GANG HORSES AND THEIR MEANINGS | RED DEAD REDEMPTION 2
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- Today we explore the horses of the Van Der Linde gang members, on what they represent
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00:00 INTRO
01:18 DUTCH VAN DER LINDE | THE COUNT
01:54 ARTHUR MORGAN | TENNESSE WALKER
02:28 JOHN MARSTON | OLD BOY
02:53 HOSEA MATTHEWS | SILVER DOLLAR
03:24 BILL WILLIAMSON | BROWN JACK
03:55 MICAH BELL | BAYLOCK
04:25 CHARLES SMITH | TAIMA
04:59 SADIE ADLER | BOB
05:25 LENNY SUMMERS | MAGGIE
05:59 JAVIER ESQUELLA | BOAZ
06:28 JOSIAH TREWLANY | GWYDION
06:46 SEAN MACGUIRE | ENNIS
07:14 KAREN JONES | OLD BELLE
07:41 UNCLE | NELL II
07:56 KEIRAN DUFFY | BRANWEN
08:26 OUTRO - Ігри
I always thought Dutch's horse was white because Dutch takes death everywhere he goes. Y'know "Death came riding on a pale horse" and all that.
Excellent thought
Spoiler warning! I wouldn't be surprised if the devs thought about that. I aways thought of Dutch's horse like a Cadillac or Mercedes- Benz. The type of car drug dealers buy when they get rich. A two bit gangster living above his means, I like to imagine that Liviticus Corwall owns every type of horse except Dutch's, like Dutch is holding on to some tiny part of the rich lifestyle he so desperately wants. I think its also fitting that at the end Dutch abandoned his horse to flee into the mountains. Leaving behind his largest status symbol and companion to save his own skin.
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you are not wrong!
Also its named “The Count” as if it resembles his body count or something. Great observation, though.
Pale means green.
Everybody in the gang: **has cool names for their horses**
Sadie: *Bob.*
Beautiful name isn’t it
Tbf I did name my horse Timmy
Another thing about Micha’s horse Baylock.
While I myself haven’t played Red Dead one, apparently Micha’s horse bears a striking resemblance to ‘The Dark Horse’ that appears when you have the lowest possible honor, which once again is very fitting for a character such as Micha Bell.
Not only low honor, but the lowest honor. It's called 'The Dark Horse' and yes, the similarity to Baylock is very convenient :p
@@bavarianalex cool, updated my comment, though I forgot that means I sacrifice being hearted.
I honesty wish they did more cool stuff with honor in RDR2, changing cutscenes and dialogue is cool, but more gameplay changes would’ve been much more interesting in my opinion.
In my head canon, the dark horse is Baylock. Hence, all the cuts and scratches on the horse
Arthur’s first horse was actually a Hungarian half bred named Boadicea that was left in Blackwater
Is that why there is a black tobiano hungarian halfbred that picks up up from Van Horn in the middle of chapter 5? Did Arthur's first horse find him again?
@@melbrak271 saw in another comment section not on this video, that Boadicea has a reddish coat in the game files, so no it's probably not the same horse, maybe just a reference to it
Isn't Boadicea the name of a Fierce and Famous Scottish Woman Warrior of a time long ago. Isn't Arthur of Scottish decent?
@@mrnobody3161 not scottish, Iceni, a tribe which lived in modern day Norfolk, England
@@melbrak271 that was an american paint in van horn not hungarian halfbred
It’s also important to note that some of the horses represents some part of some character’s cultural background and identity. For example, Charles is half indigenous and half black, so giving him an Appaloosa is perfect. In real life, Appaloosas have a rich history of being bred and ridden by indigenous people, however the Nez Perce people are credited for creating the breed :)
Although today's Appaloosa's aren't true Appaloosa's because the whites slaughtered them.
I never knew this about the horses, I knew that each of the gang members horses were unique but I never imagined that the devs putted this much meaning into them
Same dude
Putted
Another thing to mention is that the Old Boy horse is extremely similar to the War Horse from rdr1, which for me was John’s first horse
@Banana Bandit you only got that horse if you bought the dlc
the war horse is black with a silver main and tail. johns horse old boy is a dark bay color with a silver tale and main. it's much larger than the war horse, old boy is a hungarian halfbred yet when you put another HA by it it looks massive
Don't forget Buel, our beloved.
A mirror of Arthur himself as said in the game. And it fits the game where almost every member has it's own breed too. Arthur and John both having 2 large, stubborn and brave horses.
I've got to disagree on that, and not just because I can't stand Buell as a horse. Buell is slow, spooky, and completely unreliable. He literally killed his previous owner because he was frightened, and he still bucks my Arthur off whenever he sees a wolf even at level 4 bonding, leaving him to fend for himself while Buell fucks off to the middle of nowhere with a flashing stamina bar.
It's basically the opposite of an honorable Arthur. He'd go to great lengths to defend those he's loyal to, and never shies from a conflict out of fear.
I wouldn't trust Buell in an open pasture on a nice sunny day; a leaf might blow by on the other side of the field and make him lose his fool head.
@@Nylak-Otter To me, Buell was always a great horse - at least when I had him as John. Wanted to keep Buell, so I never got him as Arthur.
literally never had any of those problems with buell. i used him over the mft when i got him and they were the same to me
@@bavarianalex you can keep him as arthur
@@justice_of_UA-cam but not when you move on to playing John,due to a certain thing happening to your horse that I refuse to spoil for those that haven’t gotten to the ending of Arthur’s journey.
Someone may have already said this but to add to Bill his horse is also a war horse which ties into Bill’s past in the military.
I found it funny that the leader of the gang has a tiny, barbie like horse. Tends to look a bit odd when the others around him has larger horses. BUT it suits Dutch because he don't need to "overcompensate" to make himself feel big. He already has such high thoughts of himself.
I think that Dutch chose The Count as his primary mount because it represents what he's always pretended to be; elegant, high society, expensive, rare, and reliable and trustworthy.
I don't think he's ever been a well-collected and altruistic leader. He just finally had his mask crack under pressure in the end of this game.
Also, totally agree on the appaloosa fit for Charles. I love that man. I had an appaloosa growing up named Arrapahoe that I trusted riding in dangerous mountainous environments full of predatory animals and treacherous slopes, and he was just a super reliable and steady fella.
I always felt the count showed off his narcissism
@@theoutsiderjess4869 he has no narcissism
Dutch went crazy though
@@justice_of_UA-cam Yeah, he "went crazy" because he was under pressure from all sides and had lost his moral compass and voice of reason, which was Hosea. He reverted to his true selfish, brutal and narcissistic nature and fooled himself into thinking that anyone who didn't agree with his methodology was a traitor.
He's always been like that, though. He thought he was the only one who could lead the gang to success, and started to lose control of himself when he failed them over and over and over. He's always "valued loyalty," or rather, he condemned anyone who dared to question him.
@@justice_of_UA-cam nice bait
Both Trelawny and Kieran’s horses are welsh names, ‘Gwydion’ is a hero in welsh mythology and ‘Branwen’ meaning blessed and fair 👍
I believe Gwydion also means magician in welsh.
Appaloosa is also a Native American horse breed. Another key part of Charles' character, his pride in his Native heritage. Something I can relate to.
I think they shouldve made a horse stable in mcfarlanes ranch that would contain old boy, the count, baylock and maybe brown jack or maggie cuz tumbleweed has silver dollar, boaz, ennis and trewlanys horse cant rememer the name
Old boy died
@@braydenweaver2842the same breed he means
You forgot to mention Sadie's second horse - Hera, a Dark Bay Roan Mustang that appeared in a few cutscenes in 1907. I think it's important to say this, after all, the name represents the Greek Goddess Hera, who seems to represent Sadie in both personality and character development as she is a different person after avenging her husband's death and overall I think the new horse breed, the Mustang that was changed from the Turkoman, also fits her, now that she's a bounty hunter after all mustangs are known to be wild and hardly tamable, which represents the fact that she's now a lone wolf, who simply does anything she can do to survive. John also comments that Hera looks "mean" which alludes to the fact that Sadie can come off as intimidating.
I didn't so much forgot, I said in the video I was just doing the original 1899 ones to keep it relatively spoiler free
@Maxwell she also still has bob
In the last mission she rides the Bronze Turk, so in the epilogue she doesn't really have a specific horse, as she said it herself: Some people buy ranches, I buy horses.
Baylock is also the "Dark" horse from RDR1which you get from having the least amount of honor. Really shows how micah has no honor
Baylock isn't the dark horse, their markings are different
@@kingsfoil5844 Well they do have most of the same markings and are the same breed. And baylocks rider had no honor. So I think it is.
ANOTHER thing about Baylock. His white face is called a bald face in the horsey realm. Like a bald face lie. Additionally, a more artistic perspective could be viewing the face as a front. Seemingly pure up front, but everything behind the face is dark.
That's interesting makes Baylock even more suited to him
Also Micah's horse looks a lot like the low honor horse in rdr1
My favorite horse for Arthur is the blood bay thoroughbred. Absolutely love the way it looks and how it handles.
How do you get it
@@str_q4362 You can tame it in the wild. Best farming spot is in the hills and plains west of emerald ranch. It's a beautiful horse.
@@str_q4362 have also had luck stealing one from bounty hunters and cops when they come after you. They're a good source to steal Appaloosas, Throughbreds, and Ardennes from
My favorite for Arthur besides Buell is the bay turkomen that you can steal from the braithwaithes, similar looking to the bay thoroughbred but better stats
fun fact about Micah's horse, the horse is the low honor default horse in rdr1
Honestly, Strauss should have had a specific horse. They mention that he leaves the camp often (since he has to so that he can do his loansharking) so it would make sense for him to have one of his own.
He doesn't seem like the kind of guy to ride a horse tho. He probably took a wagon
Did you know all the gang members horses actually having horseshoes? They're the only horses in the game that are having those! You can see for yourself using photomode whilst riding along with the gang in missions, and check under the hooves
Well spotted! I didn't notice this
Also carriage horses have them
@@KE_Equestrian I read somewhere also the horses you'll buy in the stables have them. Not checked that yet, since I've been playing Hogwarts lately
Honestly just a chance thing. Of course wild horses will never have shoes, but it seems to be a 50/50 chance that stolen horses do have them. I primarily steal horses and Ive had a lot of horses that do, then probably an equal amount that dont.
Absolutely Brill really loved this Phil!
As much as I hate Micah I love the name Baylock for a horse.
If Pearson rode I bet he would have had a shire,nice steady and very slow. They are definitely grass gobbling monsters lol,but I love em,gentle giants.
Thank you for the vid really enjoyed that much love as always x
You're welcome Kat, I thought you might enjoy this one x
Lol Micah is my favorite character and I think he has the most badass looking horse
I think the count represents the man he wanted to be seen as, a refined Hero that fights agaisnt Capitalist injustice, but like the Horse with money, he boughts that image with words and not actions
Also the tennesee walker is dappled black and white, the two colors representing the spectrum of honor. Quite fitting for Arthur.
Very cool video. I remember checking out all of the horses at Horseshoe Overlook on my first playthrough. It frustrated me that I couldn't ride any of them, especially The Count.
Thank K
only dutch rides The Count without gettin bucked
The one I wanted to ride was Baylock. He was gorgeous! I *LOVE* black horses!
@@AllisonChains64 you can ride Baylock, any when Michea is in jail
Edit: sorry *Micah
I understand (or Google says 😂) that Taima has a Native American origin meaning "peal of thunder"
There is an old song about the appaloosa horse that has the verse "thunder rolling in the mountains," coincidence?
Ennis is a place in Ireland and Ennis roughly means 'one choice' from Celtic origins. But Ennis is also the anglicized version from the Irish word inis which means island. Éire is the Irish word for Ireland. So either Sean named his horse after a town or he named it one choice technically.
I believe Ennis (Sean's Horse) is a Silver Tail Buckskin American Standardbred which is available in the epilogue at Tumbleweed stable.
I enjoyed this one mate! Great work
Actually, Arthur seemingly had a horse that was not shown in RDR2 but is located in the game files that someone ripped off from the PS4 version.
It's a redish brown Hungarian Half-bred with special stats where Health - 10, Stamina - 9, Speed - 7, Accel - 6 and the coat is called "Red Liver" whereas the horse's name is Boudecea, the name the Romans give to Boudica.
It fits the name as Boudica was a rebel to the Romans who was stuck in the old ways and was rebelling against the "new-age" Romans while also known to have ginger hair which in many other places just simply called as "red head". Same as Arthur's horse which is red, Arthur himself is living in an old system that reprises the new ways of life as he follows Dutch's views and thus he himself is fighting oppression of the new system with ways of the old west. Boudecea fits the name of his horse.
However, we don't see the horse. It might be due to last minute balancing issue that giving Arthur such a broken horse straight out of the gameplay would deny players to use other horses as they liked thus they removed it.
However if you wanna talk lore wise, we could say that Arthur's horse was lost in Blackwater seemingly due to being shot dead or in a state of panic, Arthur couldn't get his horse in time due to the constant gunfight that chased the gang out of town thus he grabbed whatever horse that was near to him and ran with it till they escaped Colter towards Valentines. However, I believe Boudecea died during the whole Blackwater Massacre thus he had no choice but to use a normal Tennesse Walker.
To me it always made sense that Dutch, Hosea and Arthur had the "elite" horses so Arabian, Turkoman and Missouri Fox trotter. I usually tame the Silver dapple pinto in Albert Masons mission
I always found the count to be a strange one. Not just because it's got "the" in its name but also from it's beautiful white coat and the fact it seems to only take Dutch
There is one exception though - in one of the last missions, Arthur jumps on The Count while Dutch is riding him. That is during the train heist.
I feel you’re meaning that Arthur mentioned once the that he tried to ride The Count and he bucked him off as soon as he tried or something. If so then yeah, that is a bit strange. But if not then well ofc you can't ride any of the gang horses besides Baylock once. The Count is such a beauty tho.
@@ThisIsJustARandomHandle You can ride Trelawnys horse once as well before you meet him in Saint Denis. Did it during my latest playthrough.
@@ThisIsJustARandomHandle that it is! Wouldn't mind riding that white beaut!but admittedly I'm more of a shire kind of guy. I got a soft spot for the bug horses
@@skywolfx76 yes...just yes!! I LOVE big horses too! I'm a sucker for tall and broad-chested horses! Some of my favs from the game have to be the Thoroughbred, Shire, Turkoman and Ardennes, they are just big and beautiful
for arthur you should have does Bodicea, he talks about this horse at the start of the game "this horse is good but it aint no bodicea thats for sure"
I'm pretty sure it was a hungarian halfbred
I know this is just a minor detail, but as an avid automobile historian, the fact you mentioned Oldsmobile, as in fact it was the first automobile made over there, put a big smile on my face :)
The Tennessee Walker although it’s a reasonable horse around the map you’ll find some great coloured ones
Saw you recommended in Fizhy's video, and I'm loving your channel; keep up the great work!
Thank you, and welcome! It's been a ball working with Fizhy, he's a helluva dude
I really like Baylock's white face, it almost looks like a skull. Fitting, for a horse with a rider like that
I'm still amazed that Uncles horse has the same name as me °-°
I wish they allowed you to truly modify your horse like height and all,crossbreed to get different breeds and and abilities.
That would be cool!
Interesting thoughts on the meanings. I've always thought Bill rode a Shire horse and not an Ardennes as it was bigger than Ardennes. However, I've always thought a perfect horse for Arthur was the silver coat Ardennes you were able to get from pre-ordering the game.
Very interesting video! Thank you for breaking down all the horse breeds for us and sharing your thoughts on why Rockstar chose each of them for the gang members!
Sure!
I’ve been switching between with the first horse, the Mahogany Bay Tennessee Walker I named Galm, but in the end I chose him for the final mission as Arthur as to put the chapter to an end. It’s really sad that I have to do it knowing we’re tied together by fate, but the rest of the horses haven’t seen what he’s been through.
I’m new to your channel but I definitely appreciate your content.
Welcome!
Very underrated Chanel keep up the work 👍
Thank you my friend
It’s also worth mentioning that Charles is Native American, and the Appaloosa horse has a long history with native American tribes and was said to be bred to what it is today by natives! Today, a breed of horse called the Nez Perce (named after the nez perce tribe) was created from breeding of Native American Appaloosa’s and gifted akhal-teke horses. This is because in the 19th century, the US government killed the selectively bred Appaloosa’s of the nez perce tribe
There is actually a really deep history with Appaloosa horses and Native Americans as well
Solid vid 👍
Thanks YTC
Great video nice intro
Glad you enjoyed 👍
Well Arthurs character and with that each playthrough is as different as the players are sooo it could be that this is also represented in the choice of horses. Some might chose the horse the game starts with, others might get the splashed white Paint or a chestnut Tennessee Walker.
Interesting insights. Thanks for putting this together!!
Sure thing Maurice. 8
Thanks for your useful video ❤
I'm glad it helped. You'll find a lot of RDR2 content on here
In my head canon Arthur’s horse is Buell despite how late you get him in the game
I wish Rockstar would add the long hair you see on Shires to the hair options in the stables😭
As a horse lover? I'm glad this video exists.
My Arthur rides the Black Coat American Standardbreed I named Bandit. As a low honor player that is pretty much self explanatory 😅
Love this video, however it feels like you made up some of the horses attributes like Nokotas being adaptable to fit the characters more.
I appreciate the feedback. The Nokita horse (in real life) are used for such things as fox hunting, dressage, and show jumping. They are trained specifically to understand their riders instructions more than other horses, who are taught only basic commands
Fun or sad fact is Uncle had horse in Epilogue named Nell IV that means Nell II and III died or he lost them
I named that Tennessee Walker O'Driscoll, since we killed a O'Driscoll right before we tamed it.
Did you know that: in the tumbleweed stables you can purchase Boaz, Silver dollar, Branwen and Ennis.
weird you didn’t mention how baylock is. the low honor horse from rdr1
Death rides a pale horse.
Baylock is also the same horse you get in RDR1 when reaching the lowest honor level i believe
Could you look into the various audio cues that play during the game? I have the feeling they are entirely random, but surely that can't be true. What does that haunting violin announce, for instance?
I can try, but I don't really half access to the audio files per say
arabian horses are also obviously the most expensive, reinforcing dutch's wealthy appearance
And also how Dutch pretends to be wealthy and sophisticated, when in truth he's just a ruthless outlaw, like how the Arabian is an elite breed, but other than its speed, it's actually a pretty shitty horse.
Is there any information on what happens to a gang members horses when that gang member dies
Taima is also a Native American word meaning “crash of thunder”
....this entire time i thought Tennessee Walker was the horses name....
Arthurs old horse, Boadicea that died during the massacre (theory) is Liver Chestnut Hungarian Halfbred, so you could've done something on her
its actually a bit of a coincidence, john and arthur both had hungarian halfbreds
Idk I feel like this list needs Uncle's epilogue horse, Nell IV and John's (starting) epilogue horse, Rachel. But that's just me.
I was trying to keep it relatively spoiler free
@@FilbeeGaming fair enough.
I’m pretty sure Brown Jack is a reference to Bill’s drinking habits
Well spotted
I always thought arthur should have the silver dappled pinto mft to represent the opposition of Micah
I think theres some conflict here, Kierans Tennessee walker is credited as fast and agile but weak, Arthurs is credited as durable and sturdy. Tennessee walkers are strong and durable but they certainly arent fast
I spent several real time evenings catching the white Arab up in the mountains, totally worth the effort. Like driving an Infernus in GTA.
Baylock the coolest.
I always collect horses but leave the white Arabian in the wild. It's too pretty to tame. On my current playthrough I let Arthur keep his first Horse and named it Nugget, he kept the black Shire from Hosea aswell, Shadowmere. Then I came across a beautiful white Nokota which I named Frost and then I hunted down the red Arabian, Lucifer😆 and then I keep secondary horses, mostly for storage during hunting. They're all named Sheldon...
For me I gave Arthur the striped Arabian and called her Boadicea II. In the epilogue i give John buell and believe him to be his horse in rdr1
I found the most beautiful buckskin Tennessee Walker and named him AnooseBlst3r
We all know Micah's horse should have been a big old Rat, like the Rattest must ride a Rat right
Baylock is the dark horse from RDR1
i can confirm this is true
Bob 🤣🤣🤣🤣 my real life horse is a American Quarterhorse and he's very stubborn and is kinda like Bob as well 😆 his name is Salty
Micah’s horse is the same as the low honor horse in rdr1
My horse is a black american standardbred and I named him Midnight.
I almost named my horse midnight too but I decided nyx.
The count 😍 I own a black Arabian online
I always name my horse Tahiti........or Mango.......
what chapter is sean on cause im on chapter two and i have not seen him around camp
He needs rescuing from Blackwater. The mission is unlocked after you meet Javier, Charles and Bill in Valentine
What about Epilogue horses??
Baylock is beautiful
I honestly thought the name "boaz" came from the book of ruth, because there was a character named "boaz"
Yes, he was listed as one of Jesus's ancestors in the Gospel of Matthew.
very nice video, but i personally think that arthur deserves another type of horse after hearing what u said about keiran, any suggestions? :3
67K 🤪
Boaz means strength not swiftness
I accidentally named my horse Tilly before realizing there was a girl named Tilly 💀
Oh dear...
The count isn't the only albino Arabian in the game
Technically he is. Albinism affects the eyes as well. The other white Arabian doesn't have blue eyes
@@emmahatcher9979 very well, I retract my statement
Ennis comes from the word Inis which is Irish for Island not Ireland
I said Island, but when spoken, Island and Ireland sound very similar
@@FilbeeGaming Oh sorry then I relistened and in the context I thought you said Ireland since you followed it up with "this is most likely to remind sean of his routes"
What do you think of beul
I unfortunately never rode it much
@@FilbeeGaming
I completed the missions with John to obtain Beul, because the old hunter was one of my favorite NPC encounters and Beul is very calm, and strong. Great for Hunting.
Does Reverand have a horse?
I don't think so, he never rides one
@@FilbeeGaming yea
In my first playthrough , he tried to steal Silver Dollar . Might have been a glitch .
No offence to Bill lovers (you’re a questionable person if you like him lol) but it wouldn’t really make sense if Bill rode a skinner horse (IM SORRY) im, not fat shaming or anything but bill has a bigger build so it makes sense if he had a big horse to come with him.
A horse being listed as “albino” when that doesn’t exist at all makes me just… nggggh 😵💫 not all animals can be albino and “white” doesn’t equal albino….