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FINALLY! Anytone Bluetooth REMOTE for Anytone DMR Ham Radios
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- Опубліковано 16 гру 2022
- Ever since the first Anytone Mobile DMR Radio was released with the Bluetooth option, but no removeable screen, we've been wanting a solution to mount this radio remotely in vehicles. FINALLY Anytone has released a Bluetooth Remote for all of their mobile radios, ones with and without Bluetooth, but it is different than what we expected. Is it worth it?
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The biggest fail about the 578 is it doesn't have a remote head on it, so I can't mount it in my vehicle...these new cars don't have squat for space in them...but this may encourage me to install my 578 in my car since it's got the remote screen on it. Pretty nifty! You just mentioned it in the video as I was typing this!
Even though it may be legal, I could see getting pulled over for mobile device usage if a cop sees you using this while driving. I much prefer an actual head separation.
Super cool in the nerdiest of ways! ANYTONE is emerging as a world leader in high tech radios!!! I of course already own the 578 mobile and the 878 handheld, I LOVE them both. This will be my next Anytone purchase! Thanks for the heads up.
Well said!
I just bought the radio at HamVention. But I wanted to learn more about the remote. Now, I’m gonna order the remote. Thanks Jason. Great seeing you at the show…as always!
Awesome! Great seeing you too
I just ordered my 578 and have been agonizing over where to mount it in my new RAM 1500. This solves that issue very nicely. I’ll be ordering it right away.
Awesome video. I was looking at the 578UV III for the DMR and the 220 (which are both pretty popular in my area) as an upgrade to my Baofeng tri-band HT that I'm currently using. Then I saw a link in a Google search for the BT-01, which led me to this video, which 100% solidified my plans to purchase the radio. Except I made the upgrade to the 578UV III Pro for the built-in bluetooth.
Bottom line for me is, I love working the repeaters in the area, but being chained to my desk all day long if I want to have a QSO with a friend or scan for traffic is just not really an option. So when I'm walking around the house with an HT, but even with an upgraded Diamond antenna on the HT, it's still not 100% that I'm going to hear the repeaters I want to hear, and even less of a chance they're going to hear me. But being able to bluetooth into a radio in my office/ham shack that's connected to my tri-band antenna on the roof? Are you kidding me? That's game changing!
The only thing that bothers me about this is 1) How the hell are we just now getting features like this? and 2) Why the hell aren't the major brands (Yaesu, Kenwood, Icom, etc.) innovating like this? Why are we just getting the same crap from 1965 with better LCD screens and more complicated menus? (Looking at you, Yaesu...)
Anywho. Enough of my ranting. Thanks for the awesome content. The 578UV III Pro arrives in the mail tomorrow and the BT-01 will be arriving sometime in the near future. Oh side-note, have you done any testing on the range of the hand unit to the radio? I have a couple of pairs of bluetooth headphones that I connect to my computer and they seem to work from anywhere on the 1st floor of my house so I'm hoping for similar results with this setup.
Ok enough rambling from me lol. 73! DE W3TOJ
Thanks for watching
I just ordered a ham Shack package pretty exited to get going with it
Ordered one from HRO this evening (in stock--12-17-2022). BTW, reviewing the set-up manual you can power up/down the radio from the BT-01.
Good to know
That’s is you can update the Bluetooth firmware which I’m not aware of anyone successfully doing so to date.
The jury is still out on this remote solution. Currently I don't need to remote the 578 but a remote head would have been preferable. Like the CS800D, Wouxun KG1000, and FT-891A.
I was skeptical myself, but so far this is working great. You can actually use this unit as a remote "head" also, since it has a k-connector on the side of it, you can attach a speaker mic and use it like a head. Much larger screen and better looking than the CS800D
@@HamRadio2 Yeah, just about need the CS-BFD to give the CS800D a friendlier UI.
@@wushock92 Agreed. I actually have one of those but never opened it. I need to find it and maybe actually make a video with it...
How about the conversion that’s floating around to remote the 578
I received my bt hand set yesterday and i love it
Awesome!
Now if I buy the 578 uv3 non Bluetooth model can I use this controller with the cable
This thing is DOPE. Kinda wish I'd skipped the 878uvii+ and just waited and bought 2 578's (1 for home, 1 for mobile) and this thing. Great videos. Thanks for pushing out this content. As a newly licensed ham, Ham Radio 2.0, HRCC, and a handful of others have been an invaluable resource to me figuring this all out. Anyway, great work. 73
KC3VBY Shaun
Yep
Why did they put a belt clip on this thing??? They should have added a mic post to hang it, or better yet a 1/4 20 socket to mount a RAM ball.
It isn't specifically made for a mobile setup. But I can see what you are saying
@@HamRadio2 I would venture to say that mobile use would be the most common use case.
I got mine the other day. It's actually a lot better than I thought it would be. I just wish it had a little more BT reach so I could sit in my living room and operate my radio in the next room over. The lathe and plaster walls just obliterate the BT signal. Being able to charge it via the cat cable from the radio is a nice touch.
Agreed on the range
I bought the BT01. I have not updated the radio or connected it yet. I like the fact that the display is larger than the one on the radio. I like the full control of the radio. Looking forward to setting it up. (May wait for warmer weather) I will let you know.
Very nice Jason! You're the man!
Thanks 👍
I just saw this in stock - thanks for reminding me to go buy it.
Hope you enjoy it!
Ha thanks for the Awesome video on the Bluetooth accessory to the 578.
So a quick question if I may, if you turn the Bluetooth display horizontal does the display change from vertical to horizontal?. Because I'm guessing you don't want to be looking sideways at a display.
I have been looking at & for a new Analogue / DMR radio for the shack but one that I could have alpha tags on, by the looks of it the 578 does alpha tags allowing you to name the channels?.
Thanks for your efforts Jason & maybe hear you on the air one day.
Rgs
Wayne
VK3ECS Melbourne Australia.
No the display doesn't rotate. I don't understand your comment about "looking at it sideways".
Yes you can name channels on the 578
I am waiting on Bridgecom to ship mine, (it is on backorder.) I was hoping there was a way to turn the base unit on and off using this device, but I don't think there is. Correct me if I am wrong.
Someone else asked that question too. No, I don't think there is, but I didn't research that much
It does remotely power on and off the base unit. Pretty neat!!!
@@safety86 good. Someone else mentioned that also, I'll have to try it out for myself
@@safety86 Great. The reason I purchased this to begin with was because I wanted to place my base unit in the trunk freeing up space in my car. Thanks.
Wow! I'm definitely getting one of these. I run the AT 578 and mounted it on my dash because where I originally mounted it down the passenger side foot area, I could not see the screen very well. This is going to be great!
Thanks for the review!
I'm not one to run and buy the latest greatest coolest gadget off the bat until I hear from several operators. I am leaning toward getting one at some point. 73, KC4JGC.
How does it perform on vhf/uhf I'm about to replace my FTM-500 with one maybe or should I keep the yaesu and use my anytone 878 for dmr
I know what i want for father's day! Thanks for the video! I own (3) Anytone 578s.
Good choice!
I've got one but haven't had a chance to fire it up yet. It has some possibilities for sure
I'm liking mine, so far
Motorola has something similar but I think it's not BT. The Mic looks pretty bulky plus it's another thing you have to charge. It give you options if you have a 578 though
I rather have a remote head unit with a bigger fonts.
Yes you can change the Bluetooth name of this device. I have 2 of them. Took about 1 hour per radio to update, the firmware, base band, APRS\Bluetooth, reload the codeplug and upload the latest copy of the digital contacts.
Sounds right. How do you change the BT name?
@@HamRadio2 Got to The Bluetooth menu on the radio. Select Option3 BT Names. This is the Bluetooth name. you can use the Delete key to backspace and then I believe it allows you to enter the name and select Confirm.
Me wants, I do subscribe, thank you. I just ordered my anytone HT radio based on your review,
578 will do DMR on 220 mhz works good
Yep
Wow. I was convinced that this was going to end up being vaporware. How about that? I am going to get it and an extra mobile to mount in my RV. It will be cool to have it around camp with 50 watts and an antenna on the roof. What a great option for a base station! Even better, use the K1 connector with a Mobilinkd TNC or DigiRig and do WInLink and Packet with the 578 easily!
That's a great idea
How does DTMF work from the remote device? A,B,C,D possible?? What is the delay from releasing a DTMF button, back to receive??
The device has a keypad on it so DTMF would work the same. I'm not sure of the delay, I'll have to test that.
i have also this bluetooth device with my anytone 578 it works great.
I'm liking mine
Been waiting since May for my 578 to come back from AnyTone following a Warranty Claim. Been told AnyTone is replacing my 578 with a New Unit under warranty, so hopefully if you got the BT-01, then maybe AnyTone is starting to move stock again and I might finally see my replacement 578 & My Pre-ordered BT-01 Bluetooth Mic shortly . . . in the New Year here in Australia. Looking forward to getting a 578 back into my truck, have missed it, and keen to see and make use of the Bluetooth Mic as a Remote Control Mic option in my truck. Can't wait to see them both.
Hope you get it soon!
@@HamRadio2Yep, it would make a nice X-mas Present . . . fingers crossed
I need a two way system for my wife and I, do I need an FRS system or ham radio for longer distance or what?
I know pretty much nothing. Any help would be great.
Ordering Now
I own a couple of Anytone triband AT-5888. While the display would be certainly be confusing, I wonder if it would mostly do basic functions if plugging this in instead of the AT-5888 control head. WB5NOE
Good question, not sure.
I can see rig being used at a public event station. Main unit, power, ant. at one place. But this gives you the option to move around. Or have the main unit, power, ant. near the table you are at, but not ON the table. Gives you and the team more table space!
Or be able to walk around your house ..
Just nerding out totally on this cool little gadget! Will it link to the handhelds too?? I know, I know but can it? :D
Someone asked that in the Premiere comments - and someone else answered no. I am going to try it though.
Alright so here is the question, have you updated the Bluetooth firmware using an android device. I have tried 3 different versions of android and they all fail, and then the new release on 12/22 the app is in Chinese ? Has anyone been successful at this and is so what combination did you use.
I have not. I want to try it but haven't got to it yet
Update to my comment the app is ok Chinese however the pdf shows what buttons to push, I went back and double checked this and still got the same thing everyone else is getting, the fail or stopped working from android.
Interesting Json. I wonder #HamRadio if you could use a BT wireless earpods so you don't have to use a mic? Though you may still need a PTT switch? Hummmm.....
Since the unit has a k-style connector on it, use an in-line earpiece with PTT and keep the BT device on your belt
The 578 radio itself can connect to BT earpods, and it comes with a BT PTT button as well, might solve that for you?
Is it possible to send/receive data messages with this unit or on the mobile radio.
8P6RC
That thing is enormous.
were you able to change the bluetooth name for the handheld?
I didn't try
Hey Jason, what happened to my reply? Was a link to more info on the BT01.
I have linked blocked to prevent spambots
@@HamRadio2 Ahh... understood.
I bought one from HRO...pricks sent me a used return with rub marks on the screen. Had to install new CPS and three updates to my 578...android one was a PITA. Several hours involved due to codeplug import/export and database stuff. Range is dismal. BT-01 uses BT ver 4 or 5 depending on where the spec is posted, so the range should be phenomenal. 578's BT spec is not listed--perhaps it's BT ver 1 which is 30 feet. Anyone found a bluetooth range extender that works with this??????
It is your favorited DMR radio but what is favorite mobile of all digital modes
My favorite digital mode or my favorite radio?
Digital mobile radio
If I plug this unit into the radio (not bluetooth) with the cable, will it charge the handheld unit too? Or do I still have to use the USB-C to charge it?
According to the manual: In Cable mode, the BT01 microphone is being charged when the
channel is free.
So in a vehicle I def. would want to use the cable.
Could someone please advise if the BT-01 mic will turn the 578 on & off? I've found some UA-cam videos that say it will and others that say it doesn't. This feature is important if the 578 is mounted under the seat or somewhere else hard to get to. Thanks.
With the right firmware, it will
@@HamRadio2 Thanks. I appreciate the quick response. 👍
DMR in Lansing, MI has become obsolete. Could never get anyone to try it, and the little group of 5 or 6 of us got bored eventually. I miss it, DMR got me back into radio, after a few friends became silent keys. This makes me want the 578, which I do not have. I have the 878, and love it. I've not seen the price, but a few have mentioned it's not cheap. Hey, if you wanna play, you've got to pay. 73 everybody, W8MAT.
This device works great with analog on the 578 too
Why not just use the 878 walkie talkie itself as a remote head Bluetooth. So you can have a 4 watt radio when you are out of range of the mobile. I think it can be done with a simple remote mode on or off in the radio to radio mode and or maybe crossmode relate like the old Kenwood. And use a command transmitt between the 2 radios so the 878 can be the remote to the mobile radio. I think that would be better.
Not really the same thing
Take it anywhere in rage of the bluetooth without having to be next to the raido. That is a good altunative to crossband repeating with an HT.
I have it ordered
Will this device power up and power down the rig which would be mounted in the trunk using it hard wired to the radio? Would I still be able to use an external speaker?
Yes
Interesting for sure, the price is a little painful though. I wonder if you can remove the belt clip on the back of it to mount it in a more mobile friendly way. 73 de w8tam
Yeah I wondered that too
@@HamRadio2 My belt clip accessory wasn't installed upon arrival.
You had it in your hands and you didn't see if the clip was removable??
How far does it go
I wish icomm had this too. I want one that works over wifi!
Just ordered mine. Does the mic have to be plugged into the 578 when using the BT remote?
Not sure, didn't try. But I doubt it.
No, if you are using BT, no cable needed.
There's no technical reason this couldn't have been an app for your phone.
Does this form factor have an advantage over an app?
@@obstacleman yeah you're right. But how many things are you using your phone for already?
If I'm running navigation on my phone, or another app for another device inside of my vehicle. I may not want to use the phone for everything at the same time
Ok, ditch the large head control, go with the remote. You can then put the body anywhere.
Or do what Lionel is doing with some current train set locomotives. An Android phone app!
There is mention in the firmware update instructions about programming these radios from your phone with bluetooth. I haven't tried it yet but I plan to learn it, then make a video
Woah!!! It’s real!
Yep!
I Would have much preferred having a remote control head with a larger Display. This remote in my opinion is too Big. Belt clip is useless since it only works about 25 or 30 ft. As ive heard. How about a wireless Control head that you can use with a dc power cord and rechargable built in battery
And the plug in mike and a spkr. Jack option. Im not enthused with it., Sorry.
Bluetooth isn't long range so I wouldn't expect it to work farther than that. I would have preferred a larger-screened head myself also, but I like this unit so far.
If it was just an android app and you linked the radio to a phone or tablet you could get that
My 578 is probably more behind in firmware than that lol
Lol I was surprised how far mine was
I'm not sure WHAT version I have. 😆
@@wushock92 its easy to find out. Boot the radio, go to Settings->Device info and scroll down
You can attach a speaker mic to this speaker mic!
Yep
I wish they came out with a basic Remote Speaker Mic (RSM) that is about half the cost. Not everyone needs a display and keypad.
You can pick those up in several places
@@HamRadio2 I've tried a couple random Chinese brand RSMs and the quality sucks. Audio quality is not up to par with the speaker on my AnyTone. Do you have any that you would recommend?
Yours must have come pre-programmed from BCS. Mine was not. there is ALOT of firmware uploads, and Android APK style files needed to make this thing work. BCS will do this for you for a fee; $60. But you'll need to ship your 578 and BT-01 to them. Otherwise, you can have it done when purchasing a 578 AND the BT-01 at the same time. Still an additional $60. I'm a new ham and was able to figure it out. All the necessary files are available in the latest CPS version from the BCS site. Bottom line, I love it; now that it is syncing properly. You really can do ANYTHING from this remote speaker. A few mods from the CPS customizing the 3 P-keys on the side, and you're good to go. I would recommend it. Good luck everyone. 73. KJ7USS...
Mine wasn't pre-programmed, I set it all up myself and you got to see most of that in the video. I did write my own codeplug for the radio though.
Maybe the two of you can help the rest of us? What equipment did you use to update the Bluetooth firmware, not the radio firmware the Bluetooth firmware. It requires an android device, so far I have tried three different versions of android and have been unsuccessful at update the Bluetooth firmware. I was able to update everything else. So if you were successful please share what you used.
@@ridiculous9730 No BT firmware update was required, I simply updated the firmware on the radio and the remote connected, once I turned on BT.
And no... mine did NOT come pre-programmed.
@@HamRadio2 mine did all of those things as well, the update comes into play for turning the radio on and off, and showing the BT menu in the cps.
@@HamRadio2 alright well I thought I would clarify a couple of things since the information surrounding this thing is ridiculous. I have the Bluetooth firmware ending in 0036. I do not have the newest version. Someone has used Android 5.0.1 with the files in the root directory to successfully upgrade the Bluetooth. However once you update the cps and radio firmware go into the cps and under options check Bluetooth and Bluetooth microphone. Then go into optional settings and on the bottom right turn on Bluetooth syncro, this is suppose to say RF shutdown but it doesn’t. This is what allows you to power on and off the radio from the Bluetooth remote. Now I was able to do everything with the older Bluetooth firmware. Hope this helps some people.
Can it charge off the ethernet?
I didn't try that, but I doubt it - that just plugs into the mic port on the radio, which isn't powered, I don't think.
@@HamRadio2 Pretty sure my hand mic has a backlight. If it does charge via the rj45, I bet it's slow.
@@de_w8tam yeah but is that backlight powered by the RJ45 port? Maybe... IDK. But doubtful it is enough juice to charge the BT device
@@HamRadio2 Power seems like it's going to be the biggest issue with this thing for me. I don't VHF/UHF all that often, and I can imagine it being dead every time I pick it up. If they actually implemented USB-C, it could charge quick, but I bet it's 1/2 amp 5v charging over a usb-c connection. It'd be valuable to know if it can charge over the ethernet connection, and also how much power it pulls over the USB-C port.
@@de_w8tam There's no point to powering it over Ethernet if you have it connected to a radio with BT. Whether or not the USB-C port is high-power, it will still easily charge from a powerport in a vehicle. I may do some testing of power with the USB-C port though.
I received mine a couple days ago. Its just a gimmick and worthless to me. You're better off just using a hand held radio. It barely worked 20 feet inside my house. Now if the Bluetooth worked a lot farther then maybe it would be useful.
Bluetooth is close range. Also this isn't like using an HT since it connects to your full-powered mobile radio with an outside antenna.
As I've said in other comments, it isn't for everyone and it is fine that you don't like it, but try to be honest with your feedback, at least.
@@HamRadio2 How was that dishonest? And I understand how it works too.
@@HamRadio2 what? You better agree with me or you are a complete liar. Maybe you should edit that, your word choice is odd.
are you aware of anyone having a video showing how to upgrade the BT firmware in the 578 so it will work with the BT01. I am hearing the only way it will work is by using
a Android cell phone wireless to the 578 and that has had problems. They came out with a new app for Android and someone has reported to me with 3 difference Android cell
phones it still didn't work. This method is certainly a gaff design
My BT firmware didn't need updating but I'm checking on the Android connection method
@@HamRadio2 I have the 578Viii PLUS (with aircraft) I can't get the app to work for updating the BT firmware on my 578. When using the app I connect
to my 578, In the app I select OTA then select the bin file and the program crashes. We need a video showing how to setup the new BT01 with a 578.
Using my Galaxy S7 Edge with 8.1 OS did not work using the base.apk however using my old Galaxy S7 Edge with OS 5.0 did work. My 578 Bluetooth firmware is now
at the latest version and when my BT01 comes in I should be good to go. I was told to drag the base.apk and the bin file into the root directory of the cell phone.
I tried that on my s7 Edge and it didn't work. But on the S4 it did.
Ok, why? I don't see any purpose since it's about the same size as the HT itself.
Did you see the mobile rig that I attached it to in the video?
al's mom: see.. this is what I'm takling about when u endorsing to the chinese factory..
alinco MD: ...
whatevertone: i chop² the antenna..and all the knobs..
Hey Anytone - how about just making a base microphone for the D578!!!!
👍🏼👍🏼
I would not buy anything from Bridgecom.... They sold me a used 220 radio and would not make good on it. 10 months later it died!
That surprises me, honestly. I've been dealing with them for years and they've always had good customer service.
Update that firmware otherwise you will have lots of weirdness. 😂
The instructions claim that it won't work prior to firmware 1.17
Definitely not a hands free Bluetooth device for mobile use.
No... not hands free. It is a remote that acts like the mic to any other mobile radio you might use.
They should have just came out with a remote mounted faceplate. What a mess.
Yes. Although this is more versatile, so I can see what they are trying to do...
I highly doubt it's legal to use while driving a car or truck even though there are exceptions I don't think this falls in hand free driving laws sense there a screen on it
We don't have those restrictions here
Pensez-s’y bien avant d’acheter ça,car tu resteras avec et une chinoiserie,des affaires pour vendre radios digital,sauf pour le fusion pas pareil 😆😆🇨🇦
Bridgecom is a ripoff… this thing is cool though
Explain that...
Duck or lose the jazz. Too much. I want to hear you, not a jazz trio.
Otherwise great video. That jazz is much louder perceptionally to some on certain speaker setups that emphasize highs. Distracting from the actual content. Especially to a musician.
Definitely think I want this thing and matching rig. Fought thru the music to listen to you on an Apple device that’s trying too hard to sound good with 2mm speakers and music. Lol. Sounds better in reference speakers on a PC but… not sitting there while doing other stuff. Haha. 😅
Cheers! Dump the jazz! Ha. Or duck it hard in post against your voice!
Depending on the BT range and how well it handles dropouts and errors - that thing could be nice for apartment dweller hams. Rig in the vehicle with power and low voltage protection and take the BT remote inside!
See how far away that thing works! 🎉
I may have missed it but did you say if it’s USB-C to charge it? Or proprietary or (ugh) mini USB?
The background music is way lower than my voice audio. I'm re-listening to it right now, barely heard in the background.
@@HamRadio2 really depends on the speakers. For a musician it’s like playing CW in the background. Adds to the N of SNR and detracts from your desired communication. I’m “copying” key changes in my head instead of listening to your content. Same as if you put someone calling CQ in CW and a CW ragchew in the background - if that makes sense. No worries. Just learned audio mixing from a blind guy and he always said “add nothing that lowers SNR unless the music or whatever emphasizes the message being sent”. Emotionally synchronized music like in movies was his example. Cheers! Time to head to a dinner with a ham buddy and a Christmas light tour! Would invite ya along and buy ya an adult beverage if you were closer!! Grin! 73 sir. Great content.
Would you mind re linking your code plug in the description thanks.
Ki5jrp
73
Very nice 😎👍💯
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