane tank(s), and other dealer installed accessories. Plus the curb weight of the Tacoma could be low as well depending on options.
Doug Price 11000 on
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How about lawn equipment trailer or towing a Small Kubota loader backhoe ? In the market for new truck but thinking of downsizing to smaller truck.
Hi, first love your setup. I have a 2013 Xspx 2x4 4.0L Tacoma short bed with tow package. I’m wanting to buy a travel camper and am getting all kinds of different weights to buy, can you guide me a little to what you think is a good camper that would work with my truck, etc make, single axel or double ..... appreciate any help.
I tow a mini Kubota backhoe , 4400lbs all in with trailer with a stock 4cyl 5 speed 2016 taco . never get into 5th and are not passing anyone but other wise, pulls with little problem . trailer has surge brakes.
Get back to us in 4-5 years to let us know how it's holding up.
Your right I tow 4600 loaded TT and its as much as I would go with a Tacoma.
I just got 17.1 Mpgs towing my friends broke down civic on a uhaul dolly uphill for 30 miles. I was able to go 60 mph+ up long grades (68 at one point ;) ) I have a '19 TRD Off-Road 6spd. manual! I got almost 20 mpgs towing our Coleman pop-up tent trailer over 90 miles to the California coast 60-70% up hill on the way there. I didn't feel either of the things being towed that much. But... I have a '19 5X10 tandem dump trailer that weighs 2060 lbs. dry and my truck hates taking off up hills. like totally stalls and has no bottom end. had to put it in 4 LO.. SMH
We tow a 2200 lb rec trailer (SunRay 149) with our 2015 TRD Offroad 4.0 auto stock 3.73 gears and 265/75/16 KO2s and get 14/15 mpg.
Hey Stud..
I'm more interested in the kayak and bike set up!! What do you have going on there?? I have an 05 taco with access cab and the same color..
Nice set up you have there though!!
Do we notice there's no follow-up video? Would it be helpful to see during and after tow footage? How was his experience? Did he tow in or through the mnts? Does he still tow this setup? The lack of follow-up leaves us wondering?
Cool looking taco though...
I switched to a 21 Pro and a Turtleback trailer. Blue taco is still here at the shop with nearly 100k on it and still running great.
On flat land, I don't object to towing in overdrive at highway speed.
Good choice in trailer. I have the 245bhs 4600 dry
With a auto- trans,what gear selection do tow in?
How do those knobby tires do on the freeway w/a trailer? Primarily w/regards to sudden stops.
What is the weight limit on the sticker inside the drivers door?
I have a question.. After you hook the trailer up to your Tacoma is there a button in the Tacoma truck that you press in order to tow or you can just put the truck in drive and go ahead and tow?
I have a 2018 1ton diesel for towing and my Toyota for playing. Best of both worlds 👍🏻
Always a good option if you can have two trucks.
I’m digging the kayak and bike mount on the truck. Does anyone know what brand or where he got it?
Did your truck have the towing package with it when you bought it? I think it includes a transmission and oil cooler as well as something items.
Sure did.
Victory 4x4 I did not purchase the tow package and have changed my mind on a small pop up camper. I’ve installed a tranny cooler but no oil cooler. Think I’m ok? 2013 v6 4.0 taco - I feel like the tranny is more to worry about than oil temps
Very good looking truck!