i love your explanation of the upsides of these. 'direct bolt on, dont have to cut anything up' is exactly what i want. now to figure out what would be the best on road, and last as long as possible.
Got a 2nd gen Tundra and was thinking about going with Icon. This convinced me. Also, this was a great video! You have a gift for explaining things. Very informative and fun to watch!
This is a kit I think 🤔 💭 all us tundra owners want, 😭 but not all of us have deep enough pockets for this type package… But I do love ❤️ my kings package I put together. About 2.5inches of lift up front and 1inch in the rear. Truck sits nice and I only run 33’s…..
@@enkrypt3d honestly id rather them put in more electric power. they already have reliability issues with the turbos, so more of that would just suck. plus more electric means better mpg and less engine load.
First time coming across your channel some how. As a lover of cars and trucks I really liked this video and will check out more of your content. Subscribed!
I really like this kit. I have a 21 Tundra. It’s my daily but I want something I can have some fun with. Do I need a leaf pack or can I run without it? I won’t be doing much towing.
Good video, however the Tundra does have camber and caster adjustments….there is not enough adjustment when you raise the truck. The extra camber and caster the upper control arms provide are needed. SPC makes some good control arms as well.
Great video! What do you guys think of the Bilstien 8112 and 8100 for the Tacoma? They are essentially bypass shocks all the way around without the need for the secondary shock up front.
We haven't tried them but the design and concept are sound. Bilstein doesn't make junk. However, like the ICON, the front coilover is not a bypass type. The springs get in the way. To run a bypass in the front you would need to run a secondary shock.
@@bersonlee icon doesnt offer 3 inch secondary or rear shocks. They only offer a 3 inch front shock for the tundra. So his rig has 3 inch front with a 2.5 inch secondary omega shock. the rear has the same 2.5 inch omega shock with the hydralic bumps and leaf pack. all said an done his whole kit is 11k just in parts. Again a baddass kit but not necassary for driving on road. I went with the 3.0 stage 1 kit and it will ride identical. Even folks over at aicon said that the secondary shock is only beneficial for hard core fast desert offroading. Regular highway driving makes zero difference.
I used airlift rear air bags and had to take off the icon bump stops using same mounting holes. How do you fit your airbags ? Mine do have the internal bump stops in air bags to prevent savage to airbags if air is lost
Do you recommend boxing the frame on the Tundra? I know they have a LOT of flex from the factory and Toyota claims this is a good thing, but I've seen plenty of cases where the bed collides with the cab because the frame flexes a lot. Also, the tundra is known for having "bed bounce" on concrete highways and I'm wondering if boxing the frame would help with that.
You need to be careful when reinforcing the frame, if you don't know what you are doing you can transfer the forces somewhere else. If you cab is hitting the bed, there are a lot of other parts of the chassis that should be beefed up first. We have driven our truck pretty hard and fast off road and that haven't happened yet.
Great segment. Mike, can you explain why Toyota runs so little caster on this truck? Are they trying to make sure with OEM suspension it's not super lazy on initial turn-in at slow speeds? Not a truck guy but curious. TIA
Did you have to install longer brake lines to the rear axel due to the additional droop provided by the rear leaf springs? I was thinking of buying this leaf pack for the additional weight capacity, my truck is constantly loaded with 1000lbs in the bed at all times. Thanks for the informative video! Cheers!
1st said no fabrication but then said there would need to be a little welding? If I ever replace my shocks I want total bolt on ability.....no welding and no cutting.
Then you are probably not in the market for bypass shocks. As an alternative you can get a lower control arm with the bypass mount welded in like we did in the next video.
i love your explanation of the upsides of these. 'direct bolt on, dont have to cut anything up' is exactly what i want. now to figure out what would be the best on road, and last as long as possible.
Got a 2nd gen Tundra and was thinking about going with Icon. This convinced me. Also, this was a great video! You have a gift for explaining things. Very informative and fun to watch!
This is the absolute best explanation of the features I have seen to date. Amazing. Thank you for the great video and detailed information!!!
This is a kit I think 🤔 💭 all us tundra owners want, 😭 but not all of us have deep enough pockets for this type package… But I do love ❤️ my kings package I put together. About 2.5inches of lift up front and 1inch in the rear. Truck sits nice and I only run 33’s…..
Thank you for taking the time to explain this quality suspension system...
I have icon stage 10 - also added sumo springs on the back
Love my Stage 10’s. Worth every penny!
This was a great video! I loved my ICON's on my 2018 4runner and I'm looking to put the 3.0 ICONs on my 23 Sequoia TRD Sport!
Good choice!
@@motoiq do you think we'll ever see bigger turbo's for this 3.5L V6 on the Tundra / Sequoia?
@@enkrypt3d honestly id rather them put in more electric power. they already have reliability issues with the turbos, so more of that would just suck. plus more electric means better mpg and less engine load.
First time coming across your channel some how. As a lover of cars and trucks I really liked this video and will check out more of your content. Subscribed!
Whooaaa didn’t know motoiq did tricks too. Please do a Tacoma build!!
I really like this kit. I have a 21 Tundra. It’s my daily but I want something I can have some fun with. Do I need a leaf pack or can I run without it? I won’t be doing much towing.
Great video by the way
leaf's should be used to keep the balance right. They have more travel but they start out softer than stock.
I just need to drop my truck off so this guy can do everything. He’s a like a Mr. Myagi of suspensions.
Do you have a shop by any chance ? And do you do work for the public?
Nvm Motoiq.com lol
Good video, however the Tundra does have camber and caster adjustments….there is not enough adjustment when you raise the truck. The extra camber and caster the upper control arms provide are needed. SPC makes some good control arms as well.
It does but not even close enough to do much useful even at stock ride height. We could not get much caster at all even stock.
I thought that the Daystar cup goes on the bottom of the air bag isn’t it?
It could but there was no room on this truck, it really doesn't matter.
Good to know thank you for the swift reply and thank you for everything that you are doing to educate us 💪🙏👍
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Great video! What do you guys think of the Bilstien 8112 and 8100 for the Tacoma? They are essentially bypass shocks all the way around without the need for the secondary shock up front.
We haven't tried them but the design and concept are sound. Bilstein doesn't make junk. However, like the ICON, the front coilover is not a bypass type. The springs get in the way. To run a bypass in the front you would need to run a secondary shock.
@@motoiq the 8112 uses 3 floating pistons to replicate the effect of a bypass. ome bp51s use an internal bypass setup on the coilover
@@123devinzz1 Ok this is like the Icon 3" coilovers and some King shocks
Who else noticed that bed flexing hard at 27:00
It’s a C Channel frame, working exactly how it was engineered to work
Do you recommend these for a long travel suspension?
yes
Motoiq , awesome video and system. How much for the complete system.
The ICON Stage 10 is currently around $ 6,300+...
@@freedomrider266 does that include the second front shock and mount?
@@freedomrider266 For $6300, you won't get 3 inch secondary shock and 3 inch rear shock. I think we are looking at almost 10k for his exact setup.
@@bersonlee icon doesnt offer 3 inch secondary or rear shocks. They only offer a 3 inch front shock for the tundra. So his rig has 3 inch front with a 2.5 inch secondary omega shock. the rear has the same 2.5 inch omega shock with the hydralic bumps and leaf pack. all said an done his whole kit is 11k just in parts. Again a baddass kit but not necassary for driving on road. I went with the 3.0 stage 1 kit and it will ride identical. Even folks over at aicon said that the secondary shock is only beneficial for hard core fast desert offroading. Regular highway driving makes zero difference.
I used airlift rear air bags and had to take off the icon bump stops using same mounting holes. How do you fit your airbags ? Mine do have the internal bump stops in air bags to prevent savage to airbags if air is lost
Do you recommend boxing the frame on the Tundra? I know they have a LOT of flex from the factory and Toyota claims this is a good thing, but I've seen plenty of cases where the bed collides with the cab because the frame flexes a lot. Also, the tundra is known for having "bed bounce" on concrete highways and I'm wondering if boxing the frame would help with that.
You need to be careful when reinforcing the frame, if you don't know what you are doing you can transfer the forces somewhere else. If you cab is hitting the bed, there are a lot of other parts of the chassis that should be beefed up first. We have driven our truck pretty hard and fast off road and that haven't happened yet.
Great segment. Mike, can you explain why Toyota runs so little caster on this truck? Are they trying to make sure with OEM suspension it's not super lazy on initial turn-in at slow speeds? Not a truck guy but curious. TIA
To be honest I am puzzled myself. Maybe to reduce power steering load and steering wheel kickback while offroading?
Did you have to install longer brake lines to the rear axel due to the additional droop provided by the rear leaf springs? I was thinking of buying this leaf pack for the additional weight capacity, my truck is constantly loaded with 1000lbs in the bed at all times. Thanks for the informative video! Cheers!
We modded the bracket to get more droop.
What LSD us installed ? I'm ready to purchase now.
Auburn
@@motoiq thanks!
hello, what is the wheel size please?
20x 9.5 zero offset
whats the lift it does?
Damn, getting serious. Those leaf spring packs are HEAVY.
Indeed they are!
I’d like my Tundra to drive more like a Range Rover, will this setup get me there?
Don't know what a range rover does but if you want to haul ass through rough terrain this is it.
1st said no fabrication but then said there would need to be a little welding? If I ever replace my shocks I want total bolt on ability.....no welding and no cutting.
Then you are probably not in the market for bypass shocks. As an alternative you can get a lower control arm with the bypass mount welded in like we did in the next video.
@@motoiq My Tundra TRD PRO has Fox 2.5 shock already with that piggyback on fronts and rear. Is that what you mean by "bypass"?
@@dalephillips8250 External damping circuits that give position-sensitive damping.
Very good video!!!!
Don't forget to include, they need to be rebuilt every 50k miles.
The Suspension costs more than My Truck its self. You get what you pay for.
You sound just like Jesse James…..crazy
No disrespect But you sound like Jesse James 😂
This is the most "Cali" dude I've ever seen...
Daaaaaammnnnnn