ICON 3.0 Suspension & 37 Inch Tires - BIG Changes For The Tundra
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2022
- In this video I removed my stock suspension and tires & installed 3.0 ICON remote reservoir coilovers with internal bump stops, billet aluminum upper control arm with Delta Joint, and new 37" BFG KM3's. I completed a body mount chop and a pinch weld modification. I unexpectedly had to remove and repair the axel and CV boot along the way. The new look and ride is unbelievable. Thanks for watching and let me know if you have any questions.
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Baller set up! Great video and awesome Tundra build
Thanks man, appreciate it!!
I have OME dakar leaf springs with firestone airbags along with daystar cradles to prevent sag. Look into the daystar cradles if you're deciding to keep your airbags. It'll prevent the bags from ripping when you're flexed out since its not attached. Love the setup!
I’ve heard of those cradles…sounds like they are working good for ya….it’s deff an option I’m considering. I’m always worried about my bags ripping. Thanks!
I have an 08 Tundra, firestone air bags in the rear, replaced the leaf springs with new leaf springs from KC Spring that gave me an extra 600lbs (estimate from the spring folks) of carrying power. I believe the spring pack has an extra leaf in it. The springs gave me an extra 3/4" of height in addition to stock and I put the adjustable Bilstein shocks up front ... I have a TRD sway bar in the rear. I still have the factory rake which I like. The upside, very limited body roll to the point where the nanny controls complain once and a while taking an exit too fast (must have a g-force meter) ..down side, it's a little stiff like a 3/4 ton truck but hauling is a breeze and I like the extra lift. I have 220k miles on the truck, it's in great shape, thought of converting it into an overland truck for fun with 35's or 37's.
Great video as always! Your set up looks awesome. 🔥🤘
Thanks 😜
Love the video. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for checking it out!
I’m just impressed you had a spacer kit on there with that bumper. Have a westcott kit on my blue and yellows. Had icons before on a 4runner and May go that route again.
Liking my Icons a lot so far, kinda wish they had a stiffer spring option so I didn’t have to crank these down as far to get the preload but 🤷♂️
Wow …. I can have my truck at your place say… next weekend? Really beautiful work, well done.
Hahaha thanks. I wish I had the time and space to take on some customers!
@@prospectoverland very nice work!
Great video, subbed!
Thanks for the sub!
Such an awesome build you have, such a badass tundra. Running the same icon kit on my truck. I got the 3.0s upfront with the billet ucas. Out back im running thr rxt leaf pack set to option 1 and the rxt 2.5 resi shocks. They aren't the baller omega shocks since mine only offer compression adjustment. I'm also running firestone air bags with daystar cradles and trd sway bar. I have a bed cap with about 100 pounds of gear I keep in my truck. I'm also running 35s with some second gen tundra rock warrior wheels. Definitely a whole lot lighter than your rig but the icon shocks are awesome. Biggest thing I've noticed for me at least is the icons ride rougher than stock around town but they cruise amazing at highway speeds and big hits. Makes sense with the digressive valving icon uses.
Thank you! And thanks for the info about what you are running in the back. I’ve heard that digressive valve term but need to research what its about. I’m not to savvy with shock stuff like rebound/compression/valving etc. my big thing with the fronts were that the 3.0 came with internal bumps. And I made the jump to the omegas for the rear hoping the extra adjustment would help me manage the weight of my truck better the ones that aren’t as adjustable. But idk 🤷♂️ ha. We will see.
@@prospectoverland Basically the way digressive valving works is that the shocks are stiffer at lower speeds and gets smoother as piston speed builds up. Obviously the shock can only take so much speed then it reaches its limit. Progressive shocks like king/ fox etc are softer at slower speeds and will get stiffer as speed increases. There's soo much that goes into it all. You should be able to fine tune the rear setup as you out more miles on it and do some off-roading. Around town my rears are set to 4. I find that at the softer settings the rear end felt too loose. you might want to start with everything cranked to setting 5 all around. Im going on now almost 2 years with my icons. I'm thinking probably next year ill get them rebuilt as ive put close to 25k on the suspension already with towing and general driving.
I had the icon rxt stage 1 then had it reconfigured for stage 2 felt nice. But fully loaded with gear truck squated . I had a cbi bedrack and cvt mt.hood dual channel so about 300lb i do have a high clearance rear bumper with tire swing out 37in tire . Rxt stage 2 felt still pretty soft Imo so i upgraded to deaver u748 + sdhq shackles overall feels good . Haven't done any technical trails with the new deavers yet .
Awesome thanks for the feed back. You squatting with the new deavers and sdhq shackles still or did that part get resolved?
What’s the height of your lift? Sway bar rub on the inside tire on full lock? Awesome set up. Clean job. Nothing like yourself knowing that there’s
quality time and work done to it. Keep it coming!
It’s hard to say the exact amount of lift. It doesn’t have a actual lift kit. The icon shocks have the coils cranked down to the max amount which I think is about 2-3” of lift. But my truck is very heavy so 2” of lift on mine might be 3 or 4” on someone else’s rig.
Sway bar had to come off because it was hitting the bottom of the shock where it mounts to the A arms.
Still rides great without the sway bar. But tires hitting the sway bar was not the issue. +25 offset rims are the ticket for not rubbing a lot.
Sick set up! What wheel are those? I noticed you had regular acorn lug nuts and not ET lugs, many turns do you get ?
Thanks man! The tires are 37/18/12.5 BFG KM3. Rims are 18” method NV.
I just put new OEM lug nut studs on the whole truck a couple days ago and bought the black lug nuts that method sells for the standard Toyota bolt pattern/thread.
What do you mean how many turns do I get? Tightening the lug nuts??
Now that youve run this setuo for a bit , are you rubbing at all? Love the truck!
I get a slight touch on the very top of the tire on the fender liner. But only enough to just put a small discoloration haze on the plastic, zero damage.
Beautiful truck man! Can’t believe you’ve been running stock shocks! Are you regeared? I have about 600 lbs constant load. I’m running ome Dakar Leafs with the AAL with Toytec shackles. If I could do it again I would have went with deaver’s u748 pack. You should definitely get the day star cradles if you wanna keep your bags. You should look into a custom pack from Deaver or Alcan, they can make you leaf packs specifically designed for your weight. Excited to see some wheeling vids of this beast! Cheers!
Thanks a lot! I’ve had this suspension on order foreverrrrr so those stock shocks have been horrible this whole time but didn’t really have a choice…just had to wait.
Thanks for the leaf pack info. I would like to get rid of the bags completely…. so a custom leaf pack would be awesome. This truck is fully loaded at all times so I’m not worried about it riding horrible “empty” because of a stiff spring. Do I need to do after market shackles with the deavers or alcan’s?
@@prospectoverland Gotcha! You may be able to use stock shackles but I’d upgrade to some that use poly bushings for best performance. You could look into Coachbuilder, he offers 3 different lift heights. Your new leaf springs will probably only be 2-2.5” of lift. So consider how much rake you want, if any. The real determining factor is how much lift those Icon 3.0s support. Also I’m curious about the big brake kit, looks like most require a 20” wheel :/ but sdhq makes one that you can use an 18” wheel? Are you running 18s currently?
@@oversizedoverlanding2365 ah okay that all makes sense. What do you think about me getting the leaf pack first, see what the ride height is then get the appropriate/required lift shackle after. I feel like I’d be just taking a guess and which length shackle if I try and buy it before the leaf pack is installed.
The brake kit….yes I have 18” and I’m going with power brake. Which are the ones that SDHQ sells. I’m just not getting from them…no particular reason. Just a different vendor. I can’t wait to get them on!
That would probably be just fine, as long as the new leaf pack is compatible with stock shackles. Stock shackles use the factory bushings though which have to pressed out/in. Definitely check and see though how much lift the icon 3.0s are rated for though. It wouldn’t be the end of the world if you exceed that, but I think you’d lose a little shock travel.
That would probably be just fine, as long as the new leaf pack is compatible with stock shackles. Stock shackles use the factory bushings though which have to pressed out/in. Definitely check and see though how much lift the icon 3.0s are rated for though. It wouldn’t be the end of the world if you exceed that, but I think you’d lose a little shock travel.
Hey man, do you think 37s could put on with the stock bumper being there? Great looking Tundra!
Thanks!!
Only if you are willing to trim the edge of the bumper closest to the wheel and mess with the area of plastic fender Liner.
What bumper is that in the front? Looks great.
Thanks! It’s from C4. And then I picked the higher bull bar.
Where did you get your alignment done? I got mine done at the ORW in Kearny Mesa and the guy bitched about what a difficult time he had and I have the same suspension set up that you have up front. Icon 3.0 coil overs on my 2016 Tundra with Icot billet UCAs. I wouldn’t mind a decent shop to get this done at in San Diego.
Accurate Alignment in Oceanside. They did so awesome. They did say it was a little tricky and I think was $150. But they weren’t complaining at all. They really liked the upper billet arm because it was super adjustable. I am not a fan of ORW whatso ever. Steer clear of them. They just install bolt on parts. No custom or specific knowledge about special builds.
Great Build!!! What are those wheels your rocking?
Thanks! Method 18” NV’s
@@prospectoverland Beautiful Vehicle. Thanks for the prompt response. I'm assuming those are the Matt Black?
13:17 No one ever thinks to just fold in the factory steel on the body mount. Cut a pie wedge, Hammer it in, then weld it back together.
Yeah that would work I suppose. Would save buying the pre bend plates. But the plates are so easy to fit right in.
Hey man I’m running almost the same setup minus the gfc on the back.. I can’t seem to get my truck level. It sags so much to the driver side. I’m already maxed out with shim spacers on the bumpstop as directed by icon. Did you have any issue? I’m thinking about just ditching the 600lb springs and sacrificing the travel to get a little more ground clearance.
Also, for the rear when I have heavy loads I have sumo springs and even at high speeds over nasty ruts they do well with working with the suspension.
First off are you running 2.5 front coil overs or the 3.0?
I have the drivers side lean also when my gas tank is filled up. Not too noticeable when I’m running on empty. Seems like this is a pretty common issue with off-road stuff. Jeeps have a known lean as well.
I do have the 3.0’s
@@chestonholguin3515 from my understanding we don’t have any other springs to go to. The 3.0 diameter that icon uses is one off and the only spring they have for it is the one that comes on it which I believe is actually 650. The 2.5” shock guys do have other options up to 700lbs from my understanding. Sooooo, I would adjust your lean by cranking the springs down further on one side vs the other. I have my driver at 1.5” thread and passenger at 1.25” thread.
I gotta ask, as I’m looking at the GFC as well. Is the tundra your daily, and if so, what’s it like always having the GFC on. What else was added to assist with the weight and what was the impact on mpg. I have a 2019 TRD PRO tundra and just looking at options, thanks!
Its not my daily, it gets horrible mileage but not solely because of the GFC. I don't know exactly the difference the GFC made because my truck has so much other stuff done to it and is really heavy. I get 10mpg typically. The GFC is light weight, but with all my added gear and bumpers and stuff I have air bags currently but planning to get a different leaf pack built.
@@prospectoverland that’s not too bad. Thank you for taking the time to answer my question!
Beautiful rig… did you regear?
Thank you. They have been on order…hopefully by the end of the month 🤞
@@prospectoverland what size did you order?
I have the similar setup with ICON tubular UCA's, with leaf spring kit and fully adjustable dampening rears as well (I think essentially stage 9?). The shop that installed mine did not cut the bump stop, nor did they move the boot on the steering rods. I wonder how critical this is and if I should be worried? Also, I didn't hear you mention any diff drop kit or bump stop spacers (maybe I just didn't hear). I had Coachbuilder bump stops installed (with his outer tie rod) and the Icon diff drop kit. Your BMC is amazing. Wish I was close I'd pay you to do mine. 😁
Also any issues with clearance on the way you did the pinch weld mod? How do you like the KM3's? I was thinking of Toyo AT3's but I think overall diameter is larger than your KM3's.
Hey Jake, I guess ill never know if trimming the edge of the bump was totally necessary. I've heard it specifically is needed for the 3.0 system due to the bigger coil size. The 2.5 shock has room to clear. Reference moving the boot, again I guess I won't totally know but the reasoning was that by sliding the small end of the boot closer to the center of the truck it allowed some extra slack in the boot to accommodate extra articulation. I've heard that the boot could tear from being stretched to the max when the suspension drops out. The reasoning makes sense in my head so I just did it.
My truck already had a diff drop from a previous lift which I guess I failed to mention. And I did install Icons thick washer/bump stop spacer to limit the up travel and prevent any coil binding. I think I did this after the video once I spoke with them some more.
No clearance issues on the front after my mod's seen in the video. Thanks, I am pretty happy with the BMC. Turned out pretty clean once all painted up. Check my most recent video, did some flexing tests. The rear tires rub some plastic on full tuck. Not a big deal. And yes the KM3's are amazing but I think are 36.5" when truly measured.
I think i covered all the questions. let me know if i missed something.
@@prospectoverland That covered it! Thanks for that detailed and quick response. I’m waiting for wheels/tires (37’s) as I heard that gears are required with 37’s. I’m going to save up for Nitro 5.29’s, and…..if I’m doing gears, then I’m doing Eaton E-lockers at same time. So I need to save up about $10k. 😢 This is not a cheap hobby!
@@jakemaddox76 haha everything seems to be a minimum of $1k. I just did the same gear and locker set up. Couldn’t be happier with it. Just had my 1000 mile break in oil change done a couple weeks back. Used the locker twice already since breakin has been done.
@@prospectoverland oh awesome!! Did you make a video covering the install?
@@prospectoverlando was doing my brakes over the weekend and noted that both tie rod boots popped off the steering rack. At full lock the open space is ridiculous. Why has nobody else mentioned this? They’ve probably been off a year. I contacted Icon and one of their techs Justin said that the Tundra they installed it on when designing their suspension kit did not have tie rod boots. Can’t be normal right? Seems a longer boot would be best solution (in addition to chocking up boot as you did). Plus, my boots came with zip ties instead of pipe/band clamps. Cheeseball.
How much lift over stock did you add?
I’m not sure really. So many things are changed about it. I have 1.25” of pre load on the springs but that’s doesn’t say much because my trucks weighs a lot so that much pre load on my truck doesn’t equal someone else’s. If I ever come across a stock tundra I should do a quick measure.
Do you have any rubbing?
A tad on the rear tires. Front is good. Keep an eye out for my next video soon, I just ran the suspension through its paces with a bit of a flex test.
What its the wheels offset ?
+25.
No sway bars ?
Truck didn’t come with a rear and the front one didn’t fit very well after the new suspension. Was going to adjust some stuff to make it fit back on, but once I drove it without it, didn’t notice much of a difference. So now it’s taking up shelf space in the garage.
Yeah I have a 4.5inch bds coil over kit never drove with the front one off. Considering removing it
Ironman 400-800 lb leaf pack in the rear
Cool thanks for feed back
Hi there,
I’m wondering if you’re Using the same stock gear ratio in your diffs ir have you re-geared them to perhaps 4.88 or 5.29’s?
Also, did you notice and vibration from your driveshafts due to your lift or not?
Thanks in advance for your feedback..
Hi, I did eventually go to 5.29. In this video I had not switched yet but a couple months later I did once the parts finally arrived. I also put in an Eaton E locker.
My lift is pretty mild. Only about 2 inch. So no vibration from pinion angle.
@@prospectoverland Thanks for the info and keep these awesome videos coming..🫡👍🏼🥃
Bro how’s the gas mileage on the truck now 😨!
It’s a Tundra, terrible from day one stock now it’s just extra terrible haha. 11.0
@@prospectoverland as long as you dig the truck dude that’s what matters 👌
I had icon suspension, HAD. Went to Fox after Icon failed to honor a warranty claim for a set of shocks that broke at the strut. I steer anyone away from Icon. Terrible CS.
Sorry to hear that. So far they have worked great for me. I had a issue with the first set of rear omegas and I had a new pair the next week.