Anytone REVEALS New DMR Mobile Radio | AT-D578UVIII Plus Triband Ham Radio
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2021
- Anytone Reveals a new Triband Mobile DMR Radio, the AT-D578UVIII Plus - let's take a look at some of the features of this Mobile DMR Radio.
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I'll wait until Anytone releases a mobile DMR radio with bigger and detachable Screen. Thanks and 73!
Aloha Jason, what a great and brutally honest review. I currently own two Anytone mobile transceivers, the AT5888 UVII & the UVIII. I bought the UVIII because here in Honolulu, we have more active 220 machines than 440. The two main reasons I didn’t buy the 578 Pro was the extremely high price and the very disappointing 5 watts for 220 which you can now buy HT’s that do more than 5 watts 220 such as the Baofeng A58s that does 10 watts on VHF and 220 mhz. The only thing this 578 Pro had going for it really for me was the cool ass microphone, super super nice! 73’
It's probably not that easy to upgrade the memory because it probably micro inline soldered but by the time you need to upgrade the memory, there will be at least another version with more features and capabilities. Thanks for the excellent review.
All D578UV series models have the exact same amount of flash memory internally (2GB), and as of the latest firmwares for each iteration, they all now support 500,000 contacts. So, the III Plus $60 premium comes down to the 220 band (but with crippled max power), Air Band Rx, and Analog APRS Rx.
Good info. Want to upgrade to one of these might just wait a little longer
I have ordered the plus, primarily for the air band rx, and the ability to condense dmr/analog/2m and 70cm in one package. This and my HF Icom is-718 will cover all my needs, in my shack. Ordered for £337 including shipping and vat in the UK. Will do an unboxing video when it arrives. 73.
The new 578 III sounds on the surface like the 878 II. You can set the Analog APRS to transmit when you key up to transmit or unkey to receive. You can also set it up to transmit every X number of minutes. I have not had a lot of use of the Analog APRS until the last couple of weeks, when the local iGate came back online. The two main reasons I bought the 878 II was for the Analog APRS receive and the 500,000 contacts memory. I have seen some people on UA-cam turning on the 220 band, but they warn you that they may brick the radio if they do this.
Yep, would definitely love to know more about this one as I'm just about to jump on something up to around $US500 on a 2 & 70 mobile.
I like Anytone but this is lackluster. A much larger screen or a remote head is desperately needed in this.
@@kb9liq remote MIC? Those are out now, although Anytone doesn't make one, other brands do and they can Bluetooth to any radio which has BT. But you probably mean the remote faceplate. I wish they'd hurry up with that too
@@kb9liq Are they planning on doing a mic like the yellow one that appears in the VERO VR-N7500 ad copy?
Great video with detailed instructions. Unfortunately on my AT-D578UV I get to "Settings" and then "Radio Set" and then nothing in the video is on my radio. Unable to locate "Other Func". and further.
Cool cool
#ThNHR #TeamReplay
under SETTINGS, RADIO SET, OTHER FUNC there is "Weather Alarm" and "Weather Channel" Weather Channel has 10 choices. Can you explain what they are used for. Thanks
This has so many features, I wish it would receive more bands like Yaesu does.
Agreed
I have the 578 Pro. It will beacon analog APRS on one VFO while I use the other VFO for repeater work. I don't know if it will simultaneously transmit APRS while I"m talking on a repeater, however. According to Bridgecom, the Plus model adds aircraft receive and APRS receive in addition to the extended channels, talk groups and contact IDs. My Pro only transmits analog and digital APRS. Not bad for $60 in my mind. However, since I'm looking at adding the Woxun GMRS mobile (which also covers the aircraft band) to my mobil mix, I probably won't upgrade. I don't know yet how valuable APRS receive is yet. Great review as always.
Yeah my question was more about...is it worth the upgrade if you already have the PRO model? I also own the PRO model and I don't think I care to upgrade quite yet with just a few, small features that I list in this video
Is there an advantage in the 1.25 meter band? Besides no one/not many people (potentially) is/are using it.
I paid the extra because of the APRS, The 500K contacts for future but not a big deal, I can always just delete non-english countries from the list :) but what really drove me was they upgraded the ROM to 2GB so there is more room for software feature upgrades. That and the Bluetooth - I hope it works with FORD Sync - Now that would be worth the $60 and more.... I have an Alinco DR-MD500 which is virtually identical but no GPS, no Bluetooth, no APRS, and 300K contacts, I could not care less about the 220 band as no one here uses that band and I would only have one radio that supports it... Thanks for the videos...
My Anytone HTs Tx analog APRS regardless of what channel I'm on. However, scanning channels will not allow the auto Tx.
Thanks for this as R&L just told me it is a full 25 watts on 220 and i knew that sounded wrong..I'm going to wait for the AT-5888III as no one has it in stock now???
I wonder if they understood you meant this radio and not the AT-5888UVIII
The APRS receive function is the big upgrade on this. Currently the pro model will beacon/Tx in the background. It doesn't need to be tuned in on the screen. Not sure about APRS activity while transmitting.... I can say in general, it does not beacon as consistently as my FT3D...How come?
You can change the frequency of transmit time in the settings. APRS RX is the big upgrade, yes. But the previous model would TX so that you could beacon your position. I'm not sure how helpful RX will be, and I'm wondering if it will send messages over APRS
I would have paid $499 for this if, in addition to the the aprs and memory upgrade, if 220 had a higher power output, and a detachable face.
Yep
Ditto. Lack of a detachable head takes it off any list for me.
I agree
I thought my 578III Pro HAD APRS.. then after getting found out it did not.
Now this one comes out.. with no upgrade path? What a ripper..
@@ThomasWeeks In the programming settings, you can turn on the APRS in there. Now, that being said not sure if it just provides a tracker or decodes it as well. Supposedly 1.13 update provided decoding.
Anytone is becoming like the big three radio importers. Making rigs so complex that it is like going duck hunting with Patriot missles. And sending prices higher. DMR is more complex than analog FM. But have it to where George Jetsen can use it without crying JANE at the top of his lungs.
My friend! I am buying this mobile and returning the handheld Anytone that just came today. The latter is 5 watts, the former 50.... What's the point of the handheld? Well, I guess if you're going hiking or skiing,... ha
Jason .. I'm happy with my 220 CDM1550 and 220 HT1250 .. both converted to wide band FM .. and both converted to 255 channels and zones ..
25 watt mobile and 5 watt HT ..
I know it's not DMR but I'm not interested in DMR on 220 .. just a good quality radio for 220 ..
I have a repeater built out of 2 of those 1550s. Great rigs.
The PLUS has a Silver boarder around the LED screen, the image you showed is the Pro not Plus. I also have an AlincoDM500 , which is almost identical, uses the same style codeplug....and both of these radios reboot for some unknown reason intermittently.... This is a pain if you have scanning on or if you have preset channels on boot. The APRS does not auto beacon... It works OK but if you edit the APRS Type it ads a char so you have to edit it in the CSV then import it to get it correct. and it still does not auto beacon even though it is programmed to... My Yaesu works great, beacons on time, this one you need to key the mic to send APRS... Also the manual shows all models now support 500K contacts... Your question, NO Analog APRS will not work while driving and you need to Dial up the digipeater frequency and send the APRS - No Auto APRS beacon even if enabled and time set for say every 60 seconds...
Anytone’s new radios (including the new 878) are so similar to the older models. I am going to have a hard time upgrading either my 578 or my 878.
How do you like your 578?
I have looked at the official specs of the new 568 v2 plus and does not mention am receive apart from extra memory I cannot see the difference to 568 plus
So love my 878 I’m considering selling my Yaesu ftm500 I use as a base to get a 578uv3 with the BT01 controller what ya think?
Powerwerks sent me an email a few weeks ago saying they had a new mobile coming out
How strong is the vhf/uhf side of this radio
Given DMR repeaters can be configured to disallow certain talkgroups, or have static and/or scheduled talkgroups, I can understand wanting to use a hotspot instead of the local repeaters. Probably not a common problem, but all the same.
But yes, the screen size and limited power on 220 are still deal breakers. It's a dual-receive for Heaven's sake. If you won't add a remote head option, at least give me a large enough screen to run both sides of the radio.
In that case I'd contact the repeater owner and ask them to add the TG you want. Then you'd have less drops and better audio then using a hotspot on a 4G connection in a moving car.
@@HamRadio2 Quite true, and like I said, probably not a common problem. We all tend to be lazy. "Well, I don't want to look up the owner. Don't want to bother them either with my silly little TG request."
Just FYI, the changelog for firmware V1.13 (dated 2021-04-13) claims to upgrade the contact capacity on the Pro to 500,000 as well...
I'm thinking about getting this radio for my first mobile I have the HT 878
Great choice
Jason… Does this radio do cross band repeat from analog to digital? It would be great if I could bounce around the house on an FT-60, cross banding on the AnyTone to a DMR repeater or hotspot.
Yes.
Have one NIB since 2021, would really like to see a video or info on how to program analog channels manually. Have not been able to find any videos or info how to do this. Seems they all just jump into DMR and Digital ID programming. Is it even possible to even manually program with the keypad? In my area I only need a handful of analog channels. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
Yes you can program it manually. I'll look at making a video about it
Just got my 578 plus in today. Boy that is a tiny screen. Is there a add-on or mod to add on a larger screen?
Not yet
YES! Why no upgrade on Pro --> Plus?!?
I got my 578UVIIIPro bc I thought it could do APRS receive.. but after getting it then realized is was APRX TX only. In short, that sucks.. I would love to hear about an "upgrade kit" to upgrade my 578 Pro to a 578 Plus.. Otherwise I am left with no option but to sell my unused Pro for what I can get. and pay more to buy this new PLUS model. Or just ditch Anytone all together. So far.. no one at Bridgecom has been able to answer these basic rig upgrade question.
Hello Jason: Thanks for the great video, as usual! I've never used a DMR radio yet, and am interested. Would there be a way to port APRS information to APRS Droid, either over BlueTooth or direct wire?
Regards
8P6RC
For this radio, I'm not sure. It'd be interesting to try
As an owner of the AT-D578UVIII Pro, and a Mobilinkd TNC that I've used extensively, the answer is no. You cannot use the AT-D578UVIII Pro and APRSDroid. It's able to transmit either analog or digital APRS packets, but they only include your GPS location. It also transmits at the beginning or end of your PTT. It doesn't work how I want it to work, coming from years of using APRSDroid and Mobilinkd with my Yaesu FT-8800r radios, and now my Kenwood TK-790. I setup a second VHF antenna on my vehicle to dedicate it to APRS with a TK-790, even though I have the AT-D578UVIII Pro mounted in the front seat area. 73 de w8tam
I did recently see someone talking about using a signalink with an AT-D578UVIII Pro, so it might be possible to inject APRS that way into it. But not using the Anytone software on the radio. You'd have to do something external to the radio to make it work.
I own 4 Anytones, but until they offer a detachable face I can't buy this. People want clean stealth installs in their vehicle.
Agreed
Or have unforgiving partners that require a stealth install 😱 I wouldn’t know where to install this in my car without it getting in the way or without the display being blocked (e.g. glovebox or under the seat), so a detachable faceplate is a must.
I am in the market for a mobile 2M. But not sure about all the digital and aprs for my situation. I would rather have ssb as a feature...... WS7PB 73
I cannot find anyone that sells the at-58888III that does the 25 watts on 220 except R and L, any ideas?
Only R&L sells them
Is there by now any triband mobile dmr radio with higher watt output on 220 that you know of ( jan 22)
No
Wonder what the rational for the low power on 220 is. Is there an amp for each band? Has anyone put it on a spectrum analyzer?
It's because the transmitter circuitry in them was primarily designed for 144/440 use since those bands are an easy 3X harmonic. Also, 220 as an amateur freq band is only allowed in ITU Region 2 ( North and South America ) and Somalia. Since it can't be used in Asia ( where most radios are made ) nor in Europe, most multiband radios don't support transmitting on that band. Adding 220 to a multi-band radio requires either a new circuitry design to support it natively, or using existing 144/440 designs and tacking on 220 capabilities that may not work as well. I suspect the latter is the cheaper option most times, as even the tri-band Yaesu VX-6R had lower 220 xmit power.
Sadly 220 is a self-fulfilling death spiral prophecy. It's not used much because there are few radios available for it. The main radio manufactures complain when they do make models supporting 220, they don't sell well. The problem is the main 220 offerings for years were not very appealing ( either too expensive or too feature-limited ).
ah, thanks for the reply!
Will not be "upgrading" to this radio. I have the 578 UVIIIPro. I have tried the bluetooth connected to my vehicle and received terrible audio reports. The APRS functionality has not worked real great in my current model. Meh to the 500,000 contacts. And finally I really wish there was more power for 220! If the power level went up to 25 or 30 watts the money is spent. Thanks for the video Jason. 73. Kevin
I don't blame you. But from what I understand, the APRS (working) is the big new feature.
A lot of us don’t want to have to deal with silly, moronic repeater owners. I only have one DMR repeater in my area and I prefer to have control over what talkgroups I can visit and when I can visit them. Hotspots offer total freedom as oppose to repeaters. Great video, thanks.
I'm a repeater owner so don't lump all of us into one group. The hotspot audio quality is simply inferior to a real repeater. Hotspots have their place but they're not a replacement for a repeater. The easiest solution is to put up your own repeater that you control. Then your issues disappear - except for the issue with other people telling you how you should run the repeater that you paid for.
Can this radio send and/or receive on GMRS frequencies?
If you put it into Part 90 mode, yes
What model is your fav still?
The new Plus model is the only one in production anymore, so that one is pretty much top of the list.
@@HamRadio2I picked up the HT variant. It’s my first radio as I just passed my technician exam. I serve as IT support for a local EmComm team. I heard that I can send my code plug to this radio as well. I like the idea but I’m not sure if that convenience is worth it. We mostly use winlink. I am mostly a portable ops person. Would you recommend this radio? If not what would you recommend?
I am trying to build a "go box" for an AnyTone AT-D578UVIII PRO. I intend to use two 12V 10AH LiFePO4 batteries wired in parallel so as to get 12V 20AH. However, the specifications for the radio are: Operating voltage = 13.8V DC = +/-15%. Power Supply Current Requirement (min) = 15 amps. The transceiver's current rating is 15 Amps with a 15 Amp fuse and the supplied DC power cable is 20 Amps and from what I can ascertain, a 20 Amp fuse (which really doesn't make any sense to me). Am I correct in assuming that the 12V 20AH battery setup I am contemplating will actually provide 20 amps of current or is this a misreading of AmpHrs? I tried calculating amps based on watts and voltage but my results do not make sense in light of the demands of the radio. Can you possibly clarify for this true "amateur?"
If someone would come up with a ham only version (no cell) of a RF Finder type for around $500, ot would fly off the shelves.
Can it be Bricked, like Motorola
Probably. But not as easily b
Does anyone make a DMR mobile Radio that has GMRS frequencies as well as HAM.? Transmit and receive as well?
Some of the Part 90 Certified rigs will do that. I'm not sure how legal it is though
@@HamRadio2
Thanks Bud
No remote head, no Anytone mobile! There's no excuse for Anytone not offering a BT remote head unit....
I like to add hundreds of static top groups to my hotspot and then turn on Digimon now you can listen to anyone on any of those static talk groups as if it’s scanning them all and you can choose which one to engage in. With many repeaters you can’t do this. So perhaps that can explain why to you people do this.
That doesn't work
@@HamRadio2 I’m doing it right now so it does work
So the cheaper $299 version would work great for a base
Yes
@@HamRadio2 awesome
I do not love my AT-D578UVIII Pro. Doesn't seem like the new model fixes any of the shortcomings of the previous model. 73 de w8tam
What shortcomings are you referring to?
@@HamRadio2 No remote head. A heavily restricted number of channels in a scan group. Near worthless APRS integration. It can't even act as a KISS TNC over bluetooth or usb cable.
Very poor CPS which fails to store entries sometimes, the scan group setup is awful with having to assign it both in the scan list AND in each individual channel.
~5w on 220mhz is sad too. I haven't yet checked to see how clean a signal it has, but I'm guessing it's not very clean on 220mhz.
USB, but no connectivity through it other than programming.
It's probably OK if you commute and only have a few dozen repeaters in it. Since I travel all over the state of Michigan (and elseware) it's really shown it's shortcomings about programming to me.
For $400... I hoped for better value in it.
I haven't decided to sell it, but.. .I haven't been drawn to use it much either.
I guess if you need to cross repeat FM onto DMR it's a great setup. I was pretty sure I was buying the hottest thing out there, but it's really disappointing. 73 de w8tam
@@de_w8tam thanks for the info. Do you have another analog and DMR mobile radio you would recommend over this one?
@@tradedate Not really... I haven't been able to find something that works better. I may stick with the Anytone even with the issues.
Sounds like a lot of money for not much more in features.
And Anytone/Bridgecom is having some announcement or podcast about its products way too often. It is nerve racking. And makes the product look infantile.
Bridgecom doesn't make the radio, they just sell it.
Well, how to say ? - Your review is very disappointing, as it becomes quite clear, that you didn't spent a lot of time with the radio... For example is the speaker in the microphone highly appreaciated, as you can set it up to the 2nd receiver only and hear 2 signals at the same time from different speakers... Also a lot of other examples, where you obviously don't know at all, what you're talking about... What a pitty for the ham operator community...
Considering that this video was released prior to the radio being available - AND the fact that this isn't titled, and was never advertised as, a review - I think the disappointing part comes along when you try to make the video into something that it isn't.
Might as well have blamed me for not showing off the new Tesla Cyber Truck in this video, since... well it isn't titled or mentioned, but apparently that doesn't matter at all.
If anything, this is overpriced!!
Not worth the money,on my side
No thanks. Not worth the extra $60
Not worth the money
I will NEVER buy another Radio from BridgeCom! I bought one radio a while back and tried several times to get someone to call or contact me with an issue I was having...Worst customer service EVER!
I can't say I agree. I've had the exact opposite experience.
@@HamRadio2 DMR requires a user to be somewhat a Technical person. Without my Technical knowledge, I would have struggled to figure how to configure the DMR unit I have and expect to have information handfed to me from tech support
One of the main reasons I make videos.