@RealTalkPowersports it would be a good marketing item to list out all of the functions the big screen. No one has covered them all yet. To me that's as important as everything else. I saw most steering wheel controls can be done on the touch screen. Maybe even good screen shots or a simple list. Something to think about.
I totally agree. Kudos to CFMoto. That company continues to impress me more and more and the industrial park that houses all aspects from engineering/design to assembly certainly looks world class. Better this route than for example what the Ford Motor Company is going through at present with the NHTSA. Resolve the problems before them becoming your loyal customer’s problems. That is definitely not the way to do business.
It’s more than likely because they know they are about to get hit by Trumps 60% tariffs more so than it not being ready since they are a Chinese company. We all need to support American companies and not companies that are based in our biggest adversary.
I think they're waiting to see what the tariffs are going to do to us before building a bunch of machines that dealers won't buy due to increased cost at the port.
Great video and info. Wish y'all were here in Utah. I have a 2022 800EX that has given me issues since day one and I know y'all would be able to figure it out and make it right as rain. My wife and I have had three of these ZForce 800EXs and not one issue with the first two. They are great machines. When we do upgrade it will be for a 950 Sport for sure.
Was highly interested in purchasing when they released… now my question is it going to have more updated features from what we have already seen the spoiler alert is over, seeing that other manufacturers are making significant improvements every year.
Well that is definitely different. Usually they just shove them out the door and deal with the recalls and repairs later. The welds on the Can-ams come to mind lately. Good stuff! I'm not switching to CF any time soon, but I do follow them to watch them evolve. 🤘😁
Good on them for not putting out a product they know isn’t quite right, but dang… I’ve already got a deposit on one at my local dealer. Must be a pretty significant issue to delay for a year. Bummer!
I test rode the U10 Pro Highland today and it felt a little buzzy through the floor, has some great features but for me the lack of seat bolstering and the fact that it's a 3 seater puts the driver hard to the left and your feet are behind the front wheel arch and the pedals are situated off to the right, now if you shimmy across the seat so your inline with the pedals your half off the drivers seat. This is probably not a problem if your putting around your property but as a rec machine it doesn't suit my needs, this was going to be a filler SxS until the Z10 arrived. The U10 has a 5 lug wheel as well so I,m assuming same as Z10.
Good show from the makers to not release the model until they have the highest quality and performance bugs fixed for their product and peace of mind that they are not going to get any machines called back for repair
It’s still on schedule to arrive at dealers end of December and January., I know for sure MSC has a big load coming to fulfill their order.. I’m expecting Christmas
hey, I just left my dealer and I believe you might have interpret it or read the letter incorrectly. I believe it states that they are going to be released but they will be 2026 models not 2025 models being released June or July 2025.
He said "2026 model year". He did not say they werent going to be released until 2026.That's not a misinterpretation. The model year always comes out late in the prior year
It’s crazy to me that it’s delayed a whole year. Must’ve been something pretty substantial. I suppose it’s best to push it out further than get a bad wrap on something they could have prevented.
Definitely a bummer. Was looking very forward to going to the local dealer next month when they was supposed to start arriving. Was looking on UA-cam to hopefully catch some reviews from some customers. The fact they are making sure its right before release just makes me want it that much more.
I think that it’s a smart move for Cfmoto to make sure that things are top notch before releasing the Z10 . So in the spring it looks like I’m buying a Cfmoto Zforce 950Sport . That’s fine with me.
Im going to guess they are gonna up the horseypower rating also. I remember the one video when the guy on design team said yeah it’s 140hp , for now. Anyway good move on getting all the new build bug’s ironed out
How about some news on Motorcycles. Why you don't show motorcycles and when in the hell are they going to release the 2025 models. The side by sides are nice and all but a majority of the country don't have access to places to ride those.
Smart move .... They're already swimming upstream, trying to make a solid name in the business, the last thing they want (or need) is to release something that's faulty. That would set them back a few years (mostly in reputation)
Soo Blake Z10 will be relased in 2026 not in 2025 because cfmoto still working on that to be more better than we see so they teling us Z10 is not ready yet for january 2025
Hey brother, I’m not sure what ya mean there by holding off on selling what we have on the floor? The letter is about the Z10.. all other models are great and ready to roll
This is the most amazing news with CFMOTO even showing there lack of perfection. And not starting a possible disaster with the new line. I have been one that says that about new products and waiting. More and More I really like this company, we may not have the most powerful machine in this product line but we have what looks like a standup Corporation behind it.
Thought long and hard after i got my deposit back and as much as my wife and i want a 4 seater asap to take our grandkids with us. Ive decided to wait until 2026 and still buy the CFMOTO instead of buying a 40 grand machine.
They are waiting to see what the tariffs will do. No ones gonna buy it at 30k, Plus sxs sales are in the toilet right now anyway. Huge amounts of 2024 models setting everywhere unsold from all makers. Smart to wait it out.
They built a factory in mexico, first sets of cars come out of china, the next model years will come out of mexico. The mexico plant is already building the u10 pro. So this delay may change those plans. The factory vid from china had several of the z10s coming off the line, and those where the ones that should have laned at dealers in feb. I think with the threat of tarrifs, they may speed up the mexico plant. Also, as citizens we hear tarrifs and think its everything, it could be specific things. There is things i dont agree with, like why is our tax dollars funding free shipping via uspostal from china to the usa? Well because people with money make the rules thats why.
Well that sux , was waiting till the first of the year to buy my next machine. Looks like another Yamaha. The z10 is far better than anything else they have made to date.
Not mentioning exactly what the problems were-- It'd be better for them to just say what it is rather than let my imagination go wild. Because to delay production almost a year leads my brain down some concerning paths. We're obviously not talking about adding a support beam somewhere, or that the display fails to be waterproof or some dumb thing. It sounds like the engine grenaded on half the demo cars. Or that the turbo melts the tupperware bodywork. Or that the cooling is insufficient no matter how big the radiator is if you drive in summer. See what I mean? It cant be something they could fix in a recall.
Valid points wonder truly what it is. I'm YXZ all day but was considering this for a 2nd machine. I'm one as well let them work out the kinks first production year. This really makes you wonder though. Probably be awhile before truth comes out but it will be a good story to follow. I will say though nothing but improvements year after year since they came out
Power sports in general have hit a brick wall for sales also That may be weighing in on this situation. Not saying they don’t have r&d problem just a contributing factor perhaps
@@jimfleury6349 You mean that MSC and RNG may have been getting ahead of themselves by doing massive expansions just as a depression hits? And now the car that was going to make them big bucks is pushed back a year? And a zillion upgraded used cars of all makes and models will be on fire-sale so people can make their mortgages? And tariffs may or may not come, who knows? Hmm. Who knew indeed.
@@RealTalkPowersportsmust be a big defect to set them back a whole year. I’m betting it’s either the engine or trans issues causing a whole year to redesign and test again. Or maybe frame issue is the only real 3 issues that could cause that much of a set back. IMO
I knew it and no one was listening to me about waiting for the 2nd or 3rd year glad they waiting instead of rereleasing it now Wait till they work the bugs out and get all the updates
I don't know where the current ones are built. But CF Moto supposedly has a manufacturing plant over in Mexico. It would be even nicer if they made a new plant here in the states someday.
Does anyone else think this may have less to do with quality and more to do with the incoming massive Trump tariffs on products coming from China? This gives them more time to adjust their MSRP without having egg on their face. I just told my local dealer that when they deliver in January, I’m racing in to buy one before the tariffs. Sounds like that is not happening. Oh well. Maybe CFMoto can be encouraged to build a factory here in the US. That’s the point of the tariffs.
Probably because of the computer software. Our Government doesn't want china Electronics all over the United States. Products are crushing expectations mechanically.
Have always built junk, and apparently still are. It’s not something minor, to delay it a whole year. But I do like how you spin it like they are doing something good. Keep drinking that koolaid!
It’s crazy to me that it’s delayed a whole year. Must’ve been something pretty substantial. I suppose it’s best to push it out further than get a bad wrap on something they could have prevented.
Cheap Chinese Equipment!!! I want to get the new z10 but having doubts on the cfmoto build quality. Everything looks thinner,cheaper,than ever before.Even new parts on Polaris, Honda's, etc look a lot cheaper made than the 80's and 90's. Sad they won't warranty their machines for you.
The Z10 is pretty awesome. I can’t wait for it to come out
Me either
@RealTalkPowersports it would be a good marketing item to list out all of the functions the big screen. No one has covered them all yet. To me that's as important as everything else. I saw most steering wheel controls can be done on the touch screen. Maybe even good screen shots or a simple list. Something to think about.
That’s what you call a great company. Good to know Safety and satisfaction is their top priority.
You got that right!
Good for them for not releasing something that isn't ready to be released.
Man it sure felt ready when I drove it haha
But yes you are right!
@ I’m sure you’ll be fine with them making it feel even better, lol.
Disappointing but very impressive on the part of CFMOTO!! Gives me more time to save up 🤣👍🏻
I totally agree. Kudos to CFMoto. That company continues to impress me more and more and the industrial park that houses all aspects from engineering/design to assembly certainly looks world class.
Better this route than for example what the Ford Motor Company is going through at present with the NHTSA. Resolve the problems before them becoming your loyal customer’s problems. That is definitely not the way to do business.
It’s more than likely because they know they are about to get hit by Trumps 60% tariffs more so than it not being ready since they are a Chinese company. We all need to support American companies and not companies that are based in our biggest adversary.
I think they're waiting to see what the tariffs are going to do to us before building a bunch of machines that dealers won't buy due to increased cost at the port.
My thoughts exactly. Every Chinese manufacturer is nervous
Well, hopefully that means there will be more innovation towards the aftermarket of the Z force specifically the 950 sport 4!!
I am so glad to hear that they want to put out a quality product! Even more respect for them! Hope they launch with a 72”!!!
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I’m a little bummed, but we can wait. Thanks for the update.
You and me both!
Says a great deal about the manufacture! Makes me really lean towards buying their products.
I agree man
Awesome as much as I want one even being first on the list from my dealer l’m happy to wait much applause to CF Moto to hold back production
That’s right man
What happened to sxs blog?? was a follower.
Great video and info. Wish y'all were here in Utah. I have a 2022 800EX that has given me issues since day one and I know y'all would be able to figure it out and make it right as rain. My wife and I have had three of these ZForce 800EXs and not one issue with the first two. They are great machines. When we do upgrade it will be for a 950 Sport for sure.
Yes very good they are wanting it to perform to it's best. I wonder if it effects u10 pro?
The U10 Pro is still on schedule.. expected last week of the year and first of January delivery
Damn it. Literally put my deposit on one yesterday 😂
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man that sucks, was literally waiting to purchase this machine.
It is a bummer.. but at least we know it’s coming and it will be right
When do they normally start putting out the next year model?
Was highly interested in purchasing when they released… now my question is it going to have more updated features from what we have already seen the spoiler alert is over, seeing that other manufacturers are making significant improvements every year.
Bummer! But I appreciate CFMoto doing the right thing and not rushing something that will fail!
That’s right
Do you know the date that the 675ss will be released
At the moment I don’t .. but I can’t wait to get one myself
Well that is definitely different. Usually they just shove them out the door and deal with the recalls and repairs later. The welds on the Can-ams come to mind lately. Good stuff! I'm not switching to CF any time soon, but I do follow them to watch them evolve. 🤘😁
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I think there are many of us who share this thought!
Will team MSC start making performance parts, suspension , clutches pretty much all accessories for the Segway Fugleman 2022 + as you do for CFMOTO ?
Good on them for not putting out a product they know isn’t quite right, but dang… I’ve already got a deposit on one at my local dealer. Must be a pretty significant issue to delay for a year. Bummer!
Yea they want to make sure it’s perfect for when it hits the showroom floor
Anymore info on the 800xl? Really wanting one.
Those should be coming
I'm going to wait for a couple years after release to get one. Besides my ho ex runs like a champ no need to trade.
I test rode the U10 Pro Highland today and it felt a little buzzy through the floor, has some great features but for me the lack of seat bolstering and the fact that it's a 3 seater puts the driver hard to the left and your feet are behind the front wheel arch and the pedals are situated off to the right, now if you shimmy across the seat so your inline with the pedals your half off the drivers seat. This is probably not a problem if your putting around your property but as a rec machine it doesn't suit my needs, this was going to be a filler SxS until the Z10 arrived. The U10 has a 5 lug wheel as well so I,m assuming same as Z10.
Cfmoto has only gained respect from me with this news, good on them.
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Good show from the makers to not release the model until they have the highest quality and performance bugs fixed for their product and peace of mind that they are not going to get any machines called back for repair
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Will the U 10 pro still be on schedule
Yes sir 🙌
I’m trying to convince my wife in a 950ho but she’s worried about it being too small or compact how’s the leg room inside one?
Well I am 6’1 and I fit just fine.
If y’all can go see one in person, I believe you will like it
Do you have on idea on the release date of the U10?
It’s still on schedule to arrive at dealers end of December and January.,
I know for sure MSC has a big load coming to fulfill their order.. I’m expecting Christmas
@RealTalkPowersports awesome!!! I know I'm excited to see them in person and hopefully add one to my fleet of CF Motos lol
🤔What about the Uforce U10 Pro??? Does anyone have a release date???
Expected to arrive at MSC at the very end of December and first of January
@@RealTalkPowersports Thank You Sir!!!
Man I hate to hear this was really looking forward to one
Me too
U10 still on schedule to be released?
Yes sir
Please make and overview and test drive video of the 2025 CFORCE 400 and the 2025 CFORCE 500 and please show us all of the color options for 2025!
Will do brother
@@RealTalkPowersportsOkay Awesome!
@@RealTalkPowersportsThank You!
What's the HP on the z10?
hey, I just left my dealer and I believe you might have interpret it or read the letter incorrectly. I believe it states that they are going to be released but they will be 2026 models not 2025 models being released June or July 2025.
"Falling short" during testing isn't just a model year misinterpretation
He said "2026 model year". He did not say they werent going to be released until 2026.That's not a misinterpretation. The model year always comes out late in the prior year
It’s crazy to me that it’s delayed a whole year. Must’ve been something pretty substantial. I suppose it’s best to push it out further than get a bad wrap on something they could have prevented.
Definitely a bummer. Was looking very forward to going to the local dealer next month when they was supposed to start arriving. Was looking on UA-cam to hopefully catch some reviews from some customers. The fact they are making sure its right before release just makes me want it that much more.
Z10, uforce 1000xl, or zforce 950 sport4 for over land camping?
Oofff that ls a tough one to answer.
But with what’s available.. I’d say the 950 sport 4
Its already in dealers in Canada !?
No not yet
Any insight on the U10?
It’s still on schedule for last week of December and early January
I think that it’s
a smart move for Cfmoto to make sure that things are top notch before releasing the Z10 . So in the spring it looks like I’m buying a Cfmoto Zforce 950Sport . That’s fine with me.
Any word on the CForce 1000 single or the Cforce MV model?
No word on that for the US yet brother
@RealTalkPowersports That is the ATV I want. I hope the HVAC comes first the U10 pro real soon
Any black Friday deals coming?
I’ll post the sale first of next week brother
@RealTalkPowersports perfect! Thank you Sir!!
Im going to guess they are gonna up the horseypower rating also. I remember the one video when the guy on design team said yeah it’s 140hp , for now. Anyway good move on getting all the new build bug’s ironed out
Wow, BRP would have just sent it anyway. Good on cfmoto.
I think so too
Awesome!!!!
Gad dammitt didn't wanna buy another Rzr I really wanted to try the z10
How about some news on Motorcycles. Why you don't show motorcycles and when in the hell are they going to release the 2025 models. The side by sides are nice and all but a majority of the country don't have access to places to ride those.
Smart move .... They're already swimming upstream, trying to make a solid name in the business, the last thing they want (or need) is to release something that's faulty. That would set them back a few years (mostly in reputation)
I have a deposit on a z10…will the prices be increasing for 2026?? I would assume they will be
Soo Blake Z10 will be relased in 2026 not in 2025 because cfmoto still working on that to be more better than we see so they teling us Z10 is not ready yet for january 2025
It seems that they now plan to release it when they release the 2026 lineup
@RealTalkPowersports Soo they will be relased the same Z10 with new models of 2026 okay now I understand
My guess is the next release will be higher priced. They were very low for all those features.
I wonder if it will still be 20grand.
It should be
Goes to show can am and polaris make it look easy bringing a turbo sxs with 162hp or 170hp and dynamix shocks since 2018 or smart shox.
I'm guessing they are actually looking at options to build in the US due to impending tariffs. This excuse sounds good though
Blake with the 2025 model you have on the floor, are you folks going to hold off selling them?
Hey brother, I’m not sure what ya mean there by holding off on selling what we have on the floor?
The letter is about the Z10..
all other models are great and ready to roll
I’m talking about the Z10 that you have on the floor in your video
I’m sorry dude I thought you had already got your Z10 but obviously I was mistaken
Yep I’ve only got to ride pre production models
This is the most amazing news with CFMOTO even showing there lack of perfection. And not starting a possible disaster with the new line. I have been one that says that about new products and waiting. More and More I really like this company, we may not have the most powerful machine in this product line but we have what looks like a standup Corporation behind it.
I agree completely
Thought long and hard after i got my deposit back and as much as my wife and i want a 4 seater asap to take our grandkids with us. Ive decided to wait until 2026 and still buy the CFMOTO instead of buying a 40 grand machine.
Thats cool. Gives them more time to work out the bugs and make it better. And it gives me more time to save up a downpayment on that orange Z10-4. 😂
They are waiting to see what the tariffs will do. No ones gonna buy it at 30k, Plus sxs sales are in the toilet right now anyway. Huge amounts of 2024 models setting everywhere unsold from all makers. Smart to wait it out.
They built a factory in mexico, first sets of cars come out of china, the next model years will come out of mexico. The mexico plant is already building the u10 pro. So this delay may change those plans. The factory vid from china had several of the z10s coming off the line, and those where the ones that should have laned at dealers in feb. I think with the threat of tarrifs, they may speed up the mexico plant. Also, as citizens we hear tarrifs and think its everything, it could be specific things. There is things i dont agree with, like why is our tax dollars funding free shipping via uspostal from china to the usa? Well because people with money make the rules thats why.
My supercharged 950 Trail is fantastic! It just needs forged pistons. 🤔 😂
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Well I guess I’ll come get a cforce 1000 now 😂
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It's a little disappointing but it's better to do that than to have a bunch of people sharing something negative on line to feed the haters
That’s right
Polaris would have released it and had buyers do the r and d then redesign it lol
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Well that sux , was waiting till the first of the year to buy my next machine. Looks like another Yamaha. The z10 is far better than anything else they have made to date.
It’s going to be worth the wait I believe
But it is hard to go several months without riding
Not mentioning exactly what the problems were-- It'd be better for them to just say what it is rather than let my imagination go wild. Because to delay production almost a year leads my brain down some concerning paths. We're obviously not talking about adding a support beam somewhere, or that the display fails to be waterproof or some dumb thing. It sounds like the engine grenaded on half the demo cars. Or that the turbo melts the tupperware bodywork. Or that the cooling is insufficient no matter how big the radiator is if you drive in summer. See what I mean? It cant be something they could fix in a recall.
Valid points wonder truly what it is. I'm YXZ all day but was considering this for a 2nd machine. I'm one as well let them work out the kinks first production year. This really makes you wonder though. Probably be awhile before truth comes out but it will be a good story to follow. I will say though nothing but improvements year after year since they came out
Power sports in general have hit a brick wall for sales also
That may be weighing in on this situation. Not saying they don’t have r&d problem just a contributing factor perhaps
@@jimfleury6349 You mean that MSC and RNG may have been getting ahead of themselves by doing massive expansions just as a depression hits? And now the car that was going to make them big bucks is pushed back a year? And a zillion upgraded used cars of all makes and models will be on fire-sale so people can make their mortgages? And tariffs may or may not come, who knows? Hmm. Who knew indeed.
According to the comments on here nobody aware or simply avoiding reality
Damn, guess I’ll be getting a 950 sport then
That’s a great unit brother
Sounds like a Speed UTV situation. JK
Naw not at all..
Did they say the problem
They did not
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Man I’m bummed!
I would think they would of done this and had them being tested on real trails before they committed and let dealers etc test drive them😂😂😂.
I suppose you wouldn't want to release right before WW3 starts, that would be bad timing...
bump the hp to 180
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Too bad the z10 isn’t ready. They are gonna miss out on a lot of money .
They know that.. and that’s why it’s so impressive that they decided to lose the money and make it perfect
@@RealTalkPowersportsmust be a big defect to set them back a whole year. I’m betting it’s either the engine or trans issues causing a whole year to redesign and test again. Or maybe frame issue is the only real 3 issues that could cause that much of a set back. IMO
I knew it and no one was listening to me about waiting for the 2nd or 3rd year glad they waiting instead of rereleasing it now
Wait till they work the bugs out and get all the updates
It will definitely be right when it hits the showroom floor and I can’t wait
Funny because they have no problem releasing ATVs & SXS that have the worst gear shifting in the industry !
Will these cf motos be getting the 60-100% tariffs applied to their prices? Anyone know where these cfmotos are built?
I don't know where the current ones are built. But CF Moto supposedly has a manufacturing plant over in Mexico. It would be even nicer if they made a new plant here in the states someday.
It will never be perfect. Factory testing is not real world use, especially with different user/drivers.
Delayed 2026
Disappointing. Not good to tease the market. It reveals something about the mindset.
That’s ok it will just cost twice as much with 60-100% tariffs on it thanks to dump so much for affordable glad I bought my 2024 CFMOTO
Boohoo😂😂😂😂
CF moto better be adding an extra 100 hp to their 140 hp stock. If they do that they'd take the RZR and Maverick market easily.
This is a good thing but i hope trump tariffs dont mess up the price❤
China waiting to see if those tariffs hit. To bad we couldn't get the Z10 before than for cheap. 😢
Bummer 👎🏼
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Don’t buy CF Moto they won’t stand behind them my 950 Z the shocks fell apart, and they won’t do anything to help me with them
Details matter. I’ve had no issues with my unit.
@@georgejohnson2046 you better hope you don’t have any troubles
Major engine failures likely.. a year delay is substantial
Does anyone else think this may have less to do with quality and more to do with the incoming massive Trump tariffs on products coming from China? This gives them more time to adjust their MSRP without having egg on their face. I just told my local dealer that when they deliver in January, I’m racing in to buy one before the tariffs. Sounds like that is not happening. Oh well. Maybe CFMoto can be encouraged to build a factory here in the US. That’s the point of the tariffs.
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if you ride cfmoto your a sell out
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@RealTalkPowersports 🤪🤣
@RealTalkPowersports real talk they need to build em here like honda yamaha and suzuki did or me and my family aint getting them
Tariffs are going to obliterate CFMoto.
It’s called Tariffs!!! Doing what every company is going to start doing!
OK Kumala
Probably because of the computer software. Our Government doesn't want china Electronics all over the United States.
Products are crushing expectations mechanically.
Have always built junk, and apparently still are. It’s not something minor, to delay it a whole year. But I do like how you spin it like they are doing something good. Keep drinking that koolaid!
Buy a Can Am!
Save on the recalls.
Yes 👍 it will be right once it’s in the public’s hands
It’s crazy to me that it’s delayed a whole year. Must’ve been something pretty substantial. I suppose it’s best to push it out further than get a bad wrap on something they could have prevented.
Don’t buy CF Moto they won’t stand behind them my 950 Z the shocks fell apart, and they won’t do anything to help me with them
Cheap Chinese Equipment!!! I want to get the new z10 but having doubts on the cfmoto build quality. Everything looks thinner,cheaper,than ever before.Even new parts on Polaris, Honda's, etc look a lot cheaper made than the 80's and 90's. Sad they won't warranty their machines for you.
@@jasons5607 it had a safety recall on it. They done it, and after the safety recall, the shot came apart. CF Moto won’t stand behind it.