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My bets on who the young queen that'll overthrow Cersei is Arianne Martell and Aegon "Young Griff" technically is a younger brother but Jaime arriving in KL only to be stuck in The Red Keep and besieged kills Cersei to prevent her from blowing up KL makes more sense.
If HBO was smart, they would hire Alt Shift X to do post-show discussions. And not restricted to Game of Thrones. The video on Raised by Wolves was great.
May run into similar issues Amazon had when ASX did The Expanse explanation videos in that few people watched the videos on their channel. ASX, would it have been possible at the time to put out a 30 second video on your channel that explained you made a new video and linked to the Amazon Prime Video UK video?
This could reopen an old Avenue in marketing. I remember a couple years ago game devs or movie studios would contract UA-camrs and other influencers to make informative posts about their stories lore. Veritasium did one for Hunger Games: Mockingjay where he pretended to be a district four scientist but also actually taught science. They could do the same things with channels that are lore master's like ASX and I'd watch that any day over some of the boring stuff they're putting out as an afterthought.
@platonik filofOz You're right. Children are born as blank slates. Think of a computer with no data on file. Then you slowly fill it up, except unlike a computer you can't just delete shit. That's why it's so easy for children to learn instruments, languages, etc at early age but it's damn near impossible for a 30+ year old to get those same things unless as you said, they're willing to learn and dedicate themselves.
@@EL-ISS Not actually true. Children only have an advantage when learning languages, etc. because they _have tons of free time_ and _aren't afraid of looking foolish._ An adult with both of those will out-learn a child every time because they understand what it is they're learning and just have more experience in learning things.
@@lyreparadox what you mentioned is definitely part of it. But synapses in a child's mind are much easier to form because their minds are more elastic. Look up synaptic memory transfer on Google scholar there's plenty of articles that delve into why children have a much easier time along side other factors like you've mentioned.
You forgot to mention HOW Ser Glendon Ball ( [edit] or rather Ser Glendon FLOWERS, assuming that Ser Quentyn even was his father) won the trial by battle; Dunk told him to use a *tourney* lance, which was longer than the *war* lance that Daemon used and thus would reach it's target quicker. That was a trick Dunk had learned from prince Baelor in his own trial way back in his first book, The Hegde Knight. So Dunk might not be to bright, but he learns from experience...
It might also play to the poetry of the scene: a dragon falls when the tourney lance was last used in a battle for life and death; a dragon rises when the same blunted instrument is used in a similar battle. Also shows Dunk's tendency towards mercy, I think.
To even exchange the tourney lances you were supplied with for the tourney to a proper war lance just for the trial, when it clearly isn't fought to the death anyhow... seems needlessly bloodthirsty, when you're not even out for vengeance. Plus, even if fought to the death, unseating your opponent will leave them quite vulnerable to be slain afterwards, if that were necessary.
I just realized, when you mentioned that Bloodraven is heavily inspired by odin; Bloodraven "combined" himself with a tree to gain full sight of the Old Gods and Odin "pinned" himself to Yggdrasil with his spear and bled for 7 days to gain the power of magic. The similarity is just crazy
If there's anything I learned about stories and literature, its that there's always a character that ends up either being Odin or based on him in some way. I call it the "Oops, All Odin Theory"
@@mattshannon3526 I mean he is able to change his appearance and he is also know to be a trickster, it's almost in character for him to appear where you expect him the least :D
Tolkien was also heavily inspired by Odinnic myths when he made the character of Gandalf, particularly the ones about Odin traveling around and visiting people's houses disguised as an old man in a grey cloak.
There's also the whole "Odin is a pagan god"/Brynden Rivers uses the ways of The Old Gods. I say "uses" rather than "follows" because Brynden clearly borrows magical tricks used by Mel, a priestess of the monotheistic Red God religion. I'd be unsurprised by the Three-eyed Crow showcasing knowledge and ability in the sorceries of other faiths, too. There's that whole "Bran wasn't the first kid Brynden summoned his way" thing with Euron Greyjoy, and Euron's ended up with his own multi-classing faith magic system going on while he tries at becoming a living god (which is what the Singers seem to treat Brynden as being). I forget who's supposed to off Odin come Ragnarok but, like, we have giants both Literal and figurative running about Westeros if need be AND mythic prophecy wolves besides! If [Wun-Wun?], The Mountain, The Hound, or Brienne aren't free to be Literal Giants, there's Literally Anyone Associated With Braavos such as the Faceless Men, mercenaries, the Iron Bank... and there's Littlefinger or, more probably, Sansa, through disguise or seizure of the dude's sigil and criminal empire (before she retakes House Stark's direwolf head or she embroiders herself a new, personal sigil without any giants).
@@tatigan1389 Well, that was the most obvious relation between the 3rd Dunk & Egg book and ASoIaF, you just need to count which year was it in (211 AC) - fits perfectly
He needs a kid named Finger who will say "Walduh" and all 6 million of his children and grandchildren turn up instantly. This would really complete the books I think.
One of the things that I love about the ASoIaF stories/books, is how there is always something else going on behind it all; there are layers of stories, secrets and mysteries stacked on top of eachother. This is impossible to translate to a tv show.
I love the possible connections between the plots like Dunk having romance with The Old Nun(she wasn't that old then) and by that he can be ancestor to Hodor:)
@callmecatalyst Jeez dude there’s no need to get so angry. TWOW will definitely come out in the next few years, GRRM has said he’s done so much work on it over lockdown. Frankly I’d rather get a good book later than a shitty one earlier.
This story is honestly so hype. It includes all the best elements of ASOIAF: politics, scheming, prophecy, magic, heroism and Bloodraven. Great video, I wish there was more stuff to cover. Maybe Fire and Blood?
exactly, that's why I love the dunk and egg tales so much.. they condense everything I love of the main series in a single, super entertaining, fun to read book. I wish we can at least get the story at winterfell and also the one where they go to Essos..
I think I've decided that Bloodraven is my favorite historical character in the ASOIAF universe. Even excluding the whole Three-Eyed Crow thing, even if you treat that as a separate character, Bloodraven is great. He has the ruthless, cutthroat political sense of Tywin and Stannis, he's got magical powers like Bran, he's a bastard who fights for the good of the realm like Jon, he's a spymaster like Varys, he's got the Targaryen connection, he's motivated by love, family and duty, like Ned, and he has deep flaws related to his paranoia and prejudice, not unlike his cousin, Aerys II, The Mad King. He's like a microcosm for all the best and most interesting traits that make characters on ASOIAF so interesting and fun.
And he is a son of Ice and Fire who turned into leader of the Night's Watch, just like Jon and after he's resurrected, Jon will maybe look like BloodRaven because of his ability of warging into Ghost!
Yes he is very nice and good person who loves common people so much he does nothing to protect them in plague, what a man! He killed his ugly traitor brother, what a hero! He feeds Bran paste made from Brans friend Jojen, what a Masterchef!
It just occured to me that I'm surprisingly more interested in seeing the continuation of the Dunk and Egg stories than I am in the main ASOIF series. Maybe I'm attracted to the comparatively smaller scale nature of the stories, maybe the fact that so many of these stories have been hinted at a history in the main series and supplemental material, or maybe I just don't like ice zombies. Either way I hope Martin has the chance to finish telling these characters stories.
It's just a much more streamlined story, with a set endpoint (Egg becomes King or Summerhall), making it so much easier to enjoy the journey, rather than wondering about the end
Other then seeing what happens with euron in the books ide say yea. They slaughtered him in the show, wanna see him perform a crazy ritual or something in the books
Dunk and Egg’s escapades are my favorite A Song of Ice and Fire side stories. They’re so well written and well paced. Super intriguing, great characters, action. All around fun.
Yo, mate! Ser Maynard and Lord Bloodraven use the same phrase "a nest of adders"! that's uber specific! Also, George R. R. Martin is so witty, he must have known MORE phrases to have one repeated twice in the same tale, right?
The comic adaptions for them are amazingly good. I could imagine panels of the comic used in a slide show as the audio book played to be the peek experience.
If Bloodraven was impersonating Maynard Plumm, maybe Shiera Seastar also disguising as Bloodraven and ruling in his stead? They were the power couple of Westeros back then.
I like the idea that maynard is bloodraven in disguise and that bloodraven is taking his job of impersonating a hedge knight and spying at the wedding as an opportunity to have some fun drinking with the guys and make sexsiest jokes It really adds to his character in my opinion: hes not just this mysterious scary looking sorcerer creep, hes also a guy who was probably treated as a freak and outcast his whole life for being a bastard and albino and probably had a very lonely life which he ia trying to make up for now
"Dunk is oblivious to the flirting." lmao He's actually pretty adorable. Thank you for helping condense the book's material. I always find I can enjoy the details when they are laid out in formats like yours.
I did not catch it the first time myself. I thought he was fascinated by Dunk because of him dreaming of him on the Kingsguard, not unlike Daeron's fear of him the first time they meet.
"The Sellsword" will probably be when Dunc and Egg travels to Essos because GRRM did also mention that they would make a stop there. They might even encounter the Golden Company and Bittersteel which would be pretty cool considering Bittersteel might not even realized he had a Targaryen under his nose the whole time.
@@spearshake4771 Or there could be POVs of Dunk disguised inside the GC and Egg preparing the Targaryen armies with Maekar, BloodRaven and Aerion Brightflame on Westeros!
In the section on parallels between Dunk and Brienne, you missed two which are closely linked. The names of their squires have similar meanings - an egg and a pod are both containers within which you usually find an embryonic life form, either an animal or a plant respectively - and both Egg and Pod transform into massively more confident people over the course of the books, fulfilling the potential their names imply.
One thing not mentioned in this video that I hadn't caught in earlier readings, is that Bloodraven totally threatens to kidnap young Aegon due to conflict between Bloodraven and Aegon's father Maekar, and there's a lot of subtle verbal underplay between the two of them about what would happen if Bloodraven tried to do such a power play. Basically, Bloodraven concedes that it's not worth the risk.
I enjoyed when Dunk tells Ball to use a tourney lance because it is 4 feet longer than a war lance, just like Baelor Breakspear told Dunk in the first novella. Great throwback that shows Dunk is always learning.
Brynden Rivers/Blood Raven is such an interesting character. I love this type of characters which are despised by the many for their appearance or their alleged malfeasance even though they are serving the greater good. Brendyn Rivers is highly intelligent, competent and cunning and use all sorts of means and knowledge for the good of the realm. I'd love to see/read more of him. Thanks Alt Shift X for yet another great analysis :)
He is the best character in ASOIAF,the most interesting. He is a bastard who has come into power,a very daunting sight as hes described as an albino with red eyes and a red winestain birthmark,a sorcerer who practices dark magic,he is the lover of the most beautiful woman who ever existed,he is literally a son of ice and fire,he becomes both kings hand and lord commander,he is ruthless and intelligent,and also the three eyed raven
"Gorghan of Old Ghis once wrote that a prophecy is like a treacherous woman. She takes your member in her mouth, and you moan with the pleasure of it and think, how sweet, how fine, how good this is... and then her teeth snap shut and your moans turn to screams. That is the nature of prophecy, said Gorghan. Prophecy will bite your prick off every time." - Marwyn the Mage
And then Marwyn travelled straight to Daenerys, a prophetic character, and crossed the sea, who are invested with ironborn who follow some lovecratian maniac that wants to end the world. Marwyn really is a „do as I say, not as I do“ kinda guy lol.
Your the only one of the channels I subed for their GoT content years ago I still watch 2 years after the season we do not speak of. Keep up your good work mate :)
@@coldhands2802 Wasn't there a Rebellion and the whole incest conspirancy? That plus the other Southern Kingdoms being annoyed at the Lannisters having too much influence.
Sometimes I pick up a new series and think “huh, this is pretty good. Maybe comparable in quality to ASOIAF” then I come back to the series and realize just nothing compares to the depth of ASOIAF, truly a modern classic
Since I read ASOIAF a couple of years ago, I stopped reading books. I compare every new book to The Song and they're never even close in quality. So, basically, ASOIAF ruined books for me.
I love so much that you gave a shoutout to Radio Westeros! They're among the most informative ASoIaF podcasts I've ever had the pleasure of listening to.
it’s not crazy. many people think that because he keeps announcing he’s writing other stories or scripts for tv. he’s probably written the whole main story but is having trouble connecting the dozens of intricate plot lines and conspiracy’s going on. he’s essentially written himself into a corner.
There's no way we're getting ADOS. We'll probably get TWOW within the next year... two years... five years... who tf knows, but I think we'll get it. But ADOS? Nah, no way he'll be able to finish that.
3:13 "admiring how large Dunk is, saying he would love to cross swords with him..." wait... "AND WANTS TO TRY HIS LANCE ON HIM" waaaait a minute... "but Dunk is oblivious to the flirting" WAIT, nooo way hahahhaha WHAT I never realised that too kkkkk omg
I've truly come to love Martin's use of prophecies being misinterpreted. So often in fantasy they're so cut and dry, but in the Westeros stories, one can cause so much harm by personal interpretation of dreams and prophecies. Martin is a former Catholic and Catholic theologians actually warn against committing wrongs based on personal revelations. One theologian I met said one should just live their life as best as possible and if the revelation is part of God's plan, it will just happen naturally. Yet in Martin's stories, we see the consequences of when peoples try to force their revelations to be made reality. It reminds me of how Dunk says he doesn't know what the morrow brings, only that he can live his life as best as possible
That quote from the japanese philosopher really inspired me in the middle, so I'll leave you with a quote from a wise investment strategist, "There's always money in the banana stand," Very good video, love your work!
@@Brandonhayhew oh wow didn’t even know about that. I knew there were graphic novels for dunk and egg just not for asoiaf. Would you recommend it? I’ve already read the books 🤷♂️
Always wondered, knowing George's penchant for naming characters after real world influences, if Uthor "the Snail" with his unique sigil was named in honour of the Silver Snail - a legendary comic book shop in Toronto.
Poor Daemon Blackfyre the 2nd good guy who couldn't live up to his father's legacy, but who could? And loyal Gormon Peake willing to support and believe in his King.
Of the comparisons between Dunc and Brienne: brienne is also seen at renlys tournament using a shield that has the same symbol as Dunc, a tree with a star
Thanks for pointing out the Jacobite parallels to the Blackfyre rebellions! I had a couple of distant ancestors who were exiled after the real-world uprisings, so that historical chapter holds a little extra interest for me.
So first off I wanted to say I adore your videos. Your voice is so soothing, yet powerful enough to grasp my attention. Your videos are also edited wonderfully. Nothing overly showy, but not utterly simple in the slightest. Top notch. I was wondering if you're ever planning on delving in the the cosmere at all? The books seem mostly up your alley, and I'd love to hear your opinions and predictions about hidden meanings and upcoming events in the books.
when you revealed that maynard is quite literally bloodraven, I never caught that when finishing the book lmao and now I seem to like bloodraven even more. what an interesting guy, thx for the explanation!
I prefer them, too. For me, it's just a matter of taste. The main series is so massive with an incredible amount of moving parts. That isn't a criticism. I can acknowledge the objective quality and brilliance of ASOIAF. I simply enjoy reading "smaller" stories with a more focused cast more.
I agree, however I couldn’t like Dunk and Egg as much if it wasn’t for the main series. It’s everything that’s great about ASoIaF in a nice concise package. However, it’s how it connects to and expands on the main series that elevates it above, in my opinion.
The scene between Bloodraven and Dunk at the end always kind of reminded of those bits at the end of Terry Pratchett's watch novels in the Discworld series where the Patrician talks to Vimes about everything that happened and what the consequences of it all will be. Bloodraven may as well have said "Do not let me detain you" when he dismissed the two.
I just finished reading the Mystery Knight, and am kicking myself for not recognizing Maynard Plumm. I knew there was something suspicious when Dunk mentioned his odd features, but didn't put it together. Thanks Alt!
I never knew just how much parallel there is between Dunk and Brienne's stories. The offspring of characters echoing their ancestors actions is quite poetic
Alt+Shift+X -- you make the best videos and breakdowns of books and shows I've ever seen. The amount of research and details you put into your videos really shows; with every video you put out. I'm so happy that I found your channel long ago, and hope you keep going for many more years!
Brown Dragon LOL...On other point I was just imagining situation where "John" hires Dunk for his retinue. How long would it take Dunk to realise he wants even more than just swordfights :D We surely would get a Dunk the Lunk moment when he finally realizes.
I was hoping you mentioned the inn by the God's Eye shore. Where all of the wedding's attendees crossed the lake to reach Butterwell's castle. I have a theory, that it is the same inn found by Arya and Yoren's group of recruits, before they are attacked by Ser Amory Lorch, in the book "A Clash of Kings".
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My bets on who the young queen that'll overthrow Cersei is Arianne Martell and Aegon "Young Griff" technically is a younger brother but Jaime arriving in KL only to be stuck in The Red Keep and besieged kills Cersei to prevent her from blowing up KL makes more sense.
I read they dropped House Of The Dragons and are only producing Dunk n Egg and that story about the children of the forest.
@@javidseyadahmed6917 The Children of The Forest series was called Blood Moon and it was about The Long Night.
Please make more ASOIAF related videos
Are you Q Tetra X?
Maester wearing Egg's old hat is a very important detail.
I think it has a relation with the three eyed raven or the night king
I think it's adorable
it's the direct cause of the tragedy of summerhall
Spoiler alert:
It foreshadows the death of The Night King, at the hands of Wolverine Stark
explain pls dont get it? :/
If HBO was smart, they would hire Alt Shift X to do post-show discussions. And not restricted to Game of Thrones. The video on Raised by Wolves was great.
May run into similar issues Amazon had when ASX did The Expanse explanation videos in that few people watched the videos on their channel.
ASX, would it have been possible at the time to put out a 30 second video on your channel that explained you made a new video and linked to the Amazon Prime Video UK video?
Seriously! It’s insane how good some of these UA-cam channels are. You’d expect them to all be hired ASAP to do some work for the show runners.
This could reopen an old Avenue in marketing.
I remember a couple years ago game devs or movie studios would contract UA-camrs and other influencers to make informative posts about their stories lore.
Veritasium did one for Hunger Games: Mockingjay where he pretended to be a district four scientist but also actually taught science.
They could do the same things with channels that are lore master's like ASX and I'd watch that any day over some of the boring stuff they're putting out as an afterthought.
Agreed on both accounts!
Videos on other series like Warrior and Lovecraft Country would be cool too.
Mewtwo is my favorite philosopher of the Edo period.
More like Heisei era
#Mewtwo
Idk why but I really laught a lot at that joke
I thought he was from Kanto period.
"Koffing!" - Koffing, Meiji restoration era philosopher.
Bloodraven: Treason is no less vile because the traitor proves a craven.
also Bloodraven: lord butterbutt lmao
Eyyyyyy, nice to see you here, angry boy!
Aren't you the pisstake man
i was commanded, not begged, to like this comment
Guys, I think it’s Internet Historian.
Oh hey Glidus
Mewtwo- Japan's greatest philosopher
The circumstance of one’s birth are irrelevant
@platonik filofOz You're right.
Children are born as blank slates. Think of a computer with no data on file. Then you slowly fill it up, except unlike a computer you can't just delete shit.
That's why it's so easy for children to learn instruments, languages, etc at early age but it's damn near impossible for a 30+ year old to get those same things unless as you said, they're willing to learn and dedicate themselves.
@@EL-ISS Not actually true. Children only have an advantage when learning languages, etc. because they _have tons of free time_ and _aren't afraid of looking foolish._ An adult with both of those will out-learn a child every time because they understand what it is they're learning and just have more experience in learning things.
@@lyreparadox what you mentioned is definitely part of it. But synapses in a child's mind are much easier to form because their minds are more elastic.
Look up synaptic memory transfer on Google scholar there's plenty of articles that delve into why children have a much easier time along side other factors like you've mentioned.
Yea
You forgot to mention HOW Ser Glendon Ball ( [edit] or rather Ser Glendon FLOWERS, assuming that Ser Quentyn even was his father) won the trial by battle;
Dunk told him to use a *tourney* lance, which was longer than the *war* lance that Daemon used and thus would reach it's target quicker.
That was a trick Dunk had learned from prince Baelor in his own trial way back in his first book, The Hegde Knight. So Dunk might not be to bright, but he learns from experience...
"I'm a slow learner, that's true. But I learn." ... show!Sansa
It might also play to the poetry of the scene: a dragon falls when the tourney lance was last used in a battle for life and death; a dragon rises when the same blunted instrument is used in a similar battle.
Also shows Dunk's tendency towards mercy, I think.
Oh thats such a good detail!
Fight smart, not hard
To even exchange the tourney lances you were supplied with for the tourney to a proper war lance just for the trial, when it clearly isn't fought to the death anyhow... seems needlessly bloodthirsty, when you're not even out for vengeance. Plus, even if fought to the death, unseating your opponent will leave them quite vulnerable to be slain afterwards, if that were necessary.
I just realized, when you mentioned that Bloodraven is heavily inspired by odin; Bloodraven "combined" himself with a tree to gain full sight of the Old Gods and Odin "pinned" himself to Yggdrasil with his spear and bled for 7 days to gain the power of magic. The similarity is just crazy
If there's anything I learned about stories and literature, its that there's always a character that ends up either being Odin or based on him in some way.
I call it the "Oops, All Odin Theory"
@@mattshannon3526 I mean he is able to change his appearance and he is also know to be a trickster, it's almost in character for him to appear where you expect him the least :D
Tolkien was also heavily inspired by Odinnic myths when he made the character of Gandalf, particularly the ones about Odin traveling around and visiting people's houses disguised as an old man in a grey cloak.
There's also the whole "Odin is a pagan god"/Brynden Rivers uses the ways of The Old Gods.
I say "uses" rather than "follows" because Brynden clearly borrows magical tricks used by Mel, a priestess of the monotheistic Red God religion. I'd be unsurprised by the Three-eyed Crow showcasing knowledge and ability in the sorceries of other faiths, too. There's that whole "Bran wasn't the first kid Brynden summoned his way" thing with Euron Greyjoy, and Euron's ended up with his own multi-classing faith magic system going on while he tries at becoming a living god (which is what the Singers seem to treat Brynden as being).
I forget who's supposed to off Odin come Ragnarok but, like, we have giants both Literal and figurative running about Westeros if need be AND mythic prophecy wolves besides! If [Wun-Wun?], The Mountain, The Hound, or Brienne aren't free to be Literal Giants, there's Literally Anyone Associated With Braavos such as the Faceless Men, mercenaries, the Iron Bank... and there's Littlefinger or, more probably, Sansa, through disguise or seizure of the dude's sigil and criminal empire (before she retakes House Stark's direwolf head or she embroiders herself a new, personal sigil without any giants).
.....
Walder Frey: Ruining other peoples weddings for 90 years!
Holy shit, I did not clock that the annoying Frey child was Walder Frey when I read the book.
It's weird seeing him having use of his legs lol
@@tatigan1389 He should have been tossed down a well Sparta style and we’d have saved ourselves a helluva lot of trouble.
@@tatigan1389 Well, that was the most obvious relation between the 3rd Dunk & Egg book and ASoIaF, you just need to count which year was it in (211 AC) - fits perfectly
He needs a kid named Finger who will say "Walduh" and all 6 million of his children and grandchildren turn up instantly. This would really complete the books I think.
LOL 😆
“One more word, and I will rip your tongue out by its roots!”
“You lie. That’s two words.”
What a line
I don’t get it
@@SapphireSolstice67 After 'you', Dunk said 'lie' and he wasn't seized and had his tongue removed by the end of that sentence.
Yeah. Dunk is supposed to be stupid but he has extremely quick and good wit.
@@elonif4125 It must be tough writing a "not that smart" character when you're as smart as George.
@@elonif4125 Warrior intellect activates when there is nothing but contempt for death
“Brienne’s story echoes Dunk’s story”
... KING PODRICK
Podrick the unlikely would be an unstatement
After all, who has a better story than Podrick
Someone who walks into a brothel with a honeycomb and a jackass... :P
Podrick would have been such a better king...
Pod the Rod, girthier than a castle wall.
One of the things that I love about the ASoIaF stories/books, is how there is always something else going on behind it all; there are layers of stories, secrets and mysteries stacked on top of eachother.
This is impossible to translate to a tv show.
I love the possible connections between the plots like Dunk having romance with The Old Nun(she wasn't that old then) and by that he can be ancestor to Hodor:)
@@michal22011 Also the romance between Dunk (Brienne's ancestor) and Rohanne Webber (Jaime's great-grandmother)
S1-4 of GOT proved it is possible, under writers who actually give a shit.
@callmecatalyst While the end of S6 is definitely very well made, I wouldn’t say it redeems a pretty nonsensical season.
@callmecatalyst Jeez dude there’s no need to get so angry. TWOW will definitely come out in the next few years, GRRM has said he’s done so much work on it over lockdown. Frankly I’d rather get a good book later than a shitty one earlier.
This story is honestly so hype. It includes all the best elements of ASOIAF: politics, scheming, prophecy, magic, heroism and Bloodraven. Great video, I wish there was more stuff to cover. Maybe Fire and Blood?
exactly, that's why I love the dunk and egg tales so much.. they condense everything I love of the main series in a single, super entertaining, fun to read book. I wish we can at least get the story at winterfell and also the one where they go to Essos..
And tits! Jokes about tits
"How do you do, fellow hedge knights?" has me laughing too much at work.
I know, right? If you're going to pretend to be a hedge knight, try to not be so obvious :)
"Viserys Plumm? Yes... Yes! Of course. A distant relative..."
The artist for this novel really made Bloodraven look like a vampire
Thats how he's described in the book
@@JasperForge I know he's an albino and quite pale but I didn't expect him to look THAT grey and pale
It looks very dated.
Targaryen armor would fit any bloodknight or vampire
Hahahsagh
Man, your voice brings back so many memories
Yup many years have passed. My first was R+L= J theory but im not sure
Back when the show was good?
@@Ithurtssobad yeah man
I think I've decided that Bloodraven is my favorite historical character in the ASOIAF universe. Even excluding the whole Three-Eyed Crow thing, even if you treat that as a separate character, Bloodraven is great. He has the ruthless, cutthroat political sense of Tywin and Stannis, he's got magical powers like Bran, he's a bastard who fights for the good of the realm like Jon, he's a spymaster like Varys, he's got the Targaryen connection, he's motivated by love, family and duty, like Ned, and he has deep flaws related to his paranoia and prejudice, not unlike his cousin, Aerys II, The Mad King.
He's like a microcosm for all the best and most interesting traits that make characters on ASOIAF so interesting and fun.
And he is a son of Ice and Fire who turned into leader of the Night's Watch, just like Jon and after he's resurrected, Jon will maybe look like BloodRaven because of his ability of warging into Ghost!
Aerys the 2nd isnt his cousin. Thats Aerys the first
And weirwood enchanted arrows he wields
@@Daniel-ll2cl And being a cool uncle of sorts to Egg and seeing greatness in Dunk, despite his ruthlessness.
Yes he is very nice and good person who loves common people so much he does nothing to protect them in plague, what a man! He killed his ugly traitor brother, what a hero! He feeds Bran paste made from Brans friend Jojen, what a Masterchef!
It just occured to me that I'm surprisingly more interested in seeing the continuation of the Dunk and Egg stories than I am in the main ASOIF series. Maybe I'm attracted to the comparatively smaller scale nature of the stories, maybe the fact that so many of these stories have been hinted at a history in the main series and supplemental material, or maybe I just don't like ice zombies. Either way I hope Martin has the chance to finish telling these characters stories.
Same. The main series will never be finished so I'd rather just get more Dunk and Egg stories instead.
It's just a much more streamlined story, with a set endpoint (Egg becomes King or Summerhall), making it so much easier to enjoy the journey, rather than wondering about the end
Other then seeing what happens with euron in the books ide say yea. They slaughtered him in the show, wanna see him perform a crazy ritual or something in the books
I could live with a silmarillion-like synopsis of asoiaf honestly
Oh god I cant tell you how long I laughed at that Japanese philosopher joke.
"As a Japanese philosopher once said" had me full on bent over laughing like a hyena. Nicely done
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My favorite scene from The Sworn Sword is when Dunk mouthes the word “clout in the ear” and Egg grins at him. Absolutely priceless !
Dunk and Egg’s escapades are my favorite A Song of Ice and Fire side stories. They’re so well written and well paced. Super intriguing, great characters, action. All around fun.
If I had a nickel for every time Dunk threatened to give Egg a “clout in the ear” I’d have enough money to fund a third blackfire rebellion.
It seems that Third blackfyre rebellion has happened without ur funding good ser
@@jonstark153aren't you supposed to be ded bro
Mr President a third rebellion has hit the towers
If I had a copper for every time egg says “get him see he’s right there” I’d be able to buy a pavilion and a set of plate for egg
How many eyes does lord blackraven have?
Yo, mate! Ser Maynard and Lord Bloodraven use the same phrase "a nest of adders"! that's uber specific! Also, George R. R. Martin is so witty, he must have known MORE phrases to have one repeated twice in the same tale, right?
They also both use the name "Butterbutt" when speaking about Lord Butterwell.
Plumm was definitely BR in desguise.
Welp, looks like I'm rereading Dunk and Egg for the upeenth time
chance seeing you here! my 2 favorite channels in one place!
I would recommend "The First Law" series if looking for a new story in a similar type fantasy world.
The comic adaptions for them are amazingly good. I could imagine panels of the comic used in a slide show as the audio book played to be the peek experience.
It must be done
Eyyy cool to see you here
If Bloodraven was impersonating Maynard Plumm, maybe Shiera Seastar also disguising as Bloodraven and ruling in his stead? They were the power couple of Westeros back then.
I like the idea that maynard is bloodraven in disguise and that bloodraven is taking his job of impersonating a hedge knight and spying at the wedding as an opportunity to have some fun drinking with the guys and make sexsiest jokes
It really adds to his character in my opinion: hes not just this mysterious scary looking sorcerer creep, hes also a guy who was probably treated as a freak and outcast his whole life for being a bastard and albino and probably had a very lonely life which he ia trying to make up for now
"Dunk is oblivious to the flirting."
lmao He's actually pretty adorable.
Thank you for helping condense the book's material. I always find I can enjoy the details when they are laid out in formats like yours.
The original turbovirgin
I did not catch it the first time myself. I thought he was fascinated by Dunk because of him dreaming of him on the Kingsguard, not unlike Daeron's fear of him the first time they meet.
Really love these in depth Dunk and Egg explanation vids. Thanks Alt Shift X!!
Thanks for watching!
The Japanese philosopher bit had me rolling.
Also Glyndyn, Fireballs "son" was a real MVP in this story, holy shit.
The storys of Dunk and Brienne have many parralels?
So that means that Pod is a secret Targaryen xD
No, but we might see something great sprout up from twelve year old pod once he grows.
nah that can't be right, cause we know Jon Snow's a Targaryen, and Thormund was very clear about observing Jon having a small pecker lol
@@kevinw712 bro 🤣🤣🤣
Would be great for Podrick's actor to play Egg in the series if they age him up
Everyone is a secret Targaryen
Slam Dunk video dude, Eggcellent stuff as always
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@@AltShiftX thats a bit eggy
@@aye2you what a BALL of an episode.
@@AltShiftX just DUNKing our faces in content are ya.
This comment section is Plumm full of Bloody puns and I love it
I just spent two hours watching these Dunken and Egg prequel videos. I have no regrets.
"The young Old Nan" is now my favourite phrase
"The Sellsword" will probably be when Dunc and Egg travels to Essos because GRRM did also mention that they would make a stop there. They might even encounter the Golden Company and Bittersteel which would be pretty cool considering Bittersteel might not even realized he had a Targaryen under his nose the whole time.
They will probably see Haegon Blackfyre being crowned and him and the Golden Company preparing themselves for the 3rd Blackfyre Rebellion!
@@PedroLucas-mg5je That would be really awesome to see but wasn't Aegon already a knight himself when he fought in the 3rd war?
@@spearshake4771 Aegon might go with Dunk to Essos for BloodRaven's orders!
@@spearshake4771 Or there could be POVs of Dunk disguised inside the GC and Egg preparing the Targaryen armies with Maekar, BloodRaven and Aerion Brightflame on Westeros!
In the section on parallels between Dunk and Brienne, you missed two which are closely linked. The names of their squires have similar meanings - an egg and a pod are both containers within which you usually find an embryonic life form, either an animal or a plant respectively - and both Egg and Pod transform into massively more confident people over the course of the books, fulfilling the potential their names imply.
One thing not mentioned in this video that I hadn't caught in earlier readings, is that Bloodraven totally threatens to kidnap young Aegon due to conflict between Bloodraven and Aegon's father Maekar, and there's a lot of subtle verbal underplay between the two of them about what would happen if Bloodraven tried to do such a power play. Basically, Bloodraven concedes that it's not worth the risk.
Aegon father's is Maekar, mate
@@Kriegerdammerung Whoops! What a mistake to make! Will correct.
I enjoyed when Dunk tells Ball to use a tourney lance because it is 4 feet longer than a war lance, just like Baelor Breakspear told Dunk in the first novella. Great throwback that shows Dunk is always learning.
Dunk repeatedly threatens to give Egg a "clout on the ear" and Brienne bites off Vargo Hoat's ear. Coincidence??
I THINK NOT!
(good catch btw, even if a bit absurd 😂)
Yes.
Brynden Rivers/Blood Raven is such an interesting character. I love this type of characters which are despised by the many for their appearance or their alleged malfeasance even though they are serving the greater good. Brendyn Rivers is highly intelligent, competent and cunning and use all sorts of means and knowledge for the good of the realm. I'd love to see/read more of him. Thanks Alt Shift X for yet another great analysis :)
Brynden, my lord Florent. Brynden.
@@nikhiliyengar1510 You're perfectly right ! I corrected it. It's quite a shame to praise a character and to butcher its name ^^
He is the best character in ASOIAF,the most interesting. He is a bastard who has come into power,a very daunting sight as hes described as an albino with red eyes and a red winestain birthmark,a sorcerer who practices dark magic,he is the lover of the most beautiful woman who ever existed,he is literally a son of ice and fire,he becomes both kings hand and lord commander,he is ruthless and intelligent,and also the three eyed raven
The "greater good" of House Targaryen, that is.
Well, now I feel as thick as a castle wall too. I didn't notice the flirting either haha. In my defense I don't notice it in real life though.
Selective ignorance. Better to not risk an encounter than to make an ass of yourself. Learned that myself the hard way
2:26 you can hear him smiling. I love it
I love how BloodRaven, of all people, tested the honor of Dunk with the suggestion of just running away instead of giving up his armor..
"Gorghan of Old Ghis once wrote that a prophecy is like a treacherous woman. She takes your member in her mouth, and you moan with the pleasure of it and think, how sweet, how fine, how good this is... and then her teeth snap shut and your moans turn to screams. That is the nature of prophecy, said Gorghan. Prophecy will bite your prick off every time."
- Marwyn the Mage
probably what happened to Rhaegar, honestly lmao
And then Marwyn travelled straight to Daenerys, a prophetic character, and crossed the sea, who are invested with ironborn who follow some lovecratian maniac that wants to end the world. Marwyn really is a „do as I say, not as I do“ kinda guy lol.
@@SwampGreen14 Marwyn is protected by his hat made of Valyrian steel foil.
@@nealfirstofhisnamenow I’m just imagining marwyn as a kind of Alex jones figure in ASOIAF lmao.
Your the only one of the channels I subed for their GoT content years ago I still watch 2 years after the season we do not speak of. Keep up your good work mate :)
"this is a time of political tension" is there a time where there isnt political tension in westeros??
I think that the twenty years that Tywin was Hand of the King were very peaceful.
@@gerardolopez6851 peaceful but still with lots of tension
Jahearys and Alicent's Golden Age? Except maybe for the whole Faith fiasco but f*ck them.
Roberts reign
@@coldhands2802 Wasn't there a Rebellion and the whole incest conspirancy? That plus the other Southern Kingdoms being annoyed at the Lannisters having too much influence.
Sometimes I pick up a new series and think “huh, this is pretty good. Maybe comparable in quality to ASOIAF” then I come back to the series and realize just nothing compares to the depth of ASOIAF, truly a modern classic
Since I read ASOIAF a couple of years ago, I stopped reading books. I compare every new book to The Song and they're never even close in quality. So, basically, ASOIAF ruined books for me.
I love so much that you gave a shoutout to Radio Westeros! They're among the most informative ASoIaF podcasts I've ever had the pleasure of listening to.
I agree
I enjoy these novellas more than some of the books just because the character building is a lot more concise and they’re likable
the novellas are far more digestible
This was fantastic. You have such a soothing voice, and the editing was amazing. Thank you for this!
This one was my favourite of the 3, absolutely love Bloodraven. Him being Maynard is so brilliant.
Last time I was this early Aegon was Lord of Dragonstone
Last time I was this early the andals were still in esteros
Last time I was this early there was a King in the north
Which Aegon?
@@LA-MJ conquerer
@@LA-MJ aegon i! since the title is lord and not prince of dragonstone.
Call me crazy, but I really don’t think we’re going to get all those novella’s from George. I doubt we ever even get A Dream of Spring at this point.
it’s not crazy. many people think that because he keeps announcing he’s writing other stories or scripts for tv. he’s probably written the whole main story but is having trouble connecting the dozens of intricate plot lines and conspiracy’s going on. he’s essentially written himself into a corner.
There's no way we're getting ADOS. We'll probably get TWOW within the next year... two years... five years... who tf knows, but I think we'll get it. But ADOS? Nah, no way he'll be able to finish that.
@@krystofdayne Maybe Elio and Linda will finish it for him. They wrote a good bit of TWOIAF.
You're not crazy. You're just being realistic.
Yea there’s a better chance of aliens visiting us then grrm releasing dream of spring or more dunk and egg.
I have no idea where my "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" book is gone so thank you for this video that let me relive these incredible stories
Hearing your voice is like drinking a nice cup of coffee on a chilly Fall morning
These videos are gonna blow up once the show gets into production, well done Shift.
Mystery Knight is my fav Dunk and Egg tale, thanks Shift! xx
The sheer depth of this world still amazes me after all these years, such a brilliant writer
"A Japanese philosopher once said"
lol Mewtwo
That was a punch below the belt! looool
3:13 "admiring how large Dunk is, saying he would love to cross swords with him..." wait...
"AND WANTS TO TRY HIS LANCE ON HIM" waaaait a minute...
"but Dunk is oblivious to the flirting" WAIT, nooo way hahahhaha WHAT
I never realised that too kkkkk omg
That Japanese Philosopher was very wise. Perhaps you could make a video about him?
"The Lord Commander", knowing current Martin writing speed, is estimated to be published in next 100 years?
I love the armor designs in this comic.
Edit:Also Blood Raven’s birth mark looks more like a raccoon than a raven.
I've truly come to love Martin's use of prophecies being misinterpreted. So often in fantasy they're so cut and dry, but in the Westeros stories, one can cause so much harm by personal interpretation of dreams and prophecies. Martin is a former Catholic and Catholic theologians actually warn against committing wrongs based on personal revelations. One theologian I met said one should just live their life as best as possible and if the revelation is part of God's plan, it will just happen naturally. Yet in Martin's stories, we see the consequences of when peoples try to force their revelations to be made reality. It reminds me of how Dunk says he doesn't know what the morrow brings, only that he can live his life as best as possible
Makes the final couple of seasons of GoT even sadder, with all the subtle interconnectivity, prophecies, deeper meanings, being simply forgotten.
That quote from the japanese philosopher really inspired me in the middle, so I'll leave you with a quote from a wise investment strategist, "There's always money in the banana stand," Very good video, love your work!
If Martin decided to release the 4th book of Dunk and Eggs: it needs to be adapted into a graphic novel
Oh what a dream that would be but we are forever waiting for winter.
@@ayourmum8521 there is still an ongoing adaptation of a clash of kings, the second book of the series
@@Brandonhayhew ? I do not get 🥴
@@ayourmum8521 there is a graphic novel based on the second book of asoiaf series
@@Brandonhayhew oh wow didn’t even know about that. I knew there were graphic novels for dunk and egg just not for asoiaf. Would you recommend it? I’ve already read the books 🤷♂️
Always wondered, knowing George's penchant for naming characters after real world influences, if Uthor "the Snail" with his unique sigil was named in honour of the Silver Snail - a legendary comic book shop in Toronto.
the japanese philisopher bit was pure comedic genius, but also insightful and necessary
great work as always
i see dunk and egg, i click like right away.
i see Alt Shift X, i click like right away.
I see dunk and egg, I immediately think dunkin donuts egg sandwich
I liked the historical reference with the cup over water and the Japanese philosopher, still one of my favorite Pokemon
But when the world needed him most... Alt Shift X reappeared!
Love your stuff, mate.
Glendon Ball is one of my all time favourite characters in the song of ice and fire.
His sheer tenacity makes me love him as a character even more.
I never made a connection between Bloodraven and Odin but it works so well! Amazing!
These videos are priceless. You explain the stories far better than anyone.
Also, the use of the graphics from the comics helps tremendously
11:59 by Arceus and the Seven, I wish I could like a video twice.
Poor Daemon Blackfyre the 2nd good guy who couldn't live up to his father's legacy, but who could? And loyal Gormon Peake willing to support and believe in his King.
Wow. I didn't get a lot when reading the book. Thanks for your videos! It's realy interesting to discover missed bits of story.
omg i never realized jon the fiddler was trying to bang dunk. i did not pick up on that dialogue
Of the comparisons between Dunc and Brienne: brienne is also seen at renlys tournament using a shield that has the same symbol as Dunc, a tree with a star
Thanks for pointing out the Jacobite parallels to the Blackfyre rebellions! I had a couple of distant ancestors who were exiled after the real-world uprisings, so that historical chapter holds a little extra interest for me.
So first off I wanted to say I adore your videos. Your voice is so soothing, yet powerful enough to grasp my attention. Your videos are also edited wonderfully. Nothing overly showy, but not utterly simple in the slightest. Top notch. I was wondering if you're ever planning on delving in the the cosmere at all? The books seem mostly up your alley, and I'd love to hear your opinions and predictions about hidden meanings and upcoming events in the books.
THEYRE DOING DUNK AND EGG??!! YESSSS (Your recommendation of the Audio book made me fall in love with the book)
Damn Alt I'm trying to go to sleep and you drop a banger
I really do hope we can see the rest of these story’s. I haven’t finished reading the main series but the idea of these really does excite me
Dunk being oblivious to the fact he's being flirted with is hilarious
when you revealed that maynard is quite literally bloodraven, I never caught that when finishing the book lmao and now I seem to like bloodraven even more. what an interesting guy, thx for the explanation!
Call me crazy, I like the Tales of Dunk and Egg more than the main novels.
You're crazy. You're also right.
I prefer them, too. For me, it's just a matter of taste. The main series is so massive with an incredible amount of moving parts. That isn't a criticism. I can acknowledge the objective quality and brilliance of ASOIAF. I simply enjoy reading "smaller" stories with a more focused cast more.
probably because each of them is a finished story.
I agree, however I couldn’t like Dunk and Egg as much if it wasn’t for the main series. It’s everything that’s great about ASoIaF in a nice concise package. However, it’s how it connects to and expands on the main series that elevates it above, in my opinion.
I would want more of these easy to keep track of books too. I think a lot of ppl would agree, if they know about these novels..
The scene between Bloodraven and Dunk at the end always kind of reminded of those bits at the end of Terry Pratchett's watch novels in the Discworld series where the Patrician talks to Vimes about everything that happened and what the consequences of it all will be. Bloodraven may as well have said "Do not let me detain you" when he dismissed the two.
I just finished reading the Mystery Knight, and am kicking myself for not recognizing Maynard Plumm. I knew there was something suspicious when Dunk mentioned his odd features, but didn't put it together. Thanks Alt!
I never knew just how much parallel there is between Dunk and Brienne's stories. The offspring of characters echoing their ancestors actions is quite poetic
Bloodraven is my absolute most favorite character in the whole Ice & Fire universe. What a fascinating character
Alt+Shift+X -- you make the best videos and breakdowns of books and shows I've ever seen. The amount of research and details you put into your videos really shows; with every video you put out. I'm so happy that I found your channel long ago, and hope you keep going for many more years!
I love you! These videos are so smooth and well done
I love how well Uthor's face fits on the stonks meme.
Brown Dragon LOL...On other point I was just imagining situation where "John" hires Dunk for his retinue. How long would it take Dunk to realise he wants even more than just swordfights :D We surely would get a Dunk the Lunk moment when he finally realizes.
I think this might be my favorite UA-cam series right now. Could listen for hours.
“But Dunk is oblivious to the Flirting”
Me: *dramatically spits out drink* HOLY SHIT, HE WAS FLIRTING!
I am SO GLAD you mentioned RADIO WESTEROS. Their videos are incredible!
I was hoping you mentioned the inn by the God's Eye shore. Where all of the wedding's attendees crossed the lake to reach Butterwell's castle.
I have a theory, that it is the same inn found by Arya and Yoren's group of recruits, before they are attacked by Ser Amory Lorch, in the book "A Clash of Kings".