That makes me question something, If Disney Makes remakes of their Bad movies, Would they make them better or worse? Because they're already Bad in their animated form.
Yeppers I remember as a kid that the bad guys were the most comical And as I grew up I still stand by it And I really like slims concept hince why I really want to see him in disney villainous
I must admit that even though I know it's bad and cringy, I do have a soft spot for this movie. Consider it a guilty pleasure or something. However another movie I consider to be one of Disney's worst is their Madagascar ripoff known as The Wild. Rarely anyone ever talks about it or has even heard of it but I think that it's for the best to be forgotten.
I remember owning a DVD of it as a child. I didn't actually process what actually was going on, but I remember I wasn't interested/couldn't get into it.
I hated that movie because I used to loved Madagascar and just seeing the weird hyper realistic fur and the creepy bug eyes. Just made me have nightmares about it! Also I forgot the whole plot about the animals leaving the city to find the lion’s son or whatever. Also I like that more people are talking about that catastrophe of a movie
If you thought Alameda Slim's plan was dumb in the original film, there was a deleted scene where he stole cattle so he could become President of the United States. No I am not kidding, the deleted scene is shown on the DVD.
I desperately wish we could have the original version of this film, where Slim was collecting all the cattle to essentially cause a mega stampede and storm the white house in the world's most absurd coup. WHY COULDN'T WE HAVE GOTTEN THAT VERSION?
oh boy.. this is a tad embarrassing, I grew up with this film and I used to absolutely adore it, even now while I am aware of it's mediocrity, I still consider it a guilty pleasure of mine
To quote Patrick Star. "Well maybe it's stupid, but it's also dumb". But at least Disney still chose to include the Home on the Range characters in theirs Once Upon A Studio short.
At least it aint a 6 hour 6 minute 51 second video on why toy story 4 is a uneeded shit sequel. A topic you can just give three good reasons for it in less than 20 minutes.
I think it’s implied that Alameda Slim wants revenge because in the scene at the mines before he sees the farm land he’s missing, he says he used to work at ranches but got fired from all of them because the bosses “couldn’t appreciate his talents” Which I’m assuming is ‘they didn’t like his yodelling’ which is why he wants revenge on them all. Which is definitely silly but I just see Alameda as an old man whose been hurt too many times, though I really wish the movie would have expanded on that and given him a proper backstory and motive.
Exactly, this would be much better as a show than a movie. It's actually funny that I used to love this movie when it first came out, but I don't think it's that good as an adult. The only part I found all that funny was the Buffalo part.
I actually enjoyed this movie when I watched it with my sister, but I’ll watch till the end just to respect your opinion. Also, completely shocked it wasn’t Chiken Little!
The only joke I remember laughing at is in a deleted scene where different kinds of animals fall off a cliff in succession, including a flock of _flying bats_ as the punchline.
I'm gonna abduct all the cows in the world and use the milk in my milky weapon of destruction to drown the capital then frame the cows and force the world to drink goat milk and take over the world! That's the plot of Spyfox 1 Dry Cereal. They made it less silly than this movie or the scrapped idea for the plot.
Honestly, I have a massive soft spot for Dinosaur, mainly because it’s the first movie I ever remember watching and because I’m a massive prehistory nerd.
I remember watching Dinosaur but I couldn’t tell you what it’s about. I remember the egg and the lemurs at the beginning but nothing else. I’m not hating on it. I just don’t remember anything else about it.
Same, it’s the only Disney movie that I find to be enjoyable out of the 6 movies that were considered to be the worst at around the beginning of this video.
No joke, when my family first watched this (as if we ever watched it again) when I was 10, the only part I laughed at even then was how stupid the henchmen were, and only because it was so ridiculous. To this day, that is the only part of the movie I remember even.
Seems to me like the writers wanted to make Buck into a sort of Kronk character, but completely missed what makes Kronk work in the setting and why he’s so lovable
Personally, I didn’t think so. Based on Rocko’s judgement on Home on the Range trying to copy Shrek’s “edgy” humor, I wouldn’t be surprised if Maggie was Disney’s version of Shrek and Buck was their version of Donkey (just going off of their self-absorbed vibes).
@@kaileykrantz I dont really see Donkey in Buck he's not the lovable annoying sidekick character and Maggie wasn't anti social and grumpy . Also he and Maggie are not a duo a better Shrek and Donkey comparison is Manny and Sid from Ice Age .
A few explanations: 1. The joke about the henchmen not recognizing Slim in disguise isn't that the disguise is that bad but that he literally changes into the disguise in front of them and they don't have the object permanence to recognize him. Even if a disguise was complete perfection when a normal person sees you putting on the disguise they wouldn't be fooled by it. 2. Rico's villainy makes sense in so far that he only goes after criminals that are not Slim because he pays him and that he prevents the other guys from catching him (that's why they're late, you mentioned that). He's a bounty hunter that always follows what makes the most money. Buck's arc is about recognizing that heroics just for heroics' sake is meaningless when you're not doing it for a good cause. Buck idolized Rico because he was so cool and catching all the bad guys, Buck chose to go after Slim just to look heroic and impress Rico despite the cows having a much better reason to be the ones to bring Slim down. His idol turning out to be a bad guy himself is what makes Buck realize that just looking cool and heroic means nothing against actually doing the right thing which he then chooses to do. Him still wanting to look cool while doing so is not a big character flaw which is why he keeps this aspect of his character. 3. Buck working against the cows for half of the movie means that he's an antagonist for that time and you're not supposed to root for him. That's also why Maggie gets to mock him as much as she does not because he's arrogant but because he's actively trying to make their life harder. In the buffalo scene he even has the audacity to try to get the cows to help him weasel his way in so why shouldn't Maggie mock him for that? Him being a funny and ineffective antagonist is what makes him comparatively easy to forgive at the end but I guess that is difficult to make work when you find him annoying instead. I would also argue that Buck gets the comeuppance for many of his bad actions by how much sh*t happens to him in the movie; for example immediately after he tricks the other horse and insults it and the buffalo he runs into the buffalo again who heard that and reacts accordingly. 4. I don't think the guy cows were supposed to come off as creepy, just kind of stupid and incompetent at flirting. Grace is very receptive to them and Mrs Caloway was also very receptive to the buffalo who she ends up with. How necessary that plotline is is another question. 5. The reason Maggie wasn't caught the first time is because she was in her box and the door was closed so she couldn't get out even though she was still very much hynotized. 6. The idea behind the main trio is having characters with opposite personalities that can't stand each other having to team up to fulfill a mission and over time they recognize the good parts about each other and learn to get along better. Maggie's arc is about not only valuing show life and prizes but the bonds in a family and Mrs Caloway's is about loosening up and not being so strict on everything having to be prim and proper all the time. Grace gets along with both from the start and tries to mediate and encourages them to see each other's point of view. That's why they don't fundamentally change as characters but rather their relationship to each other. How good or badly the film accomplished this is debatable but that's the idea behind it. Maggie is also not as mean as you make her out to be. Yes, she's somewhat self-absorbed and loves getting attention but when she interacts with the other farm animals she mainly wants to entertain them. She makes jokes and does tricks and the others enjoy it. 7. The joke with the rabbit is that he's so insanely unlucky that this kind of stuff happens to him all the time despite him being a rabbit (with a rabbit's foot, obviously, which are supposedly lucky) and he's so used to it that it doesn't even faze him anymore. The opening goes for the same kind of slapstick humour that Scrat in the Ice Age movies does. I agree with several points you made (like the plot being guided by too many coincidences and the characters not having enough bonding time for the big emotions) but I think you're very much too harsh on a film that mostly wants to be an over-the-top comedy. Humour is subjective as you said, for me most of the jokes landed when I watched it several times as a kid and I still laughed at many of the scenes you explicitly complained about not being funny while watching this video. This is the type of movie that has ridiculous nonsensical stuff happen just because it's funny (like The Emperor's New Groove). It's not amazing by any means but I'd call it passably good and entertaining.
Jfc you just wrote a college essay defending this horrid film. Please get off the computer, you clearly spend way too much time on the internet. If it's not explained in the movie, then it's not explained. You can't make theories and say the writers succeeded because you have to do their job for them. Your "explanations" don't even work, because even if that was the writer's intention (it wasn't), *_it's still annoying, unfunny, and a chore to watch._*
P. S. It says a LOT about you that you think the creepy cows are "just bad at flirting". They literally proposition them. They're supposed to be a very badly executed joke about women getting harassed when walking at night. Aaaaand YOU'RE defending that. Yikes.
Yeah I agree with this comment. This film isn’t great in my opinion but it’s not the absolute scourge of the Earth. Else people wouldn’t be remembering it as fondly in the comments.
I think the only form of decent, innocent crude humor was in Thomas the Tank Engine of all places, where Percy misunderstood how to say a word, and just blurted out "testicles?" He clearly was saying that by accident, and as a kid the joke flew way over my head, but it's hilarious to see as an adult now, without souring my memory of the series either. If you'd ever give crude humor a pass, I'd say situations like that are the best ways to do it when kids are a factor as well.
Just a reminder, one of the earlier concepts for this movie involved edgy skeleton or ghost cowboys. They dropped that for cows... -side note, I would've made cringe cow and British cow middle-age-sapphic-coded instead of hooking any of them up with horny longhorns, but you didn't hear that from me-
The original plot of the villain was to collect a herd of cows to storm the whitehouse and take over the country. Dropped for obvious reasons. That's just too damn dumb.
You're right. Modern animated movies need to stop trying to be Shrek. Movies intended to be serious need to have their serious parts taken seriously. Not doing so essentially could make it offensive.
Yes and listen crude humour and gross out humour can work from a themic stand point and what made shreks gross out humour work is too show that all ogres are gross
These days, it’s less that they’re trying to be Shrek and more that they’re trying to be Despicable Me. I’d argue that nowadays it’s the MCU that’s aping Shrek.
Agreed. This is why I pretty much only watch indie animated films these days, they're the only ones doing something original and putting any effort into it.
@@WobblesandBean yeah it’s just because corporations don’t want to try something new and maybe try new like do something cool like make a prison break movie but the movie is about the guards point of view instead of the prisoners
Yanno, when I was a child I used to absolutely love this movie. And to this very day, I still have a soft spot for it, even after knowing after growing up (and after this video) how obnoxiously bad it is. The reason: the voice acting And no, I don't mean the original voice acting. I'm brazilian, and when this movie came out, our voice acting directors managed to cast the absolute most PERFECT matches for each character. I mean it when I say that the way our voice actors play their characters makes the characters, their interactions, and even the plot a 1000x better. It was spot on. And to this day I get good laughs even at the terrible jokes because of how expressive and fitting the voices are for the characters. That's how good brazilian voice acting is
Similar experience here. This was my absolute favourite movie when I was a child. Aparently I watched it multiple times a day according to my parents. The Latam Spanish dub is also amazing in my opinion, so I agree that the voice acting can really make a difference. From the scenes we got in English in this video, it certainly feels different
Yodeling works on the cows cause Yodeling is for calling cows, it was used to call free range cows back from over mountians and hills, so thats why they get "hypnotized" i guess cause his Yodeling is so AMAZING
I think the biggest point of absolute rage for me is that THIS is what killed the Renaissance for good. If Disney’s 2D department had gone under with The Black Cauldron, at least it would’ve been an ambitious project. Heck, if Atlantis or Treasure Planet had been their swan song, they would’ve gone out on an absolute banger! But no. It’s a juvenile, mild, bland, absolute stereotype of what family friendly animation is. Other than a brief resurgence with Princess and the Frog and Whinnie the Pooh, THIS is what killed 2D American animation. And that is sickeningly horrid to me.
Oh please. You honestly believe that Disney wasn't already trying to kill 2D animation? Ever since Pixar started making more money than them, they were determined to sabotage their own 2D movies. The only reason why they continued to make 2D animation in the 2000's is because those movies were already in pre-development and because Roy E. Disney had a fallout with Michael Eisner. But they sabotaged the marketing of movies like Atlantis and Treasure Planet by releasing them against movies they knew were going to be huge successes like Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings and releasing Princess and the Frog against Avatar. However, now that Pixar is now in Disney's position during the 2000's. Computers have become so advanced now that photorealistic animation is beginning to feel sterile. People now want 3D animation with 2D filters like Spider-Verse and Puss in Boots.
@@vetarlittorf1807 Also I didn’t say this was where Disney’s 2D animation industry started dying, I said this was what actually did it. So your comment has absolutely no purpose in this conversation except to act smarter than you really are
@@Flyboy1953 I mean, Disney had already been shifting to a more darker and mature tone with Hunchback of Notre Dame, Mulan and Tarzan during the Renaissance. Atlantis was more or less just following that formula, with the only difference being that Atlantis is not a musical.
@@robertlauncher They're right, though. Disney was *_trying_* to kill 2D animation. Katzenberg started it by deliberately butchering The Black Cauldron, and I guess this film finished it.
So, as a fun fact, the random bull who has a line in this "maybe we can help you" (it's been a long time since I saw this and don't feel like rewatching it any time soon, but i think the bull shows up twice) is voiced by one of the animators. The same animator would later go on to randomly be the voice of Rhino the Hamster in Bolt. He says they regularly have animators voice roles as they are animating it since it makes it a little easier to actually animate. The higher-ups usually watch it so they can get more of a feel for the characters so they can voice them, and on very rare occasions the character ends up with one of the animator's voices - obviously this is more common with the smaller roles (like the bulls who have just 1 line).
He has returned. I have only seen this movie once and from what I remember, I thought that while the movie wasn't good, it did entertain me. The movie was so balls off the walls that I ended up enjoying it in a so bad its good kind of way (although I didn't think the movie was even that bad). I don't particularly dislike this movie and I would definitely watch it over some of Disney's other weaker movies.
@@bigbangbot-SuperSqank I see. I don't know much about Space Age but your current avatar seems nice. Though if you decide to change it, that'll be okay.
@@jessicapinkman-hd4bwDude literally commented in the most calm and reasonable manner and you still got your panties in a twist lmao Rockotar even liked this comment, this channel appreciates sharing different viewpoints
@@frauleinzuckerguss1906right They got a bit offended almost immediately I think I did the same thing with a music creator while also saying that i liked the video and the creator immediately made accusations that I was a disgrace to the music industry and I'm not a real critique which that parts true but he was super rude about it
honestly i know he hates the animation but i freaking love the animation in this movie im not a fan of ultra realistic animation (it looks uncanny to me) so i LOVE the art style :)
You know, given your criticisms towards the movies you criticized, saying Cars 2 was actually good (i saw your comment in Schaff's subreddit, the names matched) is the last thing i expected from you.
honestly, i thought the reaction parts were a lot of fun and I've watched this movie a dozen times, and I've forgotten pretty much every detail. It has no staying power in my head
Only think i can tell about the farmer lady is that she reminds me of my grandma. And i can tell personalitywise about the part where Patch of Heaven survived many bad weathers must tell she's pretty tough and able to protect her animals.
My brother and I dragged my dad to the theaters all those years ago to see this. In the end, not worth it. And just seeing clips of this turns me off to ever seeing it again even more. Definitely one of my Unholy Trinity of Disney movies. Here's hoping Once Upon a Studio was the last time Disney acknowledges this abomination.
Actually, here's a bit of a correction about the production of the film. It actually began production in the 1990's, and was originally going to be a lot more dark. But like what happened with The Emperor's New Groove, the film got changed to be a lighthearted comedy Though, there is a chance that the film had executive meddling behind it to try and be Shrek. Given that this also happened with Chicken Little, where it was supposed to focus more on the father and daughter aspect and generally be grounded in some way. Before executive meddling caused it to try and be Shrek
In hindsight, I *knew* that this would be the third member of The Unholy Disney Godhead due to it effectively killing off 2-D animations as a whole for the next 5 years!😅 Continue to stay iconic, Rocko!
The thing about Chicken Little that I loath about it is they had gotten way too much credit for Toy Story even though I understand that it was for contractual reasons behind the scenes at the time but they were the ones who were the Cream of the Crop during the Great Depression and during WWII so the fact they did Chicken Little and looks the way it does is not really except able I’d still give it at least 50%I actually don’t entirely mind the movie *Home On The Range*but I’m not saying it’s terrific but I’d give a 50% as well.
3:10 I actually liked Dinosaur when I was little. However, as I got older, I was less into the plot and more into it's highly realistic animation, which, in my opinion, still holds up to this day. According to special features that came with the DVD (not sure if I still have it), the movie combined live action with CGI. In fact, I remember when they explained how they came up with the meteor scene. The explosion made by the giant meteor was a real explosion film upside down, before later being edited on the computer. This created the effect of the meteor's explosion blast moving across the water.
The real reason why you became Evil Rockotar was because you were sick and tired of those three cows being obnoxious so you decided to become evil and steal the villains spotlight--
I SWEAR Alameda Slim's motivation for buying up all the farmland was for the purpose of striking oil. I SWEAR I remember a geyser of oil bursting out of the ground on the farm during the finale! Must have brushed up against a parallel universe where this movie was halfway decently written.
I remember watching this movie as a kid a few times. The only reason I liked watching it was the animation itself, and I remember getting bored and not knowing what was going on lol Also, I really enjoyed the reaction bits you included in the video! It was entertaining to see your reactions and comments while watching the movie! I felt like the audience and I were sharing a moment with you reacting to different scenes, or maybe that’s just me 😁
The theory about the movie always having to have characters to be frantic because Disney thinking it needed to justify its existence because it was a 2D animated movie would actually make a lot of sense now that you mentioned it.
I am ASTOUNDED you don't think Chicken Little is an abomination and one of the worst movies Disney has ever made... But Home on the Range is a very solid choice. I wish I had never seen this movie either.
This movie just doesn’t know went to stop doing jokes and they should have developed characters more. Also I really like the reaction clips, really helps to explain the absurdity of some scenes!
“Then he runs away while getting sucked on by the snake” 😂 that got me 6:52 I watch this movie not that long ago and I already forgot entire scenes even happened.
If I had to guess. The villain was probably a rancher before the homestead act. Because they pretty much grabbed the land, without legal authority. Then the homesteaders came in and legally got the land, taking it away from the original rancher. It was a popular western (at least by Louis Lamor) plotline.
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy No I am pretty sure that in the Movie, he explains that he was mocked for wanting to use his yodeling to herd the cattle. Which is a thing btw, though typically used to herd the cows home, not on the trail. Thus why he is buying the land of the ranchers who refused to hire him. Its what caused the scene where the nephew says "maybe they just didn't like your singing". I am not sure how you missed that. However, you have a point in his plan making too much sense. Because in the special editions of the DVD, there is a deleted scene where he instead of selling the cows, wants to use them as an army to storm the white house. Thus becoming president.
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy And something tells me that out of the three of Pixar's weakest films you would choose to review, Cars 2 won't be one of them.
Can you believe the people who wrote the songs for this movie also wrote the songs for Tangled??!! Alan Menken and Glenn Slater, what are you doing??!!
Just finished the review, great stuff as always! You’re like the Anti GamingMagic13, your points have value to them, and you don’t rely on the same clips every 10 seconds. I also didn’t know that Steve Buscemi’s character was actually your evil twin! I do have a question though. You mentioned that only one song is sung by Alameda Slim, and the rest are all sung by an unseen source. However, the same also applies with the film Tarzan. I probably already know the answer, but how does Tarzan convey its messages through songs better than Home on the Range? Either way, keep up the fantastic work!
There is one joke which is not just good, but golden in this film. And it’s the gag where one of the goon’s head was blocking a ranch on the map. It was absurd, surprising, set up well and expands on the story.
Remember what I said on your Star Wars video about how it’s better to praise the stuff you like than to rant about the stuff you hate? Yeah, it’s time to quit watching Shaffrilas and Saberspark videos.
Pretty sure it was bad by design. They wanted this to flop, and also Brother Bear (they slashed six months from its development time.) They wanted the excuse to go to 3D CGI by whining, "But 2D cartoons aren't profitable any more!" One of the other excuses an executive gave was that someone had congratulated him on Ice Age, which wasn't a Disney film.,..as if half the population of the US didn't/doesn't believe that every single cartoon movie ever made is by Disney. When you see the message at the end of Meet the Robinsons, about how Disney always pursues the shiny new toy, oops, the newest innovations, remember that it was not an aspirational sentiment at the time it was made, it was an excuse of 'We know our CGI is crappy, but it's new and exciting so we're trashing our 2D department forever."
I was in elementary school when the Disney Renaissance began, and a senior in high school the year that it ended. All throughout those years I remember looking forward to finding out what the next big Disney film of the year was going to be. I appreciated the movies differently as an eight-year-old than I did as an eighteen-year-old, but it worked because they had a quality that appealed to a wide age range. Then this one came out. When I saw the previews, my thought was "Well, it was nice while it lasted."
Heyy don't diss Aristocats! It was a sweet little movie about cats, it works, the animation is soft, it's a childhood classic. Even rewatching it, it wasn't faulty of anything horrible. Well, except for the Chinese-stereotype cat, but it was a cute cat at least.
Dinosaur is bad not because of how bad a movie it is... It's bad because it was an attempt to rival jurassic park and pushed away beastly kingdom... The legacy this movie had transcended the screen and now, decades later, is only FINALLY being recognized as a product of its time to make way with something better
I agree with what you said about Chicken Little. He's actually a good character. I even cheered for him during the baseball scene because he actually proved everyone wrong that he's not a complete joke.
I'd rather watch a bad movie than a boring one, hell I'm kinda the opposite where I actually like watching bad movies more than I enjoy watching good movies
I personally really enjoy this movie. It's very cute, the songs are super catchy, and I enjoy its more unique Chuck Jones/Tex Avery style than other Disney films. Regardless of what you think of the rest of the movie though, I think we can all agree that Alameda Slim is AMAZING! 'Cause he yodels... and yodelin' is an ART!!!! 🤣
The to bulls are bad copies of the 2 moose from the original Brother Bear The triplets not recognizing their uncle when he's in disguise is the "joke" from the Emperors New School (Kronk is so stupid that he can't recognize Yzma when she's in disguise) I think the reason why the bulls each got a cow is... It can't be a Disney ending if the "princesses" don't get their "princes" and their "happily ever after"
Someone said they made the 3 main characters essemtially incessantly argue because it have to do with one of the directors/writers/producers being misogynistic & thinking 3 female leads couldn't work together naturally.
Personally, I do think Chicken Little is worse than Ralph Breaks the Internet, and really stupid movie, too. But I do agree this movie is most stupid movie ever, this shows everything wrong about making a story and a actually movie (or series). Also the reason why Chicken Little is worse than Home on the Range was because with the animation honestly and the horrible father character/the worst cartoon father character ever.
So, I found you through your Cedric video, and for some reason this has made it so hearing your voice immediately made my brain go "ah, its Cedric talking" Anyway another amazing video, keep em up!
Cows are actually susceptible to calls. They used to do this in the past in Sweden, it's called "kulning". When the cows were scattered around the field or somewhere far away and you wanted to call them in you were basically yodelling at them and they recognized the call and came running over
I have to say, personally being boring (despite the attempts to not be boring) is like the 3rd worst thing for a movie to be, the 2nd would be offensive or hateful while trying to justify why that offense or hate is justified, and the 1st worst thing for a movie to be is a collection of ads disguised as a movie. Which actually aligns with the types of movies on this list and the order of their watchablity.
Never forget, the undermining and fall of western 2D animation happened because those movies had something that 3D movies just didn't. Good unions that didn't let the animators be exploited. Same goes for a lot of the stuff in live action movies that are just done with CG nowadays.
A better example of a wacky animated comedy starring talking animals is Madagascar, a movie that came out a year after this film. Madagascar is just as stylized and cartoonish as Home on the Range yet unlike the latter, Madagascar was legitimately funny and memorable with strong humor with good jokes, likable characters and while cartoonish in it's own right, is more substance over style by having a heart amidst it's wacky tone. And the relationship between the characters are a lot more palpable and healthy than any interaction between the animals in Home on the Range. Alex for example is a much better version of Maggie and Buck by making a self absorbed character front and center because unlike those two, Alex, while starting off selfish and egotistical, doesn't stay that way forever and actually grows and develops as a character. And despite Madagascar's Looney Tunes style esthetic, it's not over the top and chooses to rely more on character interaction more so than just slapstick. Maybe you should do an analysis on that film next and point out the differences of why that film works as a comedy while this one doesn't.
Oh and what do ya know, Home on the Range came out the same as Shark Tale. Another animated movie that tried (and failed) to copy Shrek's formula! Go figure.
I think Diva said it best in her Musical Hell review of this movie: “You know how halfway through the production of Toy Story, they had to practically start over from scratch, because the creators realized that Woody was such an unlikeable character that he dragged the whole thing down? This is what would have happened if they hadn’t come to their senses!”
This was actually the last straw for Disney 2D Animation considering the amazing track record it has in the library, and haven't developed the medium until The Princess and The Frog (2009) and Winnie The Pooh (2011) but that's just about it. 😑
I don't know how I got dealt the fascination with salvaging ideas, but I have one project where I could probably do what Home on the Range tried some justice called Canvas Prairie. To stick to the cribnotes of what I'm thinking, 1) the plot is not only going to need the fat trimmed but saved for a point in the story that would translate to a season finale or premiere (I intend Canvas Prairie to be a long running story with several chapters) that way all characters and home bases involved have had enough screentime for the audience to connect; 2) the conflict is something that would have to be tailored to the setting that way the stakes are properly scaled, characters losing their ranch during the 1930s with the Great Depression in effect and things like The Dust Bowl crippling agriculture to a threat spurred by those factors should be a very real possibility; 3) tying into the last one, if a villain is going to make things worse for the protagonists then it's going to be an instance of, again, setting factors that garner some audience understanding but ultimately not winning audience support because of how those not even affiliated got screwed over by basically a power trip. I've got more notes for what needs to be fixed to properly salvage Home on the Range in another form but I'm going to put that on the slow cooker a while longer.
1:24:40 The only part of this remarkably in-depth analysis that I disagree with is where Rockotar argues that Home on the Range made people think that "CGI 3D animation is for everyone, but traditional, hand-drawn 2D animation is only for little kids." Wrong! In case you haven't watched the Oscars lately (because, let's be honest, why would you?), people these days seem to think that ALL animation is for little kids. In fact, if anything was true, it would be that 2D animation is being seen as something of a renaissance of hand-drawn artistry, while CGI is seen as a soulless corporate product. Otherwise, this was a very entertaining and thoughtful review--far more entertaining and thoughtful than the film itself! 😊
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Hey Disney, all I have to say is, if you ever remake this movie, you know who to cast as Mr. Wesley
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Does this mean that Mr. Wesley is your new character mascot for your channel?
@@Yellowguy0619 who knows...
It maybe the stupidest movie but it’s hilariously so.
That makes me question something, If Disney Makes remakes of their Bad movies, Would they make them better or worse? Because they're already Bad in their animated form.
I don't care if the movie is garbage, the yodelling song is absolute fire and I stand by it
Ik right
Yeppers
I remember as a kid that the bad guys were the most comical
And as I grew up I still stand by it
And I really like slims concept hince why I really want to see him in disney villainous
Bro same I’ll die on this hill
Yeah and it spanish that song slaps too
It's actually kino
I must admit that even though I know it's bad and cringy, I do have a soft spot for this movie. Consider it a guilty pleasure or something.
However another movie I consider to be one of Disney's worst is their Madagascar ripoff known as The Wild. Rarely anyone ever talks about it or has even heard of it but I think that it's for the best to be forgotten.
I remember owning a DVD of it as a child. I didn't actually process what actually was going on, but I remember I wasn't interested/couldn't get into it.
Disney didn't actually make the movie. They were just the distrubutors.
Ah, I see. That would explain why none of its characters made an appearance in the Once Upon a Studio short.
I hated that movie because I used to loved Madagascar and just seeing the weird hyper realistic fur and the creepy bug eyes.
Just made me have nightmares about it! Also I forgot the whole plot about the animals leaving the city to find the lion’s son or whatever.
Also I like that more people are talking about that catastrophe of a movie
Totals forgot about the wild. This is just a dumb goofy movie with some funky songs. And that’s why I like it
If you thought Alameda Slim's plan was dumb in the original film, there was a deleted scene where he stole cattle so he could become President of the United States. No I am not kidding, the deleted scene is shown on the DVD.
That’s so bad that it’s hilarious
I desperately wish we could have the original version of this film, where Slim was collecting all the cattle to essentially cause a mega stampede and storm the white house in the world's most absurd coup. WHY COULDN'T WE HAVE GOTTEN THAT VERSION?
He also raised the dead at one point
They should have kept that plan. Really play into the farce.
That's actually hilarious.
Henchman: "How you gonna become president, Uncle Slim?"
Slim: *"C O W"*
oh boy.. this is a tad embarrassing, I grew up with this film and I used to absolutely adore it, even now while I am aware of it's mediocrity, I still consider it a guilty pleasure of mine
Same this movie was my childhood XD
it's a guilty pleasure for sure
now i count two
It was a fun concept!
Sameee, i loved this movie when i was a kid.
Same
To quote Patrick Star. "Well maybe it's stupid, but it's also dumb".
But at least Disney still chose to include the Home on the Range characters in theirs Once Upon A Studio short.
Only Rockotar could write hour long reviews on the most random movies ever made
I know right, love the guy
This is also 11 minutes longer than the og film
But isn't that why we love him
At least it aint a 6 hour 6 minute 51 second video on why toy story 4 is a uneeded shit sequel. A topic you can just give three good reasons for it in less than 20 minutes.
I think it’s implied that Alameda Slim wants revenge because in the scene at the mines before he sees the farm land he’s missing, he says he used to work at ranches but got fired from all of them because the bosses “couldn’t appreciate his talents” Which I’m assuming is ‘they didn’t like his yodelling’ which is why he wants revenge on them all.
Which is definitely silly but I just see Alameda as an old man whose been hurt too many times, though I really wish the movie would have expanded on that and given him a proper backstory and motive.
I feel like this movie would be A LOT better if it was a show instead. It would make it much more enjoyable to sit through and watch.
So...Moo Mesa without the charm, good characters, or decent writing?
Would’ve been too much like Barnyard imo
Exactly, this would be much better as a show than a movie. It's actually funny that I used to love this movie when it first came out, but I don't think it's that good as an adult. The only part I found all that funny was the Buffalo part.
I actually enjoyed this movie when I watched it with my sister, but I’ll watch till the end just to respect your opinion. Also, completely shocked it wasn’t Chiken Little!
Yes, this is one of those "shut your brain off and enjoy it," movies. It's good if you don't think about it too much
The only joke I remember laughing at is in a deleted scene where different kinds of animals fall off a cliff in succession, including a flock of _flying bats_ as the punchline.
Anti quality assurance.
If you laugh, it's too clever for the movie.
This isnt even mentioning that this movie's plot feels more like a Saturday Morning cartoon rather than an actual movie released to the big screen.
Honestly, that's what it should've been. A Saturday cartoon. Not a movie.
I'm gonna abduct all the cows in the world and use the milk in my milky weapon of destruction to drown the capital then frame the cows and force the world to drink goat milk and take over the world!
That's the plot of Spyfox 1 Dry Cereal. They made it less silly than this movie or the scrapped idea for the plot.
Honestly, I have a massive soft spot for Dinosaur, mainly because it’s the first movie I ever remember watching and because I’m a massive prehistory nerd.
I remember watching Dinosaur but I couldn’t tell you what it’s about. I remember the egg and the lemurs at the beginning but nothing else. I’m not hating on it. I just don’t remember anything else about it.
Same here.
Same, it’s the only Disney movie that I find to be enjoyable out of the 6 movies that were considered to be the worst at around the beginning of this video.
Childhood film
No joke, when my family first watched this (as if we ever watched it again) when I was 10, the only part I laughed at even then was how stupid the henchmen were, and only because it was so ridiculous. To this day, that is the only part of the movie I remember even.
Same.
Seems to me like the writers wanted to make Buck into a sort of Kronk character, but completely missed what makes Kronk work in the setting and why he’s so lovable
Oh, right. Missing the mark! The mark of missing, the mark specifically missed by this movies creators. The missed mark. 😀
Personally, I didn’t think so. Based on Rocko’s judgement on Home on the Range trying to copy Shrek’s “edgy” humor, I wouldn’t be surprised if Maggie was Disney’s version of Shrek and Buck was their version of Donkey (just going off of their self-absorbed vibes).
@@kaileykrantz I dont really see Donkey in Buck he's not the lovable annoying sidekick character and Maggie wasn't anti social and grumpy .
Also he and Maggie are not a duo a better Shrek and Donkey comparison is Manny and Sid from Ice Age .
A few explanations:
1. The joke about the henchmen not recognizing Slim in disguise isn't that the disguise is that bad but that he literally changes into the disguise in front of them and they don't have the object permanence to recognize him. Even if a disguise was complete perfection when a normal person sees you putting on the disguise they wouldn't be fooled by it.
2. Rico's villainy makes sense in so far that he only goes after criminals that are not Slim because he pays him and that he prevents the other guys from catching him (that's why they're late, you mentioned that). He's a bounty hunter that always follows what makes the most money. Buck's arc is about recognizing that heroics just for heroics' sake is meaningless when you're not doing it for a good cause. Buck idolized Rico because he was so cool and catching all the bad guys, Buck chose to go after Slim just to look heroic and impress Rico despite the cows having a much better reason to be the ones to bring Slim down. His idol turning out to be a bad guy himself is what makes Buck realize that just looking cool and heroic means nothing against actually doing the right thing which he then chooses to do. Him still wanting to look cool while doing so is not a big character flaw which is why he keeps this aspect of his character.
3. Buck working against the cows for half of the movie means that he's an antagonist for that time and you're not supposed to root for him. That's also why Maggie gets to mock him as much as she does not because he's arrogant but because he's actively trying to make their life harder. In the buffalo scene he even has the audacity to try to get the cows to help him weasel his way in so why shouldn't Maggie mock him for that? Him being a funny and ineffective antagonist is what makes him comparatively easy to forgive at the end but I guess that is difficult to make work when you find him annoying instead. I would also argue that Buck gets the comeuppance for many of his bad actions by how much sh*t happens to him in the movie; for example immediately after he tricks the other horse and insults it and the buffalo he runs into the buffalo again who heard that and reacts accordingly.
4. I don't think the guy cows were supposed to come off as creepy, just kind of stupid and incompetent at flirting. Grace is very receptive to them and Mrs Caloway was also very receptive to the buffalo who she ends up with. How necessary that plotline is is another question.
5. The reason Maggie wasn't caught the first time is because she was in her box and the door was closed so she couldn't get out even though she was still very much hynotized.
6. The idea behind the main trio is having characters with opposite personalities that can't stand each other having to team up to fulfill a mission and over time they recognize the good parts about each other and learn to get along better. Maggie's arc is about not only valuing show life and prizes but the bonds in a family and Mrs Caloway's is about loosening up and not being so strict on everything having to be prim and proper all the time. Grace gets along with both from the start and tries to mediate and encourages them to see each other's point of view. That's why they don't fundamentally change as characters but rather their relationship to each other. How good or badly the film accomplished this is debatable but that's the idea behind it. Maggie is also not as mean as you make her out to be. Yes, she's somewhat self-absorbed and loves getting attention but when she interacts with the other farm animals she mainly wants to entertain them. She makes jokes and does tricks and the others enjoy it.
7. The joke with the rabbit is that he's so insanely unlucky that this kind of stuff happens to him all the time despite him being a rabbit (with a rabbit's foot, obviously, which are supposedly lucky) and he's so used to it that it doesn't even faze him anymore. The opening goes for the same kind of slapstick humour that Scrat in the Ice Age movies does.
I agree with several points you made (like the plot being guided by too many coincidences and the characters not having enough bonding time for the big emotions) but I think you're very much too harsh on a film that mostly wants to be an over-the-top comedy. Humour is subjective as you said, for me most of the jokes landed when I watched it several times as a kid and I still laughed at many of the scenes you explicitly complained about not being funny while watching this video. This is the type of movie that has ridiculous nonsensical stuff happen just because it's funny (like The Emperor's New Groove). It's not amazing by any means but I'd call it passably good and entertaining.
Jfc you just wrote a college essay defending this horrid film. Please get off the computer, you clearly spend way too much time on the internet.
If it's not explained in the movie, then it's not explained. You can't make theories and say the writers succeeded because you have to do their job for them. Your "explanations" don't even work, because even if that was the writer's intention (it wasn't), *_it's still annoying, unfunny, and a chore to watch._*
P. S. It says a LOT about you that you think the creepy cows are "just bad at flirting". They literally proposition them. They're supposed to be a very badly executed joke about women getting harassed when walking at night. Aaaaand YOU'RE defending that. Yikes.
My goodness man
You wrote all of this for free?
Wow. People are being mean because someone was defending a movie?
Guys let people like what they like. I found it funny
Yeah I agree with this comment. This film isn’t great in my opinion but it’s not the absolute scourge of the Earth. Else people wouldn’t be remembering it as fondly in the comments.
I think the only form of decent, innocent crude humor was in Thomas the Tank Engine of all places, where Percy misunderstood how to say a word, and just blurted out "testicles?"
He clearly was saying that by accident, and as a kid the joke flew way over my head, but it's hilarious to see as an adult now, without souring my memory of the series either. If you'd ever give crude humor a pass, I'd say situations like that are the best ways to do it when kids are a factor as well.
"Will The Sun Ever Shine Again" isn't awful but it just doesn't work very well in an otherwise goofy movie like this one.
Just a reminder, one of the earlier concepts for this movie involved edgy skeleton or ghost cowboys. They dropped that for cows...
-side note, I would've made cringe cow and British cow middle-age-sapphic-coded instead of hooking any of them up with horny longhorns, but you didn't hear that from me-
The original plot of the villain was to collect a herd of cows to storm the whitehouse and take over the country.
Dropped for obvious reasons. That's just too damn dumb.
you could see their flirtations as intruding on their lesbeef relationship
You're right. Modern animated movies need to stop trying to be Shrek. Movies intended to be serious need to have their serious parts taken seriously. Not doing so essentially could make it offensive.
Yes and listen crude humour and gross out humour can work from a themic stand point and what made shreks gross out humour work is too show that all ogres are gross
These days, it’s less that they’re trying to be Shrek and more that they’re trying to be Despicable Me. I’d argue that nowadays it’s the MCU that’s aping Shrek.
@@austinreed7343 yeah I think movies should try to be there on thing instead of trying to replicate their success usually that doesn’t always work
Agreed. This is why I pretty much only watch indie animated films these days, they're the only ones doing something original and putting any effort into it.
@@WobblesandBean yeah it’s just because corporations don’t want to try something new and maybe try new like do something cool like make a prison break movie but the movie is about the guards point of view instead of the prisoners
Yanno, when I was a child I used to absolutely love this movie. And to this very day, I still have a soft spot for it, even after knowing after growing up (and after this video) how obnoxiously bad it is. The reason: the voice acting
And no, I don't mean the original voice acting. I'm brazilian, and when this movie came out, our voice acting directors managed to cast the absolute most PERFECT matches for each character. I mean it when I say that the way our voice actors play their characters makes the characters, their interactions, and even the plot a 1000x better. It was spot on. And to this day I get good laughs even at the terrible jokes because of how expressive and fitting the voices are for the characters.
That's how good brazilian voice acting is
Similar experience here. This was my absolute favourite movie when I was a child. Aparently I watched it multiple times a day according to my parents. The Latam Spanish dub is also amazing in my opinion, so I agree that the voice acting can really make a difference. From the scenes we got in English in this video, it certainly feels different
Same case with the greek dub of this film.
Yodeling works on the cows cause Yodeling is for calling cows, it was used to call free range cows back from over mountians and hills, so thats why they get "hypnotized" i guess cause his Yodeling is so AMAZING
that, and pied piper vibes
It's related to Scandinavian kulning
I think the biggest point of absolute rage for me is that THIS is what killed the Renaissance for good. If Disney’s 2D department had gone under with The Black Cauldron, at least it would’ve been an ambitious project. Heck, if Atlantis or Treasure Planet had been their swan song, they would’ve gone out on an absolute banger!
But no. It’s a juvenile, mild, bland, absolute stereotype of what family friendly animation is. Other than a brief resurgence with Princess and the Frog and Whinnie the Pooh, THIS is what killed 2D American animation. And that is sickeningly horrid to me.
Oh please. You honestly believe that Disney wasn't already trying to kill 2D animation? Ever since Pixar started making more money than them, they were determined to sabotage their own 2D movies. The only reason why they continued to make 2D animation in the 2000's is because those movies were already in pre-development and because Roy E. Disney had a fallout with Michael Eisner. But they sabotaged the marketing of movies like Atlantis and Treasure Planet by releasing them against movies they knew were going to be huge successes like Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings and releasing Princess and the Frog against Avatar.
However, now that Pixar is now in Disney's position during the 2000's. Computers have become so advanced now that photorealistic animation is beginning to feel sterile. People now want 3D animation with 2D filters like Spider-Verse and Puss in Boots.
@@vetarlittorf1807 I didn’t ask for the attitude but thank you
@@vetarlittorf1807 Also I didn’t say this was where Disney’s 2D animation industry started dying, I said this was what actually did it. So your comment has absolutely no purpose in this conversation except to act smarter than you really are
@@Flyboy1953 I mean, Disney had already been shifting to a more darker and mature tone with Hunchback of Notre Dame, Mulan and Tarzan during the Renaissance. Atlantis was more or less just following that formula, with the only difference being that Atlantis is not a musical.
@@robertlauncher They're right, though. Disney was *_trying_* to kill 2D animation. Katzenberg started it by deliberately butchering The Black Cauldron, and I guess this film finished it.
So, as a fun fact, the random bull who has a line in this "maybe we can help you" (it's been a long time since I saw this and don't feel like rewatching it any time soon, but i think the bull shows up twice) is voiced by one of the animators. The same animator would later go on to randomly be the voice of Rhino the Hamster in Bolt.
He says they regularly have animators voice roles as they are animating it since it makes it a little easier to actually animate. The higher-ups usually watch it so they can get more of a feel for the characters so they can voice them, and on very rare occasions the character ends up with one of the animator's voices - obviously this is more common with the smaller roles (like the bulls who have just 1 line).
That's so cool! Thanks for sharing
He has returned. I have only seen this movie once and from what I remember, I thought that while the movie wasn't good, it did entertain me. The movie was so balls off the walls that I ended up enjoying it in a so bad its good kind of way (although I didn't think the movie was even that bad). I don't particularly dislike this movie and I would definitely watch it over some of Disney's other weaker movies.
Hey, who's that that you're using as your avatar?
They are from Space Ace. I am considering changing my PFP in the near future.
@@bigbangbot-SuperSqank I see. I don't know much about Space Age but your current avatar seems nice. Though if you decide to change it, that'll be okay.
@@meta527IISpace Ace is an old Laser Disc arcade game made by animator Don Bluth.
Loved this film as a kid and to this day can appreciate it, shame this video addresses it so negatively.
@@jessicapinkman-hd4bwchill
TBF when you're a kid you're gonna like pretty much any animated movies.
@@jessicapinkman-hd4bwDude literally commented in the most calm and reasonable manner and you still got your panties in a twist lmao
Rockotar even liked this comment, this channel appreciates sharing different viewpoints
@@frauleinzuckerguss1906right
They got a bit offended almost immediately
I think I did the same thing with a music creator while also saying that i liked the video and the creator immediately made accusations that I was a disgrace to the music industry and I'm not a real critique which that parts true but he was super rude about it
honestly i know he hates the animation but i freaking love the animation in this movie
im not a fan of ultra realistic animation (it looks uncanny to me)
so i LOVE the art style :)
You know, given your criticisms towards the movies you criticized, saying Cars 2 was actually good (i saw your comment in Schaff's subreddit, the names matched) is the last thing i expected from you.
Even though I’m a huge Chicken Little apologist I was fully expecting it to be on this list
honestly, i thought the reaction parts were a lot of fun
and I've watched this movie a dozen times, and I've forgotten pretty much every detail. It has no staying power in my head
Only think i can tell about the farmer lady is that she reminds me of my grandma. And i can tell personalitywise about the part where Patch of Heaven survived many bad weathers must tell she's pretty tough and able to protect her animals.
My brother and I dragged my dad to the theaters all those years ago to see this. In the end, not worth it. And just seeing clips of this turns me off to ever seeing it again even more. Definitely one of my Unholy Trinity of Disney movies.
Here's hoping Once Upon a Studio was the last time Disney acknowledges this abomination.
I watched this movie on tv when i was in hospital many years ago, and i hated it back then
Actually, here's a bit of a correction about the production of the film. It actually began production in the 1990's, and was originally going to be a lot more dark. But like what happened with The Emperor's New Groove, the film got changed to be a lighthearted comedy
Though, there is a chance that the film had executive meddling behind it to try and be Shrek. Given that this also happened with Chicken Little, where it was supposed to focus more on the father and daughter aspect and generally be grounded in some way. Before executive meddling caused it to try and be Shrek
Unlike Home on the Range, Emperor's New Groove is an amazing animated buddy comedy.
In hindsight, I *knew* that this would be the third member of The Unholy Disney Godhead due to it effectively killing off 2-D animations as a whole for the next 5 years!😅 Continue to stay iconic, Rocko!
The thing about Chicken Little that I loath about it is they had gotten way too much credit for Toy Story even though I understand that it was for contractual reasons behind the scenes at the time but they were the ones who were the Cream of the Crop during the Great Depression and during WWII so the fact they did Chicken Little and looks the way it does is not really except able I’d still give it at least 50%I actually don’t entirely mind the movie *Home On The Range*but I’m not saying it’s terrific but I’d give a 50% as well.
3:10 I actually liked Dinosaur when I was little. However, as I got older, I was less into the plot and more into it's highly realistic animation, which, in my opinion, still holds up to this day. According to special features that came with the DVD (not sure if I still have it), the movie combined live action with CGI. In fact, I remember when they explained how they came up with the meteor scene. The explosion made by the giant meteor was a real explosion film upside down, before later being edited on the computer. This created the effect of the meteor's explosion blast moving across the water.
The real reason why you became Evil Rockotar was because you were sick and tired of those three cows being obnoxious so you decided to become evil and steal the villains spotlight--
This channel is underrated… It makes really good videos and is also really great at editing and criticism.
I SWEAR Alameda Slim's motivation for buying up all the farmland was for the purpose of striking oil. I SWEAR I remember a geyser of oil bursting out of the ground on the farm during the finale!
Must have brushed up against a parallel universe where this movie was halfway decently written.
Home on the Range over Chicken Little? I’m surprised! Just started the video, already expecting a fantastic review!
I remember watching this movie as a kid a few times. The only reason I liked watching it was the animation itself, and I remember getting bored and not knowing what was going on lol
Also, I really enjoyed the reaction bits you included in the video! It was entertaining to see your reactions and comments while watching the movie! I felt like the audience and I were sharing a moment with you reacting to different scenes, or maybe that’s just me 😁
The theory about the movie always having to have characters to be frantic because Disney thinking it needed to justify its existence because it was a 2D animated movie would actually make a lot of sense now that you mentioned it.
This film is a stroke of genius compared to a lot of the other garbage films Disney has been releasing.
Well, I can't say it isn't at least original, unlike all the recent remakes.
I am ASTOUNDED you don't think Chicken Little is an abomination and one of the worst movies Disney has ever made...
But Home on the Range is a very solid choice. I wish I had never seen this movie either.
Remember the sleigh crash of 64? *Chicken little picture* that bad? WORSE. Lol that joke makes me laugh every time😂😂😂
This movie just doesn’t know went to stop doing jokes and they should have developed characters more. Also I really like the reaction clips, really helps to explain the absurdity of some scenes!
“Then he runs away while getting sucked on by the snake” 😂 that got me 6:52
I watch this movie not that long ago and I already forgot entire scenes even happened.
If I had to guess. The villain was probably a rancher before the homestead act. Because they pretty much grabbed the land, without legal authority. Then the homesteaders came in and legally got the land, taking it away from the original rancher. It was a popular western (at least by Louis Lamor) plotline.
That would make sense, but we shouldn't have to fill in important blanks like this with likely theories to make sense of the plot.
I though the only motive he had was he couldn't take criticism over people not liking his yodeling?
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy No I am pretty sure that in the Movie, he explains that he was mocked for wanting to use his yodeling to herd the cattle. Which is a thing btw, though typically used to herd the cows home, not on the trail. Thus why he is buying the land of the ranchers who refused to hire him. Its what caused the scene where the nephew says "maybe they just didn't like your singing". I am not sure how you missed that.
However, you have a point in his plan making too much sense. Because in the special editions of the DVD, there is a deleted scene where he instead of selling the cows, wants to use them as an army to storm the white house.
Thus becoming president.
Maggie is literally Roseanne: both in voice and personality. She’s basically a self-insert
So with the Disney unholy trinity fully completed, will there be any other movie trinity’s in the future?
Pixar has its own unholy trinity that i do want to get to as well at least.
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy And something tells me that out of the three of Pixar's weakest films you would choose to review, Cars 2 won't be one of them.
@@RockotarthepurplehatguyCan’t wait for a 5 hour long analysis video on the Good Dinosaur
Can you believe the people who wrote the songs for this movie also wrote the songs for Tangled??!! Alan Menken and Glenn Slater, what are you doing??!!
What you mean? The yodel song was awesome
WHAT?!?!? But.....but the songs in Tangled and the following TV show were GREAT! WTF happened here?
Also, the yodeling song was awful.
Fun fact: This video is longer than the Movie Home on the Ranch itself
Just finished the review, great stuff as always! You’re like the Anti GamingMagic13, your points have value to them, and you don’t rely on the same clips every 10 seconds.
I also didn’t know that Steve Buscemi’s character was actually your evil twin!
I do have a question though. You mentioned that only one song is sung by Alameda Slim, and the rest are all sung by an unseen source. However, the same also applies with the film Tarzan. I probably already know the answer, but how does Tarzan convey its messages through songs better than Home on the Range? Either way, keep up the fantastic work!
There is one joke which is not just good, but golden in this film. And it’s the gag where one of the goon’s head was blocking a ranch on the map. It was absurd, surprising, set up well and expands on the story.
Remember what I said on your Star Wars video about how it’s better to praise the stuff you like than to rant about the stuff you hate? Yeah, it’s time to quit watching Shaffrilas and Saberspark videos.
I only make rants once in a while, I agree that it is bad to be negative too much, so I only intend to make rants about 4 times a year at most.
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy I suppose that’s still far better than the average UA-cam movie critic
Pretty sure it was bad by design. They wanted this to flop, and also Brother Bear (they slashed six months from its development time.) They wanted the excuse to go to 3D CGI by whining, "But 2D cartoons aren't profitable any more!" One of the other excuses an executive gave was that someone had congratulated him on Ice Age, which wasn't a Disney film.,..as if half the population of the US didn't/doesn't believe that every single cartoon movie ever made is by Disney. When you see the message at the end of Meet the Robinsons, about how Disney always pursues the shiny new toy, oops, the newest innovations, remember that it was not an aspirational sentiment at the time it was made, it was an excuse of 'We know our CGI is crappy, but it's new and exciting so we're trashing our 2D department forever."
Is it me or did youtube update by having the number spinning like a casino game
It's not just you
I love the irony that this video is longer than Home on the range 😂 😂. And yes, I sat through it.
Very unique to have live reactions next to the arguments.
Also a very good movie.
Glad you enjoyed it, though I'm not sure if you are referring to the original movie or my "movie" (because the video is so long lol).
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguy I meant YOUR movie
The trilogy has been completed!
I was in elementary school when the Disney Renaissance began, and a senior in high school the year that it ended. All throughout those years I remember looking forward to finding out what the next big Disney film of the year was going to be. I appreciated the movies differently as an eight-year-old than I did as an eighteen-year-old, but it worked because they had a quality that appealed to a wide age range.
Then this one came out. When I saw the previews, my thought was "Well, it was nice while it lasted."
The worst thing about this movie is that Rosanne Barr voices the main character, because she's on par with Rob Schneider
I’m not an SJW but she was also the one who said horrible things on the internet which got her career ruined for good.
@@Moonlight-qo5hwno offense but I think most people know about that stuff, but thanks for the information anyway.
Well… I guess you could say… Bart’s on par.
I meant Barr*
Heyy don't diss Aristocats! It was a sweet little movie about cats, it works, the animation is soft, it's a childhood classic. Even rewatching it, it wasn't faulty of anything horrible. Well, except for the Chinese-stereotype cat, but it was a cute cat at least.
Dinosaur is bad not because of how bad a movie it is... It's bad because it was an attempt to rival jurassic park and pushed away beastly kingdom... The legacy this movie had transcended the screen and now, decades later, is only FINALLY being recognized as a product of its time to make way with something better
very true!
I honestly don't care if the movie is bad or not. I loved watching it with my mom as a kid and it just gives me such a nostalgic feeling everytime.
That's great to hear, I wish I could enjoy it that much.
Okay but this movie dubbed to Latinoamerica Spanish is really good
Okay but the joke about him yelling at the guy for sitting in the exact same spot on the couch is pretty funny
This movie makes me crave hamburgers.
I love your background music choices. So many hits in all your videos.
I agree with what you said about Chicken Little. He's actually a good character. I even cheered for him during the baseball scene because he actually proved everyone wrong that he's not a complete joke.
I'd rather watch a bad movie than a boring one, hell I'm kinda the opposite where I actually like watching bad movies more than I enjoy watching good movies
Wait, no Chicken Little? I think it's worse than the Aristocats
Yeah this movie is a sad fizzle out for Disney’s 2D, I’m glad for many reasons it wasn’t but it’s still a sad closing lineup
I personally really enjoy this movie. It's very cute, the songs are super catchy, and I enjoy its more unique Chuck Jones/Tex Avery style than other Disney films.
Regardless of what you think of the rest of the movie though, I think we can all agree that Alameda Slim is AMAZING! 'Cause he yodels... and yodelin' is an ART!!!! 🤣
The to bulls are bad copies of the 2 moose from the original Brother Bear
The triplets not recognizing their uncle when he's in disguise is the "joke" from the Emperors New School (Kronk is so stupid that he can't recognize Yzma when she's in disguise)
I think the reason why the bulls each got a cow is... It can't be a Disney ending if the "princesses" don't get their "princes" and their "happily ever after"
Not as stupid as the live-action remakes or some of the direct-to-video sequels.
So Disney forgot that they already made the Wesley/Weasely joke when they made Frozen?
Yep.
Someone said they made the 3 main characters essemtially incessantly argue because it have to do with one of the directors/writers/producers being misogynistic & thinking 3 female leads couldn't work together naturally.
Personally, I do think Chicken Little is worse than Ralph Breaks the Internet, and really stupid movie, too. But I do agree this movie is most stupid movie ever, this shows everything wrong about making a story and a actually movie (or series). Also the reason why Chicken Little is worse than Home on the Range was because with the animation honestly and the horrible father character/the worst cartoon father character ever.
So, I found you through your Cedric video, and for some reason this has made it so hearing your voice immediately made my brain go "ah, its Cedric talking"
Anyway another amazing video, keep em up!
Literally, the villain song of Alameda Slim is the only saving grace for this movie. It's magnificent
6:36 they get slobbered on by a coyote, not a wolf.
Cows are actually susceptible to calls. They used to do this in the past in Sweden, it's called "kulning". When the cows were scattered around the field or somewhere far away and you wanted to call them in you were basically yodelling at them and they recognized the call and came running over
I have to say, personally being boring (despite the attempts to not be boring) is like the 3rd worst thing for a movie to be, the 2nd would be offensive or hateful while trying to justify why that offense or hate is justified, and the 1st worst thing for a movie to be is a collection of ads disguised as a movie. Which actually aligns with the types of movies on this list and the order of their watchablity.
You think being boring is better than being offensive? Wow, sometimes I need to be reminded how much I despise modern people. Thanks for the reminder!
Apparently in the original draft of the movie, Slim was stealing all of the cattle to amass a bovine army to storm the Whitehouse.
the problem with that is what stoping the people from shootign the cows as they didnt have any armor
TBH, the only good part about this film is the villain, Alameda Slim.
He was an actually fun antagonist and I wish he was in a way better movie.
Never forget, the undermining and fall of western 2D animation happened because those movies had something that 3D movies just didn't.
Good unions that didn't let the animators be exploited.
Same goes for a lot of the stuff in live action movies that are just done with CG nowadays.
Mr. Wesley should get his own movie that it could make 100x more better!
I’m surprised it wasn’t Frozen 2
Or both Frozen movies for that matter. 🤷♀
A better example of a wacky animated comedy starring talking animals is Madagascar, a movie that came out a year after this film. Madagascar is just as stylized and cartoonish as Home on the Range yet unlike the latter, Madagascar was legitimately funny and memorable with strong humor with good jokes, likable characters and while cartoonish in it's own right, is more substance over style by having a heart amidst it's wacky tone. And the relationship between the characters are a lot more palpable and healthy than any interaction between the animals in Home on the Range. Alex for example is a much better version of Maggie and Buck by making a self absorbed character front and center because unlike those two, Alex, while starting off selfish and egotistical, doesn't stay that way forever and actually grows and develops as a character. And despite Madagascar's Looney Tunes style esthetic, it's not over the top and chooses to rely more on character interaction more so than just slapstick. Maybe you should do an analysis on that film next and point out the differences of why that film works as a comedy while this one doesn't.
I love the fact the this video is even longer than the movie it's reviewing
Oh and what do ya know, Home on the Range came out the same as Shark Tale. Another animated movie that tried (and failed) to copy Shrek's formula! Go figure.
At least Atlantis and Treasure planet were good
I think Diva said it best in her Musical Hell review of this movie:
“You know how halfway through the production of Toy Story, they had to practically start over from scratch, because the creators realized that Woody was such an unlikeable character that he dragged the whole thing down? This is what would have happened if they hadn’t come to their senses!”
I haven’t seen this but I don’t think I ever will so I’ll just watch it
15:12 LOL 🤣 Dudeeee you always find like the best clips to fit into your reviews, I would totally be the guy tied up right by you agreeing 😂
This was actually the last straw for Disney 2D Animation considering the amazing track record it has in the library, and haven't developed the medium until The Princess and The Frog (2009) and Winnie The Pooh (2011) but that's just about it. 😑
I don't know how I got dealt the fascination with salvaging ideas, but I have one project where I could probably do what Home on the Range tried some justice called Canvas Prairie. To stick to the cribnotes of what I'm thinking, 1) the plot is not only going to need the fat trimmed but saved for a point in the story that would translate to a season finale or premiere (I intend Canvas Prairie to be a long running story with several chapters) that way all characters and home bases involved have had enough screentime for the audience to connect; 2) the conflict is something that would have to be tailored to the setting that way the stakes are properly scaled, characters losing their ranch during the 1930s with the Great Depression in effect and things like The Dust Bowl crippling agriculture to a threat spurred by those factors should be a very real possibility; 3) tying into the last one, if a villain is going to make things worse for the protagonists then it's going to be an instance of, again, setting factors that garner some audience understanding but ultimately not winning audience support because of how those not even affiliated got screwed over by basically a power trip. I've got more notes for what needs to be fixed to properly salvage Home on the Range in another form but I'm going to put that on the slow cooker a while longer.
This time I heard Toontown Donalds Dock theme
1:24:40 The only part of this remarkably in-depth analysis that I disagree with is where Rockotar argues that Home on the Range made people think that "CGI 3D animation is for everyone, but traditional, hand-drawn 2D animation is only for little kids." Wrong! In case you haven't watched the Oscars lately (because, let's be honest, why would you?), people these days seem to think that ALL animation is for little kids. In fact, if anything was true, it would be that 2D animation is being seen as something of a renaissance of hand-drawn artistry, while CGI is seen as a soulless corporate product. Otherwise, this was a very entertaining and thoughtful review--far more entertaining and thoughtful than the film itself! 😊