Maths Without Maths

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @simonclements2124
    @simonclements2124 3 роки тому +11

    Struggling to listen purely on account of this chap's inability to pronounce 'Maths' properly; whatever the opposite of ASMR is, that's what your attempt at an utterly simple words induces in me.

    • @Goldenbaba430
      @Goldenbaba430 3 роки тому +5

      Myaths

    • @ecocentrik
      @ecocentrik 3 роки тому +2

      I think it's hilarious.🤣

    • @fantombouquet
      @fantombouquet 2 роки тому +4

      an utterly simple words

    • @simonclements2124
      @simonclements2124 2 роки тому +6

      @@fantombouquet Yep, the irony of my mistake isn't lost, but I made it and I'm leaving it here for justified ridicule.

    • @TheNewNumberTw0
      @TheNewNumberTw0 2 роки тому +1

      MAFFS

  • @Hatchinatore
    @Hatchinatore 3 роки тому +6

    Rampage plus the a*b+c module is almost exactly maths

  • @Bavinckovic
    @Bavinckovic 2 роки тому +1

    I highly reccomend the ADDAC 506 VC Stochastic Function Generator

  • @mathiasnielsen5882
    @mathiasnielsen5882 4 роки тому +6

    The greatest contender(s) for a Maths would in my humble opinion be a combination of the Cosmotronic Delta-V (rev. 2) and the Xaoc Devices Samara mark II, which combined is the same amount of HP (2x 10 HP) but with more (but also slightly different) functions, albeit at a higher cost (about €460 compared Maths’ €270):
    Delta-V:
    2x slew limiters / AD (cycling) envelopes w lin-log-exp control over rise and fall / EOC outputs / VCAs with sum output (!!)
    Samara II:
    Basically a 4-channel mixer with 2 inputs per channel (one normal and one inverted), 2x +/- offset for channel 1 and 3 for attenuversion, individual outs as well as submixes, and then the grand finale of having 5 different modes for the two function outputs A & B, which features min/max logic, sample and hold, clamping, scanning (can be used as a VC switch too)
    Combine these two and you have in my opinion an insane amount of options in the same amount of space and which covers more ground.
    However, there as mentioned in the video... the immediacy and design from make noise is just brilliant. Everyone needs a Maths. If u have a small setup tho, those two modules can cover hell of a lot of ground in 20 HP!

    • @jodo985
      @jodo985 2 роки тому +1

      Food for thought. I’m thinking about the Delta V, mostly for the smaller form factor. Not sure how much I’d miss the attenuvertors though.

  • @voltijuice8576
    @voltijuice8576 Рік тому

    Doing this all in Serge, whether through CGS, Random Source, or whatever: combine slopes with a "processor" for attenuverting and mixing, and "peak & trough" for min/max.

  • @studio48nl
    @studio48nl 4 роки тому +3

    Cosmotronic Delta-V . It has also two VCA's build in.

  • @oiartsun
    @oiartsun 4 роки тому +7

    I should have seen this video earlier, because I was on the hunt for content like it. Thank you for breaking it all down. Fortunately, my own research led me to several of these alternatives, and I ended up with a Random Source / Serge Dual Universal Slope Generator and I can attest that it is phenomenal. I even have considered buying a second one or the CGS Quad Slope, which - at 32HP, assuming you can dedicate a block of space for it - is pretty efficient if you look at it as 4 x 8HP of Serge slope generators.
    For me, I avoid Maths because I strongly dislike the design; even replacing the hideous Make Noise panels with Grayscale ones like you have done, the layout seems counterproductive (though I admit that is just prejudice as I've never laid hands on one). The layout of the DUSG clicks with me, as does that of the Rampage (which I've played with virtually in VCV Rack) and the Double Andore (being a fan of Industrial Music Electronics).

  • @robertsyrett1992
    @robertsyrett1992 5 років тому +9

    Maths, it's what's for dinner.

  • @GeorgeLocke
    @GeorgeLocke 3 роки тому +3

    3x MIA is a _6_ channel mixer :)

  • @jonaseggen2230
    @jonaseggen2230 5 років тому +6

    Joranalogue Contour 1 as an alternative to WMD SSF Mini Slew

  • @oiartsun
    @oiartsun 4 роки тому +7

    It looks like there's a new contender now, too. Intellijel Quadrax with its expander Qx.

  • @unsoundmethodology
    @unsoundmethodology 2 роки тому

    Fellow UA-camr Voxmachina recently released an open-source function/slew generator he calls Sigma, which is a pretty nice design; it's an all through-hole build, and you can send his gerber files straight to a PCB fabricator. I've built a couple of them (partly to have both channels and partly because the fabs won't make fewer than 5), and those plus a homebrew dual attenuverter/mixer cover most of what Maths does.

  • @s-u-m-a-i-r
    @s-u-m-a-i-r 2 місяці тому

    you can easily convert rampage in maths in vcv... with few lines of code.

  • @moretrio
    @moretrio Місяць тому

    After watching this video I went to the doctor. He told me "Math is the best."

  • @George-sm3bw
    @George-sm3bw 4 роки тому +13

    Frap Tools Fallistri! :) Definitely a Maths competitor (usurper?)

    • @R3fuge
      @R3fuge 3 роки тому

      Too bad it's never in stock. I have my eyes on the Fallistri

    • @cardboardmusic
      @cardboardmusic 3 роки тому

      Yes, I've been looking at that too - not because I'm for or against Maths, just curious to use something else.
      BTW, a lot of people seem to recommend MI's Stages. I messed around with it in VCV Rack, and indeed it has a lot of possibilities, which on the face of it sort of cover Maths.

    • @PspiralifeTutorials
      @PspiralifeTutorials 2 місяці тому

      @@cardboardmusic The cool thing about Falistri is that when you change the slope from expo/lin/log it maintains the same pitch/time. One reason I would get falistri over maths. Also it has a 4QM.

  • @kiros75
    @kiros75 4 роки тому

    Apart from Samara (expensive, large) which has been already suggested what other small modules would be candidates for companion? kinks, MIA 3X maybe?

  • @Natemasterflex
    @Natemasterflex 5 років тому +2

    The most obvious one you didn’t have on the list I would think would be the 4MS PEG, I guess that just a instead of Maths thing. Great video!

    • @Hermbot
      @Hermbot  5 років тому +2

      Ah yes, good call!

    • @eothdl
      @eothdl 5 років тому +1

      Thinking the same thing. Just added a PEG as an alternative to Maths in my system.

  • @PandaPotPies
    @PandaPotPies 4 роки тому +4

    Some guy told me a Rampage + 3xMIA is like maths on crack

    • @Presstones
      @Presstones 4 роки тому

      I have a Rampage and Intellijel quad VCA, they work extremely well together.

    • @justanotheryoutubechannel3102
      @justanotheryoutubechannel3102 Рік тому

      my imaginary rig would have a TON of mixers... 2 moog CP3s, a CP3+ (4ch) with multiples, a tiptop miso & a summing mixer, a blinds, an intellijel joystick and an 8 channel VC8 plus other VCAs with a pair of contour 1s and a rampage too. the ONLY thing missing would be whatever those logic things are. otherwise, it looks like I have more maths and better maths. (plus a pair of tokyo gates, an LxD & a pair or apertures for LPG sloping & 4x CEMvelopes) you can never have too many VCAs or mixers, right? as to envelope following, I'm blown away by the sputnik modular "graphic EQ" where each band can be an envelope generator.

  • @kiros75
    @kiros75 4 роки тому

    I am talking about Comsotronic Delta-V but my post keeps getting truncated!!!

  • @sonomute
    @sonomute 4 роки тому +1

    it feels like that second part, where these modules are actually being patched to recreate Maths, is missing...;)

  • @hdjsos
    @hdjsos 3 роки тому

    I plan on getting a tattoo of the Maths module (2012 red lightning bolts) on my lower abdomen before the end of the year. It was my gateway into Eurorack and I love it, but my ADHD prevents me from grasping it’s functions.

    • @monkeyplusplus
      @monkeyplusplus Рік тому

      Welllllllll did you get it?? If so, that's pretty awesome 🤘

  • @TROGULAR10000
    @TROGULAR10000 Рік тому

    Another reason you might not want it is if you don't like the goofy and confusing interface...

  • @corticallarvae
    @corticallarvae 2 роки тому +1

    Schlappi -boundry is in many ways better brother. The bounding ball input, creates me logic and interact with the circuit. It’s 3way cycling input and can be interrupted by triggers or gates. It’s an improvement upon the serge style function generator.

  • @mpingo91
    @mpingo91 5 років тому +1

    Are the attenuverters the only thing which makes it different from the Befaco Rampage?

    • @Hermbot
      @Hermbot  5 років тому +2

      The attenuverters and mixer section are the biggest differences, including the ability to generate voltage offsets.

  • @TheNimasan
    @TheNimasan 3 роки тому

    cv trinity is a real contender to maths....great module cv trinity that is!!!

  • @richieAnimation
    @richieAnimation 3 роки тому +4

    Amazing but this needs a 2021 update! @hermbot

  • @NK-ib1zh
    @NK-ib1zh Місяць тому

    Are you the energy vampire?

  • @eothdl
    @eothdl 5 років тому

    Great rundown.

  • @TheNewNumberTw0
    @TheNewNumberTw0 2 роки тому

    I love Maths but I hate the layout. I sort of feel that way about most of Make Noise's stuff. Incredible modules but my dumb brain doesn't work with them.

  • @FemiFleming
    @FemiFleming 4 роки тому +1

    Mobenthey Swoop as well!

  • @voltijuice8576
    @voltijuice8576 Рік тому

    Along with DUSG, another Maths ancestor is the Buchla 281 quad function generator. It's been available as a DIY project since before Maths existed, IIRC it might have been Toppobrillo's first offering. For Eurorack people often build single or double instead of quad.

  • @gelatinous6915
    @gelatinous6915 2 роки тому +1

    Maths pisses me off tbh, like two function generators and some logic should not cost $300 and take up that much space

  • @kiros75
    @kiros75 4 роки тому

    My post was truncated.

  • @polymodular
    @polymodular 4 роки тому

    Great video

  • @corticallarvae
    @corticallarvae 2 роки тому

    In fairness I came after 2019

  • @kiros75
    @kiros75 4 роки тому

    I see that

  • @nononononononono379
    @nononononononono379 2 роки тому

    Falistri aswel